Bengals Booth Podcast: I've Seen Better Days

of Thomasville, North Carolina. If you would like to see what I'm talking about, just do a Google search for the Big Chair. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light Seltzer Refresh the game, and here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, stick, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since the reunion of Chad Johnson

and Carson Palmer. Until last week, I had never heard of a show put together by NFL Films called The Grind. It features behind the scenes access with former NFL stars. New episodes appear every Wednesday on the Epics Network Epix, which I had also never heard of until last week. While on last Wednesday's episode, Chad Johnson traveled to Idaho to hang out at Carson Palmer's house and it was tremendous.

They reminisced about their Cincinnati days and then we got to listen into their conversation as they watched Joe Burrow lead the Bengals to last week's win over Jacksonville. And following the game, there was a special two way hookup that allowed that nine to eighty five combination talked to the current nine to eighty five combo Burrow and t Higgins. If you don't have the Epics Network, a few short clips have found their way to the Internet. Just search

for Chad Johnson, Carson Palmer, the Grind. Now let's get to Sunday's game. Last year, the Ravens set an NFL record by rushing for three thousand, two hundred and ninety six yards an average of two o six a game. Lamar Jackson obviously led the way, but he's hardly the only running threat, as the Bengals found out on Baltimore's

second play. Here's an end around for DuVernay, third round draft pickrookie runs to the thirty five to forty sideline fifty Bengals territory forty, and he'll be shoved out of bounds near the Cincinnati thirty yard line. They mark him out at the thirty one. That forty two yard end around led to a forty six yard justin Tucker field goal,

giving Baltimore an early three nothing lead. The second time Baltimore got the ball, the Ravens converted on third and five, third and one, third and seven, and third and fourteen before facing their fifth third down of the drive, third down and goal. From the five shotgun snap, Lamar Jackson fires into the end zone, caught by Boyle I make that Andrews for the Ravens touchdown. It was ten nothing Ravens after two drives for each team, and things got worse.

On the Bengals third possession, third and ten, the Bengals hit their own twenty five yard line. Three receivers left, two right, Burrow waiting for the shotgun snap. He has the ball, he's in trouble, flings it down field and it's intercepted. By Peters at the forty two yard line, running back to the thirty five and Tee Higgins tackles him at the thirty two. Boys, that's the kind of

mistake you can't make. Joe Burrows desperation. Heave under duress was intended for AJ Green, the only pass thrown his way before he spent the second half on the bench with a hamstring injury. And it was a strange looking play as AJ didn't jump for the ball. Here's Zach Taylor. I was sitting right there on the line side of Aja. I did not think that he could have made that play. He probably didn't even know where the ball was to be.

Cut on us with you. Through five games, AJ has fourteen catches for one hundred nineteen yards, as long as catch all year was for a fifteen yard gain. We'll have more on that with Dave Lapham in just a bit. The Marcus Peters I NT gave the Ravens a short field and led to their third score in as many drives to make it seventeen nothing. Early second quarter, first and goal from the three pistol formation for Lamar Jackson

with mark Ingram behind. Jackson does a three hundred and sixty degree spin throws into the end zone, caught for the touchdown by Hollywood Brown. Number fifteen Marquise Hollywood Brown had six catches for seventy seven yards and a touchdown. Number eighty nine Mark Andrews also had six catches. His went for fifty six yards and a touchdown, and they were targeted on more than half of Lamar Jackson's thirty

seven passes. Here's Jesse Bates. We know where Lamar wants to go in a fifteen or eighty nine, and I mean it showed up today as well. That's all I mean, that's all he was really gone to today was fifteen or eighty nine. With a seventeen point lead in the second quarter, Baltimore unleashed its pass rush, hitting Burrow ten times and sacking him three times. In the first half. Burrow has a man on either side as he waits

for the shotgun snap He's back to throw. Pump fakes. Burrow, with plenty of time now, scrambling left and drilled from behind by his former college teammate Patrick Queen, who comes away with a football man. It was a blindside shot. Joe Burrow had no idea Queen was closing in on him like he was. And right now, Martindale is smelling the blood and he's just bringing linebackers, He's bringing defensive backs, he's bringing everybody. He's bringing one more than the Bengals

can block. Martindale as Baltimore's defensive coordinator, Don Wink, Martindale, whose blitz happy approach was too much for Joe Burrow in the Bengals offensive line. He had a good plan. Let me just st in next to get our plan very well. I didn't played very well and we as an offense didn't play very well. So he's gotta get fixed. What can you do better? I mean it does it matter a matter of everybody getting on the same page

against those blitz looks or what is it? Well? Personally, I can get the ball out of my hands faster I can. Um. You know, I wasn't very accurate today, which was disappointing to me. You know, I thought we had a great week of practice and it just didn't carry over. You talked about getting rid of it quicker, but what were they doing things to take maybe your hot reads away where you couldn't do that at times?

You know, they do a good job of popping guys out into the middle to take away those middle throws and bringing guys that you don't have account for, and not bringing the guys you do have account accounting for. So they had a good plan. You know, they're a good defense, a really good team. While the Bengals offense struggled all day, their defense was outstanding for the final three quarters, holding the Ravens to just one field goal on Baltimore's final eight drives, not including a kneel down

in the final play of the game. Jackson finished with just three yards rushing and one hundred eighty yards passing, with a past A rating of seventy one point nine. Third down and ten. At the Cincinnati twenty seven Lamar Jackson short pass, it's intercepted, It's picked off by Logan Wilson at the twenty four yard line, the Rookies second NFL pick, and the Bengals takeover with one thirteen left in the half. Here are Jesse Bates and Tyler Boyd.

I think we did a good job defensively, but when you play it against really good teams like this, the room for air is just really small. Um, you just can't you know, I don't I don't care how you know, our office isn't playing up to our standard, But I don't care how bad that is. We just have to keep it close. The defense played a heck of a game, and for us on the other side, you know, it wasn't wasn't too pretty. And that's what really hurts me, you know, because we put the time and we put

so much time in and repetition to this man. It just didn't work for us. And it was a rude awakening for Burrow. After throwing for at least three hundred yards in each of his previous three games, Joe was nineteen for thirty for one hundred eighty three yards, with no touchdowns, one interception, two fumbles, and a passer rating of sixty six point four. Shotgun snap Burrow in trouble again and sacked again, this time by Humphrey cornerback coming from the edge back at the thirty five yard line.

Hit number fifteen, sack number seven. Burrow has been sacked twenty two times already. That's number one in the NFL, three more than Carson Wentz. So how is Joe dealing with it? You just deal with it and come back

in fight every play like like I have been. Burrow's former LSU teammate Patrick Queen scored a defensive touchdown in the fourth quarter, scooping up a Mike Thomas fumble that was punched out by Marlon Humphrey his specialty, with Queen running fifty three yards to the house to make it twenty seven nothing. The Bengals hadn't been shut out in fifty one games since who else Baltimore blanked them in

the twenty seventeen season opener. This time, Cincinnati avoided the good this egg with less than a minute to go. Randy Bullock twelve or thirteen so far this year. Harris snaps to Huber, here's the swing of the leg and the kick is good. So the Bengals avoid the shot out and they trailed twenty seven to three with thirty two seconds to go. That was the final, twenty seven to three. Taylor and Burrow some up a sobering day.

We know where the issues were. We knew we had to be a fishing on first second down, and we had three charnovers minus yardage plays, which in some cases can be really avoidable. And when you do that against the Baltimore Rags, they're gonna make you pay for it, and it's gonna feel like that. You know, we're building a culture here, We're moving in the right direction. Yeah, obviously it wasn't great, but now we're gonna look back on this team in a few years and say, wow,

you know that kind of propelled us forward. You know, we're gonna keep working hard. We got great people within the organization on the team and a great coaching stuff, So you know we're gonna keep working hard, keeping coming to work every day to twin games. This is a resilient team. It's a very connected team. It's unfortunate that we put this performance on the field, playing and coaching. But again, we're not gonna hit the panic button. We're

gonna regroup and do itis for the Coals. It's off to Indie next Sunday for the bengals fourth road game in their first six. The Colts are three and two after losing to Cleveland thirty two twenty three. And here's how things look in the AFC North. The Steelers are four and zero, the Ravens and Browns are four and one, and the Bengals are one three and one, the best division in football so far, The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with

a hint of fruit flavor. Now, let's get some postgame analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. All Right, final score twenty seven to three. It actually felt more lopsided than that, and that's pretty lopsided. The Bengals could not protect Joe Burrow, similar to the Philadelphia game a couple of weeks ago, even though though that one ended in a tie fifteen hits the Ravens seven quarterback sacks. Through five games, Joe Burrow has been hit fifty times. According

to official NFL stats, he's been sacked twenty two. That would project to one hundred and sixty hits and seventy point four sacks. The NFL single season record for a quarterback is seventy six, when David Carr was the number one overall picking a rookie. And that's uh, David Carr's career didn't last very long, and you don't want that to be the case for Joe Burrow. You know, the mental part of it, the confidence part of it, everything

that goes along with it. It's just you know, you start taking these blindside shots and it's just you know, you start to lose confidence and what's happening around you. And it's human nature. I don't care who you are, I mean, would how would you like it if you're standing in depotet or you're running, you're running a ten yards sideline to sideline in the field and somebody just hits you with something in your back and you don't

know when it's going to happen. You don't know how it's going to happen, but it's going to happen at some point. That's kind of what it feels like. I mean, it's it's it's not a pleasant scenario. So I'm gonna

have to start doing things to protect him. Maybe he should start thinking about protect himself a little bit better too, you know at times and and uh, there's that balancing act between when do I extend and create as opposed to just live for another play and don't try to make too much out of something out of nothing, you know, something that's not there. So it's it's it's a learning process I think for all involved. Bottom line is everybody just has to get better though, because you know, if

you this Ravens defense. Once there was blood in the water. You talk about sharks that are frenzied. I mean it was like everybody was begging. I mean they were going up and they were begging Martindale, bring me, blitz me, let me have a piece of this action. I mean it was like, you know, they put seven or eight guys up to the line of scrimmage. You don't know which ones are coming, so you call a protection to what you think might protect a certain look, and they

do something totally different. They bring the guys that you haven't accounted for, and the guys you have accounted for drop off into coverage. And that's what's so tough about them. And when they get a lead, they do it over and over and over. When it's third and six or seven or more, They're gonna do it until you can

until you beat it. If you beat it with some kind of blitz breaker, you know, some sort of a blitz beat or blitz breaker, at some point in time, you know he may reconsider we talked about before the game in the Thursday night game, Andy Dalton and AJ Green personally with pre snapper Reeds and cited just and all that beat the blitz and Martin deal stopped blitzing for quarter and a half. Totally uncharacteristic. But this one man, once he get up seventeen nothing and started, you know,

testing the waters, he found them to be delightful. I'm not sure that an assistant coach has ever been on a TV screen more than Don Wing Martindale was during the course of that game. By the way, he is not related to Winston Martindale. Member of the American TV Game Show Hall of Fame. There is such a thing. But here's what really helped this wink Martindale. The Bengals faced third and ten twice, third and eleven twice, third and twenty one, third and twenty four, third and twenty five.

That is not gonna work against the Baltimore Ravens, third and twenty one, third and twenty four, third and twenty five penalties. You're self destructing, You're staying to the Ravens. We're not only gonna let you blitz us'na, We're gonna say it's we have a quarter of the football field to cover if we just to get back to the line of scrimmage. So you're stupid if you don't blitz us I mean it's like, oh, man, I don't care

who you're playing against. If you're third and twenty plus, it's a no win situation against the Ravens, you might as well just take a knife and slit yourself. I mean, it's like it's suicidal and you can't be in those situations. You don't want to be in third and seven or more, never mind third and twenty or more. So yeah, I mean, at that point, Wink Martindale is saying, well, I know Halloween's not to the end of the month, but I'm gonna it's like taking candy from a baby. I'm gonna

go make my candy right now. I'm gonna get after the Bengals and blitz them to death if they're gonna help like that until this football team, this football team is nowhere near good enough to help the opponent. I mean, there's there's absolutely it's nonsensical to think that they can put themselves in situations like that. Nonsensical. By the way, is the original Wink Martindale up there on a level with Bob Barker and Alex Trebek on the All Time Game Show host or is he on that next here

with Pat Say Tech, Bob Eubanks and others. I got them on level two max Max Max. Alex Trebek still, I mean, battling cancer in his eighties, still getting it done, my hero Barker and Trebek. That is that is a level above all. Right, let's talk about the defense. His performance obviously didn't start great. Ravens scored on their first three drives. That that second drive that went for a touchdown third down as a killer. They converted five times

on third down, including third and fourteen. But after the first three drives of the game, three points for the Ravens offense on their last eight drives. That's getting it done. It is getting it done. And Luanna roumoin company take a bow. You know, they spied the quarterback with at various levels, with guys that can tackle them, you know, spy with the linebacker they can run. Logan Wilson. Phillips was kind of in some blitz packages, was kind of

like spying on his own. He would delay the blitz and and just really give Lamar Jackson a lot of problems. Took away the outside running game, and when he tried to extend plays in the passing game, there was somebody all over him. I mean, they had a hell of a game plan. They really did. To think that Lamar Jackson, the leading rusher on the football team, ended the game with three yards rushing, where it was like fifth or

sixth leading rusher on the football team. Speaks volumes. I mean, they took away a massive part of the Baltimore Ravens offensive productivity, Lamar Jackson's legs, and they made him, you know, have to throw the football. And you know, my thought was, I hope he has to throw twenty five times more. He basically did that in the first half. I think it was close to twenty five to finish with thirty seven throws. Yeah, that's that's that's perfect, that's right in

And they gave up twenty points. I mean one of the last touchdown was an unscripted score against the Bengals offense when Humphrey punched it out and Patrick Queen picked it up and ran to the house with it. That has nothing to do with the defensive football team. So they played winning football. You hold the Baltimore Ravens to

twenty points in Baltimore, that's winning football. The problem is to give up seventeen on the first three drives that made life easier for Don Wink Martindale and made to make the decisions that he made to make it harder on the offense to try to generate anything. I mean, you can't let them jump out to that kind of lead. If if they get a lead, it can't be a three score lead in a quarter. Literally, they were up seventeen points six seconds into the second quarter. That's brutal, brutal.

So you know, the only the only negative, the only knock on the defense would be that that allowed them to cumulate that kind of lead, you know, early in the game. But again, the offense didn't know anything to you to help their own situation. They didn't score, you know, I mean, they didn't score till in the last minute of the football the last few seconds of the football game. I mean. It was a tough, tough day, a tough day at the office for everybody involved on the offensive

side of things for the Bengals. So we had our first mini controversy of the season on Thursday when Carlos Dunlap complained to reporters about his removal from the starting lineup although he played reasonably well today. And now we've got this postgame controversy that has sprung up regarding AJ Green. I didn't see it while we were broadcasting the game, but there's a clip on the internet where he appears to be saying, just trade me. According to lip readers,

it dangerous to try to do that. Who knows if that's really what he was saying. Aj was only targeted once. That was an interception where he never saw the throw. Then he reaggravated the hamstringer or maybe it's the other leg I don't know, but he sat out the rest of the game. I hate to see this with Aj Green, I mean, the epitome of class. Nothing that would anything negative about his tenure with the Bengals. But if he did say just trade me, I'm not sure what he

would be upset about. Where the Bengals are concerned. They're they're paying him, obviously on the franchise tag. They're playing him, paying him and playing him, and so far he just has not been able to get open and consistently catch the ball. Yeah. I mean, they're paying him almost eighteen million bucks for the season. It's a pretty good job. I'll take that work. Not Dougal Hunt, you know, I mean frustration we saw it boil over with Carlos Dunlap.

Now it's boiling over with aj Green. Everybody's frustrated, though, And I know those guys experienced the five straight playoff games, five straight playoff seasons, I should say, and you you, you know, the bar gets set at a certain height and then all of a sudden, the team starts to struggle. And uh, you know, for as good as it was in the record setting five straight seasons going to the postseason, it's been record setting in the opposite direction here in

this phase a bit. So you know, that's when frustration bill's over. And my thing is, it's easy to play and be happy and satisfied when you win in football games. The true test is when you're in the situation that you're in right now and you're still getting paid. You're getting paid to perform, you're getting paid to give, you know, put your best foot forward and give everything you've got, you know, to the organization for the for the betterment

of the entire organization. So I understand it's tough. Been there. I was on four and twelve football teams. I was on twelve and four football teams. I understand, and I know it's it's night and day, it's North and South Pole. But believe me, I mean you got to. You have to pride yourself from the fact that, no matter what, you were giving full effort, in giving everything you possibly could from a contribution standpoint to help turn it around when it was poor and to sustain a level of

excellence when it was good. That's what you're getting paid to do. Right now. Unfortunately, these two teams are not close. Baltimore had the best record in the NFL during the regular season last year fourteen and two. They had twelve Pro Bowlers. A year ago, they lost one when they let Earl Thomas go. They traded for Calais Campbell, who's a five time Pro Bowler. They drafted Patrick Queen in the first round. He was excellent today. They drafted JK.

Dobbins in the second round. Any Ohio State fan knows what he's capable of doing. This is an exceptionally good Baltimore team that you know, last two meetings or seventy six to sixteen, I don't think it's that lop sided. But unfortunately the Bengals have a long way to go

to catch up to the Ravens. Right now yeah, I mean, you know, you you end up saying, all right, you beat the Jacksonville Jaguars, And in my mind, you know, that was in my mind the big test because they didn't have a dozen Pro Bowlers, you know, they had one, and the Chargers had multiple Pro Bowls in the defensive line. Cleveland had a Pro Bowl in the defensive line. Philadelphia had multiple Pro Bowls in the defensive line. Jacksonville had one.

But you know one time first Pro Bowl, Baltimore's got multiple Pro Bowlers and Baltimore at Indianapolis, Cleveland, Tennessee at Pittsburgh fifteen and three. Now it's sixteen and three and maybe better depending on how these other games pan out. So you're looking at you know, after that stretch, you got the Redskins at Washington, the Giants at Miami, Dallas. I mean those those uh, those four teams right there

are the reverse. You know they're all struggling, but you know it's like you have to put yourself in a position these these teams, Like you said, Dan, the difference, the differential between where where the Ravens are and where the Bengals are. If you if you don't play to your highest level, you're gonna get embarrassed. And the Bengals played C minus football maybe I don't know, better than C minus because the defense I think was much better.

Special teams were solid. The phase that let them down obviously was the offense and let them down dramatically. They had a failing grade. So it brings everybody down. But say it's C and if the Ravens who offensively didn't play, you know, as well as they've been playing, but their defense was lights out. If they if they play you know, B plus or better, you're gonna see this kind of thing.

So you have to try to get You have to try to perform at the highest level you possibly can, up to your capabilities, and if you don't, this is what's going to happen. I mean right now, you're you're trying to build toward getting closer to these upper echelon teams. When you don't play at you at a good level, you're going to be embarrassed by these upper echelon teams.

All right, Just to wrap it up, to reconfirm you have eighty six year old Winston Wink Martindale, the famed game show host of Tick Tecto High Rollers and other shows ranked as a second tier all time game show host a notch below Barker and Trebec Trebec and Barker was great. Barker's my man. And they say, they say, Barker he had some beautiful women by his side. Barker's beauties at all times. Yeah, Barker's beauties. And there was

a reason for Barker's beauties. Barker was the man. There was brutal injury news in the game as DJ Reader was taken off the field on a cart and according to the NFL Networks Mike Garafolo, it's a quadricep's injury that's expected to keep Reader out for the rest of the season, pending further tests. Let's finish this edition of the podcast with something more cheerful. It's this week's fun Facts segment, where you get to know the person under

the pads. Time for some fun facts or linebacker Akeem Davis gather from Thomasville, North Carolina, known as the Chair City because of the furniture industry in that area and Thomasville's most famous landmark. From what I understand, the chairs a big chair. Tell us about the big chair? Is this really like a huge chair like a statue in the middle of the town. People can't say pustures on it. I think in Dannity Center if they still do that, they put like a big old sent a class up there.

It's benefit. It's a chair that's thirty feet tall and ten feet wide. Somewhere in the family archives there's your picture of you in front of the big chair, part of pro before the prom. Yeah, people meet up there take pictures because they got like a found right next to it. I love it. Sounds like a great picture. We're doing fun facts or the King. Davis Gaither tell us a little bit about growing up there and what you like to do as a kid. It's really like

a small town. Probably every other person probably my cousin of some sort, so everybody knows everybody. My friends I grew I still taking them today. Uh. We used to do like adventurous stuff, playing outside, run through the woods. Um, we used to do something stupid, played tackle football on the street, which is crazy in high school with Kenya Letard and football, basketball, baseball and tracked and sports always

come easily to you. My family just known for sports, so I don't know if it can't easily, but my dad was always a coach. My brother says the basketball basketball player, so everybody wanted to be the best in the house, so it was always striving for that. You played high school football for a coach named Allen Brown who was coached at that high school for three decades more than three wins. You and your dad, That's what was it like to play for a high school coaching legend.

It was pretty awesome knowing that, especially knowing that they coach my dad, so knowing that they had history there. Actually got a picture my dad was telling him about to play, and I got the same type of picture doing the same thing. Put it together. It was kind of funny, but it was definitely good playing for him. I know, I kind of really messed up because either him or the hole tel to let my dad no sense.

My dad was coaching at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana, so everybody always pickled the phone and let my dad know how bad I was doing. Early on. Well, I hope they let him know how well you were doing when things got better. Yeah, they probably didn't. We're doing fund Factor The King David Skither. When you finished high school, you were one hundred and seventy pounds not the ideal size for a college linebacker. How did that impact recruiting?

Teams wanted Like, I know, my junior Duke wanted me to be one eighty five, and they gave me to put them in like a little time scale to get that. But I mean, my dad wasn't there. My mom she wear two jobs, so I really didn't know nothing about nutrition. So I was eating bad food and really went paying too much attention about my eating habits so that that didn't happen. But they came in. They want to speed, and it took. It took a chance on Appalachian States,

about thirty five minutes from where you grew up. You had a tremendous career there. The team won a bowl game every year you were there. What was the best part of your college experience really just learning and growing as a as a man and as an individual. I became a father there at the second, second, third year, so that was huge. And this Ben Rondo's guess and winning spirit. The most famous win in Appalachian State history was the upset over Michigan back in two thousand and seven.

But you played a key role in an upset that was almost as big your senior year against North Carolina, the big school in the state. You had an interception, you blocked the game tying field goal attempt on the final play of the game. What stands out about that day? We want to call it upset because we felt like it was the business state we always filled that way. This is the chip we carry on a show this um.

But that definitely huge win. This. It was my birthday that day too, so I definitely wanted to be a big game h We wanted to win that game. We went in knowing that we would win that game. So I think the whole game was this pretty It was good. Then I came in your senior year at app State. You suffered a stress fracture in your foot in week three. Doctor told you you could snap it if you kept playing, and that's what you did, even though you had an

NFL future. Why did you chose to choose to keep playing? This has been out there. I know my gods was depending on me. You had two freshman players UM behind me that when one maybe one as ready to play, so the team was counting on me. I know, possibly could be my last time playing football if then the field didn't work out, So I just wanted to give him my own then if it if it was a breakdown, I'll be done. But I wanted to go all out and give him all to that team. We've mentioned your dad.

He's a college football coach, currently the wide receivers coach at Army. What are some of the most importan lessons he gave you when it comes to football? Gave me a bunch. You'd probably called me at the every press of the game before I even get to get in the locker room. So he's always I called him coach that that's that's the name of my phone. He's half coach, half the it definitely always coaching me. But really the biggest thing he always try to implement my head is

this be better than what you were yesterday. I try to start to do that. You were named the sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year your final year at Appalachian State. Previous winners of that award include the Great DeMarcus Ware. What did the honor mean and what kind of trophy or plaque do you get for being the

sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year. I mean a lot this knowing how I started there, coming in off of Andrew when I got the red shirted, didn't play as much my first two and a half season, really was the best teams guy, and this kept finding my position. Coach kept believing in me, pushing pushing me to be better each day, and it's working my tail off to actually contribute more to my team and getting the start a role in this keep elevating each year. So that

was definitely a huge war for my family. That's knowing that it wasn't easy for me. This went't handed to me. I had to work for and then it was good for my team, UM and the young guys that's coming in behind me knowing that the standard is set and now as day job, keep the standard and uplifted UM play. We get it. It's like a glass plot. It's pretty it's pretty sweet. I read that you started a cleaning

business in college. Is that true? And if so, described, Yeah, we started that's that's summer going into my senior year, Me and a guy on a football team and my daughter's mom. We all started that h that summer or really that spring, and they really took off that summer going into going into camp out there really some workers so she wouldn't be dog tight. We had about three or four workers, but they got pretty pretty busy. Where

did you clean offices, houses, whatever? Really? Everything we did the office, Airbnb's apartment turn around really not but students out there. So during the summers, I mean everybody's moving out, so we cleaned those. We did pressure Washington really in things you think of, we did all types of stuff. A few more fun facts for the King, David Skather, As you mentioned, you're a proud dad. Your daughter is Camella Joy. What's your favorite part of fatherhood? Definitely seeing

her grow up. I'll just posted a picture yesterday when she was about thinking about spot six months at daycare. She was tiny and now she's run around talking, saying all kinds of stuff and it's time to a little kid. It's fun, all right. A few wild card questions to wrap things out. Who is your favorite athlete in any sport?

And why? By Serry Lewis always just been locked down, the way, what he stands for, the way to do it, what he does on the field and off the field, just the energy bringing the football and to people around him. I always try to carry myself in that in that manner. Where do you like to spend your money on business opportunities. You don't have a closet full of shoes or electronics or whatever. Nuh, I mean I gotta I gotta gamester him, but I mean I probably turn it on once a decade.

All right. Last thing, you have a hyphenated last name, Davis Gaither. Is that I always been the case or did you choose to do that? That was something I did for my dad. Since my dad he's gathering my moms Davis um because my dad, I have a few cousin did the last gathers. So he just wanted wanted, uh that for himself and for my family, so I can represent Davis ain't gather. It must have brought me something that because once I did that, that's when football

changed for me. That's when I started starting all that. It's a great way to pay tribute to both parents. Are you hey, You're off to hot seat. I appreciate you doing this. Best of luct to rest of the year, all right, thank you, Hi, Thanks to rookie A Keen Davis Skaith And here's a quick reminder to join Lap and Lance McAlister for Bengals Line Monday night from six to nine on seven hundred WLW. Done on Wednesday night, I'll join Lap for the Bengals Game Plan Show from

six to eight on ESPN fifteen thirty. That's going to do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by bud Light Seltzer, refresh the game. If you haven't done so already, please subscribe and if you have a minute, give it a rating or share a comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde and thank you for listening to the Bengals Booth Podcast