Gift Ideas for Beer Snobs | Better on Draft 334 | Better on Draft | Craft Beer Podcast

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Whether your beer is in a bottle can or glass kick back and relax, it's better on draft.

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We are live episode.

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334 the better on draft podcast my name is Ken. Thank you so much for joining us on this mild Friday evening here in Michigan. At least it's probably 115 where Dan is over in Arizona.

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I'm just going to.

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I mean, it was 80 today, so.

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Must be nice. Let's go around, see what everybody is drinking. Dan, where are you talking to you?

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What are you drinking?

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Yeah, so finally I haven't had it on draft in a while. I've got a White Russian from setup brewing.

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Rob, you're reaching the record mark for new guests or new hosts. What are you drinking?

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I have a blueberry muffin top from OSO Brewing from my Wisconsin trip. This is actually day two of my Advent calendar I'm catching up.

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Wendy, what about you?

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You're supposed to drink.

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Those all at once when you're catching up.

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I am drinking a couple of my favorites. Say I have got a coonan's white devil.

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And a drafting table buzz blanket.

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Definitely two of my favorite.

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I was going to say if you're catching up.

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To an Advent calendar.

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I think Nick.

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Is still drinking his 2021 Advent calendar.

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Oh, for sure for sure.

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So I think you guys are still making good time for myself. I have from my bargaining days Massacre 2017 got for $1.00.

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And then I also have a original milkshake stout to kind of limit the 15% lager. Barely slacker. This is. That's in.

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My hands.

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But with today, as we get closer and closer to Christmas folks, I don't know about you guys, but everybody loves to tell me I am a ***** to shop for. I be I'm blessed enough to be able to just buy whatever I you know may need or may want. And I never really save for people to get me gifts. So a lot of people have.

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To think outside the box when it comes to gifts, it might be a trip. It might be something where you know I I buy for myself, but then I never spoil myself like I don't buy anything too luxurious, so everything that they'd have to buy would be like $500.00. So I want to talk to you guys today.

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As we do not have a guest in the studio and I want to go over and hear your thoughts on a a little topic that I brought together as I'm trying to stall for time to get to this specific, there it is.

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Link here, which is if you guys are not watching. Of course you can always watch on youtube.com/better on drafttwitch.tv/better on draft, but the 40 best gifts.

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For beer lovers in your life, this is a list thanks to a great apparent website, calledbestproducts.com. It's never, never heard of it before. This is one of those obvious data mining websites that just kind of put together thousands of different lists.

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This would be legit.

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But I want to see if maybe there might be something that piques your interest, maybe something that you might wanna ask Santa Claus to send your way today for Christmas. So we're gonna go through. We're gonna go down and see if these are anything that we want. Starting with a canned beer draft system.

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I I don't think I've ever seen this before, Dan. I mean, you probably pay more attention to it. It looks like it just turns a can and.

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Pours it into a beer as a beer.

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I've I've seen it like this before. I've never seen one in person. I didn't know it was.

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Still a thing?

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So you basically looks like you you put your can in there. Does it just like crack the top and add like oxygen to it?

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Curtis tracks top and pours out.

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It it reminds.

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Me of those those juice machines that just squished the fresh juice bag that you subscribed.

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To ohh geez.

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I don't know if this is something, especially for $100 that I would want even though.

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Can I just pour the can into my own glass and be done with?

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It it's not look as nice if you do it that way.

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I mean.

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At at this point you're almost better off than just investing in a kegerator like $100 into a glorified mini fridge. That adds like a keg system to it. You can easily get. I don't know what a kegerator goes for these days. Is this something that you would want someone to buy you?

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Hell, nobody. Nobody.

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No, no.

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Place my three tap.

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Right. I'm trying to think what I would do if I saw it.

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In someone's house.

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He's like, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I gotta. I gotta put the can in there and then I gotta open. I I.

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It just seems like.

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A lot of extra work like the.

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It says it says this is more than just a mere pore. It actually uses ultrasonic vibrations.

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To create a pipe or foam and.

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Oh oh.

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So it seems to me kind of like the the chop chop chop chop. However you say it, the Brazilian style of beer.

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It sounds kind of similar to those machines.

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Where it wants foam that keeps your beer cool.

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I'd I'd definitely have to.

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Look it up, there's nothing.

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Nobody could buy this for me. That would be just such a.

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Waste of thought. Of what?

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Found a wedding present. Thanks.

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You use it like once.

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Pull it out when people are over for a.

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Party or something and that's it.

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Yeah, I feel like I would. I'd at some point I would get so bored with it and just here.

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It would sit there and collect it, sit there and collect us. No one.

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Yeah, for sure number.

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Sees it that regularly.

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Two was.

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A gift, probably a gift card from Tagore or something.

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Like that? Which?

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Of course we can't use here in Michigan #3 double wall the frozen pint glass.

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So I have one.

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Of those.

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You do. What do you think of it?

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It's it's a double walled beer mug though, or Stein type thing, so it's a big plastic thing. Freezes. I love it for those lawn mower type beers.

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Where the really cold beer is really good and I will drink out of it in my hammock sometimes.

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Ohh nice.

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Now in our chat on YouTube, because of course we're live on YouTube, you type tube.com/better on draft. They said. Is that like the physics system? So I'm guessing it is, but I'm guessing there's probably some benefits to utilizing this specific one from The Sharper Image.

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Maybe they're trying to sell advertisements or they have like a referral code so that when you buy it off of their site they get a kickback so.

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That might be it.

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Yeah, but I'm sure that's all of them.

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That that might might quite be the case.

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So you have a double walled glass.

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I I don't.

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Ever since I learned about like why the like Super cold beer, like why they serve it super cold and the not benefits you get from it like I'm not.

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One to really.

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Utilize someone like when I see someone with a.

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A freezer tank like they have the the beer glasses and the freezer, and they're about to pull it out to pour my beer in it. I get scared like ohh.

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No. You're gonna kill my beer.

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Do I? I would like this even if it was a maybe something smaller like a rocks glass for like whiskey or something like that. Like if I want to.

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Chill some whiskey, depending on what kind of whiskey I'm drinking.

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Yeah, I was just thinking. Vodka soda. You.

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Know because those.

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Especially if it's not cold out.

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Those can warm up pretty quick, so that would be nice for something like.

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That, or even like an ice free option for your cocktails. Like if you're you're looking to maybe strain if you're if you're doing a nice cocktail and you're, like, straining it into a glass like having this kind of glass, keeping it cold for a long time, I think would be super beneficial.

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Is this something?

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You guys want for Christmas though?

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That's how I got mine was, says some.

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Sort, yeah.

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Are you someone that's hard to?

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Ohh, of course. Yes of course.

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To buy for Rob.

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Same problem when you have your own disposable income.

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You dispose of it.

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I I've seen this so many times that.

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You keg carbonated growl.

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I think we just go on then.

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I was to say, don't you have one?

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Of these, I do not.

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I thought you did.

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But maybe it was something similar.

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Sorry, go ahead.

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No, this this reminds me of the the five liter mini kegs that you buy for some of the beers here in Michigan, like Newcastle or Bells Oberon. Shout out to that episode with the guy.

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What? What, what?

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From the Red Wing show.

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Ohh yeah, the the hop slam. I think that's.

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The only time we've had a mini.

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Keg on the show. Yeah. So this is basically a.

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Product that allows you to, I guess, carbonate your growler. Keep it carbonated for a long time, maybe. I don't know, and make it pour as if it was on draft. I'm I'm kind of.

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Curious about the.

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The whole thing, this is one of those things that just especially at $150.00 to Jesus.

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Yeah. So the this is one that my friend does have and he got as a gift for Christmas. It was a few years back, but it's the convenience here is it's a growler. So you take it in and you, you get it filled at your local shop. You don't have to get, you know, they don't have to have pegged it or or something.

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Or you take it home and and as you said, you carbonate it so the pressure stays at least close to what it should be, so you can drink it a lot slower.

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So I'm assuming they use.

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Like a CO2 cartridge for this.

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Yes. Yeah, it looks a little like.

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For the pellet guns, OK.

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I was muted this whole time.

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I was gonna say does anyone?

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And you were all letting me.

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Want to tell Ken I was just waiting because I was watching you talk y'all.

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I I muted myself to tell.

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You. I was going to say I don't. I can't think of a time where.

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I've wanted a growler.

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That I wasn't gonna drink right away. And then I was gonna say raw.

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One of his local beer bars was having some high octane beers that they were giving out to where this is probably the one time that I would maybe want to be able to savor or growler. If it's something that's like, you know, 18%. Like if there's a.

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If I have the.

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Opportunity to get like a.

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Growler of say, Wolverine Massacre, you know at 15% I'm not going to finish a growler by myself in one night.

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So that's that's the only reason why I would want that. But at that point, I probably wouldn't buy a growler anyways. But you, is this something you would use for those those days at your bar rub?

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So I've, uh, well, my friend used it. It worked out for me too. But on those days where there's a a sale like on a, you know, a Sunday beer sale, $6 growler. So you fill that up and maybe you are planning to drink Sunday night, maybe not. Maybe again Monday or Tuesday.

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But they're pretty good in the.

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You know, if for that that case where you don't know exactly when you're gonna get to the beer.

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But you know you you got a cheap beer that's available for you and then maybe you just have a pint of it one night or or half a pint even.

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So it just keeps it for longer and it's it's worked out. I do have those weeks like that for sure.

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I I I just don't think there's there's one keg of beer that I would or, you know, draft beer that I would want. But this next one looked pretty cool outdoor patio furniture with beer and wine cooler. So it looks like basically just like a a high top with the ability to put ice into a cooler at the bottom.

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I do.

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I mean this is 1 where you know, I've been harking on the price, but for only 90 bucks, I feel like that's not that bad of a a price holds up to 40 cans, weather resistant, hidden cooler. It's got a drainage plug at the bottom.

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I feel like I.

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Might want to ask for this.

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For Christmas this year, what?

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About you guys. What's what's what's your thoughts on this outdoor patio furniture?

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Yes, that would totally fit in my patio.

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It seems like an upgrade from the kiddie pool full of ice.

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Right.

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Yeah, this is.

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The first good one, I think that's come up here.

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What this would be?

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Cool too, is for if you're going to like all I could think about is all the times where I've done, like hotel parties.

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And stuff and being.

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Able to have because I I'm the.

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Kind of person that would.

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You know, plug the.

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Plug the tub and fill it up with ice and.

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Like here. It's here. It's just like, ohh. Here's an extra table.

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For people to put drinks on and a little.

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Bit of a cooler too.

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Yeah, this actually looks pretty cool for for this, especially for anyone that has some type of patio or even a a centerpiece in a house like.

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Having a a small little extra high top.

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They could work in the garage or on a driveway or out in a parking.

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Space or. Ohh yeah.

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Ohh yeah, for sure beer hot sauce are are.

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You guys into the.

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The beer adjacent food and food, like beverages and drinks and sauce.

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I can't think of a single one.

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I I've got a beer mustard I in my fridge right now.

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Right.

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It's this is the perfect kind of.

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Gift that people get me.

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Well, beer mustard.

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Well, yeah, or or beer adjacent things. So a beer infused hot sauce seems like something that.

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I would enjoy or receive as a gift.

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That's good.

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That's a good gift to get because you wouldn't buy it for yourself.

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Right. So that's.

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It's really good hot sauces out there.

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I don't know if I.

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Maybe this is a?

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Need a fear?

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Good one. We don't know. We haven't tried it.

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Probably, probably not. Probably not on that level.

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I'm willing to bet.

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Part of the problem is that there's so many hot sauces out there, right? And if you're buying for someone you know they like hot sauce and beer, then here you go.

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That's true.

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It's also one of those like you like hot sauce, but where is your heat level versus your friend's heat level? And?

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Oh my God.

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I'm pretty sure mine is higher than all of my friends.

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Mine is lower than all my friends. That's what I'm sure.

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10S is 0.

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I I am a I I have definitely grown, but I'm still I would still consider myself a ***** to even I wouldn't even dare try like Thai food at like medium like oh geez, not gonna. Not gonna even like try like.

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Sounds like oh, there's.

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I'm just, you know.

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Pico on that, get that out of here.

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I'm not that bad, but I had a friend give me a hot sauce one time that from somebody local out of Grand Rapids that makes it fantastic. Hot sauces. They're always really good, but this particular one I.

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I don't know if I inhaled as I went to bite it at the same time, but it hit me so hard I think I coughed for like 30 minutes.

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Ohh geez.

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And she's just sitting.

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There eating chips with it like it's nothing.

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I I so the hoisin sauce which wasn't it was beer adjacent cause it was fermented. It wasn't a beer specific sauce that.

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Nick the Brewer made.

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Like that sauce was super good, but I don't foresee myself like buying something that's beer adjacent, like a beer infused mustard or a beer infused, you know, or beer brats quote. You know, I just, it doesn't really pique my interest in hot sauce. Definitely doesn't pique my interest.

00:16:28 ROB

The beer mustard was one I actually bought for myself. I was at the Mustard Museum outside of Madison, WI.

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As we as we all are.

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You know.

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Sampling the mustards there at the sampling bar and I really liked the beer mustard, so I ended up buying that for myself.

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Well, the next step on.

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This list is a beer making kit, so this is not like a a homebrew setup.

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This is kind.

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Of a very very basic.

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Kit, I think you just kind of put all the ingredients in, let it ferment and you're kind of good to go.

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Like at 30.

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Got three made work. Yeah, it would be.

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That's the.

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Is that the Brooklyn cruise shop?

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Yeah, this is the Brooklyn brew shop.

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So that's what I got for me to try.

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So you.

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You basically get, you know for 40 to $50, you get to choose the the different style of beer that you want. So a brown ale, Porter and IPA, and it's fairly simplistic to make. There's not really too much like timing or hop timing or anything like that. And I'm pretty sure it's the the kit.

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Isn't 1. Use.

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Meaning that you can, you know, make stuff.

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After the fact.

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But it's only one gallon each time, so you're not going to be making too much from these kits.

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I mean, Dan.

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It's a wingdale and homebrew kit. It's something that you can do right on your stove top if you're so challenged. There is timing and stuff with the hops, just like with any homebrewing though.

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Ohh is there this is the.

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Yeah, there's instructions that you have to follow, and if you don't follow them and like you don't shake long enough, then your yeast dies.

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And you have to start all over again. But I I digress.

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Yeah, this isn't pre-made work. I'm looking at it right now.

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This is extract.

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It's it's a one gallon hungry kid.

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OK. So it's just a small little homebrew.

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Kit. Yeah, compared to the other, all right.

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That's what I got to try. I did not do good at it. I need somebody to.

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Teach me how to do it.

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Just got to practice honestly.

00:18:31 KEN

Rob, Rob View home brew at all.

00:18:34 ROB

I used to home brew a lot. Yes, I haven't for a little while I was my friend earlier today, reached out and asked if I wanted to do it adventure tomorrow and it might be going to the homebrew store and getting ingredients and just doing a simple homebrew adventure.

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I I joined the local Ann Arbor Brewers Guild, the Home Brewers Guild, over here, but I I don't drink fast enough to drink my own home brew and it's just that it's a lot of time, commitment and effort to then just kind of sit and at some point like it goes from sitting to now I'm giving away.

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Bottles and trying.

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Like, get rid of it before it goes.

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Bad, and there's nothing worse than it, bro saying. Hey, Kier, come try my home.

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Brew I well, I bottle wine and you get 50. Some bottles like 50.

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Four or five bottles out of.

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It and I'll drop off.

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I know I should.

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24 at my friend's houses, so I just.

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Do porch drops and text them that they have beer on their.

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Porch and whisk whisk away.

00:19:38 WENDY

Ohh, you're your very own beer fairy.

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I love it.

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I would probably.

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Do better kegging my beer now that I think about it. I I might have to pick your brain later, Dan, about.

00:19:50 DAN

So it's way easier than you think.

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Getting to that, especially because then I don't have to Sandy, 48 bottles and Sandy.

00:19:57 ROB

Yeah, that's the hard part.

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Yeah, it's way easier than you're thinking.

00:20:03 KEN

But what about?

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A board game, a beer based board game.

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Is this a game where everyone gets trashed?

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I feel like it might. It looks like it's so.

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I'm I'm loading up the game rules. It says players take turns rolling dice and moving their pieces across the board clockwise. Complete the beer challenges along the way.

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If your dice roll gives you too many moves.

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Moves to get to the finish by exact count. You cannot move and must take a drink. The game continues until there is one player left. Last player on the board must drink the Community Cup.

00:20:31 DAN

Oh hell yeah.

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Ohh boy, what's the community cup?

00:20:42 ROB

Sounds like some of the challenges might fill that up.

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I'm guessing that my friends.

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Would love this.

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So start to finish as I'm reading some of the the things. If you look at the corners like in the top right, it says pour one drink into the Community Cup.

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There's another one that says guys drink another one that says rhyme. Choose a word to rhyme and say it in a sentence. Take turns saying rhyming sentences quickly. First player to Miss Test a drink.

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So it almost looks like like the rules of.

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Was it trouble or sorry I.

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Think it's trouble where you have to like get.

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At the exact amount of.

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Notches to to notch in your your little peg.

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Things. Yeah, I I I this would be a lot of fun. This would definitely be one of those big drinking games. Like, if there's too many people and you want to just kind of get something together, where everyone's kind of like having their own conversations while she's happening around them. So they're not paying attention.

00:21:45 KEN

Like Cards Against Humanity.

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That would be my my thought. Have you guys ever played like a beer properly or any other beer related games that wasn't like a beer game like?

00:21:57 DAN

Like flip cup?

00:21:58 KEN

Yeah, not so. Not like flip cup like.

00:22:01 ROB

So I am a board gamer. I love tabletop board games and so I've got a beer trivia game.

00:22:10 ROB

It's been a long time.

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Since we played it.

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But it it it's more like Trivial Pursuit than than this type of game and you are supposed to drink beer at the end there's beer mats involved. I don't remember all the.

00:22:22 ROB

Details of it. I haven't played it for a while.

00:22:25 ROB

And then there's another one where you run a brewery, and I have played that one and that was pretty fun. But there's one where you run a distillery. I think it's called distill, and it's really good.

00:22:36 KEN

I actually. So yeah, there's distilled the board game. I had bought it for Julia and Julia had bought it for me.

00:22:37 DAN

No idea.

00:22:51 KEN

So it was really, really funny. We wound up selling both copies because the original Kickstarter sold out and they didn't have any. So we we loaded it up and it was just like this seems like too many rules to to play a game. I mean, I I understand.

00:23:10 KEN

The there are places and times when I want to play games with all those kinds of rules, but a game about like making your own distillery wasn't really feeling it.

00:23:20 KEN

Like I tried.

00:23:21 KEN

Dan knows how much I love the the movie back to the future.

00:23:25 KEN

And I actually got back to the future of.

00:23:27 KEN

The board game.

00:23:28 KEN

And I was like, this is way too many like rules and stuff. But there is a game that I will suggest to everyone to pick up if you want a good easy party game called Heroes of Barcadia.

00:23:44 KEN

And it's a game where your your little piece on the mat. So on the Play Board is a pint glass and your HP is the amount of beer is that's in.

00:23:54 KEN

The pint glass.

00:23:58 KEN

And it's really, really.

00:24:01 KEN

Fun it's a very, very basic.

00:24:04 KEN

Roll dice to either succeed or fail. There's a little bit more intricacy to that, but it's pretty simple to to play so I do suggest Heroes of Arcadia. I think you can get up to 8.

00:24:14 KEN

People in those games.

00:24:17 KEN

Which is a lot of fun. Here's one that I think probably a.

00:24:20 KEN

Lot of us may have, which is.

00:24:22 KEN

A stainless.

00:24:23 KEN

Steel koozie, Yeti koozie maybe?

00:24:28 KEN

Not Yeti specifically, do you?

00:24:30 KEN

Guys have a nice nice koozie or no.

00:24:34 DAN

No, you don't, no.

00:24:35 WENDY

I do.

00:24:38 KEN

Why not? Do you drink your beer?

00:24:39 KEN

Too fast is.

00:24:40 DAN

That why, yeah, I I what do I need a koozie for? I've got the better on draft one from back in the day, but that's about it.

00:24:47 KEN

I have the the tall boy koozies that I think Seller Man's made that were paper bags. They weren't actual paper bags, but the koozie looked like a paper bag.

00:24:56 WENDY

So I have one from Lagunitas like that.

00:25:00 ROB

So my wife was collecting koozies for a while and specifically koozies shaped like clothing.

00:25:08 ROB

So we have a couple.

00:25:08

And I actually.

00:25:10 ROB

We have a couple of cowboy boots and some Hawaiian shirts and.

00:25:13 ROB

All sorts of things like that.

00:25:15 KEN

I think as we Scroll down, we.

00:25:17 KEN

Might see ohh this.

00:25:18 KEN

Is definitely not on my list of things.

00:25:20 KEN

A craft Beer flight board.

00:25:26

I it just.

00:25:27 DAN

Why not? Everyone else wants it bite you?

00:25:29 DAN

That's fine. You can be in the money.

00:25:30 KEN

Why are Dan? Do you really want this? Are you gonna make your own craft beer flights at home? So.

00:25:37 DAN

No, now you're saying I have you now.

00:25:38 KEN

He's gonna. He's gonna open up a 16 oz.

00:25:41 KEN

Can and just 4/4?

00:25:42

I have you now.

00:25:42 KEN

Ounces in the you.

00:25:44 KEN

You have to prove a point.

00:25:45 WENDY

It's basically a fancy shirt coterie board, so yeah, we might not just.

00:25:49 WENDY

Add the beer to it.

00:25:51 ROB

I have a thing like this that holds 4 pint glasses, but it's perfect for taking 4 pint glasses out to the patio all at once, so that's.

00:25:58 ROB

What I use?

00:25:58 ROB

It for ohh.

00:26:01

Get some.

00:26:01 ROB

I don't. It doesn't have.

00:26:02 ROB

The snack part.

00:26:04 KEN

I was gonna say, I mean with the snack part too, that you're you're everyone's best friend. If you're going in the kitchen getting beer for everyone and.

00:26:10 ROB

Snacks. Yeah.

00:26:10

For everyone.

00:26:12 KEN

If you can pull this off.

00:26:14 KEN

And it was like 4 pint glasses. Then I could go inside and grill like, refill the chips and dip and stuff and bring it outside. And it's just one trip. So everyone can, you know, hang outside by the the bonfire or whatever, sure, but.

00:26:27 KEN

I never understood the at home flights like flight board like I don't understand. I I don't like flights right now in general, but at home like.

00:26:37 KEN

Who? Who's making a flight?

00:26:38 ROB

If you're doing a vertical with your friends for you need.

00:26:41 DAN

Yeah, that's fair. That's a good point.

00:26:42 ROB

To for a bunch out.

00:26:43 WENDY

Frank, your friends are over and you're having some kind of party.

00:26:49 ROB

Alright, but I don't know specifically.

00:26:50 KEN

When was the last?

00:26:52 KEN

When was the last time you had a in person flight? Yeah.

00:27:02 WENDY

An in person flight at a house.

00:27:03 KEN

Like an in person vertical. Yeah. Someones house.

00:27:10 WENDY

Vertical no, but I have gone at tastings.

00:27:14 WENDY

Recently, but we haven't done any verticals, but we haven't done.

00:27:17 WENDY

Anything like that?

00:27:19 WENDY

At least I have it. I want to do a total tasting at home one time. One of these days I'm going to start doing beer classes and I'm going to do tastings at home in my backyard because now that we have all.

00:27:31 WENDY

This awesome patio furniture.

00:27:34 WENDY

So eventually, yeah, I'll have something like that at my house.

00:27:38 KEN

I I just don't.

00:27:41 KEN

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00:28:48 KEN

Others I don't see use for.

00:28:50 KEN

This at home other than it being like a.

00:28:52 KEN

Cool thing to talk about, like oh.

00:28:55 ROB

Look at this. Look what?

00:28:56 KEN

I can do like show off to your friends.

00:28:58 WENDY

Right.

00:28:59 DAN

That's half of these things.

00:29:01 KEN

Well, yes, yes.

00:29:01 WENDY

That's really what the Alice is for is to show off what?

00:29:04 ROB

These are for the person you don't want to buy.

00:29:06 WENDY

Right.

00:29:08 KEN

Vacuum insulated stainless steel beer bottle.

00:29:13 KEN

So this is.

00:29:13 KEN

Basically just a beer bottle koozie. I'm guessing it only fits 12 ounce bottles, yeah.

00:29:18 DAN

What are you using this for?

00:29:19 ROB

They make price.

00:29:22 KEN

The price is 30 bucks for these.

00:29:24

Oh boy.

00:29:24 WENDY

It's the only way that I could take my beer bottle out and my friends deck first.

00:29:29 KEN

Oh, all right. Just got a couple of those.

00:29:32 ROB

That's a good use case.

00:29:36 KEN

This, that's that's a very good use case for folks, maybe as we are in Michigan boating where you can you know where you don't want to necessarily do glass bottle, but maybe the beer you want only in glass bottle you can put it in.

00:29:51 KEN

A container like this where it should be.

00:29:56 KEN

You know, if you drop it, you should only.

00:29:59 KEN

Spill as opposed to brake?

00:30:03 KEN

I mean, that might actually be a good.

00:30:05 KEN

Good for your.

00:30:06 KEN

Your boating friends, people going up to Houghton Lake and stuff. Dan obviously doesn't want it cause.

00:30:11 KEN

He drinks his beer.

00:30:11 KEN

Too fast, yeah.

00:30:13 DAN

No need for that but.

00:30:15 KEN

I'm actually looking at it right now, so it does say beer bottled, but the actual thing the top comes off and it fits a beer can just fine.

00:30:25 KEN

So it does have dual usage. The the top does have a bottle opener for all you twist top users. This is actually pretty pretty neat. This is something that I might want especially for.

00:30:39 KEN

If it's one.

00:30:40 KEN

Of those days where it's like cold or something like that outside and I'm.

00:30:43 KEN

Drinking outside this might be a.

00:30:46 KEN

Something easier to hold on to than the glass bottle itself.

00:30:50 KEN

So I'm into it, I'm into it alright.

00:30:54 KEN

I think a.

00:30:54 KEN

Few of us have already had one of these. A state map of craft beer caps.

00:31:02 KEN

I have one for Michigan. I sold mine. I just have the you can see above my left shoulder. The shadow box on my refrigerator that has all of my.

00:31:16 KEN

Caps in it, probably for the last seven or eight years, I think.

00:31:21 KEN

It's about full too so.

00:31:23 KEN

I don't know what I'm gonna do with it afterwards. They never tell you that part.

00:31:28 WENDY

Somebody you can give it to if you need.

00:31:29 KEN

Do you just? Do you just like dump?

00:31:30 KEN

All the caps and start over again.

00:31:32 DAN

Start all over.

00:31:35 WENDY

My friend.

00:31:35 WENDY

Is jewelry with beer.

00:31:36 WENDY

Caps so she gets all the caps.

00:31:37 KEN

OK, I can. I can definitely do some donations to your friend, but is this something that you want? Something that do? Do you have state pride enough to make a beer cap state map?

00:31:50 ROB

So I don't get that many beer.

00:31:52 ROB

Caps anymore either.

00:31:54 DAN

Yeah, that's a good point.

00:31:55 WENDY

I do.

00:31:57 KEN

There is Indiana.

00:32:00 KEN

There is, it says 48.

00:32:03 KEN

Options, so I'm guessing Hawaii might not be an option.

00:32:07 DAN

Probably Alaska and Hawaii.

00:32:09 KEN

No, Alaska's got an option, that's for sure.

00:32:11 ROB

Maybe Colorado and Wyoming, they just use the same.

00:32:14 KEN

One Colorado that would be really funny. Well, so Colorado actually says like Colorado on.

00:32:24 KEN

In the cab.

00:32:25 KEN

Part that's that's exactly it.

00:32:27 KEN

Because Wyoming says Wyoming on it.

00:32:27 ROB

Does it?

00:32:29 ROB

Too are they front and back? Maybe.

00:32:32 KEN

I I don't think so, but.

00:32:34 DAN

Just hang it from the ceiling chandelier.

00:32:41 KEN

Not enough breweries have bottles anymore. It says bats McGee and our Twitch twitch.tv/butter on draft. Yeah, I think a lot of breweries are.

00:32:50 KEN

Going to cans, yeah.

00:32:52 KEN

I think it's it's passing us.

00:32:55 KEN

By for sure, unless you want.

00:32:56 KEN

To fill it up with the.

00:32:59 KEN

You know you can't get your your 40 ounces of king Cobra in these cap stands.

00:33:05 DAN

So oh, it doesn't fit.

00:33:06 WENDY

So one of the things that I put in the beer basket that we donated to the Senate Scholarship fundraisers, we're coasters that you could actually put beer caps in like that.

00:33:22 KEN

I think even looking.

00:33:23 KEN

At the the beer camp that I just took off of.

00:33:26 KEN

The massacre that I.

00:33:27 KEN

Had, like, it's kind of worthless now. It doesn't.

00:33:32 KEN

Like because it's bent so much.

00:33:35 ROB

So I do have, yeah.

00:33:35

Oh yeah, that's a.

00:33:36 DAN

Good point.

00:33:37 ROB

I do have United States, one that I'm looking at over my shoulder. It's full. I filled it. I finished filling it about a month or two ago, but that's because I was going for unique caps.

00:33:49 ROB

So it's full of all unique caps, which I don't know. I was pretty happy with, but it took me a couple of years.

00:33:54 ROB

To do that.

00:33:56 KEN

I'm gonna be honest though.

00:33:57 KEN

Like when you're going with the the Michigan beer, there's every six months or so on social media, Reddit, Debby, etcetera, people are always looking for these very specific beer caps because you can only do so much now when you're dealing with something like bells, bells has like a different beer.

00:34:16 KEN

Have for a lot of their different.

00:34:17 KEN

Beers so you can get the.

00:34:20 KEN

You know the the bird for the bells, amber. But yeah, as a lot of.

00:34:25 KEN

Brewers are going to cans, especially here in Michigan, like it's just going to be forever to find.

00:34:33 KEN

But beer books have you?

00:34:34 KEN

Guys ever read any beer books?

00:34:38 WENDY

I've got a whole stack of them right?

00:34:40 WENDY

Next to me.

00:34:41 KEN

But but have you read them?

00:34:43 WENDY

Yes. Yeah, I read all of them.

00:34:46 KEN

I've got through our journeys here at better on draft, how to brew Wild brews, the Dogfish head book, the World Atlas. So I've definitely got a few different books behind me on my bookshelf.

00:35:06 KEN

This is the Atlas of beer. I think this is.

00:35:08 KEN

More of a.

00:35:11 KEN

Coffee table book do coffee table books still exist anymore in like 2023?

00:35:17 ROB

Pretty sure got two right, yeah.

00:35:19 KEN

Like I know I know they exist, but how often are you having people over to?

00:35:25 KEN

You know to have coffee or tea.

00:35:26 WENDY

Like coffee table books don't have them on the table for their.

00:35:34 KEN

This is a must have.

00:35:35 KEN

Item from National Geographics Atlas Beer is a treasure trove of information about the history, geographic origins of every style of beer on the planet. Plus, it has colorful illustrations and a vintage style cover that makes it a cruel conversation piece.

00:35:50 KEN

To display when company comes for a cold one.

00:35:54 WENDY

I want to say I have that someplace.

00:35:57

So this is.

00:35:59 KEN

This is by Nancy Hollist Pullin and Mark W Patterson. I definitely have one right behind me. That's not by them, and I couldn't tell you who or what it is, but I know it.

00:36:10 ROB

Exists beer and food pairing book from Brooklyn the the head Brewer at Brooklyn whenever he wrote it. At least I don't know if he still is.

00:36:19 ROB

Or what? But it was pretty good. I enjoyed that book.

00:36:25

That's the one thing.

00:36:26 KEN

That hurts with such an ever moving industry, there was a book I saw in the UP I believe I was at Quantum and Falls Brewery and it was a book about Michigan beer and they were talking about breweries like the the tuba.

00:36:46 KEN

Museum that used to have a brewery inside of it and a toffee and Arcadia like all these breweries that are since long gone. And I'm like, wow, this is such an outdated book and I look at the book, it only says like 2014.

00:37:04 DAN

So that was.

00:37:04 DAN

A brewery and a tuba factory.

00:37:07 KEN

Ohh yeah, you didn't know.

00:37:08 KEN

About that here in Michigan.

00:37:08 DAN

No. Yeah, no, I.

00:37:10 KEN

Not a, not a tuba factory. The tuba museum.

00:37:14 DAN

Well, that's even better. That's a museum.

00:37:16

It seems that.

00:37:18 ROB

There's a very near the.

00:37:18 KEN

All right.

00:37:19 ROB

Mustard museum. But it's not.

00:37:20 DAN

In it, yeah.

00:37:21 KEN

It it it was in Okemos it was called the Travelers Club, International Restaurant and Tuba Museum. That's amazing.

00:37:28 KEN

But yeah, like.

00:37:32 KEN

All these breweries that don't exist anymore and then of course obviously in the missing all the breweries that have opened since, you know, we, God, when we started the show in 2015, it was not that many breweries compared to what it is now.

00:37:48 ROB

You've got one in a Knitting Factory right near you, the Rochester Mills.

00:37:48 KEN

So yeah.

00:37:53 KEN

The The Brew pub.

00:37:54 ROB

Thank you.

00:37:55 ROB

Yeah, that used to be in factory. Oh.

00:37:58 KEN

I learned something today, yeah.

00:37:59 KEN

I don't. I haven't been to the the brew.

00:38:02 KEN

Pub in.

00:38:03 KEN

Probably a decade or so, or I. Sorry, we.

00:38:06 KEN

Did go once.

00:38:07 KEN

For Oktoberfest, me and Matt Bush, I think Dan was.

00:38:10 KEN

There too, I think.

00:38:11 DAN

I was there.

00:38:11 KEN

You all y'all were making fun of me.

00:38:13 KEN

I'm wearing my Miami garb.

00:38:15 KEN

Yeah, cocaine beard chiller sticks for bottles.

00:38:23 KEN

So these are.

00:38:24 KEN

Basically, just like whiskey rocks, they basically go into a bottle of beer and it will chill your beer in seconds. I have these actually.

00:38:39 WENDY

Do they live?

00:38:39 KEN

They've never, they've never worked well. I put it into the beer and then like the beer foams up and foams over. So I don't know if I'm not using it right or anything like that.

00:38:53 WENDY

Maybe put it in cold beer.

00:38:55 WENDY

And it keeps it cold.

00:38:59 DAN

Yes, it's supposed to.

00:38:59 ROB

I think that's just.

00:39:01 KEN

Make it.

00:39:04 KEN

Popping directly into any bottle of room.

00:39:06 KEN

Temperature beer to chill your beverage in mere seconds.

00:39:07 DAN

Ohh wow, yeah, just waste your beer basically.

00:39:12 DAN

It's a gimmick to like make you.

00:39:14 KEN

Yeah, like I.

00:39:14 DAN

Spend money and.

00:39:17 KEN

I mean, this is probably something that was either gifted to me or one of our.

00:39:22 KEN

Guests gave it to us.

00:39:25 KEN

But yeah.

00:39:25 ROB

I only ever run into that problem when I'm in a hotel, and then I just fill an ice bucket and put some water in it and stick the thing in there and it will be chilled pretty.

00:39:34 DAN

Quickly, it takes minutes. Yeah, it's fast.

00:39:36 WENDY

I just put mine in the freezer.

00:39:38 KEN

But this takes seconds.

00:39:42 KEN

Beer related T-shirts. *** ****, how many beer related?

00:39:48 KEN

Outfits. Do we have?

00:39:51 DAN

Like a my beer box.

00:39:54 KEN

Oh, my first first of.

00:39:55 KEN

All the the Michigan beer box.

00:39:56 KEN

Hoodie is the greatest thing ever.

00:39:58 DAN

I agree. I absolutely agree with that.

00:40:02 KEN

Shout out to.

00:40:02 WENDY

If you're watching, I never got mine.

00:40:04 KEN

I I.

00:40:06 KEN

He already he.

00:40:07 DAN

Has one.

00:40:08 KEN

Messaged me today looking for jockey boxes for his wedding, so I will ping him.

00:40:15 KEN

I I we we got a I got a Hawaiian shirt from BJ's.

00:40:21 DAN

Yeah, that sounds good.

00:40:23 KEN

OK. So we we all got Hawaiian shirts.

00:40:26 KEN

Sorry Rob, this was you.

00:40:27

That's right.

00:40:27 KEN

Know before you I've got.

00:40:31 KEN

So many shirts, so many like.

00:40:36 KEN

Beer related swag.

00:40:38 KEN

That it's just.

00:40:39 KEN

It's too much and I think that's more because of the business that I'm in here as craft beer media. But would you like, where are you going to wear these beer shirts? That's not like a beer fest.

00:40:55 ROB

I had to stop wearing them to my kids.

00:40:57 ROB

Those functions but.

00:40:58 ROB

Now my kids are older, so I.

00:40:59 ROB

Can do it again.

00:41:01 DAN

So I've got shirts from Black Sky and true in Denver. People don't.

00:41:06 DAN

Even know those are beer shirts?

00:41:09 KEN

Yeah, I mean these this.

00:41:11 KEN

Is a very specific like.

00:41:12 KEN

Optimist like it's it's a very, very.

00:41:16 KEN

Let me see if I can actually.

00:41:20 KEN

Change the screen here.

00:41:22 KEN

I can just go like this and try it again.

00:41:27 KEN

There you go. So like, these are all the different shirts that come up when you search, like optimist. And it's like beer facts, hops the soul of beer. Beer is not the answer.

00:41:38 DAN

Nobody is wearing you.

00:41:41 KEN

I mean, there's a.

00:41:43 KEN

These are definitely shirts.

00:41:45 KEN

That probably get bought for a lot of people who are craft beer fans that you can't buy for like you don't know what to.

00:41:52 KEN

Buy them.

00:41:55 DAN

Sure, if they won't wear.

00:41:56 KEN

When you go to a beer fest though, this this.

00:41:58 KEN

Shirt is this shirt is like huge at beer fests. Ohh yeah like the.

00:42:05 KEN

The optimist or?

00:42:06 WENDY

Of course 99.

00:42:07 KEN

Like the anatomy of a hop.

00:42:09 WENDY

99% of what I own is beer related clothing. I actually just got a really nice hat and a shirt in the mail that I ordered like a year ago and forgot about it. I'm not sure what happened all of a sudden. It showed up in the mail yesterday.

00:42:26 WENDY

I was thinking bonus but.

00:42:28 ROB

Nice, I'm.

00:42:30 WENDY

It's either that or DCFC. So.

00:42:34 WENDY

That's pretty much what I'm wearing every day.

00:42:37 ROB

I'm wearing a new glare shirt right now.

00:42:41 KEN

I'm wearing a mono.

00:42:43 KEN

Color T-shirt.

00:42:45 KEN

Because that's the kind of person I've turned into, is.

00:42:49 KEN

I I have.

00:42:51 KEN

My my graphic Tees for like everyday wear when I'm not like working or coaching or anything like that.

00:43:01 KEN

So I'm sorry, I had the model color shirts for like coaching and you know, work and stuff. And then I have, like graphic Tees for everything else. Like, I'm not. I'm not spending money on clothing that like I I get my graphic Tees for like 5 bucks. Like, oh, here's the sale buy it.

00:43:18 KEN

This is another book, the Beer Bible. We can skip right over it. Here's the beer.

00:43:27 WENDY

I hit.

00:43:28 KEN

We we talked for like 3 minutes about craft beer.

00:43:31 KEN

Books. What's what's?

00:43:32 DAN

I think we're talking about the.

00:43:33 DAN

Beer, Mitt. Ohh, the beer mint.

00:43:34 ROB

We left it at the beer bit.

00:43:36 KEN

Ohh sorry you're laughing. I thought you were laughing at me.

00:43:38 KEN

Just like going right past.

00:43:39 WENDY

The book no, I did that.

00:43:40 DAN

Laugh it up.

00:43:41 KEN

This the beer meets.

00:43:43 WENDY

I had that, I will say.

00:43:44 DAN

Wendy, if you don't start.

00:43:45 DAN

Using that every show, I'm going to be disappointed.

00:43:47 WENDY

Oh my God. So I can't use it, because here's what happened. I went to winter beer fest. I got it as a a secret pale gift from the from my JC secret pal.

00:43:57 WENDY

And I took it to winter beer fest because it's ******* old and it was the year that they had the 50 Shades of Dragons milk. Do you guys remember that?

00:44:09 DAN

Yeah, what happened?

00:44:11

It was.

00:44:12 WENDY

I lost the beer mix.

00:44:15 WENDY

They I lost. I lost the people that I.

00:44:15

Why did?

00:44:16

You lose it.

00:44:18 WENDY

Was with and then.

00:44:20 DAN

But it stays on your hand.

00:44:20 WENDY

I no it did not. After 50 Shades of Dragons.

00:44:26 KEN

OK.

00:44:27 KEN

All right, I I need I I need a timeout because I need you guys to look at the screen folks. If you're not watching, go check out the videoyoutube.com. Tell me, this is not photoshopped.

00:44:39 DAN

Ohh 100% look.

00:44:40

At the arm, look at.

00:44:41 WENDY

It's definitely Photoshop.

00:44:43 KEN

Some of these photos, like it is so ridiculously Photoshop.

00:44:50 WENDY

But it does work.

00:44:52 DAN

Maybe she's got a prosthetic arm.

00:44:52 KEN

All right.

00:44:54 DAN

That it's with no hand. It's just with stump.

00:44:57 KEN

It is. It is.

00:44:57 ROB

The fingers aren't around the beer.

00:45:01 KEN

It's Wendy approved it.

00:45:05 WENDY

I've I've considered buying it again like.

00:45:07 DAN

OK, well, I'm ready for this next one.

00:45:12 ROB

It looks suggestive.

00:45:12 WENDY

I have not been.

00:45:13 WENDY

Back to Winter Beer fest in a few years and now I'm old and don't like the cold, so I don't see it happening.

00:45:24 KEN

Alright, so I'm going to preface this next one by saying that.

00:45:28 KEN

I actually owned.

00:45:29 DAN

This at one point. Ohh boy oh boy.

00:45:32 KEN

This was gifted to me by someone who apparently could not figure out something to buy for me, and this is the leather beer holster. Absolutely amazing that you attached to your belt.

00:45:43 DAN

App come with it inside come with an inside the waistband version for the secret beer.

00:45:50 KEN

It does. It does not.

00:45:53 WENDY

That would be awesome.

00:45:55 KEN

This was a choice, somebody.

00:45:58 KEN

Gave me, that's for sure.

00:46:01 DAN

You need to start wearing this everywhere you go.

00:46:03 WENDY

I will be very disappointed if you're not wearing it the next time.

00:46:06 KEN

Yeah, yeah, this this has been re.

00:46:06 WENDY

I see you.

00:46:10 DAN

Gifted to say the least.

00:46:11 WENDY

At disappointment.

00:46:13 ROB

Could you actually walk while you're while it's in use?

00:46:17 KEN

So it is good.

00:46:18 KEN

For the next beer, it is not good for.

00:46:21 DAN

The not for the open beer.

00:46:27 KEN

It is. It is not good for an open beer. No, but for the next.

00:46:29 ROB

Yeah. Just so you got legs.

00:46:31 KEN

For the.

00:46:31 KEN

It's beer. It it definitely it worked. It it did what it did. But for me, like I'm the kind of person where I can hold two or three bottles of beer and function as an adult and not have any issues. So I don't need a fourth beer on my.

00:46:47 KEN

On my.

00:46:49 KEN

On my.

00:46:50 DAN

Need one for each side.

00:46:50 ROB

I I see in the description the problem is you have to stroll through the BBQ like John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Joan Crawford, right. So you were probably walking wrong, alright.

00:46:58 WENDY

Or John.

00:47:05 WENDY

They had to tell us what movie she was in so that we.

00:47:08 WENDY

Could figure it out.

00:47:11 KEN

She was Johnny guitar. Look it up. It doesn't work.

00:47:11 WENDY

If you have to explain the joke.

00:47:18 KEN

You think the holster is cool? Search beer suspenders. That is from my phone. In the chat, we'll.

00:47:24 KEN

We'll get there before the the hour ends. It looks like this might be.

00:47:25 DAN

Ohh boy.

00:47:28 KEN

The entire show today.

00:47:30 KEN

Walk. Pog. You know what? I don't hate it.

00:47:34 DAN

You hang with on the wall and just yeah.

00:47:35 ROB

Pittsburgh, New York, apartment.

00:47:37 DAN

Yeah, this is kind of cool.

00:47:39 KEN

Yeah, it's it's a A.

00:47:41 KEN

Six cup setup.

00:47:43 KEN

You basically just hang it on the wall. It is $60.00 which I mean.

00:47:50 DAN

Triangle shaped piece of wood.

00:47:53 KEN

I mean, Dan, you can go in there and.

00:47:54 WENDY

Six cup holders.

00:47:56 DAN

Right. Ohh yeah. OK, yeah. The cup holder is.

00:47:58 WENDY

I'm sure the red plastic cups don't come with it. You have to buy the solo cups on your own.

00:48:04 KEN

Simply secure them to the wall with adhesive tabs attached. Metal brackets fill the cups and go.

00:48:11 KEN

I mean.

00:48:13 KEN

This is one of the things where you know how we have those like very artsy places here in Michigan like the the rustic belt. And there's a place in Detroit where they allow you to do like your own, like, Walmart and stuff like this would be great for them to be like, hey, we can show you how to produce this real quick and.

00:48:31 KEN

You can produce.

00:48:31 KEN

It here and.

00:48:34 KEN

Drink while you do it.

00:48:37 KEN

At 60 bucks, that's yeah. Woof.

00:48:41 DAN

The price? The price.

00:48:42 KEN

Is just enough or not bad enough to where I probably would still buy it.

00:48:50 KEN

What do we got? We got a IPA.

00:48:52 WENDY

For $60.00 so I could.

00:48:53 WENDY

Get my own folding table.

00:48:55 WENDY

To put a full game on.

00:48:56 KEN

I I think I.

00:48:57 KEN

Think the points.

00:48:58 KEN

Not to have the the the table be.

00:49:00 KEN

The the center of attention like.

00:49:03 KEN

To not have all that space in there.

00:49:06 KEN

That's my guess. I mean I I used to bring a beer pong table with me to parties and and ****. Like I I made a nice foldable table that fit it was we put together 22 by 4, two foot by 4 foot pieces of board we put.

00:49:27 KEN

Clamps in the middle so it could fold up. We put handles on the side so you can carry them. We were very serious back in like the early 2000s of our beer pong.

00:49:41 KEN

Dan and I, Dan and I went to a beer pong tournament in Vegas and proceeded to get our ***** handed.

00:49:47 DAN

Got our *****.

00:49:52 KEN

I had never been so terrible at beer pong until I played against people who play it a lot more than I.

00:50:01 KEN

Did and the the worst.

00:50:02 DAN

Part is when that guy.

00:50:03 DAN

Eat you instead of.

00:50:04 DAN

Having you drink the beer he just took it and.

00:50:05 DAN

Drank it himself.

00:50:06 KEN

Ohh yeah, he's not getting.

00:50:08

It, yeah.

00:50:12 KEN

I think Blondie still does it once a week.

00:50:14 KEN

Yeah, your pong tournament.

00:50:16 DAN

They do.

00:50:18 KEN

We we talked about it.

00:50:19 KEN

Earlier, like the the beer related food beer related Beer Soap IPA Candle, we actually had a a candle company. Oh, oh, yeah. They're they're early. Early days. I on the other hand, like I'm I'm not a big candle kind of person.

00:50:26

We have my.

00:50:28 DAN

Early days.

00:50:38 KEN

You you, you can all ******* laugh at me all you want and I'll I'll admit it fully. I'm an essential oils guy. I got my little diffuser over there. Love the great snow.

00:50:47 DAN

Yeah. And then those lose, they lose a cent. Like 3 seconds.

00:50:52 KEN

I definitely make sure to put a lot in there, probably more than I should.

00:50:58 KEN

But yeah, I'm not. I'm.

00:50:59 KEN

Not too big in the candles or.

00:51:01 KEN

Beer soap. What about Wendy, rob.

00:51:04 ROB

I'm pretty sure I have some beer soup around that has been gifted to me over the years.

00:51:09 ROB

That is, I'm not. It's one.

00:51:11 ROB

Of those things, you're not going to use. You don't want your hands to smell like. Well, maybe you do.

00:51:14 ROB

But you probably don't.

00:51:14 DAN

Want your hands to smell like beer, but if you're leaving the house?

00:51:18 KEN

I mean, if you can get I.

00:51:20 KEN

I feel like you're you're going.

00:51:21 KEN

To get more of.

00:51:21 KEN

The Piney smell, as opposed to more.

00:51:24 KEN

Of the like labat blue smell.

00:51:29 ROB

But if you go to any, any brewery that has a gift shop, they will have their beer in soap form in candle form. What's that?

00:51:36 WENDY

I have gifted beer soap on occasion or two. I don't really. You know, I'm also an essential oils girl.

00:51:40 KEN

I'm trying to think.

00:51:45 KEN

Dan, did Shiner have anything like?

00:51:48 KEN

This when we were at their beer.

00:51:49 KEN

Store. I don't remember anything like that.

00:51:50 DAN

I don't remember anything like that either, and I'm kind of surprised that they didn't. Maybe we just missed it, but you would think they do.

00:51:59 KEN

If if you do get a.

00:52:01 KEN

Chance go over to the the Shiner brewery. When you do go there, make sure to obviously eat there. Great food, great tour, great beer and of course the.

00:52:12 KEN

The the little gift shop was crazy. Me, myself, Dan and our friend Brian who went over there. We were just looking at everything and we were probably in there for a good 3045 minutes trying to figure out what we wanted to buy it was.

00:52:26 KEN

A lot of great.

00:52:27 KEN

Stuff the last thing before I go.

00:52:30 KEN

And do what?

00:52:32 KEN

Mr. Mudbone said and look at beer suspenders, but a 20.

00:52:36 KEN

Four canned backpack.

00:52:38 DAN

This is amazing.

00:52:39 KEN

This is an igloo, so it's obviously a brand named a backpack.

00:52:45 KEN

I'm guessing it's just a backpack with insulation. Holy ****, it's only $70.

00:52:51 ROB

If it holds them separate.

00:52:53 ROB

You know, you gotta keep them separated. Then I would be.

00:52:55 ROB

Into it.

00:52:58 KEN

It so it I'm guessing it holds 24.

00:53:03 KEN

24 cans like filled to the brim.

00:53:07 KEN

I'm looking at it right now from.

00:53:10 KEN

Igloo it's, it's.

00:53:11 KEN

A true backpack. It's got nice little straps, heat sealed insulated liner double zip lid.

00:53:21 KEN

For only $70.00, that's actually not.

00:53:24 KEN

A bad price that.

00:53:25 KEN

That might be a gift you might be wanting to.

00:53:28 KEN

To look at for your your friend of that.

00:53:33 KEN

It's hard to buy for right now.

00:53:37 KEN

Is this something you guys would?

00:53:41 ROB

It looks like Kroger sells it.

00:53:44 DAN

Kroger sells it.

00:53:45 WENDY

Kroger sells the igloo.

00:53:48 DAN

Well, yeah.

00:53:51 KEN

All right. So before we we end the episode as we've been talking about all these gifts, obviously for those who are buying for their friends who are beer, you know, related people, be mindful, ask them probably the easiest. But I did find the beer suspenders and folks better on draft.

00:54:12 KEN

Dot com, forward slash YouTube or YouTube forward Slash better on draft Twitch forward slash, better on draft.

00:54:19 KEN

This is here it is.

00:54:23 KEN

Your beer suspenders.

00:54:25 DAN

Ohh boy Ohh, this is amazing. Can I found what I'm getting you.

00:54:28 ROB

Let's see the bottle.

00:54:29 DAN

For your wedding.

00:54:30 KEN

I don't know. Obviously you need to get his and hers. I mean, that'd be very rude to not buy.

00:54:36 DAN

Well, that's fair.

00:54:38 KEN

A pair. This is the beer suspenders.

00:54:44 KEN

It looks like.

00:54:44 KEN

It holds two cans. It's got its own bottle opener.

00:54:50 KEN

I don't know what the koozie is there the.

00:54:52 KEN

Little cigar stick.

00:54:54 KEN

You can. How's your cigar up there?

00:54:54 DAN

Yeah, yeah.

00:54:58 KEN

Along with the beers.

00:55:01 KEN

Oh man, you think I could pull this off for the wedding day and have this under everyone's jet? Jocelyn in our Facebook pages saying are they insulated? Jocelyn, I have no idea. We just learned about beer suspenders 3 seconds ago.

00:55:04 DAN

Probably probably.

00:55:22 KEN

It looks like they're insulated based on this graphic.

00:55:25 DAN

Is that a coozy that's.

00:55:28 KEN

It's it's the koozie. So yeah, there's.

00:55:30 KEN

There's a koozie.

00:55:31 KEN

Up here you can stack up your beer.

00:55:36 ROB

You're going to be the.

00:55:36 ROB

Gift Ideas for Beer Snobs | Better on Draft 334

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