That shark hits him, and I chuckle because they're all like, yeah, poo, guys, and then this shark does cold cock. I don't know what you guys. Joe was saying that he can cast his entire reel off in one cast. If you go to porta pontoon dot com, you are redirected to a different U r L Prison art News dot com. I don't win the car. Come on, meat Eater's bigger than Oravious.
Good morning, degenerate Anglers, and welcome to Band the fishing podcast that has no issue spending fifty bucks on a spool of braid but box at the price of a single tapered fly leader. I'm Joe Surmeli a Miles Nulty. Truth. My my solution there is I just used the same tapered leader all season, because that's one way, because I'm cheap and and I know how to tie a damn good blood not so having said all that, like, uh,
I don't know where you're going with this. Is like the theme the price of fishing line is that that you're doing And it's like a bit of a loose theme this week, But I guess I guess it's about spending money wisely, we'll say, and it's sort of stems from like a lot of questions we've been getting lately about gear, which, as we've said, we welcome, and we get a ton of people asking for recommendations, particularly on
like lower budget gear, which we're happy to provide. But I think you'll agree right that there are also certain items in the fishing gear world that you just don't scrimp on. Yes, yes, boxed up with you there, completely agree, and I think I see where you're going here, uh to connect that. I also I never skip online, you don't, don't exactly, which I'll talk about more in just a sec here, But like another example, um, you know, like
I also tend to look for quality hooks on lures. However, let's be honest, that's one of those things most of the time, right, you can get by with with budget trebles for freshwater species like bass and trout and walleyes.
But as you said, if I had to peg one like universal spend that applies to all anglers, it would be braid and floora carbon Like I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you for just a second, and only because I think I think the piece that brings this all together is like you don't want to skimp on the thing that directly connects you to the fish you want to catch, whether it's the line of the hook right. You can do everything right, and if your line or your hook fails,
you lose. So I think I think that's like the through line of like what you want to not necessarily skimp on. Yeah, And there's a million examples, like when you get really sort of drilled down in different factions, like why you want to vanstall over this reel and surfcasting in general terms, no matter what you're fishing for,
Like that's a big one to me. And I have no issue fishing a like a sixty or eighty dollar rod or reel or a discount lowre but I never ever buy cheap raid or cheap floor of carbon because in my opinion, like that's just where you split it. Like you said, that's your main connection. And I've heard people say many times, Uh, it's all the same. You know, you're paying for the name and you're not not. I you're not. It's not like it's not like pay an extra for for advil. You know, when the CVS brand,
I'd be profen as exactly the same bradings. It's not the same deal. Um So, I mean, no matter what you're chasing, right, there's benefit to good flora because the real stuff, at least I believe, is stronger. It's more brasient resistant and more invisible underwater, which is part of the reason why you buy flora, so it disappears um and and good braid really, I think it's an investment.
Like I have a few reels that have had the same braid on them for years, as do I as do I, and I think the deal that I don't think people recognize as how much technology goes into making good line, whether it's grade or flora carbon. The cheap ones are made cheaply, and they're not made the same way there is, and what you get is a totally different product that won't perform the same It just doesn't. And and that that teas me up because I have
to ask you what is your go to braid? Right? Well, you're talking to a guy who's used all of them too, right, And like, after coming full circle on most of the braids out there, I've gotten my hands on at some point, I gotta say I am a huge fan of Suffix eight thirty two. And that's the braid that has one gore fiber woven into it, you know I'm talking about Yeah, And I'm sure people are like, uh, yeah, look it is.
It's one of the most expensive braids out there, right, But of all the braids I've used, I have never had any issue with it. Uh. Some people say it's like a little bit thicker diameter, maybe slightly stiffer than other braids. Break it in that all goes away, but it is some seriously tough ship. Like I love that line. And then I mean, in a pinch right, classic power Pro would be a close second. I think Power Pro is still one of the best lines. Just don't get
your fingers too close to it when it's moving quickly. Well, that's any braid really kind of Well, I know what you're using to fill those new kalon se spinning reels. I know you got recently from thirteen fishing. That's right, that's right you do. And and let me tell you what, man, those Kalon's they're like they're hot off the press, brand new, and we got a little advanced look at them. Um, and I've been fishing them for a bit now and
I like them a lot so far. Right. They come in smaller freshwater sizes, but they actually run all the way up to size five, which I'll be using in the salt in the very near future. Um, silky smooth. So far, the drag seems really solid. And for those of you perhaps not into some of the shall we say like Louder Colors thirteen was known for, right this Yeah, this series is all sexy chrome and gold trim, No neons, very sharp, no, pretty pretty understated really. I also, for
the record, have a few of the Kalons. I have to admit, because they're so new, I haven't fished them a whole lot. Yeah, yeah, I have. I've gotten the one and the two out, and so far I've enjoyed it, don't. I gotta say like they've performed very well, particularly for the price, right, because it's like a in that line, it's an eighty to a reel, which is very budget friendly and therefore appropriate for the theme of today's show. Agreed, Agreed, you save money on the reel, you have more money
for high end braid. Yeah, right, And so I also have similar examples of like where not to skimp on the fly side when you're buying gear. But I'm gonna let you wait in first to see if my examples match yours. I feel I mean, I feel like we may have talked about it, but the same deal man line. Right.
I will first say, though, before I dig into where I want to go with just fly line, I'm gonna give a quick tip for Flora carbon for fly fishing, right, And what I'm gonna say is, don't bother with the four markup on on the Flora carbon tipp it that like has fly fishing written on it and it's sold in those tiny little spools. Just buy the big conventional
spools of really good quality flora. And if if you just gotta have the little mini tippets pools to hang off your vest or your fanny pack or whatever, just refill them with the much cheaper conventional floor oh same stuff. Save yourself a bunch of money. Having said all that, the place you should not skimp is fly line, middle of the road, fly rods anymore, excellent fly reels and
most freshwater situations are just line holders. Salts a little different, but I still don't think you need top of the line in most circumstances. I do notice a huge difference however, between a fifty dollar fly line and a ninety fly line. So I'd say spend your money there. It's worth It could not be more eye to eye on that. Um And I would say, we're not wait this week, we're
not arguing because I I agree with this. The line was absolutely a pick of mine, right, and I think if you're a beginner caster, it's even more important because and I know right, the cheapest like bass Pro house brand fly line is not going to make you proficient faster, you know what I mean, Like similar to braid there, you're paying for technology that goes into those lines. So splurge on good fly line. Um And I dude, I couldn't even tell you the last time I bought a
spool of fly specific flora I have. I have spools of of of like micro stuff for drys on occasion though though that's not what I do mostly, but otherwise, like, there are spools of STrenD Berkeley Suffix all manner of flora ranging from four to twenty pound in my fly my fly bag, and it works just fine for fly fishing. Um But and I had originally brought up tapered leaders though, because if you can learn like one not, you can easily make your own there too. That's why I originally
shouted that out. And I'm gonna say I have a lot of love just for the the aesthetic beauty of a good blood. Not the surgeon not works. Fine, I get it, it's strong use whatever not makes most ends to you. But for me, sometimes the most satisfying part of my day is having that blood not come together just perfectly, just so in such exactly what you mean. Yeah, but we look, we could. We could definitely talk about this stuff all day. We can talk tackle, we can
talk fly, we can talk convention, we talk reels. But what about boats. I know we've talked about as many times our first boats, both of ours were total beaters, and that that like that could those conversations just so you all know those conversations where the idea for doss boat came from in the first place. Right, we're just celebrating the nostalgia and the functionality and the love we have for shitty old boats. All that said, some boats
are not worth the aggravation. There are boats you should not buy, and we have it. I'd call it an extra special sale. Bin segment that that I I hope serves as a warning, no matter how desperate you are, to get off the bank and on a lake in a vessel that you can call all your owner, no matter how bad you want to be the captain, do not buy this boat. Why did you put the hand to pay? You don't know what I'm getting? Man? What you didn't have to be so hurtful with me so angry.
This week's Saleman has layers. I think that's the That's that's one way to put it. Yeah, layers upon layers upon layers, just like really bad ideas and this one. Yes, I'm excited for this and this was a trip, dude. Yeah, yeah, I agree, And I agree that most of the layers consist of bad ideas. But I also think, I also think that those layers might be piled on top of a seed, a small seed, and maybe a somewhat deformed seed of brilliance. It's like, it's like it's like the
princess and the pea. Do you remember that. I can I can feel the lump of an interesting concept even under all those mattresses of bullshit. That's the analogy that comes to my no, no, no, there's there is no p there's no seed. This will not grow if you plan it. I am certain, uh that this item is. It is just as idiotic as the insane scheme that's
been built to sell it. Okay, this, I mean, the whole thing is funny, right, but I am shocked that any part of you has been suckered by the marketing of this product, because this one a little bit, this one, I mean, dude, we've done some wacky stuff here, but this one deserves like all the ridicule we could possibly throw at it. This one's next level. Enough enough build
let's let's let's set this up. A few of you have sent this sale ban nomination, but I think the first one that I saw anyway came from Nate luked
looked looched. I don't know any of those three. Let us know Nate and Nate sent us a Craigslist ad from d c and and the title of that this ad is free in all caps, free boat for reps, pontoon boat, kayak, canoe raft john boat see videos eight hundred dollars and the following descript I gotta say, the following description just makes the whole thing sound like a
nautical pyramid scheme. Okay, so here it is become a representative for the unique and popular Porta Pontoon for only eight hundred dollars and get a free again in all caps free pared a pontoon family pontoon boat with no strings attached sells for As a representative, you are not obligated to carry any inventory or make any commitment whatsoever.
You only agree to give a test ride on your Porta Pontoon to any perspective buyer at your convenience, for which you will be compensated one in cash for each test ride you give. If the prospective buyer agrees to buy a Porta Pontoon after the test ride, you will be paid in additional on You need do nothing more. The buyer will be charged one hundred dollars less than the list price to compensate for the fee given by him slash her to you for the test ride. So okay, right,
we gotta let's examine that last sent the buyer. The buyer will be charged one less than the list price to compensate for the fee given by him or her to you for the test ride. So if I'm the sales rap for the company, I have to hang out like in my local lake, offering test rides that cost a hundred dollars each. I think we we haven't even described the craft yet, but I'm guessing most of you wouldn't pony up a hundred clams for a test ride on anything, let let alone what we're about to describe.
So the ad goes on continue. We will handle all billion shipment of the Porta Pontoon to the buyer. You were under no obligation whatsoever to make any sales. The porta Pontoon sells itself. Everyone wants a test ride on the Porta Pontoon, including skeptics who don't remain skeptics after the ride. Ten test rides will net you one thousand dollars, whether you do them in a day, a week, or
a month. Become a Porta Pontoon representative. Now you have nothing to risk and everything to gain, including your own free porta Pontoon to keep. So here's where there's more evidence that the person has no idea what they're talking about. They claim ten test rides will net you, and net is the key word, a thousand bucks. But you already
spent eight hundred dollars. To become a sales wrap, which is just another way of saying you just spent eight hundred dollars on the boat, right right, which would mean that if you did ten test rides, you net two hundred dollars. Now, I'm not in economics ways by any stretch of the imagination. I mean, I was in the math trailer straight through college, okay, But knowing the difference between net and gross is kind of the definition of basic econ. You know, it is it is, And that
was like everything about that setup was flawed. I agree with you. I am definitely not signing up to be apport Upontoon sales reps. I'm not gonna spend eight hundred bucks so I can like hang around local lakes and try to convince people to give me a hundred bucks to test ride my boat, because you have to be able to take credit cards. Like, who's even got a
hundred bucks cash on him anymore? It's ridiculous. None of it makes sense, right, And and here's the thing that really makes support Upontoon either genius or the stupidest thing ever. The entire boat consists of eight knockoff rubber maide totes four chunks supply with four chunks of press board and ten compression straps. That's it. It's it's like a modern huck finn raft made from spare hardware store parts. Yeah, and it's it's all. It's it's all like strapped together.
And I literally hundred bucks to take a test ride on huck Finns shitty rat. And I literally when you found this, I just typed in the search box and google black and yellow tote and instantly like hit number one,
the exact totes for sale at Loews. However, why not let's thicken the plot, right, because the post was written by Captain Dennis no last name, who is supposedly the inventor of the Porta pontoon, which, according to him, it collapses and fits in the car back seat or trunk, uses oars or an outboard your choice, suitable for a family of five, right, And he says most popular is the basic model that does not include the optional removable
canopy top. That's the most popular one, okay, um, But like if this ship isn't loony enough, Captain Dennis wrote entire book about his life's work inventing the Porta Pontoon, called The Amazing collapsible pontoon boat, which he says in the post, is available on Amazon um and in it you'll hear the story of how this magnificent invention came to be, which involved consulting with engineers to create the
first production model. Like it's and insane, Like it's maybe two and alls worth the materials they're trying to sell for a thousand. You could make this yourself easily. In fact, I think the shipping is free because when you send him a thousand dollars, he just logs on a home depot, buys all the parts and just sends them to you to send them to your house. That's what you get. You'd get it from You'd get the boat from home depot.
You know. I think that's all accurate, and I agree with you there, But I I don't think the problem is so much in the design, as crazy as it sounds like. I'm intrigued by that. I think the real problem with this whole idea is branding and marketing, because it looks like a floating garage sale, and the idea of the whole sales rep Pyramid sky angles is not going to work. But having a boat that you can break down into a stack of tubs and a few
chunks would appeals to me on some level. And that's that is the seed, That is the p that I think qualifies as clever. I like the idea of a guy building his own boat ship laying around his garage. Yeah, and I'm all about that. And just like another comment, this is not the only collapsible boat out there. There's been one, like collapsible canoes, kayaks there, dude, there was the inflatable drift boat. Remember that. Do you know anybody
who like leaned into that forever? You know what I mean? Like, I've never seen one of these things work, but with this one in particular. Did you watch the videos because I have, And let me tell you what, there's a lot of listing and sagging and dipping. So like it's fine to say survive on maybe, like I would rather have this than nothing if I was in the middle of the ocean, but like, as as a choice to
recreate what kind of questions that did? I watched the videos, of course I watched the videos, and I particularly the one. Did you see the one where this computerized voice did the video? Like they couldn't even record the video of themselves. They had to type it into a program to do it like a robot did it. The videos did not convince me to go out and buy the product. But even after watching them, the products still isn't my issue. It's it's still the marketing. It's everything from the pyramid
scheme to Captain Dennis's crazy book. Like, that's my issue. You know. I tried to buy you a copy of the book. I couldn't find it for Phillo. Yeah, I looked. I was like, you're a book guy that maybe this is terrific. It must I must be sold out, or maybe OPRA flagged it and gave everyone a poort u pontoon. Everybody get humped back, Well you get hump back, Well you getta hump back. Well, everybody's gonna hump back. Well I'm not I'm not surprised you couldn't find a copy.
The Craigslist add also said that this vote was quote selected by Southern Voting Magazine. Would she is a real thing? But if you search the Southern Voting Magazine website, no mention of the porta pontoon comes up. Yet also claims the boat was created and sold by the Fair Winds Foundation which doesn't seem to exist. Finally, if you porta pontoon dot com, you are redirected to a different U r L that I assume was built for a very
different purpose prison art news dot com. That's like the m Night Shamalan moment of this exactly right, and now all this might make sense. I don't know if what I'm about to say is true, but this is my this is my story. I'm sticking to it. I think this entire invention and the book about it, was a project that kept somebody saying and focused through a stint in prison, Like the porta pontoon saved my life when I was in prison. That's what I think happened. And
that is my final justification for kind of loving this product. Well, there you go. It's it's all very shall shank listen. We don't recommend you get sucked in this scheme, but if you do, please let us know how the vessel treat you, how it handles, how it takes a turn, how it works in class five white water um. And if you come across someone else's prison survival product that's even slightly fishing related, please send a link to bent
at the Meat eator dot com. You know what, though, it dawns on me that, considering how hard it is to find a good used boat right now, we also may just have inadvertently seated the idea of competition for the well yeah, because like we said, there's there's nothing there that. Yeah, there's nothing there that can't be purchased at home depot. So I mean, hell, I might make too and just throw them on the lawn for a
thousand bucks. Pop City. You should too, you know what I mean, a little extra walking around money also put up put up signs that says that you're looking for for reps and people that it's not a bad idea. I could use whatever cash I make off of that to buy a bigger shadow box to display my huge, glittering array of trophies that I have won in the weekly Internet searching competition we like to call fish news.
Fish news. That escalated quickly. First and foremost, right, we just wanted to say that we were overwhelmed by the number of submissions we got for the Get Bent Experienced contest right like the entry period. It's it's closed now, but OMG, like dude, we were laughing and wincing and shaking our heads reading some of those stories. Like, you guys did a fantastic There are some amazing stories in there. Yeah, it really really blown away by the number and and
the quality of the content. Um, you know, but it's gonna it's it's gonna take us a little while to comb through all of them and pick a winner. But we just want you guys to know they were all received, they are all being read. It's there's some work on our end. There's some There's a lot there. Let's just be honest, there's a lot there. We're reading them all, we have all and we have a hard decision to make right because there is no one that I can point to go well, that one just blows them all
out of the water. There are so many strong ones, yes, that we have to put some thought and effort to this or just randomly pick one because we run out of time. I don't know what we're gonna do, but we're gonna find a good one. Yeah, somebody out there is gonna hear from us in the relatively near future and end up on this show. But just give us some time. We are absorbing all of them. Okay, it's gonna go through many different rounds, but great job. We're
so pumped. Um. I got just a couple other juicy shout outs here before we jump in the news. Their quickies but just just so good. So remember I did a finclips not long ago about mad tim catfish, right, and how they make excellent small mouth baits, but also how they can be kind of tricky to collect, and how they also can can stick you with with venomous
spines and give you a nasty poke. Well, listener Jim Birchfield wrote in uh and said, here's what you do, not only to catch more mad times faster, but reduce
your risk of getting stuck. He says, instead of trying to sane them, right, you lift rocks very slowly and just take a little peek underneath, and as soon as you see a mad tom chilling under there, you lower the rock back ever so gently so it doesn't spook, and then you just give the rock a solid whack with a hammer, and the shock wave traveling through the rocks stuns the mad tom. So you can just then just lift the rock and they're all comatose and you're
just easily scooping with a dip net. And he says after about two minutes in your bucket, the mad tip comes back to life and it's as right as rain. And if that works, that's one of the best bait collection tips I've ever heard. That's right up there with with the Golden Rod grubs. Yes, I that's that's a really good one. That's actually making me want to go on a mad Tom mission. Um, so, Jim appreciate that one.
And then Jake Bram hit me up on Instagram to let me know that we missed something in our coverage of the jetty and that's my bar. Okay, he says, um it has a pretty strong reputation as a swingers bar. So yeah, So if that's what you're into, you okay, turn off for some turn on for this perhaps perhaps and send him for some of you to visit this on the water drinking establishment in Maryland even more now.
So appreciate that, Jake, thanks for letting us know to be on the lookout for that if we end up there eating the oysters. So that's what I got for shout outs. That's uh. I think it's it's it don't eat the oysters, that's oysters. Do look out for someone who's given you the right kind of wink, got it? Okay, that's what we do with the jetty. Um, we're gonna We're gonna jump into the actual fish News segment here, And just just a quick reminder for those of you
who don't know, this is a competition. Joe and I don't know what the other is bringing to the table. And at the end, Phil, who is our figurehead some might say maybe even our godhead, would we call him that. Phil is going to jump in and he is going to decide who is a winner and who is a woser. As gonna say, he Rick rolled me for real last week, which is with his judgment, like I was, he legit Rick rolled me. So I'm still pissed that he gave you the wind, but it was worth it to get
the rip roll. I will admit that. Um and you are up first this week. It is okay, okay, So let's get a little weird and bloody and talk freak fishing accidents because this one has to be one of the more bizarre ones I've heard. And when I when I first heard this, my initial thought was like no way. But then after thinking about it for a while, I've changed my mind and I see how it's it's it's
very plausible. So this comes from South Dakota's Kilo Land dot com and it says on June seven, Todd thessen Bits was doing a little fishing on a lake in minnie Haaha County and during said outing, Todd connected with a nice pike. And while the story doesn't specify, I'm betting he was actually walleye fishing because he was using a bottom bouncer rig. And in case you don't know what that is, okay, picture is car shaped weight with
a thin wire running right through it. And the wire is V shaped, so one arm of the V has the weight in the middle and more of the bare wire extending below it, and the other arm has a snap swivel at the end, so you you tie your mainline to the iselet that's in the point or like the crook of the V. So what you do is run a leader off that snap swivel and you have it trailing a spinner harness or crawler harness. I think some guys even do this with just a live minnow
in toe and uh. The While the rig as a whole looks kind of awkward, the idea is that as the boat is drifting. Okay, this weight keeps the rig running along the bottom, but it's the wire sticking out of the weight that makes contact with the bottom and sort of ticks along, and it doesn't snag up very easily. So basically it's letting you drag the offering just off the bottom without getting hung up. Um. And it's Walleye guys that I would say, lean on them the hardest.
I've always seen that as a all I take you. Yeah, it's it's X, but I have always seen it for a walleye right right. So anyway, Todd's out there bottom bouncing. He hooks this pike and just when he gets it to the surface, his leader snaps sling, shotting the bottom bouncer at him, and it hits with the wire and first right in the chest, and he says in the story, I've seen the bottom bouncer come flying towards me like in slow motion. Well, I thought it just hit me
in the chest. But when it hit me in the chest, I felt something right here and then realized that it was stuck inside of me. So the yeah, So the wire below the weight punched into his chest so hard and deeply that it punctured the freaking left ventricle of his heart. Okay, And as I said earlier, at first I thought, no way, Like, there's so much hardness there, your your your breastplate and everything. Um, but I don't exactly use bottom bouncer. So it's not a piece of
tackle I'm very familiar with. And I swore that I remember them having like a curled over end or like an angled end, but I was totally wrong. It's just that, Yeah, it's just a te off piece of stiff wire coming out of the bottom of that wig, which makes this thing like a heavy ass blow dart with a really long tip. Right. So, now now that I like like kind of like looked into the bottom bouncer, and I see, I see how this is possible. Now if that thing's
flying at you so luckily, I mean, you can't. I don't know about you, but all I can think about is the scene in pulp fiction right now, Oh totally when he hits on the chest with the adrenaline needle. You gotta gotta punch through the breathplate with the needle, That's exactly He's like, you got, Yeah, you gotta hit
her so hard that the same thing like that. Still, even though you know it wasn't blunt like it is a pointy I guess wire, it still seems like the amount of force it would have bent before it made it through there. But apparently not super stiff wire. Man. I there there, they're stiff. I can see. Okay, okay, well there you go. So luckily Todd's wife and daughter were out with him, and his daughter happens to be a nurse, and uh, she had the wherewithal to leave
it in. She said, you know, your instinct in a situation like that when you have something foreign, is to just get it out. But they credited her with his recovery because they didn't take it out. So they had first responders waiting at the dock, and his wife, Marie, drove them in and she said every wave they hit, the poor guy was just like screaming because it hurts
so bad when he was getting shaken around right. Um, And apparently the ambulance crew cut the weight off the bottom bouncer and then clamped off the wound, leaving just the wire in his chest, so he wasn't traveling with the whole weight anymore. Um. And then he was airlifted to Sue Falls. So Todd is recovering. But according to the story, he says his doctors and Sue Falls say, it's a miracle he's still here because had he pulled the bottom bouncer out, they figured he would have bled
out in thirty minutes. So like what a twist that, Like his daughter was there to say, don't do that. So if something like that ever happens to you, remember to contemplate do I take it out? Do I leave it in? Do I take it hout? Do I leave it in? And so this is this is on. This is on par with sinkers hitting people in the eye and ending up like inside their skull behind their eyes and the ocular cavities. I've seen that. I'm sure you've
seen those X rays. Um. I once got pictures from a dude that ended up with a bullet weight in his cheek like it was a literal bullet. Um. But I think the big lesson here with this story is that this the snap back is sort of a sleeper misery maker and fishing. I don't think we think about it enough, you know, like you just you just hurry up and yank to get things unstuck. But I mean, even like a tiny clouds or split shot can hurt you very badly. I'm sure. I bet some of you
out there have stories. A matter of fact, I have seen it personally. Yeah, when when I was gutt in the Laska, particularly for soak, and people would snag the socket, you'd always make the young guide go net because you got that big chunk of weight and this big and someone's reefing on it, and you're like, hey, new guy, you're on net because that thing pulls out of the side of the fish and it comes back and there,
you know, solid chunk's lead coming straight at you. I watched, I watched this kid take one of the forehead and just go out cold on the on the gravel bar. Was done. It was and he had a really nasty egg wound on his face. For a while I felt bad for him. But back to the story you were really talking about. I saw this on a Facebook post, and I think you missed the best detail of the whole story right because the Facebook post I saw was
from his wife from Tom. They rushed, they you know, they make the call, they rush to get to the dock. They get him into the ambulance. She asks a friend to help get the boat back on the trailer because she's kind of shaking up, understandably, and before she goes to the hospital, she makes sure to cover the boat. That that detail was in her Facebook post, and I just thought, yes, yeah, I didn't see the post. I was just reading the news story. They did not mention
that that's good that she's a keeper. That's that's fantastic. He's being rushed to the hospital. But you know, we we got to get the boat cover on before we have Tokay, Yeah, I appreciate that that is the right corporations and good news on this one. Right, he's recovering. This kind of ended the best that it possibly could have. Like, you couldn't get a better outcome from this. It's a freak accident. It's not like I'm gona be afraid of
using bottom bouncers. But that's to have him survived. That first of all, testament to the dude. He's he's tough. And second of all, I'm just happy that that's the way it went, that that's the way we're telling the end of this story. Yea, And I gotta say I've been kind of a owner with the fish News lately. Right, So I appreciate the happy story because I have been
bringing some some negativity into the tournament. Perhaps in my defense, I just report on what's happening, like it's it's not my fault that fish are dying everywhere, so why But I look at these stories and I'm like, oh, that's brutal, that's not funny at all. I'll leave that for Miles. It's still important, right, and then these things are not my fault. Don't hate the messenger, Phil, don't hate the messenger.
But for a change of pace, this is the week of optimism, and I appreciate you setting me up nothing but positive stories for Miles today. So strap on your rose tinted glasses and prepared to feel just a little better about our our shared fishy world. All right. First, great news from the great state of Minnesota that comes to us from the St. Paul Pioneer Press. A recent environment and resources bill passed both the State House and Senate and as a waiting the signature of Governor Tim Walls.
I'm sure that bill includes all kinds of substantive provisions that will have implications for fish and wildlife and water and land contained within its many, many pages. But I am going to focus on one single sentence, which reads, the Commissioner must annually established daily and possession limits for gar Nice, Phil, Can we get around applause for that? Please? Phil?
And some of you out there might be wondering why I just requested applause for one vague and basic sentence slipped into sixty million years and finally someone cares exactly one sentence, Like you know, one sentence slipped into a state level omnimus. Bill doesn't seem like much. But with that sentence, as you were saying, Joe, Guard just made a huge leap up the ladder of fish management hierarchy, right because historically garbin classified as rough fish in Minnesota
and are still categorized as such in most states. Rough fish have none of the basic protections afforded to game fish, like size limits, bagging, possession limits, or seasons. People can kill as many rough fish as they want, any time they want, so long as the method of take is legal. Most rough fish are included our native As you say, sixty five million years, They've been swimming around North America far longer than your beloved bass. They got here first,
ye all right? Now, the term rough fish dates back to the mid nineteenth century and reflects the uninformed attitudes and beliefs toward natural resources that was common at that time. The fact that much of the US still maintains a rough fish versus game fish cast system of management is in my opinion, completely outdated and fails to recognize all that we've learned about ecology in the past half century.
A couple of generations ago, anglers were taught that rough fish i e. Any fish besides what they were trying to catch. We're taking up space in the lake that could be occupied by something better perture small mouth. For example, it was once common practice to toss all rough fish up on the bank and leave them to rot, and many people who did this genuinely thought they were doing good for their resources. But we now know that aquatic
ecosystems don't function that way. They're not a zero sum game. Killing tulabian suckers won't make more wallye. It'll just disrupt the ecosystem and potentially harm the very fish populations those anglers thought they were helping MHM. Thankfully, wanton waste laws came along, which theoretically prevented people from slaughtering rough fish and leaving them to rot in most states, but rough
fish still lack basic protections and baseline management. This bill in Minnesota doesn't go so far as to name guard game fish. Some lawmakers opposed such a radical change and threatened to vote against it if it actually called guard game fish. Can't have that having forbid, but it does establish some baseline protections for them. It's one small step towards rectifying a national fisheries problem. We don't know what the limits will be like, the limits aren't set, but
the fact that limits will be said, that's meaningful. That's a step forward. Yep. The legislation came as a result of public outcry following a YouTube video from last winter that showed a group of dark house spears in Minnesota with a d two dead guard laid out on the ice. The video captured the attention of thousands of people who know nothing about native fish classifications or management, but simply saw what they perceived as carnage and assumed that such
a thing had to be against law. It wasn't, and when the Minnesota Law Enforcement put out a public statement saying that the spears had done nothing illegal. Public rancor shifted to the lawmakers, demanding that they quote stopped the slaughter. Similar incidents have popped up recently in other parts of the country as well, like the video of bow fishers in Oklahoma spearing and then tossing more than a thousand
guard overboard. That incident inspired Oklahoma DFW to propose a new rule requiring bow fishers to keep all fish that the arrow that ruled in pass due to strong pushback from both fishers. So it pisces me off that we now make management decisions about native fish is based on who's yelling the loudest. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's sort of like the key thing here. It's like, it's great, but look at why right right? The fact that politicians,
and this is true everywhere. Most people don't know this, but politicians are in charge of setting laws and designations for fish and wildlife, and that's a that's a huge part of the problem. Biologists and management agencies should make those decisions. They don't. Instead, it's elected officials trying to play kate a generally uninformed public. But again, this is a happy story. I'm not focusing on that I had
to point out. But this is a happy story. I'm genuinely happy that guard will now be managed in Minnesota. I do wish we've gotten there through fact based research on population dynamics, which has existed for quite some time, instead of people getting piste off over YouTube video and yelling at their local representative. But I do hope that this sectifies a broader shift on the horizon for how we manage rough fish. Yeah, I mean I would like
to I would like to think that too. I mean another thing that people don't know or think about with gar. And again I might be talking out of school in terms of the species in Minnesota and stuff, but I know, like with alligator gar, the conditions have to be so perfect for them to spawn. And then if you look at the growth rates on these fish, it takes like your lifetime to make a sixty pounder like they are,
just like they grow so incredibly slowly. So that alone, just like seeing how careless people are with these fish and how they'll just whack so many of them. I mean, it's not like, you know, it's not like carp or something that has a relatively quick turnaround like that species in general, takes so long to mature, or that it always made it a little bit worse. I I mean, I would I would love to think this is a
step in the right direction. It is a step in the right direction unless the limit is like, like you know what, I'm hoping they're not going to do that. I'm hoping they're not gonna do that. The limits are set by the commissioners, so those are not a political choice. Yeah, but I do hear what you're saying. It's like, it's it's it's a great thing, but it's happening because a bunch of people that aren't even involved in in the fishing world are just upset. I think a lot of
things are happening for that reason these days, you know. So, um, that's good though. Actually a few of my buddies from Minnesota sent this along and we're like, hey man, this is like, this is some really good stuff happening up here now. My My second story is about a YouTube video, and it's a terrible it's terrible story. I just couldn't leave it alone, mostly mostly because it gives it gives us a reason to discuss things that were funny when we were kids, that have kind of run their course,
right if that makes sense or it will make sense. Um. But this comes from from loudwire dot com, which is actually a pretty good music news site. I think it's our first story ever from from Loudwire. Um. The headline of this one is Jackass Forever guest star rushed to hospital after shark attack. So I guess there is another Jackass movie coming out, right, and it's it's it's getting it's getting to be a little fast and furious. You know what I'm saying, Like enough a right, I mean,
what else have they got? Okay? But look what I what I gather, uh, is this this is a joint effort to film parts of the movie and use some of what they're filming to also promote the movie during Shark Week, which is another thing similar to Jackass that I believe has run its course and gone to hell like Shark Week, just I think sucks for the last ten years or so. Um. But the Jackass boys took to the High Seas with quote extended cast member Sean
Poopy's McInnerny. Now, right off the bat, I really love the extended cast member idea because it's like, duh, yeah, I know, but It's also like the original Jackass members are older than us, Like you have to have extended cast members in their old men like dude Johnny Knoxville popped up in the video and question for a hot minute. Dude looks like freaking lou Reid. Like his hair is like pure white. It's like, you know, damn John not letting cops shoot sandbags out of a pump shotgun at
you anymore, you know what I mean? I didn't see the story and I did see that video. Remember when he did that movie Bad Grandpa. Yeah, he looks worse character he Bad Grandpa, Like what happened? But I'm like, you know, but you look so so. Poopies is app
It's what he calls himself. I'm going with it. Poop Poopies is apparently a famous surfer, and what he was supposed to do in this video was be pulled by a jet ski on a wakeboard to a jump that was floating out there in the water and launch, hit the jump and launch over a school of what looked like reef sharks. And to me, they looked like all worked up, like maybe they had been baited to get
them all chewy and fired up. Well, definitely they were agitated. Well, Poopies hits the jump and crash lands into the school of sharks and everyone is laughing and hooting and have a wonderful time until his shark literally like launches at him on the surface and grabs his hand. And then the music and the video gets very dramatic. People are screaming for medical bags and turniquets and they jump in,
you know, to save the dude. Um. Now, Poppies got stitched up, though they did have to like reconnect some arteries. It was a pretty good bite on his hand, But Poopies is fine. But I'm about to say something that will make some people think less of me, But I'm already going to hell for much worse, so I don't really care. Okay, I think this was like the funniest Jackass video I've ever seen, and I think that it it speaks to maturity level, believe it or not. And
hear me out. Like when I was much younger in high school and college, I thought Jackass was as funny as everyone else did. And I think, like, you know, people like my age identified with those guys when we were kind of the same age, and like kind of like those guys in our party phase. And now I look at this and the twist they're going for here is that like Jackass turned serious, Like, guys, this is serious. Now,
no one's laughing. This is Jackass doing serious. But like it's poor young Poppies out there getting his hand showed off. Chris Pontius and Steve oh Or bone dry on the boat drinking a white claw and pontificating about the situation, like listen to this, listen to this insight. I mean, this is only one bite in one spot, okay, and he's not missing anything. It's a reminder that, yeah, like we are pushing it pretty hard and this could all.
This could happen. Of course, it's either like everything's okay or this happens. Like my point is, My point is like had Poppies successfully jumped to the school of Sharks, I would have been like lame, like who cares anymore? Like so what, like you guys are literally jumping the shark, which I'm betting this whole stunt was was a play on the famous jump the sharks, saying it was you didn't see that happen He's wearing Oh I didn't see
the phones. Jack Okay, so there he goes to jump the shark, but eighteen year old me would have been in the cafeteria like you guys see poopies jump those sharks, and older, more cynical me, like I get more enjoyment out of ship going wrong than right. And I'm sorry again, but like that shark hits him and I chuckled because they're all like, yeah, poppies and then shark to cold cocks and they're like, oh no, and like I laughed, I'm sorry, I'm terrible. You guys should watch this video anyway.
The thing for me was watching Pontius and Stevo trying to be serious and mature about it and it just doesn't work. I mean, those guys, that's not what they do. They they're good at being jackasses. They made a career out of it. But then trying to be like the the very serious, you know, like deep thinking, let's talk about the implications of our choices. That doesn't work for them.
That's not who they are. Dude. And Stevo went on a whole rant about how in the early days of Jackass he made like four dollars and seventy five cents on beating the crap out of himself. And this whole thing ends with Poopies demanding more money, and I hope he gets it too, you know, maybe and maybe a new nickname, Bloody Bloody Shark Space, blood Bloody Poopies. We've
all had that. Really, that that totally ruins any chance I have it a segue here in oh S contunely with that, I I'm gonna move from well, from from one cartilaginous fish that will bite off Poopy's hand to another cartilaginous fish that won't because it doesn't have teeth. And I'm sticking with my theme of good news for ancient fishes in North America. We're gonna we're gonna roll
with that. Okay. A field crew from the U. S. Geological Surveys Tunnis and Laboratory of Aquatic Science neddad a sixty one in nearly seventy pound female lake sturgeon migrating up New York's Lower Genesee River to spawn. This is the first documented lake sturgeon spawning in the Genesee River in over fifty years. I'm familiar with the Genesee River, Okay. Fascinating did not hit my radar by the way. So
I'm I'm all ears here. And as you know, the Lower Genesee runs bright smack through the heart of downtown Rochester, not known as the most prestige of environments, isn't before it dumps into Lake Ontario, And that area was designated as an Area of Concern by the New York Department of Environmental Conservation, meaning quote the chemical, physical, or biological components of the area's ecosystem are degraded as a result
of local human activities. In other words, it was all messed up and polluted, and the sturgeon couldn't live there. So for decades, the d e C worked with regulatory partners at the U s G, s U S Fish and Wildlife Service, the e p A, as well as Monroe County Department of Health to improve water quality and restore habitat in that Rochester area of concern. The d e C began stocking Lake sturgeon in two thousand three and estimated that the females would reach spawning age in
seventeen to eighteen years. Well, here we are eighteen years in and the first recorded surgeon has returned to the river. Fish was measured, weighed, and then put back to hopefully find a may and produce some wild offspring. A sturgeon returning to the Genesee signifies that all the work that has gone into cleaning up the river and improved habitat is paying dividends. And you know, I gotta say, I think it portends well for the species possible recovery there.
And this is also part of something you're aware of. It. It's a larger trend of increasing lake sturgeon numbers across New York State, which has been a priority for the DC for more than twenty years. They've really put a lot of effort into this. This is one of those examples and frankly a rare example of varied interests, like
different agencies coming together towards a common goal. You had, you had all those different agencies that I mentioned, You had industry, you had fisheries managers, and also anglers have come together and have both made efforts and concessions in order to get here. The New York d C is reminding anglers that the lake sturgeon are starting to come back. There's still listed as threatened. Intensively fishing for sturgeon remains illegal.
Don't get too excited and accidentally hooked fish should be kept in the water and released immediately. They also asked that anglers who incidentally catch a sturgeon just moved to a different spot, like their sturgeon there goes somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah, that seems like a small ask to me, because if this continues to work, like we might be able to intentionally fish for lake sturgeon in New York in the
foreseeable future, your son, our lifetime. Yeah, your son might be able to do a sturgeon fishing close to home and all of that, I gotta say, it just makes me genuinely happy. Yeah, now, dude, that's that's amazing. And and there's actually so I've seen um at the mouth of Niagara River in Lake Ontario. I've seen crews out there like doing netting surveys and things like that on the sturgeon. I know they put a ton of work
into this um. But if the if that river is cleaning up enough to make that viable, to make that that return happen and slowly build on something there, It's got some pretty cool implications even beyond the sturgeon. Because you gotta remember the genesee and Rochester in the heart of that Great Lakes steel and salmon country. There's a ton of rivers up there that get a ton of pressure and you know, boost the economy and bring a
lot of people in. Nobody ever talks about the Genesee. Now, there's probably some guys listen who are like, please stop talking about it might be like a super sleeper, but you've got this pretty big river there that could accommodate a lot of anglers and a lot of fish right in the heart of all this, and it's I've always just heard it's too dirty. They don't or they get you know, a couple but it's they don't get the
kind of runs that the nearby rivers get. So I mean, what a great turnaround that would be if this is sort of also speaking to to that cleanliness. I'd be curious to see if like there's more natural push of the implanted salmon and steelhead moving into that river now too. I'd certainly like to think that that that's going to be one of the by products of this, Like if that ecosystem is clean enough that a sturgeon can come back, that that bodes well. But the other thing that we
don't know yet, right. We know the female sturgeon was to mature and come back up river. We know she's trying to spawn, right, we don't yet know if conditions have improved enough that that they'll successfully spawn and that the eggs will hatch and all that. And I think once we get to that point, then then we can stay with a little more confidence that there's been a major rebound and other species might follow suit. Sure, and that's what they really need to see. I would imagine
for us to have any hope of a sturgeon fishing season. Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. You need you need consistent natural reproduction and then you know the offish will take care of themselves if we let them. Well, dude, I love a good urban fishery, so I like I wish. I wish nothing but the best for for the Genesee and to all our listeners in the Rochester area I love. I'm a big Genesee beer fan like Jenny cream Ale like that does not get enough respect. I have a
Jenny beer sign hanging in my office. Uh So, I hope, I hope that all works out and gives me more reason to come up there and drink it. Like in its native land. I've never had a Jenny creem ail in Rochester, so uh, you know, hopefully it could be good. So um, I guess as soon as we're gonna go to Phil, Phil is gonna decide if he prefers healthy
guar populations or healthy poopies. And then as as soon as you're done here and from Phil, when he declares a winner, we're gonna do a little trivia with a pretty famous friend of ours who could probably recommend a really great fly pattern for the Genesee River. Alright, guys, I am having some trouble deciding who the winner is this week, so I've decided to come up with a little metric. I am going to choose a word, just completely at random. Whoever said the word the fewest number
of times during the fish News segment will be the winner. Yeah, I know it's kind of counterintuitive, but let's see how you guys did. Miles, how many times did you say the word? Wow? Miles only said the word poopies one time. Joe, it's gonna be tough to beat. How'd you do poopies? Poopies, poop poopies, Well, poopies, poopies got stitched up poopies is fine. Poor young poopies out there. Poopies. You guys see poopies
jump those sharks. Yeah, poopies, poopies demanding more money. Healthy poopies, bloody poopies. We've all had them. Oh, by my account, that was thirteen and a half times. I'm sorry, Joe, but it looks like Miles is the winner this week. Congratulations. You've gotta be highly skilled for these shows. You understand that, I do under Are you well versed? They? Are you? Very smart? Man? Half all right? Playing trivia today? Our dear friend, I'm sure you know him, Mr Tom Rosenbauer
of or of his fame. What is going on? Tom? Hey, Joe, how you doing? We're good man, Uh so happy to have you here. Uh. And I mean, look, you're the author of countless books about fly fishing, host the Orvis podcast. You'd like a new media mogul, right, So we we try to tailor our questions to what we know about our guests. And I mean, basically like you invented fly fishing, right, So I'm I'm not certain there's a fly fishing related question that would actually stump you and trivia, But we're
gonna try, so we'll we'll see how this goes. Oh, just wait for my second question. Um, but listen, considering the first time that that you and I fished together, I couldn't find you for the first hour because you were out on a river island taking macro shots of bugs. This first question should not throw you because you know your bugs. But we'll see. So. Uh, here's question number one. Are you ready to play? Are you mentally there? Yeah? Okay, great?
All right. So there are more than three thousand species of may flies known worldwide, and for the most part, most people just call the whole lot of them may flies. However, in certain places, may flies as a collective are known by other names. So which of the following is not an alternative name for those three thousand plus mayflies? Is it? Is it A shad flies, b up winged flies, see fish flies or D spring flies? Fish flies? You're jumping to fish flies? Oh? Man, no, it's the fake one.
There is D spring flies. Really, So, according according to my research, the Canadians often refer to may flies as shad flies or fish flies, and the Brits have been known to refer to them as upwing flies. Oh god, I don't win it, don't I don't win the car. The car kind of money you think we have here, It's just gonna send you a dozen fish fliesus. Apparently, apparently Joe didn't fill you in on this. You can't win anything, you can only lose dignity. Yeah, yeah, that's
how that's how this works. So, man, I figured in one of the books you would have run through all the weirdo names for mayfly is at some point not really a bug guy, despite the fact that I was taking macro shots. I think I was looking on a book or something. You were. You were working on a book, all right, So speaking of books, Um, your book, The Orvis Fly Fishing Guide is hailed as somewhat of a bible in this sport, and I hope I'm correct and that it was released in nineteen eighty four. Do I
have that right? Okay, so it's been around. I was two years old when it was released, so talking about feeling okay, So anyway, eighty four, Man, that was a big year for you. But it was a big year for a certain band as well. So I want to know which of the following was Billboards number one rock song in Night four? Was it a Ario Speedwagons? I can't fight this feeling anymore. Be foreigners. I want to know what love is. See Kenny Logan's foot Loose or
d Van Helen's Jump. Um, you know, the eighties was as far as I'm sorting, a dead zone for but're not wrong. Um yeah, it was the last decade. I figured. Look, I've seen you get a tattoo on the floor at a fly show in Jersey, so I know you've got a little bit of metal in you, man, I know you got you got a little bit of rock and roll. Tom, I would say, what was the second one? So it's uh,
Ario Speedwagons. I can't fight this feeling. Foreigners. I want to know what love is, Kenny Logan's foot Looser, Van Halen's Jump. I'm gonna go with foreigner. Damn, that's correct. The number one was foreigners. I want to know what love is? So I do get the car you get? Yeah, you get, you get right that one, or you can choose any car in any Foreigner music video. So you gotta go on YouTube and we'll we'll track it down for you. But damn, Tom Rosenbauer misses the Mayfly question.
Here's the foreigner that's just made my day. Just so, just so you know, the the number one overall song that year was when Doves Cry. So Tom thanks for playing respect on the Foreigner, answered my friend. Well, thank you, Joe and Miles. Hey, speaking foreigners, We're gonna close out this week's show with our very good Canadian buddy Jay siemens uh and and and we're gonna kick a side end of the line this week for a tackle hack um.
And this is the perfect closing tip in my opinion, because it ties pardon the pun, back to braided line and getting the biggest bang for your buck when you splurge on that premium braided line. No that that that's valid. I'm going to guess that the die hard anglers who know about braid are aware of this trick. But I'm also gonna guess that there's a decent number of you that don't know this. And I will actually go as far as to say this is one of the best
budget friendly fishing tips. I know it does take a little effort you have to put in some time, but it's it's worth it, and I think Ja did a very good job of adding a little bonus, no edge on why proper line spooling is so critical. I'm getting hats from inside the city. Hi, the flood. It's time for that part of the show where we might actually teach you something useful for fishing. Every once in a while we give you something that you might actually use
to help catch fisher or deal with gear. We got our good friend Jay Siemens back to give us a tackle hack and uh and I think Jay's got a pretty good one that might actually save you some money. Jay, what you got for us today? Man, Well, I heard that fishing line is going to be the new toilet paper, the same thing. Yeah, I think I think that's totally accurate. Yeah, So, I mean a braided line isn't cheap. You're spending whatever twenty bucks on the school. So the thing is, I mean,
I don't know what you guys Joe. Joe was saying that he can cast his entire reel off in one cast. But typically typically you're casting, you know, only a quarter of your spool out on on your typical cast. So at the end of the year, your your line in the first the first quarter is you know, it's a
little more afraid, it's a little more worn. So instead of just throwing out the entire spool, what I like to do is I'll transferred off onto an empty school, transferred off a second time to reverse it, and then you put it back on your reel. So essentially it's a it's a brand new school line until you get right to the end. Then you're actually getting to the stuff that's worn from the year before. So you might be able to get like two seasons, three seasons out
of your braided line. That's a good one. You have an extra step that I have not done in there before though, because I've used this trick before, I've always just gone, like, you need a second reel for this, But I've always just gone reel to reel, but real to spool to spool to reel. If you want to keep if you want to keep it on the same real, if you want to switch it to another reel, then
then doing that as well works. Yeah. Yeah, Jay is doing it properly and like with proper care and time to literally to actually reverse the line on the reel he needs it for whereas I am lazy and I'm like, well that one over there needs new lines, So this I can do this now, like only under those are close enough that I can transfer line, and I don't want to go through those two extra steps, so I'm gonna do it this way. Yeah, you're doing it the
right way. Jay and Joe and I are lazy. Well, one of the one other thing that helps a lot is just having a cheap spool of monofilment and then also filling your school up, Like I'll put that down at the bottom first and fill it up maybe a quarter of the way and then and then you're filling it right to the edge, because I see so many people that fill it maybe halfway of their school and you're real doesn't perform as well, it doesn't cast as
easily when you're actually cranking the handle. It Maybe it's supposed to crank six inches a line, but when it's half the diameter, it's only cranking half that, right, So filling your schools is so important right to the edge. It's funny, excit. Remember when braid first came out, right, everybody recommended that you had to put a bed of mono down first because it needed something to bite into aside from filling your spool. And now reels technically don't anymore.
They have the rubber gaskets on them, and they're all supposed to be braid ready. I never got away from that. Even if it's a braid ready reel, I never fill the entire school with braid. There's always some level mono backing on their well and then you might get you might get two reels out of it, right if you're using a little bit of model, you never need that much line unless you're catching sharks or something. But you know which I also do, so I cast all my
line and then I catch sharks everywhere. My name is joisph Melli. That's like triple triple tackle hack in one and and I'm going to reiterate that for those out there, you really do gotta fill your big castor spools all the way to the edge if you want them to perform the way that they should. Just like u J, I see a lot of people who make that mistake and then they wonder why they can't cast the distance they want, why they can't retrieve the way it's supposed to.
It absolutely matters the performance of your reel. So good stuff there, guys. Hopefully that's useful as all of you are trying to find lines somewhere in the barren waste land of tackle that we live in. Now, Dude, for the last few weeks, every time I see three yards of braid in the Walmart, I buy it. So that's
it for this week. If you're trying to figure out where to invest at ten bucks, you just want after spending forty bucks on the scratch offs, we might suggest you put it towards a first edition of Captain Dennis's The Amazing Collapse. Will pontoon boat. Maybe pick up some braid you found somewhere other than the wish app perhaps by a copy of Princess Purple ran on vinyl, or dumpster dive a whole collection of empty tippet spools, refill them and sell them outside Cabela's as top of the
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