M hey, everybody, welcome to Behind the Bastards. I'm Robert Evans, and this is the show where we tell you everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history. I'm gonna take a quick bite from a delightful derrito, and I'm going to introduce our guests for the day. M hmm. Do you hear the sound of it biting back? It feels so good to hear that. Oh my god, Benjamin No co hosts of ridiculous history
and stuff they don't want you to know. Also a little punchy right now because here we're on the East coast and so it's eight o'clock right now, and we've been here since about eight am, and uh so if but it's fine, I just I'm like writing it out. I'm having a great time. Also, we can see each other on video, so every time that Robert eats a derrito, we we noticed the pause, we get the whole gravitas of the performance, you know, and take a shot of whiskey.
And I'm personally very excited that we, you know, want to welcome all the listeners, uh to this episode that that we've teased for a little bit, because that last episode had some really heavy, emotionally powerful and uh, despair worthy stuff, and I think we're finally setting ourselves up for some catharsis right, Robert, Yes, we are so. Just in case you're tuning in for the part three for some reason and haven't watched the first two, we're talking
about Alex Jones. In part one, we talked about his rise and how he's sort of invented a lot of the field that we're all currently employed in and figured out how to market stuff using the Internet and podcasts
in the radio and really revolutionary ways. In part two, we talked about how he built an empire selling supplements, some of which contained six times the recommended daily dose of lead, and how his empire was heavily dependent on convincing people that the government was attacking them and that they were under threatened about to be destroyed, and that this sparked a number of mass shootings, or at least was a factor potentially in a number of mass shootings,
because a whole lot of his fans have committed mass shootings. We ended by talking about the Sandy Hook conspiracy theory, which Alex Jones was one of the origin points for, and which resulted in a massive lawsuit that is still ongoing. So as as you talked about today, is the schadenfreude episode of of Alex Jones, the Fall of the House of Jones, where we talk about sort of the collapse or what appears to be the collapse of this empire
that he has built. But before we get into all of the lawsuits, I'm going to go back in time a little bit to the election. It is possible that Alex Jones did not want Donald Trump to win the two thousand and sixteen election. Uh you will remember back in two thousand and twelve, there was some suspicion by people close to Alex that he actually voted for Barack Obama because he was afraid that he would make less
money with a Republican in the White House. And when on election night it started to look like Trump was going to win, one staffer who was with Jones on that night reported later, quote, he looked depressed. You could tell when he found out that Trump was going to win. You could see his mood change. This employee noted that quote, his business is based on a fear of the left taking over a conservative way of life. He has to have that power of fear, that idea that they're going
to take your guns. Trump winning put it all in jeopardy. Now, I don't know how true that is. I suspect the employee who said that may have been Ashley Lynn Beckford, who filed an e O C claim against Alex this year that we'll be talking about in a little bit, but maybe not. We don't know if that quote is true. We do know that, on paper, at least late two thousand sixteen was the apex of Alex Jones's influence. He claims to have had eighteen million viewers watching the returns
come in live on election Night. Now. A few weeks later, in mid December, Alex filmed one of the most incredible videos I've ever seen in my entire life. I thoroughly suggest you listeners find this video on our website because it shows Alex Jones looking like an unhinged, goddamn maniac, and more so than he has ever looked before. In this video that we're about to play the audio from, he is shirtless wandering our round the woods near his
studio in the dead of winter. One of his cameraman says, it's twenty five degrees outside Jones is an asset or something. He looks like it. Man, I think he looks like he's about to change into a wolf. He's like mid metamorphoustamorphouses. Imagine Alex Jones about to burst into werewolf dum and you'll have a good idea of how he looks in this. Now. In the part of the video right before I play this, Jones claims that the media would freak out if they knew how connected he was to the New Halls of
Power and the President Trump. And now we're gonna play a good chunk of this video for y'all the experience. This feels fantastic. This is what it is to be alive. Her answers, run, run. It's a lot of colder than this, taking animals hall on them back to the y. That's what it's. I'm not here bathing in the night forest, bathing as it's all about. I don't need. He's on heavy drugs. He did a couple times in high school. I'm like, this is harding an anxiety attack. He might
be on that. This this is what it is to take on the global It's to have Hillary attack you and attack you when the communist Chinese attack you and call for your censorship. Dart the dark heart right there, It is right there. I do have greight hair, only my heart. But the point is is that this is what it's all about. This is what it's like when you don't sit in front of video games all day and act like you're intellectual and act like you're tough.
And I'm not criticizing you you playing video games. The point is it's designed and it's to humanize you in every single way. And it feels so good to break free from the matrix. It feels so good to be alive. It feels so good to be involved, and it feels so good to just feel my humanity rising as we resist the globlest Him is the spirit of humanity re enters the earth and the enemy. Just the looks on both of your faces right now are priceless. I wish
I wish this was a video podcast or whatever. Oh my god, he keeps it is just that is the most bonkers thing I've ever seen in my life. No, there's no doubt he He's like on Hiawaska or some ship. I mean like that. I don't know what is going on with him. Forest bathing forest bathing, Yes, he continues. The video goes on for quite a while and he continues to wander around in the woods, followed by a giggling camera crew. H Jones suggests staying outside for hours.
He repeatedly says how good he feels in the cold. He says at one point, quote people jump into buckets of ice. That's what's cold, which is not an untrue statement. That is cold. Uh. He tells an elaborate story about going hunting with his dad, all in the same manic tone. He suggests marching down to Barton Creek and then he says, it's weird your body doesn't get cold if you wear gloves. What he's wearing gloves and nothing else on his chest in that video. And apparently we have a lot Atlanta
where our podcasts are based, beautiful city. Um, we have a lot of very interesting people struggling with drug addiction. And that's totally sounds like crackhead logic, Like I could see somebody assuring us that it's okay, they're not cold, or they can't get wet or something because they have gloves. You know that. He does definitely seem like he could be on crack. If you were to tell me this is a video of Alex Jones having just smoked a big rock of crack, I would say, yeah, that's maybe
We're gonna play one more clip from that video. So right before this next clip, he starts talking about, you know, going bald, and then he throws in an ad offering off of coloeal silver. Because even wandering around on drugs, shirtless in the woods, Alex Jones knows how to plug his fucking products. All Right, calm, these are really badass stuff, people asked. I mean, I turned into a blob. I'm not in great shape now, but I lost it almost seventy pounds sixty a lot of muscle. Uh. And it is.
I haven't taken any brain forces. I just didn't need it. Had had coffee uh today, and I'm just hired to cock with what's happened in the world. I mean, we're battling the globless, we're affecting world change. As a man, my body just goes, this is great, here's more energy. Great job. I almost want to play the whole video, but that would be too much for the people listening. But it's a remarkable thing. You should watch this video of Alex Jones, shirtless, wandering in the woods and screaming,
going like the gamnet of human emotions here. He deserves an Emmy for that video. I don't know what emmy, but just someone should give him one. This is right after the election. He certainly doesn't seem bummed about Trump winning in this video, so who knows what his actual feelings were. There's obviously been a lot of debate recently and over the last couple of years about how much
influence Alex Jones now has in the White House. UH In two thousands seventeen, BuzzFeed made a good case for how his ideas at least regularly spread to the president. Quote in early March, in response to claims that the Trump administration was potentially colluding with Russia, and info Wars editor tweeted an old photo of New York Senator Chuck
Schumer looking chummy with Vladimir Putin. Twelve hours later, the image was splashed atop the Drudge Report, and less than twelve hours after that, Trump's presidential account had tweeted it. It wasn't the first time something like this had happened. In November two sixteen, info Wars published a story citing an unverified claim from a former Texas Health and Human Services Commission deputy commissioner that three million non citizens had
voted illegally. The info war story was leaked by the Drudge Report, and thirteen days later wound up the subject of a tweet from Trump's account. As Jones put it last summer to the journalist John Ronson, quote, I put out a video a message to Trump, and then two days later he lays out the case. It's like sending
up the bat signal. So Alex Jones is able to get information to Donald Trump, but it's possible and very likely in fact, that the two have not had communicated directly since that time Trump called him right after the election. In fact, it doesn't look like the direct line to President Trump that Alex was hoping for in that shirtless
video ever, came to pass. In March of two seventeen, in an interview on the Travis County Courthouse steps, Alex Jones total reporter quote, we don't speak much since he became president. It's unclear if Jones is happy with the influence he has or angry because he doesn't get to communicate directly and formally to the President. I really don't know. In any case, the first hundred days of the Trump administration were actually not a good time for Alex Jones.
For one thing, that dude held up the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria with an a R fifteen, believing child sex slaves were hidden in its basement. Jones wound up having to apologize for helping to spread the theory in order to avoid liability for his actions. Then he still wound up in a court fighting a vicious custody battle. Two thousand seventeen was the spark for a so far endless
series of lawsuits from Mr Jones. Now during these episodes, I've repeatedly referenced to two thousand eleven Rolling Stone article Meet Alex Jones. I told you that while it definitely took the stance that Jones was a crank, it presented a pretty fond picture of the guy quotes like this. People think I'm depressive and angry, but it's the opposite, Jones tells me over Margarita's at his favorite Mexican joint. My life is a love letter to humanity, with the
globalist do as a hate letter a curse. The article describes Jones as a doting father, a devoted husband, and definitely not a racist. Quote. Unlike many of his conspiracy minded predecessors, Henry Ford, the Ku Klux Klan, the Militia movement, Jones has no tolerance for racism or anti Semitism. There's no globalist command center, and I never make it about certain groups, says Jones, whose wife is of Jewish descent and whose adopted sister, Marley is Asian American. So Jones
denies being racist. Uh, and Rolling Stone was willing to give him credit on that in two thousand eleven. Um, now in two thousand eighteen, we have some evidence that he may in fact be a little bit racist. And that's what we're going to get into right now. Um, We're about to read some excerpts from a complaint made by Ashley Lynn Beckford, a black former employee of Alex Jones and Info Wars. She made this complaint to the
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in two thousand eighteen. The complaint does not portray a man with no tolerance for racism. Ashley, who I believe was the third ever black employee at Info Wars, filed this in February of two eighteen. You can find a link to the whole report on our site, but I'm gonna read some quotes to it from it. To my knowledge, I was the only African amer Arcan
woman ever to work at Free Speech Systems LLC. I was at the forefront of info wars news reports as a broadcast news analyst during the Trump election season and transition period. Both African American men ever to work for the production team were fired within the same month July two thousand seventeen. I believe that certain actions, such as underpaying me, were taken against me because I am a
black individual. I was repeatedly mocked for my skin tone, and I was denied promotions to match the salary of other coworkers who did less work in a similar job. I have no trouble believing this story, although I am certain that Alex Jones and Info Wars deny it. So again, this is the report of an employee with the grievance. She's not an objective reporter, but she paints a fascinating picture of working at info Wars. Here's how she describes
the hostile work environment. I was intimidated by the constant open carry and display of guns by co workers in the workplace. My supervisors and pure colleagues often brandished guns to scare away crazed fans, which made me feel uncomfortable and unsafe at work every day. So apparently people regularly show up to info Wars and have to be waved off by gun wielding Info Wars employees. That's insane. Yeah, yeah, it really paints a vivid picture of the working environment there.
She claims that she and other employees were ordered to work longer weekday and weekend hours without pay. She claims they were repeatedly called motherfucker's by Alex's cousin Buckley Hammond. She says that she was once called a coon. She recalls having to stop a colleague from calling black people colored on the air, and she recalls a colleague showing her a pair of swastika covered shoes that he received as a gift from a fan. So it certainly seems like a lot of racism going on in the Info
Wars office. Jesus Christ, and I guess the m O then, would at that point be for Alex Jones to say, I don't tolerate that, and I'm not aware of it, right, Yeah, he would deny any sort of awareness of of anything like that. And he does deny any sort of awareness of that, but the complaint is still there. So Ashley tells the story of an ugly interaction she had when she was ordered to question people outside of a pro
Hillary rally in two thousand sixteen. My cameraman, Josh Owens, who had worked in full Wars for years compared to my less than three month tenure, consistently pressured me to engage with the Hillary Clinton supporters as a black Trump promoter. I was subsequently subject to multiple people hurling insults and racial slurs at me, including Uncle Tom by one of
the gay, white male attendees. Another Clinton supporter, a white lesbian woman, told me that she knew more about black issues than I did because she is married to a black woman who was also present. I went back to the Info Wars office in tears, incredulous at how I was being racially attacked because of my support for a political candidate, and Alex Jones, taking advantage of my fragility in that moment, forced me to share what had happened to me on the air for YouTube and other social
media That same night feigning his own tears of empathy. So, wow, that's pretty gross. I will say there's some reasons to be a little bit suspicious of this lady, Like she claims that this video she feels like damaged her ability to be hired as a journalist in the future. And I gotta say, lady, working for info worce damaged your ability to be hired as a journalist in the future. That is not the thing you want on your resume
if you're shooting for a job with The New York Times. Um. Yeah, but I don't have any trouble believing that it's a hostile work environment. Ashley goes on to claim that during this obviously traumatic and pretty fucked up time, Alex Jones copped to feel quote after the broadcast, I was with Alex Jones, Rob do and several other members in Rob
Dow's office. I was talking about how I didn't agree with the white woman who had said that she knows about the black community better than I do because she has a black wife. Alex Jones was still pretending to feel sympathy for my plight as a black female Trump supporter, and he put his arm around my shoulder to initiate a side hug after he pulled me to his side, Instead of removing his arm from my shoulder, he allowed his arm to slide down my back and he grabbed
my butt with his right hand. Simultaneously, he was commenting to those in the room who wouldn't want to have a black wife to response to my comment. I felt embarrassed and nervous, but I knew that he had specific He touched my behind at that moment as a sly come on that other people may not notice. It was extremely ironic because it was the lesbian, white woman with the black wife who had mentioned earlier that night on camera how Alex Jones is a womanizer who loves gray goose.
I didn't know then that later on that same night, he would be drunk enough to feel confident about fondling his female staffers parentheses. Most of the staff was drinking alcohol that night in the office, as was the usual on late nights. Alex Jones was in possession of his trademark mugs and paper cups, which the staffer is often alleged contained alcohol infused beverages. So Alex Jones, well, what Fuckory,
that's crazy? Yeah, well so So the the idea then, is that the guys I guess, trying to act as though he is a champion, and maybe it sounds like he's trying to diffuse the situation with the wife joke. But surely there's some kind of HR thing there or No. I have a lot of trouble believing that info Wars has a particularly dedicated HR team. Um, I'm just gonna guess that's not one of the things they do really well.
My read on that is that he was sort of making that joke while he was groping her, almost as like a distraction. But I don't I don't know. I wasn't there. That seems to be what she's saying. Yeah, I'm fascinated by the picture. This also paints at the office because now we know everyone is always armed at info Wars. People regularly wave guns around and whenever they
work late nights, which is often, they're drunk. So it's a compound near the woods in Austin filled with drunken, armed people ranting about conspiracies and I can't believe I hate them, And it sounds like a terrible place because drunken, heavily armed commune in the Woods. Sounds like it could be a lot of fun if it wasn't Alex Chimes. It sounds like there's also some potential for these people waving their dicks around, so, oh my god, that has
to be right. Yeah, yeah, oh no, it seems like rife for misogyny and and ask grabbery, even just waving their dicks around at each other literally just for fun. Yeah. Yeah, I do have trouble imagining someone working for Alex for a long time and not seeing his dick like I mean, first of all, we don't see below the belt for most of these shirtless VIDs. I conjecture that it's possible that he's full nude, especially in that Woods video. I mean,
it's anything in that Woods video. That guy hates clothes, just unless they're gloves. Wandering around naked except for a pair of gloves in the winter. Ah. That does a nice job of scrubbing the sexual harassment complaint out of my memory. Yeah, so what happens to her, Well, we'll get into that right now. It seems to be an appropriate time to sell some products and services, So I
got to move that product. Gotta move the products and those services, So we will talk more about Ashley's complaint and then the litany of other lawsuits that Alex is dealing with right now. But first consumerism. We are back. We were just talking about some potential names for Alex Jones products that we we think might might sell really well. Like we know he does DNA force and iodine shield. Um, I don't know, Vitamin B twelve assault and battery that's nice.
And trespass yeah, yeah, potassium genocide that's the mic drop. Yeah, I think we just discovered my new favorite improv game as like a warm up. So we were just talking about Ashley Lynn Beckford's pretty detailed complaint about sexual harassment
and rampant racism at the infoler's office. She also alleges that the term quote black bitch was repeatedly used both by info Wars writers and articles, and if you google info Wars and those words, you will find a number of articles where that term comes up, usually referring to Black Lives Matter activists, but she says that it was also used repeatedly in the office and used around her, specifically people trying to get a rise out of her
and whatnot. Just to clarify, I'm sorry to interrupt so this term was used by actual paid writers and staff, not by just people dropping not on the forum. Yeah, a number of paid writers and staff. There are a number of articles. She lists them in the complaint where the term fat black bitch was used in info Wars articles. Holy smokes. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. She reported her coworkers for using this term in the office, but nothing was done. She says that guns were brandished on a
daily basis. When she complained, her supervisor told her it was part of the company culture and advised her to quote keep her head down, which is good advice when a bunch of drunken men are waving guns around. Yeah, keep read. Do maybe buy some of that Alex Jones body armor. She he was told not to complain about things that made her uncomfortable, and Alex Jones, of course continued to hit on her. Here's another story of that quote.
Alex Jones came to my desk on one occasion to find out what I like to do for fun outside of work. It's my opinion that it was his intention to see if he could groom me for sexual exploitation, because he also mentioned that I quote had a good body that looked like I worked out a lot. I was concerned that these unwanted sexual advances would eventually result in a request for sexual favors in exchange for promotions In the office, it was rumored that he may have
had inappropriate relationships with other female production staff employees. In addition, Alex Jones himself has alluded to the fact that he loves to grab women's backsides and videos that he has made and uploaded to YouTube. Alex often spent time shirtless and endlessly leering with or without a shirt at female guests and employees, while creating a disgusting, hostile environment that openly encourages his staff to stare at and make inappropriate
comments towards women. I definitely believe that he spent a lot of time shirtless in the office. I have no trouble whatsoever believing that Alex Jaron's was regularly shirtless, shirtless and leering. The Alex Jones story shirtless and leering and probably carrying a gun. Alex Jones the complaint is a pretty remarkable document. Again, I can't claim to know how accurate it all is, but she does claim on this official legal document that she has audio tapes of much
of the harassment. Former info Wars video editor Rob Jacobson, who is Jewish and that's will be relevant in a minute, claims that he was discriminated against during his thirteen years working with Alex Jones. He says he was called the studios quote resident jew quote, the Jewish individual, and Jacobson, which I don't know why that's an anti Jewish thing, but anyway, you get the picture. A lot of anti
Semitism at the Info Wars office. Rob says this about Alex Jones, quote my employer also inserted my face onto a photo of a Hasidic Jewish man and circulated that picture around the office. So holy ship. The idea that he's coding the term globalists and uses it to mean Jewish people seems pretty plausible when he really really does. The least surprising thing in the world would be that Alex Jones believes in a Jewish conspiracy. Yeah, that would not shock me at all, although I would actually be
a little bit shocked. I go back and forth on this because part of me thinks he has never at least never that I've come up with. I've never run into him in a video making a very clear direct sort of reference to anti Semitism or a Jewish conspiracy, and part of me note wonders, does Alex Jones have the discipline if he really believes in this conspiracy two
hide it that much? Maybe he like is anti Semitic enough to find some jokes about it funny, but really doesn't believe in a conspiracy, because if he did, I feel like it might have leaked out more. I don't know. I go back and forth and saying I don't think he's disciplined enough to keep it under wraps. He would just, like, you know, just poop out of his mouth and come
out with some fucking like anti Semitic garbage. I think that if Alex Jones has believed this whole time in a giant Jewish global conspiracy, the most impressive thing about him is that he's been so disciplined enough to never be direct about it that that would almost be kind of impressive to me. Does he use uh the other dog whistle words like does he say Zionists and stuff
like that. I haven't run into that he's more pro Israel now that Trump's because he's he's become a lot more conservative, especially since Trump got into the White House. He used to be very critical of Israel, but it was always critical of Israeli foreign policy. And of course, obviously you don't have to be anti Semitic to have criticisms of Israel Um. And when I've listened to those videos, I have not run into anything where it sounds like
he's an anti Semitic crank um. Other than that, it certainly seems like you could replace globalists with Jewish people in a rant and you would have a Nazi rand. But I don't know if that's Alex's intent or not. I really go back and forth on this, because if it is, he's hiding it. Well. Yeah, So here's another
thing that could be possible. If the profile that we are painting of this dude is accurate to a high enough degree, then it's completely possible that he would be able to have a disciplined approach due to the bottom line, Because what we're really asking about here is the nature of belief. How much does he believe his own bullshit? And it may well be that he just performs the belief when he feels like it will help him in
a situation. So maybe behind closed doors with employees, he's not quite straight out saying Jews, but he says you know them and like nods a little bit so you can hear the italics when he speaks. He also does hilarious photoshop jobs, you know, with Jewish employees. I mean, there's there's no question I have no I'm believing that whatsoever. But no, I think to your point, he probably does a better job of like holding that character when it
suits him. But I do feel like in this part of the story, we're starting to see that unravel a little bit, and I think that's interesting and I want to I want to see more of that. Yeah, and that is definitely the story of post Alex Jones, is him unraveling and the things that he's clearly kept in check and hidden to a degree over the years starting to fall apart. So, yeah, this is actually the point where we get to the piece to resistance of this episode,
Alex Jones's custody hearing. Oh here would go wasting for this one, right. Yeah, And now, I never thought I would cover a custody hearing in in one of my episodes. I'm a little bit even was hesitant to talk about this stuff just because everybody has a private life custody hearings are always ugly, but after everything I read about what happened in this hearing, you really can't get the whole story of Alex Jones without talking about this custody hearing.
It is a critical moment in the study of jones oology. So we're going to talk about this custody be hearing. In two thousand seven, Kelly Rebecca Nichols married Alex Jones. So they got together when he was starting to be prominent, but before he was super rich. You know, that's like the year after he started the Info Wars store, but before he was starting in full War's life, which is
when he really started to make money. So they split up in two thousand thirteen and divorced in two thousand fifteen, and they've been fighting over custody of their three children ever since. They had a big courtroom hearing in April of last year. Charlie Warzle of BuzzFeed was there. Here's how he opened his article about the fateful day that that started. Quote. Alex Jones's cross examination in his ten day custody trial began today with an unusual question. You
haven't had any chili this morning? Have you, Mr Jones, Is that a serious question? Jones shot back, Now, that may seem weird to you, but that was a reference to something that had happened during Alex's deposition. In March of two thousand eighteen, Alex Jones, unofficial adviser to the President, self declared revolutionary, millionaire and forty three year old man, claimed that he couldn't remember the names of his children's teachers because he's eaten an enormous bowl of chili the
night before. That was the argument of courtroom for why he couldn't remember the teachers of his children is he he was gassy? You know it? Did that does things to your Brainia. He was asked by the judge in a court of law if chili impacted his memory, and Alex Jones replied, big old bowl of chili, Sure does. Yeah, which when I read the transcript, I can hear it in his voice. Really SAPs your memories the globalists in the chili It off comes the shirt. Yeah, well we're
about to talk about that. Yeah. Although I will say one of the craziest things is that after fifty or six accumulative hours spent in Alex jones land, I don't know that he's lying about chili impacting his memory. He might be telling like that may just be the way Alex Jones works, as he ate so much chili and he forgot the names of his children's teachers, and then it was like, fucking like elk chili here, you know
something super gamy. I think it if it was elk chili, it was an elk that he wrestled to the ground while hunting, naked in the woods and ripped its heart out and ate it like racky style. I mean, if I were wandering around in the woods of central Texas and I saw a naked Alex Jones run past me, chasing after a deer, I don't think I'd be surprised, and he'd be like, Okay, this is a piece of
a puzzle, thank you. So it seems like over the course of this custody hearing, Alex and his wife have spent a combined at least four to five million dollars on legal fees, maybe more like ten million. His ex wife also already gets something like five dollars a year from him, So I don't believe that money is the thing at states in this custody hearing. It really does seem that his wife is legitimately worried for the kids who Alex had primary custody of during the you know,
the time when this custody hearing started. Um, he got to pick where they lived full time, and she spent two and a half million dollars to try to get them out of his house, which I think is a sign of real concern on her part. She argued that Alex is an unstable monster trying to turn their children against her and inculcate them into being the heirs to his conspiracy empire. She claims also that Alex has been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Yeah, that's not a long walk.
It's really not that surprising. I did learn that fact when I stumbled upon his wife's website. Do you want to guess what his wife's website is? Oh my gosh, is it a pun on info wars? It sure is, buddy, custody wars dot com. How is that not already taken? It's amazing genius. Yeah, um, so there are a ton of articles on custody wars dot com. I try not to use it as a major source for this episode, just because she has a very clear bias being you know,
his ex wife finding him in a case. And I wanted to try to get as unbiased to sources as I could for the life of Alex Jones. But I had to look around it a little bit, and I had to click on an icle titled why did Kelly Moore mary Alex Jones? Because my god, I wanted to know.
I was expecting a wild and salacious rant when I clicked on the article, and I was expecting her to be essentially the female version of Alex Jones, just you know, focused on hating Alex Jones rather than on hating the globalists. That's not what I found. Uh, it was a very reasonable article. She calls him a narcissist in it, but she also spends most of the article breaking down in a very rational way what narcissistic personality disorder is and how it's easy for someone to trap you without you
really realizing at first about it. Actually, she doesn't seem crazy at all. Having read some of her website, I'm going to read a quote from that article. Sadly, Alex has been professionally diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder and Alex, like most narcissists, is good at pulling wool over people's eyes. Narcissists use a variety of verbal and emotional abuse in
their relationships, including gas lighting and manipulation. Their abuses constant, and it wears you down to the point that you question things you think you know to be true and don't know which way is up. So it's like this, this checks out because this is how he treats his audience exactly. I was expecting, like creating a website custody wars dot com. She was married Alex Jones. First I was I was waiting for her to be a crazy person.
She seems really reasonable. You can watch interviews with her that she's done for other journalists, and she's definitely media trained. She's very media savvy. She clearly has memorized a lot of different sort of speeches to go on because she but but she seems genuinely concerned for him and for their kids, and she definitely seems like the same person in the relationship. I'll say, how long were they married?
Like seven years? They split up in two thousand and thirteen, married in two thousand seven, but divorced in Yeah, so he was he was still he was already batshitt Alex Jones by this point though, right was right around the pivot point. You know, she got with him right before the Obama election, which is really sort of oh wow, imagine learning that after you're married. Watching that transformation, I
just hear the Curb your Enthusiasm music playing, you know. Well, but it was almost a little bit like the journey we've had in this podcast, because you remember when I played the first thing from him in the late nineties, you were like, he's he's fun. I kind of want to like see more of this guy. I want to, like, you know, I'm just I'm just worn down, dude. I mean, if you see me right now, I'm just like the skin is hanging off my face right now. I'm so
beat down by this whole this guy. Yeah, I wanna want to write a letter to him, a strongly worded letter. Well, yeah, we're all I like that, we're all going on the Kelly Jones journey right now. Like we can empathize with her a little bit because we started out at like, Alex Jones, this guy is fun. I'd like to have him at a party to like, oh my god. Yeah, anyway, Kelly alleges that Alex Jones has been surveilling her since the divorce, and ironically enough, leaving cameras on her property
in order to spy on her. She's found been documented at least one of these cameras. Now, Alex has a bodyguard who is a former Blackwater mercenary. Kelly alleges that Alex has had this mercenary essentially tracking her. This guy shows up with Alex in court. He's always whenever Alex is in public, there's this big bearded looking, fucking mercenary looking guy like he's got those I don't know, if you've spent a lot of time around really scary fucking people.
He's got scary fucking person eyes. Um, he's got that. I've destroyed people looking his eyes. Ye Ye, he's a scary looking guy. And uh, I don't have any trouble believing that Alex has used him to intimidate his ex wife. That doesn't not a lot of a stretch, although again this is all unconfirmed. Now, Alex claims that his ex wife is unstable and emotionally unwell. H He has brought some therapists into court who have described her that way. Uh, and you know, maybe she maybe she is, maybe she's
got some stuff loose. I don't know the woman. She alleges that he bribed those therapists and I can't know what happen. And his ex wife says that there's a lot of corruption in the court system in Austin. I don't know. Um, it may just be that she's paranoid after being married to Alex Jones for years and years,
which is entirely possible. And that's a specific genre of gas lighting that narcissists use, where they will accuse people of having the issues or behaviors that they themselves exhibit, right, Yeah, to the point where it can make that person feel is if they do have those sort of problems, Which is part of why people stay with narcissistic abusers, is that they can convince you that like you're the bad one and that you're the one doing fucked up stuff
not only that, and only I can help you. Yeah, I mean it's again, it's the same thing he does to his followers. It's bonkers to me the parallels here, only not at all. It makes absolute sense. Yeah he is well, no, he's not even consistent, but he's consistent in the tactics he uses, for sure. So Alex bought the best Texas lawyers that Texas money can buy. One of his attorneys for this custody battle was a former
Texas State Supreme Court justice. Another came from an old Texas law family, so old that there are streets in Austin around the courthouse named after this guy's family. So he spent the big money on this ship. But even these men, these top dollar lawyers, were not able to restrain Alex Jones. Charlie Warzl from BuzzFeed, who watched the whole ship show, makes it sound like a pretty fun custody hearing quote. His frustration with the opposing legal team
was theatrical and palpable. When irritated, which was often, he'd narrow his eyes into a piercing squint and sometimes point menacingly. Eventually he was ordered to switch chairs to be out of the attorney's eyeline. The judge admonished him at least a dozen times and out of the courtroom. Jones ignored a court gag order posting YouTube videos about the media's coverage of the case, even when he's spending millions of dollars on lawyers, he can't turn it off. It's remarkable.
So when we come back, we're going to talk about how shirtlessness played a role in the Alex Jones custody hearing, because you better bet shirtlessness played a role in his court battles. Because if there's one thing that we know for sure about Alex Jones, it's that the only thing he hates more than globalists is his own shirt. So all that and more after we sell you some products and uh services, and we're back and we're talking about Alex Jones and his epic court battle with his ex
wife Kelly. So yeah. At the start of the testimony, Jones's lawyers claimed that he was a performance artist and compared him to John Stewart. This was because a major chunk of his wife's case rested on the unhinged and often threatening content of his videos. On the second day of the trial, Jones in the entire courtroom watched a video of him wearing only his underwear selling male vitality supplements. Yeah,
it's a pretty special video. They also played a video from two thousand sixteen with a title Alex Jones takes off his clothes for the FBI and that's the title Alex Jones gave the video. This video includes several minutes of Alex Jones ranting about you and carbon taxes and Amazon end user license agreements. Then he talks about how your webcam is watching you, which sure maybe probably sometimes.
Alex rants about biometrics and the increasing dehumanization of modernity and claims, quote, once they've got you cashless, they've got everything, and they're going to take your humanity down to the bone and blow it away. Then ten minutes and forty seconds into this shirtless video Alex Jones made for the FBI, he starts to strip and we're gonna play that clip here. I'm just gonna I'm just going to take my shirt off. Hey, you will notice I've lost even more way, but a
slow process and forwards life dot Com. We've got the great DNA force back in stop. We've got the great supermail about Cally back in stop. I'll tell you the same amount of exercises I ever did, but taking the great things that Mother Nature has created and concentrating on much super mevitality has really helped me louse. As you can see right here now Again, I was not this tonight I have lost a lot of wight if you
compare this to past video. So while we're here with government looking on our surf history, looking at what emails we send, Google reading your emails, suicide, sat factories, murdering people, death, forced abortion, baby parts being sold. Oh, but I'm so dehumanized. I'm in my underwear. Isn't it pathetic? I just have no doubt that he's on stimulants, right, he has to be. I mean he's yeah, he's like you know, poppin Benny's
at the very least, is something good. Lord. I think there's a logic to it where he's narcissistic enough to be thinking, better take my shirt off because sex cells. You know, he might think people are attracted to it. And I I I love that in this video that he has made for the FBI, he's selling supplement stuff. That's such commitment. I just think we're seeing a man in full tail spin. He's still incorporating some of his old tricks as he breaks down in the public eye.
Like he's like he's so married to this idea of like cell cell cell, and like that's the only reason that any of the stuff exists, because he doesn't really believe any of it. I don't know that he just can't not do it. But yet he's having a breakdown on YouTube and still manages to throw to the fucking ad he needs help. You know, maybe it's like a muscle memory at this point. You know, it's reflexive. And I really do wonder because I I've heard a lot
of allegations that he's an alcoholic. He will, you will run into people around him. He definitely drinks, and sometimes because he's been drunk on his show and on videos he's posted a number of times. So it's possible that he's a problem drinker. It's possibly as another drug problem. And if that's the case, I do wonder how much of his degeneration is just the fact that he's been
fucking taking a shipload of meth or whatever. I don't know what, But like you, you watch some of these videos and it's like, if he's sober during this, which he does claim to be sober in that shirtless wandering around in the winter video, if he's sober, there's something profound going on in him. I mean, if there was a video of me behaving this way on the internet, like I would not want that out in the world. Oh good God, no, thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah.
So in the courtroom, because they played that video for the court, um, it was one of the few videos the judge allowed to be played. And I should note that after the point at which we stopped, he continues standing around in his underwear and ranting for five more minutes. Bobby Newman, a lawyer for Kelly Jones, stated to the court afterwards, he just takes his clothes off, and I'm I'm gonna guess that was the way that he expressed that I only have it type, but I'm gonna guess
it's he just stay his clothes off. That's that's Alex Jones. That's what he did. I just picture the people like staying up late into the night agonizing about how to justify this, or like going through various pieces of jurisprudence and then just saying, you know what, we're gonna have to lose this battle if we want to win this war. So, psychologist Alyssa Sherry, who was the case manager for the Jones divorce, confirmed in court that Alex Jones has been
diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. So this is not an allegation, uh. She says that he has sought help for it. She also says that she has seen Alex remove his shirt in front of his children during a therapy session. She quote didn't remember the context in which he stripped, but noted that it was quote a rare thing to happen in a therapy session, which would I would say, So
that's that's that's reasonable thing to say. Maybe he's going crazy because we keep asking him to wear clothes, like, maybe there's some sort of he's he's trying to let the sanity into his pores and that's why he keeps stripping when the crazy hits hardest. Oh god, yeah, maybe maybe, maybe so. Jones's ex wife's lawyers accused him of being as crazy off camera as he is on camera. They also accused him of trying to turn his children against their mother and alleged that he quote intends to unmesh
the children in his business. Jones in return, testified that his fourteen year old son has quote done some great reports for us. So we're gonna listen to one of those reports that his child has done. It's titled Alex Jones's Son Challenges David Hogg to a gun debate. So clearly Alex wanted to attack the Parkland kids, in particularly David Hogg, but knew that forty four year old, shirtless Alex Jones ranting to go children would not play well,
so he had his own teenager do a video. We're going to play a small selection from that because it is pretty embarrassing. It is admitted they want to distrom the American people, just as they have done with so many rough regimes in the past. Hitler, stalin Mouth, North Korea. Do you think those places Do you think those corrupt leaders allowed their citizens to have guns? Do you think that the Jews were able to protect themselves when Hitler
put them in concentration camps? No, they were disarmed and that's why they were enslaved. Really, first of all, he's doing the Alex Jones voice already. Yeah, yeah, And he looks and he's got like he's got this just staring into the void look on his face. This like indoctrinated look at his face. It looks like very chilling looking a fundamentalist kid who has been stuck at camp for too long, you know what I mean, Like there's a
there's a parenting quality. Yeah, and I have no reason to question his wife when she's worries for her son, because I'm worried for that kid. A fourteen year old should not be looking like that, or talking like that, or be put on a camera in front of millions of people saying those things. He's fourteen. It's just gross. It's really really gross and scary. So you might have expected Alex Jones to be on his best behavior during
the epic court battle over his children's custody. You know, if someone's legal case rest entirely on the claim that they're just an actor playing a crazy guy and not really crazy themselves, maybe that person shouldn't do crazy, unhinged things in the middle of their court case. That would make sense, right, like good logic, solid strategy. Right. Alex Jones took a different tact. Midway through the trial. He published a video on Info Wars Live titled Alex Jones
responds to Sandy Hook Vampire. Sadly, this video appears to have been scrubbed from the Internet, so I'm going to read Rolling Stones summary of what it included. Instead of ranting about unanswered questions around the mass shooting, he showed scenes from the nineteen seventy three American science fiction movies Soilent Green, and talked about his teenage sex life. So here we go. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, So I have
a question. They said that he might be a problem drinker and spend a lot of time on camera or in public inebriated. Was there anything Did you see anything about him possibly being drunk or inebriated during the trial or during the hearing. Rather, I did not run into any evidence of that. I think it's entirely possible, but I don't know. Certainly, I haven't read read anyone alleging that he was drunk during the trial. They didn't play a video during the trial of a drunk Alex Jones
talking about his desire to piss on a tree. And I'll defend him on that because I've spent there. Absolutely, I've spent a lot of my life drunk and paying on trees. And it's a noble, noble way to spend your time. Yeah, just don't get caught. Don't get caught, or do it in the woods where it's fine to pay on everything. That's the joy of the woods, which is why I think Alex is drawn to the woods. Yeah,
at least crazy thing about him. Okay. So at one point during the trial, Kelly Jones took the stand and laid out her accusations against her ex husband. She claimed that Alex was a quote angry, volatile, hateful person who regularly went on racist, homophobic, and anti women rants. She also said that their children had begun to pair it his beliefs. She said that she heard her fourteen year old son say I hate women, and their twelve year
old daughters say women shouldn't be judges. Kelly warned presumably the entire world that quote they are morphing into him. Yes, but that that is so evident, and that click you played, I mean, it's just it looks like a little mini Alex Jones. It's he's trained a second one, which means that, like our fucking grandkids, will probably be dealing with a crazy person last named Joan Shirtless on Info Wars screaming about the globalists, or maybe not, depending on how the
as this podcast, I will see um. But yeah, that scares the hell out of me. The idea that this man is allowed to influence the lives of children is horrifying. It's just more apparent though with his own children, because he's able to legally exert you know, physical influence over there. But I think this leads to a larger quat gien which is difficult to answer. How many other children are being influenced? And it's not as if it's difficult for
a twelve year old to find him on YouTube? No, And in fact, when I was a young teenage, like fifteen, fourteen or fifteen, I ran into Alex Jones stuff on the Internet all the time and thought it was like I thought it was funny, but I watched a bunch of his stuff as a kid, um, and who knows. I mean, I do think that the globalists are poisoning our water and that the only way to get rid of the toxins that they put into our water is
to buy the new Bastard's pod. I had nine shield protection potion, which again I will mail you if you pay pal Me forty three dollars it'll it'll come in a brown envelope. That's just just a pile of pills, you know what I am sold. Yes, PayPal Me money and I will mail you pills. And okay, let's get back to Alex Jones Jones's ex wife, Kelly, complained that the public and controversial nature of her husband's work put
she in her children in danger. She brought up a tweeted death threat Alex received in April of two thousand seventeen, which had threatened death to Alex, his children, and Info Wars staff. So yeah. She basically claimed that because he's so prominent and so controversial in involving their children, that he's putting them in danger, which again seems fair. Uh. In the end, the court seems to have sided with her.
The couple remained joint managing conservators, so neither of them has full custody, but his wife gained the ability to designate the primary residence of the children, which is a big win and i this will continue to be relitigated. I'm sure they will be back in court numerous times before their kids are eighteen. So the last year and a half or so of Alex's life has, as you probably guess by now, involved a lot of courtroom time.
Alex was actually sued in the middle of his custody hearing by Chobani Yogurt of all people, because on April tenth, while in the middle of his trial, Alex published a video titled Idaho Yogurt Maker Caught Importing Migrant Rapists. The video itself is pretty boring. It starts two of Jones's lackeys rather than Alex himself. The video basically connects Chobani to a rape committed by some refugees and then spirals
into an incoherent rant. Jones doesn't show up until the end when he comes in to deliver a special report which, rather than being about refugees, is about iodine, which he sells. So we're gonna listen to a little bit of that. Off your family a favor and check out the importance of iodine for yourself. I think you're gonna be blown away, and whatever you do, support the broadcast to get a
bottle of survival shield Nason on on X two. Also consult your physician because have you been deficient in it or have other issues. It can maps dramatic effects. As for me and most folks I talked to, it's been a game changer in the positive column. But still consult your physician because iodine is no joke, because a key building block of the body, and if you haven't had it for a long time and suddenly have it. Some folks say they've experienced things like a detoxing effect and
things like that. You've got to have bottom. And so this is what he appends to the end of a video accusing Chobani of importing rapists to the United States. Chobani sued him, and again they sued him while he was in the middle of the custody hearing with his wife his ex wife, Um, when you showed us this video. One thing that really sticks out to me is that from an editing perspective, it looks like a hastily arranged
voiceover with just clips playing like it flashed. The two shots of him at the news desk, I guess at the war's news desk, but he's it's clearly from an earlier recording. So did he really just record a video for iodine? Yeah? I think he recorded, because that's how he does. It is like they're doing this other report that's supposedly a news story about the dangerous refugees Chobani is bringing into the United States, and then Alex makes it look like he's delivering breaking news, but instead of
he's just trying to sell you iodine. Oh wow. Remarkable. So after Chabanni sued Alex. He immediately put out another video, laughing at the company for daring to come after him. Uh. He claimed that he could back up all of the claims that he had made about rapes and TV beings bread by Chobani's refugee workers. But then in May he settled out of court with Chabani, paying them an undisclosed
sum and releasing this sweet, sweet dose of schadenfreude. And I'm overwhelmingly happy to present to all of you Alex Jones apologizing to Chobani Yogurt on the infull Wars twitter feed and YouTube channel regarding Shabani LLC that I now understand to be wrong. The tweets and video have now been retracted and will not be reposted on half of the full Wars. I regret that we miss Church Rise, Shabani It's employees, and the people of Twin Falls, Ottaho
the way we did well. Like that he's got he's got a shirt on, he's got a shirt on, he's reading copy. Clearly he I wonder how much money they pulled out of his hide and how much money less he had to pay as a result of apologizing publicly, but it's very It was a very clearly legally man Yeah, really a legal mandated apology just screaming. It sounds like his legal team probably also negotiated the language of the apology.
That's why I had to be explicit. And I bet he fought them for a while on whether or not he was going to wear a shirt during that. But oh yeah, He's like, look, I'll do it, but I gotta be greased up. Yeah, I want to get real greasy in my underwear. Can I strip while I apologize? Can I sell iodine shield while I am apologizing? I am shocked that there was no ad for Info Wars Life in that apology to Chabani, you would expect, right, Okay, No,
you absolutely would. I especially don't make these sorts of errors in my reporting. But I haven't been taking my supplements and it's making me crazy. I've just been eaten chili. On April seventeen, two thousand and eighteen, the families of several children who died in the Sandy Hook attack, including Lenny Postner and Veronica his ex wife, sued Alex Jones for more than a million dollars. Now we've already talked
about in our last podcast, Veronica and Lenny. Another parent last named Hesslin, was also part of this lawsuit because Info Wars Alex Jones claimed that he was lying about seeing a bullet hole in his child's head. Alex actually did a whole special report where they like attempted to prove that he couldn't have seen his child's dead body. Which, yeah, so these people all joined together in a big old
lawsuit against Info Wars. The suit on behalf of the Sandy Hook families came at the same time as another defamation suit. Marcel Fontaine sued Alex Jones for one million dollars because Alex had used his image on air and claimed that he was the Parkland shooter. He didn't even live in the state. I don't know if he'd ever even been to Florida. So two defamation suits drop at the same time, both for a million dollars, and in August, six more Sandy Hook families joined the lawsuit against August.
I think there's nine families currently suing him for his role in perpetuating that particular conspiracy theory and court lawyers for the Sandy Hook families played an episode of Info Wars where Alex Jones broadcast maps to the Posner home using audible gasps from the jury. So Alex actually doxed people like claimed that they had faked their child's murder, and then told his viewers how to find their home. Alex's lawyer argued that this did not count as defamation.
Quote what does it count as well? You're sorry, Alex's lawyer. I'm on the edge of my seat here, man. Maybe it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but it's not defamation. That is rhetoric hyperbole at its core. O. Come then, I do imagine that as like the country lawyer. Maybe it's fringe speech, maybe it's dangerous speech, but defamation declare there is rhetorical hyperbole at its core, rhetorical hyperbole. Here's a video of Alex Jones talking about the Sandy Hook parents.
Y'all tell me if you think this seems like defamation. Billy off and watched him go around the corner and he never came back, all because of the guns. Won't you just turn your guns in from my son? Why did you do it to him? Gun? Own this listen, I didn't kill your kids. The truth is they've had national polls were upwards of half of Americans don't believe Sandy Hook because they don't believe a word the mainstream media says, we've sent reporters up there, man, and that
place is like children in the corner or something. I mean, it is freaking weird. And then the weird videos of reported parents of kids laughing, and all of a sudden they do the high preventilating to cry, to go on TV. All I know is something's going on, and you don't like us looking at it. You don't like us questioning you the father, He's to clarified that n b C. He's to clarified, clarify because the corner said none of the parents were allowed to touch the kids or see
the kids, and maybe they meaning at the school. I'm sure later maybe the parents saw their children. So um Alex will claim and still claims that he never accused the families of faking their children's deaths. You can see where he has a legal leg to stand on there, because he said study show upwards of half Americans don't believe anything happened at San Diego because they don't believe
the mainstream media. But then he immediately goes into talking about what we've sent reporters up there, and it seems it's spooky. It seems like a ghost town. Like I would say that that meets my personal threshold for defamation of these families for for damn sure. Um. I don't know what the law is gonna wind up saying, but it seems pretty defamatory to me. So this is still in motion. This is still being adjudicated. Yeah, this is
still in motion. It is still going on. Jones's lawyers at one point asked the judge to throw out the case and tried to sue Ronick and Lenny for a hundred thousand dollars in court fees. Now, Alex did rescind that attempt to get them to pay his court fees, and he, in an interview with a journalist, was very angry that the news has not reported more on the fact that he decided not to countersue the families that
he defamed. His lawyer's request to have the case thrown out was denied in August, So we're still waiting to see where all of these cards are gonna fall. I know of at least three defamation cases going on against Alex Jones right now, though, so he is concurrently involved in at least three defamation suits. It might be more like five. Like a lot of people are suing him
right now. Um and whatever these cases wind up costing him, if anything, you know, he might win, but that cost will be in addition to the millions of dollars he's spent on custody battles with his wife. I assume he's spending millions of dollars in all of these lawsuits. I don't know what he paid to Chibani, or if he paid them, but I think it's fairly safe to say that Alex Jones is hemorrhage in cash right now, as
is his Info Wars operation. Like he is. He's hired top dollar lawyers, and he's involved this is I think like something seven or eight different lawsuits this year, Like that is enough to drain even a very rich man, which Alex is. All of which makes this a very bad time for him to suddenly get cut off from every single major social media platform. Over the course of August, he was banned by Facebook and YouTube, and the iTunes
app store, among other platforms. The bands caused an initial surge in traffic to infull Wars as people flocked there to see Jones's increasingly unhinged reactions to the banning. This caused him to celebrate and say, quote, the more I am persecuted, the stronger I get. It backfired. But that doesn't seem to be true. Here's what The New York
Times wrote on September four, two thousand eighteen. In the three weeks before the August six bands in full Wars had an daily average of nearly one point four million visits to its website and views of videos posted by its main YouTube and Facebook pages. But quote, in the three months afterward, its audience fell by roughly half to about seven hundred and fifteen thousand site visits and video views, according to the analysis. So it's possible that his traffic
is down by half or more than half right now. Um, Because on September five, while lawmakers talked to Jack Dorsey, the head of Twitter, Alex Jones showed up in Washington, d C. His cunning plan end was to scream at everybody, including Jack Dorsey, the man who had, by some accounts, personally intervened to stop him from being banned by Twitter. Alex yelled at a lot of people during that trip, though,
and one of those people was CNNs Oliver Darcy. Now, Darcy had documented all of the ways Alex Jones and info Wars had violated YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter's codes of conduct. Uh. He was a big part of the fact that Alex had been d platformed by everyone but Twitter. At this point, info Wars calls Darcy quote the architect of d platform and conservatives. Jones confronted Darcy during his DC tripped and streamed the whole encounter on periscope, which is owned by Twitter.
Here is just a clip of that so you can get an idea of what was going on here, the decisions for the mess because you don't even respond, because we're just scum. You have him with no viewers, no followers. Everyone can't stand you, no matter you could shut everyone down on earth. No one will like you. You understand that he'll never have builties of relatiers, of fans and followers. You'll never have people that love you. Do you have
any else you're like you? You don't. You are a dishonorable liar who would never even dare have me on your little tiny shows when you instilledor called me a virus. You are a virus to America and freedom. You are authoritarianism. Just look in those eyes. What I wanna? I really want to throw some props Darcy's way, because there are other videos you can find, even from DC of him
arguing with people on the street. A couple of women confront him at one point and they get into a screaming argument with him, and they do the wrong thing, which is engaged with him. Because Alex's thing, whenever he's in person, he's going to throw out as many different, very specific accusations as possible because that's the way his mind works. Because then you're going to lose. If you try to address one thing, he's going to attack you
for not addressing the other things. If you try to address everything, he's just gonna keep throwing more stuff at you until you don't have a response, which makes it look like you've lost. Darcy just doesn't say anything until there's a break and when he and then he will just say something like do you have anything else to say? Alex always good to see you, Alex like he really understands this guy and how to defying him. Um, And it turns out that that rant against Darcy was well,
it's debatable. Some people will say that the fact that he yelled at Jack Dorsey is why Dorsey pulled him from Twitter. The official reason that Jones got pulled from Twitter is because what he did to Oliver Darcy on periscope was abusive and bullying and in violation of Twitter's rules of conduct. So Alex Jones was banned from Twitter
the very next day. Uh. It is impossible to know where the future will take Alex Jones and Info Wars, but I do think it's important for posterity's sake that we take a look at how he reacted to the fact that he has now been thoroughly d platformed from polite digital society. Here's a clip from his first post ban episode. He starts the clip wearing a donkey mask, which he rips off to reveal the reptilian mask underneath. So he's wearing two masks at the start of this video. H.
That's just beautiful. H It's a long clip, but my god, it's full of stars and we we just have to play it. But no one's going to see that broadcast. Alex Jones you today because it's been deleted, and you see you've learned and you've learned very very well that only the Internet matters, not UHF, not VHF, nothing, Only our control matters. And so now you're being taught to submit.
So let me tell you about Operations six six Sixation six six is a fake donkey head on the whole Aloration freed, she Destroyal I'm just a donkey on the sixth obviously banded four wars from twenty seven platforms, and now September six we band you from Twitter, and on October six, we will destroy your president and set fire to every major US city and have our communist forces launched our attack while Silicon Valley sits in their bunkers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean in New Zealand.
Operation six six six the number of the Beast hell and fire raining free. Soon the West Room fall. One eight billion Islamis has trained in Satanism are ready to invade the China system road span. The Third World will collapse into Europe and America domination will be complete. I was wrong. That's not the video where he rips off his donkey masks to reveal an alien mask. That is a different video where he wears a job. There's just so many. I love this though, because first off, that's
quality entertainment. That is quality entertainment. He's nothing if not a showman. That's that's damna. And the way he's moving around and being so arch with his statements really reminds me of um villains from old cartoons like Cobra Commander or um. But there's a yeah exactly, Yeah, there is a strong Cobra Commander vibe to Alex Jones in that video that is like he has gone off of the deep end and is digging his own swimming pool now,
like it's yeah, for sure. Something else. I love that line one point three billion Islamist trained in Satanism are on the border or something like that, because they were like, we need as many as Lamis as as we can get, but make sure they're trained in Satanism. Yeah. I don't have asked this one, although that's almost woke for Alex Jones because he is claiming that they have to be trained in the Satanism, which you know, for Alex Jones
that's progressive. So maybe he's turned a corner. No, no, so, do we have any idea what's going to happen to this guy? No idea Um, it's still too soon after the bands to know what kind of financial impact there's going to really be for the fact that he's been DP platformed, so over the next couple of months, I'm sure a lot of people will be watching to see what happens to his traffic, you know, what happens to
the spread of his ideas. I did watch his most recent big broadcast, and he makes a big point of like there's a video out right now. The Daily Wire posted it first, but then Jones grabbed it of like this rancher put up a camera on his land for like two and a half years and he filmed people crossing the border, and so like Alex has turned like an army is crossing the boy. Yeah, but he he makes polls to like put this on your Twitter page. You know, we can't tweet this, but you can, is
what he says. And I suspect we're going to see a lot of that as him being like I can't put this on Facebook, but you can. Um, So yeah to action. Yeah, He's going to keep trying, even if he has to go back to being the guy, you know, attacking Heraldo Rivera and screaming on a bullhorn. While someone else broadcast. I don't think he's going to stop doing what he's done his entire adult life at this point. So, yeah, was that DC trip the same trip wherein he accosted
Marco Rubio, No, it was the same trip. He said he had a busy day. So Alex Jones, that's it. That's all I got for you, guys. What did you have you learned? I'm exhausted, Robert, that was that was a it was a wild ride you just took us on. And that was the first of all. This is the single most hours of podcasting I think either one of us have done in a single day. Yeah, but um, I gotta get a donkey mask. Yeah, we all need
donkey masks. I think that's fair. I feel that insane right now that I would totally wear a donkey mask for the rest of the night, just like you know, just out around the town, but with a shirt on. And would people ask what it's for, Just say operations six City six six run cackling. Then you can rip your shirt off and run cackling into the night and have a nice night bath. I need one of those Hulkyogan like Haraway shirts that's like made of like orth.
I'm surprised he doesn't have one of those. You'd think he'd have a closet full of them by now. Man, he's very he's very restrained when he's stripping for the FBI. You know that is the most restrained stripping for the FBI I've ever seen. For sure. I think he's trying to make it a little erotic. Well, Robert, thank you for breaking our brains and having us on your bonkers three part series on Alex Jones. Well, yeah, thank you
for letting us do this. Man, Well, thank you both for enduring this with me, and thank you listeners for enduring this with us. Although you've taken these I hope three days apart from each other, as opposed to all at once, which is a lot of Alex Jones to take. Yeah, I need, I need all the drinks. Yeah, Like now I'm going to drink heavily and watch the opposite of Alex Jones after this, which is Mr Mr Rogers. Maybe Bob Ross perhaps, maybe like the Great British Baking Show,
just not Captain Kangaroo. That guy is a creepy. Although if I IF I, IF I, IF I watch Bob Ross in my current mind state. I'm sure I'm gonna see gunmen behind the happy little trees, but too much. Maybe maybe just go walk the streets of your neighborhood for a while and trying to look at the stars or something. I don't know, man, you know what, you know what I think I'm gonna do. I'm gonna find a couple of cameramen, I'm gonna strip naked, and I'm
gonna go bathe in the night. That does seem like a good idea, you know, night bathing deserves a quiet night, night bathing. Thank you for the r M reference. You're very welcome. Yeah, and uh, thank you all for listening. Uh no, Benjamin, you guys wanna wanna plug your plug doubles before we uh, we'll do the we'll do the quick and dirty version. God knows we need to. We've got stuff they don't want you to know, conspiracy theories with critical thinking. Uh, it's it's a it's a it's
it's a full package. You can turn back now, or you can find every episode we've ever done on our website. Stuff they don't want, you know, dot Com or Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We also have a also have a great show called Ridiculous History that Nolan I host that covers all the strange, bizarre, unusual, and sometimes hilarious people, places and events throughout the span of human civilization. It's true and you can find that on all the places
too at Ridiculous History. And God, Robert, this has been a blast, slash and utter nightmare. Um and I want to thank you for putting me through this. I really feel like what does not kill you makes you stronger. This is I've never felt that more than I feel right now. I thought you were going to say, what doesn't kill you makes you bonkers. That's what I'm gonna go with. And uh, I'd like to make an Alex Jones. Maybe we should all make Alex Jones T shirt ideas
on our shows. It's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, so send us your suggestions. Yeah. I think I'm just gonna write Alex Jones was murdered and sharpie on a white T shirt and walk around Hollywood Boulevard for a little while, just see what what kind of reaction that gets? You know, you know what I'm going to conjecture, not much of one. What if I write Custody Wars dot Com on the back. There you go. Now we're cooking. Now we're working, all right.
I'm Robert Evans. This has been Behind the Bastards. Uh. You can find me on Twitter at I right okay. You can find my fun book about Experimenting with Dangerous Ancient drugs, A Brief History of Ice on Amazon. You can find this website, all of our sources, all of these terrible video clips on behind the Bastards dot com. You can find this podcast on Twitter and Instagram at at bastards pod. Uh. So, I hope you all have enjoyed this little nightmare. And uh, by our T shirts
on t public. We don't have any Alex Jones shirts yet, but I'm sure we'll cook something up, you know. Send us a message on Twitter if you have a good T shirt idea featuring America's craziest donkey headed shirtless man. Bye for now. H
