Part Two: John McAfee Is Not Funny Anymore

on drugging and raping a woman. Uh so week, not a lot else for it to go but down, And it was a laugh of awkwardness. Yeah, what a bad dude. It's it's gonna keep going down. So I forget when I first became aware of John McAfee. It might have been two thousand eleven, when I first read the Wired

article that I quoted from, you know earlier. I remember being endlessly amused that the guy behind the world's most irritating antivirus program was ridiculous madman off inventing drugs in the jungle or something that was that was neat, like we all use McAfee any virus and knowing that like this shitty program that we all hate, Like the guy who made is just a maniac out in the jungle. I hadn't heard about the rape or anything yet. That wasn't out until two sixteen, So I was a fan

of John McAfee for a while. Right when we started the story, I was like, oh, yeah, what a great scammers stand it up, you know, just like all most scammeras do. And then yeah, it took a real turn. Yeah, yeah yeah. McAfee abandoned his jungle compound shortly after the Belizian government raided him, and of course he assaulted u dor ad Anisia at least allegedly assaulted, and he moved back to his beach house on ambergris K full time

with an ever expanding cast of young women. He gave each of them their own bungalow, called them his girlfriends, and according to the girls, he paid them to poop in his mouth through hammocks. Oh, I just dropped that one out there. Now, that's gross. But they're adults, he's paying them. It's whatever. Compared to the rapes, it's whatever. I'm not gonna judge. That's a specific that's your thing. If they're consenting adults and getting paid whatever. I'm not

gonna labor on it too long. It's it's cookie, but whatever. But he was the poopy he was he was, he was the guy pooping. He was who's the guy being pooped into? Yeah? Exactly? Okay, Okay, well, I mean Lazio. At least he wasn't pooping on babile whatever. It's this thing. Okay, that part's fine. Um, Now that fact didn't come out into two sixteen and the release of Gringo, a documentary about John McAfee. Accurate title, Yeah, accurate title. And we will be talking about that more in a little bit.

For now, I want to try to stay as chronological as it is possible to be with a tale of John McAfee, because, of course, he lies about himself constantly, So there was a lot of work on the back end here being like, how did what's the timeline? What actually happened here? I may have gotten some stuff mixed up timeline wise. It's probably not perfect, but I think

this is as close as you can do. After his jungle misadventures, John McAfee grew more and more paranoid since he couldn't fully trust his guards, He bought a shipload of dogs, only he didn't do a great job of policing his dogs, and they had a tendency to run around the beach pissing off his ex patent neighbors. The angriest of these guys was a dude named Greg fall Now. Greg owned a sports bar in Orlando and he lived in Belize for like half the year. It was his

chill out spotty at a nice beach house. He did some construction in the country itself, and you know he it was where he went to relax, and he kind of it's whatever. Belize is like Ohio, like Ohio of the Caribbean. Let's not be that mean to Belieze. I like it. You are really hard on belie for no reason. It's a very ugly, awful play. I do not agree and people to Belieze. I'm defending you, and I think that your ginger wine is delightful. Look, people love Ohio too,

I don't love what. Do you want to build a compound? Belize is pretty I'd build a compound in Belize. Yeah, yeah, I'd prefer to build a compound in Guatemala because they got bag of mountains. But like he has some cool stuff. It's a nice place and books. You were just I really hate that there's bugs everywhere. We come from Texas. You're talking about bugs. There's mountains of crickets out there. Yeah,

criicks ain't doing nothing. Cricks give you a nice soundtrack to your life, you know what I mean, some a smmr for your sleep, Like they ain't biting the ship

out of you. Guys, don't go. I was eating pizza and Guatemala with a friend once and he like grabs the back of his neck and like pulls his hand away and there's like a big, weird looking caterpillar in it, and he like throws it down and then suddenly his whole back bursts out and boils like it's just like fucking wounds all over his back because it would crawl it up him. And like the lady who are in the pizza joint was like, oh, yeah, those those will do that. You don't want to get those on you.

It's so nonchalant. Yeah, you called them about thirty minutes, so you might want to it's fine. But he said that in belief that was in Guatemala, but it was in Guatemala close to beliefs know where you said it was. I was just trying to throw more ship a little. I'm not gonna throw shade on Belize. This is a pro belize podcast, an anti McAfee p So this guy who vacations from Orlando. Yeah, this this dude, this like

white ex pat dude. Who this is? He gets really angry at John forming a bunch of uncontrollable dogs right now. It's really hard to tell what happened in the documentary Gringo. Most of the people that Nanette Bernstein talks to seem to think that Greg Fall poisoned John McAfee's dogs. Other people have definitely suspected that. John McAfee himself says that he doesn't think Fall poisoned his dogs, that he didn't think he would do that, but well, I don't know.

The dogs got sick and McAfee shot them all and was apparently furious about it because they were sick, and if they were really poisoned, that's what you do to spare the dogs the pain. It was a bad poison or something like that, I don't I can't know. Greg Fall, on November twelve, two thousand twelve, was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head in his house, and of course a lot of people suspected, oh McAfee hired someone to kill Greg Fall because Greg poisoned his dogs. Really,

I don't know what happened. I don't know if his dogs were poisoned. I don't know if John McAfee's just a goddamn lunatic and he thought his dogs are poisoned and he shot them, and it's all possible. But Greg Fall wound up dead, and John McAfee was considered the obvious suspect, and it's still the obvious suspect, although but no one did anything about it. I guess he was

the law at this point. Things were done. He was not the job in ambergriss k. This was like a part of like Belize that's like really well developed, so like there's law there right in the jungle. He's not back in the jungle anymore. And even back in the jungle, he get rated by the government. So John McAfee, uh, like the police start coming after him to question about this guy who gets murdered, and everyone's saying it was probably John. So hid from the police first by burying

himself in sand. But yes, he was trying to have like the whole day he was straw. He used a box. I'll breathe a through that. This guy is a fucking he has millions of dollars. Sand. The sand is your fresh choice. But sand is where you start. Okay, okay, okay, Joe never So the fallout from this sparked the drama that most people associate with John McAfee. He was a major story for several days. Is the Belizian government searched for him, and he life blogged his evasion of authorities.

So he live blogged himself hiding from the law as he you know, blees and cops are searching for him, and he's staying in safe houses and all this stuff, wearing disguises which are always like, what's up, guys, it's your John. He's typing and I guess in a laptop. He does meet with journalists during this time, and like one thing all the journalists are certain about is that, like he's always in disguise, and he always thinks that disguise is good, and that this guy's is always terrible.

Like it's just a blond wig on a guy who's clearly John McAfee just like one of them wrote about like pretending to be tricked by the disguise because he didn't want Like he figured John wouldn't talk to him if you got to come up and be like, oh where is where is John? So good at hiding? Oh I got to talk to you. Oh the wig, Oh my god, I never would have got I thought you

were blond John McAfee. I'm sorry, okay, So he in the surprisingly regular updates that he posted on his blog while he was hiding out from the law WiFi, like, yeah, Belize is like a country and stuff. I like, so he's plugged in a Belie was not really looking for him. They don't have the kind of resources that we do, Like they don't have a DNA testing lab or anything like that. Like so I don't think like the Belize and law enforcement had the ability to like get that

in two thousand twelve to like be tapping in. They couldn't even tap like his phone. Yeah, they might have been able to do that, but like it's pretty easy to get a burner phone in a place like that out Like spongebobane car himself in sand blog live blogging, he started claiming that the reason the Beligian government was

after him. Was not the murder of Greg Fall, but the fact that he had hacked their government and then covered evidence of some vague, massive corruption, possibly tied to the supposed giant drug ring that he believed was centered in Karmelita. So he frequently claimed to have tens of thousands of words and gigabytes of data, videos and pictures and audio recordings, all proving this, you know, corruption in the government of Belize, but he failed to actually produce anything.

On one blog post titled the Closing Trap, he wrote this, I have been asked why I don't release everything at once. This is the bane of the modern press. The massive information, not just for my story, but for every story is too great for an intelligent digestion. In the timeframe allotted to a journalist prior to the publisher's deadline. The press stories will describe, but they always describe a twisted shadow

and an ill lit room. I must control the flow, so the necessary glue of understanding as time to set. You know, this is like listening to Trump speak. But if like Trump had a better like understanding of vcabulary words going to school right, it's still veaguas fucking I don't know what he said, but it sounded good. At least sounds better twisted, shadow and right than than huge and very very Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't think Trump

knows the word ill um. So McAfee and his much shrunken entourage made their way into Guatemala like snuck through Belize and made their way into Guatemala without a learning the authorities of either country. Having spent again considerable time in Guatemala, I can assure you that it is not hard to sneak into or out of the country. Is it even sneaking? Sometimes you pay the border guard some cash or what it's there. They didn't even ask for a lot, Honestly, it's just really it's rough out there.

They're they're having trouble. You help them out when you can write, like what do you have on you? Sometimes you bribe the cops without and even asking, just because you're like, you know, you look like you're having a rough day. You don't even have to. You didn't even do any crimes for later, for later. Okay, So John's story had people interested, obviously, and we're there's a viral story of a mad millionaire fleeing justice. There will be journalists.

A crew from Vice managed to find John McAfee and spent four days filming his flight to look for the guy in the blonde wig. Pretty that's probably John mccaffee. Now, this is fine from a journalistic point of view, potentially even the start of a really great story. It's certainly a documentary I would be interested in seeing. But someone Advice made a spectacularly poor decision. On December third, two thousand twelve, they published an article titled we are with

John McAfee right now, suckers Yeah. The article included a photo of John McAfee next to an extremely uncomfortable looking Vice editor. It conveyed very little information other than the fact that Vice had found McAfee and they felt the rest of the world were suckers now. Vice soon learned why this is not the sort of thing journalists tend to do, because the person who uploaded the picture to that website failed her move the GEO data from the

pictures flick from the law. They dropped a pen on my man, and they right, right, I mean he's rapist, right, that's true? Actually so and fuck any journalists would do that, like find to wanna hang out with like a criminal and try to like sneak across countries with him. That's a cool story, you know, post about it while you're doing it. See that's the age of millennials. That was a millennial, Like it was a hold onto this information, compile an article, release in a later day. They're like,

I want the likes. Yeah, when he gets into America, be like and vice was with him the whole time, and then being like, oh, that's really I can't wait that long. You guys lost any cool cred bite giving him Twitter like, goddamn with with McAfee right now, so crazy murder. The only thing worse than a nark is an accidental narc Oh yeah, it's just come on. They made it two. Someone just looked up the courtin You might as well just took a picture to something like

really famous Guatemal drafted we're gonna get this restaurant. Yeah, they've got like one of the Pyramids of toll or something in the background. They tagged the restaurant. Yeah, we left the review. McAfee don't like the chicken here with John McAfee. So he got arrested, of course by the Guatemal in Law enforce shout out to them for paying attention to articles. I feel like it was one of those things where they like, well, we have to arrest

him now. I feel like they didn't even find someone sent it to them, Like, hey, y'all, do know he a ship? All right? All right, all right. So McAfee was arrested, but because he was a rich guy, he

was able to quickly hire a famous Guatemalan lawyer. There was a brief worry about him being extradited back to beliefs, but he got around that by faking a heart attack, which basically kept him in the hospital long enough that his lawyer was able to work some magic and get him deported to America, safe and apparently immune from beliefs and justice. Yeah, wow, hey man, you just got a fake a heart attack. He found Guatemala cochrane and just

got away with everyone, got away with everything. Did have to fake a heart attack? How do you? I mean, what do you have to do? Grab your arms? He hurt himself, He like collapsed and hit his head and stuff. Like he really put some work and he sold it. He sold it. I'll give him credit, half asked the fake Hart gave us the life alert he's old enough that if he had just gave it us a I've fallen down and I can't get up. Another lady who's laughed.

That's enough. That's enough. You're like, sixty eight, we believe it. If a sixty year old grabs their chest at any point, I'm not going to question nobody assumes fake heart attack. Yeah, you don't have to get a concussion in the process. And again, look at the picture of John McAfee. John McAfee at sixty nine looked like he'd been eating nothing but crystal meth for forty years. I would yeah, I was. I assumed that hearts on its last big medical conditions.

I'm like, yeah, this makes sense, that's plausible. But you know what McAfee did say earlier in our previous episode, he doesn't do anything half ass. So if he was gonna take a heart attack, of course he's going to get it. He was gonna take a heart attack. And if he was gonna rape somebody, he was going to drug. Oh god, that's the dark side of it. You know, why did he have to do this? I know it's that. That's when I learned I was a fan of his.

So we talked about how I got. I am not a libertarian, but he's a big libertarian figure, and I have some of those impulses. Like I'm a tall, white guy who's been able to get away with a lot, so I understand the impulse of wanting to not have rules and stuff and like I just have enough already. Well yeah, and I like, I have enough friends who rely on you know, medicare or stuff like that. And I'm like, oh no, it's actually really good to have these things, you know, It's it's fine, Like, but I

enjoyed John mcafew stick. It's always like I thought it was fun, this millionaire nut job thing. It was. It was cookie until I could even I could even forgive if it was true that like this guy had poisoned his dogs. I can't even forgive a murder for that, a murder for the poison dogs. That's why I got to slow down. Now. People of the dogs, well yeah, people love dog That's why I'm like, if the only bad people over dogs, Sophie, people over dogs, people over dogs.

If I had to choose between you and your dog, wouldn't you want me to choose? You? Don't ask Sophie that Sophie might actually, yeah, she's saying no. She said kill me and keep her dog alive. It's a great dog.

It is a great dog. Well, I'm not saying it's okay to kill someone over a dog, but I'm saying that, like, if that was the only bad thing he'd done, if someone had poisoned his dogs and then like a heat of passion, he'd committed murder, I could be like, that's not okay, but like passionately that could drive someone crazy. That could like I could see someone not being a

terrible person. Look, I was on his side after he low key murdered his own nephew was like, I was like, I mean, you know, sometimes nephy use the casualty of a scam, you know. But yeah, when he assaulted the woman, I had to hop off the ship. Yeah. Yeah, he's a trash human. Yeah, rape is my line too. But he escaped. He escaped, and we will talk about what happens next, because there is so much more that happens next than there should be, Lacey. It's heartbreaking, but you

know it's not heartbreaking. The wonderful products, services, and or objects that advertised Bye bye, we're back. We just did some ads for some products, and John McAfee just faked a heart attack to escape Guatemala. So now we're back, we're talking about John McAfee. Now after you know, he made his way back into the United States, we all laughed advice for their their big funk up, and then the world just sort of forgot about John McAfee for

a little while. Um, this did not go over well with John McAfee because, as you may have started to know, he kind of likes post publicity. Yeah. I think he likes attention when you going to run from the authorities that you live blocks like this is great content, This will be some good content. I'm trying to catch me for this murder. You would think he would want to

fade into anonymity. Nah. Yeah, So John McAfee in order to uh, you know, get himself back into the spotlight a little bit, like two or three months after this guy gets murdered and he's accused of the murder Greg Fall, you know, has been dead for like three months, John McAfee releases a viral YouTube video, how to uninstall McAfee anti virus featuring John McAfee. Does have a fun premise.

It starts with him in a smoking jacket and like a fake background with a bunch of books behind him, and he's like talking about how bad McAfee anti viruses since he sold out his because he didn't have any interest in it is a shitty problem. This is like how Kevin Spacey wanted his YouTube video to go over. Yes uh, And it's he's wearing like a smoking jacket, like young women come in and like fondle him at

different points and kiss him and stuff. At one point he lights a cigarette with a hundred dollar bill and then he cuts to a stair aeotypically nerdy looking guy who he says will explain how to delete the software, and the rest of the video cuts between that guy trying to delete the software and John McAfee, now half naked wearing a gun, surrounded by women and big comical boxes with like bath salts, like cereal boxes with bath salts written on the front, and he's just railing bath

salts through a silly straw, and every time the video cuts to like that nerdy guy and then back to McAfee, there's more guns and more drugs on the table and more women around him, so they're really enhancing this bit. It's there. They're definitely playing to a bit. I'm gonna play you a little selection of it so you can get an idea of the tenor of this video. John Huh, yes, uh does that sound about right? We'll not completely you know. I mean, it's always there. It's watching. It's been watching

me for years. Every now' drawing on the fucking computer and they're looking at me. You know, something went wrong. Fifteen years ago. I had some beautiful software and they took it over. I don't know what they did. It was like the time I hired that Bangkok prostitute to do my taxes while I suck my It was terrible. The same fucking thing is going on now. But I know what to do. I know exactly what to do. Believe me, I've got a fucking flution right here. So okay,

the graphics in this leave must to be. But yeah, you know a lot of diversity in this video. Why do a a few black women. I guess that's from living in Belize. Well, we'll be getting to that in a little bit, Like say, that is one of the many problematic things about Yeah, yeah, but you can see how someone could just watch that video be like John mccafee, he's a he's a card right, definitely on drugs and

that video his whole body is rid. His whole body's always he's talking in a cadence that ain't yeah yeah, Now, nine million people have viewed that video so far, did very well. A lot of websites talked about it, uh, you know, watching casually. Back then, I assumed John McAfee was a fellow who had a sense of humor about himself, right, like, I know what you guys think, what you do and

all the best ha ha, yeah exactly. The attention gradually faded, though, which prompted McAfee to launch several new schemes in two thousand sixteen. Now unfortunately for John McAfee, unfortunately for truth. That same year, Showtime and director Nannett Bernstein released Gringo, The Dangerous Life of John McAfee. The documentary was packed

with shocking allegations. In addition to doctor at an easy Os rape allegations, it also alleged that members of McAfee's in Essence gang had beat a Belisian man to death, or beat him so badly that he later died in the hospital, and the way it comes across in the documentaries that McAfee became convinced that this guy was trying to kill him, but he was just some random dude in McAfee was like a paranoid nut job. And anyway,

so there's an additional murder. So now there's greg Fall's murder, which the documentary pends on a guy who was kind of part of McAfee's entourage that he probably paid to kill him. We don't really know, but everything in like I would say, it's plausible. It seems really plausible to me based on what I've seen in the documentary and the evidence presented that he's involved in two murders in

addition to the right. So now the documentary comes out, and of course John McAfee can't let that thing just just lie, you know. Of course, of course not. I'm sure he appreciated the attention well. He responded to the documentary alleging that he had murdered two people and raped a woman the same way he responded to everything else

by being a goddamn maniac. He shot out a rapid fire series of tweets, including a picture of a Belizian newspaper with an article titled money for Lies and of course pictures of John McAfee and several sources of the documentary. John also posted video interviews with some of his Belizian girlfriends, essentially making the same claims about the Showtime documentary. These girls have been on the documentary and then suddenly they were showing up on YouTube videos claiming that they had

been fed answers and stuff like that. He put up a Medium post where he laid out the case against the network and the net Bernstein. That Medium article included a video where several young Beligian men basically declared Dr d Anisio a fraud and a loose woman and said that of course why would she rape she was sucking everybody.

That it's really a gross Later reporting by Bernstein had several of these people who filmed, you know, the people that McAfee had had film videos for him, basically tell her like, look, we did it because he paid his twelve bucks and we're dirt poor. It's bads, we don't have much money. We needed the cash. I can't say this for certain, it is impossible for me to know, but I'm gonna play an excerpt from one of these videos and It really does seem like something somebody would

do for twelve bucks. So all listen, Yes I met her. Man. By the way, my name is Felix. You know. Um, all listen. You know we were talking about about John. You know that he raped you. But um, if you're talking I am about rape. Come on, I should be the one that could accuse you. You know, because I was seventeen years old. Do you remember that. Well, you know, I was working here in the property as well from

the beginning, so I was always around, you know. So all listen, used to stay and um in our village, you know. So I lived very close to her, next to my aunt. So she invited me over and you know, we had talks. We you know, we used to go to the club, drink and stuff like that. I'm for sure, man, we had a lot of sex and stuff like that. There's several of those. They're all like that. You just say that this man is in gas station sunglasses, and I've never seen somebody's neck move more in my life.

If you want to just talk about physical physical attributes of a liar, this man straight up. If y'all can see this video, imagine Stevie Wonder in gas station knockoff. Oakley's just above it in the weaven telling us the story. Yeah, he definitely got paid for short. You can see this video and all of the sources for this episode on

our website Behind the Bastards dot com. If you want to watch a man lighted this credit a rape survivor that was that was a ted talk and just lie if that, please go watch that video because if anybody ever communicates which you like that in your life, you're definitely not telling you the truth now. McAfee's medium post also alleged that Bernstein and Showtime paid sources for their interviews,

which would be a breach of journalistic ethics. As proof, he included a Western Union receipt for thirty five dollars from Nanette Bernstein to one of the subjects of the documentary. Nannette claims that this money that was paid was in exchange for licensing pictures and video taken by these sources, and the documentary has a ton of that. It's filled with pictures that these people who were hanging out with John and were sources of the documentary took of them

and videos they took. Because she wasn't able to tape John mccafee and considering how much of that she used, Yeah, I could totally see here paying well over thars for that kind of stuff, like having film documentaries and places like this. I don't didn't pay people for their interviews, but I definitely paid people for access to footage. You know, it's what you do out there, and sometimes you pay

them thousands of dollars. And it is kind because it is you're paying for the footage, but there definitely are implications I could lead people to believe that you're also kicking in for their story. It's not the black and whitest area of journalism, but it's not inherently shady that

she would have paid these people. But what's crazy is that people love to believe abusers and liars like this when it's like, come on now, if you saw a dude that looked like John McAfee on the motherfucker's street as somebody told you that he was a rapist, and let's say he was having a party tonight and he was like you trying to give you a flyer, or somebody's like, god, that guy's a rapist, he would be like, okay, I'm not gonna go to that party, like you would

immediately not go to that party. I feel like giant full arm and shoulder length tribal tattoos are like being in the sex offender registry, Like it says the same thing to me, like okay. Also, just like he was walking advertisement for met and fed me, like please stop acting like y'all didn't watch those truth commercials in the nineties where people were melting into couches and ship It was always a dude who looked just like McAfee on there picking up his damn face like he is the

after photo of Craig No. I believe everybody the after photo of something so uh. In that medium post, McAfee's mentioned suing Showtime for defamation. As of this moment, no lawsuit has been launched. There is some evidence that after decades of buying expensive homes and equally expensive lawsuits, as well as however much money it costs to flee justice and belize and higher Guatemala's best criminal defense attorney, Yeah, John McAfee was running low on cash at this point

and there's a little bit evidence of that. So despite having claimed that he was done with the business world back in he signed a deal with MGT, a cyber security company, to become its CEO. Shares rose I think so yeah, shares rose with this announcement. Now, as part of the deal, MGT agreed to buy McAfee's Divasive app, an anti spyware program that someone had developed and that he was sticking his name on because he had some

brand recognition. So for a while this seemed like a potential gold mine until the SEC subpoena then him and sent stocks tumble back down again. M he was snorting fake bath salts, fake bath salts, CEO raising shares even after the shares fell because the SEC subpoened them, was

still up like five just because it had McAfee's name attached. Wow. Yeah, it's frustrating, But no amount of legal, financial, or business trouble was going to stop John McAfee from hitting that last square on the white guy bingo card and running for president of the United States. At the time, I thought, M in believe of the United States, Lord, and if he had ran at the right time, he probably would be president right now. Because this is a smarter Trump.

He did run in the same election Trump ran in. So yeah, he started giving lurid interviews to YouTube channels with names like Liberty Pen and other Libertary. He ran as a that's why he didn't win. He ran as a racist. I mean, I mean what, yeah, I mean, you're probably right if he's just thrown in some like. That's the thing about McAfee is all of his racism has been of the consuming people's dietism. He's a culture vulture. He's a culture vulture. But he's not to build the

wall kind of guy. No, no, no, yeah, although maybe he'll turn into that in the next two or three years. Transformed. So the videos for John McAfee's presidential campaign were distinctly less fun than his wacky McAfee uninstalled McAfee viral hit. That video had been pretty clearly tongue in cheek. You know, the guns and the drugs are all joking, right, Like it's it's kind of silly funny because yeah, but it's funny because like he's making fun of this image that

he had. Sure, yeah, he was definitely poking fun at the image. Yeah, the campaign videos. In these videos, the caricature has gone. It's not funny anymore. Not a bad I think he is, but he's not joking about it, and he's not joking about the guns either. The video is portrayed just a heavily armed and clearly unhinged man. So I'm gonna play you a selection from that video, but I really recommend you at home watch it again, John McAfee. And this does not come across a wacky

or mad cap. He seems ill, like very ill, like our current president. Yeah, in chaos, power is powerless. Power only works when there is a structure through which power can flow, the boss, the second in command, the third in command, the fourth in command, the peon. When that breaks down and the peon no longer is listening, and the peon goes, I'm mad as hell and I'm not

taking this ship anymore, then chaos rains. So the whole video is like that is, he spends a lot of time talking about how the Sinaloa cartel is coming to kill him. He's always got a gun in his hand. There's tons of shots of him just walking around on his porch with a rifle, like his security guard is like it's he seems unhinged, right, you saw it, Like he's just always got a gun like but in this day, it is though, I'm like, I can still see him being a viable kid. Yeah, No, I'm not saying he

wouldn't be viable. I'm saying he seems ill in that Oh absolutely, Like what was he even talking about? The peon? Peon? Is that you? Is that me? Why are you loading guns in this video in your presidential campaign? Are you about to shoot? In this presidential campaign video? The Sinaloa Cartel. His belief has evolved from like this town as a center of drug trafficking to the Beliesian government and the

Sinaloa cartel are after him. So now in that video, he talks a lot about how like, yeah, the cartel is coming to murder him and his family. Why we want you to be president? Why would we want you? That seems like we have to start really invested in more security and like you all wanted man. Also, he's smoking copious amounts of cigarettes in this video. What are

we supposed to take from this? It's really weird. He also drinks um increasingly in the things you've seen, He's been claiming he's been sober and hasn't drunk at this point on, He's never not drinking whenever journalists around him whenever he's in a video, he's always drinking huge amounts of alcohol. And he gains about forty pounds from two thousand and sixteen up to present day. And I think it's mostly from the liquor. He looks kind of healthy, though,

he looks kind of healthy there. This is the start. This is the start, okay, because I was about to say he was pretty cracked out, so forty pounds actually would look nice on his frame. Now, there's a woman in that video named Janice Dyson. Now, in December twelve, when John McAfee first returned to the U s from Central America, he met Janice outside of a cafe in Florida. She offered him a blow job. He said no, but he paid her to cuddle. At least according to him,

they wound up striking up a relationship. This apparently angered her pimp, a guy named crutch Field, who she and McAfee claim wanted her to give him info on where McAfee was staying so he could kidnap McAfee or something. It's crutch Fields, the name of the pimp that sounds like a pimp that does very but like a low budget pimp. Cutch Field doesn't have any crushed velvet. He

doesn't own any gate of shoes. I don't think any of the nice he met her outside of a cafe, Like yeah, he's like operating out of like a six Nissan, you know what I mean. This ain't a good pimp. We're not talking about like Bellagio level, right right, This ain't Bishop. Crush Field is a very low budget pimp. They probably not even accepting venmo or like app payments, Like they either don't accept venmo or only take venmo. He probably still bartering like yeah, we'll do sex acts

for for can goods. No it's not John McAfee. They might take bitcoin. Yeah, so Crushfield one of the location anyone cation so we can kidnap John McAfee. Janice apparently claims that she like stopped talking to her pimp at this point, and she and John start dating and they got married two thirteen, So a few months after meeting him, they get married, but they seem to have had an

instantly kind of difficult relationship. Um so later in two thousan thirteen, she leaves their home in Portland after a fight and calls crutch Field she got her pimp I don't. I don't know what her life really be. Low on funds, he must be low on funds, or maybe they had a good relationship. I don't know. No, I mean like McAfee must be low on funds because I feel like once you leave your pimp, you don't go back to pimping. Well,

if you leave your rich husband. Maybe as right there, she might have been going to him for emotional support. I don't know. I don't know. But he told her people were after McAfee. Uh, And she claims that, you know, she reconciled with John after this, but crutch Field started blackmailing her and making her leave the doors of their home unlocked and trying to get her to drug his

food so he'd be easy to kidnap. Now very possible these are all lies on her part, because I do think that John mc if he may have married another scammer. Oh for sure, he liked scammers. I will say this, the journal or the doctor who went to play guitar and then met him in a bar and then started working in a compound. That sounds like some scammer ships in me, like she was also a scammer for sure. Well, we'll get into what she might have been doing. No, no, no,

nothing justifies what he did to her. But I just also want to say that she was definitely a scammer. His nephew was a scammer. Ne nepnoptism He was definitely a nep neptism um. He was definitely a scammer. So I wouldn't be surprised. It's like planetary bodies. These people orbit around each other. That's just the way it works. But what orbits around this podcast are the fine sponsors

and advertisers that support this show. We're back. We're talking about John McAfee who has just married uh young lady named Janice, who claims that after a fight, she wound up being blackmailed by her pimp to help him kidnap John McAfee, probably on behalf of some cartel or something. It's really hard to say what happened here and what the truth is. This is what Janice claims, this is

what McAfee claims. There were several interviews with him published after the two thousand and sixteen election, and you know this was all well, he'd moved to Tennessee by this point and bought a small compound in Tennessee this time. Um, so it's really hard to say what happens, but this is what he starts telling journalists around this time that his wife tried to have him murdered or tried to

have him kidnapped or something. And yeah, it's it makes sense she did contact the pimp again, so maybe maybe so anyway, what we do. What we know for sure is that after the sixteen election, interviews with John McAfee at his compound in Tennessee show him like really degenerating. For one thing, he's drinking constantly, even though he was

still claiming to be so at that point. For another, his security detail expanded from the one guy you see in that video to like a basketball team worth of muscular, heavily armed men, like he posed with them regularly, like he'd love to photo shoot. Yeah, he's always naked, always wearing a gun, and always surrounded by big guys with guns. Like McAfee gives me like rapper vibes, Like I'm getting a lot of chief key, like a lot of like

just posing with guns, you know what. I really like that he really likes not shooting anyone, just having a like who's taking the photo shoes like, all right, could you smile less? Yeah? Yeah, can we get the gun more? You look tougher, a little tougher, okay, yeah, just flex your arms. Make sure the guy with a really big bicep corner right, can we get him in front so we can see the bicep lovely, we really need that beautiful Okay, and just cheat the gun a little to

the left. Great. Great, that's great. McAfee, that's great. So uh. In September seen, all of John mccafee's paranoia exercised itself in a heavily armed rampage by John McAfee against his own home. Here's Newsweek quote. September four, Alex Hendrick, one of his guards, woke up in his basement bedroom to the sound of gunfire. Having served in the army for eight years, the private security guard recognized the noise. Immediately realizing the shots were coming from the rooms above him,

Hendrick grabbed his assault rifle and rushed upstairs. There, naked but for an ammunition belt, was seventy one year old tech tycoon and former fugitive John McAfee spraying bullets into the wall and ceiling of the living room. Seeing Hendrick, he stopped firing. There's an intruder, he said. Janice McAfee, thirty four, John's wife of nearly five years, recalled that the couple were having sex at their home in Lexington, Tennessee, that night when they were interrupted by their dogs barking.

He thought he heard movement in the crawl space under a bedroom in the attic, and then fired his gun into both areas. She later said in a statement to the FBI obtained by Newsweek. So seventy one engaged in coitus and found by his bodyguard naked with a bandelier of AMMO firing and which I want to be seventy one nakedly shooting up my own home. That sounds like a great time, right. This man has impeccable health. Yeah,

he's he's he's very robust. Talk about somebody who put their body through the wringer and that ship is holding up. Should we all be doing bath salts? Yes, our bath salts the key to hell. You need bath salts, guns and dogs, and that's apparently the key to health. Sophie. You look, I really can't tell what emotion you're expressing right now. You have a gun, so you're already a third of the way there. I mean a dog, So you're already you haven't dogs, not a gun. Dogs. Yeah,

he has a lot of dogs. He has a lot of dogs. Oh that after he murdered dogs, he has more dogs. Yeah, keeps getting more dogs. Seems to be a dog lover. Now. After this armed rampage, Janice claims she told McAfee that his wild paranoia was justified because she'd been informing on him to her former pimps. So this is when she tells John that she's been informing on him to her pimp. So she's validating his delusion a little bit. It might be that it might be

a scam. It might be that he was just so angry that she felt like she had to tell him something so that he would calm down. Like it's really hard to tell what happened, but something nuts is happy when you're talking to a senile man with an assault rifle, bat salt again. At the time she's telling him this, he is naked with a gun in his hand, having just damaged their ear drums permanently by firing an assault

rifle inside like John cooking outside. Okay, you know what, I'm the guy I was trying to kill you, but now we're fine, which, if we look at history, that probably worked for him, since his last girlfriend definitely tried to shoot him in the head and he was like, all right, well you sleeping in the guesthouse now, yeah, maybe she just wanted a guesthouse. You tried to shoot a John, you get a house. So after this whole misadventure, John McAfee told Newsweek, quote, it's a complicated morass of

a spider's web. I am the fly, and the spider has more than eight legs. This is more or less the tenor of reading. John McAfee has said, uh, since two thousand sixty, very poetic. Yeah. So, because the security detail could find no signs of forced entry, McAfee started living under the assumption that some of them too, were in on the giant conspiracy against him. Oddly enough, John stayed with Janice, the wife who just admitted to helping drug king Bens hunt him. Quote, it's been one plot

after another. My wife was in full cooperation with them, but at the same time trying to urge me not to do things that would lead me directly into the trap without telling me that she was cooperating to collect me. Janie has probably done more good than harm because while she was cooperating, she at the same time kind of likes me. I guess. He told Newsweek that he had no plans of leaving his wife and that they are

still together today. He told them he loved her. She was not willing to say that she loved him, but she did tell Newsweek that she admired her husband. So there's that. I don't really know. You won't even lie to a news source about loving someone that means you hate them, because I wouldn't listen if I'm with the man. You know, he paid these bills and I ain't gotta go back down to fun. What was his name was crutch Field? Fucking crotchety ass himp named Crutchfield. Crutchfield. You

know you're working long days? Like hell? No, like I at least say I love him on TV Newsweek not even real journalists. Yeah, like, yeah, you know, sorry, Newsweek. That was meaning for no reason. I don't know. I feel like maybe you deserve it and like, let me just research. Yeah, quote from Newsweek. In an email to NEWSWEK November twelve, McAfee wrote, I eat, sleep, and shower with a pistol in my hand. When I enter the main house from my bedroom secured with a ten gage

solid steel door. My two German shepherds and one pit bull precede me. Moments before I emerge, I call my head of security and request that my detail all be sitting in reclining chairs with their feet up, a vulnerable position since I am standing and armed. It is not a fun situation. John mcfee's crazy right now. Oh yeah, for sure. What his dogs and he's and he's pretty neurotic to like to think that you're like, dude, really you made an anti virus software program. Like you're not

all choco, Like you don't have anything anybody wants. Calm down, John, Like nobody's looking for you. Nobody cares. The year after that Batshit Newsweek article was published, Men's Journal senter writer to John McAfee's compound, where it became clear the situation had deteriorated even further. McAfee spent his days darting around his compound looking for partly eaten packets of cream cheese,

which he said were evidence of cartel hitman YEP. At one point, he picked up a random rock and insisted that it had been brought over from Mexico to help the hitman with their homesickness. The journalists noted that, like, because Maggie was like, they don't have rocks like this in America, and the guy was like, there was a pilot rocks nearby that looked just like it. He's just, you know, he really lost it. These aren't even signals.

I mean, at least if there was like an avocado around, you could be like, yeah, the cartel left his avocado. But a rock is some cream cheese. Well it's hard to because number one, we one thing we know about John McAfee, what's his favorite pastime lying to journalists? So this could all be an act. But it also really seems like a lot of this might just be that he's gone off the deep end and he's bought into his own bullshit and he's legitimately crazy. Now I really

don't know. Um. The article did make it very clear. The Men's Journal article made it very clear that John McAfee, who had been claiming to be sober for years, was now drinking heavily all day, every day, even pounding vodka in the t s. A line at the airport, which I've done. I'm not gonna I'm not too proud. I've wasted. Can't take it with you. You can't take it with

you will take it away. So you pour it into a coffee thermis and you make sure that you're just sober enough to walk through that line, and then whatever happens in the airport after that is fine. Right. Yeah, they have so many bars in the airport. That's what they tell you to get there early. It's a scam. You don't need to get there early for t s. You gotta get the earliest. We can sit around in the airport bar and drink. I mean, that's why I

get to the airport early. Airports like international laws, Like it's five o'clock all the time at the air port, always five o'clock, and nobody's got a problem if you're drinking. Oh hell no, you can drink it to name and people are like, ah, it's fine. I love airports now. The writer of that Men's Journal article followed John McAfee

and his entourage to speak at a technology conference. During that time, the writer had a moment with McAfee's bodyguard, an older gentleman named Pool, and I'm going to read that quote because it really gives you some incredible color on the kind of people John McAfee has surrounded himself his last name. Okay, last night quote. I sit with Pool, a bald and white haired man with a penchant for endless Southern fried chatter and a devout belief in his boss.

He doesn't go anywhere without me, says Pool, blowing on his coffee. He won't say exactly what he did before working with McAfee, but it involved a connected family in Chicago. I know there are bad guys out to get him, and it's not going to happen on my watch. I don't need sleep. I can watch all day and night. Pool makes a face and excuses himself. A few minutes later, he returns, holding a napkin to his bleeding mouth. I

asked him what happened. I had a tooth that was othering me, so I went outside and asked the construction work or if I could borrow a wrench. He shows me an off color fang that was in his mouth ten minutes ago. Pool tosses it into the trash. He flashes a gap tooth smile. Now I can enjoy my coffee. What okay, okay, First of all, McAfee, you can't get you your entourage no dental like they can't get dental. I guess they can't go to the dentist if they

watch a day and night exactly. He's gonna do his own dentist work. You know, I'm gonna call this guy and Andy King, That's what I'm calling all people who are just this devout. Andy King was that dude who said he was gonna suck dig for every out water in the Fire Festival documentary. And now if anybody is that dedicated, but I might have to change it to pool.

He's tooth out to impress a guy for Men's Journal, which it's a good article, good good, right, and good journalism, but weird, flex bro, your teeth are falling out, fam because if you could take I don't care if you had a construction tool, if you could take your own tooth out, that joint was loose. Yeah, probably Like you're all, man, how are you going to fight? I don't. I mean with a gun. You can be old and dangerous, yeah, I guess, but people can disarm people with guns. Was

also old. He chopped everybody and then he pulls his own teeth out, So poor guy just just to pull back for a minute. In the fifteen years or so since the sky Gypsies were a thing, John McAfee has gone from an extreme sports guru partying with a bunch of rich adventure junkies to a very sick, very paranoid maniac, hanging out with a constellation of mentally ill people and opportunists, suckling off as apparently limitless cash reserves and enabling his paranoia. Now.

I spent a lot of my time when I was working in this article trying to figure out what exactly had driven John to such a place of madness. I got one possible answer near the end of my research after a helpful fan on Twitter appointed me to an article published by Jeff Wise in New York Magazine in two thousand sixteen, The obscure legal drug that fuels John McAfee. So you remember when they found those crystals, crystalline chemical and his jungle fortress. We're about to learn what it

probably was. Quote from that article. A former member of his inner circle forwarded me a photo of a packaging label that one of McAfee's friends took in the course of a four day binge earlier in this month in New York City. Now the bene was in New York, but this is while John was living in Tennessee, not all that long before he started shooting up his own house and wandering around the grounds looking for cream cheese packets.

Quote the label from a package delivered from a Chinese chemical company suggest by McAfee never called the drug by name. The moniker one finnel to one pyrodinal one hex n on hardly rolls, tripping lee off the tongue. The chemical compound has no street name, although among organic chemists it goes by the slightly catchiered handle of alpha PHP. Now.

Alpha PHP is a dopamine uptake reinhibitor. UH. It basically makes you happy, deliriously excitedly happy, Like your brain normally releases dopamine during good times and then it sucks it back up into the synapses because you know, you don't want to have too much going on there. A drug like this stops your brain from sucking it back up. It's kind of the same thing that ecstasy does with Sarah tonin. So uh. It's a powerful happy drug, UM,

but it has downsides. Too, you don't say, there's a fantastic website that if you're if you're looking at experimenting with drugs the way I did when I was nine, If you're experimenting with drugs, you gotta check out errow it. It's a fantastic website. It collects errow wit errow w R O w I D Okay, because it sounds like you said, heroinformation gets you gotta start with that's where you start. No, no, don't start there. Don't ever go there, Okay,

erow wind Guys. So if you're like into like I did, you know I've done. I've done like my ecstasy and my LSD and stuff. But I also did a bunch of weird ship that like two C T seven five mm e O M I P T uh what not d x M that's a common one, but like M D p V, I've done like weird. If you want, if you're gonna do weird stuff, like we're gonna do like the chemicals and stuff. Yeah, they do sound like noise bands. A lot of noise bands are named after drugs.

If you're gonna do that stuff, you gotta go to arrowit because it collects stories of other drug users, a lot of whom are also chemists to have made this stuff, and so it will be like the best health information available. But it also includes reports from people who have done this stuff and so. On this website, looking up alpha PHP, I found a particularly evocative review that I think will help us understand what was going on in John McAfee's

head as he takes this stuff. The review was titled from Psychonaut to Junkie in two weeks, so it's not a happy story quote. I felt the rush build up in five minutes, and for the next twenty minutes I felt the most intense euphoria I have ever known. This felt miles more euphoric than cocaine. Surprisingly, it even felt better than meth. It felt too good, and twenty minutes later I felt the most heart pounding anxiety attack. I realized my stimulant tolerance was at zero forty MILLI him

as a start dose with too much. I called myself down and walked around my entire house trying to ease my mind. After one hour of the initial dose, I took another thirty five to forty milligram line and the euphoria struck me again. It didn't wind out down like it with cocaine. The second line never feels as good as the first with cocaine, but with this it pretty much brought the euphoria back. So this guy describes as

like better and more addictive cocaine. And we know John McAfee has a problem with cocaine, right, And I can see John having a similar first experience because this guy had a low tolerance when he first started. John's been sober for years and not doing and he happened exactly. I can see this hitting him hard, and I can see him falling hard in love with it. And the best thing about it, of course, would be that it's legal.

There's something called the Analog Act, so if a drug that's not explicitly illegal by name is too similar to another drug that is illegal, that drug is also illegal. But there's a lot of drugs out there that are really powerful psychedelics. You can tripp for like fucking sixteen hours, but there's no law against them because it's just something some somebody tweaked a couple of chemicals and now like this new psychedelic exists, and like, that's so what I

was doing. I was a teenagers, we would buy this ship like nineteen twenty, we would buy this ship from like Canadian pharmaceutical sites, and you would just experiment with stuff nobody's done, and you're like, you've got some weird chemical that you're like, hope this doesn't kill me, Like, but the other thing you're hoping is that you don't run into what John ran into, which is like for everybody out there, there's one drug that will be your downfall.

Like it's for some people, it's alcohol, for some people, it's meth for some people it's pills. Everybody's got a substance that if you were to try it, you'd realize it fills some hole in your head so well that like it's instantly a problem for you. Like that's that's something anyone who experiments with a lot of substances that's always in the back of your head. You're very much playing Russian Roulette when you start messing around with this stuff.

And I think John McAfee hit a loaded cylinder like that. That's exactly what happened, is he started playing around with some chemicals and he found one that hit his neurotransmitters just right. I'd just filled the hole in his brain because it's like, you can't go out and get this ship. You can't walk down the street or go to you

know what I mean, that's possibly true. I'm gonna bet it's actually way cheaper than coke because it's not dark web like you just it doesn't have to be dark it's legal, so you you could just you could be so I can go to Walgrains and get this ship. No, but if you're you could. You're ordering it from like China or whatever. You can order it by the pound, and it's probably not crazy expensive, like if it's if it's not illegal, if they're just shipping it to you,

then there's no demand. Yeah, why would it Why would it be expensive? Like, yeah, as long as it's someone's making it, it can be pretty reasonable. I haven't looked into what Alpha php costs, but I'm gonna guess it's cheaper than good blow. That's crazy, I don't know, um, But but it also makes sense though, because if this is something that specifically made um and it's not made to sell for cheaper, Like why blow is expensive, It's because most of its cut with ships, so you're paying

to not snort baby laxative or whatever. Yeah, Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. So a lot of John's behavior since two that's intend makes more sense if you realize he's been pounding better cocaine into his brain and increasing ghosts the entire time, and his what he was doing with Allison and that lab makes more sense if you think, oh, maybe this was how John wanted to fund his medical research is by selling alpha PHP

because it's legal. And again he didn't get busted when the government found it, not because they had no idea what it was. It's one of those things. As soon as I read this article, a whole bunch of stuff fell into place that was all weird and it's like, oh, he was on this weird ass drug the whole time, and he was trying to sell it, and that's part of what he was doing in Belize. Yes, also, it must be hard to try to sell drugs when you are on them. Well, I assume he had distributors and stuff.

You know, he's a business guy. He's good, he's he's he's good as businesses. Yeah, sure, he's fine at that part. Um. Now, the writer on Arrowood went on about his experiences, quote more and more, this substance start to take control of my life. I would be up all night. Now, instead of focusing on the task at hand, my procrastination was amplified. Instead of the rush, I just got an energy boost.

Something strange about this substance. I began to notice like it had hijacked my mind and started to control me, and involuntarily I would be redosing without being fully aware that. I started to binge a few days straight. I said to myself, I don't have anything to worry about. I'm not an addict. I'll taper and give it up for a week. It never happened. The cravings were too intense. My mind was wired to seek it. The cravings were most intense, the most intense I ever felt. This is

similar to cocaine. If I have a bag of cocaine, I want to finish it. It also hijacked my mind in a similar fashion. Cocaine was more fienish to me. Once the bag was done, I wouldn't have any desire to seek it again for a while. There were no cravings after the cocaine was gone, but there were strong cravings. While I had outa PHP, I would continue to snort it even though I knew that there was no point and I'm wasting it. But it is so hard to

break that craving desire. This is what John McAfee might be on now, if the latest videos he's been posting or anything to go by, McAfee is definitely on this stuff. Because is about two weeks before this episode will drop. John McAfee announced to the Internet the I r S had convened a grand jury and Tennessee to charge him, his wife, and for McAfee twenty campaign workers with tax fraud. John admitted that he had not been paying taxes for

the last eight years. UH. He further announced that in order to evade the I r S, he would be conducting his presidential campaign in exile aboard a boat sailing to and from various foreign ports YEA. In a series of tweets that have just been quite the ride, he claims his boat has thirty high tech firearms, and videos he has posted certainly show numerous guns among he and his crew. McAfee has a documentary on board what he's

dubbed the Freedom Boat. UH. He's claiming the government's trying to rest in for political reasons, so he's trying to like seek asylum in the exumas under the wants that to be the reason. He wants that to be. No, John, you admitted he didn't pay taxes at eight years. That's what happens. He wants to be so baller. It really

seems like he wants to be like a thug. Yeah. Anyway, what I wanted to point I want you to watch one of the videos he posted on the second day of his egg zile because it really makes him look like he's on Alpha page. I'm gonna actually, before you play this, I'm gonna read you one last description from this user talking about what the drug did to him. People around me could notice my addiction before I did.

They noticed my peoples were strange. They noticed I wasn't eating much or at all, and they noticed how fast I was talking. They noticed my nose was stuffy. My family noticed my face was changing, but they weren't all that concerned, just that I looked different. My dad said, I looked much weaker, with my hands all constantly shaky. Now I'm gonna play this video and you tell me if this looks like a guy going through that exact

fucking thing. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, you're probably wondering how I'm going to manage my presidential campaign on the boat I have with me on this little speaker, my campaign manager, Rob los you in New York. We're going to be explain it. First of all, we have thousands of volunteers. Rob and one of our other volunteers are creating masks of my face. He looks like he's sitting

in a massage chair, like his whole body is moving. Yeah, he can't stop moving the entire to his nose, and it looks like he's consciously trying not to touch his nose, but his hand just keeps flying up there. I had a little Twitter interaction with him, and he started claiming like people because I joked that he was on cocaine because that's what I thought. I hadn't read about the Alpha PHP and he was like, I'm not on cocaine. I'm a I'm a seventy three year old man. You know,

you lose control of your body and stuff. And I lived with my grandpa when he was dying of Parkinson's at a d four. I know what it looks like when an old man loses control of his body. I've also done a lot of cocaine. And I know what it looks like when people are railing amphetamines and other kinds of uppers. It looks like that. Like that is what it looks like when you do too much, uncontrollable. Like I've seen sign language people like, you know, people

who like interpret I've seen interpreters move less. Yeah, like he's his hands were constantly moving. Yeah, my god, it's scary. Right. He doesn't look healthy, No, not at all. Now he's posted numerous videos from his boat exile. He seems to be safely in the exhumers. Now. He at one point put up like a chart manifest of like what's on the boat, and it was like seven brave soldiers, you know,

one John McAfee, four ten pounds of dogs. And he listed his wife as one terrifying black woman, John McAfee, that's the right response, and one angry black So you know where we're equipped. Yeah, look, oh god, John and his dogs look so confused, and all those they don't belong on yachts, their dogs. And this is also why people should not have this much money. Like this man did not need this much money, had no idea what

to do with it. He manifested this whole life, and it's been a really bad one for a lot of the people around him. Now, I will note that I haven't found any evidence yet that the I R S actually did convene a grand jury in Tennessee. That's what John McAfee. So I don't think that they did. Because when the I R S comes to get you, they come to get you, they really do. It seems like they're they usually are pretty on the ball. They pick you up and they're like insist on a boat absolutely by.

They don't get to leave the country when the IRS wants you. Maybe they slipped up, or maybe or maybe it had more to do with the fact than On November eighteen, roughly a month before John would get on his boat and go on the run, he was found legally liable via default judgment for the death of Greg Fall or murder of Greg Fall. I should say he was also found legally liable in two thousand and fourteen for the death of his nephew and that student at

the Sky Gypsy Academy. Now, on November six, two eighteen, John tweeted about the judgment against him in the Greg Fall murder case. Quote this was my two third lawsuit. I never answered them. I always default to whatever their lawyers claim. My first wrongful death was due to an airplane that crashed piloted by my student pilot. I was found liable. I owe nothing, own nothing, and no one

has ever collected. So it is possible at the end of all this that all of this madness, all of John McAfee's posturing with guns and his talk of drugs, that this is all more of an act, That this whole I R s things, whole presidential campaign, he's flying to uh the Exumas on a boat, that this is all just as much of a sham as his medical lab and belize that he's not maybe even not on

alpha php and bath salts. Maybe this is all in act too, And maybe rather than being some Heart of Darkness style tale of Madison paranoia, John McAfee is just an asshole who's okay with rape and murder, doing whatever he can to predict whatever remains of his fortune from his lawyers. Maybe this is yet another scheme, like when he went to those newspapers back in the day, and he's just knows that he doesn't want greg Falls family to collect on anything, and so he fled the country.

I don't know, or he's a madman on drugs on a boat or both. It's gotta be. It's gotta be. It's probably got. He's probably both lying to everyone on because he's definitely drinking a lot. That they quarts of liquor on the boat the way that which was he telling people? I don't know, because he's most people have enough shame to just like no shame. This guy also

like he this is freaking crazy. He has been entangled with so many people's demise, this woman's rape, these people's murder, and like he has to at least be a sociopath, and he needs attention, like he needs people to be looking at him. He poses with guns like always for the last like thirty some odd years, He's never not had an enter. It feels like he's obsessed with celebrity, like he wants to be He's like a con artist,

but he also wants to be famous. He's got a lot of like he reminds me of Trump, but like a way smarter guy. This guy is intelligent and that he's not He's argue that he's so smart, but I also I feel like he's lost control to a degree, because what he's doing now is not as well thought, like his lie about being in financial trouble and then escape to believe that was a good con well executed. This seems like he may have lost the con a little bit, like he may just be winging it right

now because he's got some problems and he's old. His mind's not working as well. He's on drugs and drinking again. I don't know, maybe this is just a scammer in his twilight years. I would assume that everyone on this boat is on this drug too. Yeah, maybe I think they might more be a mix of people who are doing it for the money. Like the boat pilot. It seems like a guy who's just like, yeah, dude, I just need and his wife, I assume, probably also in

it for the money. She doesn't look like she's like. None of the other people on the boat have the same sort of like jerky, spasmodic kind of air to them that McAfee does. I'm sure they're all drinking. I think it's probably a mix of true believers who thinks he's like liberal Terry and Jesus, and a mix of people who are just in it for the cash, but I really don't know. It's weird. I hope his dogs are okay, Sophie. I don't really care about any of the people on that boat, but I hope the dogs

are all right now. Those people have willingly, they know what they're in for. You don't get on a boat who looks like that. You don't get on a boat with this guy, with this guy and have me feel bad when it goes wrong on you. Right like, that black woman is on the second worst boat ride for black people. Have probably Jesus Like, there's obviously one boat ride that was a lot worse for us, but this one is probably also pretty bad, not as not as bad, but it's up there. We're gonna put it on the

scale because that's a boat I would not be getting on. No, no, no, no no. I will say I've had a couple of friends who were sex workers, and a number of people that I've interviewed who did that job, and the one thing all of them have said about being a sex worker is you never get on a guy's boat. Never ever ever get on a rich guy's boat. Water. Yeah, throw my hands into it out, I know, but I

mean he documented that she's on the boat. Yeah, there's only one terrifying black woman that is associated with it, that's true. And he's posted a lot of videos of their stuff. Oh there's stuff, well, just like them flying, driving around the boat, them drinking, like a lot of like out of focus pictures of chunks of the boat. Like it's really weird. But it's going to live forever. He's got another twenty years in and amongst sure, he's going to kill at least three more people, probably rape

another couple of people. Oh no, Yeah, this guy what a degenerate, Like she harmed so many, a lot of people, his own family, just a lot of people. So I gotta ask you, are you gonna vote for him? I mean, he's not that much different from Trump. I mean, to be real, I mean I might pick him over Trump. But at least he's upfront with this ship. You know, he's eloquent. He just got a lot of presidential John McAfee eventually tells the truth when he commits Christ he

got an army. He got his own army. Yeah, he's funding his own militia for no reason. And at least, you know, not paying taxes in eight years is still more recently than the president's paid tax right, right, we could probably at least get his taxes. He probably has a couple of tacks returns, right he hasn't like railed bassalts through the rolled up paper. Listen, and Trump is doing adderall which one is better? Yea, yeah, yeah, take

it back? Alright, Lacy, you get some plug double to plug. Yes. Um. I love scams, so this is a great podcast when you come on my scam podcast, Scam Goddess will be dropping soon. So follow me on Twitter at Diva Lacey d I v A l A c I and on Instagram at Diva Lacey d I V A l A c I. On Instagram, you can watch my stories. That's where most of my activity is. I'll read your fortune. That's my latest scam. What do you think John McAfee's

fortunate as Oh, honestly, it's really like prosperity. I don't even want to lie to He's got twenty more years of good, good Alabaster, you know, luck in him. Okay, he'll be the governor of fucking California. I've never seen somebody take white privilege so far. God not, God bless you, because I hope he does not bless you, but he already got plenty. He got so much, so much. The world is so fucked up. It's really damn like talk about a man who's just sucking everybody over. What a monster?

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approve of, uh and think should be the norm. Uh. If police officers dressed that way, traffic stops would be more fun. Just just a naked guy like walking around the side of the road and like a truck rolls by and a bunch of gravel gets like spun onto him and he's picking gravel at him. Love cops ego, and you know, because everyone knows what the cops packing, regardless of what kind of Gunn. He's got right. We know a better world anyway. Vote for me. My only

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