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Between the Lines

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This program is no longer in production. Making sense of Australia’s place in the world, Between the Lines puts contemporary international issues and events into a broader historical context, seeking out original perspectives and challenging accepted wisdom.
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Biden picks Kamala Harris; and should we revive manufacturing in Australia?

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris for Vice President If Joe Biden wins the US election he will be the oldest person ever to make it to the White House. His age at swearing in would be 78 – older than Ronald Reagan was when he left office. Not surprisingly, Biden has said he wanted a running mate who is capable of taking over the job at a moment’s notice. This week, he announced Kamala Harris as his running mate, making her the first black woman on a major-party ticket. Does she have what it takes to...

Aug 13, 202029 min

Elaine Pearson on free speech at UNSW and Hiroshima 75th anniversary

Defending the right to offend China on campus Last week, Human Rights Watch Australia Director Elaine Pearson was interviewed by the media department at the University of New South Wales about the human rights implications of Hong Kong's new national security law. Her comments on Hong Kong new national security legislation upset some students. They claimed article caused offence to China and demanded the university remove the article. The university temporarily removed the article, but after a p...

Aug 06, 202029 min

Australian independence at the Ausmin talks; Thatcherism and Reagonomics: lessons for economic recovery?

All way with DJT? This week Defence Minister Linda Reynolds and Foreign Minister Marise Payne flew to Washington to attend the annual Ausmin talks. The backdrop to this year’s talks is a series of escalating events and rhetoric on Hong Kong’s new national security laws, ownership of the South China Sea, cyber-attacks and theft, and the closure of consulates in the US and China. But the deeper issue on the agenda was a choice. The US was hoping Australia would throw everything in with the US – an...

Jul 30, 202029 min

Liberals pushing back against cancel culture in the US; the withering of the US-South Korea alliance

Liberals pushing back against cancel culture in the US Some people call it cancel culture because it is based on mainly online activism aimed at 'cancelling' or withdrawing support from a celebrity or public figure. But in the last few years it has extended away from pop culture celebrities into academic institutions, writers festivals and even mainstream newspapers like the New York Times. Advocates argue they are righting wrongs and correcting fundamental injustices in the system. Critics say ...

Jul 23, 202029 min

Covid missteps in the UK, Will Putin be president for life? And, genocide denialism in Srebrenica

UK update with Isabelle Oakeshott Boris Johnson was elected in a landslide to get Brexit finalised. But his mishandling of the Coronavirus crisis has his approval ratings in free fall. Meanwhile, Britain’s exit from Europe has fallen off the front pages and Labour’s new leader is gaining ground. Also, will Putin be president for life? Vladimir Putin recently secured constitutional changes that may allow him to rule for another sixteen years. Most Western analysts see the move as a power grab to ...

Jul 16, 202029 min

Muscling up to China and 25 years since Srebrenica

China — the unnamed adversary in Australia’s defence review Last week the Morrison government launched its Defence Strategy and Force Structure Review, promising $270 billion over the next decade to enhance Australia’s defence capabilities. But is the money too much, or not enough? Is it going to all the right places? And will it do enough to safeguard Australia from China’s increasing aggression and its rapidly growing military capabilities? Also, Remembering Srebrenica In 1995 the small town o...

Jul 09, 202029 min

Remembering Owen Harries and Hamilton the musical

Vale Owen Harries Welsh-born Owen Harries was one of Australia’s most significant foreign-policy thinkers. A conservative and realist, he battled the doves during the Vietnam era and the hawks during the war on terror. From his editorial post at the National Interest magazine he played an influential role in US foreign policy circles, earning respect and admiration from the likes of Henry Kissinger and Francis Fukuyama. Harries died this month aged 90. Also, what does the Hamilton musical say ab...

Jul 02, 202029 min

Understanding the border dispute between India and China, and the Gillard-Rudd leadership coup ten years on

Border tensions between China and India The Himalayan border region between China and India has been in dispute since 1962. This month, a violent clash between troops resulted in twenty Indian and an unknown number of Chinese deaths. Will the recent escalation push India away from China for good? Also, the Gillard leadership coup ten years on This week marks the ten-year anniversary of the Labor Party coup to replace Kevin Rudd with Julia Gillard. What is its legacy for Australian politics?...

Jun 25, 202029 min

Geoffrey Blainey on the vandalism of historic statues, and the geopolitics of Coronavirus conspiracies

Preserving the past Geoffrey Blainey — who coined the term ‘the tyranny of distance’- is one of Australia’s most prolific and well known historians. He discusses Australia’s record on race relations and the removal of historic statues. Also, the geopolitics of Coronavirus conspiracies What do state actors like China and Russia hope to gain from spreading disinformation on the virus? And how do fringe domestic groups like QANON and anti-vaxxers fit in?

Jun 18, 202029 min

The Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China and a trifecta of troubles in the US

An anti-China alliance? The Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China brings together politicians from liberal democracies including Canada, Norway, Germany and the US. Labor Senator Kimberly Kitching is the Australian Co-Chair. But as Australia heads into recession, and China increases it's restrictions on Australia trade, might this just make things worse? Also, do America’s mounting domestic woes spell electoral trouble for Trump? This month the US has been beset by trifecta crises. There’s a hea...

Jun 11, 202029 min

Economics of coronavirus recovery, and Alexander Downer on China

How do we revive the economy once the pandemic passes? Coronavirus has Australia headed for a deep recession, so what can we do now to plan our way out of it? Is the answer more government intervention and state planning? Or, is now the time to launch a new reform agenda that sharpens the incentives to work, save, invest and hire? And, Alexander Downer: “I don’t know what China’s problem is” Prime Minister Scott Morrison has called for an investigation into the origins of the virus. But China’s ...

Apr 30, 202029 min

Turnbull's legacy, and 75 years after Hitler's death: who did he really see as the enemy?

Weighing up Turnbull’s legacy This week, former Prime Minister Malcom Turnbull published his memoir A Bigger Picture. In it he settles old scores with colleagues over his 2018 ousting, which he describes as an “act of madness.” What is his legacy, and how will history judge our nation’s twenty ninth Prime Minister? Jacqueline Maley, columnist at The Sydney Morning Herald. Jennifer Oriel, columnist at The Australian And, the death of a führer April 30th marks seventy-five years since Hitler’s sui...

Apr 23, 202029 min

Boris Johnson's COVID leadership, and Margaret Thatcher's legacy

What impact will Boris’ bout of COVID-19 have on his leadership and the nation’s fight against the virus? His former boss, political columnist Charles Moore weighs in. Later in the program Moore discusses his best-selling three volume biography of Margaret Thatcher. Was the Iron Lady really an eco-warrior? Would she have supported Brexit?

Apr 16, 202029 min

Duterte's coronavirus response, plus Australian PMs and power

Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has told the army to shoot to kill anyone who violates strict COVID-19 lockdowns. Has he gone too far, or is this just more of the strong-man machismo that made him so popular? We talk to Sheila Coronel, Professor of Investigative Journalism at the Columbia Journalism School. Also, why don't Australian prime ministers leave quietly? Australia has had 30 prime ministers since its Federation in 1901. According to political historian Norman Abjorensen they all ...

Apr 09, 202029 min

Singapore’s coronavirus advice to Australia, and Max Hastings on the Dambusters

Hear from the chair of Infection Control at the National University Hospital in Singapore, who says home isolation is impossible to enforce, and everyone who tests positive for coronavirus should be isolated in hospitals or in designated hotels until they recover. Plus, veteran British historian Max Hastings discusses his new history of the World War Two Dambusters raid.

Apr 02, 202029 min

Kishore Mahbubani: COVID-19 won’t stop China’s rise

Kishore Mahbubani says COVID-19 won’t put dent on China’s ascendency, and the US should work out a more thoughtful, long-term strategy for managing China’s rise. Kishore Mahbubani, Distinguished Fellow at the Asia Research Institute, National University of Singapore, author of Has China Won? The Chinese Challenge to American Primacy

Mar 12, 202029 min

Malaysia’s Game of Thrones, and three new cases of political interference in New Zealand

Has Malaysia’s Machiavelli made his last power play? Ninety four year old Doctor Mahathir Mohamad shocked the world when he resigned as Malaysia’s Prime Minister last month. It was seen by some as a Game of Thrones-style power play to out-manoeuvre rivals. Has it all back fired? Bridget Welsh Senior research associate at Nanyang Technological University, Singapore. Honorary Research Associate at University of Nottingham Malaysia’s Asia Research Institute (UNARI). Also, China’s “magic weapons”: t...

Mar 05, 202029 min

What happens if Uncle Sam goes home? And, French politics with The Economist’s Sophie Pedder

Uncle Sam: homeward bound? From Donald Trump to Bernie Sanders, a growing chorus of voices in the US is calling for a strategy of global retrenchment. But what will long-time allies like Australia do if Uncle Sam goes home? Thomas Wright, director of the Centre on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution and non-resident fellow at Lowy Institute in Sydney. Doug Bandow, senior fellow at the Cato Institute, former special assistant to President Ronald Reagan, scholar-in-residence ...

Feb 27, 202029 min

Jokowi visit: can good neighbours become good friends? Andrew Stone on why we need radical economic reform

Indonesia and Australia: can good neighbours become good friends? Indonesia’s president gave a landmark address to Australia’s parliament this week, calling for an end to divisive identity politics and greater Australian action on climate change. What can Australia do to improve this very important relationship? And, Andrew Stone: making Australia great again Former Chief Economist Andrew Stone has a radical plan to revitalise the Australia economy – tackling everything from energy to housing an...

Feb 13, 202029 min

Caucus chaos, Bloomberg's cash splash and Trump's acquittal

Caucus chaos, Bloomberg’s cash splash and Trump’s acquittal: what does it mean for American foreign policy? A surreal week in US politics, with a huge debacle counting votes at the Iowa caucus to select a Democratic presidential candidate. But was the strongest candidate even on the ballot? Also, Trump delivers an upbeat State of the Union on the eve of the vote of his impeachment acquittal. Amidst all this drama, what do the tea leaves say about the future shape of US foreign policy? And, UK MP...

Feb 06, 202029 min

Does killing Soleimani really change anything in the Middle East? And, are China and Russia becoming BFFs?

Soleimani killing: Was Washington's targeted killing of Iranian major general Soleimani justified? What’s the strategy behind it, and what kind of blow back will the US face? Danielle Pletka: senior fellow in foreign and defence policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Amin Saikal: Director of the Centre for Arab and Islamic Studies, ANU. Author: Iran Rising: The Survival and Future of the Islamic Republic and, Islam beyond Borders: The Umma in World Politics And, Are Russia and...

Jan 30, 202029 min

Has China lost Taiwan?; The man who mapped the world

Has China lost Taiwan? We discuss the stunning election win of Tsai Ing-wen in Taiwan earlier this month. Has China lost Taiwan for good? Or does the election just make military action more likely? Hugh White, Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies ANU. Nastasha Kassam, Research Fellow, Diplomacy and Public Opinion Program, Lowy Institute. The man who mapped the world. It’s 250 years since Captain Cook first planted the British flag on Australian soil, but according to a new book most of us sti...

Jan 23, 202029 min
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