Ep. 65: Uncle Wimpy and the Bathtub Walleyes

you're right, I mean they kind of sucked. Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome to Ben the Fishing podcast that goes directly to the closest drive through Dakari shack after picking up its rental car at the New Orleans Airport. I'm Joe Surmeli and joining me today is my good friend from the land of drive through Dachori Shacks, Jared Serenier. What's going on? Brother? Alright, bro, I'm happy to be here. But lo wait, we're not drinking dacriies. I'm gonna have

I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna have the bear eyes damn for when you get here. Waa that's what No dacories? I yeah, and that's probably a lot cheaper to those dacies are are pretty spendy. H allegedly right, allegedly, Jared has not been on this show before, though your voice does bear a striking resemblance to down the Road Darren from South Louisiana who occasionally does uh fishing reports for us from your region. You hip to that guy? You ever met that guy? Yeah? Man, I crossed paths with

Darren every once in a while. Dude, it's like, I'll be like pumping, you know, trying to get pumping gas in my truck, and Darren comes up to me like he rocking about a few dollars. You know, Man, you sound just like him. That's a really good Yeah. He's a good dude. He's just you know, made a few questionable choices in his life. But right on, right on, well it is. It is awesome to have you here, man, and I you know how much I love the South

and Louisiana in particular. It's been it's been just way too long since I've been down there. But in case any of you listeners haven't been down there, I wasn't kidding about the Dacari shacks. I'm not. I'm not claiming South Louisiana is the only place that has them, but it's the only place I've been too. There's there's practically one on on any given corner. And these are drive through establishments that will serve you an extra large, big gulp size cup of icy slushy booze in your vehicle.

And is there a reason why that's allowed? There? I know legally, right, you're not supposed to drink them while you're driving, at least the driver isn't. But if that existed where I leave, cops would be parked outside just waiting for you to take a pull of that mud slide dachri, Like, how does that? How is that allowed? What's the rule? And look, it's not just dacries. You could order a mixed ra al right. Here is the technicality that makes it work. It's the straw, the straw.

So if the paper from the straw is not broken, technically you're good. Shoot. Once the straw goes in and it's like all right now I'm ready to drink, that's

when the cop could be like, got you. But as long as the straw is not learned something today we learn how to get away with this and what the rules are, that's great, man, But Anyway, So Jared and I we go way back, and I want to tell a story about when we first met because it's sort of gonna play into a little theme I've got going on today about fishing with people that don't appreciate good fishing. But before we get to that, I want to tell everyone, well,

you've got going on right. So you're a producer, videographer, a man of many media talents that does work for a lot of people. You've even rubbed elbows if I'm not mistaken with old caw Ryan Callahan. Isn't that right? You guys did something together. Yeah. Ryan came down last year, last September, the end of September. Um. He we we were introduced to each other through a mutual friend Land, Tawny and Montage. Sure, and I think that Ryan knew

that Land had spent a good bit of time down here. Uh, and Land and I were buddies from from when he did spend time down here. So he's like, hey, man, I'm gonna Louisiana, who don't need to talk to you. And he was like so and so so and so and called Serena and uh he called me up and I was like, man, I really appreciate because I felt like up to that point, media kind of was overlooking the South. Sure, yeah, and I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but I felt like, kind of I really

appreciated it. When he called, I was like, dude, appreciate it. Um. He was like, you know, let's go on a teal hunt public land at Venice. I'm like, okay, start putting the pieces of place for that. But the problem you have to have you know, we were gonna hunt on a federal refuge, so you have to have that signed off by the refuge manager. And it was just it was becoming a lot of headache to get all the paperwork done on that. So I was like, dude, let's

just go. Let's go on the holl Count. Like, you know what, the tides were high from all the tropical stores were having. When the tides are high, the feral halls all kind of bunch up in one higher area. So so let's go on holl Count. We did, had a great hunt, good time, made some bood in, and I got to see how hard those guys work. He came down with Tye and Garrett, the videographers, and those

dudes work man like they even send up to sundown. Well, it's funny you bring up that you guys did did a hog hunt because you also have your your own channel and brand now called Outside the Levies that focuses on all kinds of outdoor pursuits and cooking in your region, and and you hunt and fish of course, but I also noticed like you highlight um like local salt of the Earth commercial fishing, crabbing operations. So you're like, you really strive to capture the entirety of the outdoors in

your region. Yeah. So I started that channel a year ago actually, kind of right after we hunted with Ryan, I know, you know, that was kind of the catalyst. So I'm like, all right, it's time to it's time to jump onto YouTube train. I know, like, yeah, I'm a little late to it. But also there's still plenty it's still growing, you know what I mean, Like, it

still has plenty of time. So uh, I started the channel and I was like, look, you know, I have this resource all around me, the outdoors that we have, but also the culture that we have, and that's something you don't quite get in other places where the culture is so tied to it. So I felt like that was my asset that I was bringing too the YouTube table. Yeah, and and what I can tell you listening is that, like what Jared's not doing, it's not like your your

standard YouTuber deal. Like you're you're a professional. You know how to find a good story, shoot it and at it with style and flow, um and and how to how to talk to interesting people. And you know, in my opinion, like in the world of of go pros, strapped heads all the time, it's really refreshing. Man, you're making really cool stuff. I appreciate that. I mean, I'm not you know, I consider the go pro head guys and myself all in the same We're in the same

same deal, you know, like where the YouTube community. So I'm not saying one's better than the other. But at the same time, I had to I had to create the videos saying it that's all good, but no, I had to create the kind of videos that I want to watch, right using you know, the way I used to produce outdoor television and then kind of mixing in the YouTube style. We do do some go pro stuff. We do, you know, have some music in there and

stuff like that. So it's it's been awesome, right, right, Well, it's great stuff, and so I gotta I want to tell this story. Um. So, the first time we ever met, you were actually a hired gun. You were a videographer working for the National Wildlife Federation, and I was in

town for a work off site meeting. And the fishing for the first few days of this trip had been very, very slow, and uh, because it was a work off site meeting, as it tends to go, the bosses made the boat pairings right, and they tried to stick like less outdoorsy people with legit outdoorsy people. And on the third day, you and me, uh and one of these less outdoorsy people who were not gonna we're not gonna drag anybody's name through the mud, right, doesn't really matter.

But we all ended up on a boat together. And the fishing, as I recall, was equally slow for most of that day until about four forty five pm, right, and then the floodgates just open, and all of a sudden there were red fish chowing everywhere, just crushing top water. You remember this, Yes, I do, I do, Okay, okay, good,

I'm glad I remember. Well, it's funny because it's funny you say that not too long ago, I'll still have the raw footage and I don't think so we'll have to get we'll have to separately get together and look at Yes, I'd love to see it right so, because I and I remember you being pumped because after all these days of chasing people around cameras, like you finally had something to shoot, like there was action, there was

something going on um. But all the boats were told to be back at the lodge by like five fifteen or something for a power point presentation. Ironically, now that you mentioned it, that I've leave was being given by land Tawny. I believe he was on this ship. It was his power point. And the kid they stuck us with was losing his ship, like he was just like guys that they said to be back at five fifteen and and and and for a while, you, me and the guy just completely ignored this kid, like I wasn't

paying attention to any of it. I'm almost positive the god that for that was Ross Montet and it was Yes, Ross is a killer like the fit walks, crawl, swims, flies, it's in danger from Ross. So probably he had all that pent up aggression I was getting. I was like, dude, I know the power point was important, but we'll get there. We'll get their bridge version afterwards over because yeah, these reds are the challenge everywhere. And he's not even casting

because he's so distraught over missing a power point. And eventually I couldn't take it anymore and was just like, dude, shut the up and fish, like, we're not leaving this to go watch any power were point, Like this is what we've been waiting for all week. And and I was wondering what you already confirmed you you had this exchange on video. It did not make the final cut of what you were putting together for n WF, but I was pretty sure you were rolling. I would love

to see that. Okay, I'm gonna check the row. I got it well, I confirmed it the other day. It well unearth it. But in the meantime, tying right in um with being presented with stellar fishing and and sort of not even recognizing it. We've got one hell of a smooth Move segment for you guys this week. Remember, Smooth Moves is where we let guides and captain's vent

about idiotic things their clients have done. Uh, And we're leaving the bayou just for just for a little bit and jogging west to San Diego to meet back up with our old buddy, Captain Conway Bowman. Why joining us again from southern California, My buddy, Conway Bowman? How goes it? Man? Good to see you again. What's up? Brother? How are you? I'm great? I'm great. So you are a pioneer fly fishing for macOS on the West coast. But you have guided for so many things in so many places. What

are the other things you guided for? Oh? Man, um, trout, cart, bass, a large amount bass um. I've done a little bit of steelhead guiding, more more hosting. But because I've done it, I've hosted trips to steelhead waters, permit, tarpin, bone fish. Because I've traveled so much, I've gotten really familiar with a lot of different fish. So what I do is when I host trips, I end up kind of guiding

and and I love it. I love guiding. I like watching people be successful at making that cast and hooking, whether it's their first permit, bone fish, steelhead, whatever. I mean that that really gets me pumped up. So well, I'm pumped up because you've been at this for so many years, and like you just said, you've done so many different things that I'm really curious to hear, like where we're getting a smooth move from? Like what facet of what Conway Bowman does? Are we gonna we're gonna

hear a smooth move story from? Oh? So you want a story right now? I want the smoothest one you got, man. Okay. So um, when people fly fish for mako sharks, and it always comes back to makoes because there's such a dynamic fish and they jump in there, they're big. So Um. I had a group come on my boat I don't know, a couple of years ago, and none of them had had ever fly, none of them had ever fished. They had they had bid on a trip that I had

given away through some auction. So they show up three guys. That's a that's a guide thing too. You gotta be careful with. I know a lot of guys who donate trips, but then you have no control over who it is, Like they're not regular client. You have no idea who you're getting with the donated trip. Right, No, right, guys show up and they're walking down walking to my boat. I'm like, oh my god, you're kidding me. I mean members only jacket. It's kind of sweet. I mean, not

for fishing, but I appreciate the jacket. It's just just whatever. I mean. It was. You know, they had they had the classic loafers on on with the taskles. It was like, oh no. So they get on the boat. Right when they get on the boat, they say, hey, capt and get a cooler. I said, yeah, here's my cooler. And they put in some bris and they put in a bottle of shard and I'm like, ship, here we go. And so on the way out, I'm like, you guys, don't you fishing? No, not really. We just thought it'd

be cool to go see a shark. I'm like, okay, right, so we're motoring out. The one guy says, so, Capta, and you think we're going to see a shark today. I said there's a good chance. Well, how good? I guess it. You know, I don't know. I'm seeing them, you know, between eighty and you know, a hundred pounds. Yeah. He's like, well, we're gonna see a bigger one. I'm like, we might how big? I said, Well, I don't know. We might see one five. He's like, whoa really, Oh wow,

that'd be cool. I'm like, okay. So we get out there and we're drifting. So let's say I think I set my slick at ten o'clock and at two o'clock we hadn't seen anything. These guys are One guy's throwing up over the side. The other guy's kind of he'd been hitting that bottle of chardonnay, so he was kind of, you know, not really stumbling around, but he was a little bit gassed. And you know, they had the brie out, you know, putting it on French bread, and they're sitting

there and you know, they're talking. They were talking one of their bullshit. They were talking, and it was really entertaining. Yeah, And I said, hey, guys, we're getting into his zone right now, where I've been seeing a lot of big makos, a lot of big ones. Oh really, Captain, Oh god, that'd be great to see a big one. We haven't seen one all day. Like okay, you know, kind of

a wise ass. I'm like okay. And so I'm I'm standing on the on the stern of the boat and I'm looking out in the slick and I'm going, man, if any size mako shows up, these guys couldn't handle it because we had gone through the casting. These guys couldn't cast my feet. Dear Lord, please let a twenty pound mako show up and let me get back to the dog. So I'm standing there, so I look up.

The one guy's hanging over the rail throwing up. The other guy's passed out on the on the on the deck, and the other guy's just sitting there, you know, with his arms crossed, looking out. And I looked down and I went, oh my god, I see this gigantic mako come right under the boat. I mean, went from from the stern right to the porch side and and heading out towards about I'm like, holy crap. This thing was like seven pounds. I'm like, oh my god. So I go, okay,

who's who? Who's right? And we've got a big, big mako here? And the guy's like what and and he looks over the side and he didn't see it because the mako had kind of sunk out, And I like, hold on, hold on. So I've got my teaser. Run, I throw it out, through it out and throwing it and I throw it way way out and I'm reeling it up, and all of a sudden, the mako pops it behind the teaser and it starts chasing teaser in and the guy sees the phinnies like Jesus Christ, that

things huge, and so I tease the mako in. It goes under the boat again. It circles around and I lose it. I can't see it. So I look, and the one guy grabbed one of the fly rods that I that we had prepped for the moment, you know, when the one when the chart shows up. And I told him, do not put that line the water, you know, because I didn't know where the fish was. And if you have a fly dangling over the side will come up and grab it. So I said, don't put the

fly in the water. So I'm looking for the maker, looking for the makeup. There's some heavy glare in the water. I'm looking looking, and I look and the flies in the water. Because he's kind of looking over the rail, you know, looking for the fish. I'm like, get the fly out of the water. So he pulls it out and I can't. I don't know where the mako is, and so I may throw the teaser out. Nothing on the tees are my guy? The things split and I looked down and the guy is looking for it, and

once again the flies and the water floating out. I go get the fly out of the and right when I said that, this maku came up right from under the boat and grab the fly. I mean ten ft off the rail. I mean right there, a seven pound makeup. I'm like, and I told the guy don't set the and he what did he do? He set the hook. He went straight up. I'll go, oh my god, this maker shark. It looked like a like a Volkswagen Bust doing three sixties on the port side rail. I mean

ten ft a rail. Whoa. I'm like, oh my god. And the guy is like whoa, and he's holding the rod and I'm like, give me the rod. So I run up the rail, grabbed the rod and immediately the shark sounds and it pins me to the rail. Right. Yeah, it's going down down. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, and so what makeles do? They'll go down and they'll they'll jump. You don't know where they're going to jump. They can jump. Yeah, they just come up. It's going straight down I'm like, oh God, oh God. So now

it's gotta be pinned to the rail. The rod is bent back towards the stern. It's bent back towards the starboard corner. And I look back and the two other guys, that one guy that was passed out and the other guy, they ran back to the starboard corner and they're standing

right there. I'm like, oh my god. So I'm looking back at them, and all of a sudden that the maker jumps right there, right off the starboard, I mean, right off the corner, and it rockets into the air and it goes up twenty and I'm watching it in slow motion, a seven pound makeup going twenty ft in the air within five ft of these eyes. I mean, it's right off the corner. I'm like, oh my god. And it goes up up, up, up up, and I'm like, that thing's gonna lean into the boat and crush these guys.

And it goes It goes up up, up up, and it leans out. It landed out, and it took off, and I don't know how I got that thing around. It went under the outboard and I pulled it around on a hand of the rod back and the guy go just hold on. So it's running, it's jumping, and I get that guy's falling all over his ass. I'm trying to, you know, get up on the fish. And so we fight it from probably i don't know, five minutes after these incredible jumps and it broke off. I'm like,

thank god. So you know, I reel the whole thing and the makeup probably peeled off four yards of backing. He's insane. So I read all that back in and I get it back in. I look at the guy and he's sitting on the bow. He's like, holy ship, that was insane. I go, you know how saying that was? That shark could have landed in the boat and two

of your buddies could have been freaking killed. Oh so the more the moral of that story is, I've realized that, you know, you've got to have your ship in one sack when you're fishing these big makos because they will jump in the boat. So because of that, I'm very, very very specific on how I want people to cast of those things. You have to make a fort cast sure, I can't hook him close, and you have to be

super careful. There's no margin of air at all. If one of those things lands in the boat, you're freaking. And it's happened to people before. I mean, that's a that's a known thing like that. Yes it has. And I'm fishing out of a twenty four ft Triton bay boat, so my gunnal is very low to the nil. Yeah. Yeah, well dude, I mean that, dude, that's funny. That's an

epic story. But like my takeaway, it always bothers me a little to hear stories like that, because there's so many things giant tune of fly fishing for sharks with you that like I want to do that I would kill to do. And then I hear a story like that's the guy that got to go do that and have a seven hundred pound mako shark, and like, doesn't even have appreciate what just happened. It's that happens, admit,

I know it. I get people out there that they'll catch a three and a pound makeup They're like, oh, that was cool, and they just walk off the dog. Don't worry, bro, When I come out there, I'll make an eighty foot cast to a seven hundred pound makeup and we will dance yes, that would be awesome. Alright, well, first things first, man, I don't know. It kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I'm a little bothered by it.

You watch UFC, you watch UFC at all? Not I've been forced to watch it in a few lodges over the years, but like of my own accord, no, I don't watch. So there's a there's a funny clip, uh from a UFC press conference a few years back, and it's too heavy weights and I don't think they were about to fight. I think they were on the same card.

And one of the heavy weights who's who's really well accomplished, and then one of the ones who was kind of upcoming, he's from New Orleans originally, and uh, and they weren't even gonna fight on this card. So the more accomplished fighter, Daniel calling it was like, you know, and he's talking to Derrick Lewis, who was the other fight. He's like, so, what's your beef with me? What did I do? We're

not even fighting. He's like, man, you disrespected that Popeye's Chicken apparently called me ahead said something negative about Popeye's. So I kind of feel the same way. Listen to this and I'm like, man, there's a few times are out that deal where he just goes after bree cheese. I'm like, dude, I got like, yeah, with your clients, but leave debris man. Well, so, since we just heard a mako shark story, I am compelled to ask you something that I've always wanted to know. Maybe you know

the answer, maybe not. Right, So, offshore fishing is a big deal in southern Louisiana, right, You guys are all about tuna and wahoo and swordfish, but some of the biggest makos in the country live in the Gulf of Mexico, And by and large, I feel like the Louisiana off short crowd really wants nothing to do with them, and I will I will point out, but I want to say, like, I think that's a good thing for the sharks, but

I'm not about killing all these sharks. But you boys also like a stock freezer, and and mako meat is very tasty. So I never understood why mako fishing wasn't more of a thing down there. That's not entirely true. There's definitely guys who do it, but you gotta understand the economic driver for venice, which is you know, the capital of orf shore fishing is the tuna. It's known as Tuna Town. So people come here to catch tuna. That's what you know. So the captains, that's what their

trips are geared to. Now I'll can tell you this in the last ten years, it's swordfishes is a close section shore. So it's not necessarily that they don't target mako, because I've seen guys like Trey p K with Voodoo charters get some enormous makos. I just you know, I think that those other things that are more uh yeah, that's where their business is geared towards. I definitely can can say that they know and appreciate the mako fishery. It's just that their clients who pay to go with

them want to catch tuna and swords. Sure, sure, you're just not seeing those makos themselves. Probably really enjoy the mako and really appreciate it, but they gotta, you know, take the folks who are paying to catch what they want. Interesting, one of these days I should come down there, and uh, I just would love to catch a giant mako, catch and release just to say I did it. I've never caught him as big as I know you have them

down there. Anyway, now that we have the waters all chummed up here, let's see if you get slaughtered this week when Hayden Samic and I dive head first into some oily, bloody fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly. We've got a bunch to talk about today. First and foremost, Episode one of B Side Fishing Season two drops today and if any of yeah, man, if any of you are listening early in the morning, perchance, I believe it hits meat Eater's YouTube channel at eleven Mountains, so one

pm Eastern. But man, I gotta say, people, people don't understand, like how getting something like b Side out It's kind of like giving birth, you know what I mean, Like months of work and you finally see baby alive in the world. And um, episode one, I gotta say it might be like one of one of my favorite videos I've ever put together. And the topic is American shad fishing, which I've covered that in the past, but never before have I taken uh this level of deep dive into

the historical significance of the fish. And of course this all centers around a challenge to eat a whole bunch of shad proposed by our old buddy Miles Nulty. I miss Miles, I know me too. I've been granted a sneak peek at this episode, and I really thought it was one of the best videos you've ever put together. As thanks man, appreciate that. Um. I thought the bit about the significance of shad in the Revolutionary War was of particular interest. People don't realize, right, uh, And I

don't want to give it. I'm gonna give it all away. But if it wasn't for American shad, you might be British right now, like you might be eating tea and strumpets instead of KFC. Because if it hadn't been for the shad feeding Washington's army during the Revolutionary War at at exactly the right time, they would have all starved

to death and not been able to keep fighting. So, yeah, you know, I've done a lot of being from the East Coast, I did a lot of like you know, class trips to a valley forge and the first thing you think about you get to that place is like, man, it must have sucked to have had to stay here through the winter. You're saying you're saying it sucks when you're there on a class trip in the middle of the summer, Like, imagine like living there in February, and

imagine living there eating nothing but shad. Yeah, terrible gift shop, too, terrible gift shop. But but the whole point so yes, terrible. Just survive on shad. Although a theme like the this whole whole thing centers around, can we debunk that? Is shad that bad to eat? Or would you only want to eat it if you had to survive? Anyway, Hopefully you guys will check that out today. Um. In the meantime, man, I I gotta say, boy, did that sale been with

the trout jigs? Hit? Like? I have been overwhelmed by notes about that. I even got voice memos right, which which normally we reserved for the nibbles and sip segment. But here's a quickie from listener Colin Coffee. I hate to be the guy to tell you this, but you got robbed, dude. Those things are like thirty cents a piece, maybe in the tackle shop up there. And this was right. This was the overall consensus. Those jigs are nothing secret. I've been told they are sold in every single shop

around Bennett Spring State Park. People have informed me that they're are locally referred to as big hurt jigs and a million people were like, yeah, whoever sold those to you is one of a hundred dudes here that insist like he invented the wheel at Trout Parks, Like it's not uncommon. I bet you that dude also invented mom flies and what probably yeah, yeah, he takes credit for all of that. Um. And lastly, before we get on to the news here you, sir, where the target of

your first voice memo? Because last week you uh you hit that that's my bar on the Altmar Hotel in Palaska, New York. And I got this from listener Eli Creeden. Hey, Joe, I've just got a brief message for Hayden. What all to mention the Altmar Hotel and no talk of the p VJ Wings? Come on now now, Peebe and Jay Wings? How and why would you skip that? I want to know more about this. I'm on Eli side. Well, Uh, to be honest, it was kind of a killer Darling's

sort of scenario. I I had to cut something for time, and unfortunately Joe, Eli, the Peb and J Wings didn't mas to you will also might be a little disappointed to know that PEB and J Wings are not quite as like singular to Altmar Hotel as you might think.

In fact, I was. I was out there dinner with my girlfriend last night, and it should so happen that Burger Bob's on Main Street in Boson, Montana also sells p B and J wings if you google there, like, yeah, I think it's something about like the jelly sort of caramelizing in such a way that it just kind of lends itself, you know. Well, I I had never heard of it before. Um, I guess I missed that one.

But even if I saw it on a menu, unless I was sitting with somebody who was like, no, no, no, dude, you have to order that, like they're amazing, I'd never order that. I wouldn't order them. I have sat with people who have been like no, no, no, dude, these are amazing, and I still have not ordered him. Although interestingly, uh, there are a bunch of folks in Philadelphia deposit that that's what makes Lorenzo's pizza so good or in some cases so bad, is that they also apparently used grape

jelly in the sauce. Really, I'd never heard that before, and that's on South Street I've eaten years, but man, Lorenzos makes I didn't know that. Yeah, oh yeah, huge, huge slices. The only thing I've used grape jelly for which I've had people scoff at until they try it. Like if you ever have a good smoked sausage like a Polish sausage or venison, so whatever you got, you cook it down in a crock pot with fifty fifty

grape jelly to barbecue sauce. Fantastic. You're doing the little scoff thing now, Um, have you ever heard of have you ever heard of the Philly taco? No, it is a Jim's cheese steak wrapped up in a slice of Lorenzo's pizza. Oh sorry, I just had to put that in there. That's fine. If you're looking for a way to kill yourself with with a cloud artery, there you go. That's the one. Anyway that it's enough about Pepe and

j Wings. Remember this is a competition. Hayden and I do not know which story the other fella is bringing to the table at the end. Are no nonsense. Audio engineer Phil will decide who has to buy the P, B and J wings tonight. And uh, it is your lead, sir, What do you got for us? All right? So this week on Fish News, you're taking a trip to South Africa. That's an expensive plane ticket. Since Phil like saving the whales so much, maybe he'll also be into saving the sharks.

Maybe I just gotta interject and said, I've heard from a few people who are like, how did you let Hayden beat you with a whale story? It was a whale of a story, Joe Man. This one comes from News twenty four in South Africa last week. And I apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm about to mess this name up. Uh. De Vetti a South African wildlife sounded right? Sounded right? South African wildlife activists decided to

take a swim to save the sharks. Specifically, he chose to swim from a I really should have looked this up Gangs by coast too, Dire Island and back in a seven point seven kilometer loop. Now, healthy, okay, healthy dude? Now, why did choose this particular route to Dire Island? Uh? Dire Island is part of an area known as shark Alley. Basically, there are a bunch of seals that post up on

an adjacent island each winter and pup. So you got a lot of these big old white sharks just kind of cruise in the area between the two islands looking for some fun sized seal snacks. You think we can find some seal oil to dip the frills and fishing. Because of this, dire island has been known as a hot spot for great white sharks for the last like hundred years. That is, until recently. Biologists and I guess you'd call them like recreational shark observers or shark tourists.

Sure there's people to do that, just fly all over to look at sharks. Yeah, whatever, Folks have been noticing there are less sharks around the island. Now. Doty has taken it upon himself to draw attention to this problem by taking a swim through these previously shark infested waters. And you know it's a stunt, right, but it's pretty impressive.

The dude really put his money where his mouth is. Like, you think this isn't a problem, I'm going to show you exactly how confident I am that the shark population is messed up around here. Yeah, and I appreciate what guys doing, but I mean, you said it, dude, it's a stunt. I mean there's also an element of of of luck there. Um, you know, I'm sure die Are Island.

That's where they film a ton of the Shark Week stuff, like the seals, you know behind the boat where they're they're pulling the fake seal and like it's just kind of it's kind of like fishing, right. What you don't see is is how many hours or days they spent doing that and not getting any sharks to blow up on it. So it's yeah, it's a exactly So it's

it's it's a little stunty, but that's it's okay. Yeah, And to be fair, it is like kind of like the the pinnacle moment of a documentary that the guys putting together, the ultimate goal of which is to ban shark nets, which are currently in place off the coast of many South African beaches. For those who don't know, a shark net is like less of a benign barrier and more of a giant ass gill net that not only kills a ship ton of sharks but also a

bunch of other marine life as a result of by catch. Um, I would guess that you could probably find some really good fishing right around them. Though. Oh I'm sure, man, I'm sure. I'm sure. Sure those nets are as good as a floating whale carcass offshore, you know what I'm saying. I'm sure everything comes in looking for the strugglers in there. So anyway, uh de toy. I like the inflection on you.

You really it's very French, but that doesn't really make sense in South Africa, UHI has taken the lack of sharks around Dier Island as evidence that there has been a massive population crash, mostly at the hands of man i e. The gill nets. And while it's true that the rate which we've been killing sharks borders on like extermination and the population is certainly in decline, that might

not be what's going on in this specific instance. Right a shark biologist for Dire Island Conservation Trust, Allison Towner, I use somebody who's deeply familiar with this population of white sharks thinks it's something else. In an interview given to the same media source from which I lifted like this entire story, she suggests that it's actually orca presence causing the sharks to abandon the area. Oh interesting, Okay,

that's a twist. I like it. Plot twist. Uh. One might think that it's the orcas out competing the sharks for delicious delicious seal babies, forcing the sharks into waters with less competition for food, but she doesn't think that that's the case. Rather, the sharks appear to be leaving to avoid becoming prey themselves. Since twenty seventeen, orcas have been actively attacking white sharks around Dyer Island, caused them

to temporarily vacate the area before eventually returning. As more and more orch attacks have been occurring, the sharks have been staying away for longer and longer. That said, the sharks have always returned, and in fact, throughout May and June of this past year, Towner herself tagged eight white

sharks and observed a bunch more. That is, until an orca attack caused the white sharks to vacate the area yet again, and as of recently, the sharks have not been observed in the area since that attack on white sharks. White sharks on that's the ultimate predator. That's like every kid's like hero fish. I'm very upset to hear that that marine mammals are pushing out white marine mammals suck, dude, workers are just bigger dolphins. And we all know you

hate dolphins. I do. I hate it anyway, Your hatred of dolphins is neither here nor there. The fact is the dude kind of the dude made his point in a big way. To be clear, he's like also not calling for folks to like just completely vacate the beaches and let the sharks have their way. Rather, he's suggesting a more shark friendly approach to I guess being unfriendly to sharks and deterring them. Okay, Detroit points out that our fear of sharks is I'm switching it up, man,

deal with it. That's fine. Our fear of sharks is basically irrational in the first place. He notes that last year, uh ten people out of a population of like eight billion were killed by a variety of sharks species, and during the same period of time two forty people drowned. He comes to the conclusion that we should be thousand more times afraid of water than sharks. And I didn't check that math. So if it's wrong, don't DM me.

I think you missed a zero, and I would d m M please d M them I back at you. I deserve it, So I sort of follow him on that. In general, I do think that we've demonized sharks like far beyond their actual immediate threat to us. But what

are you saying? He is super reductive and assumes that everybody has an equivalent amount of interaction with the water or sharks, like to contextualize out a little bit as a dude who spends a lot of time poking around for critters and grizz country, like, my chances of a bear attack are astronomically higher than my grandmother's or yours over New Jersey. Yeah, she's just at the Dollar General. She's not in grizz Country at all. She does love

the Dollar General. Man. Still Grandmas do Dollar General and casinos at these beef jerkeys from the Dollar General like they expired eight years ago. Graham Still, Uh, we may have overreacted a little, um And there are a bunch of alternative is to essentially gill netting Great Whites in

response to their perceived threat. One such alternative is having shark spotters and if you've ever seen Jaws too, that's where pilots and observers, you know, patrol beaches looking for sharks and calling down a threat should one be spotted. This has been employed on the west coast of South Africa and has proven to be really effective. Um. Another option are drum lines. The thug little one of the drummer boy. I'm going to just assume that was a clip from the film drum Line, and you have not

seen Days of Thunder. I have never seen drum lines, so I guess now we're even You mean Nick Cannon's seminal work. Uh, yeah, that great dramatic actor. Drum Lines rely on bated hooks attached to booye's to catch sharks. Uh. They still have bycatch or whatever, but not nearly to

the extent scene with shark nets. And recently, around two thousand fifteen, smart drum lines have been developed send a signal to rangers on shore when they've caught something, theoretically allowing those rangers to go out and free to buy, catch, or even relocate sharks. Interesting Okay. This has been tested

on the island of Reunion in the Indian Ocean. Where fifteen of these smart drum lines have been deployed, and they found that on average, a fisherman can reach a smart line within an hour and a half of an alert, and around of animals captured end up surviving the ordeal, which is a much better than the survivability gill nets. Absolutely,

I gotta say, man, that's that's very cool technology. And I mean, I have to imagine even during um or at least I guess during the high season, for when when swimmers and sharks are coinciding on these beaches, that's got to be somebody's full time gig. And that would be a great full time gig. Like you just sit around and play mind Sweeper two. Your phone pings, it's like, uh, I gotta go out and free a great white, like just hang out and then go run out there and

play around with with the sharks. I think that would be cool as hell. Um My only other thought, just because I'm kind of a sicko like that, I just I imagine in my head like during dude swim, like as he's swimming, like he's the middle of the way through it and he's just like, see there's no sharks out here, and an orchid just comes up and takes him like just full orca breach in the mouth, and I'd be like, well, how ironic was that the toy did not look out for the orcas? No, exactly, Um,

it's pretty funny. Actually, in the trailer for this documentary that he's putting together, there's one moment where like a seal pops up next to him and clearly scares the ship out of the guy. That was wrong you talking about sharks spotters? You know, like he made the chopper do three extra loops before you go in. Like, are you sure, Mike that there are no sharks out there right now? You know what I mean? Better home? Mike likes him, all right, Well, you did a story about

a giant fish here, Um, not the biggest whale. Sharks are bigger, but great whites are cooler. I too have a story about a giant fish, and I can barely believe this is happening. But I have to do a record story two weeks in a row because buying that, because a bunch of listeners forwarded this to me, and I feel it's my duty to report on this one. Because everyone loves Walleye, right, and everyone except me, But I recognize and appreciate their significance in the fishing community.

And I must say this one warms my heart because, uh, if like Ross Robertson caught a new state record walleye, I'd be like, of course he did, right, Like he's a he's a Walleye machine, he has all the latest and greatest gear, he's super dialed. But the victor in this story is like the polar opposite of a guy like Ross Robertson, which makes the story great. This is coming from go eerie dot com headline state record Walleye possible after Connell's Ville man catches huge fish. Who is

that man? Well, it's Richard the Breeze Nicholson. So the nickname is the Breeze and he looks kind of like

the dude, right like Lebowski. But how big was the breeze as walleye thirty four inches eighteen point one pounds caught in Pennsylvania's Yakaganey River on October and if it's certified as a state record, it will beat out the seventeen pound nine out state record that was caught in the Allegheny Reservoir and has stood since nine so that one's been around man like p A hasn't seen a record walleye in what's that like forty one year, So I'm like that, I'm kind of shocked that this record

isn't coming out of Lake Erie. Yeah exactly, because you're absolutely right Erie. P A is right on the lake there, you would think. But now, man, Yakagany River, which I've never fished, but I've heard it's a great sleeper brown trout river. Like people you fish the yak. I'm like, don't talk about the yak while we're talking about it now. But anyway, Um, so was the breeze running around on the yach with a jetboat equipped with side scan and

down scan and all the other pro wally accouterments. Not even close, As the breeze says himself very succinctly in a quote from the story, I'm a live baitman, Yes, yes, So the bait that took the beast was a live creak chub, which the breeze trapped himself right. He only fishes from the bank, and that evening he had already landed an eighteen inch sauger and a twenty seven in nine and a half pound Wally. Okay, the eighteen pounder, Yeah, I mean, dude, nine and a half from short that's amazing.

I love this guy. I dude, I love them too. Uh. You're gonna love more and more as we go on. The eighteen pounder sucked up that creek chubb around seven pm. Okay, and according to the breeze, he fought the fish for twenty to twenty five minutes. Now, let's hold let's compose ourselves. Let's hold the phone. Okay. I will discuss the tackle

he was using in a minute. But I'm telling you right now, even though his awesome choice of tackle would make any fight a little more sporty, there isn't a walleye on this planet that's got twenty to twenty five minutes of fighting it. Yeah, okay, here's here's some context to put it in perspective. That would be like if I hooked a walleye the second I pulled out of my driveway, I wouldn't get it in the net until I reached Center City, Philadelphia. Okay, that's about a twenty

five minute drive with no traffic. And that's impossible. And I'm gonna say that that that that's a gross exaggeration after the fact, Breeze. I'm sorry, but I'm pinging you there. Okay, even if you if you were spoiled with a strand of human hair, it wouldn't take twenty five minutes to land an eighteen pound walleye. So two things. One, are you saying that it's impossible that you would get to

the Philadelphia Airport without traffic, because I believe that. Secondly, Secondly, while I you're right, I mean they kind of suck in fact, Chester Floyd over here meat eater and Seth they love to go catch walleye. Chester has a fish allergy, cannot eat walleye. I have no idea why the hell the dude is going out and just catching them just

to release him. Listen, listen, I'm not you're You're giving me an opportunity to crack a joke about Seth and Chester, who I don't talk too often, and I don't like making fun of people I don't know all that well. But I look at their Instagram stories and their walleye fishing, and no one is talking. All you ever hear is just that light hule slap on the hull. It's just silence and light hull slap, and I'm like, colon, I haven't. Let's get excited about something here anyway, and that's that

is what it is, okay. Uh, but let's hit on that tackle because it is pretty cool. Okay. So per the story, the breeze was using a noodle rod and his real was spooled with six pound test and he does this for the extra sensitivity to ensure he knows the exact second when a walleye picks up his bait. And this makes total sense to me because most of the time you have no idea that a walleye just picked up your ship, okay, because they don't. They don't like hit very hard either most of the time, so

that's genius. But even so, it can't take twenty five minutes to land a walleye on a noodle rod. I mean, you're a steelhead guy. Noodle rods were designed to absorb the fast, hard runs and thrashes of steelhead and salmon. And I mean six pound tests. That's light, but it's not two pound tests. So like eighteen pound steelhead on six pound Yeah, I'm nervous about that eighteen pound wally, not at all. It couldn't have thought that much harder than the nine pounder he caught. I mean, I fish

steelhead with six pound test all the time. Yeah, all the time, and particularly if it's like Flora or something where it's like not going to completely fail the second it gets like a little bit of a nick in it, right, I would say that it is a very long time to be fighting that fish. Yeah, exactly exactly. So look, and we're not. I'm not, I'm not. It's still an awesome catch. I just when somebody tells me they fought a wall eye for five minutes, I'm like, no, you didn't. Anyway.

So the breeze was fishing with his son, and when his son finally got this fish to the net, right, the story says that the big old wall I snapped the net handle. That I believe, right, I believe that. I mean eighteen pounds of fish. Eighteen pounds fish. That's big old fish. So what do they do with the fish after catching it? Race it off to a certified scale? Nay, they did not. They put it in the bathtub. The breeze keeps outside on his property that's rigged up to

keep fish alive until he's ready to eat them. Compart this story. The Breeze is known around town for hosting Friday night events he calls hill Billy Surf and Turf, where he makes hamburgers and whatever fish are presently in the outside bathtub. I want to hang out with this man. I just love him so much. I just want to be a part. I want to be a part of

all this. It's so good. Um. So it was his son, Richard Jr. Who stopped the Breeze from instantly taking a knife to the fish because he was like, hey, Dad, you know we might we might have a record here. So they waited on an old hanging scale that they just had in their garage or whatever. They saw that it hit eighteen pounds um. Then immediately took it to a local grocery store and had the butcher way it to confirm. And when they saw that the weight match,

that's when they knew. They were like, okay, we got it. So basically, all that needs to happen to make this official is the paperwork filed and and the fish triple and double check, and if it all checks out, the Breeze has a state record. And this is my favorite part. Right, he caught the fish in a spot he's been fishing for fifty years and he started fishing it with his dad. Wait for it, Glenn the wind, Nicholson, he's the wind

too much. So if Granddad was the wind and the sun is the breeze, what's the grandsun light in variable occasional gust of fifteen? I don't know. I just love the whole. I love the whole, theming, I love everything about it. I love when a record like this falls to just a dude, just a dude on the bank with a live creek chub. It's so much more satisfying to me. And it's not, you know, that far out

from your opportunistic cat fisherman the other day. No, and and and also you know, I think the yaka Gane is a great example. Like I said, I know it as a as a trophy brown trout river. And there's so many rivers like that where they have these deep dark holes in these spots and the average you know, flied you or whatever. He's gonna rip a streamers there.

A few times nothing happens, but those holes always leave you wondering like what's actually down Like some crazy ship has to live in there, But you're so caught up in how you want to fish. There's a strong chance what you're doing will never allow you to see what's in there because you're gonna rip one streamer through or whatever. And it's just, I mean just he throws a creek chub on the bottom and that's what gets it done.

And and it's guys like the Breeze in some ways that I think are seeing more of what rivers like this have to offer than the guy who just wants to be the streamer junkie or whatever. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, man, there aren't a bunch of streamer junkies that are gonna find themselves wildly successful on the wall eye bite in general. No, now, But I've seen people do that and I'm like, I'm sorry, this is stupid. All you just did was put on a really heavy

jiggy fly and bounce it off the bottom. It is steven fly fishing. Um. The other thing that I wonder is how many like dedicated wall eye anglers are just like eating their teeth right now at the thought of somebody keeping an eighteen pound walleye. Well there is that, yes, that then there's something to be said for that. Also, I mean the breeze kind of spilled all the beans. He's like places full of huge walleyes. It's like, would you have kept that, wallyye, Joe, No, I wouldn't have.

I wouldn't have and and and that's not just me being righteous. Um, I'm I'm a firm believer in in for quality on the table, eating the smallest fish you can legally eat in most cases, Like I'm like a like a twenty six in striped bass is better on the table than the meat from a forty pounder. Yeah, and I think that's true of a lot of fish. Yeah, I certainly think that's true. Man. You know, I don't keep a lot of the trout that I just because in general I kind of find trout to be not

my favorite fish to eat. What I will do is, um, I will keep some brookies here and there as long as they're like the ten inch mark. And that has nothing to do with conservation. That is strictly a palette informed decision, right right, Well, regardless, he did keep it, so there's no point in crying about it. I'm sure. I'm sure the hill Billy surf and turf that Friday man he invited everybody from the next neighborhood over to

with a feed like that. Fun story regardless. Congrats to the Breeze, and I really mean it seems like a cool dude. I would love to hang out with them. We'll see who Phil wants to hang out with now, the Shark, Swimmer or the Breeze at the Hillbilly Surf and Turf event. And when we're done, we've got a weekly word for you, guys. We're diving back into the world of fun derogatory slang terms for outsiders. This one coming from the homeland of this week's co host, Jared Serenier,

Southern Louisiana. Hayden, your story ran the gamut. It had everything backstory that tied into some science and some problem solving. It was great, but unfortun and only for you. I was caught off guard this fine Friday morning by the wind and the breeze through my hair. Joe, You're the winner, Joe. I'm just gonna try to get ahead of the d MS on this one. Earlier you said that without shaded, there's a chance we could all be British and we'd be eating a lot more tea and strumpets. I believe

you meant crumpets. I mean, I'm an open minded guy. I just don't know if that diet would fly in the year of our Lord. But hey, England, if you ever decided to give her the old college try again and you end up winning, go ahead and bring over a few of those Nando's Chicken places. That'd be very game for that. So I have just been informed by Joe that Tan Strumpets is a dumb and dumber reference that went right over my head. Oh well, pardon me,

Mr perfect. I guess I've forgotten that you never ever make a mistake. But I will wipe the egg off my face and for the second time in there you of this podcast, Fish News has a loser, and his name is me. Webster's Dictionary defines fish as this week's word is chivo, and it was submitted by listener Nick Bradley, who lives in St. Bernard Parish in deep southeast Louisiana,

just like this week's guest co host Jared Serennier. Now, we've highlighted several derogatory terms for outsiders here, such as Benny, Shooby and fib but I have to admit I was humbled by Nick, who presented a slang term which I'd never heard of, and like many local derogatory terms for outsiders, this one can be used in a fit of anger

or during a jovial moment between friends. Nick writes St. Bernard Parish is home to some of the best inshore fishing in the country and has a centuries old, vibrant fishing culture. It's literally part of the heritage of the people of St. Bernard Parish, and it's that heritage that gives us our word for outsiders. Chievos chivo is Spanish

for kid, as in a baby goat. In the seventeen seventies, the most southeasterly part of St. Bernard Delacro was settled by the Islanios people of the Canary Islands, which was a Spanish colony. The Islanios made a living on the water as fishermen, and commercial fishing remains the community's primary way of life to this day. In order to be successful, the Isslanio's learned and understood the deep intricacies of the

swamp and marsh around them. When others would come into the area and run aground due to unfamiliarity, they would stack objects on the decks of their vessels, stand atop them in order to look out over the marsh and try to make sense of where they were and where

they could successfully navigate. The locals witnessing this recurring phenomenon found humor in it and thought that these stranded outsiders looked like the goats high on the cliffs and volcanic mountains of their homeland, the Canary Islands, thus referring to them as chivos. Chivos still remains a word for unfamiliar nonlocals out on the water, as well as a term of endearment for your buddy who tries he might just sucks at fishing. I hope you all enjoyed this bit

of local history about the parish and our heritage. I enjoyed it immensely, Nick, and I'd love to adopt it, but I'm just not sure chivos will resonate with any of the idiots running the ground in Barnagot Bay in New Jersey. However, you are running with a fellow Saint Bernard boy this week, so let's see whether Jared thinks you nailed this slang lesson or if you're a chievo

when it comes to navigating local history. I think Nick's intentions were good, and I think he I think he got I think he got close all right, But I had to do a little digging, okay. And the red flag for me was the fact that he said that. The red flag for me was when he said that they used the word chievo as a goat from the Canary Islands. But you got a figure they came from the Canary Islands in the late seventeen hundreds. The word probably didn't start being using until like the early night

at the at the very earliest, early nineteen hundreds. That's a two hundred years. So I'm like, I don't think there was anybody around at that point who remembers I had heard about goats in the Canary Islands. So that was the one for me. And look, I'd used this

word growing up, heard the word growing up. I've heard that exact explanation of it, and I've probably heard the real explanation of it in the past, just kind of you know, I just had to had to tread and I had to go into deep water a little bit on called called the resident expert on all things Lanos, my uncle Wimpy. Okay, why is Uncle Wimpy not on with us? I want to talk to Uncle Wimpy? All right, what did he Uncle Wimpy is one of the last

remaining and this is this is pretty cool. He's one of the last remaining speakers of Lanio Spanish alive in the world today. So yeah, so you gotta figure that Spanish came over from the Canaries in the seventeen hundreds, then kind of got mixed in with mainland Spaniards probably, you know, a little bit after that. So these guys speaking their own language down there at Delacro they were cut off from the from the world. You know, they language never evolved, so in a lot of ways, it's

kind of a historic way of speaking. So he's one of the last guys left alive today who speaks that dialect, who speaks that type of Spanish. So I call him. I said, oh, I got something to talk to you with. You know, let's talk about Shivah, right, And I said, look, here's what the dude said on Joe's podcast, and you'll tell him what Nick said. And he's like, nah, not quite. He's close, but not quite it. So here's the real deal.

So sometime around the early nineteen hundreds, folks from New Orleans started word got out how good the fishing was at Delacrox. But it's not like it is now where like you know, pretty much everybody has their own boat. I mean, it was hard to get a boat back then. There wasn't even a real road into Delacrox Island. It was just a rock road. So the cats started coming down from the city looking for folks who already lived there, locals to take them fishing because they had heard about

how good the fishing was. And then so so the cats from Delacro were supplying New Orleans with shrimp and fish and all the things they need to you. The word was getting out, but you didn't have a boat, you didn't have no way to go. So you have to go down there and hire a boat to take you. Well, I mean that right there should tell you there's gonna be some some mixture of folks who have a lot of experience on the boat. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is

the early version of every dock in the Florida Keys. Exactly. So this is where and this is how. This is how close Nick got. Okay, so the way he uncle Whitby explained it was that so all the boats at that point at that time had a cabin on them, you know, where you'd be inside the cabin because they were commercial fishing boats. So the folks from New Orleans would get on the boat and they wanted to to

to get up and see things. Where nick was said they get on top of the cabin, but they were they were just so clumsy and goofy on the boats. They would fall, you know, they fall overboard, they'd get up on the cabinet. They just were so they were so out of swords. It was almost you would have gotten the same type of experience if you had taken a goat and putting a goat on the boat for the first time, because the goat would not know how to act on the boat. So that's where it comes in.

So the actual word chievo is the mainland Spanish word for a goat. The Canary word is a cobra, so it's not even the same word. So it's the fact that they had mountain goats and the Canary Islands. The the guys who lived at Delacro in the early nine hundred who started using the word, they didn't even know they were Canary Islanders. That's how far they were from

that experience. They didn't. Uncle Whippy said, they didn't really even know that they were Canary Islanders until the nineteen seventies. So like all that had been forgotten. It's just a coincidence that you had goats in the Canaries and that

they were using this word. Achiev o. I did. I love this though, Like I'm like, thank you to Uncle Wimpy, but also thanks to Nick because even though okay, like uncle and be clarified like that kicked off this conversation because I was very I was very intrigued by by Nick's definition. So I feel like that is like we really learned some some history there, oh for sure. And look Conway, the folks he had the mako. Just leave the brie out of it, all right, I love it,

love it. I'll be munching on some bree in the duck line and on the boat man, I'll like some breath. You know, you don't have to be achieving to enjoy brith. They no, you don't. You don't at all anyway. So we are just about done for this week, but before we go, if you need a recommendation, for the tie on the end of your line this weekend. How about a pleasure chad from our sponsors thirteen Fishing. It's the paddle tail swim bait that's ribbed for his or her pleasure.

Uh yeah, yeah, I know Jared's giving me this look, but that's what they wrote on their website. Man. The ribs also provide extra stimulation, maybe two red fish sea trout, perhaps down your way. I would love to be stimulating those with my pleasure Shad, but I will settle for local small jaws. Anyway, I've decided we're gonna skip the full end of the line segment this week and close out with the sale bin because I've got a listing here that should be fun to pick apart with Jared,

especially since he's both a hardcore hunter and angler. Why did you put the hand to pay? You don't know what I've gott man. You didn't have to be so hurtful with me, so angry. So I found this listing on Craigslist and it was posted in Fairborn, Ohio. But for some reason, I feel like this could have easily been a Louisiana based listing, Like is that fair? I feel like I've seen open car ports and quansa huts filled with these same items while driving around down there.

I don't know that you would have someone who had that much of this all in one place, and a lot of it has to do it well. We lose so much stuff in hurricanes, you know. To accumulate that much stuff means that you've been a long time without a hurricane. You know, that is true. I didn't think of that your stuff would just get watched away a

couple of times. That's fair. But this is what this post is a great example um of a post where the items up for grabs aren't particularly interesting, right, the description and instructions are so detailed that it really helps paint a picture of the seller. Okay, now, the title of the post is two and fifty fishing poles, seventeen tackle boxes, and there are twenty photos accompanying this post documenting just the piles and piles of ship that this

guy has. So let's begin. We'll get into the description here. Fairborn, Ohio pickups only. I won't sell all at once or in big bulks. Sorry all caps. No, I won't send them in the mail. Two fishing poles, open face, push button fly rods and bass bait casters. Catfish bait casters two to eighty dollars. Fly rods are around twenty dollars. Seventeen tackle boxes with some normal tackle fifteen to one dollars,

many empty tackle boxes around five to eighteen dollars. So a couple things jump out at me, right, and we're not even done yet. Two to eighty dollars is a massive price range on rods. So why are the fly rods around twenty dollars? Are they shitty fly rods or does he just like not care about them as much as the catfish bait casters. Right. Tackle boxes including normal tackle with included tackle range from fifteen to a hundred bucks.

But he also has tackle boxes with no tackle that are more than the cheapest ones with tackle, and mind you, these are all old school hard plastic tackle boxes, right, all right, let me just say I love this dude like whoever he is. I love him like I'm with you, brot, get your money. You know what you've got. Oh yeah, you know he's gonna get his money because you'll love him more by the end. Okay, So we'll move on here, right. This is continuing from the description. He also has barnet

bow ten dollars. Medium sized dog kennel new twenty dollars. Women's silver rings knew five dollars, five dollars, five dollars. Women's watches need batteries now two dollars each, bag of three turkey calls, a twelve gage turkey choke, and two cameo masks. Pistol holder thirty eight dollars. Now here's where things start to get weird. Right, the last item in this list, all it reads is ask if I have any ball cards for sale? Now? Dude? To me, right,

doesn't that sound like secret code to you? Like when you'll call, he'll know you're a serious buyer if you say the secret phrase. No, it sounds like a flex to me, Like ask me how many basketball cards I have? Thousands? You know, like it's like my kid who like, like I can see my kid come out to me like dead,

asked me how strong I am? That's a flex man, Dude, you could you could be right now, Remember, he said specifically, he refuses to sell all these items at once or break chunks of them off in bulk, right, He's trying to sell them individually. Yet, he says, when you text me. If you ask me questions about price or brands or eyes or color or anything like that, I'm not going to answer you back. If you want to come see them,

you're welcome to period, all of you. I love him so right off the bat, dude, I'm all about the turkey calls, the twelve gauge turkey choke, the two camel masks, which I want to say, if you've hundred with a turkey mask before you know, after about one season of turkey hunting, that mask smells to high heaven. I was gonna say, isn't it like you're like your coffee breath and like hot germs like riddle and there're just like

breathing steam into them all morning, aren't you. Yeah? But I mean it's it's so great and then it gets better at the end. Included in that package for thirty eight dollars is a pistol holster. Right now, I guess that when you're turkey hunting, you can't keep the pistol with you to shoot a snake. Everybody, but I'm I want to hear his explanation as to how the pistol holster. That's the package I want, and I'm offering up right

now to you, sir, a mint condition Kobe Bryant. He's actually holding the Kobe Bryant cards right and as as we're about to learn that might take the whole pile, that might take, he might give you the house and um yeah, but he's also he's also open to trades, right, so there's no cash on hand, no problem, he says, I might be open to some trades. I like basketball cards. Bang, there you go, you're ready. I like basketball cards, firearms, ball cards, depending on what they are, A nice crossbow

and then it all caps again. Big eleven foot polls with Abu Garcia sixty hundreds, boys four and girls one, toys depends maybe household stuff, nice home CD played loud, big smart TV. Stuff to keep beat alive, unused cast nets or no holes. This dude needs to be on my YouTube channel. Bra is an interview. This this is your guy right here, man. I mean it sounds like he is all about some big catfish catch into the big eleven foot poles, big eleven foot poles, cat fishing equipment.

It's like, obviously you're a cat guy, man, Why are you selling that? Um? I wish I live close by because I'd swing in. If anybody listening near Fairbore, Ohio pops into rummage around in this tidal wave of tackle, let us know what you find and how it works out. It seems like one of those deals where there's like a gem or two hiding among all those South Bend pistol grip rods, you know what I mean? Maybe or

maybe not, I don't know. Remember if you find some wild, wacky or ridiculous fishing related wears on your favorite online classified site, fire that link to bent at the Meat Eater dot com and if we use it, I'll stick you. So that's it for this week. Remember if someone gets you a fly shot at a seven pound mako, it's worth putting down the wine and cheese for a hot sec. I'm always open to trading my ball all cards for gift cards to Louisiana Dakary shacks. Even terrible fishing is

better than the best power point presentation. If you ever see Jared serene on the water and he calls you achiev, oh now you know why? Yeah, shout out to Uncle Wimpy for the glification, you know, bringing a little history into it. I appreciate it. Uh. If y'all are interested, go on YouTube type in outside the Levies and not people give you a link YouTube duck up. No, go on YouTube type in outside the Levies. See next time we're having Uncle Wimpy on the show Man. But I'm

so glad you could hang out with us. Um find Jared on Instagram outside the Levies there. Like you said, subscribe to outside the Levies YouTube channel. You will not be disappointed, and hopefully we get to film some more stuff together in the near future. It's been a while, don't forget. I've always got eyes on those degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags, and uh, I'm always coming the emails.

We get it Bent at the metator dot com looking for the next sale Ben item bar nomination, awkward photo and voice memo from you guys. If I use anything you send in any way, shape or four, you'll get a thing or two in the mail for me. But when you text me, if you ask me any questions about price or brands or size or color or anything like that, I'm not going to answer you back. No

tire characters, man, that's you know. I don't blame him like you can get in some texts when you post stuff for sale online bro