Part Two: The Throat-Slitting Evangelical Minister of Jamaica

permanent base of operations in downtown Montego Bay. He reconnected with a childhood friend there from Jamaica College named Charlton, who had remained in the country when Smith went off to Canada and had become a pastor himself in the area. Charlton served as a useful early source of connections while Kevin built up his flock, but he also had a sizeable head start by the time he moved there full

time time, thanks to his years of international work. Charlton later claimed that Smith told him early on he'd started ministering to Porchase Simpson Miller, the Prime Minister, and he would also sometimes add vaguely that he talked to with other government officials. So he's from a very early state claiming to be ministering personally to like high level politicians in Jamaica and have a lot of connections in the

local government. And there's some evidence this is true, including the fact that he really does not get investigated for any of his criminal history to the degree that you might expect of somebody who starts who kind of comes into Jamaica out of Canada and immediately starts up a large and influential church. His flock grew rapidly, and in twenty twelve he began affiliating his church with a larger Pentecostal organization in Jamaica called Pathways International Kingdom Restoration Ministries

or I think PICKRIM would be the acronym there. I like that, Yeah, there you go. It sounds like a pokem on. It was not like a Pokemon unless I've really lost the plot on that game. Over the last few years. One regular talking point in Kevin sermons while he's in Jamaica is that he hadn't left Canada because he had committed sex crimes and had to flee because

he didn't want to do probation. He had rejected Canada and his comfortable first world life there to return home to Jamaica because he was so loyal to the Jamaican people, Right.

Both so you can again get an idea of like the personal charisma like here the reaction of the crowd when he talks about this stuff because they're buying it, and also so you can hear like how he is framing why he wound up in Jamaica. Now, in this specific part of the sermon, he's discussing a conversation he had during a brief trip back to Canada with one of his pentecostal mentors in Canada. So this is like a Canadian guy asking like, why are you going why'd

you leave? Why'd you go to Jamaica? Right, that's the context of this part of the speech.

it's interesting how universal that is. At least among like English speaking parts of the world, right, Like, even when it's kind of a different dialect of English, the same basic cadence a voice works really well.

preaching within it. So it's it's just a fascinating picture of the start of the movement that has really taken over American politics right at its kind of like gestation period.

when they accepted him into the Broader Umbrella organization. He was eventually disowned by the group after all the killings, but initially the sheer amount of money he brought in seems to have kept everybody quiet. The Reverend Adenair Jones of the Church of God in Jamaica would later accuse Pathways of exactly this, of basically ignoring the obvious evidence that this guy was dangerous because there was money in him.

bad for Kevin at this point. I feel like his life sucks and he's trapped in it.

and went increasingly insane. It's not a it's not detached completely from this like we're talking about this kind of psychological like this like wheel in the case of like evangelical Christianity. But it also it's not detached from like celebrity culture, right, Like it's it's it's not really great for people, especially when they're really young. I think if this, if this starts to happen to you when you're older, you have you can have more of like a defense

against it. If you've got a family, if you've got friends, if you've got a good number of people who know you and have known you, I.

rest of the Pentecostal churches in the country. Its website claimed our divine mandate is to transform the people by the power of Jesus Christ, and stated that the mission of his church was to win souls to the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ and deliver the lives of people from the snares of darkness. Pretty standard stuff, However, while most pastors within Pathways affiliated churches went by the title pastor, which is normal, Smith showed an early flare

for the extreme. His website listed him as the president and founder of Chos Deliverance International, as well as Chief Special Advisor of the King's Oracles, and he ordered his followers to refer to him in person as excellency, his excellency, or your grace. And I think we can see where problems are starting here.

Is this something that he's really talking about? Before he lands in Jamaica, but during his first five or so years on the island he becomes increasingly enmeshed in prosperity Gospel preaching, which is a major part of kind of the charismatic Christian evangelical movement. The prosperity gospel started out

in the United States. And the way this works it basically you're preaching that God works like a high yield savings account or a really good four oh one K, right, if you put money into God, and by God I mean the church that you go to and it's pastor by tithing regularly giving up the church a percentage of your income and then handing out additional seed offerings on a weekly basis, and seed offerings kind of the key

is that it hurts. Right, every week, you're supposed to give more money than you can afford to the church, right, and the promise is that if you do this, if you give all you can to the point where it like damages your financial stability, God will reward you with miraculous financial gifts. So again, it really is like a four oh one K that works on a much faster time period. If you give God more money than you

can afford. Now, God will give you back many times that amount of money, you know, at some point in the near future. That's like the literal premise upon which prosperity Gospel is predicated. Now, it's probably worth taking another asiet here to discuss prosperity Gospel and more detail, since it is one of the root problems with American evangelical

Christianity as a whole. The gist of it is that in the late eighteen hundreds in the US, there are two different strands of revivalist christian thought that come together and they cross pollinate. On one hand, you've got the Holiness movement, who believes prayer works the same way the force does in Star Wars. Right, it allows people with sufficient faith to heal the sick and do magic because

all illness and discomfort come from sin. Right, So if the Holy Spirit is in you, you can wipe sin away from people and it makes them able to either heal or even perform super human acts. Now, the Holiness movement kind of opens the door to a really theatric church going experience, which is a key aspect of revival culture. You're not just telling people they're healed. You have people play acting as healers and the sick, right, and this

provides kind of an emotional and social outlet. People can come in barely able to move and then start jumping around and dancing and they'll get this like huge surge of applause and this kind of like it's a performance, right, So there's this two way relationship between the performers and the people reacting to it that has this kind of catharsis in it, and there's a degree of forced cognitive

dissonance here. As Associate professor of religion Donathan Bahar writes for nine marks dot org, the key was to believe, pray and hold on to it, believe that it is yours, and act out the healing even if lying symptoms persist. Right, So, even if you know you're not cured, those symptoms because you've been cured are a lie. Right, If you feel like you still have cancer, you have to just ignore that because that's the devil trying to trick you into

believing that you're still sick. So there's a lot of like you know, there's a lot of victim blamey stuff around illness in American culture period, but this is one of the places in which it manifests. Right is in this kind of movement. Now, there's still an This is still the Holiness movement kind of an underlying pillar of charismatic evangelism today, and it's why all of these churches are such fertile hunting grounds for guys like the other

Kevin Smith. Now, the other movement that collides with the Holiness movement in the late eighteen hundreds to create prosperity gospel is the New Thought movement. And the New Thought movement isn't an explicitly Christian movement. It's kind of a precursor to the self help movement. It's related to scientology, Dianetics is involved in this, and it's also the root

of stuff like the Secret Right. And the basis of the New Thought movement is that you can radically alter your mind, body, and situation through purging negative thoughts and reinforcing positive ones. Right, And kind of the main semi secular figure we get out of the New Thought move is Norman Vincent Peel, who's booked The Power of Positive Thinking in the fifties and sixties, is a big influence

on young Donald Trump. And all this stuff kind of collides together and gives us the Prosperity Gospel, which is based on a merger of the two and starts to spread overseas in like the eighties and nineties right to a lot of countries that have exploding evangelical movements in

the post colonial era. And Jamaica, which has a lot of impoverished people who are desperate for hope that feels actionable, is a particularly fertile breeding ground for Prosperity Gospel to start taking over, right, And so it really does, and that's kind of what provides what tills the soil for the church that Kevin is going to start here in the early two thousands, he begins hosting almost daily prayer sessions. I think they're three or four times a week, and

those come with expected daily donations. So you're supposed to give a tithe of your income and then you're supposed to pay every day give a seed donation. And then he has one on one courses. Right, he's still operating as a psychotherapist, like you can pay him for therapy too. Basically, the idea is all of your money goes to Kevin and the church, right, like every dime that you get goes here, and if you're spending money on anything else, even spending money on like food or rent, you're kind

of not putting your faith in God. And that's a sin, isn't it.

his assistant, to have him work for the church. And there are some allegations that he basically starts operating a male harem through these kind of tactics, right, pulling in young men this way. This is not something we have a lot of detail about, in part because in Jamaica, admitting that you were abused in this way, like there's a lot of consequences to it, not that there's not in the United States, but it's hard to get people

talking directly about this kind of relationship. Right It's not clear how much of this is like just psychological and how much of this is actual physical sexual violence, but there are direct allegations that he used these kind of relationships to engage in what was at least adjacent to human trafficking. The Gleaner a Jamaican investigative news site with very good reporting on Smith and maybe the worst coded

website I've ever used, which is not their fault. I know what budgets are like right now, it's just rough. They interviewed a former member of the church named Jivon. At age seventeen, Jivon was taken that's his word, from his parents by Smith and used as an errand boy for the church. Now it's unclear to me. Does Kevin force this guy's parents to give their kid up, or does he bribe them in some way, or is it a situation where they just feel like, well, this guy's

the prophet and we can't say no to him. Jievon claims that at the start he sees Kevin as like a foster father, and he feels chosen like he's maybe the Prophet's adopted son. Right, But this quickly gets disabused because Kevin takes advantage of this position of trust to have Jivon handle intensive, time consuming tasks like counting the money given it offerings every week and do them for free. And this is not an easy or a small task because a lot of money is coming in. Per Jivon.

There were four different types of offerings. You have the one hundred dollars offering that starts the service, the thousand dollars seed offering, and then the regular offering, and then another offering where you make covenant with the word. So by the mid aught some people are donating four times a day with services three times a week Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday.

There's also, you know again, these kind of one on one sessions where he's making money sometimes up to like three hundred and fifty dollars for what's called a deliverance session where he has like a one on one spiritual

encounter with the person. And since Jievon's doing a lot of the counting of money here, he's able to give the gleaner an educated estimate for how much the church is pulling in, and he claims that a single night could bring in a quarter of a million US dollars or more, which means Kevin's Church is pulling down three quarters of a million a week just from services. But he also offers up a bunch of side sessions as noted earlier, which brings their estimated weekly income up to

around a million. And just what we know objectively about the assets, the number of properties the church held, this is a pretty credible estimate for what they're kind of making bringing in at their.

while widows were charged two hundred dollars. The more one gives, the more God gets happy, one church member told the Sunday Gleaner in defense of the numerous payments they would the leader would help a lot of people in need, But nobody's talking about that. And that is an aspect of this too, is like people are seeing there are actual community services that are being operated now, not to the extent of costing a million dollars a week, but there's also enough that people can be like, well, the

money's clearly going to a good cause, right. Members were expected to volunteer time to help, you know, staff these different sort of community organizations, and also to show up at regular festivals, for which they'd be expected to pay like two hundred dollars or five hundred dollars for a ticket. And while there is aid for parishioners, this is also

often a grift. For example, Smith offered loans to members of the church at a fifteen percent interest rate, which is not exactly charity, right, we can say that about that.

children and elderly parishioners. And this is done in part because it's like a really good recruitment tool, right, Like this helps bring more people in, and he's also able to He's able to take in donations for himself and also take in donations to fund these different organizations, so it's not cutting as much into his bottom line. The primary appeal of the church is always Kevin's personal charisma.

Per reporting in The Walrus, one former attendee Charise happened to pass by the church one day and heard Smith's voice. That voice sounds powerful, she remembers, thinking she went inside. Charis immediately felt that Smith wasn't a typical pastor. He insisted on being referred to as his excellency. He spoke eagerly about the gospel of prosperity. Charis and former members say Smith regularly brought up the fact that he was

a Canadian citizen, a point of privilege. He leveraged to suggest that he could help get others visas to work or study in Canada for a fee. Smith charged for consultations or prayers, attendance at workshops, and other events. One event in twenty thirteen, a wealth Transfervation summit entitled money Come to Me Now, promised explosive prophecies to help participants break the cycle of poverty forever.

their impact on her real life. So she's to see, I've been given money to this guy, and I am not getting it back in any way, right, And you're not supposed to think this way. Remember, at the root of all this is that you have to ignore your lying symptoms if they tell you that handing over money to the church hasn't made anything better, right, You're not supposed to feel like that. You're supposed to think that way.

And Jeevon eventually comes to the same conclusion as Cherise, But because he's not a normal congregant, but someone raised in the church whose whole family buys into Kevin's bs, the task of leaving is a lot harder for him. He attempts to flee for the first time in November of twenty fifteen, and this would prove to be the first of ultimately six attempts to flee Kevin Smith's church

over the years. For The Gleaner, each time I ran away, the church members blamed me for being disobedient, he stated, adding that the last time he ran off, Smith placed a death prophecy on his head, saying that his head would return on a platter. Once you try to leave,

they instill fear within you. Jievon said. Many people refuse to leave pathways in international out of fear for their lives, and in fact, they believed he was a prophet, and Kevin kind of cultivates this reputation for prophecy in the same way any other grifter of this kind does. He makes these constant, big predictions about like they're going to war, a natural disaster are coming, right, but he doesn't say where.

And like if you say there's going to be a war that breaks out soon or a natural disaster, you'll always be right, you know, Like, yeah, I predict that in the next six months a major natural disaster will strike the United States. I'll guarantee you that prophecy is correct, because you can say that at any point in time and it will be true in the United States or most other countries, right, Like that's just the way the

world is, you know. The most compelling prophecies that he would lay out, though related to individual members of the church. Jivon recalled one that stuck in his mind. When Kevin told a female congregant about a vision he'd had for future. He prophesied saying that he saw her son in a pool of blood with the name baby Killer. And about a week later, the same incident happened and was on

the pages of the Western Mirror. And I don't know this specific case, but it's one of those things, especially if you get to know you know your flock, if you have members of your church who have like family members in gangs, it's not such a big prediction to be like, what if you is going to lose a loved one soon, right, because, like you know, that's just how it happens when people are involved in gangs. So

it may just have been a situation like that. But this causes the fact that he seems to have this ability and that people believe it. It makes people afraid of Smith, right, you don't want him to prophesy negatively about you. And your family because you believe that this

can have an impact on you. And it's also hard to leave if you're someone like Jeevon who started to question you know the actual power of this guy, because everyone you know in love is still in the church, right, and so you can be cut off from your whole support network by leaving fairly normal cult thing. And this is why Jevon keeps coming back time and time again.

He's going to leave like five times before it finally sticks, and things only change when he falls in love with a member of the congregation and tries to start a relationship with them. This enrages Smith because again Jievon hadn't asked for permission, and Smith, along with a number of other very young men, kind of wants to keep this

kid chased and close to him. Jievon claims the prophet told him, if you think I'm going to marry you and her, you make a big mistake, right as in perform the marriage right, Like I have the ability to determine who in this church can get married, and I'm not going to prove that. And you get the feeling it's kind of out of like a sense of jealousy on his part. That he really doesn't want this kid escaping his orbit in any way. But that is what gets Jievon.

forn ocasion. They don't speak to me. I have two uncles and aunt in law and three cousins still there.

Toronto Police. Why It's unclear, but reading between the lines, I think he works out an arrangement with Canadian authorities using his Jamaican government contacts as an intermediary right because he doesn't go to prison, and he basically gets set up in a situation where he pleads guilty on probation violations, but he's allowed to return to Jamaica and then travel

internationally more easily. He's not like dealing with the fact that he's wanted in Canada anymore over the next eighteen months, as long as he finishes his probation Canada.

a little bit easier. I don't know exactly what's happening, but clearly something sketchy happens here, right this kind of sweetheart deal, It just seems unlikely that it would be handed out otherwise. And yeah, but we don't exactactly know why Canada agrees to let this guy off with just the slappiest on the wrist of slaps on the wrist for a multi year long probation violation after a sex crime.

stretch limousine. He goes on a spending spree, buying a large rural compound with stables in livestock, several luxury homes on the coast, sports cars, and several businesses on the land. He begins constructing a new church called the Arc, which is meant to be self sufficient and able to survive in the event of an apocalypse. Right, so he's built, he's bought his compound, he's building a church called the Ark, and they're like growing food to try to get ready

for the end of days. And so, you know, things seem to be going well for the other Kevin Smith until twenty twenty. Now, if anyone listening is old enough to remember back then, a virus called COVID nineteen started spreading through the global population. Governments around the world entered panic lockdowns with very little understanding of what might actually happened or how long any of this was going to last.

It is a you know, we all remember right now, Given the severity of the disease, it made total sense that you would lock down. But as you might recall, about a third of the population lost their minds over this, right like, people do not react well to this and the other. Kevin Smith is one of them. He seems to have fallen down a conspiracy rabbit hole himself first by listening to and watching American COVID denialists online. So again, we really we've got our part to play in this.

He starts spending way too much time on YouTube while things are closed up, and that's not good for anybody. And based on the reading I've done, he really starts to go over the a once the vaccine becomes a reality and governments around the world start talking about a

mass rollout. Since he's got this big platform, he starts using both his church's social media and his actual pulpit to howl to the masses that the COVID vaccines have microchips in them, and per the Walrus, ingredients linked to the Devil, which I love is a description of like.

on the mark of the beast. I remember back in the nineties when there were certain conspiratorial Christian pastors warning people that like bar codes on products, which were new at the time, were the mark of the beast. Like bar codes are going to allow the government to track everything that you do. You know, this is the devil coming to like take this country down.

that doesn't actually happen, But that's immaterial to guys like Smith. Right, the fact that, well, but this doesn't like fuck man and anti vax people are running the United States now, Like maybe this is not the mark of the beast

in any way. That doesn't really like factor into these people's thinking, as it is the fact that the beast I like all of this, Like apocalypse narrative is very funny to me, just given the actual text of the Book of Revelation, right, because the beast is not at all described as you know, anything like what you hear in the kind of popular fiction that's often inspired by

the Book of Revelations. The beast in the actual Book of Revelations has ten horns and six heads, with ten crowns on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. It has it's like a leopard, but its feet are like a bear's and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. I don't know what that has to do with the COVID nineteen vac scene. You can twist that, I'm sure into making it, but it just sounds like it sounds cool.

Some guy was tripping and described a rad monster. You know, I've seen something like that on enough acid, and I'm sure it was someone on ergot poisoning who wrote the Book of Revelations. You know, many such cases. Smith also described the vaccine as a plan for population control, which also doesn't really make sense with the mark of the Beast thing, because the marked are followers of the beast,

and if the Mark kills them off. It's kind of the Antichrist shooting himself in the foot, right, Like the Antichrist, like, why would you want to kill these people?

of penetration that he has. One of the stories that Smith shared that seems to have really radicalized him was the arrest of Canadian pastor Arthur Pawlowski, who was fined in December of twenty twenty for failing to wear a

mask while having an unpermitted anti mask protest. Now, I wouldn't even call this a slap on the wrist, Right, he gets fined for breaking COVID lockdowns and having a protest at the early stages of the pandemic, barely a slap on the wrist, and in fact, just getting charged with this is a huge boon to this guy's career

because suddenly he's a victim of religious suppression. Right, this guy goes from a nobody to one of the most famous pastors in the world, and other religious leaders like Kevin Smith start screaming that he's a victim of state repression.

Pawlowski kind of decides to let this shit ride, and so he holds another rally in February of twenty twenty one, during which he carries a tiki tourt despite it being daylight, for reasons that have absolutely nothing with signaling his support to the fascists who you said torches to beat people in Charlottesville back in twenty seventeen. Right, it's clearly nothing suspicious about the fact that this guy does a tiki torch rally during daylight in February of twenty twenty one, nothing.

And in fact, thanks in large part to Kevin Smith and Anti the Other Kevin Smith and other anti VAX's religious leaders, less than half of Jamaican's have been vaccinated against COVID nineteen at any point, a significantly lower rate than most of their neighbors by summer of twenty twenty one. Though Smith is totally pilled and COVID nineteen became the sole focus of most of his sermons. From an article

in the Jamaica Gleaner. In one of the entries declaring his mission, Smith, who appeared to be obsessed with titles, declared himself his Excellency Doctor Kevin Osmith, Crown Bishop, an end time nobby of him, conqueror, Lion of the Tribe of Judah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Yesos Christos, the One and True Living God. Yahweh ninety ninety nine, which is the opposite of sixty sixty six.

of the different things that are wrong about that. That's the kind of rhetoric that he's he's putting out of this period of time.

Anyone who yielded to the state and took the vaccine would be killed by God, not necessarily literally, but a kind of spiritual death. Meanwhile, Smith promised, if you give up your life for Christ Jesus, you will save it. So he starts to insist that by October twenty second of twenty twenty one, the Jamaican government will use fictitious legislation to make the COVID vaccine mandatory. The end game will be to try and deceive us or force us

into quarantine concentration camps. Prepare to stand your ground.

vaxed now would be exit communicated from the church. He posted a video to Facebook two days later, insisting my job is the apocalypse and that an unveiling is coming soon. His followers were shortly thereafter ordered to prepare their photo IDs and church membership cards and gather at the ARC on October sixteenth. Never a good idea, Never a good idea.

so they're doing like a marathon session. Smith's lieutenants manage the festivities up to this point, and he seems to have spent these hours like where people are gathering and like this is going on in a frenzy of social media, posting, mostly to Facebook, where he ordered everyone to show up at the ARC without their cell phones, wearing white saying the arc is loading now, the flood is coming. Go

now run. He tells everybody that the ARC is going to leave on the eighteenth, and in case there's any doubt about what that means, he posts that in order to be saved, everyone at the ARC has to participate in what he called a quote Roman Catholic sacrifice that will have no survivors. The cops don't get called as a result of this. Nobody's like, well, this guy's telling everyone to come and there's going to be a sacrifice

at this arc that no one lives through. Probably not worth Karen about right, must just be some like religious bluss. Dozens and dozens of his congregants take this seriously enough that they spend more than a day in prayer. Smith doesn't show up until the seventeenth, and his first command is for everyone to throw out the canned goods that they'd brought, expecting to need food. To survive the apocalypse. Then, confusingly, he ordered them to empty soda bottles and fill the soda bottles.

more important. Outside the church, Smith made congregants bowed down on their knees before entering, giving them judgment and writing their names in the Lamb's Book of Life, a biblical register of those chosen for salvation. The Walrus reports as congregants entered the church, Smith wrote name of each person in a book. When Tanica Gardner walked through the doors, Smith turned to her. Is your blood clean? He asked? Do you believe that I am the resurrection in the life.

Gardner replied yes. Smith then said that her blood had to be cleansed in order for her to be resurrected. I will have to cut your throat, he told her. She allegedly again replied yes.

seated near where the bottle had landed. He told another male follower that in order to be worthy of heaven, he would have to let one of Smith's lieutenants cut his throat with a knife. This guy got so far as to lay down in front of a dude who had like a knife when he realized like, oh my god, this guy's gonna actually cut my throat, and he fucking runs, He like bounces. He's like, oh shit, you meant this. This isn't just some sort of a fucking thing we're doing.

both in the back, wounding both of these men. Meanwhile, back inside the arc, Smith finds Michael Brown, the man with kidney failure who had left the hospital on his orders and the pastor told him, you have to die, but you will write because I am the resurrection and the Light. Now, this guy is still wheelchair bound and is still taking IVY medications, and Smith pulls the tubes out of this man, causing him to bleed to death.

While this is happening, he turns his attention next to Taneka Gardner, who had already agreed to have her throat cut earlier for the Walrus. Smith then handed a knife to a seventeen year old follower named Billy, who instructed to cut Gardner's throat, but Billy hesitated, later saying that he remembered that one of the ten commitment states thou shalt not kill. Smith's right hand man, Andre Ruddick, stepped forward and, at Smith's urging, allegedly cut Gardner's throat. She died shortly.

show up, members of Smith's church open fire. Some of them have guns, and the police start shooting back, and we get a little bit of a Waco situation on our hands here. Yeah, Plumber charges the cops with his still bloody knife and is shot and killed by the police, who themselves have to call for backup from the military because they're just not prepared to deal with this whole situation. The church crowd is fully split at this point. A lot of people have fled in sheer terror, but a

number of them charge the police. Billy who'd cut Tanaka's throat also gets shot in the chest trying to rush the cops, but he ultimately survives. Smith is eventually arrested along with one of his higher ranking lieutenants, and the police begins searching his properties to try and figure out, like, what the fuck happened to you? Right from the perspective of cops, think of how wild this is. You know

about this church. It's a normal like evangelical church, and then one day you show up and there's people with their throat slit and like stabbed out in front. And you show up and people start shooting at you and charging you with machetes, and you're like, oh my god, what the fuck is happening here? It's just like completely disorienting to everybody, so less than two weeks after this

goes down. You know, Smith is in custody and incarcerated, and while he's being driven to Kingston with police escorts, the officers driving him take a detour that lengthens the drive, and then his vehicle crashes into two oncoming vehicles. Smith dies at the scene, along with a twenty six year old officer in the car with him, and two other officers are badly injured.

I don't know. I don't know what happened. I don't necessarily need to believe that anything sketchy happened. But this guy, like probably a lot of people who don't want him testifying. Also because of some of the shit that he's done. So it's not like inherently weird to be like, well maybe something went on here. I don't know, but yeah that's the story if the other Kevin Smith fuck me, oh wow, yeah that is related quickly huh.

But it looks like, based on the cost of maintaining everything, was not all that far from what was coming in, So there may be a degree that like maybe as he had gotten crazier and more focused on anti COVID shit, right, It's possible that, like maybe there was a decline in the number of members in the amount of money that they had, and he was losing the ability to like fund what he was doing, right, and so maybe after.