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don't seem too concerned about anymore, the offensive line. I'll chat with Sam Hubbard and get his reaction to something that Chris Collinsworth recently said on this podcast that Sam is quote, one of the best football players that I've seen on tape. And finally, you know the faux segment, we'll get the latest on the Browns from Zack Jackson, who covers the team for The Athletic. The Bengals Booth

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the Final Four. Jim Nance recently announced that this year's Final Four in Houston will be the last one that he will broadcast for CBS, and the network immediately named Ian Eagle as his replacement. If you've heard Ian before as a guest on this podcast, you know that we are longtime friends, so I'm happy for him personally, but I am also thrilled to see a great broadcaster finally

get the opportunity to shine on a huge stage. Ian will do a tremendous job of calling future Final Fours, hopefully a few that include the UC Bearcats or insert your school of choice. Now let's get to my first guest, a guy who has certainly had opportunities to shine on a huge stage, as he's called seven Super Bowls and twenty three World Series. I met this guy when we were young minor league baseball announcers just getting started, and now he's one of the best play by play guys

to ever do it. My friend Joe Buck, Joe, it seems like you and Troy are having a ball doing Monday night football. I think sometimes change is good. Has change reinvigorated the two of you? It has, But let me start by saying, I remember those days in Triple A baseball. You had more hair. I had about the same amount of hair. I just have gone the hair transplant road and here we are in twenty twenty two. But thanks for that, and you're you're one of the best.

I've always loved listening to you, and I appreciate coming on. It's been a blast. I didn't know what to expect, you know. I think ESPN was always kind of that that dark cloud over on the horizon, like do I really want to go to ESPN because it Fox? They kind of left me alone, and in the best possible way. I loved every minute that I was there. But you're right, change has been great. I think it's it's given a shot of life to Boute, Troy and me. ESPN has

been great to work for. The games have been fun. And this is normally a month where I'm I don't know where I am when I wake up, and I don't know what sport I'm doing that night, But having just one game a week, it feels like stealing so it's been great and hopefully that comes through on the air.

It definitely does so. This past Monday night, during the Patriots Bears game, ESPN ran a promo for the upcoming game between the Bengals and Browns, and it was obvious how excited Troy Aikman was that Joe Burrow was coming up next week. He referred to him as an assassin. What do you think of Joe on and off the field. He's awesome and there are so many organizations that are

dying to have a Joe Burrow everywhere we go. You know, you look at one team after the next, there's a handful of guys that you know, the obvious ones, and then there's Joe Burrow, who's a stud on and off the field. I think he's a leader. I think he says all the right things coming off the game they're coming off of, which was I mean that that's them at their best against Atlanta and showing all those weapons on the outside, and Tyler Boyd has a big game.

Just when you go into a game and you know Dan when you're going to see a lot of offense. That's those are the fun games to call. So for a quarterback, like Troy, and the game's changed so much since Troy built his Hall of Fame career. You know, the statistics are crazy now with three hundred yard games, four hundred yard games by quarterbacks. But man, it's I

can't wait to go there. We've only had him a couple of times, and you know we've got him also late in the year at Buffalo against Buffalo at home, so this will be one of two and I can't wait to watch it. We're visiting the Joe Buck TV loves star Power. The Bengals have Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, te Higgins, Joe Mix, and Trey Hendrickson, whatever name you want to pick out. Do you look at the Bengals as one of the quote unquote sexiest teams in the NFL? I do you know? I mean, you know, they're the

AFC champs. I think people will kind of forget that. I know they don't dare, but around the NFL and everybody's got Buffalo Bills fever and oh my gosh, the Buffalo Bills. The Bengals are the reigning AFC champions, and you know, had every reason to feel good about that Super Bowl. I know they didn't get it done. But they were right there with the Rams. So yes they are. They are a sexy team. They are a star studded team, and that's what these networks latch onto. But I think

that's what the casual fanland latches onto. Why the NFL is so popular. I mean, it doesn't matter who they're playing. And I think it's good that it's a it's a divisional battle and all that, but you've got players that are on everybody's fantasy football team, and everybody salivates to coming off a game like they're coming off of. So give me star power, give me Burrow. We'll have cameras.

I know it's ESPN. Well if cameras all over him as he's getting dressed, let alone walking into the stadium. So yeah, that that stuff sells on TV. After the Row and two start, the Bengals have gone four and one since. Did you have any doubts early? And if so, are they gone? They're gone? Yeah? I think everybody would have doubts. You know, when you come back off of loss in the Super Bowl, all the changes on the

offensive line. That line seems to be getting better and better as they grow together and kind of mesh so yeah, I was like, man, this it wasn't just that they lost, it was the way they lost and how the offense looked. And then all of a sudden, here they are. So the any doubts I had are erased. And you know, I see this team as one of the top three teams in the AFC, and maybe the top two. I think that matchup with Buffalo is going to be like a champ game. I'm just hoping to God everybody stays

healthy between now and the end of the season. So the Browns have dropped four in a row. There's still four games away from Deshaun Watson coming back from his suspension. What do you think are a few of the keys on Monday Night? Well, everybody there is screaming for them to run the ball more. And when we've had the Browns, you know, they've got three running backs that are really talented. They are banged up a little bit on their offensive line,

They've got a good offensive line. When everybody's there, you know, yeah, they don't have Deshaun Watson. They do have Jacoby Brissette, which to me means you better concentrate on running the football. I don't know that he's the quarterback point in his career that you hang your hat on go He's gonna just take you up and down the field and win games.

They need to kind of go back to old school football, So I expect them to come in running the ball and you know, trying to keep Joe Burrow off the field. That's the other part of this equation. I think when you're playing Cincinnati playing Buffalo, you're playing Kansas City and that's the other team of the top three in the AFC. You're trying to keep that other guy off the field. So if they don't come in and try to pound the football, I would be stunned, just because of how

good Cincinnati is offensively. Joe, You've mentioned that Cincinnati Buffalo game a couple of times. That's the final Monday Night game of the year January second at pay Course Stadium in Cincinnati. When the schedule came out and you saw Bengals Bills early January, did you think this could be the game of the year on Monday Night football? I did. I mean, there are a couple that jumped out of me, but they were AFE West games, and I think the

AFC West has been a dud so far. Compared to what everybody thought it would be rams at Green Bay Christmas Week the Monday before Christmas, it was like, man, that's that's typically a game. I was doing a Fox and now we're doing it on Monday Night Football at ESPN. But that was the one. It's like, we're gonna build all season long, both on the field and in the booth to see what should be a hell of a game on that last Monday Night. So yes, that was

the one that I circled. I'm glad it's at the end. It's kind of that carrot at the end of the race that keeps you going all year. So you know, we got a long way to go between now and then, and again it's injuries that that's the only thing that scares me. But that's gonna be a great night. Final question for Joe Buck. Your dad was one of the great baseball broadcasters of all time, but he was also the voice of Monday Night Football on national radio for decades.

How did that impact your love of the NFL and your love for now doing Monday Night football? Dan I grew up in the back of the broadcast booth for baseball down in Saint Louis, a bush stadium. That's that was my playground as a little boy. But my dad took me on a lot of road trips and I was in the back of the booth and Monday Night Football when he was doing the games with Hank Stram. But I've told this a couple of times. When I

was a little kid, I was my dad was my hero. Was' until the day he died, still is to this day. But I used to go to those games, like my dad is the coolest guy going on the planet. He's doing Monday Night Football on the radio. And then they basically made a broom closet into the radio booth and I'm looking two booths down at Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford and Don Meredith and bright lights and yellow jackets and all that. It just like, man, I thought what

my dad did was cool. So he's been gone for twenty years now, he'd be over the moon that I was doing this and kind of made a family decision to change up my work life. So it's it's it's true. He was the voice of Monday Night Football for over

ten years, just on the radio side. And there was an article that somebody sent me a while ago where he was talking about the phenomenon that at the time people either loved or hated Howard Cosell, and everybody was turning down the volume on TV and listening to my dad and Hank do the game on the radio. You know, maybe they're still doing that. I don't know with me doing the TV with Troy, but hopefully not. We're having a blast and I know my dad would be really proud.

High lied. I have one more question. Monday night is Halloween. Will we see the yellow jackets on Halloween Night? Yeah? The problem is that that's kind of been that was our plan to the last couple of weeks. They gave us like kind of joke Monday night yellow blazers that look awful. I mean they are so cheap and so the stitching in it, the fabrics pulling it doesn't really fit well. The Troy's like, I don't know if we should wear those, you know, he's mister straight list. I'm like,

I'm wearing it. I don't care if you wear it or not. I may go to a thrift shop here in Saint Louis and by the nastiest seventies dress shirt with a fat wide maroon tie and just leaded rip. But I am wearing it. Troy can do whatever he wants. It'll be on me. I love it. Can't wait to see it on Monday night and I get to see it in person, which is going to be fun. Joe, I appreciate your time, keep up the great work, and thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, you keep up

the great work. I'll see him Monday. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Alta Fiber, future proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take your home, business, and community to a new level. Elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. Over the last two weeks, the Bengals have scored thirty and thirty five points and Joe Burrow has

put up insane numbers. Six touchdown passes, two touchdown runs, no interceptions, seven hundred one passing yards and a passer rating of one thirty three has appendeck to me and resulting weight loss is clearly no longer an issue and you don't hear much griping these days about the Bengals offensive line from fans and media. According to Pro Football Focus, over the past three weeks. The Bengals O line has graded as the fourth best in the NFL in pass blocking.

Here's my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. The offensive line improvement is significant and it's obvious, and I think it's health related as well. Elsie had back issues, didn't do much at training camp at all. You know, when you're in a situation where you can't take reps next to each other for all a training camp, which is what the situation was that they were facing there. You have Elsie had had the back issue, Alex Kappa had the core problem.

So the right side of the offensive line really didn't do much at all, you know, working with each other at training camp. So and then Joe Burrow's injury, you know, with the appendix appendeck to mey appendicitis that caused the surgery, the appendectomy. He didn't play too much at training camp. So you have those three components are major that it took him a while time on task, a few reps.

Joe Burrow and the opener against Pittsburgh was not the Joe Burrow that we've we've come to love Joe Burrow here in the last month. Is the Joe Borrow that we know and love. Same thing with LC, same thing with Alex Kappa. They've gotten healthier, they've taken reps, time on task, everybody's working together. I think I think that the health of Joe Burrow, the health of the offensive line,

the number of reps that they've taken. I can remember talking about the fact that I thought in later September they'd be better than they were in the beginning of September, and I think that was the case. Now that we're closing in on the end to October, they're playing. I'll tell you, Alex Kappa, he's playing good football at right guard. I'm telling his past protection is very, very good. And Elc cam Jordan is a is a great football player. He went down there against the Saints and just locked

him up. I mean that was his best game. So he showed what he still can do. And Kappa, now that he's healthy, he is he's playing good football. Alex ted Carris at the center position is showing, you know, the leadership and the ability that the Bengals holts when they signed him. So those three signings people were concerned about at the beginning of the season. Now that they're healthy and they've got some time on task and they've

established a little bit of rhythm. They're playing well. That group's playing pretty darn well, and I think it's going to continue. After being sacked thirteen times in the first two games, Joe Burrow, He's only been sacked eleven times over the past five The Bengals Booth podcast just presented by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets and sign merchandise up for grabs. Find both

inside the Bengals App. And last week's win over Atlanta, the Bengals allowed one hundred seven rushing yards on twenty nine attempts. That's three point seven yards per carry to one of the best running teams in the league. They'll need a similar performance on Monday night against the Cleveland team that features NFL rushing leader Nick Chubb. He's on a pace to run for nearly eighteen hundred yards this

year and averages five point nine yards per carry. Sam Hubbard is one of the NFL's best run stopping defensive ends, and I caught up with him this week. Sam, it seems like you are always doing something to get your body ready for game day. Can you give us a sense of all the things you'd do to get ready for the riggers of this job. I think going through my routine on a week to week basis to get myself to Sunday, to walk through it day by day would take too long. But I try and utilize every

every minute an opportunity I can. I think five years, I've had some time to just get my routine a little better every year, and that's what it's all about. James Harrison was here back in twenty thirteen. He estimated to us that he spent between four hundred thousand and five hundred thousand dollars a year. I'm therapists, acupuncturists, etc. Do you spend like a crazy amount of money just maintaining your physique. I wouldn't say more money, it's it's

I would say it's time and energy. I you know, I have a great massaas person his name is Jim Nabby that I work with, who is you know, my secret weapon? And also Chef Kim on my food. Those are some expenses, but a lot of us just spending time in the weight room, doing a rehab, prehab, recovering, sleep, going to bed early. A lot of this stuff that over time can get pretty tedious, but it's necessary as that evolved a lot in your NFL career. Yeah, definitely.

Each year I just try and get a little bit better, and I think now I'm feeling as healthy, strong, and as good as I can as I've ever felt going into later part of the season in my career or visiting with Sam Hubbard. I interviewed Chris Collinsworth before the Sunday night game in Baltimore. He said, I have not seen a better player on tape this year than Sam Hubbard. I'm going to ask you not to be too modest. Do you feel like you're all around game is as

good it's just about any defensive lineman in the NFL. H. Yeah, I don't want to be, you know, talking myself up too much, but I take a lot of pride in, you know, doing things that not everyone does all the time at a very high level. You know, whether it's playing the run, you know, running screens down or being

disciplined backside, or you know, just communication on defense. I just think that every part of it makes you what you are as a football player, and I just, you know, want that for from the respect to my teammates and the players that I play, and I think just over time, you got to earn your respect in this league and being consistent and doing things to play and play out. I think is my past to earn in my respect in this league. Let me follow up, I'm playing the run.

Sacks equal recognition, sacks equal huge money doesn't annoy you at all. That's stopping the run doesn't get the attention that sacking the quarterback does. Attention is great and all that, but I like winning games. I think, you know, part of stopping the run and stuff took us to a super Bowl and it's gonna be a huge part to

getting us back there in the future. You know. Obviously, I'm you know, happy with winning games, and I think we got a lot of great players that deserve recommend recognition, and my time will come. You and Trey Hendrickson have an interesting dynamic as the primary defense it ends for the Bengals. He seems a little nutty, especially on game day. You are as consistent, as level and as level headed as they come. Do you guys feed off each other? Yeah, definitely.

I think we push each other day and day out, not just on game day. On game day. We kind of know how each other operates, and I have a really good relationship in that sense. But day and day out, it's we always say great, yin and yang on. You know, things we do well and the other person does not so well or they do even better. It's a great relationship. We're chatting with Sam Hubbard. There's an old saying, without the bitter, the sweet isn't as sweet. The Bengal struggled

your first three years. Now Cincinnati's one of the best teams in the NFL. Is it sweeter? Definitely? I think it's just more so. I've been through some dark days and dark times, and I enjoy these wins and all the success, but I hate losing more than anything in the world. So I don't want to go back there, and I do everything in my power to make sure that we have put that in the past and we just keep moving forward in this direction. We're on. Let's talk about the Browns. This is one of the best

running teams in the NFL. But it's not complicated, right, it's not too complicated. But what they are, they are, you know, the best in the league. Got the best running back in the NFL, probably the best offensive line in the NFL. Great coaches, great scheme, you really just have to be better than them, and that's what it comes down to in the run game. And that's no easy task, but we're gonna give it our best shot. Describe trying to tackle Nick Chubb. It's hard. He is

strong and you just bounce off him. It's kind of unlike anything I've ever played against. You really got to wrap up and you need more than one guy to bring him down. Don't even try and think about getting the ball out and until you've got him secured, it's it's a challenge, and he is the best back in the NFL in my opinion. Last thing when I was a kid, Monday night football was it. There wasn't Sunday night football. There wasn't Thursday night football. This was the

primetime show. Is it still a big deal for you guys to play at Monday night? Oh? Yeah, it's Monday night football. This is a one of the biggest stages in the game. It's an honor. It's a rare opportunity to get once a year if that, and a lot of people are gonna be watching. It's gonna be fun. You've been awesome this year on and off the field. We greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your time and best

of luck. Yeah, thanks for having me appreciate it. In seven previous games against the Bengals, Nick Chubb has average ninety four point six rushing yards and it's no coincidence that the Browns are six and one in those games. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Cattering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. With more than one hundred twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, Kettering Health is committed to guiding you to your best health.

Visit Kettering health dot org to learn more. Are now time for this week's No The Faux Segment. Zach Jackson covers the Browns for the Athletic and joined Lapping Me this week on the Bengals Game Plan Show. The Browns are seven games into Deshaun Watson's eleven game suspension. How has Jacoby Brissette been? He's played better than anybody gave him a credit for or a chance to. That starts with me when I say everybody, I think that bringing for the organization too. Now, he's not been great in

the fourth quarter in one in particular, killed them. And that's kind of been the story. Is They've been really in every game but one to the end, and it's been different things that have sumped them and a lack of connectivity. But you know, they knew what they were signing up for, right, and it's really been more the

defense letting them die. I think Jacoby Brissette is what they want in the meeting room, on the practice field and all that leads up to Monday or Sunday or Monday in this case, right, And I think they're coaching around some of his limitations. I think he's been pretty good. I think he'll be a starter next year for some team that's trying to nurture a young guy along now with three of the Bengals, you want to be up

ten or fourteen and make him beat you, right. But I think Jacoby Brissett, on the long, long list of Brown's problems that would take us this whole show to go over, is not real high on that list. The offensive line, that's that's my question. I have tremendous amount of respect for Bill Callahan. I think he's one of the best offensive line coaches that has ever done it in the National Football League, And I have a big had a big ghost and still do have a big

dost of respect for the Cleveland Browns offensive line. I thought beginning of the season top three, top five in the National Football League. Have they played that way? They've played that way some of the time, Dave, not all the time. And they're probably going to be without Pro Bowl guard Wyatt Teller. Again, they're not going to completely rule him out with the extra day, but with the bye week behind, they're probably going to sit him. The left Chael Wills, the young guys been up and down.

It's a good line. It's part of a good offense, and they run it and they disguise the run well. Joel Beatonio is as good as it gives him. He might be a Hall of Famer someday as a guard. They've plugged in Ethan Pochick as a center who's been a veteran and been solid, and Jack Halkins come back

from injury. So yeah, I mean, when you look at this game and the Bengals still not having DJ Reader, this is the Browns offensive line and Nick Chubb and then Kareem Hunt, you know, to give the Browns a chance. That to me is one of the key areas, and the Browns line will have to play like a top three or five unit I think for the Browns to have a chance. In the stand. Zack Jackson does a great job of covering the Browns for the athletic Let's

talk about that defense. The Browns agoin up one hundred and eighty six points. That's fifty four more than the Bengals. What are their biggest problems so far this year defensively? Well, late, it's been the run game and one of them, Garrett and Clowney were both out and the Falcons just said here we come and they ran. Actually, they lost middle linebacker Anthony Walker, who you know, it was not a Pro Bowl player, but he meant so much to this team.

We're finding out he meant more to this team than we saw just with his smarts and with his leadership. You know, they've got a lot invested in the safetys and grand elpat and John Johnson, and either one of those guys has played well. So early in the season, it was the big secondary breakdowns, including losing to the Jets and just unspeakable fashion. And lately it's been the run games. So Clowney is not healthy twenty three snaps. I think last weeks, missed three in the last four games.

I expect him to play. I don't think he'll be one hundred percent. Miles is getting back to one percent after his auto accident. And again, just like you look at the offensive line and Chub, I mean, if the Browns are going to have any shot to win this team, it's gonna have to be Miles just making it miserable for Joe Burrow because if Burrow has time to throw, the Browns are introls. Do you anticipate Denzel Ward will be out of concussion protocol and be able to go

in this football game? The Bengals Jamar Chase in particular, was effusive in his praise of Denzel Ward. He thinks that he's, you know, in the top level in the National Football League as far as cornerback plays. Is he going to make the dance they're hoping? So? Um, You know, you can't put a timetable on concussions like you can on sprained ankles or sore knees sometimes, right, but last he's missed two games. Last week he was around the team.

He was in meetings. He was feeling better. But until he passes that next step and can get back on the practice field, he can't say yes. So with the Monday night game, everything's pushed back a day. The Browns are hopeful, but it's going to be at least tomorrow and maybe Saturday before we know that. Let me hit you on a couple of other injury related matters. Jacob Phillips, who leads the team and tackles, he just went on ir You mentioned Anthony Walker, the linebacker earlier. He's out.

David Najoku has an ankle injury. It sounds like he's out. How significant are injuries in general for the Browns four game losing stream, then a Joku lost is a significant one. He's he's having his st year and he's a blocker. Um, he's a runner after the catch and he's been never in his career before. Now have you thought that he's going to catch the ball when he throw it his way? Jacob Phillips has been was going to be benched anyway.

He's been part of the disastrous run defense. But you know, they just don't have any depths in the middle of the defense. And I think to an extent intentionally, they said, we're gonna go top to heavy, right, We're gonna bring Clowney back. We're gonna pay Myles Garrett, pay Denzel Award and they're saying at linebacker and defensive tackle and shown up in the results. So they'll miss the Joku. Now, Harrison Bryant is a tight end. They would play for

every team in this league. And he will catch passes and he will get to the right place. But he's not a threat, you know, to catch a six yarder and turn it into a fifty yarder like Ninjoe who is What about at the at the linebacker position, Dion Jones has been nicked up. Is he going to be able to go? Yeah? He made his Brown's debut last week. He should be ready to go. You know, they have Tony Takikaki, who's in his fourth year. They're just they're

just short there. You know. They wanted Phillips to be a thing. He's big, he's fast, he's smart. They drafted him young. They knew it wasn't going to happen right away. But this was his third year. This was his first chance to really be full time and he had three bag games and got hurt. So that leaves a big hole because part of the reason they're saying is because they thought, hey, we're waiting on Silas and as soon

as we need him, he's going to step in. I mean, when they trade for Dion Jones on a Sunday night four hours after the game, that tells you it's crisis mode as the linebacker spot, right, And it's been crisis mode all over the defense for most of the season, but last week was the second best in sensive effort of the year. We know the Browns know the Bengals well, and we know what the Browns are good at, which is getting to the passers. So I'm not calling for

a Bengals beat down here. I think the bank the Browns really have a chance. But between the injuries and the way they've played and failed in the big moments, yeah, you know, you see why one team's training positively and the other team's not. A couple more questions for our buddy, Zach Jackson. You apparently heard yelling coming out of postgame locker room last week. Is tension mounting? Yes, tensions mounting?

You know whatever happened in there then, I think is something that would happen in a lot of locker rooms, would have lost four straight games, you know. So to go way to the top way of this, I mean, this is not the first time or the third time in the last ten years that the Browns have had a little bit of hope, a little bit of expectations, and it's crashed. And it's just been in so many different ways. You know. They they didn't coach really well

against Atlanta and New England. They didn't defend against the Jets or even the Panthers. They won that on a miracle. They thought they drafted the next Devin McPherson and he makes a bomb in Week one and he's cost him a couple of games since. So you know, I didn't think a ton ton of that outside of normal stuff.

But yeah, I mean, this is when the Browns made the Watton trade, they were saying to the to the NFL world, we were work quarterback away, we're ready to win, and a lot of us look up this team and you see guys that are proven. I mean, the Browns in their twenty five years back. I have not had this much talent, this much proven production at any one time. But it's just not clicking, and it's been a variety

of different things. And when you've lost four row and now'll have this game in front of you, I mean, their playoff chances are already about up as plane, but I mean this could this could really take the train slide off the track. So with that said, do they have enough leadership? Do they have guys that are going to step up and make sure the ship doesn't sink? I mean, do they have people that will you know, grab this problem by the throat and uh, you know,

shake it away or shake the problem away. Are there players that will step up in your estimation or are they avoid in that area a little bit? Well, whenever what happened in that locker room got broken up, the one thing we heard was somebody yell, there's no belief in leadership here. So it's a great question that doesn't have an answer. And that's I think then part of the issue. You know, Miles got in an auto accident and missed a game. They need him. He makes everything

go on defense. Clowney has missed more than he's played. Denzel's missed two games. You know, they changed quarterbacks in the summer, and they're going to change quarterbacks again. So this is the first time in fifteen years they've had continuity in terms of thirty year coach, third year GM coach, keeping his coordinators. That's supposed to be a plus for leadership, for the little things, for guys figuring things out right.

And everybody has a tough thing or two go wrong at the start of the season, but it's it's not only snowball the times on the Browns, It's been different things and that makes it both puzzling and then obviously frustrating for a team that didn't expect to go nine and two or eight and three without the Shawn Watson, but they thought they'd be right in it and they're just they're just not playing well. Our thanks to Zach Jackson.

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