Oh hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie Approved. Welcome back to all 12 of you that listened last week. Were there 12? We're famous. It was actually 12. We're actually famous. So I posted the episode and... So night one was, or, like, after night one, it was four people. Pretty sure one of them was my dad. Yeah, and me. Oh, yeah, because you listen. Wait, did you listen, like, to the Raw thing I sent you, or did you listen on Apple Podcasts? Oh, no, I listened
to, like, the Raw. Oh, so one of them is for sure Huck, and then I know one of them was Josh Taylor. Sure. Because he was like, I need to listen. So Josh, if you're listening, hi, thank you. Our biggest fan and supporter. Appreciate you. Thanks for always believing in me. What's going on today? What's on your mind today? Not a lot. I'm so tired. I do not have the brain capacity for it to think. It's just exhaustion and depression up there. So. Emma's pregnant.
Emma is... Almost... Tomorrow I'll be 11 weeks pregnant, so I'm almost through the first trimester. Jesus Christ, that's been quick. Do you guys want to know how I found out Emma was pregnant? Because I'm mad about this. To this day, I'm mad about this. Okay, go. So I text Emma, and I said, hey, I want to pre -order tickets to the Kesha. to the Keshet tour in Indy. And I said, yes! And he said, yeah, let's do it. And
I said, okay. And then, like, I screenshot her, like, the thing that's like, okay, pre -orders are about to be live. And I was like, I'm so excited. And then you go, actually, I'll be, like, six months pregnant. And I was like, I guess I'll just kill myself. Like, I guess I wasn't meant to have a good life. So true. And Travis is so funny. Obviously, he's not privy to the pregnancy thing. No, I'm not familiar.
And the way he texted me, I think it was literally yesterday, asking if I wanted to join a dodgeball or a kickball group. And I said, I cannot take impact in my stomach, mama. Maybe next year. Yeah, so this is something you'll all learn about me as time goes on. I have this fun thing where I decide I want to do things. So it's like I text Emma and I was like, hey, let's join an adult dodgeball league. Let's do kickball. And she's like, okay. Or like, it's a podcast. Like,
let's do a podcast. And she's like, okay. The one that was a hard no was when he was under the delusion that we were going to train for the Lululemon Bearathon. Oh, yeah. Absolutely not. Never in all my days. Well, so I have this sick obsession with Miami. Something else you'll come to learn about me is I have a sick obsession with very specific geolocations in the United States. One of them's Atlanta. One of them's Miami. I don't know where the rest of them are.
But I got an email from Lululemon saying, hey, we're gonna do a... Was it a marathon or a half marathon? Gone to my head, I couldn't tell you. Anyway. But I said, let's do this! And Emma said, no. Never would I ever do that. Ever. And I remember very vividly sitting in the waiting area at Suntan City being like, why doesn't she support my dreams? I ran cross country in middle school. And number one, I was not good at it. And number two, I wanted to die every second that I was racing
or practicing or anything. So I'm not a marathon runner. I'm not even a half marathon runner. I'm not a 5K runner. I really respect all the people who do, and I cry at all the TikToks every year of people finishing their marathons and being so proud of themselves. That could have been us in Miami. Right. I'm so happy for them, though. I personally do not want to destroy my feet or pee on my legs. That's fair. That's fair. I do respect those who do. That's fair. I think
that's beautiful. So I learned in the first episode, we didn't really get to know each other. Well, we know each other. The audience didn't get to know us that well. Okay. Let's talk about us, because it's our favorite subject. Yeah. And I thought something fun would be our firsts. Okay. What was your first job? My first job was at Marco's Pizza off of Southport Road in Indianapolis, Indiana. And I was basically forced to sign a sexual harassment affidavit. And it was great.
It was great. I loved it. You were 16 years old. Not even, no. I was like 14 or 15. What? Yeah. You can work that young? Yeah, if you have a parent sign off on it, yeah. Oh. Yeah, it's really kind of weird. And, like, I had to walk there, so I had to cross Southport Road on my own two legs. And it was a whole thing. You know what? It toughened me up. It was an experience. Probably you. My second job was honestly amazing. One of my favorite jobs ever. I worked at Ritter's,
and I worked there for years. I loved working there. I had other jobs on the side while I worked there because they're closed in the winter. But I loved it. Loved it. Ritter's is the frozen, oh my God. Frozen custard, yes. Frozen custard, I can't, yeah. Yeah. Is that like an Indiana thing or is that? No, because Culver's is frozen custard too. No, but like is. Oh, Ritter's. No, they have stores in Florida and somewhere else, but they began in Indiana if I, don't look it
up. My first job was at Hollister at the Castleton Square Mall. At Castleton? Yeah. At the Castleton Square Mall. I very vividly remember I walked in and I was 17 years old and it was dark and it smelled like SoCal. the cologne that they sprayed around the store. And he said, I'm home. And I said, I love this place so much. And then the store manager, who shall remain nameless, but was a demon monster. I, yeah. Retail managers
often are demon monsters. Oh, but like when you work for the Abercrombie and Fitch family of brands, it's even worse. I'm sure. Um, she comes up to me, she goes, hey, I have a question for ya. And I was like, what? It's like I was so honored to be talked to by this woman. And she goes, do you have a job? Do you want a job here? And that's they call it recruiting. And looking back on it, it's so sick because they were like,
do you want to be a model at Hollister? And I was like, there's nothing I've ever wanted more than that. And so I was a Hollister model, which for those of you who have not worked for Hollister or Abercrombie and Fitch, being a model there only consisted of. folding clothes and standing at the front of the store, on the women's side of the store, because it was women's one and men's one when you first walked in, and you stood up in women's one and you said, hey guys, what's
going on? Just like that? Yeah, that was the job expectation. And you folded clothes and you sometimes worked the cash register, sometimes you didn't. That's... Yeah. Yeah. See, your first job seems so, like you're talking about the job functions. All I can remember from my first job are the people. There was a gang member involved. The owner was hardly ever there, and when she was there, she very much clutched her pearls at everything that was occurring in the store.
When was the first time you realized adulthood was a scam? Because I know the answer to this for me. I feel like very early on, like in college. I was like, there's not enough money and there's not enough time to do anything the way you would want to do it. It was probably the first time I ever wrote out a budget and realized I would need to make $700 ,000 a year to maintain a lifestyle that I deemed worthy for myself. That's probably
the first time. I continue to realize it's a scam, though, with the whole insurance thing. Oh, Jesus God, the insurance thing. My God, I was freaking out. I had my first OB -GYN appointment, right? And I was freaking out because my son has insurance, but I do not right now. And I applied for insurance. It's a whole thing, okay? I'm not going to get into it. But anyway, I was nervous because I was walking into the OB -GYN telling them I'm self -pay. To which they say,
okay. And then hand me a bill for ultrasound, education, and a physical exam. $247. And I'll tell you another thing. They took nine vials of my blood. $42 .50 for those labs. By the way. I believe that's how it should be. It's beautiful, right? But I guarantee you, if I had insurance, it would be $2 ,000, and I would need to pay probably a similar amount that I am paying out of pocket. Yes. So the whole thing is a scam.
I'm not telling you not to have health insurance, because if you go break your leg, that's not on me. But it's a scam. And I got these special labs done for the baby to see if they have anything wrong with them genetically. And it tells us the sex of the baby, so I'll find out, like, super early. I'll know next week the sex of the baby. Do you want to know early? Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, because I want to start shopping. Okay. And those labs, which are optional and extra.
An extra $250, except the place that does those labs has a financial aid thing. And if you're like me, a realtor who's made nothing yet this year, it's zero dollars, mama. I don't understand. Like... Yeah. And this is the thing that I'll never understand is, like, you have insurance. You still have to pay for things. You're paying for the insurance for the privilege to pay more. Yes. You're probably paying what I paid for my appointment every month for insurance out of
your paycheck. No, you're not. You're paying more. Let me explain something to you. So Emma was there for my experience when I bought health insurance through the marketplace. Yes. Where it was. And you had a guardian angel helping you. And it's still like this. Yes. I had. I had someone navigating the process with me who's special. No, wait, no, no, no. I didn't have that. That was completely separate. Oh. That was, she was like, oh, sorry, I can't help you.
I was like a guardian angel. No, I had a friend who understood insurance. This was separate. Who was like, oh, yeah, this is the one you need to pick. Okay. And I was like, okay. The one I needed to pick was $564 a month. A month? A month. And I was like, okay, that sounds about right. Perfect. So I pay that. But here's the thing. If I don't have insurance and the worst happens, I am admitted to the hospital and I have to stay there forever and I get a bill for
$100 ,000, guess what? I'm just not going to pay it. Oh. I'll take it one step further. I had a stroke. I had insurance at the time. Oh, yeah. The hospital. was so comfortable sending me a bill for $40 ,000. Literally had a stroke at work. Oh, my God. And the fact that I had it at work is completely irrelevant. I had health insurance. They asked me when I was laying there in the bed, is this your health insurance information?
Because apparently they can just find it. They don't need your health insurance card, even though they make you give it to them every time. Apparently there's just some database where they could put in your name, and it just shows up. That's actually so irritating because you lose your insurance card and you go to the doctor and they go, I don't know. I don't know if we can see you today. But I said, yeah, that's me. And they said, great. You're going to meet your deductible this year.
Meaning the most I should have had to pay was $1 ,000. Yeah. Great. Perfect. Gorgeous. Love that. Yeah. Pay your doctor. The hospital was so comfortable sending me a bill for $40 ,000. And I said, that's none of my business. That must be a mistake. Like, do you actually think I'm going to pay that too? No. Because you're just as deluded as I am. Right. If you think that. To this day, I don't know what happened with that bill. I hope they billed my insurance.
I hope someone got paid for that. I do. But anyway, what was your... First time you realized it was a scam. The first time I got a tax bill from the IRS. Oh, yeah. The first time that I said, you people are taking money out of my paycheck every single two weeks. Every other week. And that's not enough. Not enough. I never understood the idea that the IRS knows how much you owe, but they want you to play this fun little guessing game first. Sweet Kenny. Sweet, sweet Kenny.
The first year he made money, he hopped on TurboTax and he said, I really don't want to get this wrong. I must hire a TurboTax CPA. No. He did. No. And he FaceTimed with them and they answered his questions and filled out his taxes. And I was like, sister girl, you could have done this with them. Bless Kenny Hart. I know. I know. He still thinks I should be a CPA. That was my dream a few years ago. I would rather die. I would be a good CPA, and I would enjoy it. But,
uh... And here's the God's honest truth. My birthday falls a week before the tax filing deadline. I'm not interested in doing that. No. Like, I can't be that busy during my birthday. And also, people are so... I don't want to get back into finance. People are so shitty about money all of the time, all of the time. But, no, that was the first time I realized adulthood was a scam. And here's the God's honest truth. I'm happy to pay taxes for people to eat. I'm happy to
pay taxes for people to have health care. I'm thrilled to pay taxes. Yeah. If anything, I'm a socialist. Yeah. Tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax. It's just the... It just doesn't seem like we're doing the right thing with the tax dollars. That's just what I'm gonna say. And the systems that are in place for to tax us are not ideal. Um, yeah. When was the first time you felt like a grown -up? I felt more like a grown -up when I was, like, a teenager. Than I do today. Okay.
The first time I felt like a grown -up was the first time I got a set of press -on nails. And I was walking around my house going... I love that. On everything. On everything. I feel like I'm pretending, though. Like, right now. I don't feel like I'm a grown -up. I feel like I'm pretending to be a grown -up. And I'm a mother. You're an expecting mother. I know. I don't feel like a grown -up. And I... I haven't for a long time. Fair. When's the first time you felt like a grown
up? I don't, I haven't. Yeah, I don't think I've ever felt. That's the God's honest truth. Honestly, when I was like 16 or 17 and I thought I was like hot shit, I felt more like a grown up then.
Like when I was driving for the first time and I like had a little boyfriend and I. smoke weed and do stuff and like whatever like I felt I felt so grown up and cunty then and like I don't know what happened to me but I feel like a child now well that's okay yeah I'd rather feel like a child than washed up what makes you feel unhinged I I know one for you what is it Because the one I put on the list for you is what I know for
you. What is the one you know for me? Yeah. The way your granny and papa set the heat in their house. That does make me unhinged. So my granny and papa love to turn the heat up in their house to... As high as it'll go. Truly. Like 78 degrees any time during the year. It doesn't matter if it's 94 degrees outside. My room was always the hottest room in the house. So consistently, my room is always, always, always 10 degrees hotter than the rest of the house. That does make me
unhinge. Something that makes you unhinge is chewing noises. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a phobia. It's called mesophonia or mesophonia or something like that. I'm not a doctor. But yeah, I'm not the only one. Chewing sounds make me crazy. And I have resorted now to just putting in AirPods. Because, like, here's the thing. If it's a stranger, right, they don't deserve to incur the wrath that is me. You know who does, though? Me. Yeah. So here's the problem I've
always had, is that... If it's someone I don't know very well, I cannot tell them that they're being loud as fuck and rude. I can't. I just cannot. But if it's someone I love dearly in my heart, I will tell them to shut the fuck up and they are the spawn of Satan and that they're not thinking of me. and they're not thoughtful, and they're full of hatred. And I don't know why I'm like that, but I am. Like, Kenny gets it the worst, probably, because he just will
be chewing. And I'm like, I made that food for you, and now you're playing in my face. My favorite thing ever was when we shared an office, and it would be lunchtime, and we would inevitably do the hour -long fight about where are we going to eat today. And it was always... It was never not Wendy's. Yeah. I mean, there's other stuff sometimes. But Wendy's was preferred. Wendy's was where we ate probably three out of five days every single week. I love Wendy's. I do too.
Wendy's. Sponsor. Bestie approved. Please. You're Bestie approved, Wendy's. Wendy. Yeah. Love your red hair. Love your Twitter. Please, please sponsor us. So. We would go get Wendy's. One of us would go pick it up. Doesn't matter who. We would be sitting in the office and it would be the maybe 20 minutes a day that we had to ourselves. We could close the door. We could eat. We could invite our office friends into the office. We
could just have a good sit and eat. And inevitably, 14 seconds in, Emma would look me dead in the face and go, can you turn on the Sonos? Can you please turn on some music or something so I don't have to listen to you too? That's like the kindest I can be is like, can we turn some sounds on? And I was so excited to just sit there and talk to you. And we can talk. Okay, because here's
the thing. And I genuinely am trying to make it an enjoyable experience for everyone because if there is another sound happening, I'm okay. Like I can focus on that sound and kind of like tune out the chews of it all. But when it's like dead silence except for chewing, I literally want to rip out my own throat. Like I don't know what it is and I really wish I could get a grip on it. I probably need a prescription and a therapist.
I can't. I can't. And it's weird. I wasn't like that as a child, obviously, but I remember when it happened because I just started noticing people chewing and being like, oh, I don't like that. I think I agree because I used to have it. Actually, no, I still kind of have a thing about it sometimes where like if it's like a very. This is... I apologize. If it's like a wet chewing noise, I can't handle it. Yeah. Like if it's like a crunchy, it doesn't bother me. But if it's like
a... It's anytime I can hear someone spit. That's exactly what it is for me. Anytime. And I don't know. I don't know. I just have a weird thing with sounds, to be honest. I don't like driving in the car if there's no noise. Like Kenny... We'll start driving somewhere and just not put any music on or anything. Oh, I have to have some level of not being alone with my own thoughts in the car. I don't want silence ever. When I'm home alone, either the speaker is on or there's
something on the TV. I agree. I hate silence. My therapist has talked to me a lot about this. And it's a thing where you don't want to be alone with your own thoughts because you don't want to like sit and feel. And it's true. I don't. I'm not interested in it. That's not going to be constructive for anyone. No, certainly not me. Not me. I'm so hormonal. I cried myself to sleep last night over my cat who we put down two and a half months ago. Has it really been
that long? Yeah. Yeah, I cried and cried and cried last night. And when we put her down, I did not handle it well. I cried a lot then, too. But I've been okay for, like, a long time. Like, I miss her, but it's fine. Not last night, though. Last night, Kenny looked over at me, because we were just, like, reading in bed, right? Like, old people. And he was like, are you okay? And I was like, yeah. And I cry myself to sleep. Genuinely. I'm sorry. No, I'm just like hormonal.
But that is what will happen if I sit alone in my thoughts. I will have a mental breakdown. And no one needs that. No one needs that. No one needs that. Or I can sing like Whitney Houston in my house and feel very productive. You can. You know. And that's okay. What's a weird habit you have? A weird habit? Yeah. I don't think I have a lot of... Oh. Yes, you do. I clip my cuticles a lot. There it is. There it is. Okay, so this stems back to... I started doing my own
nails at home. I spent $300 on the light. I do gel. It's great. I have nails on right now. She
never... She... never doesn't wait she always has nails never doesn't have nails right okay because i can do them at home and so it's not expensive it just takes time and whatever the problem you see is that part of doing my own nails then is clipping my own cuticles and that scratched the addictive part of my personality like you would not believe and now i can't stop i probably could clip my cuticles If not every single day, probably every other. I don't know,
a day you've missed? Yeah. I can't stop. So Emma and I are on FaceTime at minimum for an hour every single day. And at some point, I know the phone will be propped up against something and she will pull out that little fucking cube and just go to town. And she's just like, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip. And then she's like, you can't stop doing it. Yeah, don't start. Don't start clipping your own cuticles because then you can't stop. It's not that, like, cuticle
-wise you can't stop. Your cuticles are just cuticles. But, like, impulsively, you can't. You can't stop. It's a really hard thing. It's insane. It's insanity. Yeah, it's bad. Do you have any weird habits? Yeah, I have an obsession with buying storage and, like, organization things. Like, the number of, like, I have a drawer at home that's just drawer organizers. Like, you know I love those clear acrylic TikTok drawer organizers that I'm like, this is the perfect
size for everything. I will buy, like, if I see, like, because, you know, I have a sick obsession with Amazon. Yeah. You know that, like, if something comes up on Amazon and it's, like, a deal for you, whenever I get that email, a deal for you, I will go into that email and I'll be like, oh, a 48 -pack of these things that I have, three other 48 -packs that I have not opened yet. Just in case I need, like, 200, your organizer. It is. $16. How can you say no to that? How can
you? Yeah, and then they're like, sometimes they come in that matte black that I'm obsessed with. Right. And I'm just like, well, all right. Well, I have to get them. You never know when they're going to go away. But here's the sick thing. Some of them have, like, on the corners, different, like... I don't know how to, like, different, like, cutouts. So, like, some of them have, like, two on the outside of the corner, or some of them have, like, one that's just on the corner.
You know what I'm talking about? Like, to, like, stop this. So you can, like, separate them. Yeah. I have found that I can only have the ones with the two on the outside of the corners rather than the one in the middle because I hate the way it looks. And so I have started to go through. This is so sick. But, like, hypothetically, you would never see how it looks because it's inside a drawer. Anyway, go on. Yeah, so that's my sick obsession. Yeah, I think that's a beautiful obsession
to have, being organized. I need to be more organized. Yeah, talk about what you want to talk about. So, okay, my TikTok feed, because I Googled this when I was at the gas station getting my Alani. Alana New, please sponsor us. My TikTok feed will show me things that's like, this news was from 12 hours ago, and it's a month old. Like, this is a thing that's happening right now. But regardless, a month ago, this shouldn't have been news. They found new information about the
Titanic. Okay. And I'm just going to ask this. And I ask this to the world. I ask this to our 12 listeners. I ask this to anyone that will listen. Did we not already know? Like, what questions do you possibly have about the Titanic? We all saw the movie. I didn't. Why? I just never did. I don't know that you have. I love you so much. I don't know that you have the attention span for that movie. It's like three and a half hours long. It's very long. And that's not a conversation
I'm willing to participate in. Yeah. But do you know, okay, this is a little bit of a side quest we're going to go on that's so sick. So, you know I love a cruise more than anything. I love a cruise vacation. Yes. Okay. Pause. Because I had something I wanted to say. I was watching... John Mulaney's live show on Netflix. Hi, John Mulaney. I love you so much. They had one episode where their through line was about cruises. And they had a cruise expert there. And she... Please
watch it if you haven't and watch her. She gets so defensive about the Titanic. Oh. She's like... First of all, it wasn't a cruise. It was a liner because its purpose was not enjoyment. It was to take you from point A to point B. Yes. Which makes it a liner and not a cruise ship. I don't give a fuck. She was like, you're not going to sink on a cruise ship. Very much like you won't have a Titanic situation on a cruise ship. I
loved it. Anyway, go on, go on, go on. It's funny that you mention this because it's Carnival Cruise Line specifically that I found will do this because none of the other ones will tempt fate like this. But I very vividly remember my very first cruise was the Carnival Cruise Line cruise. It was me and my friend Anthony. And it was three days
straight of just. having a time day three rolls around we're at breakfast and there were these like straight bros that like I had fallen deeply in love with and Celine Dion my heart will go on comes on over like the buffet thing and I look up and he is one of the bros at the other table and we were we were like 22 or 23 at the time one of the bros at the other table goes come here come here and like Looks me dead in the face. Like, he says, here, stand right here.
And then he, like, lets me have my fantasy of, like, holding me up behind the thing while it's, like, in this, like, big panorama window and I was, like, living my life. That's so beautiful. But I think back on that because, like, they played Celine Dion, My Heart Will Go On, and what was the other one? There was another Celine Dion song. There were two Celine Dion. I don't remember. But there were two of those songs that they just kept playing. You'd think those would
be 86'd from the playlist. Oh, no, I loved it. For comfort's sake. Oh, I loved it, because I was like, there's no way. I thought it was, like, courtesy to not talk about the Titanic when you're on a cruise ship. Oh, yeah, it's the same thing. You're not supposed to talk about, like, a plane going down. You're not supposed to talk about a ship sinking. You're also not allowed to call it a boat, apparently. That's, like, a thing. Oh, I've been calling it a boat. My bad. How
are you supposed to know? Okay, but yeah, continue. Yeah. Okay, so, yeah. The Titanic. Mm -hmm. They, I think it was the BBC sent down a, are you looking this up? Yes, I'm reading it. Oh my God. They sent down like 3D cameras or whatever to like image the ship. Yeah. And I thought we already knew. I was pretty sure we already knew everything there was to know about it, but apparently we know more. And what this found was that, like,
it... What I'm reading says, like, we thought it was split in half, but it was more like it was violently torn apart. Right. Because what happened was, the reason it was the unsinkable ship, from my understanding, was the way it was built. And the way it was built was actually the reason it was violently torn apart. So, like, you had these, like... The segments of the ship that were keeping it afloat had a part over the
top that wasn't closed off. So it was just like, as it got heavier, that's what ripped it apart, I guess. Here, I don't claim to be a Titanic expert. John Mulaney's person that was on his show, come on if you want to explain it to us. But the problem that I have is like, okay, we sent down these things. It's been... Literally 100 years, right? It was 1920 -something when the Titanic went down. Yeah, let me look. Why are we still finding out new things about the
Titanic? Well, I just, the boat has been down there for so long, like, you'd think the first time we went to look at it, you would be like, oh, that's not split in half. That's violently torn apart. You would think. And then we, so James Cameron, I think, was the only successful. Yeah, successful expedition down there. Right? I think he was the only one. Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought people had been looking at it. But I guess those billionaires
tried to do it and they blew up, so. The Titan? No, ma 'am. I'll stay silent on that one. I already bashed billionaires in episode one. Yeah, it was 1912. Oh. We know everything we need to know. Like, the Smithsonian came out with an article about this. Like, does it really change anything at this point? Do we not? The Smithsonian and the BBC? Is it that serious? No. Can't be. It's not. It can't be. What else is going on in the world? Do you have any opinions about anything
in the world right now? I have lots of opinions over lots of things, just not specifically. Okay. Let's see. Let's see. What have I been worried about? Oh! I haven't finished the second season yet, but once I have, and once you have, we must chat about the secret lives of Mormon wives. Oh, absolutely. We must. I have so many opinions and so many things I can't even say on the podcast, but we have to talk about it. A segment I want to work into the show is where Emma and I shotgun
an entire season of... Some show. I don't care what it is. Any show. And then just unpack it. Yeah. And I hope that you guys will be along for that ride because if there's one thing I love, it is reality TV. I love reality TV. I get the people that hate it. Like a lot of people in my life just don't like reality TV. I get that. It's below them. Yeah. And you know what? I guess I'm a little shrimp in the ocean. I'm
a little bottom feeder. I love, love. If anything, it's more escapism to me than any other type of television. Because I'm like, look how fucked up these people's lives are. It could be so much worse for me. It's aspirational for me. I watch Real Housewives and I'm like, one day. I could be on this show. One day, I'll be like Meredith Marks. Oh my god, I would die to have a country jewelry line and be on TV and live the country. To have a store that's open. I could be wrong,
Meredith Marks. If I'm wrong, please correct me. To have a store that's open three months out of the year only for like... Sundance. Only for Sundance, yeah. That's beautiful to me. Her online site is active. It is. And I want nothing more than to be like Meredith Marks. Honestly, the first step for me is just affording Meredith Marks. I wish I could afford Meredith Marks. I wish I could afford to be Meredith Marks. And do you know what's so sick? She is so beautiful.
And I don't... I don't know that she's had a ton of work done or any work done. I think she's had some work done, because she looks different, like, over the years. I think maybe, like, lip filler and stuff, maybe, but, like, god damn,
she looks good. She's so pretty, and I don't think people, like... acknowledge it to the extent that they should she is so stunning that but also the thing about her is is I think she had a really really good foundation to start with like you started with someone beautiful and you only enhanced it yeah she's naturally beautiful and I think any work that she's have had done has been extremely tasteful into the point where I remember her out on the beach in that scene
where at the end of season four where they find out, like, what Monica's doing. And there's the wind and the scarf. And she's just doing wind work. And, like, in that moment, I was like, oh, she is serving cons. In her element. Do you want to complain? Yes, I do want to complain. Do you want to start? I think you should start because I think I have a good segue to things we don't understand. Beautiful. I want to complain about people that have zero spatial awareness.
So this is a thing, I think, in the Midwest that bleeds into other places. It's when people from the Midwest go to other places. So I think back to being in New York and you would have families. basically locked arm in arm, like, taking up a whole sidewalk, and all you want to do is go past them, and then they will just stop in the middle of the sidewalk to look up and be like, it's the Empire State Building. And I was like, no, that's the Chrysler Building. Yeah, right.
Because they don't know. And it was always a tourist. It was never someone from New York. Well, they say that's how you know someone's a tourist, like, in any big city, is they're looking up instead of looking... Like it's straight ahead. Yeah, because they're like enamored by the buildings. Anyway. But today alone, I've experienced it twice where I pull up to the gas station. I park at a pump to pump gas. This woman has decided, no, one gas pump is not enough for
me. I must pull up so far that the person at the gas pump in front of me cannot pull into that spot. Oh. separate complaint people who pull up to a gas station right and it's a lane of pumps and you don't drive to the front pump what is wrong with you what is wrong with you now you're making someone parallel park to pump gas anyway that's a fair point yeah so then i said okay that's fine i'll just get gas later not a huge deal whatever you're so mean then
i walk into The get -go. I open the door. It is these two women, middle -aged, whatever. Live your life. I want you to live your life walking in such a way that you can't walk past them because of the narrowness of, like, the entrance and, like, they have, like, the stanchion set up so you can't, like, go around. And then they just stop. And then I said, excuse me, and they didn't hear me. And then I said, Jesus Christ! And then the woman turns around and she acts like I had
been the one with the problem. And I said, okay, that's fine. And so my issue is people with zero spatial awareness because it's rude. I think there are even more examples than people being in your way. Social distancing did something for me that was so beautiful because now we're back to when you're in line at the gas station and the person behind you is a foot and a half behind you and they're breathing on your neck. It makes me want to pull out my pepper spray.
You know what I do? You can't do this because you don't have hair. I flip my hair. Oh, I love that. Because if my hair hits you, you are too fucking close to me. And I think the other thing is, and I've experienced this just really several times in the last couple of months where people are very, very comfortable. If they're trying to tell you something, just getting very close to you, like chest to chest, like trying to explain
something to you. And I have a fun little thing where my fight or flight will kick in and I'm like, you better back the fuck. My nervous system does not know the difference between you not understanding personal space and me being attacked. Yes. I do not know the difference. And I'll tell you, Jack has no sense of personal space. Like, even for strangers. We were at Verizon this weekend, and he loves phones. Loves phones. Not just, like, to play games on them. Yeah. Not just...
Not... Not to play games, not just to take pictures, not to look at YouTube. He loves the technology of a phone. He does. Right? And so the guy is on his little iPad helping us, doing his thing, doing his job. And he was a sweet angel, really a nice guy. I wish I would have gotten his name. I would shout him out. He was really so nice. Jack was like head on his shoulder watching him work. And I had to be like, dude. Not everyone likes to be touched. And you're being so kind
and you're being so sweet. But part of that is giving people personal space. And I have to teach him now because I will not have him being one of those people. Like, what if he grows up to be, you know, those teachers that would get too close to you? I don't want him to be that. I don't like that. I don't want him to turn into a teacher who doesn't understand personal space or like a... Who else is really bad about it professionally? Flight attendants who don't understand
personal space. For some reason, it doesn't bother me with flight attendants because in my mind, that's different from a teacher. I don't know why. Well, there's something weird about teachers. It bothers me with flight attendants only because I know that you know because you're here every day that it's tight in here. So why are you two inches from my face? Why are you doing that? A fun fact about Jack. We were at a Halloween
party. And my stepmom had a phone that Jack has never seen because Jack has only ever interacted with people that live within the Apple ecosystem. And my mom loves, or my stepmom loves a green text. It's some kind of Samsung or something. Galaxy something, I don't know. He loves it so much. Jack has a Samsung A24. I don't know what that means. Me neither, but my stepdad gave it to him one day, and I was like, oh, perfect, thank you. Thanks, Jimmy Tate. Yeah, Jimmy Tate.
And then Jack sees this phone and says, can I play with your phone? And my stepmom says, sure, whatever. He rode the wheels off of that thing. That's how he does it. If you give him an inch, he will take a mile. And you know what? That's not something I'm trying to beat out of him because I think it's a good trait to have in life because I think I have been stifled by being too timid, not wanting to do too much or take advantage of anyone. No, not at all. Or even appear that
I'm taking advantage of anyone. Jack's not like that. No, Jack said, tell my mom to put this on my Christmas list. Yeah. Oh my gosh, parents, I have a great idea. Jack's birthday is in August. And so the day Christmas is over, the Christmas list is scrapped, right? But he still finds things every day that he wants. We've started a birthday list. And the birthday list will go for all eight months before his birthday. And then anything he doesn't get on his birthday, we'll just put
on the Christmas list. And so we're never disappointed. We're always just anticipating. We're always happy to be there. Just thrilled. What are you complaining about? I want to complain about depression and anxiety. Okay. In the sense that... Why do they exist? Because it's like autoimmune diseases. It can't be evolutionarily beneficial for me to not be able to get out of bed. It cannot be evolutionarily beneficial for me to not be able to hear other people eat. There's no way that
that was a way for me to survive. There's no way that that like gave me a leg up on the competition while we were adapting and evolving. I just don't understand it. And also it's your own brain, but you can't really rewire it. Like you can't make it do what you want it to do. Very short complaint because I can't get into it because you want to know something I don't understand? What? The human brain. No. I don't understand
it. I understand what I have been taught. I can pass a test in a science class about neurons and synapses. I couldn't. And the like, well, like, if I take the course. Oh, okay, yeah. I'm losing it immediately after. Right. That's just one of those things where I don't want to know how my brain works. I understand it. And I'm just like, how do we have so many issues? How do we have a personality? I don't understand any of it. I don't understand it. I don't either.
We should get a neurologist. Or like a brain surgeon. I would love that. I would love to talk to a brain surgeon about brains because I don't understand. The human brain. Why are we so different from all other animals? Yeah. What's wrong with their brains or what's wrong with our brains? Because it feels like our brains are the issue. You ever seen a depressed monkey? No. No. They're just out there eating bananas. It feels like our brain has brained too close to the sun and
now we're having too many issues. I think you're right. Yeah. She's probably dumber. Something that we don't understand. Brains. Brains. Brains, the human brain. Speaking of which, right, I got an ultrasound when I went to the OBGYN, as they do. And it's early, right, so the baby looks creepy, like weird, like two blobs, a big old head and a big old body. And you can see the brain in there. I don't want anything to do with that. Yeah. I rebuke that. I'm sorry. What is
it thinking about? Do they think? That's another question. And what is thinking? A good question. What is thinking? Follow -up question. You did tell me a little bit about how you watched a TikTok of babies that, like, remember being in the womb. Yes! How do they know? I don't know. Like, do they remember being born? Do they? I don't know. Because some of it, like, you just, you have to imagine is like, like, oh, it was
like just being inside of a waterbed. Yeah. I think most of them are like, yeah, it was just warm and dark. But like, I think a lot of that is assumption. And my idea of it only comes from the Spice Girls movie when. They're like, yeah, it must be really great to be living inside of a waterbed. That is a direct quote from the Spice Girls movie. That's just what I assume. It's like, I don't remember it. I would imagine it's something like a sensory deprivation tank. You
know those things? Yes, and I love those things. Have you ever been in one? No, my issues with silence, I fear. Oh, you get rid of all of it in there, I'm telling you right now. It's like a good hour -long reset. Maybe I should do one. Did I ever tell you about the one downtown where it was, like, this place called A Place to Float, and, like, they just stopped paying their bills. They stopped paying their employees. And, like, the place was so fucking nice. I mean, like,
you walk in, and it's, like, a spa. It was gorgeous. It smelled so nice. And then one day, because, like, I had bought one of our friends a gift card. And she was like, oh, I don't really love the idea of that. And I said, okay, gorgeous. I'll use the gift card. Yeah, give it to me. And so I proceed to go to a place to float. And they just have a sign on the door that says, sorry, we're closed permanently. And I was like,
okay. Oh. Yeah. Uh -oh. Yeah. You know where I've been wanting to go and I can't go now until after the baby's here? Have you seen Perspire? It's... I saw it for the first time in Florida, but now there's one at Clay Terrace that it's just saunas. It's like individual sauna rooms, and you just go sit in a sauna without having to go to the gym. Oh, they had that at the place where I used to get the IV drips. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, I love the idea of that, and I think
I should partake. It's also right next to this place called Spanga. I don't really know what's happening with that. Oh, I know what that place is. It's a strength training and spin class. It's like Orange Theory, but they focus more on the cardio, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. One of my family friends said she goes there, and she's all of a sudden ripped. She's always been skinny and beautiful and gorgeous, but now she's like... Ripped. Oh. Which is insane. Anyway.
What else? What else is going on? I don't know. What else do we want to talk about? Well, we're almost at time. Yeah. I feel like there was something we said we were going to talk about. The old wives, tales of knowing. Yeah. Yeah. I can talk about that if you want. If you want, do it. So they have this new blood test now that you can take super early in your pregnancy. Like, I've already had my blood drawn for it. And it tells you the gender of your baby, amongst other things,
obviously. But in the meantime, I've been convinced that it's a girl because there are things in this pregnancy that are different than my first. Like, I'm super nauseous and I wasn't with Jack. My hair is super curly. And anyway, so I want to talk about all the old wives tales about, like, what the sex of your baby is. Because it used to be you had to wait until the baby was born to find out. Like, my dad is a twin, identical twin. And they told my grandma she was having
one girl. And she came home with two boys. And I think the reason is, one, I think it's a wives' tale, but doctors kind of feed into it, too. They say if the heartbeat is really fast, it's a girl. And if it's on the lower end, it's a boy. So I'm wondering if they heard two heartbeats. They heard two heartbeats, and they thought it was really fast. Yeah. Yeah. So that's one of them. There's the ring one. The ring one is the
most popular one I've heard of. Yeah, you put a ring on a string and you dangle it over your belly. And if it goes in a circle, I think it's a boy. And if it goes straight back and forth, it's a girl. Have you done it? Those might be opposite. I have not done it because it feels like I'm hexing my baby. Anyway. They say that if you're craving something sweet, it's a girl, and if you're craving salty savory, it's a boy. Well, I must always be pregnant with a boy. Constantly,
every day. Yeah, every single day. And what are the other really common ones I've heard? Your hair is dry, it's a girl. Your hair is dry, it's a girl. Oh, oh. Here's one that I believe is rooted in misogyny. They say if you're super emotional, it's a girl. Oh, Jesus Christ. Cannot be true. Just please. I... They do say, like, girls... The dry hair thing made me think of this. They say that girls, like... take all your
beauty away. Like they're the ones who make you have the really big pregnancy noses and your nails and your hair is breaking and all of that stuff. I hate everything about that. I think it's all kind of misogynistic if I'm being honest. They also say that girls give you acne. The long and short of it is we hate women. That's what the message is. Some of the weirder ones are like If you're having a boy, they make your feet cold. What? Yeah, like you need to wear socks
all the time because your feet are cold. Then it's a boy. What's another one that's kind of weird? Oh, pregnancy brain. They say if you're forgetting stuff a lot, then it's a boy, which is also kind of just sexist. I think that's just what we think of men is that they forget stuff all the time. It's okay. You can forget things. I don't know. They're all kind of weird. I don't think any of them really work. I do think that heartburn is indicative of you having a baby
with a full head of hair, though. Because that happened to me the first time. I had a wicked heartburn, and then Jack was born with a full head of hair. Really? Mm -hmm. And not like some babies lose their hair. Like they're born with hair, and then they lose it, and it grows back. He never lost his hair. Really? Mm -hmm. Yeah. And I think that's why my heartburn was so bad. I'm convinced. You're probably right. I believe that. Well, friends, that brings us to the end
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