Bengals Booth Podcast: Twilight Zone

and Dave Lapham will join me for postgame analysis. Plus in this week's fun Facts Conversation, it's rookie offensive lineman Michael Jordan who reveals that he almost went to Notre Dame instead of Ohio State because of the Macaronian cheese that he was served on his recruiting trip. And yes, the discussion of that topic is as entertaining as it sounds.

All of that is straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribe d on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since maps or apps that calculate driving time. On Sunday afternoon, we learned that the UC football team is headed to the Birmingham Bowl

on January second. I have a basketball game to do the night before, so I plugged Cincinnati and Birmingham into the Ways app and instantaneously learned that it's a six and a half hour drive from my house. Not bad. Two days later, I have a basketball game to do at two Lane, so I plugged Birmingham and New Orleans into Google Maps and that's a five hour drive. Again

not bad. If like me, you're old enough to remember when you had to get out an actual map and try to guestimate driving time, you can appreciate just how convenient it is to have technology available that calculates that with a touch of a button. Now, let's get to the opening drive of Sunday's game in Cleveland. The Bengals have not scored an opening drive touchdown in twenty games.

They did run the opening kickoff back for a score at Baltimore this year, but the last time the offense marched down the field and reached the end zone on its opening drive was Game nine last year against the Saints. Yesterday, the Bengals first play of the game was a twenty one yard pass the Tyler Boyd. Their second play was a twenty six yard run by Joe Mixon. Eventually the Bengals reached the Cleveland six yard line, but that's where

the drive stalled. It becomes a thirty four yard field goal attempt for Randy Bullock to snap to put down the kick. It is high enough, it is long enough, and it is good. So an excellent start for Cincinnati as the Bengals drive down the field and take a three nothing lead on a thirty four yard field goal by Randy Bullock. When Cleveland got the ball for the first time, the Bengals picked off Baker Mayfield, former High Trophy winner, takes the snap, looks to throw guns it

over the middle. Najoku bobbled it, but he pulled it in its taken away by Cincinnati. The Bengals are running it back, Nick Vigil running up the far sideline, and Vigil is taken down near midfield. So Vigil peeled the ball away from David Najoku. Not sure it'll if it'll be ruled a fumble or an interception, but it is a takeaway if it stands, and the Bengals will have the ball at their own forty nine yard lone. He just took it away from like they're gonna they're gonna

say he's down before it got taken away. On the field, there is a fumble recovered by the defense, but first down Cincinnati. That's officially an interception because Vigil ripped the ball out of Najoku's hands before the Cleveland tight end hit the ground, but the Bengals failed to capitalize. Joe Mixon was called for unnecessary roughness when he scuffled with Brown's cornerback Greedy Williams after a two yard run. That fifteen yard penalty put the Bengals in to a bad

down and distance dilemma. Third and twenty three, the Bengals at their own forty eight. Dalton throws a short pass accepted, and it's being run back down the near sideline by Denzel Ward. He's at the twenty. Andy Dalton gives at him at the ten, can't make the tackle, and it's a pick six for the Cleveland brown He's throw it behind d take, bad throw by Andy. Dalton throws behind on and take and the deflection the play by Ward and it's a pick six. Employ What a change of

momentum that was. The Browns were up seven three, and here's mixing on his penalty on the previous play early on in the game, emotions is running high. And uh, you know even when my penalty, who came back apologize on my teammates. You know, I gotta know better than that. They they want to take me out the game, and they tried, but you know, didn't work. At the end of the day, Man, we just gotta keep on grinding, controlling mo we can control and we can't hide the

penalties like that. I mean, it hurts the team and potentially that went right there at least from one. I mean it hurts. So like I said, man, it's got to do better and key control the control. The Bengals responded with another drive into the red zone, but for the second straight time, couldn't reach the end zone. Third down in seven at the eighteen yard line of the Cleveland Browns, the Bengals trailing seven three in the first quarter. Dalton catches a shot gun snap, sets up the throw,

and gets sacked. An inside bull rush topples him back at the twenty nine yard line. Sheldon Richardson with his second tackle in the backfield on this drive. A Randy Bullock field goal made it seven six and One minute later, Cincinnati picked off Mayfield for the second time in the

first quarter. Mayfield ready for the shotgun snap and the first pick in last year's draft has the ball sets up in the pocket, guns it down field and it isn't accepted by Jesse Bates at the forty of Cleveland running down the far sideline to the thirty, the twenty five stays in bounds, runs to the twenty and gets tackled at the twenty yard line. It was a ricochet. It floated into the hands of Jesse Bates and the Bengals have their second takeaway here in the first quarter.

It's gonna come back dark Quest and Art had an illegal block appeal back block on the return. The interception is gonna stand, but on the return that's gonna be decated by another penalty. This time the Bengals overcame the penalty. Bengals go hurry up so that Cleveland cannot change personnel. On first down in goal, Dalton hands it off to Mixon and he runs it right up the gut and into the end zone far up Bengals touchdown. The Bengals had a thirteen seven lead and Nixon had an incredible day.

Rushing for a career high one hundred and forty six yards and adding forty more on three pass receptions. Here's Joe. I think Coase did a grid job dealing him up, and our linement did a grid job ceiling and kicking out and doing what you know, it was tough to do. And I was just going in or finding him on the lot of host today and you know, I was just trying to explode through and finished my run strong. So you know, like I said, man, he's gotta keep

getting better each and every week. And I felt like we had it in the right direction, but he's got to come out and finish. In the first half, Cincinnati outgained Cleveland two forty two to one thirty nine, and yet the Browns went to the locker room with a one point lead. Third down in goal from the seven shotgun snap blitz coming, Mayfield steps up. He's scrambling, laughed, Mayfield will tie for the pylon? Did he step out first? No, it's a touchdown for the Cleveland Browns. It was fourteen

thirteen Cleveland at the half. I talked to Tyler Boyd about dominating the stat sheet but not the scoreboard. He went up and down the field all day. Were there times that you almost looked up at the scoreboard and wondered, how are we not winning? Fox? Absolutely because like I mentioned, Man, we outplayed them guys. You know, we just just the little plays that happened throughout the game that didn't go our way and we didn't execute. And a raise on

both times, man heard us. You know, you've got to score in Uni raise on three point thin going win you games, you know, So we just gotta we just gotta do a better job of it, executing whatever the play calls. In the second half, the Browns did a better job of using the NFL's leading rusher, Nick Chubb. He had three carries for seven yards in the first half. He finished the game with fifteen carries for one hundred six yards. Looked like we had early movement. There's the

penalty flag, gets a handoff to Chubb. He breaks through ankle tackles. He's sprinting down the middle of the field. He's going to take it inside the twenty fifteen, cuts back to the ten five. He gets tackled by Will Jackson at the three yard line. Will it come back or was it on Cincinnati? Well? The Bengals were definitely in the nutro zone. Will they drawn number ninety three defense tenets defined he's all for the play. First found Andrew Brown jumped offside. They called him on ninety three.

He went in the nutro zone and all of a sudd down anemic running game looks great. All you do is need to break one like Chubb broke and he is something and else. Boy, he finishes every run as hard as he possibly can. From there, Kareem Hunt ran it in to give Cleveland a twenty one to thirteen lead. The Bengals answered with a sixteen play drive that included runs of six, eight, nineteen, and six by mixing, but on first and goal from the two, Joe did not

get the ball. They trailed by eight. Dalton the shotgun drops back to throw looking and he gets hit from behind. Did he hold down to the ball. Yeah, he managed to hold on to the ball. I thought he was going to get stripped from behind. He goes down They'll say at the nine yard line. That's a bad place to take a sack. But the protection was horrible and

everything just collapsed on him on the back side. Two incomplete passes later, the Bengals settled for another field goal after having a first down at the two yard line. The Browns didn't have to get close to the red zone to get the same results. From fifty three yards away with Cleveland up by five, the snap to put down the kick. It is long enough and it is good. The Bengals get to the two yard line and get three points. The Browns get to the forty yard line

and get three points. Technically, the Browns made it to the thirty five, but you get the point. On their first four red zone drives, the Bengals scored one touchdown and kicked three field goals. On their final red zone drive, they didn't score at all. Fourth and goal from the four, Dalton waits for a shotgun snap, three receivers and a bunch out to the right. Two receivers go out to the left. Dalton stomps the right foot and he catches

the shotgun snap looks to run. Talton, trying to find a running lane, tackled at the two and the Bengals get nothing that came with seven fourteen to go, the Bengals passing up a chip shot field goal that could have pulled them within five to go for it on

fourth and goal from the four. Zach Taylor explained after the game that part of his thinking was that if the Bengals didn't get a touchdown, the Browns would be backed up deep in their own territory, and if the defense that played so well in the first half got another stop, the offense would get the ball back in good field position. That's almost how it played out. Mayfield waiting for a shotgun snap, Landry motions to the right. He's back to throw, He's looking left. His pass is

intercepted a ricochet. The Bengals have it in the red zone, as that pass intended for Odell Beckham Junior was patted up in the air and intercepted, and the Bengals will have it at the sixteen yard line. Jessie Bates comes away with a pick. Half a review, there was pass interference hunder twenty two defense ball will replace at the

start of the foul first out. A year ago, that would have been an interception, but the rule change that resulted from last year's Saints Ram's playoff game allows the officials to look for pass interference on replays even if there was no call on the field called on Will Jackson and gave the ball back to the Browns. Here's Tyler Boyd. Man today, I felt like that nothing was going our way. You know. I didn't feel a lot of cars that they made was bullcrap. Man. It wasn't

the right calls. And I feel like they played with the rest was on their side. You know, I think that's the first game actually I felt that the rest was on their side. You know. But the end of the days that came in. Can't worry about that, you know, we got to continue to play our game and just make place. Following that call, each team kicked the field goal to make the final score. Cleveland twenty seven, Cincinnati nineteen. Here's Joe Mixon. You know, we had our opportunities out there.

We could we couldn't capitalize on some and you know, some we just couldn't control. Man. So at the end of the day, like I said, we just got to come out and play better and hopefully, you know, come out and win them close. Once we got three more weeks to put it on tape, and I was, like I said, we just got to keep progressing and getting better with each other, EASi and every week. Now time for a pair of one on one locker room conversation. First,

I spoke to Jesse Bates, who had two interceptions. Unfortunately only one of them counted. This is one of those games, Jesse were Statistically you'd think the Bengals won easily, but between the inability to score in some of the red zone and some really costly penalties, you wind up with the loss. Yeah, I think do we win the turnover battle? You did? Yeah, So, um, anytime you do that and you know you out gain them, Um, it sucks. But I think we played well enough to win, but it

wasn't consistently enough to win today. So um, you know it sucks obviously, but um, we got another opportunity next week to gain some more momentum as a team going forward. We're there times where he almost looked up at the scoreboard and said, how are we not winning? Yeah, even when we're down on going into halftime, I felt like we were winning. Um. I don't know what it was.

Maybe that's a good thing. We're having good vibes around here, so um, yeah, I mean we felt I felt confident that we're gonna win that game whole the whole time, start start from the beginning. So you didn't ultimately, you know, keep the street going of seventeen points or fewer. They had to pick six that contributed. But did you feel this was another solid performance by the defense? Yeah. Um, obviously there's a lot of good things that we did,

a lot of things I can get better. UM. Think in the third quarter they rushed the ball pretty well on us. UM. But you know, you gotta go into film tomorrow and you know make the corrections on the long run by Chubb. There was an offside on that play. Was there a brief hesitation on the defense where you wondered whether the play was going to go? Yeah? I actually missed that TAFA. Yeah, so un sucks. But I mean this, we can't control what the rest do. We

got to control what we can make place. I think Joe Mixon had one hundred and eighty plus rushing receiving yards combined. U does it bum you out when he as an individual moments like that and it doesn't end didn't win. Um. You don't really think about it in individually. Who has a good game? UM? All that matters is, UM, what if it's a w or L at the end of the game. UM. And unfortunately we lost again. UM.

But Yeah, it's exciting for Joe. I mean, he works hard, um, and he deserves all the success that he's having, So I'm not surprised at all for the season. You guys are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL. This is really the only time I can remember where penalty is really played a huge role in costing a game. Yeah, we talked about it. Honestly, we talked about in the team meeting room that we knew that they were gonna be chirping a lot um, that they're gonna get penalized

a lot um, and unfortunately that we were. We were kind of the same the same team today. Um on the on the penalty side. And now time to hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent four minutes with lap right after the game. Has to be a frustrating one, coach. I mean, you get four hundred yards offense, but in the red zone five times in the red zone one touchdown down, three field goals and no points on on downs one time that that was a big factor in

the football game. Yeah, on the road, Uh, those are those four point players are critical. Um, we just didn't do enough, good enough job. You know, it's the first and second down. I thought we were efficient, did a nice job all game, but third down, the low red zone killed us. You win the turnover battle for the first time all year, you have two, they have one, but they get it. They get points. They get seven points on the pick six, So that that was an unfortunate,

unfortunate deal when they get you know, unscripted points like that. Yeah. Otherwise, I thought in the first half our defense had played well, you know, held them seven points and gave us a good good um put us in a good situation there, and unfortunately the second half they came out and took it to us and we we just weren't good enough. Third down was another area where Bengals three for twelve. They are seven for twelve. Baker Mayfields tried to touchdown

runs on third down they made. They had a third and nineteen they converted and you know, the pick six was on a third and twenty whatever it was. So, I mean, good happened for them on third down. Tough happened for the Cincinnati and third then that was a big factor as well. It's what it boils down to, you know, we've got to be better situationally, and today on both sides of the ball, we were not good enough. And then penalties was the other thing. I jotted down

eight penalties for ninety nine yards. They had six for thirty and pretty frustrating when they look at an interception on replay to see if there's a penalty involved, and you know, maybe there was. I don't know, I just I just feel like in the NFL, these games are gonna take seven hours if they if they start looking at every play and trying to determine if there's a penalty anywhere, it's difficult to know what they're what they're thinking.

So we just got to go with it. So obviously that coming into the football game, you were the least penalized team by yards, a totally yards in the National Football League, and they were they were worst. And then today that you know, to have it be unbalanced by my sixty nine yards, that that's not something you obviously expected. Especially in the first half. There were two there. First one on the drive right before the interception that, um, we got to do better job control in our emotions.

We had a good drive there set us back, and then we had another one right there before the half and we were moving pretty well. We had the blindside block that really hurt us. So we just gotta do

better job controlling our emotions and those situations. So I mean in the red zone, Um, I guess once you do have an issue with in the red zone possession, does it almost like putting more pressure on the next one to make up for the problems you had on the one priority to just try to treat everyone individually,

treat each one individually. You know. That's we had a first and goal from the two and we take a sack and you're not normally anticipating that, but it happens, you know, And uh so we just gotta be able to recover from it. Ended up kicking field goal there, and then we went four on the fourth down there a couple of possessions later and felt like we had a good look. We just got to execute it. So this is the is it seventh game or is it

eighth game? I've lost track now that have been decided by a score or less, you know, eight points or less, then another one by ten points or less. SA again, you know, it's like you're in all these football games. It's just a matter of not allowing them to make one explosive, you make in one more explosive. I mean, it's such a fine line in the National Football League, it is, you know, and we got we gotta find a way to make those plays and felt like they're

in the late fourth quarter. We created an interception, felt good about it. I know they took it away from us and called a penalty on us, but those are the plays we're looking to create. We gotta be the team that makes those plays in the fourth quarter that let's just go win the games. So I know when you when you asked for them to take a look at the middle screen that Landry had, I thought maybe initially Petonio was downfield. He wasn't when I saw the replay,

but man, it wasn't the tight end. It was a little looked like a little pick action going on there. Is that what you guys saw, Is that what you were looking at to see if that's what sprung the Landry in that middle screen? Yeah, they can't be walking down field before the ball scot And it's as simple as that. So what was their explanation? I saw that. I saw you out there, you know, leading the case to them, and it was it just deaf ears by them, or what kind of an answer did he give you

if any couldn't see it, couldn't see it. I can't even see it on the tape man. When it rains, it pours. Huh, Thank Zach. The Bengals finished with a season high four hundred and fifty one yards of offense, one seventy nine rushing and two seventy two pat sing. Baker Mayfield, who had seven touchdown passes and no interceptions and two wins over the Bengals last year, finished eleven for twenty four for one hundred ninety two yards, with no touchdowns, two picks, and a passer rating of thirty

eight point nine. And yet my only scoring sixteen points instead of thirty five points on five trips into the red zone. The Bengals fell to one and twelve. The twilight zone or red zone is where I began my postgame conversation with Laps. It's remarkable to me because on the season, the defense for the Cleveland Browns have allowed twenty two touchdowns and thirty seven opportunities fifty nine and a half percent of the time, better than a fifty

fifty proposition. They were given up a touchdown today, one time, you know, touchdown and five opportunities. That's twenty percent. That's almost forty percent under the norm for the Cleveland Browns all season long. So I mean, I don't know if it was to Cleveland what the Cleveland Browns were doing or what the Cincinnati Bengals weren't doing, but it wasn't pretty.

I mean, one touchdown from the one yard line, first and goal from the two yard line, had to settle for field goal, one touchdown, three field goals, one time, no points. Just can't win football games doing that. They were two for three. They get in the red zone three times and scored twice on a defense that was third in the NFL in touchdown percentage, and they scored sixty six point seven percent of the time testedown sort

of me that was a big deal. In the condensed short field where the Bengals defensively had a big eight edge, it wasn't there today, and the offensively struggles that they've had in the fad struggles were magnified. I mean they struggles not the word for it. It was worse than that. The Bengals have been among the least penalized teams in the NFL all year. Today they had ninety nine penalty yards.

But beyond that they were just gut punching penalties that wiped out big gains or in one case, took away an interception late in the game. It seemed like almost every penalty the Bengals had was devastating. Yeah, and on the season, they were averaging, you know, less than fifty yards, like forty some ode yards leading the NFL, and Cleveland was well over nine hundred, most in the NFL. And today they only had thirty you know whatever it was. Yeah,

thirty thirty yards on six penalties. So I mean, you give up almost a football field and penalties, that's that's never good. And you know it's gonna it's gonna in negate some some big plays, and it certainly did. I thought that was a big factor. I think third down was another one. The Bengals were three for twelve and

Browns were seven for twelve. And like you say about the penalties, I mean Cleveland made plays on third down, third and nineteen convert third down touchdown run by Baker Mayfield, third and a bunch for Andy Dalney throws a pick six. I mean it's like tragedy on the Bengals third down failures, big success on when the Cleveland Browns converted on third down, so that despair was huge. First time all year the Bengals win the turnover battle. They have two takes and

Cleveland has has one. Should have been three takes, but it wasn't. But it was two takes to their one. And if somebody had told me, you're gonna go up to Cleveland win the turnover ratio, then they have four and fifty yards and Joe mix is gonna have one hundred and eighty six of them on twenty six touches. I'm thinking that's a win. That's not a win by just one score. That's a win. That's a significant win. Didn't turn out that way. What was so effective for

Joe Mixon in this game? You mentioned the totals one forty six came on the ground on twenty three carries, three receptions for forty more. What were the Bengals able to do that led to that kind of day. Well, I'd say half a dozen or more of his twenty three carries. They were doing this little short toss where they toss it and they'd pinned the end of the line of scrimmage and they'd pull the center and guard. They either pull Miller and Hopkins or Jordan and Hopkins.

Those guys get their blocks, and Joe was reading it out really well. They got a lot of a lot of yards in that play. They ranted a few times as a play action passed because once you have your crease the running the football, now run the same look and throw behind it, which they did. So they did

some good things. I mean, it was a track meet between the twenties, but inside the twenty man they were dropping the baton and every time they're trying to finish the relay in the track meet, they were dropping the baton. In ten years in the NFL, in two years in the USFL, you undoubtedly had games like this where statistically you dominated. You probably looked up at the scoreboard during the course of the game and thought yourself, how aren't we winning? What is that like as a player to

have a day like that? Unbelievably frustrating? You know, it's um it seems like when it rains, it pours, and it's it's not just a you know, a thunderstorm, it's a fricking hurricane. I mean, it's not it's pouring. Mother Nature's treating you real bad. I mean, it's it is he's swimming against the current. You know, you're upstream all the time, and games like that. Next, a home game on Sunday against the New England Patriots, who are ten and three but have a two game losing streak after

falling to the Texans and Chiefs. How much do you want to bet that Bill Belichick utters were onto Cincinnati at a news conference this week. Now time for this week's fun facts conversation as we get to know the person under the pads. This week, it's a rookie offensive lineman out of Ohio State with a discerning palette for macaroni and cheese. Time for some fun facts with Bengals offensive lineman Michael Jordan. Born in the Cincinnati area before

moving away in middle school. Your grandfather was a Cincinnati firefighter. Your dad went to Roger Bacon High School. If you could have picked an NFL team to play for, would Cincinnati have been that team? It would have been Cincinnati Bengals. What Bengals memories do you have from your childhood? Let's remember watching Chad Johnson, Rudy Johnson playing a lot. T J. Hindsman's out of Carson Palmer, remember watching Andrew w Worth, just a lot of guys Pico who's still in the league.

Was absolutely crazy to think about. Did I read correctly that you met some of those star players at a playground when you were a kid? Yes? I did. I got to remember meeting Chad Johnson and t J. Hismsida when I was an elementary school at Zion Timple Christian Academy. There's a part that opened up right across from it, and the Bengals players, some of the stars were there, were visiting with Michael Jordan. You told your mom when you were six that you were going to play in

the NFL. Why did that become a goal at such an early age. I just, you know, I fell in love playing football when I first started playing, and you know, I see guys on TV looking like they're having fun. It just seemed like a bunch of fun move when I was a kid. So that's probably why it mainly became a goal of mine back then. You're a big man, now, were you always the big kid growing up? I was always the tallest. It wasn't necessarily the biggest when I

was a freshman to high school. I was sixty four and one hundred and eighty five pounds. You wrestled in high school. I saw a picture of you with some poor kid in a headlock. Did you like wrestling? I loved wrestling. Wrestling definitely helped me with the mental toughness of any sport I played, you know, whether it be football or whether it was track or wrestling itself. You know, I'm really thankful to go through that experience. You were involved in martial arts as well, right, Yeah, I was

for middle school. And do you have a black belt? Yes? I do. How did that help you? It helped me just become disciplined throughout my entire life. When you have goals that you need to accomplish, you have to be very disciplined. You have to tell yourself to how you're going to do it, and then you actually actually have to follow it. And I think taekwondo helped a lot

with that. So I mentioned that you were born and raised here until middle school before moving first to South Carolina and then going to a high school in Michigan. Your high school wasn't too far from ann Arbor, twenty minutes away, but you went to Ohio State. How did the folks in your high school take that news? My best friends, you know, they get They showed a lot of love, But other people, like teachers and stuff, they were always giving me tons of crat. You're always a

good student. What was your favorite course at Ohio State and why did you enjoy it? Probably either entrepreneurship or business management, just because it taught me a lot about myself and what I enjoy outside of football. I've read that you've taken courses in Chinese. What about learning that language appealed to you? To be honest, I didn't really wanted to take Chinese. I watch a lot of anime and I wanted to learn Japanese, but Chinese was offered out of school, so I just took it for the

four years I was in high school. I'm probably gonna try to hear out in the next year to probably pick up on either Japanese or Mandarin, just because of the TV shows I watched. We're doing Fun Facts with Michael Jordan. You were fourth round draft picked by the Bengals. Describe draft night. Um, it was really special moment. I had all my family, but I wasn't called when I was wanted to, but I still had a lot of

my loved ones there who supported me. And when I got the call from since Snap Bengals, I was actually asleep and the phone was ringing and I got really excited. So I've seen the video online of you getting the phone call, and you can hear a woman's voice in the background screaming, whoa, yeah, whoo. I'm not doing a very good imitation. Was that your mom or who was that?

It's probably either my aunt or my mom. I don't remember the person's voice, but it was probably it was My aunt was the one who took the videos, so if it was really loud directly, it was probably my aunt. But the voice was far away. It's probably my mom. I think it was your aunt. Yeah. Well, if we hear screaming in the stands go number sixty, well, no, it's probably your aud all right. A few other questions from Michael Jordan. What is your guilty pleasure? What unhealthy

food do you have a hard time saying? No too macaroni and cheese, no hesitation, No hesitation, mom's homemade version or another family member's homemade version or craft right out of the box. You know, my great Grandma's macaroni cheese the best I've ever had, and then second best probably my mom, and then third i'd probably saying a recruiting trip to Notre Dame, I really take macaroni very seriously. Clearly, despite that great macaroni and cheese that you're fighting, Irish

could not secure your services close. I mean, I was like I was, I was ready to commit right off, and I was like, all right, attention, recruiters have good mac and cheese. What do you like to shop for. I'm really big in the tech, so I like to buy speakers. I listen to music a lot. Just about a game chair because I play PS four a lot too, all right, forgive my ignorance. I have a thirteen year old son who plays a lot of Xbox. But what is a game chair. It's just a chair that it's

very comfortable. Minds has speakers in it so I can hear the game very loud and clear. But it's nice and it says Minds has a swollboment so I can turn through sixty. All right. Interesting to know. Aside from professional athlete, have you had any other jobs. I had an internship with Monster financials swimmer, just as an intern to a financial advisor. Did you learn anything that's useful? Oh? Yeah, I learned a lots, especially by managing money and what

you should do with it. Hopefully that'll come in very handy if you have a long NFL career. If you could meet anybody in history, politician, athlete, actor, religious figure, whomever, who would that person be. Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson, the king of pop, lifelong fan since day one, music cranking in the Jordan household all the time when I was younger, Mom a fan, dad a fan, or everybody in the family. You know, my dad, he's more to run DNC and

then my mom. It's kind of hard to say. I know when I was a little kid, my mom used always forced us to listen to country music. Shame on you, mom. All right, final question for Michael Jordan. You share a name with the most famous athlete on the planet. Did the basketball legend have anything to do with you being named Michael Jordan? I was known not to my father. It's his middle name, isn't it correct? How did you

feel about sharing a name with the basketball legend? You know, I was a kid, of course, as like that's exciting. But as you get older and you figure out who you are and you realize you're not that great at basketball, kind of six and you're an old lineman, so you couldn't wear twenty three, so there's no problem there. Yeah, enjoyed this, appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest

of the way. Thank you. That's Michael Jordan. Here's a quick invitation to join us on location this week on Friday afternoon from three to six, we'll be at Buffalo Wings and Rings in Oakley for the Bengals pep Rally Show, and we are tentatively scheduled to have Joe Mixon as our guest in the final hour. We'll have plenty of giveaways too. That's going to do it for this episode

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