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Part Two: How The Rich Ate Christianity

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Robert is joined again by Dan and Jordan from knowledge fight to continue to discuss the plot to make Christianity capitalist.

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Oh yeah, I hate when you open the episode like that. I really do. I love it, Sophie. It makes me feel just missing shrieking. To be honest, No, I like an almost an almost sexual expression of satisfaction. That's how you start a podcast. So that's how you start a podcast. And to be almost sexual with me. My guests today, Dan and Jordan of Knowledge fight Dan and Jordan's on a scale how uncomfortable? Oh wow, Wow, you're just buying in excellent. I was doing macho and Randy seven, Yes

he was. I was doing straight up. That's what I sound like during sex. Yeah. That that's gonna be very polarizing among the audience. Uh, people who have opinions. People will have opinions. I'm not going to read those opinions from my own mental health. I don't do that very often. Less polarizing, though, the gracefulness with which Randy Macho Man says will drop an elbow off the top of rope.

That's something everyone can appreciate. UM On the next episode, will we'll we'll have me and the guests all slowly eat cereal in front of the mic, so we'll see what people hate more, the sex or the cereal cereal. You could have the name the Cereals. People might be constantly become the cereal that I'm eating this capa and crunch is this crunch show, Sophie, that the whole show. There's not enough money in the world to get but

there is enough cereal. We can do this. So you know part two, right, we should probably get back into the story. So by by February of ninety seven h five, Field has built this list of minister representatives. Right, that's what he calls the members of Spiritual Mobilization because he's he's it's specifically an organization for religious leaders. And he calls these kind of you know, you might call them

foot soldiers or whatnot. In his war to make Christianity capitalism, he calls them minister representatives, yeah, repristers, and in night he starts doing this in nineteen forty four, he has about four hundred minister representatives in forty four. By ninety seven, there's more than ten thousand of them. Within a m money behind him, he's able to get out his message

and keep Spiritual Mobilization together despite its meteoric rise. He finds great success in arguing against the Pagan statism of socialist politics rather than against a social safety net, and for the dignity of individual man as a child of God rather than against the responsibility of rich people to pay taxes. Clergy begin to flood five Fields, Los Angeles office.

His phone rings off the hook for weird like and it's usually people like when people call um, it's citizens who have like come across his organization somewhere and they're they're writing him because they want to get sent political tracts. Um. That's a big part of what spiritual mobilization does, is it? Since out these right wing zines and books from authors like Garrett Garrett UM and Garrett Garrett is g A R E. T is his first name and then his

last name is spelled the right way. Have you heard of this guy? I don't know. No, I have not. I've never heard of anyone being named Garrett twice decision obviously twice as many times is the wrong number of times? But Barbart is it a typo? Or is its spelled the first name spelled differently than the last name? It is? It is the first name spelled differently? Is he and peel bit? Actually kind of I kind of like the

different spellings. Yeah, the first name. The first name has one R, one T, the last name has two rs to two rs. To tease Garrett or is it like to Garrett? Yeah, I like it. You're gonna give him that. I have questions. He is an so he Garrett Garrett is like an Iron Rand type figure. Like he's a libertarian fiction Yes, I mean based as hell, so he writes. He writes some of the most insufferable sounding literary libertarian

fiction I've ever heard of. You can find all of his books today, hosted online for free by the miss Institute. If you if you want to read Garrett Garrett. Uh, he was big in the twenties and thirties. And if the summaries I'm reading or anything to judge by like it is some of the most insufferable shit ever. One of his books is called Satan's Bushel. And here's how the Micis Institute describes Satan's Bushell. What is Satan's Bushell?

It is the last bushel that the farmer puts on the market that breaks the price, that is, reduces it to the point that wheat farming is no longer profitable. The puzzle that afflicts the wheat farmers is that they sell their goods when the price is low and have no goods to sell when the price is high. Withholding goods from the market is one answer, But why should any farmer do that? What is the answer to this problem?

Working from this premise then, as implausa well as it may sound, but the central figure in this book is the price of wheat. It is the main source of drama. The settings are the wheat expit at the Chicago Exchange and the Kansas wheat fields. Yes, he wrote a book where the protagonist is the concept of wheat as a commodity. I fucking love how bored Satan has to be all the time, where he's like, listen, guys, we've got nothing going on today. I don't know. Let's funk with the

price of wheat. Yeah, there's no more relatable protagonist the price of wheat. The hero's journey of Wheat Wheat we initially rejects the call to adventure, but then accepts it after finding a mentor, and the resolution, of course is subsidies. Yes, it all works out. It's perfect. Um. It is also just weird. Of Darkness was my favorite book, very telling because Garrett. Garrett is huge. He's one of the most

popular off the authors that five Fields distributing. It's very telling of these guys ideology that like you hear, hey, we've gotten so good at farming wheat that it's it's basically free. And instead of being like, oh good, no one will ever not have bread again, the dream of human beings for thousands of years finally realized, it's oh

my god, that we won't make money. It's it's it's unfortunate the way that the system works, so that a lot of drama in the book hinges upon someone who's apparently poisoning all of the wheat as a favor to the farmers, like poisoning the wheat to kill it so that it will make wheat more valuable to help the farmers. Like this guy sounds like the name was mon Santo. This is crazy. This is the most amazing book I've ever heard of predicting programming, if I understand correctly, does

is the person who's poisoning the wheat heroic character? I think, so I have that kind. I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. I didn't read this book. Absolutely did not read this fucking book. Um. I read a summary of the book by the Masa's Institute, which, by the way, this is y'all will enjoy this. In its biography of Garrett Garrett, the Misas Institute notes that he was quote as noted for his critiques of the New Deal and US involvement in the Second World War. Now right, you hear that

m the only war for him being against is inherently suspicious. No, no, no, it's not that they're against World War two, is that they're against the concept. If you look against World War two, I had better see a Quaker somewhere in your biography or I am making some dire assumptions. You know, the Mesa Institute is the insufferable fox that run across Like they they've come up in some of our stuff before.

And yeah, one of the things I note, uh in particular, is like they're like they have a long argument on their website about why you don't have a positive obligation to feed your children. Like they're good ship. That's the good ship. That's the libertarian stuff I love. Right, they're fucking when you've got like Fred Coke arguing about the fact that people should be able to sell themselves into slavery and fucking yes, that's the good ship. If you can't,

then do you really own yourselves? Yeah, it's really funny too, Like it's it's shameful that you've got something as batshit wacko as that is, like slavery is good because otherwise you don't own yourself. And this guy decides to write a book about fucking wheat prices, like, come on, man, there's so many cooler places to take this. I mean,

what's trading places about? But orange prices? It's the same. No, No, it's the main character, right, I feel like I also there was a gorilla that's not Is this wheat book available on tape? I don't know about that, but it is in public domain. Dan, you could do a free audio book of the week Satan's Bookshel oh Man. That

is an MST three K movie waiting to happen. I had to note we're going on a bit of a tangent with Garrett Garrett, but it is important to get some some some texture as to like the kind of material that Spiritual Mobilization is putting out. And when I saw that Garrett Garrett had been an opponent of us,

involvement in the Second World War. I did a little bit more digging and I found an article from Garrett Garrett titled War has Lost its Pockets from the Saturday Evening Post in nineteen forty, where Garrett argues He argues a lot in this article. One of the things he says is that it wouldn't make sense for the Nazis to use forced labor because that's bad for business. Sure, Nazis that wouldn't use forced labor. That's not very efficient.

I'm gonna be I'm gonna be straight with you. Indisputable. Yeah, it's beautiful, nailed it. Get I've heard that same sort of like tone from libertarians about slavery in America as well, like that people wouldn't mistreat their slaves. That doesn't make economic sense. Yeah, okay, guys. Anyways, my favorite book of the Bible is Exodus. I don't know why. So Spiritual Mobilization sells this guy's books like hotcakes. Now flush with cash, Fivefield decides to draw in new ministers by making the

gospel of free enterprise profitable. In October of ninety seven, he holds a national sermon competition with the Perils to Freedom as a theme, and he offers five thousand dollars in prize money. More than twenty thousand ministers submit entries, which is fifteen percent of all clergymen in the nation. So this is now, This isn't just I sent a letter to a bunch of people. This is I have

made a connection. They are engaging directly with the and making propaganda of their own now, which is a really smart way to do this, right. Can I ask you a question, Yeah, has has part of that been like, because because everything that we're talking about now is purely economic and currently in the present day, all of that is tied in with a real blood thirst. So in this time period, was that separate? Was there still that undercurrent of like and you're to have to kill infidels

like that kind of thing, or yeah, that's there. I mean, these guys are very we'll talk. The Korean War comes into this a little bit um you know there there, this is this immediate post war period. There's not quite as much of that just because everyone's kind of tired of fighting for a little byone's already fought out, but we know several million died whatever. Once we start getting into these wars, and Korea in Vietnam. Yes, these guys get very pro killing the communists, and you know that

this is cool. This gives birth to the to the chunks of the conservative movement that are pro Rhodesia and all that. Yes, so Pugh and the n A M are so happy with this, this thing that Fifield carries out getting all these ministers to engage with this propaganda, that they double his annual budget. Pugh generally takes a

lead here in soliciting donations from his rich friends. He he sees this as a success, and he wants to like a crack has been made in this wall of leftism in in the clergy in America, and he wants to shoot as much fucking water into that crack as possible, try to expand it. Um. So he tells his fellow rich guy friends it is hot that spiritual mobilization should be at the top of the list for all their donations, citing the polls that he paid for that showed ministers

as the most influential molders of public opinion. But as this experiment rolled forward, there were some on the left who could see the shape of was starting to take form. I'm gonna quote now from Kevin Cruz's book One Nation

Under God, How Corporate America invented Christian America. Quote. In February, journalist Kerry McWilliams wrote in a cidic cover story on It for the Nation, with save Christianity and the save Western Capitalism chance becoming almost indistinguishable, A major battle for the minds of the clergy, particularly those of the Protestant persuasion, is now being waged in America, he began. For the most part, the battle lines are honestly drawn and represent

a sharp clash in ideologies. But now and then the reactionary side tries to fudge a bit by backing movements which mask their true character and real sponsors. Such a movement as Spiritual Mobilization. McWilliams explained to his readers the scope of its operations, note that it now had nine organizers working in high rent offices in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, and had distributed hundreds of thousands of pamphlets to prob by pro business authors for free, but

no one knew who was funding the operation. McWilliams warned there had only been vague statements from Fifield that non ministers who have a common stake in the America and Christian traditions cannot contribute service, and that it was only

natural that they give substance instead. And mc williams's withering account, Fifield came off as a charlatan who prostrated himself before the apostles of rugged individualism to secure his own fame and fortune, and in return prostituted himself for their needs. So and this is how it's framed at the time because they don't have access to like the letters and

stuff I've been reading. They don't know that this is all funded by the n A. M. Right, that's not super obvious to any to anyone writing it, but that he can tell from what Fifield saying that like there is some shady business interest in spiritual pobalization, like he's

speaking about it. I always love more than anything whenever people use adjectives that are thoroughly inadequate for the job of like you know, he's fudging things, like no, there's a multimillion dollar campaign behind a lie, Like this is not fudging things. He's not Like, oh it's not it's not fifty dollars, it's a hundred dollars. It's this motherfucker is killing everyone. Yeah, I mean obviously at the time

to like McWilliams doesn't have all that data. There's only so much you can say in an article without being sued. But you can see he's like he's he knows what's happening, he just doesn't have the proof of it, right, Like he's trying to like put that out as clearly as he can. Something's rotten in Denmark. And yeah, this scares the hell out of the n A M right that that like this guy is kind of onto them um

and that he's attacking fifield is like a charlatan. So they mobilize a bunch of rich guys, including the president of the Republic Steel Corporation, to send out mass mailers to other business owners and executives defending Fifield Um. And as a fun fact, the guy who sends out this mass letter is the Charles White, the president of Republic Steel. Charles White presided over the nineteen thirty seven Memorial Day massacre when ten Republic Steel union workers were gunned down

by policemen for striking. So that's the guy. He sends out a letter to a bunch of rich guys calling Fivefield one of my personal friends, to solicit donations for it's literally about to say republic steel sounds like a dystopian future for like the overarching And then the next thing you said, murdered ten people. And I'm like, well, you know what there are quote from this letter that

White writes defending Fivefield. Our company has supported this crusade generously for some years, and we believe in it deeply, the more so since I have read this irresponsible article and see how the opposition feels about spiritual mobilization. White then went on to ask the people you'd written this letter to, why don't you send a check at once?

And in short order, more than a hundred thousand dollars had been donated by business owners to spiritual mobilization And like a couple of days, Um, it's great, Like he's doing the whole. They're trying to cancel us, like the liberal media is trying to cancel us. You need to send us money very ahead of his time, you know, Trailblazer, just such a like you're getting money from people. If you get a hundred thousand dollars from people, it's people who do not give us shit about money, you know,

like in two days that's crazy. Yeah, and that's like a millionaire. Two that's like a couple of million bucks. Then yeah. So spiritual mobilization itself responded to this criticism in the nation, and that time honored tradition of smart ship heads. It got bigger and louder. It launched The Freedom Story, a fifteen minute radio program presented by Fifield,

and here's CRUs in Politico describing this. In the original scripts, Fifield made direct attacks on democratic programs at home, but his lawyer warned him they would lose the public service designation that gave them free air time if he were two plane spoken with partisan attacks. In Stay, you're gonna go down the Mike Lindell route. You gotta stop, you gotta stop. I can see the future. You gotta become Mark with Lindell. No, that's not even what he's worried about.

He's finder than becoming Mike Lindell. He doesn't want him to have to pay for this ad by it being right, so he advises instead that Fifield should basically, instead of don't talk about democratic policies in the US, that's not allowed you you'll get you know we'll have to pay for it then, But if you talk about foreign examples of the minister being socialism, then that's not political. Hey, why don't we own why don't we own Venezuela? Like,

I mean honestly, like look into your heart. Okay, So anything outside the United States not politics, not politics, can't be politicize. Not exactly. We we just talked about how nonpart is in the Crusades were good times. So since fifields nambackers had lost a lot of friends in me or had a lot of friends in media, it was child's play to ensure that this freedom story got free airtime in over five hundred stations. So this this thing again,

and they're like, your motherfucker's could pay for this. But you know, it also sounds better if it's not political, right, It doesn't sound like I'm a guy making a right wing like ad. If I'm just talking about the history and the dangers of creeping socialism to freedom in these other countries. You know, it's it's it's a smarter way

to do it. Um. So this is a big hit gets out to a lot of earbuds, and five fields next big move is a four day conference in nineteen fifty, with twenty five of the most popular ministers in the United States and an assortment of big business leaders, including Crane and Pew. A pair of economists, Friedrich von Hayek and Ludwig von mess were also present. Yeah, but they're great.

The Austrians are here. Stop y back in the fix in between writing articles about how you don't have to feed your kids and how what are you doing feeding your kids? You're wasting here yet for him, he sits up, Perhaps children should starve, and rounds of applause come from the minute. Steers and business leaders in the audience. Listen, when I when I went to and took my dog Jake to basic dog training, the dog trainer was very specific. She said, you have to work for your paycheck. And

now it makes perfect sense to me. People are dogs, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, Um, that's that's what that's That's a big part of what's happening at this conference. So Fifield describes the goal of this like Uh Symposium as to quote, defined the conflicts in this critical period of civilization and to establish freedom's answers to

these problems. Tentatively, the agenda will cover such subjects as the relationship of liberty to Christianity, equality and morality, competition, incorporation, and the application of true Christian principles to present day problems.

So this is a big hit. It gets the most popular preachers in the world in the country together with all of the richest people in the country and a bunch of libertarian economists, and they all start being buddies with each other, and they start like spreading their ideas around. And these ministers go back to their gigantic churches and

like start talking about some of the things they've encountered. Uh. Social Mobilization launches a magazine called Faith and Freedom, which was built as a place where ministers could write in and express their views freely, debating with one another over the issues of the day. But almost all of those debates where really just screeds against social welfare. Right, there's not like a left wing right wing debate. It's like

how much should we stop feeding people? Rum and And this is actually where we get into one of the precursors of the modern right wing. Like bugbear that Satanists are secretly behind socialism, I think this is the start of that. And I want to read a quote here.

This is from one of the ministers who wrote for Faith in Freedom and an essay he did called Pagan Origin of the Social Gospel um which in which he argues that pagan influenced strands of Christianity and he includes Unitarianism here, sure had led to a quote shift in faith from God to man, from eternity to time, from the individual to the group, from individual conversion to social coercion,

and from the church to the state. That like Pagan origin of the Social Gospel, that like the idea of a social welfare state in anyway, um is he's not calling it Satanist, but it's it's not Christian. It's fundamentally anti Christian, is don't I think it's a transition towards Satanism. It's God, then humans, then Satan's next. Yeah, yeah, totally. You know, I I feel I feel for the for these people, right because you used to be able to just call someone a witch and people would believe you.

But now you have to do this whole dog and pony show with all these lies. You have to do all this pagan ship. You can't just say people who like socialism or which people, but to be fair, they did do empirical tests about whether or not people were witches. Well they were heavy, yeah yeah, or or they were able to be crushed by rocks cultures like there were things. You would feed them and if they die, they're not a witch. But if they survived, they're a witch. It

works both ways. Get a job or have a giant rock tossed on you. I feel like this is very simple. So in nineteen fifty, the Republicans, you know, after this is after several years of an a M and five Field working together. In nineteen fifty the Republicans have a huge win at the midterm elections. Right, and this is taken by Pew and the others in an a M as evidence that what they're doing is working. Right Like this, this ship is paying big political dividends. More funds poured

into spiritual mobilization. Fivefield celebrated in a letter to the head of General Motors, writing quote, we are having quite a delusive letters from across the country indicating the feeling that spiritual mobilization has had some part in the awakening, which was evidenced by the elections. Of course, we are a little proud and very happy for whatever good we have been able to do in waking people up to

the peril of collectivism and the importance of freedom under God. Meaning, now that the Nazis have been gone for a little while, fascism can totally be popular. Let's back in back freedom under God because there is a tiny number of people owning everything, and that's like it's under God because that's what God wants, you know. And also definitely not paying taxes,

that's well for sure, God does not want you paying taxes. Yeah, having surfs if you have to pay taxes to help them when they work, yeah, I bet they have more than one that we did get there eventually. Do you have a positive responsibility to help people who are dying? Mysa says no, no, no, of course not. And in fact, you have a responsibility to maximize your own profit by

letting people die sometimes, because that's what. Yeah. So, now empowered and properly organized, Fivefield decides to lead his most ambitious charge ever. He's going to change the fourth of July forever. And this is the thing people don't often get. Didn't he used to be like a big, big thing like we didn't always It wasn't always like the hugest deal in the world the fourth of July. Um, it has become that in recent decades, and a big part of why it is what it is, especially on the right,

why it is like such an almost a holy day. Um, it is kind of a holy day to millions of Americans. That really starts in this period. But you know what's starting in this period right now? Good services. That's right, that's right, and it's never gonna stop. Baby. Ah, we're back, and I have just learned the news that Build a Bear Workshop launched an after dark series of erotic teddy bears. Yeah great, yeah, I uh, this is my whole world now. Um, so cancel our next tin podcast recordings. I have a

new thing to do. Yeah. Oh, they seem to mostly just be buildings. I wouldn't openly say that on the internet. Robert to that. What what I have a new thing to do talking about bears? Yeah? Absolutely? You know, Dan and Jordan, you guys can you guys can bounce. I got I gotta deal with this bear situation. That's fair. That's a fair bear situation. More a fair bear situation. Horny horny teddy bears. I want a teddy bear. That's ready to netflix and chill. We'll see this is this

is just society maintaining balance. The eminem's be called less sexy. Build bears have to get have to get more fable. Do you know what's crazy? The care bear that had a volva on its stomach got cut real quick. Yeah, it's weird. There's a there's Oh, now I'm in trouble. I mean that is that would basically just be a fleshlight that, you know, build a Bear could make some money with a fleshlight build a Bear. Hey, I think

builder Bear has already made a bit of money. Look, this is this is free cash we are leaving on the ground. We need a more fuckable teddy bear. Look, this has been the problem since time immemorial. The problem with this riff is that it hasn't gone long enough. And once again the furries have been on the cutting edge of a well they a sponsor. Yes, yeah, we are, we are. We are sponsored by the concept of having sex with anthropomorphized bears. Adam and dot com that that

is really the primary reason this podcast exists. Big fuck Bear, that's that's our sponsor. Sophie. Really stay in quiet here. So when we last left our actual episode. Uh, our our buddy, Mr Fifield has decided he's going to change the Fourth of July, and to explain what his plan is,

I'm gonna quote from Kevin Cruz again. To mark the hundred and seventy anniversary if the signing of the Declaration of Independence, they proposed for the week surrounding the Fourth of July a massive series of events devoted to the theme of freedom under God. To that end, in June one, the leaders of Spiritual Mobilization announced the formation of a new Committee to Proclaim Liberty the CPL to coordinate their

Fourth of July Freedom under God's celebrations. Despite its apparent spiritual emphasis, the true goal of the committee was advancing political conservatisms. It's two most prominent members had been brought low by Democratic administrations. Hoover driven from the White House two decades earlier by Franklin Roosevelt from the driven from the right, stones and chains and whims kept Pennsylvania. You want to guess who who Hoover's partner was in this?

Who are you gonna put up next to Herbert Hoover in this? Douglas MacArthur, Yeah, baby, because he had just gotten fired by Harry Truman for wanting to nuke all of China in Russia basically during the war, he was like, why don't we start a nuclear war that kills tens of millions of people in order to win in Korea? And Truman was like, oh God, you're out of your mind. You should not be in charge of fighting men anymore. And then MacArthur said, what about freedom? Yeah, and that's

what he spends the rest of his life doing. In his defense, at the time, the military was just firing nuclear bombs into Arizona and forcing troops to walk through it in case it gave We look, we should at least knuke the enemy as much as we're knuking ourselves. Right, absolutely, that's just fair. That's Doug MacArthur's attitude. So he had gotten fired two months ago when he gets put in this committee, right like, he has just gotten out of

the Korean War business. Um So he immediately goes into let's make Christianity capitalism by subverting the fourth of July to our own purposes. Um So, these guys get joined by a bunch of different legal like conservative right wing media figures, entertainment industry figures who are like very right wing. Bing Crosby is a member of this committee, right, Bingo, James O'Keefe. Um, no, but ci so every time I've

watched White Christmas, I've supported a fucking Nazi. Goddamnit. Little I mean, yeah, old Blue Eyes wasn't a good man. Can't imagine you not just assuming that Cecil is on the committee to proclaim liberty. Yeah, but of course he is. Walt Disney is on the committee to proclaim that bing Crosby was a Nazi. Yeah, he's been pretty far right. And of course our buddy Ronald Reagan is on the committee. And then you've got a bunch of big business types.

There's j. Howard Pugh obviously, Harvey Firestone, Conrad Hilton, James Craft, Harvey Firesteam, No Firestone, very different, very different. I was living in Independence day. I was like, oh my god, Man Craft, Henry Us, Fred Maytag and J. C. Penney, Um, all of these guys are are are part of the committee, are hanging out with Bingo, you know, trying to do

a kill democracy. Every time you learn the history of where you shop, if it's been around for longer than fifty years, you're like, why why aren't I burning this down right now? Why aren't I just lighting it on fire? Question, everyone briefly asked. And there's zero reason. There's zero reason for a hobby lobby hobby lobby to still standing, like zero reason they got a house those stolen artifacts, that

is true. And now we're back to Indiana Jones. So you wouldn't think a group of luminaries and brands with that kind of star power. You got all the big bing Crosby and Walt Disney together finally with with Douglas MacArthur. It is a dream team of dudes who sucked um, But you wouldn't think like with that kind of they're also dudes who are pretty good at being famous. You wouldn't think they would have needed to advertise for this

sort of thing, but by god they do. Disney, Firestone, all of these big corporate like Motherfucker's take out a series of full page newspaper ads advertising all these events around the fourth of July, this like week of right wing you know, uh, speeches and radio programs and whatnot. Um. Each of these full page ads focuses primarily on the preamble to the Declaration of Independence. A lot of them

are just the preamble being printed. Now, you might wonder, well, that doesn't sound super right wing, right, that's just like a historical thing about the United States printing. There's nothing particularly right wing about printing the Declaration of It. No, No, you have to read it for it not to be right wing. If you print it and you don't read it, it's a little I'm saying, Yeah, that's that is essentially what they're doing because they want people to read the preamble.

They don't want people to read the Declaration of Independence. If you read the Declaration of Independence, a lot of it is very specific critiques about shortcomings of the British government. Right they are their problem is a lack of good government there as as you might guess by the fact

that they made a government. They're not anti government. Um. And again evidence of this is that when the revolution was one, a lot of people who had signed that declaration went on to crush a libertarian uprising in their own country with cannons, you know, like they were not. But I mean, you know, reasonably speaking, only two people have actually read the declaration, and that's King George and Nick Cage, and those are the only two to be fair. Nicolas Cage read at the back of it. He did,

he did not, not even the front of it. Yeah. So, quoteing just the preamble of the Declaration of Independence allows these guys to turn the declaration from what it is, which is a list of political grievances rooted in a specific place in time, and the solution of those grievances was a kind of government. It allows them to ignore that and just turned through the using only the preamble,

turned the Declaration into a manifesto of Christian libertarianism. Were the only focus is in the Founding Fathers wanting to remove government. Right, That's not the declaration. Isn't the Founding Fathers saying we don't want to have government because free enterprise is best. It's them saying this government is ship and we want to do a better job. Right, Um, you don't want that thought to go into people's head.

In his book One Nation Under God, Cruise quotes one version of this ad paid for by a by the San Diego Gas and Electric Company. It told its readers, quote, these words are the stones upon which man built history's greatest work. The United States of America, remember them well, and the words of the preamble were accompanied by helpful analysis by the good people at the Committee to Preserve Liberty. All men are created equal. That means you are as important in the eyes of God as any man brought

into this world. You are made in His image and likeness. There is no superior man anyway. All right, so we're anywhere the period. Fine, Fine, we're all gonna go home, end of show. That guy was great. Let's get out of here. They are endowed by their creator with certain and alienable rights. Here's your birthright. Theed them to live, work, worship,

and vote as you choose. These are rights no government on earth may take from you, except for the government established by this declaration, which didn't let most people vote. But like whatever, more rights than those that to secure these rights. Governments are instituted among men. Here is the reason for and the purpose of government. Government is but a servant, not a master, not a giver of anything.

Right now, we get into the right wing propaganda um deriving their just powers from the consent of the government. In America, the government it may assume only the powers you allow it to have. It may assume no others. This is a subtle piece of propaganda, though this is very smart. What they are doing here is re contextualizing and repurposing history into something very different than what it was UM in order to inculcate a specific political ideology

in the population UM. And this works pretty fucking good. If you want to talk about how successful replacing the real get the world today, what are you fucking talking about? All we need evidence? I am. Do you know how obvious it is you use the word inculcate? I did um? I I want to quote to talk about like how successful specifically that this word is. Both of us have podcasts.

Both of us have podcasts. Yeah. But also it's interesting to me that the preamble remains a really common piece of right wing propaganda in a lot of ship that's been happening very recently. I'm gonna quote from Jacqueline Keeler's book Standoff, which is about the Bundy occupation of the

Malhair Wildlife Refuge. Quote. On January nineteen, Ryan Payne, a mal Heir occupier and founder of Operation Mutual Aid, a militia coalition based in Montana, read the preamble of the declaration of independence at a community meeting held at the refuge. Political instruction in the philosophical beliefs that brought anti government activists together and armed rebellion against the fence was common at both the refuge and during Clive and Bundy standoff

and Bunkerville, Nevada two years earlier. And that's this is interesting because it's not just the preamble. A lot of these militiamen carry pocket constitutions, right. That is a huge thing among chunks of the libertarian right. Um. And the specific pocket constitutions that are everyone at fucking malhair has are produced by the National Center for Constitutional Studies, which

was founded by a Mormon elder named w Cleon Skousen. Yeah, baby, scousands in the Housen h was a founder of the John Birch Society, who are directly talking with five Field and with n a M. They are working with n a M right now. Welch is a member like Yeah, Scousen got sort of yet to remove himself from the Birch Society because he was too extremes. This is the

guy who was too shitty for the worst people ever. Yeah. Um. But it is important to note that Scausen is very much copying Fifield and his organization in handing out these

pocket constitutions. He this is where this idea comes from, that we can repurpose pieces of American history for this specific end without like like that that's um like a great thing for us is going to be taking these historical documents, adding our own context to them, adding essays to them, explaining them in a way that makes our ideology seem like the only possible American thing. That starts here with the Committee to Preserve Liberty and their effort

to re contextualize the Fourth of July. UM, and obviously we've talked about it has been a tremendously successful thing. So basically what you're saying is that we need a fucking time machine. I look, if I had a time machine, Uh, I would I would? I would get up to some ship. Yeah. Yeah, there'd be a lot of folks just missing. Boy howdy um starting. No, that's not a good joke to tell.

Back to the Fourth of July. In the lead up to the day itself, Reverend Fifield gave a big radio service wherein he introduced the people of the United States to the Committee to Proclaim Liberty. He told them its purpose was to quote revive a custom long forgotten in America spiritual emphasis. On the fourth of July, they held another big essay contest, soliciting sermons on the theme Freedom

under God. Fifield encouraged ministers to read the sermons they wrote to their own congregations on independent Sunday, July one. Now I want to hone in on this a bit because it's brilliant. Earlier, Pew had criticized five Field for not directly controlling what ministers wrote and said in their sermons. But data had told me at am that that handing out all right, that's just a sad criticism. It's like, hey, listen, you're not controlling what everyone's saying. You get your pastors

on a hip. Yeah. But at the same time, while like p was frustrated by this in a MS, data shows that the pre written sermons and stuff that like that they're handing out don't work. They sound too much. Yeah. So Fiefield gets the brothers are right, they're man was found exactly. Yeah, Fiefield gets seventeen thousand ministers to write their own sermons on a theme that he's chosen. Um

and like ties that to the fourth of July. Right, has all of the all of these ministers, thousands of them around the country, giving variations of the same speech on the thing he's picked all the July. Yeah, that will put it in your own words kind of, Yeah, exactly, that's how you copy. Well, it's like, yeah, it's like a high school essay context. Yeah, it's like the winner gets to go to fucking d C. Yeah, gets to

help overthrow democracy and institute an oligarchic dictatorship. Yeah. I mean you put it like that's a bad thing, but that is an accomplishment. It is an accomplishment. Look, I mean you got to get him taken anything from these dudes. They're good at what they're doing. So I'm gonna quote next from Kevin Cruz again. These sermons were amplified by a program broadcast that same evening over CBSS National Radio Network.

Cecil Bata Mill worked with his old friend Fifield to plan the production, giving it a professional tone and attracting an impressive array of Hollywood stars. Jimmy Stewart served as master of ceremonies, while Bing Crosby and Glorious Swanson offered short messages of their own. The preamble to the declaration was led by Lionel Barrymore, who had gonna be Mickey Mouse. This is this is what happens when you make a banker the protagonist of one of the most famous movies

of all time. That's entirely that's all. I know. You've got very good points about all of these people. I mean, but I'm gonna blame Jimmy Stewart alone. It's it's it's him, not just a banker, but a banker who, to his credit, bombed, flew a bunch of bombing missions over Jermy and World War two, and then, to less of his credit, was an active general during the Korean War of the Air Force. Don't don't get me started on Mickey's history. And Mickey

Mouse has killed a lot of people. But you know what, Mickey doesn't get up in the sky to do it. Mickey Mickey uses a knife. That's true. Um, yeah, so Lionel Barrymore, Drew Barrymore is either father or grandfather I forget right now, but stop it. Yeah, ten people alive.

I'm sick of this spot about it. He poses to like help advertise this event where he's, you know, all these famous people are giving speeches and he's reading the pre embl He poses holding a giant quill and looking at a piece apartment a parchment with the words freedom under God will save our country. Again, this is we don't think about what under God means so much, but like this is a very specific political line because freedom under God, they have made mean a very specific thing.

Right that you have the freedom to be poor. That's what it means freedom under God to these guys is you have the freedom to be poor, and you're not free if there aren't poor people. That's it sounds like you are not thankful for your freedom. Sir. Yeah, I mean yeah, that's that's that's where all this get started. So the broadcast featured choral performances of the America as well as heritage, an epic poem composed by the former leader of the US Chamber of Congress, General Matthew Ridgeway.

Yeah whites are great. Yeah, whites are great. Everybody knows it's fun. The guy who takes over commanding American forces in Korea. Uh, Lionel Barrymore's great uncle to Drew Barrymore. Thank you, Sophie. Uh somewhere in there, um so, Matthew Ridgeway, who's the commander of American forces in Korea, the guy who replaces uh fucking famous right wing ship head Douglas MacArthur. Um, he's also a right wing ship head. And he gives a keynote address from Tokyo as part of this like

big fucking Fourth of July brew haha. And he tells America that the Founding Fathers were motivated to do what they did by their Christianity. Um, you know, don't read Thomas Paine in the whole book he wrote about how he doesn't like Christianity. They did it all for Jesus. You know, that was the genesis of America. So this is the kind of propaganda that sticks in people's hearts and souls and it becomes central to their being the genius here. And this is where Pew and the n

a M come into It. Was that wrangling beloved celebrities like Jimmy Stewart and Bing Crosby Like that's they're They're like, Fifield doesn't have that kind of power on his own, but the n a M does. They've got all these

fucking in roads everywhere. And this, this whole gigantic event solidifies the Fourth of July as the most Sacred Day in the right wing religious calendar right Um and as a site benefit to the corporations who sponsored the show, the Christian libertarian ideology FI Field five Field expands upon over the airwaves also gets to hit your ride into people's souls. It becomes part of the Fourth of July and part of the celebration of the Fourth of July, and part of the lexicon we used to talk about.

Freedom gets infected with this thing that he's invented. One of the things that I absolutely despise most more than anything else, is finding out some horrific tradition is only like like my dad could have not dealt with it, you know, like like every time I go to a baseball game and there's a fly by by ship, I'm like, the war's over, man, Like I want to start a war. Like it's that kind of fury at like we're past this, man, Why we still? Why are we doing this? Why are

we doing this? We do this for a long time. The information that you have just provided Jordan will make it so he can't watch the hot dog eating contest? Will you ever watch that hot dog eating contest? I will watch? Yeah, I mean I've never watched one and never will again, but certainly extra not now. And you can tell Jamie Loft as I said that, Yeah, you better fucking do it. Yeah, anyways, I will. So the celebrations all of this ship we've talked about is the

days leading up to the fourth of July. Um. On the fourth itself, the Committee to Proclaim Liberty coordinates Americans in nearly every state to all ring their church bells simultaneously for ten minutes. I don't like that. I don't like No, that's great, it's great. In Los Angeles, the city government uses the air raid sirens like to do this, like they joined in with l A's air raids. This is the first time Los Angeles air raid sirens are used. Um scare people who didn't know. Yeah, why what did

you do this? There's a cold bar on what we are fighting in Korea. Everyone has nukes now, um one. That's one of the That's one of the things that is like changed so much from growing up in small town Middle America. Is like, when I was young, a large group of people chanting the same thing was good. Now that we're where we are, if a large group of people chant the same thing, I'm running in the opposite direction. I don't care if it's USA or like

fucking Sylvan Esso is great. I'm out of here because there's Nazis there. Um. Sophie also just muted me for a second. That's when everyone I knows she's trying to steal my my my voice, and my free speech. I'm being canceled by the radical left. So uh one if so. The fucking Los Angeles uses their air raid sirens to celebrate the Fourth of July, and a newspaper writer describes it as in the most fascist line I have ever heard in a newspaper, A scream as wild and proud

as that of the American Eagle. Yeah, you love to hear it, Daniel, Can we get an air raid sirens so everyone can hear a scream as loud and proud as the American Eagle? I was a good air raid siren, not Daniel, Chris, sorry, beautiful Chris. Just so, the whole thing was a big hit. The Committee to Proclaim Liberty organizers wrote in a later analysis that quote the very words freedom under God have added to the vocabulary of

freedom a new term. It is a significant phrase to people who know that everybody from Stalin on down is paying lip service to freedom until its root meeting is no longer a parent. The term freedom under God provides a means of identifying and separating conditions which indicate pseudo

freedom or actual slavery from those of true freedom. So if you think freedom is not having to worry about going broke because you can't pay for healthcare, or if you think freedom is not starving to death, you're a slave, that's slavery. That's a really good point that I hadn't thought of it in that way before, but since you just said it, I'm convinced. Yeah, yess, I'm going to go on to vote for Ronald Reagan in a couple

of days. It's it's really weird. It's really weird how you convinced me of a point that you were in opposition to. So things start to move very quickly after this point. This is a huge hit. So in nineteen fifty three, the US has its first ever National Prayer Breakfast. Um, we can talk a lot about the family here, but you know what, the theme of the first Prayer Breakfast is contest almost basic government under God. There's that term under God again. In nineteen fifty four, the Pledge of

Allegiance has the words under God added to it. Congress adds in God we Trust to our stamps in nineteen fifty four and to paper money in nineteen fifty five. In nineteen fifty six, in God we Trust becomes the first official motto of the United States. All of this happens right after this Fourth July events. Fairly, I know,

it's really not fair. That's fucked up. Like if if my dad didn't have to say under God, I should retroactively not have to have said it when I said the president, And if you and if someone suggests that you shouldn't have to say your dad's gonna be pissed. You know who else is going to be will be furious the hot dog you didn't contest people. Oh yeah,

but they're always angry. No, who's gonna be piste is the products and services that support this podcast because they're such good deals that ley're losing money on every sale. You know, they're really because of the deals that we're giving you. It's really hurting them. So they don't they do have that freedom, they have that freedom to be poor, you know. Ah, and we're back. We are you and I me us all here together talking. I just want to say now that now that we're back, you're doing

a great job. Thank you, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Jordan, thank you. I'm sorry for all the mean things I said about you all fair to your face. That's that's that's okay. I cried through it. Sophie says most of stuff to me every morning. That's how I wake up every And also, also, I'd like to apologize that I kept telling you that Hoover won Pennsylvania during the you you did say that about a hundred and thirty times when Jordan was just cursing at me in an unbroken stream.

I don't know what came over me, but yeah, it's good stuff. We'll just make that be the ad break next time. So, Reverend James Fifield has accomplished something amazing here right like under God is fucking everywhere, and now we all know the horrible, fucked up ideological reasons behind those words. In his write up on this whole fucking thing, Ecker Toy Junior notes quote many of Fifield's letters, both to Pew and Crane, ended with the request for funding.

Fifield continuously presented himself as selfless and living a simple life, even though both his church and his Spiritual Mobilization were perpetually in a state of need. As Fifield asked for donations and monetary interventions to save himself financially, he and his staff directed, very few funds are outreach initiatives to the poor. They are spending it. Also were very We're very we're the tip of the spear. I just want to let you, but we need your money to continue

fighting the good, fights, pioneering it. Yeah. Yeah, but he's just talking directly to rich guys now. Toy quotes from a letter an employee of Spiritual Mobilization sent to Crane of the n A. M. And nineteen fifty three quote. Basic to your thought in this area is the concept

of vast majorities who cannot take care of themselves. They're too foolish, too week two gullible, You and a few others who really care feel the need to scurry around and get government to force somebody else to do something for these poor folk. Tolstoy made an observation that bears directly on your little crusade. He said, people will do everything for the poor except get off their backs. This is the job for the government and libertarian thought to

destroy parasitism by pulling people off their victims back. For this, we need a strong government, strong enough to do the job so you might do good stuff that you might that incoherent like we need the government. Yea, sir, sir, one more time. What it's very funny. It's also funny because Fifield himself is absolutely a parasite on the rich. Like he's just sucking money away from them and they get a lot for it early on, um, but it starts it doesn't work as well after this big Fourth

of July thing that's kind of like his his high point. Yeah, fifields high. He did his part. He did his part, and it's not necessary after that. That's exactly right. Oh my god, you are really getting into a tribe called quests, aren't you sure? Come on now, come on, I didn't catch that. Am I a monster? Am I a bad? It just wasn't a good joke. I'm glad you said it, Dan fair point being a hero once again. I have the freedom of expression. Well, and we you also have

the freedom to go broke when you get cancer. We have glorious freedom here, all of us, Um. So the Reverend Fifield. One of the funny things about him is that for all his left of capitalism and ship um, every time he tries to do with capitalism, he's terrible at it. He he launches a television show based on his you know, ramblings that does not do well. People

do not like the referend five field hour um. But um no that he doesn't try doing that, but he does, like he has like this land Deally Trade's like a couple of different business deals that all fall through that he uses the money his foundations getting from rich guys to try to fund right um. And they start to get angry because they're like, well, he's just using our money to try to get rich himself and he's bad

at it. And that's the real unforgivable. Two rich guys, He's gonna say, you do not have the freedom to be bad at getting rich. You can you can take our money and get rich. You cannot take our money and not get rich. Now, the good news is that spiritual mobilization had already done the one thing that it had meant to do, which is kick open the doors of religious politicization and tie Christianity to the free market

and the hearts of millions of Americans. Just a few years after that famous Fourth of July, his work had gone so far beyond him that he had been marginalized. His final straw with the Pew Brothers was a propaganda film, which they considered weak. In nineteen fifty seven, five Field quit Spiritual Mobilization altogether, and it drifted along on fumes for a few years before it died out. The cause

it had birthed, however, sailed right ahead. Pew and Crane found a new minister to invest in, one who was much better with money. Do you want to guess what this guy's name was? Uh? Yeah, not Joe, Like, it's not quite I do love Marjoe, kind of love margin because he's very charming. Now it's Billy Graham, Yes, of course, Billy Graham. Baby. So we could have just gone back in time and just slapped that guy in the face and it would all been fine, and we'd have to

go back further. There's actually three boats. If I could go back in time with a chain gun, there's three boats I'm taken care of. You know that sounds like that sounds like a Owen Brothers movie. Yeah, three boats sunk in the middle of the ocean by a time traveler with a gatling gun. Yeah, um so yeah. Billy Graham, Um Pew and Crane decided to back him next after they kind of abandoned Fifield. You know, he has to leave spiritual mobilization. YadA, YadA. Had a very sad story

for the asshole. Here's Eckert Toy again. The mission was to spread the free market conservative message through religion had only just begun, and in many ways Graham further nuanced its delivery. As Graham himself put it to J. Howard Pugh, God has given me the ear of millions. He has given to you large sums of money. It seems to me that if we can put these two gifts of God together, we could reach the world with a message of Christ. Billy Graham much smarter guy. As a business proposition,

supporting Graham was a win win. Graham's ministry would flourish, business interests would be advanced by a key opinion shape, and unlike Fifield, Graham would not continually pest your Pew about his dial or dire financial situation and the need for more funds. Graham was a public figure who ingratiated himself into the Paul Takes of America, promoting political involvement at his revival meetings. He had preached from the steps of the US Capital in nineteen fifty two, and he

also had a close relationship with President Eisenhower. So yes, the fame famous communist agent Eisenhower be like communism. Well, and that's also too because the very early on n A. M. There's a lot of ties with the John Birch Society. But that's not the best way to get your message out to a lot of people. Billy Graham's a much cuddlier figure. He's got a lot more people are gonna like Billy Graham than than fucking Welch, you know well, and his steaks are more real to most people, like

your eternal souls and bones he's got sure. Yeah. Yeah. The first big collaboration between you and Graham was a little publication. You might have heard about, Jordan, you might you might know about this Christianity today, Oh I've heard of Yeah, yeah, that's this is how it starts. And my family was more focused on the family by the Dobsons,

but christian it's it's a different magazine now. But It was originally number one, It was originally just for ministers, and it was founded by Graham and Pew to solidify ties between the right wing and organized Christianity. Pew explained, quote, Christianity today is a magazine conservative and its theology and

beamed directly to the ministerial mind mind. Those of us who have given years of study to this problem realized that it is just as important to have conservatism and theology as it is to have conservatism and economics and sociology if America is to remain great. And that was true. It was they were. They just nailed it. You know. Sometimes sometimes a lot of people are like, ah, they're bad people. But I'm telling you they nailed it. And

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about Ministers only dot Com, their dating website that they had underneath it, that really nailed it. Yeah, Minister Ministers dot Com and Priest Fuck, which was its slightly slightly trashy or cousin. That was their equivalent of the then Bear Workshop, the Catholic funka Bear Workshop. We don't need to get into that. That's going to get unsettling quickly. So from the beginning, both Graham and especially Pew, took pains to ensure they

could not be tied too closely to the magazine. They didn't want it to be seen as an overtly political look, even though it was. Despite claiming a hands off attitude, Peugh constantly complained about the editorial direction chosen by the man they picked to run the magazine, dr Bell. In ninety eight, Pew hired the Opinion Research Bureau to conduct one of the first Pew surveys, although it was not yet called a Pew Survey, carried out on the readers

of Christianity Today. It found that nearly thirty percent of ministers still described themselves as something besides fundamentalist or conservatives. Fourteen percent even called themselves liberal. Now, this might be due to the fact that Christianity Today was blatant right wing propaganda, so only a few progressive to Reddit. Billy Graham probably knew this, but he was savvy enough to see how this data could be used to peer pressure more ministers into moving right. He wrote, I believe this

poll should be widely publicized. So many of our ministers are liberal only because they think it's the popular thing to be. If they could understand that the vast majority of American clergy are conservative, it could swing hundreds of others over to the conservative position. It would also probably have a great impact on our seminaries if properly distributed. This isn't the point, but again, your character fell apart.

I know, I'm not I'm starting, but it just went just I mean, I just kept thinking, like what if the DARE program was more oriented around Christian nationalism, Like if all of these pastors had peer pressured each other into doing drugs, I feel like we would have all had a little bit in an incredible place as a country is being discovered around this time around back, Christianity today is literally just sheets of acid inside of a magazine. UM.

And obviously today it is a different thing. In fact, Christianity today is such a centrist magazine now that Donald Trump called it far left. UM. Obviously getting good data overall, and where priests, ministers, and reverends are politically as complicated, it's not an easy group to just certifice, like survey

all of them. But it's worth noting that while roughly eighteen percent of Americans are white Evangelical Protestants, they make more up more than forty three percent of what Yes Pew Research calls staunch conservatives and thirty nine percent of so called mainstream Republicans. So there's a debate to be had as to like whether or not it's broadened or narrowed the electoral kind of possibilities of conservatives in America.

But as a result of everything we've talked about this week, the center of the of organized conservatism in the US are white evangelical Protestants, the most reliable voting block, the most organized one. And it all started here. Good time refuse rewrite a story and make it less sad, make it fun. Um Yeah, yeah, if I get a time machine, I can do the fun version of this story. That's you know that that makes sense. I mean it is.

There's a lot of people not wanting to. Uh. I just I just hate that when stuff isn't old enough. It's kind of a period. Yeah. I can't. I can't like walk over to my grandfather and be like, hey, you remember when things weren't ship Like that's not fair, Like I should have to go way further back in time. This thing seems so trenched. Yeah, but it's not like from the heartening thing about that is is because it's

not that old. We could we could do different stuff, like we could make it be different as a country. We had at a certain point of time, Christianity wasn't that old, and now it's fucking old, you know what I mean. But as Robert's also, what could happen Robert to your point though, to like, you know, if your story has taught me anything. If we're going to shift this back, we need billionaires and we need charismatic preachers. Those are things that I don't think we have access to.

I will accept being both at any time, as long as everybody else takes care of I know. George Soros listens to the podcast. George, Buddy, we got an idea. We're gonna we're gonna recontextualize what what holiday can we take over day? Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna We're gonna your Riper Day is not our take over. We're gonna make Memorial Day about I was gonna say, well, that's what these guys who do We're gonna Okay, sorry, I

thought that was President saying. I thought we were branching out if we made Memorial Day the center of celebration. Breaking into the House of the Alex Asar the former Health and Human Services secretary, and taking all the ill gotten gains he made from jacking up the price of insulin. That could be the new the memorial to the dead of the insulin crisis. All we need is a couple hundred million dollars to really get this going, and we can do a deep fake of Bing Crosby and uh

and Jimmy Stewart, we can recontext. Listen, Jimmy, both of us were kind of milk toast before you say Bing Crosby a man. I don't see why we shouldn't go to Aleck's alex He's os house and and take his and take his cars and his nice golden things. I'm James Stewart. Yeah, that was a character than I do my best there. I can't. I can't well, I'm Bing Crosby, and I think you should go to alex as Our's

house and take his car. Every every time I take about doing a car, every time I think about doing a Bing Crosby, it transfers in to Yogi Bear instantaneously, just that constant like hey, we're gonna hey booboo. Like it's so fast. There's not a lot of the Sackler family toad into the middle of the ocean on a barge basket. Hey, boo boo, we gotta take down the state. Yeah, Bing Crosby and fucking uh the bear. Goddamn it, I spaced on the name. I ruined the joke. Now it's over. Well,

now you're great. You guys got any pluggables to plug? I just you know, we have our our podcast to Knowledge Fight dot com. Where where that lives? Yeah, I just want to aggressively promote my book on this one. It's called the Quiet Part Loud. You can download it for free at the Quiet Part anything you want, just read it or don't. I really just put it out there and it was great. Anyways, it's the Quiet Part Loud dot Com. It's a passive aggressive club. Just want

to aggressively promote my book. There you go and see. That's how you do it. That's how you plug your learning. I'm trying. You're learning. Soon you'll be as good a pitchman as the reincarnated digital ghosts of Jimmy Stewart and Bing Crossby. I'm just looking for them level of cells. Yeah, which, by the way, soon coming soon. Lionel Barrymore comes back and tell people to rob Bank of America locations. Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse and fighting in the mountains to make a

Zapatista like colony in Appalachia. I'll be back over the war is fish. Um. We could do it, everybody, we could do it. All we need is a couple hundred million dollars. So now I'm now, I'm in my head reading of a war letters in Mickey Mouse's voice, and the caravan hanging in. An addition to the government troops, ri sl my love for you, burn says every night. All right, well that should get us some fun fan art. Okay, that's the episode. Have a good week, everybody,

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