S01E156: Everyone Likes Group Think, You’ll Love It

It's between, well, yeah, we would have to fly through Denver. But it's like 35 minutes south of Denver, I want to say. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. Well, I have some documents here. Do you have the documents? I can hear the documents. This is a rarity. We don't often have paper notes for the show unless it's coming from a book. Uh-huh. Um, this is a- this is an essay that was handed to me by anonymous producer titled The Ways We Lie by Stephanie Erickson. Are you familiar with this piece of material?

I don't believe I am. This is an essay detailing different forms of lying that I thought, uh, well, the producer thought would be interesting to bring to the show because, well, if you're going to have schemes, then well, you better be ready to lay down some lies, right? Mm-hmm. Different kinds of lying. Yeah. And, you know, the author, Stephanie, lists out how many is there? There's one, two, three, four, five, six. Seven, eight, uh, eight different categories.

And we don't want to have to do them all. We'll maybe do three. Eight different flavors of lying. Yeah. Um. Interesting. It reminds me of the- there's like the seven methods of seduction as well. Or the seven habits of highly successful people. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Or the seven sexy dwarves. Yes. Uh, now the essay starts off with the author describing her day and how she goes about lying throughout it.

Tells her bank that, uh, her deposit for- with a check was in the mail, even though she hadn't written the check yet. Um, she was late to a business meeting because she was tired and told the client that she was held up in traffic. Uh, when her partner came home, his haggard face told me his day hadn't gone any better than mine. So when he asked, how was your day, I said, oh, fine, knowing that one more straw might break his back. A friend called and wanted to take me to lunch.

I said, I was busy four lies in the course of a day, none of which I felt the least guilty about. And further on down, she continues, I once tried a whole week without telling a lie and it was paralyzing. I discovered that telling the truth all the time is nearly impossible. It means living with some serious consequences. She lists out the various consequences to the- to the- to the stuff that she was going through the day, whether it be the bank charging her $60 and overdraft fees.

Uh, her partner keels over for- when she tells him, uh, her frustrations from the day, client fires her so on and so forth. Uh, but if I justify lying, what makes me any different from slick politicians or the corporate robbers that rated the SNL industry? Saying it's okay to lie, uh, one way and not- uh, not another is hedging. And then she has a- the webster's definition of the lie or of lie. And it says a false statement or action, especially made with the intent to deceive.

Anything that gives or is meant to give false impression, a definition like this implies that there are many, many ways to tell- oh, excuse me, that's not more of the definition. Uh, anything that gives or is meant to give a false impression. I'm curious what the current definition of lies is based off of, uh, who was it, Webster? Something that- that, uh, far alt-right people do. Oh, it's the Miriam Webster dictionary now.

And- uh, in transit of verb, to be or to stay at rest in a horizontal position. Hmm, lay down. Interesting. I'm gonna lay down. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Uh, to assume a horizontal position, to reside temporary, to have sexual intercourse to remain inactive, uh, to be in a helpless or defenseless- defenseless state. Interesting. Uh, to have direction. Oh, my God. Where is the- I'm reading these- Where's the definition you're looking for?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm reading these off in order to have direction to occupy a certain relative place or position, to have a place in a relation to something else, to- to have an effect through mere presence weight or relative position to be sustainable or, uh, admissible, to remain at anchor or be calm to have place, uh, to remain. What's going on here? I don't see any definitions, uh, noun, no? I found the Oxford definition for it. Here it is. To make an untrue statement with the intent to deceive.

Uh, in the- the- this article, by the way, is written in 1992. And at the time, the first definition was a false statement or action, especially made with the intent to deceive. The new one? To make an untrue statement with intent to deceive. Well, they still got the intent in there. An untrue statement, an untrue statement, kind of vague. Uh, yeah, and the original was a false statement or action, especially made with intent to deceive.

Now there's just- this is just an untrue statement, but your actions can't lie. I- I like this Oxford, uh, phrasing a little better, which is, it lies a statement not in accordance with the mind of the speaker. Oh, that's a real definition or word. I think- I think I like that because it actually has a point of reference as opposed to being untrue, which is- it's the- to be true or untrue, how do you- how do you get to that? What- what form of logic do you use?

Can you- If it's not in accordance with the mind of the speaker, well then that's- Hit me with that definition again. A lie is a statement not in accordance with the mind of the speaker, made with the intention of deceiving. Hmm. In accordance. Very interesting. I like that. Yes. Yes. Um, so let's- let's get into some of these definitions here. I'm gonna save the one that I wanna do for last, and I'll read off the other seven, and you tell me which one's struck your fancy.

We have facades, we have ignoring the plain facts. We have omission, we have groupthink, we have stereotypes and cliches, we have out and out lies, we have dismissal, delusion, and that was it. I like groupthink. Groupthink. Big hit. Everybody's into it, funny enough. Everybody likes groupthink. Everybody. And you will too. Excuse me for a second as I pull out my sticky pad and everyone likes groupthink. Nice. Um, you said groupthink. Okay. And it starts with the quotes.

Who is more foolish, the child afraid of the dark or the man afraid of the lights? Maurice Freehill. Irving. Irving Yannis, in victims of groupthink, defines this sort of lies a psychological phenomenon with decision-making groups in which loyalty to the group has become more important than any other value, with the result that dissent in the appraisal of alternatives are suppressed. If you've ever worked on a committee or in a corporation, you've encountered groupthink.

It requires a combination of other forms of lying, ignoring facts, selective memory, omission, and denial to name a few. That's a one-stop shop all for all your lying needs. The textbook example of groupthink came on December 7, 1941. From as early as the fall of 1941, the warnings came in one after another that Japan was preparing for a massive military operation. The Navy command in Hawaii assumed Pearl Harbor was invulnerable.

The Japanese weren't stupid enough to attack the United States' most important base. On the other hand, racist stereotypes said that the Japanese weren't smart enough to invent a torpedo effective in less than 60 feet of water. The fleet was docked at 30 feet. After all, US technology hadn't been able to do it. On Friday, December 5, normal weekend leave was granted to all commanders at Pearl Harbor, even though the Japanese consulate in Hawaii was busy burning papers.

Within the tight, good ol' boy, Cohesimness of the US command in Hawaii, the myth of invulnerability stayed well entrenched. No one in the group considered the alternatives. The rest is history. I think I take a little issue with the example in this one being Hawaii with it being groupthink, because they had four warnings. I don't like the example at all, because we've talked about in the past the idea that Pearl Harbor was orchestrated a little bit.

People at the highest levels of government actually knew that they were going to attack Pearl Harbor and they allowed it to happen as a way to get the United States to break their neutrality and actually enter the war for real. Whether that's true or not, I'm not going to state it, but it's probably likely that that was the case. It's a strange example with that in mind. We really needed cause to go get our... to go get wet dog. These things happen again and again.

I see what they're saying. I see the idea that she's trying to present with this example, which is... It kind of sounds like the Titanic, which is the story that they give with the Titanic, which probably also was sunk on purpose. The idea that this ship is unsinkable, so we don't need to worry about it. Everybody says, oh, it's not unsinkable. Great. You ignore the reality that obviously the ship isn't unsinkable. You allow that delusion to come in and compromise everything.

I'm checking out this... what was it called? Mimmo that's Serb Emeralds. I'm not familiar with this one. I'm calling Mimmo. Here's a wiki source. That's a good one. We should keep that in mind for maybe a few troposodum right now. It would be a great thing to discuss. We have groupthink. You want to continue on that or you want to talk about a different kind of line? I'm curious what the Miriam Webster definition of groupthink is.

A pattern of thought characterized by self-deception, forced manufacturer of consent, and a conformity to groups, values, and ethics. You're going to be sold on a false bill of goods and you'll think that it's probably for the better. Probably the most glaring and controversial example would be the vaccine situation. But that's probably a little too spicy to put into a book right now. Give it time. A little spicy. Of course, 1984 is a classic example of groupthink and literature.

One of my favorites. A good example. The Oxford definition is the practice of thinking of making decisions as a group, especially when this results in bad decisions being made. Kind of like bees. Very hive mind-ish. Bees? Not the bees. Not the bee. That's kind of how we had a clip on groupthink, but it doesn't look like it. Okay. Do you want me to read through the list again? How about delusion? I remember that one. Delusion, that was here. Starts off with a quote.

We lie loudest when we lie to ourselves. Eric Hoffer. I could write the book on this one. Delusion, a cousin of dismissal, is the tendency to see excuses as facts. It's a powerful lying tool because it filters out information that contradicts what we want to believe. Alcoholics who believe that the problem in their lives are legitimate reasons for drinking rather than the results of the drinking offers classic examples of deluded thinking.

Delusion uses the mind's ability to see things in the myriad ways to support what it wants to be the truth. We're making up our own facts here, people. This is George Costanza, a sign-fell. It's not a lie if you believe it. But delusion is also a survival mechanism we all use if we were to fully contemplate. If we were to fully contemplate the consequences of our stockpiles of nuclear weapons, or global warming, we could hardly function on a day-to-day level.

We don't want to incorporate that much reality into our lives because to do so would be paralyzing. Delusion acts as an adhesive to keep the status quo intact. It's shamelessly employs dismissal, omission, and amnesia among other sorts of lies. It's most cunning defense is that it cannot see itself. Another quote, the liar's punishment is that he cannot believe anyone else. Kind of like the 99% of climate scientists. Mm-hmm. The 99% of 10 dentists. There are only a few wait, I'm sorry, is this?

There are only a few, okay, that was it. That was all on delusion. Which I feel like the example listed here for climate change specifically, or global warming, as it was called. In and of itself could be considered depending on which side of the aisle you're on, a delusion. There is no evidence of man-made climate change, but we do have good morning America clips of them discussing silver iodide that they spray in the sky to make a rain.

Right, they talk about the sea levels rising, but we have markers of the sea where the sea has not risen. We have, for example, the Statue of Liberty, which is a little island out of New York. We have pictures of the Statue of Liberty going back at least a century, and the sea level has not gone up at all compared to a hundred years ago. We have that photographic evidence. We have the documents. We have the documents, people. Look up.

Definition of delusion on Miriam Webster, something that is falsely or delusively behind or propagated. Propagated. Persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary. The art of tricking or deceiving someone, the state of being deluded. I like that. The state of being deluded. And we are adding onto my Statue of Liberty, the Bay of Sydney. Yeah, there are a lot of things.

You can take photos of, I guess, sea, no change. Oxford says a false belief or opinion about yourself or your situation. Sorry, I'm writing a note down here. Let's see. The one I was wanting to get into, and this is relevant as a bully steed, it brought it up earlier there in the chats, was the white lies. That was the very first one that Stephanie gets into. And if you're not listening to Mo Fax with Adam Curry, I'm not sure what you're doing, but you should absolutely check that show out.

It's one of my favorites. I'm very sad that it's ending after 100 episodes. Yes, it is sad. It was quite an excellent show that every episode will be considered a classic for all time. And when it comes to show prep and just ways to present information and material, I would say Mo Fax has been by far the biggest influence on myself personally. And every time we just, or every time we go into pull material, just, you know, I think about Mo, think about his flow. Most flow. Yeah, baby.

And it's a heavy flow. From my. Must be that time. All right, white lie. Quote, a man who won't lie to a woman has very little consideration for her feelings. Bergen Evans. A man who won't lie to a woman has very little consideration for her feelings. Yeah, yeah. The white lie assumes that the truth will cause more damage than a simple harmless untruth.

Telling a friend he looks great when he looks like hell can be based on a decision that the friend needs a compliant more, needs a, excuse me, needs a compliment more than a frank opinion. But in effect, it is the liar deciding what is best for the lied to. Ultimately is a vote of no confidence. Safe and effective anybody. It is the act of a subtle. Errogance for anyone deciding what is best for someone else. Yet not all circumstances are so cut and dry.

Take for instance the Sergeant and Viet Nam, who knew one of his men were killed in action, but listed him as missing so that the man's family would receive indefinite compensation instead of the lump sum pittance that the military gives to women and children. His intent was honorable yet for 20 years this family kept their hopes alive unable to move on to a new life. Hmm. And I'm going to try and do this on the fly. Let's see how it works.

I'm using the podverse transcripts tool and I am searching for the section in the episode 92 white lies that they just released this past week. Let's I'm going to play this clip straight from the transcripts. See how it goes. I hope. Go for it. I'm going to try. Lisa's past that's us never mind. Seeing that particular message. And the same time say you're not being replaced. Of course you're not being replaced. No, not at all. But where mom will go I'm going to believe that fine.

What a white lie was. And this is white lies versus fibs. A white lie. Okay, a white lie is a lie that's told in order to be polite in order to not upset someone by telling them the truth. So I told a little white lie. Hmm. I'm not sure about white lies though. But a white lie. Yeah, you you just lie in order to save somebody's feelings. Yeah, a white lie is normally about something that's not very important. And it's you're being polite or being kind.

No, I think you're saving yourself in the embarrassment of telling this person the truth. So a white lie. A harmless trivial lie that is told in order to be polite to avoid hurting someone's feelings, to avoid them being upset by the truth. Let's see a white lie is considered a lie is considered white. If it's for the greater good, if it's good for the society to tell this lie so that society believes it. Yeah. Oh, I love the.

Yeah. I. I think this is one of the more pertinent episodes of MoFax that I've listened to. I just I really think he's nailed the cascading pyramid schemes that fold into one another and just this idea that you don't know any better. So we will provide you solutions to fix the things that we see what's wrong with the world, but we'll call it something else. We'll just say that it's safe and effective or whatever the phrase that pays maybe.

And you know, I think kind of going back to this essay that we were looking at, you know, is it these white lies that engages the group thinking people it's like, oh yeah, boss. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's a good episode. Episode 92. What highly recommended? I like it was a British guy explaining it as well because Lord knows British culture is based on white lies and I imagine no mission as well.

If you were to make a terrible, terrible drink and give it to a British person and they drink it, they would go, I've never had anything like that before. Quite interesting. Yes. Yes. Really? That's a drink. What did you say was in this? Yes. British culture is based on white lies and a mission of people from their cast systems. All right. Anyway. I think that was pretty much everything that I wanted to get to for this article. We hit some, but not all.

I'll see if I can find a link to this and you can check out the full thing. And you know it's real because you can hear those flips people with that paper. Oh my god. What is that hemp? Oh my god. Almost. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. You got any other. Part and thoughts for that one? No. No. Well, quite less. Tell me why lies tell me little white lies. Well, well, well, well, well, that's the cancel that one. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Shit. Yeah. You want to do a scream out? Yeah.

Let's say let me pull that window back open. Here we go. Here's one. So many lessons. So many lessons. So the other day we had a memorial service. And let's see. We were bringing the. Picking up some speaker in my kind of little 4chan mixer that we were borrowing. And then you're bringing this cheap out projector. But still projector. And yeah. So anyway, we get to the venue and it was like, I had 20 minutes to wear something like that.

And the wife and I. And we get there and start kind of setting it up. But we got there. I like to wish ours. And so it should be plenty of time. It's basic. It's just basic system. Just one SM-58 kind of thing. And the connector to the laptop and the laptop to projector kind of deal. Anyway, I get there and get everything out. And I got to plug the cable in the back of the speaker and realize it's just like a jumper. Like it plugs into the speaker.

But it's almost like an unsurcomposed cable like the male plugs for the cable. Has like a sheath around it. So it's almost just like you can just plug a normal power cable into it or that power cable into it. Only with the female or with the male end of the wall. And I was like almost contemplated just like kind of enough that. Circumcizing the cable and sticking them all but I was like no not mine. So. Like okay, I'm ready.

I'm like just can go back to the place like 20 minutes go get the right cable. Yeah, I got to. And then my wife's like open in the projector ready. And she's like power cables right here. I'm like oh my gosh. And I'm like I'm the one who put the project. I don't know who grabbed the projector from our house. And I was last one to use it. And it was kind of last minute thing. We ended up not using it outside like we're playing. And so I just tossed it in there through the box, whatever.

And never proper. Like and then. So I get. Go get the right cable by the place. Go go buy a house. Go get the power cable projector. My wife called like oh hey, where are you at? Can you grab my laptop? Yeah. And I was frustrated driving. No way way one. I don't like trying to make sure cops aren't around but like have to go a little bit faster than I should be. Because I'm one of those people that obeys the speed limit-ish. And yeah, anyway, so get all this stuff with me. Just listen like.

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He was at the house one night and he started laughing. What do you think what his narration was about? I said I'm pretty conventional thinking about it at that point. I said I think women have the right to work, getting equal pay with men, just like they want the right to vote. And he started to laugh and said you're an idiot. And I said why am I an idiot? He said you want me to tell you what that was about. We the Rockefeller's funded that. We funded women's lib.

And the way the ones who got all over the newspaper and television, the Rockefeller Foundation. He says and you want to why? So there were two primary reasons. And they were one reason was we couldn't tax half the population before women's lib. And the second reason was now we get the kids at school at an early age. We can adopt them and the kids have to think. It breaks up their family.

The kids start looking at the state as the family, as the school, as the officials, as their family, not as the parents teaching them. And so those were the primary reasons for women's lib. Which I got up to that point was a noble thing. You know, when I saw their intentions behind it, when they were coming from, when they created it, the thought of it, I saw the evil behind. Last year was another adventure. You were my sunshine, my only sunshine. You made me happy, when skies were gray.

You'll never know dear how much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. The other night dear, as I lay sleeping, I dreamt I held you in my arms. When I woke dear, I was mistaken. Hey! And I held my head and cry. I held my head and cry. I held my head and cry. I held my head and cry. I held my head and cry. I held my head and cry. I'll always love you and make you happy. If you only, inside the side, could have given me a meaning to love another. You'll regret it all one day.

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Please don't take my sunshine away. We now return to behind us, the sea.

Sorry. And love it, love it, love it, love it. All sorts of good action going down for tonight's intermission. Welcome back the second half of show for Behind the Scenes episode 156. Yes, we cordially invite you and your daughter to the slaughter. It is June 12, 2023. It is 9.30pm on the dot here in the bereft coast, which means it's 10.30pm at me time, 11.30pm at the Chem Trail time, which means it's midnight 30pm over there on the beast coast. And the rust belt.

Yes, especially in the rust belt. Yes, we give a hearty shout out to the rust belt all the way from here behind the schemes. And it is yes, episode 156. You know how many miles I traveled? I did the calculations, by the way. How many was it? Almost 6,000 miles. Wow. Goodness. There and back. By air in my car. What a time. What a time to be alive. What a time it was. And thanks again, everybody who came out for a semester, semester 33rd.

And this is the time during tonight's production where we like to thank all the people that come out and help produce this show. And there's always people coming out of the woodworks and we're eternally grateful for it. Yes, indeed. And probably first right out the gate, I just want to wish an extra thick, belated birthday to Sir Spencer. And then private browsing actually sent in to you. It was too good to pass up not to have it in the notes.

Private browsing did up some artwork for Spencer's birthday that was just phenomenal stuff. She so it only did. She came up with it right there. She was trying it while listening to the show and submitted it that very night. It was a beautiful piece of art. She's a very talented lady. Yes, she is. I love it. It's Christ blinds. It's got that kind of a sort of watercolor vibe to it ish. Yeah. It's the it's those fancy markers though, right? I think it was. It's fancy markers.

She's got a real fancy marker collection. And you can tell I mean just the shading and the coloring is just so good, so consistent. For anyone who can't see it, you should see it on the show on the zosuscorner.substack.com. You will find a bulbazore that is smiling with bright red eyes and he is like a big old weed leaf on his back. Or no, I'm sorry, weed nug on his back. It's his happy birthday, sir Spencer. I actually Pokemon went to the polls. Good poll, good poll. The acrylic paint pens.

Because their alcoholic ink pens took a shit. She says in the chat, you can get into at any time, a hashtag green room of irisc.0.net. Who else do we have? We had a couple of PayPal donations come through. One of them being Kitty Tarleton, who is my sister. She sends in a monthly donation for $6.66. Nice. Thank you, Kitty Tarleton. Yes, come in. A fellow Moth person. I'm curious what Kitty's cryptid of choice would be. Hmm. Well, that's.

And then today we had another PayPal donation come through for $33.33 from Squallar Bill. Oh, Big Ballon. And he had a note attached with it. And it said Boo and Labs. Another $33.33 USD via PayPal for the continued quality content. Keep it up. Love Squallar Bill. Well, thank you kindly to Squallar Bill. You are our executive freak of hazard tonight. The top dog in charge. That's right. The Big Baller. Thank you, Squallar Bill. Very kind of you.

And then I just want to I didn't get a chance to actually credit everybody that took the pictures. So my apologies for that. But I was getting pictures from you, lavish. I was getting pictures from Mousie Bear, from Lorian, make heroism, and Mary Kate Ultra. Just everybody that's that's in a picture our way. Thank you very much. I'm glad to have a spot that we can feature them all. Yes. And we're sorry for taxing everybody, but y'all look so good. Yeah. Showed off. So handsome.

It's a good looking group. It's a good looking group. I will say that I'm someone on the camera's shy side. I'm not I'm not one usually to jump into a photo, but Mousie took a picture of me and Spencer while we were doing some sound check. And I was like, oh, that's a that's a fun picture. I'm glad to have this one. Yeah. I know it's when you're talking about I'm looking for it so I can drop it in the chat. Sometimes substacky click on the image and it takes you to something else.

Ooh, Serb Emreau says I look great on the video stream. Oh. Yes. Let me let me look a little better. Excuse me for a second. Ooh. Yes. Serb Emreau's of course has access to the 4K satellite video feed. No one else does. Just be more. Just be more. Getting a little warm in here. Oh, you better get down to your denoms then, son. I think my denoms and. Well, I only have a jacket up here. I don't have a vest. Jacken might be a little much. I love these pics of just the space.

Nice space. And then Mr. Ed had actually got in a couple of intermission items that we featured in tonight's intermission. Oh, that's right. The song's for intermission. Once the episode's posted, you'll be able to go into Kirokaster and boost during those songs and the stats will be sent to the artist represented in the value feed. How cool is that? DECK! The first track was by a group called Junk Mail. The song was subscribed now. And then we had Late Night Special with the track.

Don't leave me lonely. And then a fan favorite of the show, Able Kirby wrapped us up with You Were My Sunshine. Ah. Is it being intermission and, oh, that Able Kirby? Such a talented boy. He's one hardcore talented dude. Yes. Really dynamic fella. Yeah. I think he is a great example of somebody having full control of both right and left sides of their brains. Yeah. He does the playing. He does the singing. And he does the engineering and the mixing and the producing. That's good stuff.

That's a quintuple threat. Yes. Yeah. It really, really saucy intermission. You really did yourself. What a... Oh, we do have some content that was submitted from TUNTA and Mr. Ed that we're going to be getting into for next week. So we're definitely excited about that. Oh, you dropped the teaser. Hmm. You like that teaser? Oh, you're teasing him. Oh, my God. You're teasing them. Hmm. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then all that leaves us with is some...

I take that back. There was another person that came through. Haven't had a chance to check this out. But Stephen B. creator of CurioCaster implemented a feature that I was requesting for CurioCaster. And that is the ability to submit custom value feeds to the time split block for podcast in 2.0 apps. So what it will allow us to do is we'll be able to build out the intermission. We'll be able to adjust the timestamps accordingly with the appropriate value feeds.

And then we'll be able to do it live. So I'm hoping next week we can get that introduced. Hmm. We'll see. We'll see. It's in the works people. Always in the works. Always working on something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Um, I think that just brings us to some boost your grams, which were flying hot during intermission. Hot boost. Yes. Boosts are a little pavents of Bitcoin. If you don't know already, you got to get a podcasting 2.0 app.

And you can fill up your light and in the wall with some of that sweet juicy Bitcoin. And then you can boost all your favorite shows. Not only will you be supporting independent media in a very, very cool way. But you'll also be getting things popping up in the chat. Little sounds just like that. Just like that ginger right there. It's right. Slotter guts. You can pull their heads off. You can slice them with katanas or smash them with hammers. Who is this coming through? What is this?

Oh, it's Peter. Yeah, we got you. Slotter. That's begun. Destroy all ghosts. Drop the hammer. How brave it is. Show it. Hey. Show it. Hey. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I dropped my arm. It killed all of the dead stuff. Jeez. This is kissing. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Singing. Oh. Oh. Oh. It's the gig industry of the South Valley. Singing. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I! Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. That's a great blow. That's a good one. Oh. Oh. That's a good one. We'll see you guys tomorrow. You bereits call it. You haven't seen nothing about Halloween. I mean, I was just stuck with a few things. And I think it was just happy that it's here. Also, I'm not going to have to name a car less. My baby is just doing it in the House. Hmm. And we'reなんか plus. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. Whoops. Sorry ahyung. I'm so pretty. Cool. I don'tufficient things in in my house too. It's a good friend.

Next year, I'm back. Okay. Family dead. Their fucking pets are being skinned alive. Your mom's a fucking whore. You suck at life. The whole world hates you. You're going to hell. Live with it. Game over. Good advice. Yeah. What was the count on that 13 from Pete's arm? And then one last one from Fyfer? Slotter Fest. Slotter Fest. That's right. If you send in 6666 Satoshi's, then you yourself can slaughter your own goat. I think that's a rip and steal if you ask me.

We've got a whole ranch full of goats by the way. They're just waiting, waiting to be ripped apart. And in some cases sewn back together again. You know, we had a couple of merciful goat sewings as well. A couple of 999s coming through, for example, cotton ginseng. I forget. Have you seen the Rocky Horror picture show sequel? No, I have not. I was curious if I could, there's a song in there called Little Black Dress. There's a line in it. It's like, well, first you go rip, rip, rip.

Then you go snip, snip, snip. Then you're whipping a stich, stich, stich. It made up to the hip hip hip hip. It does sound like a song that that guy would wrote, the guy who wrote Rocky War. Richard Noir. Richard Noir. Yeah, that's right. A cult king. Good movie. It's very weird. Surprisingly enough. Oh, I'm, that I have no doubt. It's probably weird. Have you seen Flash Gordon? I have. Not a long while, but I have. Yeah, we're all in that too. Richard O'Brien's in that.

Richard O'Brien's also in another one of my all time favorite movies ever after starring Drew Barrymore, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but you weren't expecting that one. No, I came out of left field there ever after a Cinderella story. That's right. It's starring Drew Barrymore and Jill Gihuston and Do Grey Scott. Yeah, I didn't see that one a long time. I should fix that. Richard O'Brien. What a guy. I like his, he's got a great picture for his AMDB page.

Him is riff raff sitting in a silver throne. That's good. What was the other boost that we had come in? There was some from earlier in the week. Let me scroll on back down there. I'm trying to dig through this pile of goats. There we go. 420 from C-Dubs, boosted in the live tag for episode 154. Did I scroll too far? I don't know what's going on here. Test test toke is what he said. He's boosting that yesterday somehow. I don't know what happened. It's very interesting.

And then we had 420 Sats from user six, excuse me. 420 Sats through Fountain from user six, seven, four, one, one, eight, eight, one, nine, two, three, two, four, one, two. Boosted in episode 155. Slapers only saying test test toke. Sounds like a C-Dubs. Okay. I know he's been testing getting those boosted grams posted to what is it? It's a social media post that you can listen to your RSS feed and then they'll display an app.

And then his boost spot, when you do this, if you have boost button in the feed or in the split, I should say, it will relay those boosted grams that come in to the massive on post that's featured in the RSS feed. It's pretty cool stuff. Dang, delicious. Then we had the 111111 Sats from Boulouseeed, the Cloud for Flair error, although I see you're in the chat. So we got something rectified.

We had 20,000 Sats from NetNed, boosted in the live tag through Fountain saying, I enjoyed wandering through Uranus with both of you and everyone else in Uranus this weekend. Much love. Thanks, Dan B. And thanks NetNed. Yes, NetNed, it was a pleasure. Going around Uranus. My almonds were activated. It was a very grand time. I'm glad that it was possible. I am amazed how many people came to Uranus. I mean, there were so many people in Uranus. I'm amazed by how many people came in Uranus. I know.

So many people in the town of Uranus, Missouri. We had 66, 66 from Fyfer, boosted in episode 156 tonight's live episode. I think this one might be through the podcast index. And he said, this one looks defective. I'll just take care of it before Ptar gets here. Yeah. Yes, Pearls before Slyne, etc. You know it. It's the opposite. You only want to present the best. You don't want to. You want your Pearls before kings. That's what we do. You've only the finest goats for Ptar.

Then we had 99, 99 from Bullysdeed through Fountain, saying BTS is a full-serve view. S-E-R-V-U-V-E. Full-serve view. That's how I interpret it. Nice. D&B was also feeling merciful and wanted to glue a goat back together. Goat glue. Yeah, sometimes you get to glue the goat back together. Sometimes. You want to build up a little bit of that morale on the goats and then just... Yeah. You got to give them a little something. You got to give them a little something to hope for. Yeah, yeah.

So that one they get to the front of that line, you know. They're able to mark themselves there. Yes. Ah, see Dubs. Thank you. It's the social interaction cross-app comments. Yes. There's a very technical name for that feature in the RSS feeds. And I blamed Donut like a name, Richard. We had 66, 66 from Fyfer through podcast index. I'm assuming. Saying, ha ha ha. This good thought it was alive again. I'm more. Oops. Did I do that?

Yes. We got 99, 99 from Cotton Gin Boosting Through Podverse and Zip, Zip, Zip. Yeah, Zip, Zip, Zip to go back together. I'm a lot of mercy going on today. Definitely going to have to play that track in the post-shoternate. Yeah. 66, 66, 66 from Fyfer again, saying third time is the charm. I can't sacrifice these zombie goats much past intermission. We got to get them in while you can. Yep, yep, yep. You got to sneak your goat. Yeah. These zombies. The zombie goes around around everywhere.

It still tastes good though. Zombie goat meat is good goat meat. It's preserved. It's like it's almost like it smokes itself. Yeah. It does smoke itself. It's like you're anus. We had 77, 77 from Pyrannessie, Boosting Episode 155. That was the David Lee Roth Boost that we heard there. Pyrannessie Diamond Dave does. Thank you, sir. Then we had 1650 from Pyrannessie through Fountain. And then we had 1111 sets from Pyrannessie all through Fountain. Yeah, thank you.

We got 90. Sales of the seven seas. Thank you. For some reason when I see Pyrannessie, I think of pirates, but there's nothing to do with pirates. It's very close. I'm just hit that, hit the retard club again. I'm a little retarded, that's all. We got 99.99 from Bully Steed through Fountain, saying, able Kirby Boost, you are my sunshine. Yeah. Don't you forget it. Able Kirby, so talented. Oh my goodness. 1636,333 sets through Podverse from WGAF. Wow. I'm getting almost done with my name.

Here comes the money. Here comes the money. Can't believe you like Sat too. We should hire out. WGAF is a definite new name that I've not seen. I've seen a lot of these parts here before. Yes. What a ball of donation. I haven't seen them around either. By for apparently, who gives a fuck? This is what it stands for. Who gives a shit? Who gives a Friday for the kids at home? It's not a kid show. You're right. This is most definitely not a children's production. It's not for kids.

Unless your kids are fucking based. You know what, based kids means based. Well, I should say that. Not always. No, no. Sometimes it's recessive. Sometimes it skips a generation or two. Well, thank you who gives a Friday. We really appreciate that. Yeah. WGAF. Very kind of you. That's what value for values all about. I like Sat, fo. We had a 648 from Pyrrhe Nessie, which is one of the Jim Jones boost through Fountain. And then we got an eight. Oh, eight from Delorean.

Boosting the live tag for episode 155. How is this working? What is going on? She's boosting through Fountain saying, belated in titty boost, entity boost. And I see what's on your mind. I know. Oops. Oops. Thanks again to you and all the great people in this Camino Taaay. Camino Taaay. For helping make third, Sir Spencer's 33rd birthday, sofa, king, magical. Yeah. Love Private Browsing's Budasore. And thank you for sharing in it in the show notes. And then we got a Kawaii Dessu.

Kawaii Dessu. Well, I don't think you would pronounce the U. It's a desu. Desu. Impensu desu. Like if you're going to say this is a pencil of the impensu desu. Well, I'm too quiet to, you know. You'd be pronouncing foreign words properly. Why are you trying to speak that word? Oops. Yeah. Well, thank you, DeLorean. And thanks again for hosting us. Yeah, I'm weird. I don't know where that Pokemon jingle that we made went to. Me and Lorean.

Hmm. I'm going to have to go searching for something later. If you want to get in on that action, all you have to do is just go over to newdpodcastabs.com and find yourself one that you can send some value in app back to this show or many, many other shares. Many, many shows. There's so many out there. So many that are absolutely worth boosting. You should try it out. It's good for the soul. Yeah, you like plants? There's a show for that. You like money? There's a show for that.

You like thinking that the news is a piece of shit? There's definitely a show for that. There's all kinds of shows. You like weed? There's a show for that. You like schemes? Well, here you are. Well, here are the schemes. Um, yeah. I think that's a wrap this on producers ready for a screen meal.

Hit me with a screen meal. Oh, we'll hoot you with a screen meal. Oh, man. I was trying to get ahead of the stuff. And now I've got to call again the behind the scenes with Lavash and BlueberryMothman of the 77 degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah, anyway. I saw it was running in all a tag to picture or I'll reply to the picture with the, or the, I'll reply to the NAS with a picture of the snake. But anyway, I was running and, uh, and I've been going on this little trail.

And then I saw it on and, uh, saw snake like straight out like on the path that I was going on. And then I saw it on the path. I'm like, I just stopped. I'm like, oh, and I did a little, I did a little, why? I did a little different than that. But yeah, did a little screen and then that stopped. And then completely stopped. Which I never do, like, even in a gender section. I just kind of like, find a way around.

But I got completely stopped and then, and then like went around slowly, around the snake. And then I was like, no, I got to take a picture because just, because yeah, you know, and took a picture and then just kept on running. But yeah, so that was, that was a little screen. And then later I was still around paths and stuff like that. This is the area that I was in. And, uh, I was like, okay, I'm going to be paying, paying attention to the trail that I'm on.

And, uh, just because I saw one snake and it could be another one, you know, just in the middle of the path. And, uh, like maybe a quarter or second or something like that and, uh, I screamed again. But it was just, uh, it was just a lizard. The friend of the snake, only with legs. Um, but, quickly I could tell if it was, or there's a move, moving out of the way.

So, and then another time there's something, the rest of them in the bushes, I think I kind of like jump to the side because I'm just like, snake, snake, snake. You know, it's all I'm thinking about, even though it's probably just a squirrel or a bird or something of the, in the grass, whatever. So, anyway, there's the screams. I love you guys. Stayed in the grass. So, you got to witness the serpent swallow the egg. Oh, yeah. Gotta watch out for snakes, people. Big snake is coming for you.

You got to, yeah, the snakes are in the, uh, in the bush, behind the tree, keeping out for them. Private browsing says Timber Rattler. It's gorgeous and chunky. That's a thick snake. Mmm, everybody likes it. That's a thick snake. Yeah, so thank you Christopher Battles for not only sending in that fantastic scream mail, but then providing us some, uh, some visual material with which to go. Yeah, I just dropped the link that he, uh, tagged us on no agenda social with. Mmm, check out that big boy.

That's a big boy. Man, I guys had a couple of masters in this time. It's all water, wait. Uh, oh, we got a surprise email here with an ISO from Weirdo saying I've got all the documents. I'm guessing that's, uh, when I download this and then play it, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna guess that, uh, we do in fact have all the documents. I'm just gonna go all the documents. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, thanks Weirdo. Let me get that one more time. I've just got all the documents.

I'll pump that up a little bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, for anybody who's hearing my voice and saying, well, you know, I think lavish is a little sick. Uh, no, it's just all the blunts that Weirdo, uh, was passing around. I know you like to get wet dog. Surely blunt voice. Uh, yes, thank you, thank you, Weirdo. Uh, ISO for your documents. What else? Oh, we got another screen mail here. Let's do this one. Hey, what's up there, uh, bowlers?

That was a pretty kick ass cammy, or you had there in the, uh, in the sewer. There, boo, boo, wait. Oh, shit. I swear I'm not dead yet. Damn, those pizza rolls were gone! I probably a half of a freezer. DAAG! Anyway, enjoy your show and, uh, keep up the cammy, or that's pretty badass. I want to see Lovey Boy, too, or here. Lovey Boy. Bye. Adios, mofos! Bee. Dr. Sir. Special Agent Dr. Sir, my crotch. Oh, yes. He didn't take seven years of special Agent Medical School to be called Mr. No.

No way, man. He earned the title. No way, man. He earned it. That's right. He fucking bads and everything. He, he studied his fingers down to the bone, working hard. Yeah, he studied those fingers. Right, right down to the bone. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Deadletting point. You can also text this number. 612-263-7999, and an anonymous texture sent in this audio clip. Hey, everybody. This is Ergen Tappetje. You're listening to Behind the Scenes with BooBurly and Lovey.

Congratulations on your three-year anniversary for hosting the show. I love you. Your friends love you. And as always, stay clear to them. Wait. Did you play it? I didn't quite hear who that was. You just play the beginning, Port. Hey, everybody. This is Ergen Tappetje. You're listening to me. Urgent Topia? I'm not sure. Urgent to Lopia? Tester, if you would like to be names with your IRC handle, uh, hit us back up. I'm going to play this one more time. Hey, everybody. This is Ergen Tappetje.

You're listening to Behind the Scenes with BooBurly and Lovey. Congratulations on your three-year anniversary for hosting the show. I love you. Your friends love you. And as always, stay clear to them. Well, you stay creative as well, Collar. We appreciate that. Absolutely. Thanks for calling in. Very appreciative. You know, that's one thing the New World Order hates. It's creative people. Yeah. And people calling each other people and telling them that they're creative.

That's exactly what they don't want. Urgent Chocolate, perhaps? Urgent Chocolate. I heard Urgent to Lopia. Uh, I don't know. We'll have to, uh, we'll have to hope and pray. Thoughts and prayers that somebody will inform us as to who that was. Yes. I'm sure thoughts and prayers in 612-263-799. 999, you still got time. And we got ourselves a little bag of ice, excuse me, uh, screen-mails that we can wrap the show on. So take it away, lavish.

Oh, God. Oh, God, my pants. Oh, thanks, Dick. I have in my hands the documents. Ooh. All sorts of documents floating around tonight. This is fine print. Fine, fine, journalistic print. I'm holding in my hand a copy of the Uranus Examiner. Yes. I'm just going to read a couple of headlines from what goes down in Uranus. Uh, there seems to be a movie that is to be filmed in Uranus. Good. Uh, what exactly is happening?

Well, apparently Uranus is getting attacked by what you may ask a slug named Zameek. Uranus attacks as a sci-fi horror comedy film that's fun for the whole family. Uh, that's going on. They just do a table read. Fun for the whole family in my anus. No, no, in Uranus. No, no, no. Just, we'll fix that in a post. Uh, let's see what else here. Uh, 17 buses rolled through Uranus. Mm-hmm. It seems that the Uranus fudge factory in general store jammed 17 motor coach buses in Uranus in 12 days.

That's what the holiday season will. That's what we call running train. Oh, my. That is indeed what we call running train. Uh, let's see what else is going on. Oh, then as we've said, hot and tasty fried chicken is coming soon in Uranus. Uh, which is of course along the legendary Route 66. It's always, always a fine thing to, to visit these old American spots. I didn't go on along Route 66.

I didn't put a picture of it in the show notes, but the one souvenir that I picked up was a route 66 patch that said Uranus. Excuse me, Uranus. What am I even thinking? Uranus. Uh, it says Uranus at the top of it on the badge, the highway marker. It's good stuff. I'm very excited to put it on a jacket. And that actually gave me some pins and patches. I'll have to remember to get a picture of those for next week. Almost deaf.

Oh, and yeah, I mean, I didn't have any time because I was really out of it today, but we got so many fine gifts and things that will absolutely go on the show notes. I think next week, I mean, make heroes in American ultra finished my collection of man myth and magic. By giving me the coveted copy volume 23. And I was happy to exchange with them a copy of fresh copy of volume 22, which is the first copy they ever gave me. I kept their copy because it just smells so good.

I kept it literally for the smells. Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking on. You know what I'm talking about. So. Yeah. So thanks then they gave me a beautiful pair of dice, which was the one thing that I fucking the second I got in the car and drove away as like I don't have my dice. And then I texted you immediately and I said, please grab the dice and bring them to me. Get them to me. And it was funny because they had given me a pair as well.

And I was sitting there talking to him and I said, did you, did you give lavish a pair of dice to. And they confirmed yes. And then I looked at my phone. I was like, oh, well, son of a bitch. He texted me about him. Synchronicity again. They keep stacking. Why bother texting each other when we can just use telecommunication. Mind waves. Let's see. Oh, here are the Uranus obituaries. This week, this month in Uranus, we lost trash can Sandra Schnapper.

Trash can Sandy is most of the community called her. She was the waste collector of Uranus. Although annoying to most trash can Sandy would bellow in front of every house on trash day. Time to take out the trash. Before dumping trash cans into her truck, she performed his job proudly for many years until one day. She didn't. She trash can Sandy came up missing approximately eight months ago. Nobody was horribly worried as many thought that she just went on one of her many vacations.

However, after the first month of not hearing her bellows, Deputy Duky Duke Jackson took control of the case. Deputy Duky of Uranus. After investigating and searching for several months, the remains of Sandra Schnapper were found at the Uranus city dump. It's not cool. That is not cool at all. It sounds like foul play to me. The concerning part of this was a note that was found in her house reading that trash has been taken out. Shocking.

No further details are available on this case as it is still under investigation. Wow. A lot of mystery going on in Uranus. Yes. Suspicion of foul play in Uranus. It's the last place you want in your foul play. Anyway, I was just checking out a little excerpt from the Uranus examiner. Nice to have a copy of this. A little keepsake thing. Some literature from On the Ground. That's right. That's real documentation people. We don't... We're not just computer people here.

We have physical copies of almost everything. I've just got all the documents. Because, as you know, physical copies of paper can't be destroyed. Correct. It's impossible. That's according to history. What history we have left. What written records we have left. What survived the libraries of Alexandria? Tell us that, yes. It's true.

I brought some clips this evening concerning a character around episode 115. I pulled some material on a fellow that you may have heard of. And I never presented the material. It kind of went on the shelf. But today I think is a fine opportunity to explore. It's sort of interesting figure in music and in popular culture. A Mr. Rick Rubin. Yes. Are you familiar with this Rick Rubin guy? Record producer. He's worked with the likes of Johnny Cash, the Beastie Boys, Jay-Z, Red Hot Chili Peppers.

I mean, you fucking throw a dart. You probably hit an artist that's worked with Rick Rubin at some point. That's right. System of a down. Not only has he worked with these people, but in many instances, he has been there and helped produce their seminal works. Their most well-known work. In the case of the Beastie Boys, he literally was like the fifth beetle, if you will, of the Beastie Boys. And he was a major factor in all of that. He was like the sort of Dr. Dre of the East Coast at the time.

An up-and-coming scrappy producer. And on top of being a music producer, he also is kind of a strangely zen figure. He goes around. He has a long white hair and a big beard. And he never dresses very fancy. He usually is wearing like a dirty white t-shirt and shorts and flip flops. And he'll go on like four week long potato fasts where he'll only eat potatoes for a whole month. Based. You know, things like, yeah, pretty bad, you know. A major proponent of meditation and mindfulness.

He's an interesting guy. Let's listen to these clips in a long time. So I'm interested to see what these clips say. Please play Rick Rubin One. Rick Rubin is perhaps the most important record producer of the past 35 years with a career that is now the stuff of legend. He founded Dev Jam recordings in his dorm room and took hip-hop mainstream in the late 80s with a staple of influential artists like Public Enemy, The Beastie Boys, and Run DMC.

Today, he is a multi-grammy award-winning producer for dozens of artists. As diverse as Johnny Cash, the system of a down, Neil Diamond, Jay-Z, the Dixie Chicks, Slayer, the Red Hat Chili Peppers, Adele Lady Gaga, and Kanye West, just to name a few. Rick's interest and curiosity isn't limited to a specific genre or to what's popular on the charts. And he spent his entire career getting the best out of artists by helping them step outside of their comfort zone.

Rick is most recognizable for his long white, impressive beard. He's often seen walking around shoelace in a white t-shirt and black shorts. He has a mystical quality about him, which goes a small way toward explaining why so many people refer to him as a guru. The beard, man, his power is not beard. You can tell every time he scratches it, magic was flying in the air, seeing it. You're so goddamn free. I think I'm free, but you're on a whole nother level of fucking free.

Rubin is a non-traditional producer. He doesn't play any instruments and he can't operate a mixing board or a pro-tool setup. In 2007, Rick told Esquire Magazine, quote, I don't know anything about music. My job has very little to do with music. It has more to do with taste and culture and balance. Rubin operates as part fan and part philosopher. He's best known for his talents as a listener.

With his ability to offer skilled notes on how artists can improve their songs, along with providing them a safe space to make music without commercial or external pressures. It's a taste thing. It's just a taste thing. It's not technical. No, he's even recalled, he says, I'm not a producer, I'm a reducer. It's coming and it'll be like, get rid of this, get rid of that. Okay, now, bare bones basics again. I'm going to take it down to the essence. Yeah, we're going to get the sweet juice.

Strip out all that fluff. No fluff, anti-fluff son. Rick Rubin doesn't do it. The idea with him is this guy has such good taste and such good sense for music that it really doesn't even matter what genre of music it is, whether it's hip hop or whether it's rock music or fucking Johnny Cash, it doesn't matter. This guy, if you throw him in the mix, good stuff will happen. He produced Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt. That's right. It doesn't matter if he suggested it to him.

It's the story that I heard. He is very much responsible for the last hurrah, the sort of resurgence of Johnny Cash's career during his Twilight years. I think is a huge reason why Johnny Cash is still as famous as he is today. He was there for that. He was there to make some of Jay-Z's best stuff, like 99 problems. He was the producer of 99 problems and then all of the Beastie boys work. He has a big hand in the hip hop and he had a record label, your Dev Jam records.

Before you get into it, I actually have a very short clip of Rick Rubin's advice to Jay-Z. I just seem not too long ago, funny enough. Hey, it's Synchronicity. Pop it up. I think I can. I'm going to try. I want to hear that. Yeah, because I want to feel it. I think maybe we start Accapella with if you're having girlfriends, I feel bad for your son. I got 99 problems, but it would be a bad thing if he started to start to rap for sure. Yeah, that's that's money. He fucking writes the intro.

Yeah, he develops, it's a very famous intro and it sets the tone for the whole song. You can't imagine him with that. Yeah, so he's in there. He's in the mix and Jay-Z at the time was a young dude. And Rick Rubin's been around the block. Rick Rubin at that point had been around for two decades probably. Not two decades, a decade. Still good though. I think that was produced in the late 90s. I'm not sure on dates. I know. I'm a little hazy right now. My dates are mixed up. I'm wrong.

I'm sorry. But Jay-Z respected Rick Rubin because Rick Rubin was there not only with BC boys, but with all of the early New York hip-hop scene. And he would go to all these clubs and he would see all these great artists. Then he knew from, you know, the pioneers of hip-hop, Big Daddy Kane on the way down to the African guy that got in huge, huge trouble. I'm hazy on that. God damn it. But he was hanging around in the New York scene a lot.

And he was just familiar with all those guys and so by the time the BC's made it. You're like, okay, you're allowed. You white guys, you fucking Jewish guys from Manhattan. You guys can go ahead and enter the world because you've been around and we actually know you and we grow up with you. Please play Rick Rubin too. Frederick J. Rubin was born on March 10, 1963 to Michael and Linda Rubin. His father sold shoes and his mother was a housewife.

Rick grew up in Long Island, New York in a household where music was always playing. The Beatles was the first thing, that's probably five years old, four years old, five years old, six years old. The Beatles was, the Beatles and the monkeys were sort of the thing. And then I probably stopped listening to music by the time I was seven or eight. I got into magic and I started learning about magic and being a magician.

Rick would take the train from Lido Beach into Manhattan and hang out in magic shops. He said, quote, when I was 14 I had magician friends who were 60. I learned a lot from them. I still think about magic all the time. I always think about how things work, the mechanics of a situation. That's the nature of being a magician. End quote. When he was 14 he went to see a pediatrician because his neck was hurting him. The doctor told him it was stress and that he needed to learn to meditate.

Thanks to this encounter, Rick has been practicing transcendental meditation since he was very young. Early in high school, Rick got into hard rock groups like ACDC and Aerosmith and then gravitated to the intense and angry sounds coming out of the punk rock genre. Soon he was playing guitar in his own punk band called The Pricks. At school, Rick said he felt like a loner. Like he didn't fit in like he wasn't a part of anything.

That was until he noticed the black students at his school listening to a new and energetic type of music called rap. His high school is about 70% white and 30% black. The white kids were into Led Zeppelin, Yes, and Pink Floyd, which were groups that were all completely over. Whereas the black kids were always waiting for the latest rap or scratch record to come out.

He found it fascinating that people could be so musically progressive that they'd want the newest thing, love it and forget everything that came before it. So he finds and discovers this new genre of music that's being developed. Hip hop, as we know it, is kind of born in 1977 with the great New York blackout of 77, which we've talked about.

The blackout of 77 led to a couple of developments, but one of them being that there were these massive looting going on in the Bronx and in some of the poorer burrows of New York. And a lot of guys that had been working on mixing and spinning records and things like that. They would have these block parties out in the streets and they'd literally just plug into street lamps and shit. They'd hotwire stuff power from the street.

And they would set up their gear and they would have these big dance parties. And they would spin records. And people over time figured out how to, you know, spend multiple records, how to use a delay and tapes and things like that and play over one another. And then they started rapping and speaking over them and rap was born. And during the blackout, the looting went on and these guys knocked off all these high-end music stores and got all this really good gear.

And the first of the rap recording studios was born. You had guys that had access to the good stuff. And so you have guys like Africa Bombata was one of the guys that was mentioning earlier who got in trouble. But all these early pioneers now, they start developing the scene. And so going into the 80s, hip hop is born. It's a pretty magical event and just think the loss of power creates a new genre of music. Yeah, a very astute metaphor, I believe. It was a power shift.

And Rick Reuben was there for it all. He was a guy who was in New York at the time. And he goes to college and he meets these guys who would go on to become the Beastie Boys. And in their college dorm, they create a record label which will go on to be arguably the most powerful record label today on the East Coast.

Please play Reuben 3, Def Jam. Rick was encouraged by his parents to be a lawyer and enrolled at New York University in 1981 as a philosophy major with the intention of going to law school. Choosing NYU proved to be one of the most important decisions of Rick's life because it placed him exactly where hip hop was happening. Every night he'd go to local hip hop clubs where he was the only white person in attendance.

I didn't take any classes before three in the afternoon because I knew I wouldn't wake up. I would go to these clubs like McGrill and the Roxy and see what was going on there. And the records that were coming out didn't reflect hip hop. Hip hop was a whole interactive culture and the DJ, the reason in the Def Jam logo, the DJ is big, is because the DJ was a key piece of the hip hop world. But the records at the time didn't reflect that.

So really the goal of making records was more almost like a documentarian of like I'd go to these clubs. I'd hear this incredible music than I would buy the records and they wouldn't be anything like it. And just from the fan point of view of wanting records that sounded like what I heard at the club, I started making them. One of Rick's first friends in the hip hop scene was DJ Jazee J, who spun at the hottest clubs and would give Ruben advice on which records to buy.

In 1983 the pair decided to make their own record with J's brother T. LaRoc, called It's Yours. This track took off in New York's hip hop clubs and rap radio stations during the spring of 1984 and led to Russell Simmons reaching out to meet Rick. Russell was already notable on the scene for being the manager of popular acts like Run DMC and Curtis Blow. When the two first met they vived right away because they both liked all the same records.

Rick told Russell that he wanted to start an independent record company and wanted him to be his partner. But Simmons was hesitant because he wanted to make a deal with a major label but Rick was insistent. He didn't want to do it first and I said I'll make the records and I'll do all the work and you'll be my partner. And the more I got to know Rick the more I felt that my efforts should go into the partnership and not into a separate company.

Because I already had Run DMC and Houdini and Jimmy Spice and Curtis Blow and it feels full I was managing a lot of acts. I had a lot. I knew that if he was involved it was a real label or if I was doing it myself it was a kid in a college dorm. So while he was still student at NYU, Ruben Bard $5,000 from his parents to start the Deaf Jam label with Russell Simmons. In late 1984 their first release was a 12 inch single of LL Cool J's I Need A Beat and it sold 120,000 copies.

Deaf Jam's next single was a BC Boyce track called Rock Hard which had massive crossover appeal and showed the label was on the right track. But just be worse, we'll be the rock stars! These two records did well enough critically and commercially to have Columbia Records give him and his partner a 7 figure distribution deal for their Deaf Jam label.

Ruben broke the news to his parents that he was going into the music business by sending them a photo of the first track he received under the Columbia agreement. It was his way of telling them they shouldn't think he was throwing his life away just because he was skipping law school. The amount of the track was a cool $600,000 and the rest is history. Pretty crazy to think Deaf Jam started out on the Underground.

A lot of these major labels and all these major figures that we think of as these oppressive major label types that crush artists, that's where they start out. They start out in their garage, metaphorically speaking. Co-unquote, college dorm. In their college dorm out in Mountain View. Their college of course being fucking Stanford or something. Yeah, so they started over in their dorm in NYU and they started getting some distribution deals.

At the time, hip hop was not the commercial vehicle that it is today. I would argue that today, hip hop is the way that a lot of artists break into the mainstream. And then once they've broken into the mainstream, they go back and they go a popular route. One example would be Post Malone. Post Malone is this kind of like Zee-N-E-Bor hip hop guy. But now every record that he drops is, you know, you're my son, Flower. And they're all like weird techno love songs.

And it seems to repeat itself again and again for various artists. I don't know if I can name a Post Malone song off the top of my head. Well, that's totally fair too. He's Post Malone to me is very much a creation. You know, the music industry made him. And he plays a role, I think, in the thing. With all of major music, you have to assume that these people are kind of put there.

There's a very small, very, very small group of people that control what is on the radio stations, the major radio stations, the pop stations that are as homogenous as they are ubiquitous. It's I Heart Radio, the most part. Yeah. Classic, clear communications, clear channel communications, excuse me. FM Radio that you will hear in every town in this country and all over the world. In an every fucking shitty clothing store and blah, blah, blah. It's amazing how few people have control.

We've talked about some of these characters in the past. For example, Jimmy Iveen who runs inner scope records, along with Dr. Dre, who runs Aftermath. When we talked to Charlie of Aftermath, we talked to him about that character. Jimmy Iveen in a lot of ways is the Rick Rubin of the West. Or maybe even Dr. Dre. I would say actually Dr. Dre is a closer comparison.

Dr. Dre is the Rick Rubin of the West, the DJ producer type, who came from nothing and became everything and now controls the industry. A large player. A large player. The player. The guy that you need to get on your side if you want to be somebody in the industry. Somebody who with a snap of his fingers can make you a star overnight. A very, very powerful person, not only in music, but just in culture in general.

So you have Rick Rubin and he's involving himself in hip hop at a time where it's very raw, it's very underground. Everything associated with it is underground. All the labels and all of the recording techniques. The universal and all these guys they haven't gotten hip to it yet. But Rick Rubin is there on the ground floor. If you please play Rick Rubin 4, things heat up over a deaf jam. Staff Jam became a symbol of adventure and independence in the music world.

And Rick established himself as a producer whose name on a record was a virtual guarantee of quality. In the 1986 interview with the village voice, a then 23 year old Rick Rubin said, quote, deaf jam is a unique label in that we're in the music business. Whereas all the other record companies are in the banking business. They loan money, you make a record, you pay it back with your sales and they take a piece from them on. They look at it as selling something. It's really disgusting. End quote.

From the very beginning of his career, Rick never focused on trying to make a hit. Instead, his goal is to make music that excites him and the artist. We didn't make them thinking, oh this is going to change the world or I can't wait for everybody to hear it. It was more like, I know my friends are like this. And if you know, if 500 people hear it, that's amazing. You know, if we can sell enough of these to get to make another one, we've succeeded.

By maintaining a sincere approach to the art, Rick incidentally changed the face of music forever. During his time at deaf jam, he produced some of the hip-hop albums like LL Cool J's radio, Ron DMC's Raisin Hell, and BC Boy's License to Il. With the BC Boy's Rick combined his three favorite styles, punk rap and heavy metal into one. And despite its offensive nature, it became the first rap LP to top the Billboard charts.

Ruben also produced Slayers 1986 album Rain and Blood, which is now considered one of the greatest heavy metal records ever. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. That's right. So at the portrayal, he's doing the whole Slayer thing, which is funny because we bring that up Charlie brought up Slayer. Charlie of Aftermath, and we talked to him and he compared the naming issue to their naming issue,

which was that there were a lot of Slayers in the early days. In the 80s, there was like a Chicago Slayer, and there was a New York Slayer, and there's an LA Slayer, and eventually this Slayer became the Slayer. One Slayer to rule them all. To slay them all. Happy Pride Month, everyone. So he's producing all the HIPAA records, but he's also instrumental in developing Heavy Metal, by being there with his finger on the pulse of a Slayer. But all of this success, who bury, the success.

The guy goes in there and he teams up with this other guy who is managing Run DMC, and there's a little friction there as the company grows, as it happens. Have you please play Rick Rubin 5, unless you have any other thoughts? Well, it sounds like Rick Rubin could really go for a lightning wallet right about now. Just based off, even if it is only 500 people that hear it, it's 500 people that hear some of them that they like, that they're into.

Just as long as one other person is there and is into it, like a mission accomplished. That's, I think, a very important distinction to make between what certain artists do, versus what the corporations are trying to do in the major labels. The major labels want to make something that everybody will like. But people, artists, and people like us, we like making things that we like. And we like making things that we think our friends won't like, and the people that relate to us.

You got them? You got to make the art that you want to see. Yeah, you want to make something that you yourself would enjoy. And sometimes that involves doing things that would be considered offensive or unsavory for other groups of people. And in that case, you have to go, hey, I don't give a shit that you don't like what I'm doing. I like what I'm doing. And I know there's five other people who do too, and that's fine.

In the immortal words of odorous yurungus, I should give a shit, but I don't give a fuck. No. Exactly. Be the shit on the bathroom wall that you want to see. Anyway, let's continue. Rick Rubin five. In a few short years, Daph Jam had become one of the most significant music labels in the world. But Rick and Russell were no longer getting along. They weren't aligned from a music or a business standpoint.

There was no real falling out. It was really, and I can remember going up on to the rustling saying, you know, I feel like we'd be better friends if we weren't partners. We don't want to leave the companies. I don't want to leave. It's like, okay, I'll leave. It was like, it was that a lot of people would have stayed at Daph Jam in Rick's position because it was so profitable.

But he's not to attach the things. He didn't find the partnership fun anymore. So 1988, he left Daph Jam and headed across the country to Los Angeles, where he started his next record label, Death American Recordings. The name sounds a little unfrangy. Well, I guess it was just barely not infringing enough. I like it. He made it change it just so much that he couldn't be sued. It's kind of a trip. So he goes to LA. And this is what all New York guys want.

This is when when people in New York make it in the music business, they retire to LA. LA is filled to the absolute brim with New Yorkers who are just like, oh, yeah, oh, God, this is so much better. We'll take off as my jackets and oh, my God. Go to the beach. If they only knew. If they only knew. And it turns out that that's actually how LA was founded in the first place was just a bunch of businessmen getting out of New York and going, you know what?

I don't want to pay Thomas Edison all my money to make shitty videos of cat stancing. I'm going to go and make my own movie studio. And that's what my ear and goldman and all those businessmen went and did. And Rick Rubin's no different. So he goes to LA and he starts making a hit after hit if you please play Rick Rubin six. Rick didn't plan on moving the California permanently, but once he got to LA, he never left.

With his new record company, he changed gears and signed hard rock bands like Slayer and Danzig and made several comedy records with controversial comic Andrew Dice Clay. Rick said quote, after my initial success in rap, I started making rock records and people said, why would you do this? I made a comedy album and they said, why this? Pretty much every step of the way people try to talk me out of what I was doing next.

The label's first major commercial success came with the Black Cros 1990 debut album, Shake Your Money Maker. And two years later, the group's follow up, the Southern Harmony and Musical Companion, gave Death American its first number one album. In 92, rapper Sir Mixelot earned a number one hit with the song Baby Got Back, as well as a platinum selling album called Mac Daddy. Heavy Metal Act Slayer also enjoyed commercial success with several gold certified albums.

In 1993, Rick changed the label name to American Recordings. He chose to drop the word Death after seeing the word added to the dictionary, where it was defined as a slang word meaning excellent. To him, the word had become mainstream and meaningless, so we held a mock funeral for the word on August 27, 1993. We had a funeral at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery for the word Death.

Al Sharpton was the minister presiding over the ceremony. The purpose of the event was to acknowledge the mainstreaming of the Underground. And it ended up being a mainstream news story, which was funny because we're such a ridiculous idea to begin with.

Around this time, Rick and Moor Noteridey, when he produced the Red Hot Chili Peppers fifth studio album, Blood Sugar Sex Magic, which gave the band their first hit, Give It Away, which won a Grammy award and became the band's first number one single on the Rock Charts. It's pretty funny. Throwing an underground or throwing a funeral for the Underground. Yeah, the death, the death of death, where he became the very thing he wished to destroy.

Yeah, I mean, can you back out of that position? Is it possible? He tried. It seems like again and again. He tried every time he got too big for his riches. He walked away and he did something else and then that became big and then he walked away and did something else and then that became big. Poor bastard was blowing up everything he touched. I feel like the only way you can effectively leave the mainstream is through the door that's labeled Noteridey.

Or maybe just fading into obscurity. Look at John Deacon bass player for Queen. Once Freddie Mercury died, he played, I think, two concerts with Queen and he was done. Which blows me away. Because the idea is that you know, you love what you do. If you're a musician, you love playing music. If you're an athlete, you love playing sport, whatever your sport is.

The idea that you just kind of one day go, well, I'm just done. And then you hang up your bass guitar that you built yourself in the case of Mr. Deacon. And you just never go out again. You go from being one of the world's most famous rock stars to being a farmer or whatever, whatever you do, you retire. And cotton gin to cotton gin and had mentioned getting canceled out of it. I think getting canceled would fit in the Noteridey category. Yeah, yeah, I would agree.

But this guy was never canceled. He's a boring guy. He's married to the same woman for like decades and they both have their little goat farm and they do their potato fasts. There's no controversy there at all. And this guy just keeps finding himself working on these albums. You know, I mean, you could call it luck.

You could say that he was just in the right place at the right time, a number of times. But this guy helped produce the best albums for a system of a down red hot chili peppers, Andrew Dice Clay, Slayer, the Beastie boys, Jay Z. I'm seeing Metallica black Sabbath.

Johnny Cash. His Wikipedia page has a section labeled loudness war since at least 1999 listeners have criticized Rubin for contributing to a phenomenon in music known as the loudness war in which the dynamic range of recorded music is compressed and sometimes clipped in order to increase the general loudness. Albums produced by Rubin that have been criticized have been California Cation by the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 99. Death Magnetic by Metallica in 2008. And 13 by black Sabbath in 2013.

Yeah, he likes to make it crunchy. He likes to have the full spectrum covered, you know. Yeah, give it a little wedge. Give a little something. A little spice, a little crackle. Just gives it that punch that differentiates it from other stuff. I mean, so it's like it's just mixing for the radio as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, exactly. It's well, what used to be the radio? It's okay to go full audio file for all this things.

We have to understand that 99% of the time the music will be heard through a crappy speaker. And it behooves someone sometimes to actually make music designed for that. That's what Dr. Dre did. Dr. Dre made his early records to be played with big subwoofers in the car. And that was the whole point you get that. Yeah, that was a major focus for him, but your typical audio file wouldn't focus on that. They'd focus on dynamics. Yeah, a lot of peaks, a lot of valleys.

Yeah, we do love peaks and valleys. We're going to ask the chat to Zed tie back to the Rockefeller Foundation, changing the tuning standard. And not sure. But that is an interesting question that someone will look into. And it's in Jay's record label, by the way, is called Rockefeller Records. Yeah, always flashing the hands. Flashing the hands. He knows what's up. Oh, yeah, he's definitely he's done everything short of Mary at Kennedy at this point. Give it time. Give it time.

Those are the clips that I have on Rick Rubin for now. We may revisit him in the future as I do have a friend who works with him. And I'm trying to get that friend onto the show. And he has expressed interest in it, but he's a very busy guy. So we'll try to get him on eventually, but love to hear he works with him and Malcolm Gladwell. 10,000 hours. Yeah, behind the scenes guests on that would be cool.

Oh, yeah. Malcolm Gladwell, I've heard described as if he broke into your house, you'd have a very difficult time describing him to the police. Interesting. Have you seen a picture of Malcolm Gladwell? I will look it up. Gladwell. Images. Um. Oh, this guy looks like he gives Ted Talks all the time. Oh, this guy is this guy is Ted. Wow. That's actually his whole career is just going around giving Ted Talks. That's funny. Malcolm Gladwell, Uber spaghetti sauce, Ted Talk. Yep, yep, yep.

On their show, they interview a lot of musicians. Obviously, Ruben pulls them in. Yeah. Also known as the Loudness King. I don't know if that's a good thing. You know, I like a fairly thick way file MP3 file. It's the way. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Another full sticky note. I love it. I like to fill up my sticky notes. So sticky. Thanks, Dick. You're welcome. So sticky again. Oh, let's see. We had quite a few screen meals left to go. Oh, my really? Well, quite a few.

Let's listen to them. Here we go. Didn't have anything to scream about until I came into Calgary and report tonight. Thanks, Canadian government to screw up a great trip and delay us another hour. Oh, damn it. Sir, Scandinavian. Fuck the Canadian government. Fucking Scandinavian government. When would you stop being such a bitch dominion? Yeah. He was over in the land of the tea, checking out the local scenes. He was glad to hear that he made a bet. Indeed.

He was having a pint over in the great city of England. Yes. What a magnificent city. What a beautiful city it is. It's over 3,000 years old. Let's see the next color's gods. 3,000 years old. Next color. I think that she has come to get behind the scenes being a big scene. She's like, you're going at a wonderful time in your head. Is there any of that? Is there? Yeah. I can't stand there. Oh, wow. That happened. Happy birthday, sister. They're both with us.

They'll have a great time breaking out in great session at the scene. I got a quick. As I get off works, he was the second week in a row. Fuck none of the holidays! Why is it making none of the holidays? Is it so much fucking harder than making real beer? Yeah, so the second week in a row, literally standing two shifts all day, perving the scene 100 and 8, 1, 105 barrel bats, or not going to haul it here. Thank God it's not how good it is with the names of the audience.

It's like, come on, it's so hot. Nice. Let it do its thing, less the beer, become real beer. Don't enter it, don't hold it back. Anyway, glad you guys can't wait to listen to the bulls go and understand what the scene is for a team. Anyway, I'm very nice. I'll take care. Later. I wonder if they make in a moonshine. Non-alcoholic moonshine? Yeah. I don't know. Do they make instant dry powder water? Maybe. I mean, if they do, you can send us some. Let's see. Check it out. Dry water. Oh, wow.

Just add water. Dry water or empty water, a form of, quote, powdered liquid, is an air water emulsion which water droplets are surrounded by a silica coating. Hmm, sounds like more than water to me. So close. Non-alcoholic moonshine. And yes, this is what I hear. Non-alcoholic beer is more difficult to make than just beer beer. They get all that alcohol out of it. Yeah, I'd imagine there's a lot of processes.

Yeah, although they call non-alcoholic beer, but technically it has like 0.5% sometimes. Alcoholic content. Which obviously won't get you drunk, no matter how many of those things you drink. Right. And trust me, I've tried. To drink so many non-alcoholic beers. I wonder if next caller is drinking non-alcoholic beers. Scamers. Hello there. Oh, God. What the fuck can possibly put in words? Thanks for hanging this week, Jim. It was a lot of fun.

I've just been kind of like emotionally processing all of that. There's an affection and just a good fortune of knowing so many high caliber people. Just to be able to like, you know, hang out. And spread to go to a fucking grocery store to go, you know, like, just little simple things that were so incredible. I know, I just kind of like, I didn't expect all that outpouring of affection and camaraderie like. It's hard to really feel worthy of that.

It's not like I think I'm some kind of a piece of shit by any means, but it just like I look around it. All of this wonderful shit and it's hard to imagine like that I'm that good. Be worthy of such tremendous people. Anyway, thanks for all you guys do and all the joy you bring to our lives. And I hope to do it again real soon. Love you guys. Collar, I hate to inform you of this, but we're not worthy. We are the ones that are not worthy. We are scum, Collar. Oh, man. We knew that was coming.

We knew that we knew that there was just going to be a huge amount of outpouring of love, man. Oh, yeah. It was downright lovey-devy. Yeah. Motherfucking wolf of Kansas City, Sir Spencer. It's just like old friends. You come together and it's like, hey, I know you. You know me. Let's grill chicken. And there's a song that I never listened to unless it's in the context of doing kind of like a final loadout for something.

And that's the, the roadie by Jackson Brown and throwing that stuff up, throwing that song on to the computer, all packing up with everybody. This is really good shit. Yes. And there was a quick strike as well. Yeah. Quite efficient. It was very professional. He'd done. Yeah. I must say. You got everything restored back all, you know, all the furniture was put back. Yeah. Yeah. I made sure to take pictures before we tore everything apart. How to put it back together again. You know, so we.

We don't get in trouble. Everybody gets their deposit back. God forbid. Yeah. Yeah. The same in our first time ripping a partner being B. It won't be the last time either. It will not. It will not be. It's true. I would just love to fucking have a meetup in. I keep thinking of Chicago and I know it's, it's a little expensive, but man, if we could ever figure it out. It'd be so much fun. Yeah. You universe for a couple days. I saw NAMS suggesting Lewis. That's fairly central as well.

San Lewis is okay. It's hard for me to get to. Hmm. But it's not bad. Not bad. Yeah. Something just so much. I'm selfish. I'm trying to make a place. It's like possible for me to get to easily. For sure. For sure. Yeah. And there's no shortage of flights going into Chicago. I'm going to be able to get to. I'm going to be able to get to. Yeah. And there's no shortage of flights going into Chicago. Yeah. And it honestly brings, when does Chicago and then flew to San Lewis? You know what?

We could go to that Green Door tavern while they're in Chicago. Ah, the Green Door. Oh, man. Definitely. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you have a scheme, are you scheming? We could do a little Chicago Spook tour. Uh, yes. Yes. We don't need no book and agents. We can figure out the whole schedule ahead of time. Oh, Spencer suggests Dublin. Is that Ireland? Well, it's certainly central. There was a Dublin, California. Because then that would be great for me. Dublin, Ohio?

Dublin, Ohio. Dublin, Ohio? Dublin, Ireland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Ireland. We're going to Ireland, Ohio. Servo says, why not just pull an L run Hubbard and get a boat and operate on maritime law for a little bit? Ooh, a little sea-steady action. Yeah, a little yacht-steady. Yeah. Mmm, perfect. Oh, prepare to watch me. Prepare to watch me puke a lot. Yeah, but come on, it's Pirate Radio. It is. It was Pirate Radio. It was Pirate Battle. Can you Airbnb a yacht? Asked you into it.

Probably, but can we or can we? Or will we? Or will we? I mean, I would love to go the whole nine yards and get a bus with bunk beds in it at some point. That would be cool as shit. Tor bus, tour bus. Tor bus, tour bus. Tor bus, tour bus. Tor bus. Tor. Behind the bus. Yeah. It's safer than being in front of the bus. That's true. And a lot of the fun stuff happens at the back of the bus. We got one last caller who's certainly in the front-line chaining out like a good boy. Caller.

It's like a party in Uranus and everybody's coming. I'm sorry. Caller's in the back of the bus. Oh, caller's coming to the back of the bus right now. Quick. I can hear him now. The footsteps approach. Did you fill the tank while you're back there? Twelve buses coming in Uranus. I can't believe it. That sounded like one sir. One sir, Ryan Bemeros, but I don't think he'd ever be caught saying something so filthy and wretched. No, no, no. Sir Bemeros is far too respectable for that.

Never would say that. I've just got all the documents. Downloading documents. That does wrap us up on the screen-mails. That's about all there. Well, thanks everybody for calling. You know, you can give us a call at 612-263-7999 at any time of the day, at any day of the week, toll free at 612-263-6IXXY. And we'll play it on the air for you. We want to hear from you. We're waiting for you. We will play it on the air all the time. Well, no, not all the time, but live every single Monday night.

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Better to ask for forgiveness than for permission. It's very true. I think that's an Alexander the Great quote. I believe so. Alex the Great. Great guy. Yeah. Looking forward to next week. Well, we'll be getting into some, I got a second teaser here for you. We got Weather Warfare, the Antichrist. Dice. Dice. It's coming. All the music is boostable, baby. Yeah, this is a make-your-o-ism track. Oh, hell yeah. It is. It's very true. I met that guy. Yeah, I touched that guy. I touched that guy.

I huged that man. This one was... What can you do when lying in the sand, false finish? Mmm. It's super mellow. I feel like this could be in a movie or something. This is a role credits music. You meant me to be interested in my life, right? Yeah. I feel like we're having the last two raw there in the edge of the cliff. Yes. Diving into the mist. Yeah. Make sure you turn around and...or come around, I should say.

And if you're using karaoke, you should definitely send some value to these musicians. Everyone is definitely...definitely appreciative of it. That's good stuff, man. If you support independent stuff or else fucking Spotify and Apple are gonna fuck you for it and your children and your grandchildren forever, okay. It's kind of like saving the future. Yeah. Be the future. We're living in the future. The future is now. Be the future that you wanna see. On the bathroom wall. On the bathroom wall.

Yes. Along with all the shit stains and scumbags. And the grout puns. Yes. And I've definitely known where my place has been this entire time. I've been Booberry, Mothman and the Minneapolis. And peeking at you from between the grout. I have been lavish. Buenos notches. All roads leads to Uranus. Have you got a scheme? Are you scheming? It's the foot day, jingle. Shocking. A gracious. Shocking. Can't believe you like Sats too. We should hire you. I like Sats, bro. Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah, let's pull. Oh, it moves. Cheers to Booberry and lavish too. Thank you for letting me pee on your show. My stick. Are you familiar with my stick? I wanna snuggle. I'm a little tired and that's all. It's coming. Give my tits a break. I've just got all the documents. I don't let the ghosts and the ghouls disturb you, darling. Darling, the only ghoul in the house is you. I don't sit up all night thinking of ways to get rid of me. It makes wrinkles.