Bengals Booth Podcast: Closing Time

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You've probably seen the video clip from the locker Room that went viral on Sunday, in which b J. Hill stands up for teammate Joseph Osai. Osai was understandably devastated after getting called for the unnecessary roughness penalty with eight seconds to go that helped the Chiefs kick their game winning field goal. When reporters approached Osai after the game, Hill stood next to his friend and intercepted questions that

he thought were unnecessarily intrusive or insensitive. He didn't prevent people from doing their jobs, but he supported a teammate under tough circumstances. Here are Jesse Bates and Zach Taylor. After seeing that video, I love that he did that pung because I know Joseph how much work he puts into this and he had no ill intensons one doing that to just play a hard his plan doing his one eleven that we talked about all year in that defensive room, and it's unfortunate that had to come down,

and that it's not the reason why we lost. It's good that bj as a veteran, is able to step in and be there for Joseph because he is a young guy. I mean, I don't want him to think that, you know, year two, this is where his year two ends, and that's gonna write his whole legacy being in the NFL. No. I told him to go back to work and don't have another opportunity. Don't let that rite, you know, don't make him label who you are based off that play. And I have no doubt he'll bounce back from it.

The things that get highlighted usually are what happens at the end of the game, but there's certainly at least one thing every coach and every player wishes we would have done differently in that game. I'm to a man, and so it was awesome to see those guys support each other. I'm in a really tough, tough moment, and you know, Joseph's a guy who who leaves his hard and soul and the I'm gonna feel every single day, whether it's some practice or in games, and so I

appreciate that about him. Joseph Osai is twenty two years old and absolutely delightful to talk to, and Sunday's game might not have been tied with less than a minute to go if Osai had not played great up to that point. If you would like to get to know Joseph better, I'll end this podcast with an encore presentation of My fun Fact's interview with him from earlier this year. It was back in Week ten, So if you didn't

catch it, then you'll want to catch it now. Being in the locker room on Monday was unlike any day after the final game that I can remember. It was like guys didn't want to leave. They were playing ping pong, sitting in small clusters, talking and laughing and signing jerseys to swap. It was an unusually tight group. After an O and two start, the Bengals went fourteen and three the rest of the way, including a franchise record ten game winning streak. Four of their five losses came on

walk off field goals. Here's Zach Taylor. You immediately feel tired this morning because you're always prepping yourself one more week, one more week, and coffee cat, whatever you gotta do to keep yourself going and the excitement, and then when it ends, you just get sick for two weeks everybody and your body just shuts down. And I'm sure that's

that's the point I'll hit tomorrow. But I am doing my best just to appreciate, you know, all the other things you just mentioned that this team's accomplished this year, and there's a lot to be proud of, and again, it can still two things can be true. It can still sting, and you can still be really proud of what this group accomplished and really proud of this group as he should be. The Bengals won back to back

division titles for the first time in franchise history. For newcomers like offensive lineman Ted Harris and Alex Kappa, their first year in Cincinnati confirmed to them that they made a great choice in free agency. I had a fantastic sick time. I think this is an amazing culture, fun offense, to be a part of, fun team, to be a part of reflecting we need to do I need to do personally. Just you know, you look back at the season and you think about the little things that you

could have tweaked in that game. I'm not gonna let it. You know, no one's gonna let it fester. The game went how it was. But just really grateful to be here. It was a great opportunity. Hopefully made the most of it and um, you know, hopefully get another shock to get back to a championship game in twenty twenty three. I've had a lot of fun. I thought, like everyone said,

that's a great locker room, great offensive line room. We had a lot of success, even though it didn't end the way he wanted it to, and I just really enjoyed my hear. Keras has signed for two more years and Kappa is signed for three more, but several key players on the team are due to become free agents, including Jesse Bates, Von Bell, Hayden Hurst, Jermaine Pratt, Eli Apple, and some I JP Ryan here's Keis. It's like the last day of school. You know, the team's not gonna

be the same. There's gonna be changes on every NFL franchise this season. That is the nature of the business. So guys are gonna have to find their role. We have a lot of I don't know if we have a lot of free agents. We have some guys that are I've been there. This is my first year in four years and I'm not a free agent going into

the offseason, so it's a little different feeling. But I empathize with a lot of the guys that are going to go on a journey, and you know, understand it is a business, but hopefully we can get everyone back and it wants to be here on emotional Jesse Bates met with reporters on Monday, knowing that he may have

played his last game in a Cincinnati uniform. The Bengals negotiated with his agent for a couple of years in hopes of extending his contract, but the two sides could not reach a deal, and Bates played on the franchise tag this season for roughly thirteen million dollars. If Jesse does move on, he's thankful for his five seasons in Cincinnati. I was struck by You're used to the word gratitude yesterday after the game. It seemed like that really hit

home for you. Like I said, it's it's cool to be part of something special, UM, something that it's hard. It's hard. UM an emotional about it for a long time, Still numb to it. UM. Oh yeah, Like you said, gratitude is a word that I can really describe about everything that happened here. UM. Over my past five years being here, UM, I learned so much about myself, learned so much about the game, I learned so much about Cincinnati. UM.

And I'm just so thankful for everybody I ran into. UM, inside this building, outside this building, UM, I've created some very special relationships UM at a last minute life. And that's all you can ask for when you when you come to an end, if something, um, if you left it better than when you came in. And I think that I played a good part of that. And I'm not the only reason for that. I know my brothers in this locker room, years in and years out, UM

had a lot to do with that as well. And uh, like I said, I can't dwell on anything because I know, like I said, I love my teammates. Every year, when it was bad, I loved him, it was good, I loved him. Um. Like I said, I'm just thankful. So I love was mutual. What was some of that comments that you received from some of those guys yesterday and today? You know, everybody knows, you know what's going on. Unfortunately

that's part of this business. And uh, you know, you spend so much time together over so many years, and sometimes it has to come to an end. I don't know. I'm not saying that this is the end of everything, but we know that there's a possibility. And it's my first time being in that instance where I may not be here, you know, so any other year I was able to process Oh, maybe we can come back next

year and do this thing all over again. But like I said, I learned a lot from being here in Cincinnati, a lot from everyone that I've came in contact with. And all I can say, I'm thankful because that loss hurt even more because of your personal situation. No, I don't. I don't want to take it away from um, you know, just being in my personal situation, this hurts for everybody. I love that everyone had for each other, whether this

is their last year or not. This is the last time that this team will be together as a whole, and we've been able to get through a lot of tough this year that normally you don't go through as a team. UM, I'm just proud man. As just I can just keep rumbling about this team and rumbling about my time here. But uh, like I said, at the end of the day, I'm just thankful. I think that UM I showed UM how to be a leader, how to be UM the same guy every day, UM, even

when you're not going your way. UM. I could have easily came in here on a franchise tag and been a cancer to this team. UM. We started off owing two. I could have went to the media, they want to get traded. Um, but no, I didn't like I said. I love my teammates no matter whether it was going good or bad. And UM, I think that if anything, I could have left here and that's what I would. UM. Hopefully a lot of people got that from me. Was no matter what, UM, come in here every day and

just work. Um, whether it working your way or not. UM, try to do your best and be here for your team and the ultimate goal of the team. And uh, we'll see what happens after that defensive coordinat Lou in a room, are you guys seem to be extremely close both ways. Yeah, Lou came in when I was a knucklehead thinking I could make every play in the game. Um. The amount of detail work that he taught me. M. I used to go home like, man, this new DC doesn't like me. Man, it's dude, don't like me at all.

And just the amount of love that he showed me. Um, it may have not been pat me on my back and just say it's gonna be all right. UM, you know he pushed me. He pushed me two levels that you know coaches never have before. And UM, that's all you can ask for as as as a DC and out of the coach. Um, it's to challenge you every single day. I think he did that and to watch what he created, Um, the culture that he created in

our defense room. I'll be able to, um, you know, take that maybe somewhere else, I'll be able to take that and be a father. I'll be able to do multiple things with stuff that he taught me on the football fool. So UM. Like I said, Man, it's a it's an emotional time to speak about that. But all I can say, I'm thankful for speak so movingly about Cincinnati and about this locker room and your teammates and your culture, and so fans will be wondering about what

it's going to take to keep you here. Would you want to stay here? JESSEP Yeah, Um, I want to be here. Um. Unfortunately, this business. UM, you know, there's different scenarios where I'm not in this situation where I can leave twenty ten million on the table and be okay with that, because it wouldn't be fair to myself, my family, my legacy. UM. But obviously, yes I want to be here, and my family's three hours away from here. UM. Like I said, I created bonds in this locker room,

outside this locker room. UM, so yeah, I want to be here. Answers the question, just you bet on yourself twice or he's glad you didn't. Um. Yeah, I've learned. I've learned a lot about myself. Um these past two years. Man, It's like I said, I could have I could have easily went a different route. Um, been a cancer. UM. But I think it has a lot to do with the people in this locker room. The people in this organization is um. They they brought me in here, and

they know they helped me get through tough times. Uh. I was in shells. I would not talk to anybody UM at times. And UM, like I said, the brotherhood, we haven't here. They got me out of that. And like I said, it's something that you don't know until you know. UM. And I was able to experience that, and I'll be able to use that in different instances of my life. And hopefully I was able to show some of the younger guys how to handle those tough situations.

So yeah, I'm thankful that I was able to bet on myself and thankful that I was able to be healthy. It's the main part of that. When you're good enough to make the playoffs, the end of the season is so abrupt. But with this team, the ten game winning street one game from the super Bowl, does it almost seem surreal that you don't have another game in two weeks. Yeah, when you don't lose a game since what was a Halloween, I think it was, um, you kind of forget the

feeling of losing. I mean, we got on the plane last night and just being around these dudes made stuff feel a lot better and made made me feel like we were going back into meetings the following week. So yes, it's tough. It's tough. It's tough, and like I said, it's it just shows how important a love bond, close knitted group can get you through multiple things. And even though it's the end of it for this year, like I said, you still see guys playing ping pong, You

still see guys talking on the plane. And that's what we play this game for, is to you know, take care of our families obviously, and build relationships that will last you a lifetime. And I think we've done that here. Great stuff from Jesse Bates the Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by Cattering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. With more than one hundred twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, Cattering Health is committed

to guiding you to your best health. Visit cattering health dot org to learn more. As I noted earlier, Bates is not the only member of the secondary you could be headed the free agency. Von Bell, Eli Apple and Trey Flowers are also on the list. Here's Shitaba wo Je, who has one year left on his deal. Every season is different, every every team's different, and I think we've been blessed the past two years to be a part of the defense that kept as nucleus for you know,

two years. That's a long time for most teams. So yeah, we've definitely been spoiled. But at the same time, we've built something special here so that you know, when new faces come, they know what the standard is, they know what we expect, They know the culture in this locker room, and yeah, we need to bring in the right people that can respond to that culture and not you don't disrespect it because it's something special that will always keep us bonded. The people that were on this past team,

past two teams together. Your description of kind of the business of the NFL was obviously very realistic, but it sounds like there is a tinge of sadness in your voice. It's that accurate. So tends of everything in my voice right now because I'm still processing everything. But obviously I know that being in the NFL for this amount of time, you don't have you never have the same team, you know, you know what I'm saying. So this team's chapter is closed.

It's closed, it's over. The brotherhood never stops, but the chapter of chasing what our goal was is over, and that's the reality that we all have to deal with until next year. We don't know who will be here, who won't be here, So I can't speculate or guess, you know. So it's just that's just a matter of time until those things happen and then we can react. There will be changes. But this was the youngest playoff roster before team teams that made it and you have Burrow.

Is there that feeling that the core group here is going to be able to compete for the top Yeah, you know, obviously football has a funny way of humbling you. But if gods stay healthy, the mindset that we have, everything will workout. I think year after year, you know. But obviously football is a funny way of humbling you. So I don't want to you know, confirm or you know,

guarantee anything. So but that's my expectation. Zach says he doesn't consider himself to be the greatest speaker, but it seems like he always has a message that resonates with guys. Is there anything he said, whether it was after the game yesterday or today in the final meeting that resonated with you? I mean he said, he said a few things. Um. Number one thing is to be proud of what we accomplished as a team. Um. I think when you create a new normal for a team, it's hard to like

your your your emotions changed. Like obviously, before I die here, I didn't know the culture of this team, but um, they had a normal, right and maybe just a little bit better than normal would have been a win. But we surpassed that normal by a lot. So now like it's like our new normal is what we've been doing. And um, even though it feels bad, like if you get where a lot of where we were as a team, a couple of years ago, Like, this is a good

new normal. So, um, I think you know, he he definitely show that miss his home that we should be proud of what we've accomplished. Obviously we left a lot of meat on the bone, but um, there's a lot things that we did that were that were great. The new normal for the Bengals is to begin next season is one of the top four or five teams in the NFL. The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you

by pay Corps. More than twenty nine thousand customers trust pay Corps to help them recruit, pay, engage, and retain employees. Learn more at paycorps dot com. Here's one more short Exit Day interview. It's with wide receiver Trenton Irwin, who went from being a three year practice squad staple to becoming one of Joe burrows trusted targets day. Like, this

is strange to me because it's so abrupt. You feel like that train is rolling towards the Super Bowl and all of a sudden, you guys are shaking hands and walking out. Yeah, especially the way that ended. You know, if you got blown out, you're gonna have to think about oh we might not, but like I felt like everything was rolling our way, like we had every piece we needed. It was coming up short, you know, a couple of players and one of those things that it's

crazy to you just go. You got a whole off season think about it. But you know, hopefully everyone gets back to there, gets back to thing, take a couple of weeks off, they get back to work. Going into the season, there was some thought out there nationally that maybe the Bengals aren't legit, maybe last year super Bowl run is a little bit freakish. Nobody can say that. Now, do you feel like you've clearly established that the Bengals

are right there at the top of the NFL. You know, I'm I'm almost speak from the heart and saying that. I don't think really a whole lot of people care about what everyone's saying outside of here. You know, I think we all all believe that or that type of team. You know, we have the pieces to be able to go in everything. So I mean that's just sort of who we are as a group. So you know, we're you know, people are gonna say what they're gonna say,

good and bad, and we appreciate you. The one, But we're gonna be who we are and I think we got a lot coming this socker room. Of the fourteen teams that made the playoffs, this is the youngest roster. There will be changes, there always are, but the nucleus is going to be back and it's strong. Yeah. No, I'm one hundred sign with you. We gotta I got a tight group and that's that's one thing we gotta keep maintaining through the years. What did Zach say to

the team? What was his final message? You know, Um, it's one of those things, like you said, it was abrupt. It's a tough ending, but there's a lot to learn from. There's a lot of good things that came from this year, and you know, that's the way it goes in the playoffs. We play a lot of good teams and sometimes things roll one way or the other, and you know, we gotta just keep doing our best thing, keep taking our next best step. Set a franchise record with ten straight wins.

It's the first team to win playoff games and back to back years in this team's history. Do you feel like there wor a lot of great accomplishments that you'll remember. Definitely, good accomplishments. You know, I don't think a lot of this team knows nothing but that type of excellence. You know, we're just trying to go out there and win games, and one tenth straight could have one eleventh straight to go to the freaking ball. So I mean, we came up last week, have on one short. I guess we're

too short this year. But you know, we just got to keep learning and keep growing and take that next step. Rats in a great year. Thank you. The Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets and signed merchandise up for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals app. Finally, as promised, an encore edition of My Fun Facts interview with second

year defensive lineman Joseph Osai. Time for some fun facts with Joseph Osai, who was raised near Houston but born in Nigeria. What do you remember about your early childhood years back in Africa? A lot of rain, um, a lot of sin, a lot of soccer, you know what I mean, Soccer after school that was fun with the neighborhood kids and then um, just being happy with my family. Of course we went through some things, but overall being happy. Your family essentially won a lottery to get visas to

come to the US. Correct sir, Absolutely explain how that works. Just like any lottery. You know, there's a there was a powerball I think lottery last night and people were scrambling to win that. But um yeah, just like any lottery. Um, you play, you win. If you win. Instead of getting money, you get free citizenship. So that's what that's what we did. You were ten years old, were you heartbroken to leave home and leave your friends behind or were you excited

about coming to the US. It was a bit of sweet for sure. Bitter sweet, m excited about the US. Grew up watching home alone. You know, I thought every single New York I mean US city and state was like New York. So I was super excited to eat pizza and burgers and all that. But yeah, definitely said about leaving my friends that I grew up with, but my family was with me, and then that's that was

my piece of home that I brought with me. Were visiting the joseph Osai, there had to be some culture shock. I would imagine what stands out absolutely everything every single details about going to school, the clicks in schools them from like I mentioned, Sam being everywhere in Nigeria. No saying here, you know what I mean, just concuting grass.

So that was that was that, and then just learning how to communicate a lot of things and then over it definitely took us multiple years to figure it out, but you know that was all part of growing and learning. Have you ever been back? I have not, but I need to. My dad goes back all the time though, but I've just never had time, you know, with football and growing up, I was always involved in summer activities like summer track and basketball and stuff like that, so

I never really got the chance, but hopefully soon. How important we're sports in helping you blend in very important. They allowed me to make my first group of friends, you know, playing playing playing football at recess at the back of the school. That's where I was able to game friends. Because then it's not they don't care if you can you have an action, or if you know how to do this or not how to say this.

They just care about or you good athlete? Did you score the game winning touchdown before the recess bell blue? You know what I mean so yeah that sports. Sports was a huge part of me integrating and gaining friends. But your mom did not want you to play football, correct, she did not. She did not. She was too rough for her. She wouldn't mean to focus on my studies

as every African parent does. But yeah, she she didn't come to a game all of junior, junior, high all of um up until junior in high schools when she first came to her game, and she was she praised the rosary like the whole way through the game. So she is still a very violent sport for her, but she's learned to accept it. So during the course of the game, she's as nervous as can be, as nervous as can be, she's constantly praying. She just super scared.

But you know, she's she's she's adapted over the years. She's not as bad as she used to be, for sure. We're doing fun facts with Joseph Osai. You attended oak Ridge High School and we're a coveted recruit. What was the recruiting process like for you? It was it was a brand new thing, um, because I'd never I didn't even you know, that was a thing first of all, and you know, Texas being a just a big football state. You know, playing football there is interesting for sure, I'll

say that. So, um, it was. It was wild. I tried to thank you. I had my family around me and they didn't know anything about things, so there was no pressure to go here or there. But they we kept a level ahead and we tried to move through logically and write everything down, make sure we were making the right decision, not decisions based off of what color uniform or school had or how much they could wool you in the recruiting you know what I mean recruiting world.

But um, I definitely had some good people around me. My coaches too, were did a good job of helping me, like because they had been through whatever, and they said, look, you gotta take things into consideration and do this, do this. Make sure you have your grades right still, because just because you have the letters coming in doesn't mean you're accepted. You still have to have a good grades to get into these schools and stuff like that. So yeah, it was,

it was. It was. It was amazing, but again it was as part of the process. It was dope. You chose the University of Texas, you spent three years with the Longhorns. What did you enjoy most about the college experience? Game day? Game day in Texas is just amazing. Um and uh just and it's a lot better here too. But um, I know, some some pros some locker rooms they don't even there's no commodity. I don't know if I said that word camaraderie. Camaraderie. There's no camaraderie with um.

With teammates, they as soon as they're done with practice, they just shoot out. But what I enjoyed most about college was um, hanging out after practices. You know, we all were going to the same dorms, we all were living the same lives and stuff like that. It's a lot better here in this locker room, for sure. You know there's we hang out and play ping pong all the time. But just that family mentality is what I

love the most about college. You know, just a bunch of guys grinding and trying to get to the next level. There was there was something special about that. For sure. You had a great career. The Bengal selected you in the third round of last year's draft. Describe your draft experience. It was a lot of a lot of a lot of mixed emotions, man, because you know, there's expectations and

then there's what actually happens. And overall, I was just thankful, excited, man, because then as I kept watching the draft, there or some people that I thought we're gonna get drafted, they didn't get drafted. So I was just super grateful to have been given the chance to go and play at

the next level, you know what I mean. I mentioned me and my college teammates grinding and trying to get to that next level, and we had a little group and for me to be one of the first to go and achieved that next level, it was pretty special. So I know they were just know that everybody was super proud of me, and it was it was I can't I can't describe that feeling, man, It was it was.

It was awesome. It was amazing. We're chatting with Joseph O. Say, in your NFL preseason debut, you famously sacked Tom Brady. You had a great game, but you suffered knee and elbow injuries in that game, and mister rookie season, how difficult was it emotionally last year? Knee and risk injury? And it was it was one of the worst things I've ever had to go through, And um, I got to actually, you got actually that question a lot during the pre draft process, what is the worst thing You've

ever had to go through? And nothing came to mind because I came from a good family. You know, me and my family pretty close, Um, I mean, not in a broken home. So I've never had none of my close relatives of close family members I've ever died, so I really actually never had that thing to say. You know, I would just say not playing football durning COVID was pretty hard, but um, this is pretty terri you know

what I mean. And having gone through that and now trying to come out through the other side, it's it's really awesome to see that I could work through that, and my mentality a thought like waivered a bit. It's still the same and I'm still striving to be where I am. I know you're close with your family. Was that the key to getting through it? Of course? Of course talking to them mostly almost every day, and then some days I didn't want to talk to them. I

didn't want to talk to anybody. I had my teammates so I couldn't get away from and they picked me up. So um, yeah, it was it was people around me. It just kind of been, um, a very key key point in every my all my life, all my aspect of life, you know, whether it's going through college and going through being transitioned from Nigeria to here, and then every every step of my life, the people around me have played a huge role and helped me get to where I am. All right, we'll wrap it up with

some wild card questions. Now for Joseph Osi, do you have any hidden town once hidden talents. I don't know if this will count as a hidden talents. It's just a he said, a fun fact. When I get tired enough, I sleep with my eyes open. I don't, I don't, like I said, I don't know if it's a hidden talents. It's kind of involuntary. But if I get tired enough,

I will I will sleep with my eyes open. And um, I didn't believe it at first, but my shiblings make sure they recorded recorded some videos of me doing it, so now I believe it. But yeah, if I get tired enough, my eyes will just stay open and say that being asleep. That like sounds like a lizard quality or something. Enough, if you have a little bit of a mixed DNA or something so pretty wild. Yeah, but yeah, that's that's what I can think of right now. All right,

I consider that a hidden talent. On the flip side, is there anything that you will admit to being absolutely terrible at the guitar? I? Um uh. During my injury phase last year, I tried to pick up the guitar. I had a roommate, why Hubert. He was phenomenal at it. He tried to teach me. I am just my fingers are too fat, and I dislocated my left pinky in college, so I can never get it to control and get it. It just it was horrible, it was I got frustrated. It was an impulse buy. First of all, I saw

him play one night. I bought the thing. After a week, I gave it back to him. I was done with that thing. Yeah, A horrible a playing the guitar. You might have to try trombone or a trumpet, something with less. I was a percussionist in the fifteen sixth grade. I don't know why I didn't pick up the piano or something like that, but that's what it is. Who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport and why dda drug grew up he's a professional soccer player. Grew

up watching him playing soccer. You know, I mentioned soccer bean in Houston in Nigeria. So watched him play, watched him time and time again do what d did, do what it takes to win, put his team on his back, and I just I loved it. What do you like to spend your money on my family? I spent a lot of my money in my family, and I don't mind it, you know, I just I just like taking care of him, like being that kind of playing that

caretaker role. I believe that my family, my mom and dad, have been through a lot, and by God's grace, I'll be able to keep taking care of him for as long as I need to. All right, final fun fact, this one's a little bit deep. If you could meet anybody in history, who would that person be? I would like to because I know there's a lot of speculation about who built the pyramids. I like to go back and just take a peek. I maybe not even meet him,

but just see how they did it. If it truly is with you know, sticks and levers and whatever the right or if it was with something else some technology that's lost who knows, you know what I mean? And the way those stones were cus did they do it with water? Did they have a system where they ran water through a finite point and it just cut through the zone, because I know water is very strong with

a strong current. I don't know. Yeah, So I definitely like to go meet whoever built the pyramids and just chat with them. That's a tremendous answer. And trust me, the first person to say they would like to see the pyramids being built, this is a great conversation. I really appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest of

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