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and coaches, and in depth analysis from Dave Lapham. And in this week's fun fact segment, you'll get to know the person under the pads as I go one on one with linebacker Logan Wilson. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game, and here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or

pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since travel. I love to travel. In fact, seeing the world is my favorite thing in the world, and between work and vacations, I've been very lucky to see a bunch of it, but not in twenty twenty. Like many of you, I haven't ventured very far from home during this pandemic, and that's one of the things I miss the most. Here's hoping we can all satisfy our wander lust again in the

months to come. Now, let's get to Sunday's game. Andy Dalton started the day one for one against his former team by correctly calling the coin toss. The Cowboys elected to defer, meaning the Bengals got the ball first. They kept it for all of two plays. Now, Tyler Boyd goes in motion as they handed off up the middle of Giovanni Bernard bounced off at tackles the ball our rarity for Giovanni Bernard. We'll see who has it. At the thirty two yard line, DeMarcus Lawrence forced the fumble.

Giovanni Bernard had carried eight hundred twenty nine consecutive times without a fall. Dallas recovers, so the Cowboys first drive started at the Cincinnati thirty two, but the Bengals defense kept Dallas out of the end zone. Dalton ready for the shotgun snap. He has the ball three step drop bouncing in the pocket and Dalton will be pulled down. He's gonna be sacked. Marcus Hunt polishes him off Sam

Sam Hubbard got to Andy Dalton first he did. The Cowboys settled for a field goal in a three nothing lead. After fumbling on the Bengals first drive, Giovanni Bernard was replaced on their second by Trey Theon Williams. He had three carries in one catch to help Cincinnati drive to

the edge of the red zone. Second down and fourth at the twenty one of Dallas Alan and the gun turns left, hands it off to Williams, goes Low loses the ball scooped up by Dallas and the Cowboys are racing it back the other way the thirty the twenty the ten touchdown Dallas wow Alden Smith with a seventy eight yards scooping score to give the Cowboys at ten nothing lead without having to do anything on offense. How

did Zach Taylor feel about it? Stunned? I rate. I mean, that's you give to team ten points right out the gate, thought didn't even really have to take the field. Is a disappointing start to the game. I couldn't feel better at going into this game, and you know, to give them ten points before they even have to do anything is a disappointing way to start. On their third possession, the Bengals tried a third running back, Samaj p Ryan,

but Taylor says that wasn't a response to the two fumbles. No, we were pointing on rotating the running backs before the game, so that that wasn't necessarily a product. Obviously, like you said, Geo is very, very great with this ball security over the course of his career. But our plan was to rotate all three of those backs and with p Ryan in. On drive number three, the Bengals drove to the Dallas

fifteen before deciding to go for it. On fourth down and one, Alex Ericson, motioning toward the formation, lines up as a wing to the left. Now he goes in jet motion. They give it to Alex Rickson. He has the first he fumbles the ball. Third fumble already for Cincinnati. There's a pile at the thirteen yard line. The Cowboys are celebrating. No signal from the officials, yet there it is. Dallas recovers three drives, three lost fumbles. Here's linebacker Josh

Bynes on the Bengals error prone ways. It just sucks because we're such We know for a fact we're a better team than we played and put on film and it just I mean it really it really no. You put the work in. You got great guys in locker room. I mean everybody's working, working so hard to just win, and it's frustrating. You know, it's really really really really really really frustrating. I counted seven reelis in front of

the word frustrated. After Alex Rickson's fumble, Dallas put together an eight the eight yard drive that included four third down conversions. The Cowboys habit at the Cincinnati eleven. Dalton drops back to throw fires a pass toward the end zone. Amari Cooper comes up with a football for a Cowboys touchdown that made it seventeen nothing. Midway through the second quarter, on their fourth drive of the day, the Bengals finally didn't fumble. In fact, they held down to the ball

for sixteen plays and found the end zone. Brandon Allen drops back to throw fires a pass spot by j Green. He ran a slant. It was a bullet a frozen rope by Brandon Allen, and aj Green hauls in his second touchdown catch up the season. It comes with eight seconds left in the half that made it seventeen seven. At the half as aj Green caught passes for the first time in three weeks. He finished with six grabs for sixty two yards, including his sixty fifth career touchdown

that leaves AJJ one behind Chad Johnson's franchise record. AJ what means more to records or wins? Man winnings? You know, I already had the records. I had big years and you know, I think twenty fifteen when we were winning, it wasn't my best year, Stat's wife, But we're winning. Um,

I think that makes everything much easier. Um when you win, and I'm at a point in my career where you know, it's not about the money, it's not about you know, with all the stats, and it's just about having fun again, you know, playing football and that's the only thing you can do for that is to win. And it's stuff. But like I said, man, I'm the guy that stays

level and keep working each week. What it's going to be the number one factor when it comes down to deciding if you want to stay in Cincinnati moving forward. I don't know, man, I, like I said, I got a small circle. Um, so you know, my wife, my family, UM, my boys, we don't sit down and make the best decision. That's school, you know, best for my career, and right now we don't know what that looked like right now,

but we prepared for anything. The Bengals hadn't scored in the third quarter in their previous five games, and that street continued against Dallas. A Cowboys field goal made it twenty to seven going to the fourth quarter. A thirteen point deaf is it obviously isn't insurmountable, and the Bengals scored a touchdown on a thirteen yard run by p Rhyme with eight forty six to go. Unfortunately, it was wiped out by a holding penalty on Quentin Spain, a

penalty the Bengals were not able to overcome. So this could be the game right here. Fourth down in seven at the Dallas ten, with the Bengals trailing by thirteen points seven twenty nine on the clock. Three receivers left aj Green alone out to the right. Brandon Allen extends the hands, catches the shotgun, snap throws it into the back left corner of the end zone and almost threw it into the stands. That's how badly he overthrew Tyler Boyd in the act left corner of the end zone

and the Cowboys will take over on downs. Brandon Allen played well, throwing for two hundred and seventeen yards with a passer rating of ninety nine, but on that drive he bruised his knee on a scramble and was limping pretty badly on the final ten plays of the drive. Alan did not finish the game. You know, just one of those sames. Things just got hit right in the right spot, and you know a lot of times you

just walk it off. It gets better, it gets better, and so I tried to stay out there and walk it off and kind of just kept getting tighter and tighter instead. So now it's obviously affecting me a little bit on some of the throws. It's hard to really get any weight into the throws. And you know, we checked it out. Didn't want to. I don't want to hinder our offense. Um if I wasn't able to perform

the lagging perform. So was that part of the situation on the fourth down play when when the ball sailed on you a little bit, was it you just couldn't transfer your weight. Right now, I'm not gonna blame it on that obviously, you know, just a poor, poor decision, poor throw. You know, I knew it was fourth down, trying to give TV a chance in the back the end zone, but yeah, bald definitely just got away from me,

and the game quickly got away from the Bengals. A fifty five yard field goal by Greg the leg zerline made a twenty three to seven, and a five yard touchdown pass from Andy Dalton to Tony Pollard on fourth and one with two minutes to go made the final score thirty to seven. It was a memorable day for the Red Rifle. He went sixteen for twenty three for one hundred and eighty five yards, with two touchdowns, no picks, and a passer rating of one twenty two point six.

After each touchdown, he looked toward his wife JJ in a luxury suite and they gave each other the sign language symbol for I love you. Here's AJ green. It was so you're just to see him in that uniform with those colors. You know, Andy and my relationship are

just bigger than is bigger than football. So just watching them what they're you know, watching them have to sussiest study having um, you know, you know, our wife set together in the boxes the day, so, um, I was especially it's weird, but I was happy for him that he's he's he's getting a starting job and show people what you can do. The Cowboys improved to four and

nine with the win. They're two games behind Washington in the NFC East, as the football team followed up a win over the Steelers by beating the forty nine ers on Sunday. Washington is one four straight. The Bengals, out of the other hand, have lost five straight to fall to two ten and one, their third straight season with double digit losses. Here are Sam Hubbard and Zach Taylor just exhausting. You know, you do, uh everything right during the week, practice hard, and uh you know, no reward

and uh, you know, just weighs on you. And it's been going on for a while now. It's just pretty pretty. When you lose, it's frustrating, you know, and it's it's hard to get rid of this feeling, um that we feel, you know, at the end of every week. Right now, it's frustrating because um, we feel good about the position we're about to put ourselves in. And then you know, it's a myriad of reasons that or why we lose and ultimately one hundred percent falls on me, one hundred percent,

you know, and it's Um, it's just frustrating. It's really frustrating. A lot of effort goes into this, Um, guys pulling together. Um, it's still a very close team. I think you can see that as you see them out there playing. We just haven't made the plays that that put us in a position to win the game. And and it just it makes you sick to start the way that we

started today. You know, as good as you feel walking out of that locker room at pre game, UM, you're sick to your stomach when you start with three straight fumbles to start the game. It's just it's a it's a very difficult way to play football. Zach. You mentioned frustrating a lot. Um just when when you look at your record on paper as a head coach, that did you start to worry about job security when you get near the end of the season. No, I just want

to win a football game. That's it. And I love going to work with these guys every day and that's that's all that matters to me. Is how do we get ready in seven days to go win a game. That is one hundred percent our focus. Don't worry about anything else. It's this is too important for us. We want to win so badly, and we're just going to continue to work and find ways to great those wins. Sunday's loss did make it more likely that the Bengals

will have a top three draft pick next year. They would have to win two of their final three games to fall in the draft order. Now time for postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lap. That was rough and it started early. Second play from scrimmage, Giovanni Bernard fumbled on a running play for the first time since his rookie year. Game five of his rookie year. He had carried nearly eight hundred and thirty times on running plays without fumbling. I guess when that happens, did

Giovanni Bernard? You know, you know you might be in for a long day. I'll tell you, you know. I think, as they say, it comes in bunches. I think what had happened to Geo? It was the fumble virus instead of the coronavirus. I mean it infected the team, and uh, you know then then guys, Alex Rickson's a sure handed guy. But I give Dallas credit. Put the helmet right on the football. That's a tough deal. A guy made a good play. He made a good play. Alex Rickson fumbles

the football. I feel sorry for Williams. I mean, I don't know what Hakima Denergy was thinking. Pulls around and he stops, stops in the hole. I mean, if you're you don't block air, if there's nothing there, get through the hole and get up to the next level and block something. And Williams, basically a Dentergy forced that fumble, and a dnergy never played the rest of the game, and Williams was running hard. It's unfortunate that that took place.

So that just tells you the football gods today we're saying, not happening. You're gonna You're gonna fumble three times on your first three possessions. I do not recall ever seeing that happen before. I think that's the first and I've seen a lot of games, high school, college and pro games, and I can't remember it. Three straight possessions. Basically, they went a whole quarter and ten seconds into another quarter and said we don't really want to keep the football,

you know, the other team can have it. And with a team like this that's struggling offensively, that has little or no margin for error, are you kidding me to do that? That's self destruction and its utmost I know, I've seen turnovers on the first three possessions, but it's a mix, an interception of fumble, maybe you know, two of one one or the other. I've never seen three fumbles in a row on the first three possessions. That

was awful. My gut instinct is, you know, when I see that happen, I think, well, like fumbles, that's a discipline thing, it's bad coaching. And then I look up the numbers. The Rams have fumbled ten times this year, the Saints have fumbled nine times, or the eight times the Bills have fumbled nine times this year. Three of the best teams in the NFL they've fumbled. So I don't blame it on the coaching staff. It's impossible to

do that with Giovanni Bernard. Unfortunately. That's the kind of stuff that happens when you are struggling and have no margin of error. That's the big thing. No margin fair and you can't score, you know, I mean, you you just can't give teams opportunities like that, and it falls into that fine line before of playing not to lose or plan to win, you know, and it's like do I do I overprotect? And sometimes when you overprotect, it

can be a problem with the football. But I mean that that ball security issue, I thought I thought it was going to be a factor in the bengals favor. Coming into the game, Dallas had lost lost thirteen fumbles, had fumbled it nineteen times, and it lost thirteen of them. Thirteen lost fumbles led the league. Now the Cincinnati Bengals have thirteen. They're right there with them, and they've only gotten three. That minus ten funnel ratio worse than the

National Football League. They've thrown interceptions and they've gotten nine interceptions. They're even in interceptions, minus ten in fumbles. I mean, that's that speaks volumes. I'm looking at that and then the other stat that is, you know significant, they're at least minus eleven. They came into the game minus ten and touchdowns in the red zone and I think Dallas scored two when they scored one. So now I think

they're minus eleven in touchdowns in the red zone. That's at the bottom of the league, when you have fumble ratio differential at the bottom of the league, touchdowns in the red zone, when the field compresses near the bottom of the league, and now you're starting to get trends of they're just not good enough, they're just not getting it done. Andy Dalton had to feel like it was

twenty and fifteen all over again. He played well, but didn't have to do that much through for one hundred and eighty five yards, two touchdowns, no picks, one of the touchdown passes with a terrific throw pass, the rating of one twenty two point six. But this was like that twenty fifteen season he broke his thumb when the Bengals had at ten and two record. At that point, the Bengals led the NFL in scoring defense. They were averaging nearly twenty eight points a game. He had a

passer rating of one oh six. This was just like twenty fifteen, except he is standing on the opposite sideline. Yeah, it was. I admit it was odd to see him in Dallas colors, you know, it really was. I think it accentuated the red hair even more because with the orange uniform and the Bengals unity kind of like mutes it. But man, when you're you're wearing blue and silver and all of a sudden there's that big old swats of

orange red hair as such, and even accentuates more. But I think obviously he's got a receiving core that's pretty darn good. He really does. And I do think that, like we're talking about earlier in the day, AJ and Andy made each other better, and I think AJ appreciates Andy for that, and I think Andy appreciates AJ for that. That was like, you know, the old peanut butter and jelly. They're good apart, they're better together. And that's what those

two guys were like. And I hope, you know, Joe Burrow and t Higgins start to form the same type of thing. I mean, they're good at part, they're better together. And hopefully they're going to have big seasons like Andy Dalton AJ Green did. Obviously they're not going to go to the playoffs in their rookie years like those two guys did, but might as well start in year two, you know, and start to build on something and see

if it works out that way. But you know, and Andy Dalton is a guy that that you can win football games with you really can win a lot of

football games with Andy Dalton. You mentioned it more than once, you know, during during the broadcast, and that, you know, fifty and twenty five, fifty twenty five and one, he had won two games for every loss before breaking his thumb before breaking stumb, seventy six games played before breaking stump, fifty wins, twenty five losses in the tie with today's loss, the Bengals now since that period, they're almost two losses

for every win. It's exactly that. Fifty four losses, twenty seven wins and a couple of times just turns it around. I mean, you know, you just turn the whole scenario around. So they're a five hundred football team in that span, and it's like before fracture after fracture. And that tells you that when you have a healthy Andy Dalton who can execute your offense, you can win football games if you have any kind of a defensive football team and

special teams that aren't killing you. But the Bengals right now offensively, with with you know, Brandon at quarterback, it's like, just don't screw it up. What he didn't screw it up? Three straight fumbles three straight possessions. I mean, you know, you give up short field sixteen yards. Field goal defense is a good job, you know, they minimize the damage. Then you're going you're approaching the red zone fumbling and they take it back seventy plus for a touchdown. Are

you kidding me? I mean, down down ten, nothing and they've got sixteen yards and you've got over one hundred yards offense. You have no points and they've got sixteen. They got ten on the board. That that kind of stuff is just you just it makes you. It makes you queasy, makes you football sick. Really, it's a dream come true kind of day for Andy Dalton, and at least statistically, it was a pretty good day for aj Green.

He can't be happy with a thirty to seven loss, but targeted seven times, six catches, sixty two yards and a touchdown, his second touchdown catch of the year. He's now one shy of Chad Johnson's all time franchise record. But it was interesting listening to aj Green after the game. Asked numerous questions about his future, and while he didn't come right out and say this is the end of my time in Cincinnati, it's certainly felt like that's what

he was implying. Yeah, I mean I think that that he's thinking, Okay, they'll give me eighteen million dollars almost this year, you know, and or maybe you've sent a little more on camera. It's seventeen point whatever or eighteen point whatever. But it's a lot as a franchise tagged receiver.

So at that point, unless the Bengals tag him again, which I don't think they're going to do, no question, they're not going to do that, I think at that point in time, he'll be testing the market and it might be back here in Cincinnati, it might be elsewhere. He realizes that. So I don't think he's gonna, you know, no skin is gonna come off his nose about it until he has to start to go through that process.

But I do think that part part if you can't help but start to reflect back because it could be coming close to the very end of his career here in Cincinnati. And I do think, you know, watching him in the early stages of some football games here when he was shut out no targets or one target, no catch, he would win early, and then when he didn't get the football, he get really frustrated about it. You could

see it in his body language. Did he get very frustrated that he wasn't getting it when he was winning? And the fact that he won early in this football game and he got the football early, I think helped him. And then you know, when they lined up in the way they lined up in the red zone, you thought there might be a touchdown possibility for aj Green and Brandon Allen saw the same thing and delivered it up.

Next a Monday night home game against the Steelers as the Bengals try to end a streak of eleven consecutive losses to Pittsburgh. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now time for this week's fun Facts segment, where you get to know the person under the pads. Time for some fun facts with linebacker Logan Wilson from

the Cowboy State, Wyoming, more specifically Casper, Wyoming. Logan, I'm guessing that most of the people in our audience have never been to Casper. Described your hometown. It will be what we would call the windy city of Wyoming. Although Wyoming is very windy, as a state. Caspers one of the windier cities in Wyoming. We are the second biggest city in wo behind Cheyenne, of about sixty thousand people, So not very big by any means, but definitely big

for a wyomingtown. So sixty thousand is not exactly tiny. Obviously. Did you grow up in a neighborhood with quite a few other families or did you have a lot of property. We grew up in a neighborhood, you know. I lived about I think it was like two or three blocks from my elementary school, so I used to walk to elementary school, and then I went to Junior High on

the west side. I lived on the west side of Casper and kind of grew up with all those people and then went to high school sports with those guys as well. And then I was lucky enough to play college football with one of my high school friends that I grew up with. Since I moved to Casper, I wasn't born in Casper. I was born in Aberdeen, South Dakota, and then I lived in Cody for a little bit prior to moving to Casper. We're doing fun facts with

Logan Wilson. I understand that your dad was an accomplished college wrestler. He is in the Dickinson State University Hall of Fame. Is that where your love of sports came? Yeah, my dad was. He pushed me to be not only a good athlete, but also a great student. Um. And I think that the thing that my dad always did was he never let me settle for anything I ever achieved or anything I ever underachieved. You know, whatever, if I got any awards or any successes, is his mottel

was always that's great, now keep working hard. But he would always reiterate that keep working hard mentality. And I think that that's probably, you know, something that he learned along his athletic career, and um, he definitely instilled that in me. When did you begin dreaming of a career in pro football? What's funny is a lot of people don't know, is I never even wanted to play tackle football when I was little. I enjoyed playing flag football

better than I did worrying about contact stuff. And then you know, the more I played it, the more my love for the game grew. And I think really once I got to college into my second or third year, is when I realized I might have an opportunity to play into the in the NFL, and I just kind of let it take care of itself. You know, I never really worried about it. UM, never really stressed about it. Just kind of focused on what was in front of me at the time. And here I am. We're chatting

with Logan Wilson. Your high school is the alma mater a former US Vice President Dick Cheney. Is there a big Dick Cheney display at your alma mater? And is that a big point of pride for students that went there. Our high school stadium is called Cheney Alumni Field, So yeah, there's that's It's pretty cool. UM having that background, knowing someone like that on that level of um social status, you know, UM that has gone to our high school is really cool and really unique. You know, not a

lot of high schools across the country. You're able to say that. From there, it was on to the University of Wyoming and Laramie, about one hundred and fifty miles from home. Was it always your dream to play for the Brown and Gold. Yeah, for me, it was. UM. I had an offer from we were State early on in my recruiting, but ultimately I wanted to play at

the University of Wyoming. Um. You know, they had just gotten a new coach in Craig Bowl and who's still there right now at the time, and he just seemed like a really good guy to play for. And as a Wyoming kid, you you kind of grow up with the dreaming about the opportunity of representing the Brown and Gold. Because a lot of people don't realize that Wyoming, the University of Wyoming is our only in state university and

it's kind of like Wyoming's ProTeam. So the whole state rallies behind all the athletics at University of Wyoming, and I think that that's what makes the University of Wyoming so unique. What was the best part of your college experience? I mean, really all of it. You know, I wouldn't be where I am today without anything that ever happened. But I think that one of the best parts about playing college football was just kind of getting to know

people from all sorts of different backgrounds. You know, we had guys from California, Texas, Colorado, Nebraska. I mean, there's people from pretty much everywhere Florida that come to the University of Wyoming and don't get me wrong. The University of Wyomings Town is not like a it's it's a college town, is the best way to say it. Um. You know, I think there's thirty thousand plus people. That's including the student population, so it's not very big by

any means, and so it's not for everyone. Plus, it gets really cold, and a lot of people don't like to play in the cold. So it's very unique. And I think that that's what was really cool is everyone kind of bonded coming there for that one ultimate goal to win some football games. So your college teammates for three years included Josh Allen, the quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. How excited are you to see the success he's having

in the NFL. I love seeing it. I love seeing any any one of my former teammates and having the success that they do. But him, specifically, to be the highest draft at Wyoming University of Wyoming football player we've ever had and to be representing not only himself but the University of Wyoming and the way he has been doing is very awesome for our state. You know, our state loves him. He's represented it with class, and you know, we just he's just one of those kids that you

would wish nothing but successful. So you were a defensive back in high school and put out about fifty pounds to be an outstanding linebacker in college? How did you gain the weight? Didn't happen overnight. It was a process for sure, you know. I got to the University of Whiming at about one hundred and ninety five pounds and just kind of took a day by day. And by the time I was playing, after I read shirted, I

was my ret shirt. Freshman year, I think I was about two fifteen, and then my sophomore year, I was about two thirty. Then my junior year, I was about two fifty, and then my senior year I was about back down to two forty. But it was just kind of a process. Have eaten eaten right way. You're not trying to put on bad weight and stuff that fat that's going to slow you down. It's I worked with my nutritionists and it was just a long process. But

Coach Bull's whole programs about developing developing kids. You know, we're not gonna recruit the We're not going to get those five star kids who have already you know they're ready to go in and play right away, and so they have the tools available at the University of Wyming. It's just a matter of whether or not you use them correctly. Were there are a ton of protein shakes? Were you eating peanut butter and jelly before you went

to bed. I've heard stories of guys that, you know, had to do whatever it took to keep some of that weight on. Yeah, I mean it was a lot of protein shakes, for sure, protein shakes at night when you're full. You had the pound one just to just to be able to maintain that weight. It was just kind of a sacrifice, so to say, you kind of have to stretch your stomach so that you could hold down that food. You were the first pick of the third round in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Describe your

draft experience. Not what I expected, so to say, in terms of COVID and you know, not being able to go kind of be in Vegas for the draft and celebrate with my family. So but that was something that's out of my control and I enjoyed it every moment of it, being with my family and Casper. It was a very opportunity of a lifetime and very thankful it happened, you know, it was just it's surreal and like, I think, the best way I described it is, I was I

couldn't describe it. There's just so many emotions that went through your head, you know, and it's just kind of I think that's just the nature of having this opportunity, this lifelong dream that so many kids dream about doing, and you actually having it right in front of you and just trying to take the take advantage of it. A few more fun facts for Logan Wilson. Who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport? I don't know. Growing up, I was a because I was in Wyoming,

I was. I grew up a Broncos fan, so I was a huge Champ Bailey fan because I also played defensive back. I never played lineback until I got to college, but I would probably a Jam Bailey. What do you like to spend your money on? You know, I'm pretty smart about my money, um, and I'm stingy so to say in a way, UM, I usually like to spend my money on my dogs, my girlfriend, and um, maybe some clothes here and there that i'd like to to get. So I like to help people around me as well

when when needed dogs plural. Yes, we just got we just got another puppy. So we have a Golden rechiever and a German shepherd. What is your guilty pleasure when it comes to food? What do you have a hard time saying? No? Too salty sweets like a salted caramel. Oh, that's that's a tough one to pass up. How about it? Take five? If you had to take five? I haven't in a while. Have you ever had to watch McCall? Yeah? Those things are good too. Yeah, I like the combo

of salt and sweet. I'm with you, Yes, that's why I like to take five. It's got the pretzel hidden in the candy bar. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. All right. Final fun fact for Logan Wilson. If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, whatever, who would that be? I would say the Rock, the Rock, Yeah, for the wrestling or the acting, I would say the acting.

And this is the way that he handles his business like he's always it seems like he's always in the weight room managing all of his acting stuff whatever, you know, whatever he's got going on in his life, he always seems to find a way to I don't know. That's also from a social media perspective, of course, but he just seems like a very down to earth dude. I also know a guy who was on the Titan Games and so who got to be He actually to meet him and he said he's a very down to earth guy,

which is which is awesome. I like, I really enjoy being around people like that. So well, the Rock was a college football player at the University of Miami, so a similar career could be in your future. Something I don't know. I don't know how well I do it acting, but you know, we never know. We'll see. All right, you're off the hot seat. I appreciate your time. Best to luck the rest of the year. Thank you very much.

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