Part Two: H.L. Hunt: The First Elon Musk

fleecing all of his friends at poker. He is going to try to make something of himself. So by the start of nineteen twelve, our boy, Haroldson Lafayette Hunt, had opened his very own cotton plantation. Again, this is probably inspired by the fact that his father had kind of talked endlessly about how beautiful the South was and how

great cotton farming was. Unfortunately, he's going to learn a lesson, which is that cotton farming sucks ass, and it's really hard to like get rich doing unless you own a bunch of people who you can make work for you for free.

It's just a very hard lifestyle. And this is where the fact that he starts, he starts farming and immediately learns, oh shit, it's really hard to make money cotton farming. This is going to show evidence of one of his most valuable traits, right, which is that he is not dissuaded by failure. A couple of times in his life he's gonna lose everything, like three different times he loses everything and like makes it back, you know, to ultimately

get crazy rich. And if I were writing a linked in post to appeal to a bunch of wannabe founders and ceo boot liquors, itight in there, right, Hunt you know, bankrupted himself three times and he you know, never let it. Never never let it, you know, convince him to stop. He never backed down. He just grut right back on the horse and made the money up again. You know, President right, right. It is true that like confidence in the face of failure is important, you're certainly not going

to make it as an entrepreneur unless you can't. You can handle some failure. But it's a separate characteristic of Hunts that's going to contribute a lot more to his future's success than the fact that he's fine with failure. The thing that actually keeps him going through all these failures, and particularly through the failure of his cotton business, is that he also owns a casino. Right, that's all they want to do with it. Then the attitude, I mean

casino is putting it a little far. It's not like a full on Vegas casino. Obviously those don't exist yet. But he owns a gambling din right. An article that Anito Davis wrote for EBSCO notes that Hunt opens a gambling parlor right alongside his cotton plantation. He starts them both basically at the same time, and while the plantation doesn't really work out financially, the gambling. Din is a good investor, right.

this new business. Well, it's because he keeps gambling, and whenever he runs out of money, he just gambles until he makes more money because he's like it's a superpower for him. Like he just as far as I can tell, anytime the man sits down at a table, he walks away with money, right, And if you have that, it's like fucking Lieutenant Commander Data, right, Like he's just gonna win when he sits down to play cards. So every time he goes bankrupt, he gets his money back because

he's like a gambling freak. Right. In nineteen fourteen, he marries Lyda Bunker, and the newlyweds get to work, having the first of what will ultimately be six children. Their first child is a girl, Margaret. They have her in nineteen fifteen, and two years later they have their first boy, who he names Haroldson Lafayette Hunt. Technically he's the third right. Lida calls him Hassie. She also calls her husband Hassie.

So it's kind of confusing in the book at this point because you'll hear the tow Sill will refer to both of them as Hassie. I'm only going to call his son Hassie. When I say Hassie, I'm talking about our Harold Hunt, the future richest man, the world's kid. Now he is going to cheat constantly on his wife. He is cheating on Lida as early as nineteen seventeen, probably earlier than that, but at least by that point,

and he is not subtle about it. So Lda has to deal with hearing endlessly about like, oh, your husband sure has an eye for the ladies, huh, which she does not like, does not make her feel good. His tell is like the way that she can tell he's cheating on her is he'll point out a lady in town to be like, you know, she's a really good person and that means lighta is like, okay, so he's

sucking her or he's going to try to fuck her. Right, sometimes it just means that he's at the house or somebody right right right.

Like his first two kids especially are going to really hate him for the fact that he is just he makes their mother miserable. He treats her so badly. I really I cannot exaggerate what a bad husband he is. Hunt suffers ups and downs over the first three years he spends farming, but World War done, World War one

finally does. His cotton plantation in the cotton market collapses kind of not long after the outbreak of war, and then in nineteen seventeen, his farm gets flooded out, and just kind of the mix of these two factors together, he can't keep it going anymore. He has to give up somehow. He goes from this from his you know, going bankrupt and his farm failing in nineteen seventeen to investing in his first oil well in nineteen twenty one. And there's a little bit of mystery as to how

he gets his first oil well. Here's how that pro oil and gas industry website Oklahoma Minerals describes this part of his career. So this is like the this is like the this is the approved propaganda line that Hunt wanted people to believe. With a borrowed fifty dollars, he began trading oil leases, employing a strategy of buying and selling that almost simultaneously to profit without significant capital investment. This approach allowed him to amass considerable wealth in a

short period. Right, So basically he's just doing the kind of trading people do on computers now, but with his super smart brain, and he doesn't need much money. It's just a borrowed fifty dollars, you know. He's able to turn that gradually into enough of a fortune to start buying his own oil fields. That's not quite accurate. That is, like, it accurately describes one of his strategies, which is that once he gets going, after he has this first successful

oil field, he'll start buying and selling leases. And he is doing this thing where he's like doing it in such a way that he doesn't have to actually put much money down, right, because he's just kind of switching shuffling assets around. It's a little bit of like a show game type deal. But this does leave out something important about how he got his first oil well, and to describe that, I'm going to go back to his

FBI report. From the FBI quote, he was reportedly a professional gambler who won an oil lease in a card game and is alleged to have operated prostitution activities in Arkansas. So this is something you'll find first off, it's not just a gambling den. He's also a pimp, right. That's especially I think that he gets more into that as the farm fails. He's like, well, crime will make money for me, And he uses the proceeds of both gambling and prostitution in order to make the money that he

invests in oil fields. And it's very possible. We don't know entirely. If it's that he literally won his first oil field in a card game, that was a rumor and it seems very possible. But if he didn't win his first oil field in a card game, then he bought it with the proceeds from crime right, And I think it's probably true. He probably won his first oil field in a card game and then invested in other leases and got into the trading leases game with money

he made from crime right. I think it's probably a mix of those. But this guy has to become a criminal to get rich, right, That's not emphasized enough in the hagiographies of him. But like he's he's a he's a pimp, you know.

truth with these these kinds of assholes. I found an article from the Nation from nineteen sixty four. The author of that article claims the explanation that he gambled to get his first oil field got into print for the first time in nineteen fifty in a British newspaper, but it has been repeated many times since. Hunt denies it all, And I don't know what the truth is here. Whatever the truth, Hunt is going to continue operating gambling establishments

for the next couple decades. He makes a fortune on the Arkansas oil boom and is said to have been worth six hundred thousand dollars by the time he's twenty five, which you know, by the standards, like if you turn that into modern money, he's a multimillionaire pretty much by the time he's in his mid twenties. Now, he's going to lose all of that money not long after this bill make even more back. Right, He's not what you'd call a good father at any point in time, especially in this period.

He's always gambling. Right. During the early years before he leaves Arkansas to pursue oil fields in Louisiana and then Texas, his kids tell regular stories of him just being gone all the time and like mom need to find someone to watch them when she had to do something because he's playing poker, right, And she hates him gambling. She thinks that him gambling is the root of all of

their problems. Now, to be fair, she's not right, Like she blames him gambling on them going bankrupt like two or three times, and he goes bankrupt because of the legitimate businesses, like first because of his farm, and then I think like a couple of times as he's not quite bankrupt, but he loses a lot of money on like oilp gambling is a really reliable way for them to make money or at least, I should say. The card gambling is not what is bad for their finances.

His gambling on oil speculation fucks them over a couple of times, right.

that he's coming back. I think he's like, I'm gonna go see what I if I can make a fortune. And he's kind of like, and if I die out there or whatever and leave you guys destitute, well that's how it goes.

and leave his family. He does not need to. He has a point where he's like, you could choose to be a father and raise your kids and you would all be wealthy for the rest of your lives. And he takes all of that money and puts it all on black and loses it and is gone for like another year or so to make it back, right, Right, So this is not good for his.

security for his family. Right, that is accurate, And that's also how his wife and his first couple of kids see him. Right, is he does not give a fuck about us. He is willing to gamble all like our happiness and our survival entirely because it thrills him. When his oldest son hassee turns eight, it's become a parent that he has inherited his father's intellect. Hassie is incredibly bright. Unfortunately, he's also the one who's most hurt by his father's

complete neglect to scene rights. Hassie felt personal rejected by this strange man who entered his life only now and then without warning. This man had named him after himself, had given him his looks and quick intelligence, then apparently decided his son was not quite up to snuff right, So that's very much how Hassee sees what his dad is doing is like he named me after himself. He clearly wanted me to be his heir, and then I must have failed him because he wants nothing to do with me.

a lot with Frannia Tie. With this waitress, right, she's a wanna be musician. She's like a singer, And so he gets really into writing musicals. He convinces himself that like he's a great writer, and in fact that like, oh, all these other writers all these professional writers are idiots, Like, I bet because I'm so smart, I could be the best playwright ever if I just devoted some time to it. So he like becomes convinced he's going to be like

the biggest thing on Broadway. He like goes to a show on Broadway once around this period of time, and he's like, I'm going to make the best musical that's ever been made.

marries her on Armises Day nineteen twenty five. Now, but you may note he never divorced his first wife, nor did he break up with her, nor did he tell her that he was done. Frannia, by the way, does not know she's that he's cheating. She has no idea he has another wife. He does not tell her he has a wife and multiple children. He's lying to her too,

She's not does not bear any responsibility here. She thinks she's met a guy and fall in love with him, and he marries her and they start having kids together. He buys her a house, and he just starts raising a second secret family in Florida will ultimately have four children Jamaican.

not a speculator. Joiner is one of these guys I forget the term for it, but he's like he's like a prospector for oil wells. Right. So Joiner identifies some land that's like, I think there's oil on this land. This is like I think a lot of it, right, And this well's name is number one, Daisy Bradford. Joiner is like a legend in the oil well prospecting business. This is a big deal. Guys like this who are like really skilled withoth the geology and stuff to like

find well. Yeah to like because this is the whole oil boom relies on guys like this going out and because they don't have a lot of the technology we have today, so they're kind of looking at like the geology and whatnot, and like, where do I think there's

going to be oil? Because it costs a lot of money to like drill to prove that there's oil and a property right, So the guys who are best at identifying places that they think are worth drilling and have the highest success rate are worth a lot of money. And Joiner is one of the best of these guys, and he picks out this space that becomes the oil well Number one Daisy Bradford. Hunt buys the rights to this oil well. Because that's how guys like Joiner make it.

They're not running the wells themselves. They like they find, they speculate, they find it, and then they like buy a bunch of acreage that they think is a good place for an oil well, and then try to find someone else to buy it and actually like prove their like make the well right. That's kind of how the

business works. I'm YadA YadA ing a lot, but Hunt buys the rights to this well, and he leases four thousand surrounding acres from ce him Joiner, So he doesn't own this land, he's like leasing it and basically buying the rights to exploit the well. So he and Joyer are in business together. Initially, this proves to be a really wise move because number one Daisy Bradford becomes the largest producing oil field on planet Earth for years. This

is the number one oil field on the planet. Right, that is going to make a lot of money.

He paid one million dollars but joined or died with little money and the almost uncut countable riches Hunt is taken from Joyner's old land has turned some Texas oilmen sour on him. So basically, people are pretty sure Hunt did something to screw Joiner out of a lot of money and like kind of ruin him. But we don't know that that happened. Joyner might have just squandered it. Right,

some of those oilmen might have had sour grapes. That said, I think there's a pretty good chance Hunt fucks this guy like he does not have being great with his business partners. Yeah, exactly, he fucks everything else.

more oil wells. He eventually owns hundreds of oil wells, more than five I forget the exact number, but he owns so many fucking oil wells and somebody that he accumulates an almost impossible seeming percentage of the US oil market. He lives in Tyler, Texas during this period where he was noted by others. Is he's like, This is when he's starting to really get rich as a he's a loaner, right.

He doesn't like to the oil well guys, the guys who are like working on these wildcat rigs and stuff like socialized, like to party, like to go out and drink. He doesn't socialize with any of his colleagues or any of his subordinates. He doesn't like to know them. He likes to work. He spends his free time doing extra work in his office indoors, not outside. He prefers making deals to doing any labor on any of the claims

that he owns. The son of one of his business partners at the time recalled mister Hunt never forgot anything map statistics, least data, He's never forgot. So he's got this. He's got this like edetic memory, I think is the term for it, right where he just he just doesn't forget things. Hunt has had to abandon his family at least twice to get to this point, but by now he has finally made it, and as the nineteen thirties turned into the nineteen forties, he is making money hand

over fist. Now the case made in that article in the Nation, which is the best explanation I've seen anyone give as for why Hunt succeeds so far. Hard goes like this. He never stops gambling, and that's what works for him. Ultimately, his whole driving intellectual justification for his business practices is the law of averages. He thinks about being an oil speculator the same way he thought about

playing poker. As Hunt himself said, quote, an element of luck is important when you first get started in the business. If you don't get a well fast. You can't accumulate the capital to start operating on a large enough scale. But after you start rolling, what you mainly need is a thorough knowledge of the laws of chance. A wildcatter can expect to bring in one well for every thirty tries, and only one man in thirty will do that. If you don't have faith in the law of averages, you'll

probably get discouraged and quit. In my wildcatting days, I've drilled one hundred dry wells, one after the other. Then, when prospects look most pessimistic, the law of averages would go to work for me, just as I figured it would. Now that article goes on a note after Hunt's quote. The boldness of that statement can be understood only when one realizes that a quarter of a million dollars is

not an unusual cost for wildcatting a single well. So when he says he'd have one hundred dry wells in a row, each of those dry wells is costing like a quarter of a million bucks. That's just wasted. Crazy like that. He is gambling. That's why he loves this is this is gambling.

and uncle who were like business partners, went bankrupt. Like it was my dad had to leave for like almost two years to work in New York because it was the only place he could get a job and that wasn't our house. And once I started making money, I don't gamble like, I don't gamble, and I don't like invest in crazy shit like I'm really conservative with like in my investments and like finances like saving for retirement.

I am very risk averse because I don't want to be scared about money again because I spend a lot of my life scared about money. Yeah.

craziest fact. You want to know, how rich this guy is, how big a deal he is in the oil and gas industry at the start of World World War two, At the start when the US enters World War two, hl Hunt personally owns more oil reserves than all of the Axis powers put together. Jesus, Like, if you just want to, if you want to, like little hint about by the time the US enters how fucked the axises from the start of that portion of World War two, one guy in the US has more oil than all

of the Axis powers have access to. One guy. They were once that like they could never have won. What's the US got involved? Like when you let the US and Russia so like all of the money and resources and all of the people, like you're like, these people were so fucking fucked. Hl Hunt has more oil than all of your asses.

establishment near his office in Dallas. So he continues running a casino, But at this point it's just for fun, right, it's love of the game. He has his money like vibes like he absolutely and he'll get in trouble a couple of times. There'll be some like investigations because he stays involved in a lot of illegal gambling stuff as an adult. He'll nearly get in trouble a couple of times, but it's just for it's just for shits and giggles

at this stage. Now, obviously up to this point, this is like a dude who I don't think is very pleasant, but there's not enough to make him a bastard. You know, at this stage in the oil and gas industry, he doesn't know about climate change. That's certainly not like the widespread scientific consensus. So he can't really get him on that. He hasn't done anything. He's a shitty dad, and he's bigamously married, and those are bad things, but on its own.

I don't do it behind the bastards just because a guy's got a shitty personal life. So now we're going to talk about this stuff that makes him earn his way onto the podcast.

depletion allowances work in tax laws. And I'm not gonna explain this in detail because I don't know much about taxes, but it's this thing that, because of the way it works, you can kind of not pay taxes at all if you're an oil man in a specific way. Right. Per his biographer, Hunt began to realize that maybe he had been a trifle hasty and opposing American intervention. So basically he's like, wait, a secon, I can sell all of the oil to the Allied Powers and I don't have

to pay taxes on it. No. World War two sounds great.

like an officer. But his son specifically gets commissioned because of who his dad is and the job a very nepo baby thing, and he doesn't want to be a

Nepo baby. By this point in time, Hasse has already established himself independently as a successful oil man, like a separate from his dad, and he hates his dad, and he really does not want to be associated with his father, and his dad forces him by working with the government, forces him into the situation that now he's made to join the army and he's made to take a job with the army where he's working in DC and he's basically advising the leader of China's nationalist faction during their

civil war. So he's like working with Chang Kai Shek's guys specifically, I think on like oil, a lot of oil related stuff. And he's doing this because his dad makes this job for him. He doesn't want this job, and he's really unhappy to be forced to once again live in his dad's shadow. This like fucks him up

a lot. In the book Kingdom to sell rights about how Hasse has the op This is the like, if he'd wanted to, this would have been a great opportunity, if he enjoyed being an EPO baby, to spend the war partying and hitting on all the hot ladies who are lonely because the men are gone. That's how to sell rights. And then he adds this just yet another

fascinating passage from his biography. The variety of females was enhanced by the Chinese Nationalist government, which staffed its embassy heavily with new bile young beauties from the Asian mainland. Willing young females have always been one of the Earth's most readily accepted forms of currency, and currency was required to purchase power and influence. Gee, the gross gross Like, yeah,

you're not wrong. I'm sure the Chinese Nationalist government did staff their embassy with hotties because they know that that allows them to like you can use hot girls to help you spy on people, and you can use them to gain black male stuff. But like, that's a gross way to write that. Also, the variety of females. Yes, he always uses females.

that you could possibly do as a father. And this is very in line with how he is as a dad. He's never there and he never provides any emotional support. But he also has a very idea of what he wants his namesake to do for a living, and he will like berate him and scream at him anytime he

does anything different or anytime he falls short. And now he's like, oh, you want to live independently into your own thing, No, fuck you, You're taking this job that I've made the government give you, and you're gonna do it.

And Hasse is deeply uncomfortable, and he has what sounds like a psychotic break one night after a party at the Chinese Embassy and flies into a violent rage, destroying all of the furniture in the room and like fighting people, And when hotel staff approach him, he starts screaming, I've been betrayed, betrayed by the Rockefellers, betrayed by my father's enemies. They're all out to get me. So maybe it's kind of hard. I don't know what's going on with him.

It may have been like paranoid schizophrenia, because he's like never going to get better. He's mentally ill. The rest of his bad broke him, He broke his boy. Yeah, yeah, I do.

be too sensitive. You know, that's what's wrong with him. And when he says this, his daughter, Margaret, his oldest child, who's there, turns to him and replies, you destroyed hassee nobody but you. You've gotten away with a kind of murder, and it's time you faced up to.

A friend of his, John Lee, married her and gave his name to the children for an idea. He's so rich now. When his second family gets pissed and leaves an order like hide what he's done, he gets he basically, I'm sure, pays his friend to marry the family and pretend to be the father of those kids.

got all of this Union free natural gas. And he winds up supplying eighty five percent of the fuel needs of the East Coast. Again, he's not surprising that in nineteen forty eight, I Think Life magazine names him the richest man on Earth. He has an estimated net worth of two hundred and sixty three million dollars, which would be the equivalent of like three and a half billion dollars today. But he can't rest or sit on his laurels.

The United States was only able to win World War Two by partnering with the Communists, and he came to believe that a vast conspiracy was at work to destroy the United States from the n side, and hl Hunt knows a communist uprising would be very bad for hl Hunt, right, He really does not want to want to see any of that go down. His businesses he doesn't think will do well.

more about that later. Some might call an idea like this fascism adjacent, but Hunt doesn't care. His life has taught him that reality would mold to fit whatever he wants, so he decides to brute force his dream utopia into being. He's going to like make America become this country is

very much like a proto Peter Teel type. He has this dream after he gets rich of how to reorganize society so that he doesn't have to listen to anyone else, and he then begins putting his money into supporting a variety of causes and making media that will convince all of the dummies who with everyone else in the United

States that what he wants is best for everybody. He becomes a vocal supporter of Senator Joseph McCarthy, who he saw as a patriot protecting the nation from a vast cabal of secret Communist agents who had infiltrated every level

of society. Hunt decides to fight back against this, you know, left wing infiltration of all of our cultural and social governmental organs by funding one of the first explicitly right wing media organizations in the country, The Facts Forum, founded in nineteen fifty one, was immediately the best funded propaganda outlet in the United States. On paper, the Facts Forum was nonpartisan and educational. It has to be nonpartisan, it has to be.

tax system works. So his choice is basically either pay taxes and fund like society or put it all into right wing propaganda. And he's like, well, I would much rather put it all on the right wing propaganda on red. Yeah. Yeah. In one early letter, Hunt describes the vision behind the Facts Forum as a kind of projection of the old New England town hall meeting idea we have no ax to grind and no funds to raise. Now that last bit was tactically true. He was the richest man in

the world. He does not beg for donations, right, But he does beg his listeners to organize in person, advising them to set up discussion groups from seven to forty two members and like read books together and talk about the ideas that he's putting out through the show. And in doing this and suggesting this, he's cripping off of what he understood is the playbook the Bolsheviks had used

to take power. If you listen to that, there's always like reading groups, like socialist reading groups all throughout the Russian the like Czarist Russia that wind up being the core of all, not just the Bolsheviks, all of these different like left wing revolutionary groups right the start. A

lot of them start as book clubs. And he's very much and a lot of anti communists in this era post World War two, like that's the John Burt Society too, is like, what if we take the tactics these leftists are using, but we turn it towards basically pro fascist bullshit?

figures this out. Is he has his membership answer polls that he writes, and then he sends the results to newspapers as if they're real polls that are evidence of like how Americans feel about issues, and a lot of newspapers publish this as if it's the news, as if these polls are like represent how Americans feel about things, as opposed to what Hunt's really doing. Because he's coming up with the polls and it's his set group of

people who are answering them. This is a way of laundering his talking points and what he leaves about politics into the mainstream media and disguise that as no, no, this is just how the masses feel, right, this is how the average American feels. This isn't just h l Hunt's opinion.

public opinion. Yeah. Interesting, So from the jump, the only opinion Hunts interested in was his own. He is not organizing with other conservatives because he's special.

He doesn't organize with anyone else because he doesn't need to. He hates people. Right, He is not interested in the Facts Forum being a place where other conservatives can express their opinions. Right, it exists, so hl Hunt can convince Americans to adopt his politics because his belief, it's almost a religious belief to him, is that he's so right about everything that if everyone just hears what he believes,

everyone will adopt his political beliefs immediately. Obviously, the narcissism now the only issue for Hunt, and the reason this is a problem when he's starts creating radio and TV propaganda is that he's terrified of public speaking. He hates talking to people. He doesn't he has no charisma, and he knows it. So he picks a spokesman.

he says it, that's all that matters. Now, these were still the days in which the fairness doctrine held sway. The fairness doctrine is a nineteen forty nine FCC policy that required broadcast license holders to present controversial issues in a matter that fairly depicted differing views. Individual shows didn't

have to abide by this, but license holders did. So if you have a right wing show, you're supposed to have like a left wing show too, right, And because that's very expensive, networks are always looking for balanced news programs to fill the air where you don't have to have a second one to counteract the bias of the

first one. Right, So this is they're always desperate for balanced content, and the fact that his Hunt is making this and giving it to networks for free makes it really attractive to them, like they're going to give it free airtime because it's free. In nineteen fifty one, the Facts Forum benefited from about five million per year in free public service airtime. And again I think there's tax benefits to the networks for running balanced educational content too,

so that's also makes this attractive to them. One estimate I've seen is that in nineteen fifty four, Hunt benefited from the modern day equivalent of half a billion dollars a year in free airtime, which is the calculations that in twenty sixteen, in that election Trump got about a billion dollars in free airtime just in terms of like because of how like many how much coverage the news gave everything, he said, So the fact that Hunt's getting

half a billion a year for that for years is significant. That's a lot of free airtime, right, It's about twenty five thousand hours a free right wing propaganda on the radio and TV per year that's marketed and billed as nonpartisan.

worse than murder. On the con side, the argument was that such conspirators were only dupes or communist sympathizers. Dangerous, Yes, but those were just misguided pawns whose civil rights should be respected. Bus As one critic described it, a negative argument against the death penalty for communist conspirators turns into a positive affirmation that nation is in imminent danger of

collapse from subversion, a favorite Facts Forum thesis. Right. So, that's how, even though they're kind of pretending that this is non biased, everyone, even the left wing argument pushes a right wing narrative. And there are critics who noticed this at the time. In nineteen fifty four, bin Bagdikian, which is a real name, wrote a takedown of the Facts Forum, Yeah, complaining that when it used the terms

pro Soviet and Unamerican, it meant quote. Those terms include the Roosevelt and Truman administrations and the people who supported them, Right so, Yeah, and when it refers to American freedom, the show means, among other things, a total absence of government regulation in business and a withdrawal from the United Nations. They're referring to. These things is things everyone believes and

believes and agrees with, even though they're very much not right. Yeah, And we'll talk more about these his shows, the Facts Forum, the shows that follow that, and Hunt's bizarre personal life and the things he comes to believe about health and wellness. But I think that's all we've got for part two, so I'm guessing it's gonna have to be a three parter. Princess, how are you feeling at the end of this?

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