Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast, the What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger edition, as we look back at the latest gut punch for Bengals players, coaches, and fans, a twenty
three all overtime tie in Philadelphia. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and in depth analysis from Dave Lapham, and the fun Facts segment returns this week is You'll get to know the person under the pads as I visit with rookie called Kareem. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Prime Sport, the
official hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since Memorable Villains. I've been listening
to the Talking Sopranos podcast lately. In it, actors Michael Imperioli and Steve Shirippa who played Christopher Moltisanti and Bobby Bacala on the Sopranos TV series are going back and doing a deep dive into every episode they've just finished season two. The podcast comes out once a week, so I listen to it and then go back and rewatch
the episode in any case. The big villain in season two is Ritchie Aprile, who is on my short list of greatest villains in TV history, along with Gus Fring from Breaking Bad and Ramsey Bolton from Game of Thrones. Actually about half of the cast of Game of Thrones. My least favorite villain of all time is Ben Roethlisberger. Just kidding. Now, let's get to the game. We're going to do the radio replace a little bit differently this week and break them down into three categories, the good,
the bad, and the ugly. The good was the Bengals passing game as Joe Burrow through for three hundred twelve yards, including a pair of touchdowns to a fellow rookie. Tightly bunched formation for the Bengals, Burrow fakes a hand off to Mixon, throws into the end zone, touchdown Tea Higgins in the back of the end zone, beautifully floated by Joe Burrow, and the Bengals take the lead with one twenty nine left in the half, first and goal from
the four. Burrow is under center, takes the snap, fakes to Mixon looking to throw, throws it into the end zone, touchdown Tea Higgins his second touchdown catch of the afternoon, and the Bengals have a chance to regain the lead.
That second touchdown pass put the Bengals in front by one point in the third quarter, but on the drive after that, following an interception at the Philadelphia forty four by Lashawn Simms, the Bengals had a first down at the Philly thirteen and had to settle for a field goal. One drive later, they had first and goal at the four and had to settle for another field goal. Turn either of those red zone opportunities into a touchdown and
the Bengals almost certainly win the game. Here's Tyler Boyd who had ten catches for one hundred twenty five yards. That's not how you're gonna win game, you know, Just keep driving and driving and getting there, like actually getting there five yards away, eight years away, ten yards away. Three point ain't gonna win in this league. Every week is going to be tough. But whoever found a way to score touchdown is going to be the team nine win, and that leads us to the bad. For the most part,
the Bengals defense played well. Philadelphia had thirteen possessions and only scored two touchdowns, but those tds came in the final seconds of each half. When the Bengals had the lead from the twenty nine, Wentz his back to throw the linebackers back into coverage. The throw caught by a wide open Ward and he runs into the end zone with sixteen seconds left in the half. What happened to
the Bengals coverage there? Wentz ready for a shotgun. Snappy has Miles Sanders to his right, three receivers left, one out to the right. Wentz has the ball. He's looking left from the fifty. Under pressure, Wentz now rolling right, being chased by Hubbard, Wentz will run five pylon touchdown. The touchdown with sixteen seconds left in the half came after Randy Bullock hooked to kick off out of bounds to give Philly the ball at the forty yard line.
The touchdown with twenty one seconds left in regulation to force overtime came after the Bengals got called for two pass interference penalties. While trying to cover rookie wide receiver John high Tower. He entered the game with one catch from minus two yards, and those penalties added up to twenty eight yards on Philadelphia's final drive. Each team basically had three drives in overtime without being able to score, and the game ended in a twenty three all tie.
Here are Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. I've never tied in my life, um so, so it feels strange for sure, but but I know it sure Zell doesn't feel like we won. Um that's what. That's what I can't tell you. And just so many, so many opportunities we had out there. Um, we just missed that one game breaking play there at the end, you know. And there were some some things from both sides, all three phases really that were positive. There's just no no game changing moment there that took
that game over for us. It'll never be about momentum or positive experiences to me. I'm about winning. Um, I expect to win. I know we expect to win. I'm no moral victories around here. This is a loss to me. I don't really know. We didn't win, and that leads to the ugly Burrow waiting for a shotgun snap, has the ball against the four man rush, gets hit from behind and its sacked back at Cincinnati's forty eight yard line. I'm third down at eight. Burrow under pressure and sacked
back at the forty five yard line. Burrow drops back to throw, try to kill a little bit of time. He's met in the backfield, and he's sacked. To end the half, a fake a handoff to Mixing, Burrow pump fakes and get sacked. He goes down as the safety Jalen Mills was closing in second and goal from the eight coming up for Cincinnati. Burrow has Mixing off his left hip, catches a shotgun snap, drops back to throw, pocket closes and Joe will be sacked back at the
sixteen yard line. Burrows under center on first and ten, stomps the right foot, sends Tate in motion behind him. Burrow fakes a handoff in trouble. Burrow trying to run and he will be pulled down for a sack in a one yard loss. First and ten shotgun snap play action fake Burrow in trouble, sacked by Graham at the fourteen yard line. One fifty five left in overtime, the Bengals at their own fourteen. Burrow under pressure sacked by Fletcher Cox, who beat Billy Price back at the six
yard line. Sack number eight. Yeah, it was ugly, all right. Eight sacks and ten additional hits for a total of eighteen QB hits in Joe Burrow's third NFL game. One particularly vicious hit by Malik Jackson knocked Burrow out of the game for one play. The wind knocked out on me for about ten seconds. They told me I had to go out for play. I was good after that. He was good after that. But the same can't be said of the offensive line. Here's Zach Taylor. That's something
we gotta fix right away. And I don't care what play your call, You're gonna have problems when you just can't blocking back for a second. And so that that part is frustrating, you know. So we just got to continue to prove and give ourself a better chance. The Bengals made a change up front during the game, as Fred Johnson, starting his second straight at right guard, got pulled for Billy Price. Lap asked Zach Taylor about it after the game, what do you do at the right guard? Position.
Fred struggled. You put Billy in there, Billy struggled. I mean that's the real problem, Marea. Where do you go from here? Yeah, we're trying to figure that out, and that's something to keep evaluating. They had better find an answer for the offensive line as a whole, because Burrow has been sacked fourteen time in three games. That's a
pace for seventy four point six sacks. The record for a quarterback in a single season is seventy six by Houston's then rookie and number one overall pick, David Carr. Here's Tyler Boyd. Do you just to see him take those hits. It's for him to go down and for him to get injured, no hurt. So it makes me want to want to fight whoever done anything to him, you know so. I mean, like I said, we gotta we gotta figure out way to protect him, and we gotta figure out way to make tough catches on iron
as well. It would help if they could run the ball. Joe Mixon finished with forty nine yards on seventeen carries. That's two point nine per lug. He was greeted in his own backfield on most of his seventeen attempts. We knew we were gonna have to get the ball in permeter against these guys. They gotta really stout front, you know, as good as we're gonna face this year, you know, And so they don't make it easier for you to run the ball. And so again that that's not what
we want from our run game. There's no question about that. Um, we gotta do better job there. After three games, the angles are o two and one, where they could be perhaps even should be two and one, and they have tied an NFL record they wanted no part of. They have failed to win their last fifteen games, decided by one score to tie the all time marks set by the Chicago Cardinals from nineteen thirty eight to nineteen forty one.
Time for some postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Well, that was different at twenty three all overtime tie in Philadelphia, a game it felt like like the Bengals had a million opportunities to win, and as a result, it's a tie that feels like a loss, no question. I think both teams feel that way. I don't think both teams were crisp binding stretch of the imagination and their execution. I'm not saying that they didn't give effort. You know,
I think both teams, you know, they weren't loafing. They weren't. It just wasn't that well played. And you know, I maybe there's a little bit of almost trying too hard, or or in a situation where I got to make a play, so I tighten up and grab instead of trust my technique in coverage, I grab and I have a you know, a pass interference penalty, or you know, I just don't run the route the route at the proper depth, or I don't pass protect and my three
technique the defensive tackle, it's on my outside. Joelda just blows up the football field like he's a free runner, and the quarterbacks has no opportunity. I mean again, football is the ultimate team sport. There's eleven pieces. If you only have nine or eight operating effectively, you're not going to get it done. You have to have all eleven or no more than one mess up. I mean, if ten, sometimes you can get by, but man, if you have multiple mess ups on the same play, you're in trouble.
Joe Burrow is sacked eight times. He was hit an additional ten eighteen hits on your quarterback. Yeah, I think that's what postgame press conference guys was saying. Eighteen was the pressure was not the sacks and hits, not just pressures, hits, actual hits on the quarterback. So again, right guard was I seventy one. I mean it was there was. They were in the passing lane on I seventy one, and
there was nothing that was deterring them. Start out with Fred Johnson at right guard not working out, Billy Price at right guard didn't work out. I know they've got Alex Redmon on the practice squad. Dan, I would put him in there yesterday. Alex Redmond knows, he has an understanding what they're doing. He's worked next to Bobby Hart, you know he's he's worked next to Hopkins. It wouldn't be that tough of a scenario. I know, can they trust them to stay healthy, That is a big issue.
You know that that trust has to be built up. But man, telling you the guy from a physical standpoint, he can play it, he can finish. He's one of the best finishes in football. I'd give it a shot. I mean, obviously they're still searching for answers at right guard. Why not try him as an answer? Yeah, honestly, I guess I expect that to happen next week against Jacksonville.
In addition to all of the pressure allowed, Joe Mixon carried seventeen times for forty nine yards, and on nearly every one of those seventeen carries he's dancing away from a hit in the backfield. It's going to be unbelievably frustrating to him. And you know the pin and pull stuff. I saw quite a bit of that today, but there was no pinning. You know, the pulling was happening, but the pullers were getting knocked off at times by penetration.
The pins not pinning people. So, you know, the penetration in the backfield and Joe Mixon having to make cuts time after time after time in his own backfield have to be a big, big source of frustration. I mean, upfront have to operate at a better level of efficiency. All five guys, not just every single play. Four happens doesn't happen, the fifth three happens doesn't happen too. It's just it's just not going to work. It has to be. I've said, there's a million times. I'm going to say
it again, it's like a fist. When you make a fist, there are five components to a fist. Curl your four fingers, wrap your thumbs. It's like an involuntary reaction. And the five members of the offensive line are playing together. It's like making a big, strong fist. If four and you don't have the fifth, you don't have a fist. You know it's you're a lot weaker. They have to start operating and functioning as a group. The Bengals signed a mid level free agent to help the offensive line, Xaviers
to a Philo. Unfortunately he's injured right now. They didn't draft an offensive lineman until the sixth round became a d Energy. I hate to look ahead already to next year's draft and next year's free agency, but they're going to have to prioritize whether it's their first draft pick, whether it's all the money they spend in free agency.
I'm giving Joe Burrow protection no doubt. And you know what, you don't really want to do this because I know ad Energy needs some time to develop, but athletically and physically, from what I saw a training camp, he cuts the mustard you know, and maybe throw him in the mix. And in the uncertainty that you know, the equation the camp he solved at right guard, maybe he's maybe it's a lot of pressure on a rookie. You know, that's a six round pick, a rookie offensive lineman who has
played more tackle than Garb. But we played guard at the Senior Bowl and operated well there against good players. You know, at this point, absolutely nothing would be off the table. Nothing would be off the table as far as I'm concerned, because it's just not happening at that spot. I went back this week and looked at video of the last time the Bengals played the Eagles. They beat Carson Wentz his rookie year. The final score was thirty
two to fourteen. Andy Dalton had a great game that day, passed for three hundred and thirty two yards pass a rating of one thirty. And when I watched the video, the time that he had to throw deep balls was incredible, time and space pocket was wide, nobody in his face, and it made me, you realize that when we keep talking about this stat about burrows, you know, poor passing completions on throws twenty or more yards down the field. How many times has he had a ton of time
to throw. I mean there have been times he hasn't been at but where he was really comfortable back there, stepping into the throw, not worried about getting a hit at the end of the play. Not only time, but like you said, space and vision. If the defensive tackle is crushing the middle of the pocket every time, you don't have time to forget trying to find open receivers. You don't have time to get out of the way. I mean, you know, at times, it's just it's just
tough to watch. You know, he's he did a piro Wett out of the pocket, you know, to try to extend and create a play, and it worked out. All they nullified it by te Higgins stepping out of bounds and being the first guy to touch the ball when he stepped back in. But then he's piro wetting in the pocket. When you have a quarterback that has to turn and spend I mean, if he gets hit when he's got a right leg planted in the ground, pirouetting or whatever, and he gets hit in the lower leg,
it's acl you know, it's like shredding ligaments. I mean, that stuff scares the crap out of me. I mean, they're more he's more vulnerable there in that pocket trying to do some of the things he's doing to avoid contact than he is outside in space, and it's starting to really be scary. You don't want guys at your feet. You don't want guys. I mean, I'm if I'm a quarterback.
The way this pocket is collapsing in the middle. When you throw the football and you follow through, you don't want to hit a shoulder, padd a helmet and break your finger, break your hand. We don't ask Kenny Anderson one year by that happening. You're throwing a football and he follows through in a preseason game and he clips his index finger, you know, on a helmet and is done for you know, the first six weeks of the
season whatever, and we're done. You don't want to see that happen, you know, because somebody just gives up too much penetration in the pocket. I mean, that's the first step. The first step is solidifying the interior of the pocket. You know. Look, I'm not saying that it's perfect. Jonah Williams got beaten early. He got beaten badly, quickly, and left. But he was fine the rest of the game. And that's what you want to see. You want to see a guy compartmentalized. Okay, what did I do wrong? Yep,
I leaned my head. I ducked my head. I leaned forward. Trouble didn't do it again rest of the game. Man, inside, it's like, okay, let's pull this guy. Try this guy. And as a coach, it's got to be, you know, disturbing to say the least. I mean, you're trying to find an answer. You're scrambling to find an answer, and there's no answer at this point to be found. That's why I think, Man, I have a feeling, that's why Redman's back. Redman's on the practice squad. Redman could be,
you know, elevated quickly, quickly. Let's run down some of the blown opportunities in this game. Eagles first possession, the Bengals come up with an interception Logan Wilson off the tip ball by DJ Reader. Bengals start at their own forty four three and out, get nothing to the second quarter, like zerk Son with a nice punt return fifteen yard penalty at the end of the return. They start at the Philly thirty eight, don't even pick up a first down,
settle for a forty eight yard field goal. Then once they started moving the ball in the second half, first down and ten at the thirteen yard line, have to kick a field goal. First down and goal at the four yard line, five yard penalty from there, wind up kicking a field goal. And that's the game. I mean, when you have that many opportunities, even either close to midfield or first in goal or first and ten inside the red zone, you can't come away with three or
nothing and win, no question about it. Ball game. You know, case closed. And when the Eagles at the end of the first half had an opportunity in drove and getting the red zone touchdown at the end of the football game, when they drove getting the red zone, had to have a touchdown. The Bengals lost this game in the red zone. I know it's a tie, but they should have won the football game. They didn't get a win, get a loss. They did not get the win though because of the
red zone. The red zone failures negated the turnover. And you know, to me, this turnover stuff is starting to get old because the Cincinnati Bengals with this turnover ratio stuff. It's it's it's it's almost mind boggling, Dan. I mean, their their their numbers. Uh. In the red zone situation, it's crazy. They're like, oh and eight when it's when it's negative. I do know that. I think they're one
in twelve. Now for the turnover margins when turnover margin when it's plus, they're one in twelve when it's plus. So they keep saying, when the turnover ratio and win the game, what the hell one in twelve? I mean, come on, man, you know when they won one game when it was even and oh and eight when it's when it's minus turnovers, it's almost like it's inconsequential to the outcome of the football game. Now, league wide it's
very consequential, but to this football team, it hasn't been whatsoever. Now, now you had to tie to that mix, you win the turnover battle, You're won eleven and one who raise the flag? All right? Realistically, tying is better than losing. It doesn't feel like it right now, but it is better than taking a loss. And for that reason, I will at least give the defense credit for the very end of the game, because they've got to be demoralized. At that point, Joe Burrow just got sacked deep in
his own territory. Philly gets the ball back at their own forty four, with one twenty six to go and with a chance to move within the field goal range of one of the strongest leg kickers in the NFL. They get the stop. They force a five yard penalty. When Philly lined up to try a fifty nine yard field goal and then sixty four yards away, they elected to punt. Yep said, I'll kiss the sister. Get those lips ready, put on some lip bomb. I want that
kiss to be right. But I mean, you know, it's it's like, you know, and Dan, I've experienced this as a player. I remember going on to start a season and we're, you know, just close in some games we can't finish, just can't finish. We start O and eight and we're getting killed, getting killed by media friends, I mean, my neighbors. I'm driving the neighborhood with my lights out. Didn't want to see neighbors at night, you know. And I didn't go to the grocery store, didn't go anywhere.
So I know what it's like, and I hate to be a guy that's like, you know, negative about it. Because I've experienced it, I know how bad it is, and I feel badly, but you know it's your job to do with the analysis and all that, and I'm not gonna. I am not going to question the effort. I'm not gonna whatsoever. And in our own eight start, I questioned the effort some of my teammates and you know, the eye and this guy don't lie, and there were guys dogging it, loafing, don't see that. I mean, the
efforts there, it's just not coming together. So I feel terrible that I'm like banging on them, you know, for not finishing and winning close. Because I've been there, I
know exactly what they feel like. I remember many times sitting it, laying in my bed looking at the ceiling, and it's like a big movie screen and I'm seeing plays over and over and over again in my mind, and it's like, oh, damn, if I had just done this, if so and so had just done that, if somebody had just done this, And I know what it's like.
I know, I've I remember losing sleep about it. I remember it takes your appetite all those things, you know, and people say, ah, you know what are you You're making your money. It's not that it's it's personal pride. It's like, you play the game to win the game. You don't play the game to lose and tie football games. So,
you know, I don't want to be hypocritical. I don't want to be two faced, but you know, I have to do a job, and you have to give reasons why things are turning out the way they're turning out. But man, my heart bleeds for the guys, it really does. It sucks big time. Capital letters sucks. You know. The
only you don't have any friends. All you got your family, and sometimes, you know, you come home and try to kiss your wife and it was easier kissing the opponent when you tie them an indictment of land lap them many years after the fact. No, No, she was great. I'm just kidding. She was a Lynn was Lynn might have been the best, the best athlete wife that ever has been created. Remove the mic. Yeah she is, no question.
But honestly, I remember my kids. I remember my son coming home and kids at school are saying, you know, the Bengals suck. Your dad sucks, you know, And I'm like Dave don't fight those guys, you know, let it go, you know, and he's all concerned, he's all shaken up about that. Stuff sucks when it starts affecting your family and everything. I've been there, I know exactly what it's like.
I feel terrible for guys. I mean, right now, they're three twenty three and one in their last twenty seven games. That does not make it an easy life to live off the football field. You got nobody to blame but yourself as a team, and the only thing you can do is try to make more plays and do something about it. But I'm telling you, it sucks. I think that's a good way to end it. We'll look forward
to Jacksonville in a few days. I hear that if they play just a little bit better, take advantage of a couple of the opportunities that they didn't take advantage of today. You know, Jacksonville's no world beater, but it is disappointing. Dan. The Philadelphia goes, what did they have left?
What did they have? I was waiting for Vince Papali to come off the sideline with a band aid over's nose, you know, some tape and Vince Papali come running down there, cover some kicks and went, I mean they were down to nothing. They were down to nothing. Unbelievable. As Lap mentioned, a home game against Jacksonville is coming up next. The Jaguars are one and two and coming off an eighteen
point lost to Miami last Thursday. Let's end on a positive note with this week's fun Facts segment as we get to know the person under the pads from a member of this year's rookie class. Time for some fun facts. The Bengals defensive end College Kareem College. You are a coach's kid, and said, Juan said, you and your dad started your football journey together when you were six years old.
How did that journey begin? My dad, he was he was just actually just a parent at first, just I mean obviously just a parent, more so just a parent watching. And then I think something happened with our defensive coordinator, and um, they were like, you know, as any parent willing to step up to, you know, help coach. And you know he was the first one and even my coach. Ever since. Were you focused on football or did you try a wide variety of sports when you were growing up?
I definitely focused heavily on football, played basketball up until I was a sophomore in high school. I tried wrestling for a season in middle school and didn't go that well. I tried baseball that definitely did not go well. I went to I went to one practice and the coach told me I was too uncordinated. So I never I never came back. And then I tried swimming for I
did swimming for a season. I'm okay. The biggest thing with that was that I was always going from swimming practice football practice, and so I was always tired of that football. So I kind of gave up one swimming. And then last thing I did I threw shot putting discus in high school. We're doing fun facts with college Kareem. In addition to being an excellent athlete, you have excelled in school. Were you forced too or were you self motivated a little bit of both, but mainly the latter part.
I mean, my parents definitely, you know, just kept high standard as far as academics, but I mean the kind of just set that standard, and then you know, I kind of just embodied that after after that fact that ody high school unacceptable for me to get below my A and then I got the high school money. You know what, It's okay, Like the world's not gonna end, like I think, I graduated like a three eight five, so I was still I was still okay. I was
still good. So you almost went to Alabama and ultimately chose Notre Dame. Why, I mean, just looking at it, I mean, Bama is like I think, thirteen hours away from home, and you know, I come up from a pretty nice size family, so it would kind of be a little expensive for them to come and see me, you know, play or just you know, even playing a visit, just to come down, like you know, if they you know, messed me and they want to come see me. But
Notre Dame. Notre Dame is only three hours away. For one A great academic is great football, And it was you know, far enough from home where I had my own independence, but close enough. You know, I fundy and my family and they'll be there for me. We're chatting with Colin Kareem. You skipped the end of your senior year of high school and enrolled early in Notre Dame. Are you happy you did that? Yeah? I mean I was just having a conversation something about that the other day.
I mean, you know, I finished my so I played my senior season, but you know, following that, that last semester. Um. Yeah, so I left following that semester. I mean I felt like I didn't have really anything left to you know, give high school. I was already done with all my academic classes. So I would kind of not really just taking up space, but I feel like I would kind of be just you know, wasting my time when I could be doing something, you know, more productive Towards my career.
There are some great game day traditions and Notre Dame. What was your favorite? I probasedly the walk Honestly, when I was when I was a freshman, I'm like, you know, I'm always gonna have these, so not really you know, two pressed about it. But my senior year, I really, you know, took the time to take everything and you know, the smells, the sounds, you know, everyone's faces. So I mean that was that was pretty big for me. Do you have a miniature play like a champion sign somewhere? No,
but I need to get one. So early November your senior year, you tore the labor I'm in your shoulder. Yeah, you kept playing, you played the final four games of the season. With that, how bad was the pain and why did you keep playing? Pain was definitely up there, like skilled on one to ten at its worst during the games um like Boston College, it was really bad. It's like an eight point five nine almost definitely felt
like about to fall off. But you know, for one, I didn't no, I didn't know I threw my labor at first, so I didn't know until after Stanford. So after so probably about three weeks after I toured, that's when I found out. And then you know, I had one game left and I was like, you know, I've come this far, and I played on it, you know, for you know, result for these past the weeks, and I didn't know. After talking you know with the doctors and you know, the trainer, They're like, theres, you can't
make it worse. I'm like, okay, I might as well play, Like this is my last college game. I get to go out, you know with my guys. And so I still felt like, you know, I had something left in the tank, and I don't think I could you know, look myself in the mirror and at the end of the day knowing, you know, I had something left and didn't give it to my team. We're chatting with college Kareem. You majored in business, minored into art combined the two,
and you have an art dealer. Could you see yourself buying and selling arts some day? Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely can see that. I mean, I want to try to start that, you know, sometimes soon, probably within like the next you know, two years on. I started trying to get more into that, and then you know, I start getting you know, the front of my career. I start I want to start, you know, doing more with that, and then you know what, I'm done, do that full time.
Are there any artists in particular that you would like to purchase a piece of their work? Keep Harry Definitely, definitely, He's one of my favorites. Um to second contract, Yeah definitely. Yeah, well yeah, definitely definitely I want to keep harrying piece. As part of your senior art project of Notre Dame, you did a huge self portrait in a pop art style, four feet by five feet. I've seen a picture of it.
It's pretty spectacular. You are in the middle kind of an action shot from your Notre Dame playing day, surrounded by bright pop culture pictures and then images around it. How did you feel that turned out. I was happy with it. I mean it's not really for anyone else but me, so, I mean that's not pretty selfish, but I mean I made it a kind of commemorate my experience at Notre Dame and you know who makes like
what makes me so? Like in the background on one side, it's a scarpet of my mom, you know, has had I think before we were like before us kids were even born. Then a pattern of the time my dad game. He's on the left as you're looking at yeah, on the left, and then a bunch of different you know, characters and you know, a little things that you know, mean a lot to me. Like I said, I thought it was pretty spectacular. But I do have one issue with it. What's up with the Baltimore Ravens logo? Okay,
so it's not a Baltimore's Ravens logo? Okay, So my literally team was the south Field Ravens, so that was that's what it was for. Yeah, I feel much better about it now. Yeah, we're chatting with Colin Kareem. I know the game on game day, you covered your face and eye black similar to Hall of Famer John Randall. Why and do you plan to continue doing that in the NFL? Yeah, definitely continue. I don't want to continue doing that NFL. But I feel like that's just like
you know, my different person out. Like I put the you know, base paint on it, it's just you know, I'm turning to a you know, a different beast, and so like like at that point, like once I put it on, I've already I usually already have my pads on, already taped up. So that's like, you know, my final stuff in my preparation before you know it's tigned to play. So like that's kind of like the the final thing before you know, I'm like ready to go. So that really gives me my game mode. Is it a pain
in the neck to put on it off on? No? Yes, yes, it takes. It takes a while. I mean because I watched my face my face pretty thoroughly, and then like the next day I'll still have like five blacks on one of that. I thought, you know, I cleaned, but it wasn't describe your draft. That experience. It was a good experience. I mean I thought I would go somewhere, you know, Day two but you know, I wasn't you know,
two upsets. I knew you know, either way, you know, whether you know I got drafted or I was a free agent, I was going to make an impact wherever I went, so I wasn't too stressed about it. You're from the Detroit area. Who is your favorite athlete growing up? Ben Wallace? Ben Wallace, Oh, my guy. I love watching him play pistons, do the dirty work guy. Yeah, definitely, And honestly, when I played basketball, I try to play like him. Definitely did have the skill set like him,
but the physicality was there. So at this early stage of your NFL career, what are some of the things you are enjoying about being a professional athlete? I said, The biggest thing I'm enjoying is just, you know, learning from the vets and just having the you know, the older guys and the like I said, the vet them pushing me just to be better because you're at a level excuse me, where everyone's the best, and so it only forced your game to excel. And that's probably the
most fun thing about this whole experience. He wrote a book in third grade. Yeah, it made an interesting prediction. What did you predict? At that age, I predicted that I would be in the NFL at that time, well, at this time and the Super Bowl sixty I was gonna win MVP. I don't know. I don't know how I figured out the timing and how it lined up, but it's actually obtainable. It's kind of cool. So super Bowl sixty would be February of twenty twenty three. That
would be your third NFL season. So third grade, you did some excellent math. Yeah, and this is legitimately possible. Yeah, definitely is definitely. I want to definitely want to try to make it happen. All right, you are off the hot seat. I appreciate you doing this. Yeah, no problem. Thanks to college Kareem. And here's a quick reminder to join Lap and Lance McAlister for Bengals Line Monday night
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