Bengals Booth Podcast: Sharp Dressed Man

answer those questions and more. Then it's the greatest debate in these parts since do you cut or twirl your Cincinnati style chili? Are you team Sewel or team Chase? When it comes to the Bengals first pick in this year's draft, if your team pits, you'll have to wait until next week. On this episode of the pod, you'll hear from PINEI Suel's head coach at the University of Oregon, Mario Cristo Ball, followed by Jamar Chase's position coach at LSU,

Mickey Joseph. Both conversations are loaded with interesting nuggets. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer Refreshed the game. And here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since a New Masters Tournament video game. Hello friends.

I'm not much of a gamer, but I think that's about to change after last week's announcement that EA Sports is coming out with a new, incredibly detailed video game featuring Augusta National. Not only will we be able to virtually play the course with every Dogwood and Azalea authentically recreated, but will even drive down Magnolia lad. It's certainly the

closest I'll ever come to playing Augusta. He doesn't know it yet, but I've got a fourteen year old son who is going to get that game as a present, whether he wants it or not. I might even allow him to play the game with me. Now, let's get to football. Back in January, the Bengals announced that they will literally have new stripes this year. They are changing their uniform for the first time since two thousand and four.

Today on Bengals dot Com, the team posted a fantastic video about the history of their uniforms, along with the announcement that their new look will be unveiled on Monday. To give you an idea of what's gone into the process, I spoke to the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement, Elizabeth Blackburn. Elizabeth, let's start with the why. Why did the Bengals decide it was time for a new look. The process to change your uniform is quite a lengthy process.

So well I have seen make comments about let's change, let's change now, or let's change because we got a new quarterback. It's actually a multi year process. But even with all of that said, we knew that we hadn't changed our uniform since two thousand and three, and I believe this predated my arrival. But when we went through the coaching change, it felt like it had been a while since we changed our uniforms and it was time for a new look and a new uniform to accompany that.

Next chapter in Bengal's history, tell us what the process is like. Do a bunch of people submit designs or do you pick a designer who submits a bunch of concepts.

So the NFL is partnered with Nike so we work with Nike to redesign the uniform, and the process starts with a brief where the team explains what they're looking for and from their Nike works with their team of designers to come back with options and go through a process where we've given them the brief, they come back with design to you go through a few iterations back and forth. I like this, I don't like that, and ultimately that's how you land on the final design. So

describe what the Bengals were looking for. Fans and players love our colorush uniform because it is sleek, it is bold, so we wanted to build on that. In addition, we were factoring in some elements of the existing uniform that

we knew were kind of ready for an update. So combining some particular pain points on our existing uniform that we're frankly in style in two thousand and three, but style has changed since then, it was kind of eliminate some of these particular pain points with the broad goal of achieving a sleek, timeless, iconic, bold design. We're talking to Elizabeth Blackburn, the Bengals Director of Strategy and Engagement. I've been amazed by all the cool designs that fans

have posted on social media. There's some really talented people out there. Was that the case for you as well. We are not allowed to use or look at fan or other creative input. It has to purely be through Nike. Either's like a proprietary element there. But so I haven't looked too too closely, But I enjoy seeing our fans post and comment enough to a appreciate the talent you just mentioned. I mean, it is amazing how many of our fans are so talented in jersey swaps and creating

new concepts. It's amazing. I also, just through comments, have you seen some of the particular or pain points I would describe them with our existing uniform? And I hope that fans are relieved to hear that the organization echoed some of those opportunity areas to make the new uniform less blocky and more sleek in the new design. So

how did you make the final choice. It's funny because as you go through the process, honestly, by the end it's almost a little anticlimactic because you are finessing over the tiniest little detail and then finally you just have

to be done. And I think For me, I was very involved in some of those tiny little last minute oh make it just a little bit this way, and it took me a little bit of time between yep, okay, deadline, this is it, and then if you are often doing other things, and then several months later when we saw the first prototype. It was exciting to see the final design and I hope everybody feels as excited as we were when we got to unbox it for the first time.

How many versions and color combinations will there be with a new uniform? So there will be three different jerseys in three different pants that give us at Max a combination of nine, but we'll work with you know, the team to decide. I'm not sure we'll really plan to use and fans, we'll see all nine of them this year. There's like one that sort of really just is meant to be together. What about the possibility of throwback uniforms

at some point going forward? Throwback uniforms are a possibility going through the new uniform design and process. For this year, we just wanted to introduce our new uniforms and really showcase our new uniform and the new uniform combinations we just talked about for this year, So that's where and why fans will only see three jerseys this year and

no throwback. It is something that we're thinking about for future years because the league has a lot of rules on the uniforms, and that's why fans, we hear you and we know you want that white helmet, but right now, by rule, we're only allowed to have one helmet. The NFL rules also stipulate that you can have up to but no more than four jerseys. We'll have three this year, and for future years we can keep a fourth jersey on the table. We'll have to explore that the helmet

is not changing. Did you consider changing helmet? We did a little bit when I joined in on the process. I wasn't there since the beginnings. I don't know if it was halfway or frankly later because it's so many years. So I was coming in probably at like the seventy percent mark, and we were still toying with a very minor tweak to the helmet that honestly, when I saw

the initial deck, I didn't even notice. And because our helmet is so iconic and it's sleek, and the only modification they were suggesting to me lost some of that sleek element that really I think pairs nicely with the new uniforms. You think of a tiger, you think of a sleek, beautiful animal, someone ferocious, and the minor tweak on the helmet made it just feel a little clunky and didn't feel worth it. We will get our first look next Monday, April nineteenth. This is very exciting stuff.

I appreciate you for taking us inside the process. Thanks Elizabeth, Thank you Dan. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. On Tuesday, I decided to take a look at mock drafts that have come out in the last two weeks and found fifteen on ESPN, CBS Sports, NFL dot Com, Pro Football Focus, and Pro Football Network.

Six have the Bengals selecting Oregon offensive lineman Pinney Sewell with a fifth overall pick, Six have Cincinnati taken LSU wide receiver Jamar Chase, and three have the Bengals going for Florida tight end Kyle Pitts. We'll get to Pitts next week, but today it's more expert testimony in the

teams Sewell versus Team Chase debate. Up. First, I recently spoke to Oregon head coach Mario Cristo Ball shortly before Bengals head coach Zach Taylor, offensive line coach Frank Pollock, and director of player Personnel Duke Tobin traveled to Washington to watch Piney Sewells pro day. Look, let's start with the recruiting process. Do you remember first hearing about Pinay

and what were your initial impressions of him? Well, I remember it very vividly where coach Joe Salivair, defensive line coach, we had just gotten near to Oregon as comes from the University of Alabama, where coincidentally the recruitment of your other tackle, Jonah Williams, which is for another day in time, but we could certainly that will be if I want

to talk about too. But my man Joe Salavea pulls out a video and he shows me the video of his neighbor's son, the Soul Family, and how he's playing offensive line over in Utah at Desert Pines, and I was like, whoa that is? That is some uncommon power and explosiveness and athletic ability. We have to recruit this guy, and that's how it started, and that led to a very just whinding, crazy, fun, exciting I would say, this an incredible journey of a recruiting process and the rest

is history. How did you sell him on coming to Oregon? Well, we were just real. You know, we had fount that we had established a really good offensive line process while we were at the University of Alabama, and that was a process that we were bringing over here. You know, it was one that you know, the system that we played with played in at the University of Miami and carried over a large chunk of that to to Alabama and then continue to tweak it and brought it over here.

And that the offense and this, I would say, the culture was going to be set around what we do upfront, and it starts with the offensive line and the defensive line, and that he could be a difference maker. And we said it in a recruiting sense, we said it in a very real and honest sense. And I think he saw the vision. He saw the vision and that there was some work to be done, but he jumped in full brottle and he made a tremendous impact of historical

run here both in the eighteen and nineteen season. We are talking to Oregon head coach Mario crystal Ball. He started for you as a true freshman at the age of seventeen. It was a month before his eighteenth birthday. How quickly was it apparent that he could start right off the bat? Well, it was I would say practice five. When in practice one you knew, I mean they were he was knocking guys around. I mean he was. He grasped concepts so easily, just very natural, very instinctive. But

when it really hit, it was in the office. The line coach out there can appreciate. You know, he's we're running power passed, and we was he was playing right tackle. He was playing right tackle, and thought that would be a good way to kind of, you know, let him get adjusted and progress. And during power pass, as he's locked into a double team, he felt something kind of hit his his ankle and you could see him he's

engaged in the block. He looks down and he sees the guard somehow I got tripped up on his way to pull for the defensive end. And here's a seventeen year old freshman in practice five feels that sees that realizes that Okay, that guy's on the ground. No one's going to block the defensive end. So he presses out the double team, maintains presence on the double team, and gets a hand out there to block the defensive end

long enough to get the ball off. So that's like the type of intuition, the type of I don't know, spider sense that a tenure NFL veteran has. So that just it blew us away, and it made us realize, Okay, this we knew about the ability, We knew about the desire, the want to. But now when you combine these type of instincts, this level of football IQ without ability, we're gonna is gonna be a special, special one. I spoke to an NFL draft guru who gives Penney very high

marks but says that he needs to get stronger. Is that fair? And is there anything else that you think that's really obvious that he needs to imp He's the best lineman in college football and it's not by a little and the fact that he's what is he now twenty? His body is getting stronger and stronger and strong and I think when you guys see him work out at the upcoming Pro day and the combine, you're gonna see a three hundred and will probably be down at three

thirty five, three thirty two. He's gonna look like he's three hundred because he's lead, he's explosively's strong, he will he already has great strength, and it's gonna get even better because he's so young, like he's just beginning to develop. I mean, this is like, this is a guy that's on a different level type of track towards towards greatness and prominence in the NFL. So I'll feel very confident where he is and where he's going. Our guest is

Oregon head coach Mario crystal Ball. You've been quoted as saying that Piney is the best overall football player that you've been around. Now, you just had Justin Herbert, You played on national two championship teams at Miami, you coached an Alabama, So that's saying something what lifts Piney to that level. Yeah, I've had a bunch of my former players just kill me on that one. But it's because there's so many that are up there. You mentioned Justin.

I mean again, you know some of the guy on your own team right now, there as good as it gets um pine, as young as he was, and you're looking at a guy that really could have spent another year in high school. Right, was almost a great ahead? Is that when you combine that type of power athleticism.

Do you watch film, he's rarely ever ever on the ground that type of balance you believed to slide anchor be that light footed but heavy handed, have that type of flexibility in your hips and ankles, understand the intent of a play hat position, what the guys around you are doing, and when you play that hard to finish and knock people back. Um, it's just it's rare. It's it's elite. You know, it's one hundred percentile. And I

just what can I say? If the guy in his second year in college football won the Outlet Trophy at ninete, think about that, and he was having the best offseason in his life before our season was canceled and then later restarted. So I don't think it's it's understood how incredibly advanced this guy is. And but the more they watched him they realize what his ages. You're just not going to find a better prospect. I really don't think at any position. But again, and look, I get it.

I coached the guy, So people say, well, he's biased, Like I've been around and been lucky. I've been lucky fortunately around great players. This guy is as good as it gets. And again just getting started. And I had forgotten about your ties to Jonah Williams from your years as an Alabama assistant. So if the Bengals wind up selecting Pinet, if he's still there at number five and Cincinnati takes him, how would they be set with Jonah

Williams on one side and Pinnay at the other. Oh my lord, are you to me those two guys right there? Because Jonah was I've always you know, if there's parabol coach to be talking about Jonah the best I have ever seen, because I recruited Jonah as hard as any human being you can ever imagine, and then try to

match that into recruiting Pinay because they're game changers. I'll never forget watching Jonah out of practice when I flew out there to fulsome California and it was in shorts and helmets, but the guy was going full speed as if it was a patch as heavy handed, great balance and power. If you have those two guys at tackle, I you know again, I am in college football. I don't I don't get to watch as much NFL footballs

as I would like to do to the scheduling. But I can't imagine I haven't been around better tackles than that. You know, Camp Robinson and those guys are you know, Bryan McKennis, He's are just the top of the food chain. Guys. Last thing for Oregon head coach Mario Cristo Ball, years from now, when you are speaking at an Oregon function and telling the alums a story about pinay sewell, what will you tell them? What will be the h the

message message you want to pass along about him? The recruiting process was driving him crazy, which in turn drove us crazy. He was really hard to find, you know. And the final, the final piece was that I wasn't allowed to go see him anymore because college rules, once head coach sees and visits a guy can't go back. So our GA and our defensive line coaches very close to the family that were actually neighbors an American Samoa um,

they went to the house. And the final piece, the final tipping point is our GA actually put on our mascots part of the to help tip it over. And I don't know if it upset Piney or if it got him to heed, but all in all it is I don't know, it'll be more of a story as it is the relation with that family, and I have

a feeling that well, I don't have a feeling. I fully am fully confident that in a couple of years of you and I we're probably having a similar conversation about his brother, who was a freshman All American linebacker at six foot three two unter sixty five pounds. So that sounds like the Lee Corso recruiting technique, bring the duck head and pull that out if you need it.

At the time it was okay. I don't know if you could do that anymore, but here it was a great recruiting process, and certainly blessed that that family allowed us in their lives and it turned out like it did. Coach, I know you've got a really busy schedule. We appreciate your time and thanks for the insight on Piney Sewell. I appreciate you have me and I wish you guys a great draft. That was a pretty compelling case for

Team Sewell. Now it's Team Chase's turn as we visit with LSU wide receivers coach Mickey Joseph, who incidentally is the older brother a former Angles defensive backs coach and Denver Bronco's head coach. Advanced Joseph, coach described Jamar Chase as a person, you know, a great kid. Really enjoyed coaching him. You know, take the shirt off his back and give it to you if you need it. You know. It's just always um always is always is willing to

help people, you know what I mean. When when when it comes down to his teammates, you know, he you know, he always treated him my damn with brothers, you know. And that's one thing you love about him and his family that they're good people and they they're really they're really just the heart that they have to love, the love that he has and his offers teammates and people around him. He's a great kid. What do you think

are his greatest traits as a wide receiver. He plays with power, And when I say he plays with power, the way he catches the ball, the way the way he wants he touched the ball once he turns into a runner, the way he puts his foot in the ground as a route runner. Everything he does with power, he's releasing off the line of scrimmags, press coverage. It's power is strength, and it's twitchiness with it, and it's

there's a red track that you twitch. You like this, but you play with so much power because usually power guys are not twitchy, you know, and he's a he's a power guy, but he's twitchy also, so you know, he's an outside guy that he can release press, you know, if he's an outside receiver, you know, but also you can put him in a slot and he's twitching enough to run option routes and things of that sort. We're talking to Mickey, Joe's at the wide receivers coach at LSU.

What did you notice in the chemistry between Joe Burrow and Jamar a couple of years ago. Well, one thing about Joe, and you know, you said we missed that he was always in total control. They were always they were always on the same page. You know, they'll do some things in the game and it'd be off. It'd be of course, you know, but you know they'd worked on it. If you look at the one play with from Alabama with Jamar couldn't get inside on a glance. He just broke it up to feel and turn it

into like a run back, you know. And that's some him and Joe probably worked on him, you know, but they had really good chemistry. Joe can kind of look at him and no way, no way, He's going to be on the field at all time. And he had a good feel with Joe was going to place the ball a certain routes. That just the chemistry was just there, you know, with with with Jamar and Joe, and it was you know, just you mean, Joe one one of

Heisman another one. Want the politic call coach. I know you would have loved to have him on the field last year. But what do you think he did for himself after deciding to opt out? Well, I think what happened, you know, you know, just if you think about it, if you think about with Jamar, you know, I thought he had a chance to rest his body, you know,

because he goes, he goes hard. He practice hard. Of you if you're to Washington practice leading up to the weeks that he opted out, you had never known that he was opting out. And I think it was more of just a family decision. Um, you know he did call back, you know, we week three and he wanted to come back because he stayed in school. Best think you knew he stayed in school, did he? He was still doing the school work, trying to make sure he gets his um gets his degree, which I was very

proud of him for that. But Ja Jamar just man just you know, just unbelievable. You know, the things that that that we missed when he wasn't there. But you know, like I said, I thought he became a He was no healthier. You know when he when he worked out, he looked good, his body looked good, he wasn't beat up. And um, you see the way he ran and he plays fast like that. So I think he's just about him testing off to Charleston because of the time that

he had off the rest of his body. Justin Jefferson obviously had a tremendous rookie year. What does that say about Jamara's potential ability to come right in in year one and succeed. Well, I always say this NFL five yard after six yards, you can't touch them. And Jets had an unbelievable year, you know, And I think, you know just because they were so used to being help, you know, twenty yards down the field, all the way

down the field. And I think, you know, the NFL group really benefits these kids because they're very explosive and very powerful and strong. And I think, you know, Jets, Jets had a great year, and I'm looking forward to see what Jamar is going to do in the league, you know, because I knew Jets had a great year. But you know, something I expected, you know, and it ain't too many people in the country can cover these two kids one on one, you know, one on one

because the things that they do. But the one thing they do well, they both can catch the ball. You know, they can catch the ball, and they can catch you know, they can bring in contested catches. You can be hanging on them and they still can bring the ball in. And they run great routes. You know, Jamara runs great routes. So those Jets. But like I said, Jamar's like he's more powerful. We're talking to Mickey Joe's if the wide receivers coaching that last year. Do you have a favorite

Jamar story, a favorite Mark story. Um, it's really human terms marshing. It was their freshman year and you know, and I was, you know, You're like, you know, you gotta break him in there five stars and you gotta break him in. And we're playing Florida, and you know a couple of things when when when when left went right, you know, and and I didn't play him as much.

And and when I coming out and I was coming out the locker room, I had um one of the coaches tell them and like, hey, the chase in the Marshal families out there waiting for you. I went back in and kind of, you know, I'm losing my tie because I know they were very disappointed that they didn't play. But it was it was growing pains for him the freshman year. And the funny thing about it that I told both sets of parents that if you trust what I'm doing with your kids, one day, we're gonna sit

back and laugh about it. And uh, and y'all gonna y'all all gonna be rich. You know, you're gonna have more money than you have now. And and at pro day we all laughed about that, you know, because they you know, they didn't understand. And I do take I do take my time with them, you know, I put them out there to see just so much I can

get out of them, you know. And I think that Jamara learned from that, Terrence learned from that that now coming in the door the rookie year, they they're not going to come in saying, oh, I don't have to do this ones, I'm just going to get open. They're gonna come in doing I gotta use my technique, I gotta run good routes, I got to see the ball,

I got to do don't lose the technique stuff. And I think they learned that from the freshman year when they came in they just going to put on natural ability. But now when we have guys like you know Greaty Waves here, you know from Folk here, and you know Stingley here, we got dudes here, you know. So I think they learn learn from that, and I think it's

going to help him. At the beginning of the NFL career, I spoke to Chris Blair, the radio voice of the Tigers, and he was telling me about the Summer of ten thousand Passes, where these wide receivers literally committed to catch ten thousand passes during the course of the summer. What does that say about the group that you've been coaching at LFU. Well, it was something that Joe Brady. Joe

Brady came in here. When Joe Brady came in, he bought it here and we asked the guys to catch ten thousand, ten thousand balls from spring up until to know, from the end of spring until the first until we report for training camp and um, and it was they they tried to do it, you know, I think some of them got up to like eight thousand. And we did the same thing this year right before spring ball. We get him three months to catch five thousand balls.

So we do we put you know, put emphasis and all that, and well we'll come back right after spring balls over Saturday when Sunday was stought. There ten thousand ball quests. So you came Joe Brady brought that here and I thought, you know, it was really good. It's not just catching catching ball. You can catch tennis balls, you know, as long as you're catching the ball, they can they can. We tell them they can be in the backyard with their girlfriend and she can get tossed

into tennis ball to him. Because it's a hand eye coordination that we're working on in hand flexibility being to squeeze the ball and have strong hands. And so the boys did that and that you know, so that's one thing that we do here now. But um, you know, he had to take your hats off to him. They was out there every day catching balls, and I think that that helped him. So Jamar is obviously going to be a top ten draft pick, and Terris Marshall could

be a first round pick as well. If he doesn't go on the first, he'll certainly be gone by the end of the second. What kind of an NFL prospect is Terris Marshall? Well, Terns. I think Terence is a kid that you know, he can play X, F or Z, he can play all three. And I think Terence is you know, real twitchy for a six six, two sixty three kid. He's got really good hands, you see, He's got long ball speed that he can go get the big ball. And I think, you know, he I think

with Terence, the Terns is on another football team. With just him, he would he would have been f you know, like you know, like Ceedee Lamp. He was the only one that oh YouTube, you know, go use. So the Terns had to play with Jamar Clyde justin you know, Thaddeus Moss, so he kind of you know, and we never had the first option second apptate. We just called plays, you know, we called plays and who helped a stoption st option. But at one point Terrence was leading the

country with nine touchdowns in three weeks. So terms best football's ahead of them. And I know last year, you know, on film, you know, he looked like he took some plays off, but you know he was. He was beat up sometimes, you know, because you know, practice hard and play, you know, and we you know, so but I think his best football is ahead of him. And I'm excited to see him because he's a He's a kid that can catch the ball and can run and can get open,

you know, but think about what he brings. He can play, he can play all three. He can play X position and F position and his Z position because he's played all three here in the l Ship. So I'm excited to see what Terrence is gonna do. Like all right, obviously I got told him last year about jets. I think these two kids are the top, the top in the top twnity drifts. You know, I know them other kids, but I look at those other kids and I'm like,

they don't play against the heat. These kids played against every week, you know what. I mean, one kid at Alabama deal, you know, But I just think that these two kids are big a statue and then they're strong, you know, and they're not going to dig out, They're not going to get knocked around. And in terms of you know, the terms of a kid that size who can do things like that, that's special. A couple more questions for Mickey Joe's if the wide receivers coach at LSU,

you referenced Thaddius Moss. The Bengals just picked him up yesterday, the day before this conversation. Do you think Joe Burrow can help bring out the best in Thaddius as an NFL player? I think I think he can't. And I'll tell people this. You know, Daddy's just probably one of the smartest football players I've ever been around. He's one of the kids. He's got some of the best hands,

he runs some of the best routes. But he's a I mean, he's an every down tight end, you know, He's an every down tight and like you can leave him in on third down he would pass block, you can run routes. You know, you see to catch you meet against Alabama, that's unbelievable, you know. But think about Daddy's statis and got some dog int and he's gonna

get after you. And I think, you know, just you know, just being around Joe again, that's going to help him also, and as another person that Joe trust, you know, because Joe really trust Daddy was your knew that was that that was Joe's safety, you know, safety that and he had to check him down. He was going to Faddy's new Faddis is gonna catch you, you know. So I'm proud of days. I'm excited for him, and you know, I'm having Joe trying to get the band back together.

Final question, coach, and I appreciate your time. If you pulled Bengals fans right now, I think there's a pretty even split. About half of them would like to see the team select Pinay Sue, the offensive lineman from Oregon. The other half are hoping they'll take Jamar Chase number five. Overall, you obviously are not exactly a neutral party here, but what would the Bengals be getting if they select Jamar

Chase with a fifth pick? I think I think you're getting the playmaker, a guy that not only can move to change, the guy that can get in the end zone when he is the red zone. He's a big time red zone threat. And I think, um, it's a guy Joe Joe play with, you know. And I think one thing about quarterbacks, they got to be comfortable with

the guys that they're around, you know. And these guys got chemistry together, You're like, you know, they played together for two years, so they kind of can look at each other and say, Okay, that's what he's about to do. And they trust in each other. And I think one thing with you more, you're getting the hell of a player. A kid that refused to lose. You know, he refused to lose. He never lost in playground, he never lost

in high school, he never lost in college. So what you getting you getting winners, you know, And that's part of that's part of any culture. It's about when you when you talk about college college programs, and you talk about NFL organizations, it's about the culture. You know, in the culture here to ell shoot that we win. And that's what those kids are gonna bring over that they're gonna bring over the attitude like, hey, any means necessarily we win in this game. And one thing had LSU

we always say, focus on winning the game. You know a guy there was that sense and they Kevin Carr brought that to us. You know what I'm saying that hey focused on winning the game. So here the LSU, we focus on winning the game. And that's what That's what Jamar is gonna bring to the table that he's gonna do everything in his power. Don't care if he's got to go block a punt, he's gotta run, kicks back, whatever he's got to do, he's gonna do to make sure his team wins the game. And one thing he

don't need all the credit. He just gets out there and he plays. You know, he's just gonna get out there and play. And I would love to see, you know what, all those kids back together because I know what those I know what that is. I always say that's points. You know with Joe Burrow and Daddy, us Mars and Jamar and Chase. Maybe you get Terrins down

the line and you know that's that's points. You know, that's points because you know the kids don't They're gonna find a way to get open and they're gonna find a way to win. Coach outstanding stuff. I can't thank you enough, appreciate your time and best of luck this year with the Tigers. Thank you, thank you. Good luck to you guys in the draft. Previously devoted entire episodes

of this podcast to Piney Swell and Jamar Chase. Next week, it's Kyle Pitt's turn that's going to do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game. If you haven't done so already, please subscribe, and if you have a minute, give it a rating or share a comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for listening to The Bengals Booth Podcast