Also media.
Oh boy, it's Behind the Bastard's the podcast that you listen to if you're listening to it. If you don't listen to it, then you don't know what I'm saying. So you know what, I hate you, but I don't hate my guest for this episode, Courtney Kosak.
Courtney, Hello, so good to see you again.
Good to see you again. Have you been since last we uh last we talked about somebody who was really bad?
Yeah, well, lots of bad people that I hear about every day in the news.
But I have been like.
Deep into working on my book, which is just full of people from my past.
Oh That's what I've.
Been working hopefully not the worst people in all of history. I have you only Yeah, I mean you did have that longtime friendship with momark Adaffi, but you know, tragically that ended badly. We all did. Look, he was cool at one point in time, he was not. So Courtney, you got something to plug you want to you want to drop that before we get into our our bastard for this episode, because we got a weird one for you this week.
Well, yeah, I.
Just wanna My My book is called Girl Gone Wild. It is my coming of age memoir. It's my debut.
Yeah.
I'm so tempted to just ask you a million questions about your book writing process, but we'll save that for another podcast.
It's bad.
Yeah, I'm just so excited that it's going to be out in March.
It's available for pre order and it's all thrilling.
Yeah, Courtney. Uh So, speaking of my process, my process for writing a book is mostly to get delayed writing that book so I can continue writing podcasts. And this week, the podcast that I have written in lieu of finishing my book, uh is about is a weird one, right, This is normally a podcast but the worst people in all of history, And we have a bastard for this week, and our bastard for this week is a really interesting guy. His name is Steve Hatville, and he was recently made
Special Advisor to the Trump Administration for Pandemic Preparedness. He has some relevant background here. He spent most of his career as a pathologist and a biological weapons expert, training US soldiers and how to deal with biological weapons, specifically weaponized viruses, And like a lot of people in Trump world, he's recently gotten into what we might call the alt science side of medicine. In twenty twenty, he advised the first Trump administration on COVID nineteen and became a major
advocate of hydroxychloroquin as a treatment. Yeah, he's one of those guys. And in an article a couple of years ago, The Washington Post cited his statements as evidence supporting the idea that the Trump administration neglected pandemic response after losing
the twenty twenty election. Quote Stephen Hatfield, a virologist who advised White House Trade advisor Peter Navarro, said he was intimately involved in the pandemic response, repeatedly described in the emails how stuff took precedence over a coronavirus even as the outbreak surged more than two hundred and fifty thousand
new coronavirus cases per day in January. Now, with the election so close, COVID is taking a back seat, yet the disease is rearing its ugly head again, Hatfill wrote to an outside colleague in October of twenty twenty, following
the election, which was disputed by Trump. Hatfel wrote another email that he personally shifted over to the election fraud investigation in November, which says a lot about like the how the people close to Trump viewed themselves was like, well, I'm a virologist and a pathologist, but I'll get involved in the election frauds. I guess that makes sense for me to be working on during a pandemic more than the pandemic, right.
The priority. I can't believe that's the priority.
No, everybody's focusing on the election. Now. I don't care that you're the virus guy and there's a virus. Get on the elections.
Hit all hands on tech, yeah.
And true true to form. During that brief window, Hatfield traveled to Arizona to help organize a plan B for Trump's legal fight to retain the presidency. When a colleague email him on January fifth, task why he wasn't fixing the virus, he replied that the election thing had gotten out of control, and I go where my team goes, which at that point was to contest results in Nevada. Now, when it comes to this stuff, I have no trouble condemning hat Phil. I don't like him. I think he's
a bad person. I think he's done bad things for
the world. Here's where it gets weird. He's kind of the protagonist of our story this week, right, because this is we're going to be telling a story, and we're gonna be telling two stories, really, and in both of these stories, the bad guy is the FBI, and in more broadly, our entire justice system, right, and the media and how the media interacts with the justice system around high profile cases, you know, when people are desperately trying to figure out who did it and at a point
at which you know, the cops decide literally we need to throw some name out there, and the media decides content, content, content, right, Like that's the evil here. We're talking about two different tear attacks where innocent people were accused by both law enforcement and journalists of having done terrible things. And hat Phil is one of those innocent people. So he's like a bad person, but he's also really unique among members of the Trump administration and that all of them hate
the media. Hatfil is a really good reason to hate the mainstream media. They did him so fucking dirty, and it's a very weird story for that reason.
In situation, they did him so dirty that.
We're about absolutely absolutely completely destroyed his life for years for no reason, like just based purely on bad police work and lazy reporting, like that's what happened here, and so kind of what we're talking about. In addition to the justice system sure doesn't work very well, does it.
Cops aren't very good at their jobs, are they. We're also telling a story of this is how law enforcement and the media kind of feeding off of each other created a month because the present day Steven hat Phil who was a member of the Trump administration, is created to a significant extent by how much this destroys his life and pisses him off, Like this really radicalizes him
in a major way. And so it's interesting to understand for that perspective too, because we are talking about a bad guy, but he's not the bad guy in the story we're telling, which I haven't done before. So I'm excited for this kind of episode.
I am so conflicted. I feel like you're doing me dirty a little bit. You're like, no, the Trump guy is the good guy.
Well he's not the good guy. Let's be really clear. Protagonist rightist is not mean good guy. Okay, yeah, but he's not. He's not the wronged person in his story. But we are telling two stories, and basically this week we're going to be talking about first the Olympic Park bombing which occurred at the nineteen ninety six Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia. Uh, and we're talking about the man who was wrong blamed
for that attack and how that happened. And then and this is where hatfil comes in, we're going to be talking about the two thousand and one anthrax attacks in the United States after nine to eleven, because hat Phil is the guy who gets blamed for that, right, And so that's what we're talking about this week, is how both of you because these are with similar cases and they are emblematic of similar problems that still exist within
law enforcement in the media to this day. Right, So that's what we're talking about.
Oh, I'm on the edge of my seat. Let's do it.
Yeah, Yeah, this'll be fun. So for our first again, I just started. If I talking about hat Phil, we're not going to talk about him anymore in this episode because the guy who gets wrongfully accused of the Olympic Park bombings is not Steve hat Phil. He is a guy who was a cop for a brief span of time, although not he was not really a cop either, Like he's we'll talk. He's a wanna bee cop who gets to be it briefly and then is a secure, ready guard at the time. All this happens when he actually
does some an act of legitimate heroism. And his name was Richard Jewel. Richard Allensworth Jewel was born Richard White on December seventeenth, nineteen sixty two, in Danville, Virginia. His father worked at Chevy and his mom helped. She was like an insurance claim adjuster type pursuit. She had some job in that hole. But I don't think she was an adjuster, but she was involved in the whole insurance claim thing. Something to do with insurance. I don't know.
You don't come to this to hear about what people's moms did for the insurance industry. They divorced when he was four, and she remarried a guy named John Jewell who adopted Richard, and that's why he's known as Richard Jewel. Most of his life is not very interesting. The most important thing to know about Richard Jewel, Sophie will pull up a picture of him. This guy is like his phenotype is cop right, like he was born with cop in his blood. Like you just take one look at
this man. He grows the kind of mustache that if you were, like, if you're biologically a cop, your body just produces that mustache, right, Like, I don't know that he ever had a choice in not wanting to be a cop, Like in terms of his character and personality, that's what he always wanted to be for the time he's a child. Richard idolizes the police. This is the
only job he wants to do. Right, You're looking at the picture like that, that is a cop mustache, right, There's just simply no other way to describe it.
He's like a Chicago cop.
He's like a yes, yes, strong Chicago cop vibes. That's what he was born to do, and he's never gonna quite get there, tragically for Richard, so he idolizes the police. This is the only job he ever wants. He's one of these people who grows up believing the police are heroes surrounded on all sides by dangerous criminals, holding up society and protecting the innocence through sheer force of will and commitment to the law. So you know, he's pretty propagandaist, right,
Like a lot of us were his kids. And when he grows up. You know, he doesn't immediately get into law enforcement. His first job, I think is working at and eventually managing a Tcby yogurt shop. But he shows some promise that like, oh, maybe this guy, you know, maybe this law enforcements what he's actually going to do, because while a manager of the store, he stops a robbery in progress, which you're not supposed to do when
managing a retail store or a food store. You're not supposed to do that in any store, stop a robbery. But he does. I don't have any more details than that, but it gets him written up in local papers and it fuels his desire to get behind a badge. He's like, oh man, this is what I made for, Like, look at what I was able to do behind the desk at a Tcby treaty shop. Give me a gun and a badge. I'll really fox some shit up.
If I can do this with ice cream. You gotta wait and see what I got.
Yeah, exactly. It's amazing. They didn't just hand him a gun and a badge right then and there.
And Dan Clint East would make a movie about this guy.
Yes he did, Yes he did. Okay, and we'll talk about that because it's gross.
Yeah.
When he's twenty two, Jewel got hired to Claire for the Small Business Association, where he met and befriended a lawyer named Watson Bryant. He's good at the job, and he earns a reputation for being always on the ball. He's very on time, he's very outgoing, always puts in one hundred and ten percent. But he got placed there through a temp agency, and when the contract ran up, he took a job that brought him closer to his dream career, working as a detective for the Marriott hotel chain.
I did not realize. I thought that was a joke in American Dad. I didn't know hotels had detectives, but apparently they do.
That's the perfect job really for him. He should have kind of stopped there.
I think, I don't want to be mean to the hotel detectives at the world, But imagine going on on a date and like, so what are you hear? Like, well, I'm a hotel detective. A hotel detective, huh are you like trying to figure out like what the stain was on the mattress? Was like it's come with the yeah, yeah, just looking at up, just walking into everyone with a black light going yep, yeah, huh, yep. More people coming every day. I think somebody did cocaine off that table.
Maybe I don't know, it could be more. Come In nineteen ninety, he gets hired as a jailer for the Habersham County Sheriff's Office. Right now, this is kind of a do nothing job. You're sitting in a small, smoke filled room occasionally dealing with the restees. It's not what he wants to be doing. He doesn't like it, but
it's his foot in the door. And I guess in the nineties it was maybe there were enough the cops weren't like today, he would just find some police department in a big city that is offering like twenty thousand dollars signing bonuses because there's not enough cops because people
don't want to do that job anyway. But I guess back then you had to really like work your way up to being a cop, right like, for whatever reason, I don't know, maybe it's just where he lives in Georgia, or maybe he's just not doesn't I don't know what. Maybe he doesn't go at Maybe there was an easier way to do it than he just didn't do I don't know yet, but yeah, he becomes a cop through
working at the jail, right. Like, he does this for like a year or so, and it's one of the you can tell it's frustrating him because like working at the jail, he's almost a real cop. He could like, he could taste it, right, he could taste the authority, and so he starts to get over eager. One of my sources for this episode is an epic long form article in Vanity Fair by Marie Britter, and she writes,
this is while he's still a jailer. Quote. He arrested a couple making too much noise in a hot tub in an apartment building where he did part time security work. He was arrested for impersonating an officer, and after pleading guilty to a lesser charge, was placed on probation on the condition that he seeks psychological counseling. You get to like, this guy wants to be a cop so bad it's kind of a problem, like man.
Turning him into a peeping tom.
First off, cops generally don't arrest people for being noisy in a hot tub. Even a cop is usually going to be like, hey, we got a noise complaint. Chill out right like this guy or just like busting in and arresting people. You have to imagine he had an illegally carried gun on him that he was just like these hot tub guys pull something on me. I'm just gonna blast him. We're being a little mean to Richard here. He is legitimately a hero in the end, but like,
this is funny. I'm sorry, this is just this is just funny, Richard. This is a stupid thing that you did. He's dead now, it's fine. It doesn't care. So if a guy is so eager to be a cop that the instant he gets a job, sitting in the same room as a cop, he illegally arrests a couple for a noise complaint. That might be a warning sign not to give that person a badge and gun. But somehow Jewel worked his way up to being hired as a deputy. In nineteen ninety one, he goes to the North in America.
I love it. Let's go and it's one of those yeah. Well, he goes to Northeast Georgia political Academy. He does well. He graduates in the upper twenty five percent of the class. He said that he read the Georgia Legal Code for fun, like he's obsessed with cop stuff. So I have no doubt that when it came to the in class portions of it, he aced everything right, like he's been prepped for this forever.
I don't know how he did the obstacle.
Course that might have been harder for him. Although this is Georgia, you know, we're not talking about a lot of cops who are like fucking superstar athletes in a rural Georgia sheriff's department. So he becomes a real cop. He now has a real badge and a real gun, and he is ready to get out there and fight
crime a las. Poor Richard is about to run face to face into a reality that it's I don't know if he ever really fully accepts it, right, But this is like the great tragedy of Richard jules life, which is that he wants to be a cop. And I say, this is a guy who doesn't want there to be cops. He wants to be a cop for what you would say are the right reasons. He cares deeply about the law. He thinks it is important to abide by the law, and he wants to protect people. Check right, that's why
he wants to become a cop. Police And this is not me the left wing radical saying this. The Supreme Court has ruled police have no duty to protect people, and it is a fact, an undeniable fact, that police all over the country break the law regularly, both in pursuing suspects and lying on the stand about them and falsifying evidence and planting evidence and using physical force that they are not legally supposed to be using. Cops break the law constantly. They are not there to protect people,
and they do not uphold the law. These are facts, right, Robert.
Did you ever have in your young Republican days did you ever did you think ops were good?
I'm just curious, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I wanted to be a cop when I was a kid, right, And I wanted to be a cop for the worst possible reason, because at eighteen, if you become a cop, you get to carry a gun while off duty, and normally take you have to wait until you're twenty one to carry a gun, which is the wrong reason to become a cop, right, that's why you shouldn't let eighteen year olds become cops, which they almost did.
You'd be the biggest crime committing cop we know.
And when I was when I wanted to be a cop, which is again when I was like eighteen nineteen, part of why it was possible for me to have become one is that Dallas had just had to can a shitload of officers over a massive fake drug scandal, so like recruitment was down and they were desperate for Peter right, you could not reason. Yeah, I don't think I would
have made it long. Like literally, within like a month or two of making my first calls for the police and like setting up that starting that process, I started experimenting with drugs. And as soon as I took two CI, I was like, oh, I'm not going to be a cop. Oh what the fuck? Was I thinking? Absolutely not? Are you kidding me?
No?
No, no, no, no no. I want to do drugs. That sounds way better than being a cop. And it was for about ten years, and then at a certain point you have to do less drugs.
Heard, Yeah, that's.
My that's my my dare class for kids.
Kids.
I'm looking I'm looking at this room, I'm seeing a lot of seventeen and eighteen year old You guys got a solid twelve years before you got to curtail your drug use, you know, so really enjoy this time. You know, test everything for fitanyl, but other than that, go wild. You know, whatever you can fit in your body, throw it in there. Don't ask questions, Just do it and
run off into the sunset. It'll be great when you're twenty nine, and maybe start to start pulling back on that throttle, you know, hit the brakes.
What Jesus Christ.
I always give our child listeners good advice.
Nonk, no fintanyl, no trink.
No finanyl, no trank. Maybe try crocodile. If you get a chance to try that weird Russian drug that melts your skin, try that shit. You know it sounds dope. I never got to do crocodile. I regret it now that I'm in my sober era. Gas station sober and maybe they'll by gas station crocodile. Anyway, we were talking about how cops break the law lot and anyway, again, I have my opinions on this that are grounded in fact, but I also want to like cite facts and if
I make a statement like cops break the law constantly. So. A twenty sixteen study by researchers at Bowling Green University looked into nearly six seven thousand cases of police officers being arrested and charged with crimes between two thousand and five and twenty eleven. They concluded, quote, police crimes are not uncommon now. One of the things this study notes is that only about a thousand officers are arrested each year in charge with crimes. But there are a lot
more cops than that. Commit number one cops, it's very easy for them to get away with crimes. The number of cops who could break the law and don't get caught because they're cops is exponentially higher than a thousand. But there's also a lot of cases, and there's documentation of how often there's interviews with other cops that'll talk about this, of police breaking the law and having it
swept under the rug. Right. Well, they'll get a warning from you know, maybe someone above them or something, but like, look, you know, just get your car home. I know you're drunk tonight. Because you're another officer, I'll let you off you as a professional courtesy you know, protector own again, there's data on this. It happens constantly. That said, the data on win cops do actually fuck up enough to get charged with crimes, the data on what crimes they
commit is really interesting. From a summary in a Huffington Post article by Matt Ferner, quote, the alleged crimes cops whore arrested fore most frequently were simple assault, driving under the influence, and aggravated assault. Altogether, those crimes made up
one third of the total cases. There were also a considerable number of sex crime cases, including forcible fondling and forcible rape, about ten percent of all cases, and disturbingly, the sex crimes included some victims under the age of eighteen. If you are looking at the vast majority of child sex abuse is people who are related to the child.
When you move out from people who are directly related to the child, the most common people who abuse kids are like members of the clergy, medical professionals, and police officers, not in that order necessarily, but yes, because they have access and because they have plug you know.
Yeah, so wait, sex crimes and what was the first thing you said.
Oh, driving under the influence, cops drive drunk all the fuck of time, and some assault just hitting, beating people, beating spouses. You know, fifty percent of police officer homes have domestic violence in them.
Do you remember that South Dakota? Was he a cop or a politician.
Or sin something like that, which one.
Just a couple of years ago.
But he fucking killed a guy and then drove home, and that they I mean, I think he got away with it.
Well good for him. You know we all, we all would hope to be able to get away with at least one murder in our lives. I can't blame a man for that, for just wanting to kill a guy and get away with its most normal thing to want. I don't know why I said that. So, the most common crime committed by police is also the one they get arrested for the least often, which is lying under oath. This is so common that cops have a term for
it called testa lying. And if you know, I have a friend who became a lawyer and was briefly a prosecutor and stopped being a prosecutor because he was like, I just kept going. I kept sitting down with police officers and saying, are you sure this is accurate, and then when it came to trial it would be like they lied, right, Like that happened. That happened so many times that I put my ass out there as a prosecutor because a cop told me no, this is definitely
what happened, and they were fucking lying. It happens all the goddamn time. And again there's documentation about this. This is such a problem that in New York City prosecutors have a secret database of untrustworthy cops. Again, a secret database of cops that like, yeah, we if you're a prosecutor, don't let this guy up on the stand if he's telling you something it's like full of shit. But also,
we're not going to report this anywhere. More broadly, in the nineteen nineties, the Malin Commission carried out a sweeping investigation of the NYPD, and it found that perjury and falsification of records were routine by police and quote the most common form of police corruption. You might want to note that those two crimes tend to be committed in
order to get a conviction against a defendant. Right, if you are lying under oath and falsifying records, the most likely reason you were doing that is because there was a crime and you're pretty sure the guy you got did it, but you can't prove it, so you're lying to make it easier to secure a conviction. Right, Or you don't know the guy did it, or think the guy did it, you just hate him because you're a bigot, or you want to fuck his wife or whatever. Right,
and you're doing that, you know. But the most common crime committed by cops all over is lying under oath and falsifying records, and that those two things are generally done to get people convicted, right, Cops lie to get convictions.
I love how we go around saying like lying under oath is a felony, like your mail is a felony.
It's like, no, you can totally do those things.
I steal mail all the time, baby, but I don't keep it for myself. I hand it out to other people who don't have it off. Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. I take mail from those It's like it's me living out my Marxist praxis, you know, from each according to their ability to have a lot of mail in their mailbox to those without as much mail in their mailbox. I think that's what Marx was talking about, I didn't make it all the way through capital. I go through
all this. This is a bit of a digression from Richard Jewel, but it's important to note that the vast majority of criminal behavior inside our justice system is perpetrated by police officers, and not just police officers, but by people who are in the justice system who are attempting to get convictions and have to futz with the truth in order to secure conviction because the actual evidence isn't
strong enough. Right. That's an important point. And I know this has been a long digression, but I need to emphasize it a little further. So I'm going to read one quote from a very good Slate article by Mark Stern titled the police lie all the time? Can anything stop them? Quote? When NYPD officers are accused of illegal behavior, the department itself usually investigates, then conceals its findings in imposes at worst a slap on the risk like brief
paid leave. Prosecutors could separately investigate, but they have little incentive to question an officer's story. If they know an officer is lying, they cannot legally rely on his testimony. If they remain in the dark, they can still use his perjury to clinch a conviction. Moreover, prosecutors and police work together to put defendants behind bars, developing a team mentality that prevents prosecutors from scrutinizing officers testimony with appropriate skepticism.
As long as officers lies cannot be proved false, prosecutors have little reason to question their account of events. As a New York assistant district attorney told the Maulin Commission, taking money is considered dirty, but perjury for the sake of an arrest is accepted. It's become more casual. Great, this takes us to Richard Jewel. But first, you know what Richard Jewel would have loved if he were alive to see this.
Ads.
He would have loved ads supporting podcasts. That would have been Richard Jewele's favorite thing. Ah tragic. We're back and we're talking about police officers lying under oath in order to secure arrests and convictions. Right, and Richard Jewel, I tell, I've just told you this guy wants to be a cop more than anything. He idolizes cops. He is not the kind of guy I don't think who would have lied to get an arrest. Or to get a conviction.
He does. He is a true believer, right, and that's gonna cause him problems, right, because I'm not saying this to like, I don't think he's a he's not a person I would consider. I don't consider his ethics to be ethical, right, Like, I don't think it's ethical to arrest people for making noise in a hot tub, right. And he's very serious about a lot of stuff that I don't agree with. But he's consistent. He's internally consistent. He does believe in the law, and he's not a liar.
Right.
He's a very He described himself as a very methodical person. He liked to plan out everything. He read the Georgia Legal Code for fun. And he's not gonna fit in with the Sheriff's department because he wants to be a good cop and they have a very different idea about what a good cop is. Right. He described the rural county he worked in as like going back into the
seventies in terms of law enforcement. In other words, this is a place where there's good old boys who enjoy limited immunity to crimes, and there's other people, skin color dependent who are You're much more free to harass or hassle, right, and that's not the kind of cop Jewel wants to be,
right if this were. He's kind of like Sergeant Nicholas Angel in Hot Fuzz, right, where he's like he's too good for the rest of the department, Except he's not very good at the job either, right, Like, he has really good and very strict intentions, but he's not like the most competent at police work. And he's also pissing everyone off because he takes a lot of stuff seriously that they don't take seriously, and he doesn't like it when other people are kind of more loosey goosey with
the rules. So he gets sidelined mostly into dealing with car accidents, right, because that's the part of the job he does well and nobody else really wants to do it. He works really hard, he puts in fourteen hour days. He volunteers to host community events. He's the cop that
they'll he'll go talk to a school or whatever. He loves doing that kind of shit, But his fellow officers are kind of just after they get to know him, waiting for an excuse to shitcan him and get him off of the force, right, because again he's kind of cramping their style and he's attempting to the story. He tells us that he was trying to pursue someone and he crashes his police car in nineteen ninety five, and that's the chance these people had been waiting for, right,
So he is demoted, he loses his badge. He's offered to stay working at the jail, but Richard is unwilling to return to that kind of life, so he resigns from the force and he gets the kind of job that you get when you're a failed cop. He becomes a campus cop, right, perfect, Yeah, that's the it's the circle of cop. So Piedmont College hires him and he
immediately gets a reputation. Again, he's super diligent, like he will absolutely write people up for every infraction he sees, and he will pursue the kind of infractions you know. College campus cops generally you understand like it at certain times and stuff. People are going to party, there's going to be underage drinking, and you don't always go after that, right because, like for what they it's kind of impossible to police it all. So you kind of triage that
sort of shit. Right, Richard can't stand any kind of violation of the rules, and so he goes after kids whenever he sees any kind of infraction. He's issuing tickets, he's trying to arrest people. He is very aggressive about this, to the point that the president of the college gets calls three or four times a week from different people
complaining to him about Jeweles behavior. Right, Like, he thinks, my job is to be a cop, and the real job is to basically be a babysitter and make sure kids don't.
Die, right, Yeah, that they don't hurt themselves.
I'm sure they love to fuck with him, though, Oh my god, he's like the.
Dream absolutely And he again he does sound like the most annoying campus cop. And it was during them, his campus cop days, that Richard would notch his one real victory in the war on crime. During a manhunt for a suspected burglar, he spotted the culprit hiding near the top of a tree. Writing for Vanity Fair, Marie Brynner notes that Jewel had arguments over turf with other officers. He described himself as the kind of cop who is eager to track down people partying after hours and call
their parents. Oh and this obsession, yeah, this all clashes with what his employers want him to do. The president of the university repeatedly begs him, hey man, calm the fuck down, like he's up. This is not what we want you doing, and Richard refuses to bend, so he resigns rather than accept that some kids are going to drink on campus and maybe you need to chill out.
Right.
So, once this job falls through, he finds himself back in Atlanta, looking for a new job and living with his mother. Now, because of the way this all timed out, the Olympics is coming to town, right, this is the Atlanta Olympics. I don't know why the fuck you'd want to hold an Olympics in a city that has such
nightmarish summer weather and horrible traffic. But they only host cities in places with horrible traffic, or host Olympics in places with horrible traffic, which is why they're doing it in La next maybe the only city worse than Atlanta to do the Olympics in the good fucking lucky Olympic dick shits. I hope you enjoy it.
I remember watching this one.
Great gymnastics, Yeah, great gymnastics, great terrorism, all sorts of good stuff in this Olympics. So Richard is excited for the Olympics because you know, they're a disaster for any city's economy.
Right.
They never really work out very well in the long run, But in the short term they work out really well for one group of people, which is security guards, because you need a shitload of security guards standing around all of these different venues and you know areas of the city that have been like walled off for the event to tell people, hey, you can't be here, or to help generally, to help people like figure out where they're supposed to go, right, You're kind of glorified like maths.
A lot of the time. I helped desk as a security guard in the situation. But you need a lot of those guys, right, because it's the fucking Olympics. So Jewele later recalled thinking, I thought working at the Centennial Olympic Park will look really good on my resume. I don't know that that's the case. That's the kind of man Richard was. He gets the job easily enough, and he brings the same attitude to this next gig that he brought to his previous career as a real cop.
It was actual job, as best as I can put it together, was to stand overnight by a sound and light tower near the main stage area. The people who'd planned for the Olympic Atlanta Olympics did a terrible job, as is always the case when people planned for an Olympics, and so the whole downtown area, the whole Olympic Park downtown, which is like twenty one acres, was constantly claught. It was a nightmare. Athletes are regularly late for their events
because they just like can't get through this shit. Almost nobody who's in this park is from Atlantis. They don't know where they're going anyway, and everything's like walled off and fenced off in a weird way. It's just a fucking Titanic mess. So his job is helping to manage foot traffic and help lost people get where they're going. Now.
Marie Brynner talked extensively with Richard Jewel for her piece, and he gives us in some of these interviews, we get clips, like pieces of his day to day life that do not make this sound like a demanding job.
Right.
This is on paper supposed to be kind of a do nothing gig quote. Jewel had a routine he would check in and fill the ice chest he kept by a bench at his station. Jewel liked to offer water and cokes to pregnant women or policemen who stop to rest. Those are the two guys who deserve cokes. Pregnant women and cops.
One of them probably shouldn't have cokes.
But that's one of them. Probably shouldn't have a coke. I don't know. Fuck it, yeah, a little bit of a little bit of caffee. I think we get too we're too protective of fetuses these days.
I agree. I agree. Eat sushi whatever, it doesn't matter, eat sush.
She have some coffee, A little bit of crack cocaine probably not bad for you. What just a little bit, a little bit. It's cleaner as a hunter. Biden reminded us, all it's cleaner than it's basically like an apple. So very little is expected of Richard Jewel in his job as security guard, but as usual, he takes the job very seriously. This is one thing I'll say for him. He doesn't consider in a normal instance, maybe we'd call this sad, but he doesn't consider being a security guard
to be any less serious than being a police officer. Right. He treats the job the same way, and thank god he did, because he's going to save a shitload of people's lives. This is really like a wild moment of like this guy. Every other thing else I've said about him is this is like the fucking set up to a very depressing not Adam Sandler Rob Schneider movie, right, or I guess Paul Blart Malcot might be a better
fucking comparison or whatever. But like, it doesn't sound like we're setting up for this guy to have be very impressive, but he is, because again, he treats this job like it's life and death and it's about to be a bit after midnight on July twenty seventh, nineteen ninety six, jul is doing his rounds and he notices that the people at Budworld, which I'm assuming was a pop up bar sponsored by Budweiser, we're getting kind of rowdy and loud. Now.
I wanted to know what bud World was, so in order in an effort to do my due diligence, I googled bud World Olympics, which brought up this television ad which I'm just gonna get everybody so weaken before we move on here. Everyone just needs a little hit of the nineteen nineties, just like just like one quick dose, you know, just a little bump to get us through.
Oh, I can't wait.
Okay, World, everyone's got to add something to the party. In Mexico. You've got this awfu Saiti sunset. How about two weeks were France La We'll get back to your France, gree the hook he started the whole thing.
Malaysia, Yeah, some of those Norway, you're in charge.
Of the ice.
Uh. We got the Fudd the Bud World party during the ninety six Summer Games.
Now everybody else has culture. We got beer.
That was my question, like who is this most racist to because it, weirdly enough, I think it's Americans. Yes, where it's like, oh yeah, all these other cultures got there. I mean, I guess Norway is just being like Ice. That's kind of fucked up too. Oh the nineties. Okay, now that we've all gotten that, that that quick, quick, hot hit of the nineties, let's get let's get back
to the terrorist attack that we're talking about. So Jewel Richard jewel here's people getting drunken rowdy at the bud World event where you're supposed to get drunken rowdy, right, and worse, he sees that people have spilled out of the event itself and there's like leaving beers on the ground and wandering around and you know, being a problem. And him being the campus cop who got fired for being too angry at people partying, he leaps into action and he goes off to report the trash and the
quote carousing. And this may be the only time in history where a rent a cop being overly a buzzkill works out because on his way to report the not really a crime in progress, he notices something. Someone has left a green military style backpack lying on the ground unattended. So Richard reports the bag and a small team of law enforcement bears down on the area and they start looking around to try to find the bag's owner. And interviews after the fact, Jewelry recalled that he didn't take
this seriously at first. They'd found a similar unattended bag a few days ago, and he expected this to end like that had, right, So as soon as he calls out the bag and you cops start trying to figure out who the bag belongs to. He winds up in an argument with a group of drunk people who like smudge a camer lens, and then he kind of realizes
like they're not finding the owner of the bag. So he walks over to this GBI, the Georgia's Bureau of Investigation, it's like the state FBI for Georgia, and he asked the guy, are you going to open it? And then here's Jewell quote. At that point, it was not a concern. I was thinking to myself, well, I'm sure one of these people left it on the ground. When Davis, that the GBI agent, came back and said nobody said it was theirs, that's when the little hairs on the back
of my head began to stand up. I thought, uh, oh, this is not good. So he and that agent clear a twenty five foot square. They start getting people away. They're like, everyone needs to clear the area. Clear the area, and they clear a twenty five foot square around the bag.
Nobody looks in the bag or like that's no, you.
You really, because who knows if that's what triggers it, right, if like opening it or whatever would set it off or something you you as a security guard, and some random guy from the GBI shouldn't like obviously bomb people, but like you don't. You don't want some guy who has no fucking idea what he's doing with explosives to look into that.
Bag, right, I just don't look at a I totally agree, but I don't look at a backpack, and I'm like, bomb.
But I guess in this situation you have to Yes.
Thank god he did, right, Like yeah, it is like, this is one of those things where I have to say, nearly everyone would have just been just a fucking bag, but it wasn't. And Richard was in there, right, you know, he was waiting his whole life of being like overly paranoid and fucking serious about shit for the one time in which it mattered and saved a shitload of people's lives.
So he does a circle while they're clearing people where he starts sticking his head in different structures in the park and basically saying, hey, get out of whatever, cause there's you know, there's different Like you've got these like booths where people are like filming for different day and like yelling at people, get the fuck out now, get the fuck out now, right, And he deserves a lot of credit here. He flips from normal day wandering around
angry at drunk people too. I have to clear this area, something really bad could be happening. And he does this before he knows there's a bomb there. He just I think that it must just be instinct or whatever. But as a result, because of how many people he and this other guy Davis clear away. When the bomb goes off, and it's sometime after one in the morning, it's like a little after one am, it doesn't harm nobody, right, but it harms only a fraction of the people who
might otherwise have been present. Like the if the pipe bob, if the area had been as crowded as it was supposed to be, I mean, it could have been a dozen or more people dead, like potentially dozens and dozens injured, you know, and like.
How many people died.
Two deaths, one directly and one indirectly, and like one hundred eleven injuries. So if they hadn't cleared the area, it killed two people and injured more than one hundred after they had cleared the area. If they hadn't cleared the area, if it was still full of drunk people and camera crews and the like, like just a nightmare. Like it would have been much worse. They saved a lot of people's lives, right, I mean, easily more than
a dozen lives. I don't know how. It's impossible to say how many, but I would have been shocked if it had been if it was any less than that, right, they This really is a significant thing that Jewel does, and Jewel and this other guy Davis do, But Jewel is the guy who notices at first. Probably nobody would have picked it out if he hadn't, right, because this was his area and it was his job to be
on guard. And he was right, which kind of justifies his entire life up to this point, right, you know, And that should be a happy story, right, this kind of happy hapless you know, guy who couldn't hack it as a cop, rent a cop, never got respect. He's finally a hero, He's legitimately a hero.
Right.
They cleared and estimated seventy five to one hundred, one hundred people away from the area, So again, at least another seventy five to one hundred people would have been in the blast radius if they had not done what they did Nancy Coleman for The New York Times rites quote. The pipe bomb inside the bag exploded minutes later. Alice s Hawthorne, a spectator from Albany, Georgia, died in the blast. Millie Uzannel, a Turkish cameraman running to cover the explosion,
died of a heart attack soon after. Right, so again, and that's, you know, a death from a heart attack, so potentially, assuming that hadn't happened, Like you're talking one death directly from the explosion as opposed to an additional seventy five to one hundred people being in the blast. Ratis right, not not hard to imagine how much worse it could have been. Jewel kind of becomes a hero immediately, like he it's very clear from the jump that he's the guy who spotted this and what he had done.
And he gets interviewed by local and national news later that day, he tells CNN, the only thing I wish we could have done is got everybody out of the area. I feel for the victims and their families, and I mean, it's the Olympics. It's supposed to be a time of joy for the world, and it's a very very bad thing. And obviously he's traumatized by the explosion. He's there, he's at ground zero, he sees the injuries, he sees the person who's killed, so that he's fucked up by this, obviously,
but he's also undeniably the hero. And in a better world, he would have gotten the validation he'd always sought and it probably would have been good for his career. Right. I have trouble if this had been where the story ended. I have trouble imagining him not getting hired by a police department somewhere only to get the good pr of bringing on this hero security guard. Right.
He could definitely work for ICE now for sure.
Right? Well?
Yeah, Unfortunately, the world is not a just place and instead of you know, this leading to him actually having a career, you know, in law enforcement, this nearly ruins his life, right, Like, this absolutely shatters him for quite some time.
So from the trust are you about to know? Okay?
Yeah, So as soon as the blast happens, Jules old boss at Piedmont College, Ray Clear, sees his former employee on TV and he gets pissed because he didn't like they'd fallen out when Richard caught a kid's smoking pot and insisted on arresting and charging the boy, and Clear was like, no, just like cite him, you don't. We don't need any arrests of students over marijuana. That's like, don't, don't do that, right, And obviously Clear is in the
right here. But because he doesn't like Richard Jewel, he doesn't trust him, and he thinks that he's because he's kind of been He's this weird guy, right, he's like weirdly into being a cop. He's just had rubbed Clear
the wrong way. And so Clear calls the Georgia Buer of Investigation and he reports, Hey, this guy who everyone is saying is the hero, I think he's got a lot of attension seeking behavior and bad judgment and maybe you should take another look into him, right, basically saying, maybe maybe he's set it up right, and you could almost see you can see it a logic there. Okay, sure this guy had failed out of being a cop.
He wants to be a hero. Maybe he planted a bomb so that he could get everyone away from it. Right now, that's a stretch, and the there is not any evidence ever that this was the case. So again, I think this is just a guy who didn't like Richard calling the GBI and trying to, like, out of jealousy or something, fuck up his former employee. But the tip gets passed along to the FBI, and the FBI takes it seriously and they send out investigators to look and do every aspect of Jules life.
Robert, I would never out you to the FBI, I promise.
Thank you, Sophie, that that is absolutely doesn't sound like something someone who just outed me to the FBI would say.
I would never do that. I would never do that.
What if I arrested a kid for smoking pot?
Poor form? Even with enemies, I think, don't go out of your way to fuck with someone's life like you should be evidence.
This guy was just like, hmmm, I don't know, he's got to use an attention seeker. I don't trust him, even.
A weird guy. I didn't like him.
Let me call sir.
You were being I was on your back for the pot thing. But you are the dick here now, right, Yeah? And you know the initial investigation and honestly, any responsible investigation would have looked into Jewel a little, right because he was there, and you always like, that's not unreasonable to look into the guy, right, But being the FBI, they pursue this in the most fucked up and scummy way possible. So two days after the bombing, Jewel gets a phone call from a friend of his with the
Georgia Bureau of Investigation. This is like somebody that he had been social with. I think somebody that he idolized, because this guy is a real, you know, special agent, right, that's kind of what I want to do, right. And so the FBI when they find out that there's someone and the jerge of Bureau of Investigation who knows Jewel, they're like, hey, he likes you, right, he thinks you're his friend, gets some info out of him, right, Yeah.
So this guy at the GBI calls Jewel and he's like, hey, buddy, who I probably hadn't talked to in weeks. I was out of work the day the bombing happened. Mind if I come over to your house and you tell me what happened. I'm just really curious about how you were such a hero. Obviously, this guy's wearing a wire the
whole time, right. So Jewel is unaware, though he thinks that his cool friend in the GBI is proud of him and just wants to hear about his triumph and Mayami, who knows, maybe I could get a job at the GBI after this, right, you know, having just saved all these people's lives. Now again, Jewel does not catch on. But what's happened here is at this early stage, the FEDS have gone from considering Richard Jeul a hero to
within days suspecting him of being the bomber. Right almost immediately, he becomes their prime Like there's a couple of guys earlier, as we'll talk about who they'd seen, but very quickly he becomes the primary focus of the investigator, and the reasoning why they focus on him boils mostly down to laziness. And this is my opinion here, but I think there's some professional jealousy going on here too. Because the fbis out in at every Olympics in the US. Obviously, the
GBI is there because it's in Georgia. These are the premier law enforcement agencies in the region that are supposed to be making sure a bombing doesn't happen. They both fuck up. A bomber gets through security with a bomb, enters the Olympic park area and sets off the bomb
without being caught. And the only reason it wasn't worse and that dozens of people aren't dead is that a rent a cop outperformed the entire federal law enforcement apparatus, all of the millions of dollars in gear, the bomb sniffing dogs, the metal detectors, None of that did any shit. None of these highly paid special agents figured out fuck none of them caught anyone anything one Before this happened.
It was a rent a cop walking back to complain about some drunk kids who spotted the bomb and saved the day. Right, And I think that pisses off and embarrasses the FBI. I think the attitude for a lot of people in the bureau is like and it particularly is we'll talk about the guy who's the director of the BEAU at the time, is like, well, this looks really bad for us, unless that fucker was the bomber.
Then then then the FBI gets to be the hero again, right once we once we take this guy down, Right now, you know who would never sell you out to the FBI?
The product, Yeah, the products and services that support me.
Honestly, several of our sponsors would sell you out to the FBI. Anyway, here's a ans we're back. So the FBI is embarrassed, and this embarrassment also, it's not just that like they'd fucked up and let a bomb go off at the Olympic Park and the rent a cop was the guy who caught it. But this has been a bad This is we're talking ninety six. This has been a bad decade so far for the FBI and for federal law enforcement as a whole. Couple of years ago you had Ruby Ridge and then Waco, and Waco
is still very fresh in the public mind. And then obviously the Oklahoma City bombing happens a year before this bombing, right, and the FBI fails to stop it.
That's literally the trifecta.
Yeah, Like, they don't look good right now. And the fact that yet another bomber bombed yet another high profile place that the FBI is supposed to be protecting does not make them look.
Good, right unless this guy did it.
Unless this guy did it and then we catch him and then we're heroes again, right, And Yeah, the more investigators looked into it, the more it looked like there might be a case here. Because everyone they talk to is they reach out to the guys. Number one. A lot of Jeweles former co workers don't like him, and they don't like him because they were I think, as a general rule, shadier cops than he was, right, and because he's legitimately seems to have been kind of annoying, right, Like,
he was very over zealous. But none of those things are like crime or terrorism adjacent.
Right.
But they start putting together this because they're only looking at a narrow and this is this kind of myopic detective blindness you get if you're only looking at a really narrow subset of the facts, it can look well, okay, we're just looking at jewel Oh, he's over zealous. He really badly wants to be a cop. He do anything to be a cop. Maybe he cooked all this up for the benefit of his career, and it really does seem like he's making the most of his fifteen minutes
of fame. He gets interviewed by CNN. The AT and T's publicity team basically works up an appearance and makes him wear a company shirt because he'd been a security guard for AT and T. I guess because AT and T wanted Americans to associate their favorite phone company with a terroristic bombing that killed and named people. I don't know why. It's a weird call at and D.
That is weird.
Marriott for sure, Yeah, that would make sense. Richard would later claim the idea of going on TV made me nervous. I was not the hero. There were so many others who saved lives, and perhaps the FBI would have concluded its investigation without Jewel catching on. Right again, some degree of looking into this guy is reasonable, but given what
happens next here, that winds up being impossible. And the reason why there's no chance to keep this under wraps, and the reason why everything blows up and Jewel's life blows up is that the Atlanta Journal Constitution, which is a local paper of record in Atlanta, publishes an article on July thirtieth in which they announced that the FBI
had a suspect for the bombing security guard Richard Jewel. Now, the Journal was owned by Cox Newspapers, who had flown something like three hundred people in from other papers to report out of the Journal's office. They had like sent reporters around, flown them all around the world to like study up on different sports that they could report well on the Olympics, because they're putting out a daily special Olympics edition and the expense they've spent millions preparing to
cover the Olympics. Right now, this is a time in which there's more money in the newspaper biz. But you got to remember whenever you're investing that kind of capital into an endeavor, you have to make a return, right. And so the new editor of the paper, John Walter, is expecting the fact that there's been a bombing that's like a huge boon potentially to the media, right, Like, this is something people are going to read about. And we're the paper of record for Atlanta. We've got to
be the ones breaking the scoops. We can't get scooped by the big national papers. We can't let the New York Times take this from us, right, get something out about this, you know. And the editor is this guy, John Walter, who is he had replaced a more traditional
ethical newsman. Walter is of this kind of generation of guys who's trying to find more exciting and profitable ways to package news content as opposed to doing good journalism, pro vanity fair quote more and more, the paper's influence was on what John Walter called chunklets, short bits, and soft news style known as eye candy, published features on
couple's massage and how mushrooms grow in the rain. Walter had fired off several terse memos to ensure that there would be no more jumps of news stories to back pages and no more unsourced news stories except on rare occasions. I don't see any reason why you can't report hard news in a short form, one editor told me. The AJAC style of reporting and declarative sentences had a name too, the Voice of God. It was omniscient because it allowed
no references to unattributed sources. Subjects such as aids, which often required confidentiality, could not be covered properly in the paper. In the opinion of several reporters, the AJAC picked up news stories with unnamed sources from the New York Times, however,
and reporters groused about the hypocrisy of the double standard. Now, all this was going to cause problems because the journal can't let themselves be scooped in their hometown, but they get reached out to They get basically a leak from the FBI, who leaks them documents that make it clear that Richard Jewel is their chief suspect, right. That's what
happens is someone from the FBI talks to them. And this is a really ethically questionable thing because a person who is suspected of a crime has not been charged with it. They certainly haven't been convicted. Is it ethical at all to report that this guy is under suspicion right now, because you're going to nuke his life and make a huge number of people think he murdered someone
and tried to murder dozens more people. Right, But on the other hand, it's going to sell papers, so obviously print that shit, right And so General reporter Mary Scruggs writes an article titled FBI suspects hero guard may have planted bomb, and again it uses this kind of voice of God phrasings to where like they did they had a source that they couldn't admit that it had reached out to them, But they don't say that, right, Like, they don't address that at all. And I'm going to read
a quote from the article. Richard Jewell, thirty three, a former law enforcement officer, I fits the profile of the lone bomber. This profile generally includes a frustrated white man who is a former police officer, member of the military, or police wannabe who seeks to become a hero.
That's so fucked up.
That's so fucked up. Like, that's not even a that's not a real profile. That's not the lone bomber. How many loan bombers have fit this profile?
Right?
Also, yes, he's eager and like wants to be liked.
I mean that's I'm sorry. I don't think the standard Loane bomber is a wannabe cop who wants to be a hero, in part because the guy who actually did the bombings, who will talk about later, was an anti abortion activist who was bombing people because he thinks abortion's murder. He's a Christian extremist, supremacist, special Forces veteran, but.
Somehow doesn't think murder is murder.
I think he's fine with murder. Oh, like they're all fine with murder, just not fine with women having choices. We understand what this is about. We don't have to play around with their semantics games.
There was definitely gonna be a manifesto though, that was really involved in this, and thank you. I was worried that this was still unsolved, so I'm so no, no, no, they.
Figured it out.
It gets solved as shit. Okay, I'm just bringing it up to point out, like their compl profile is completely wrong, right, yes, Now as to how this all happen, because we don't exactly know how they got their source, It's very likely they get leaked by someone in the FBI, but I don't think that that's been proven to a point of certainty. The director of the FBI at this point was a toad named Lewis free fr e H. He came into
the bombing prime to make bad decisions. One of his closest advisors was former Deputy director of the FBI Larry Potts, who tried to cover up FBI incompetence at Ruby Ridge three, made himself responsible for the oversight of the bureau's efforts in this high profile case. He comes in and as immediately like I am, I am, like where the buck
stops with this case. I'm directly overseeing this as director of the FBI, because this is like obviously, given everything that's happen, and nothing matters more than us quickly finding a culprit, right, and they don't, you know, initially there had been like a suspect, a suspect who was like a drunk at a bar who the night before and made some threatening comments. So he's their first suspect. But
it turns out he's got an alibi. And this happens a couple of times, right where they'll find someone and he'll seem like it might this guy might have been the one who did it, and then it'll become clear that he could not have been the bomber, and Free flips out at his subordinates each time. He becomes, in their words, abusive, condescending, and dismissive every time they tell him, no, it couldn't have been that guy. And whenever they start to suspect a new person, Free will declare, we have
our man. He does that every time. And so when they settle on and they get this leak and they start looking in to Richard Jewel, Free is like, we've got our guy. This is him, this has to be him. Make sure it's him, right, and that there is some evidence that suggests that Free orchestrated the leaking of information hours after the bombing. Right because he does this seems possible.
We know he does this with the first time they have a suspect that drunk at the bar, like there's a leak, so the papers know the FBI's got someone, and then it's really embarrassing to him because that guy wound up not having done it right, So it's just very likely that he did the same thing with Jewel, Right, are.
The Olympics like going on the whole Like, yeah, yet.
Slow shit down a bit, but okay, it's more just a matter of there is this high profile bombing at the Olympics. The FBI still hasn't caught the guy. The Oklahoma City bombing happened a year ago and they didn't stop that. It's just this like, we have to prove that we're worth all the money that the country spends on us, because it really doesn't look like it right now. Right, we're fucking we're taking a massive l in public and
I can't accept that, you know. So, for their part, the journal avoids telling anyone how they got because it's like a memo that they get that that lists Jewel is the suspect, and they don't. Oh again, it's this whole voice of God thing. They give no attribution and they don't cite a source Atlanta Magazine describes their reporting as quote, leaving the reader to wonder whether the claims came from a legitimate law enforcement enforcement official or from
a proclamation of God. It's this And I have so many issues with like the way a lot of media works with like objectivity in this book, and this is another example of that of like, no, this is the way our paper sounds.
Right.
We don't cite anonymous sources. We don't say that we've been leaked something because that would be kind of that would be breaking this voice of God that is so important to us. Otherwise people aren't going to trust the journal. And so what that does here is the FBI leaks to them instead of saying, yeah, the same guy who leaked to us, the same people who leak to us the name or a suspect who was exonerated have leaked again a suspect, but this guy one's totally it. Guys,
but we're not going to tell you where it came from. Right, nobody's doing well here, you see it like it's the Meatia. Yeah, and particularly this one publication are being slimy as shit because it's good for business and because they've made a series of bad decisions editorially, and the FBI is just desperate to have to make it clear, No, we're doing our jobs, We're on the ball, you're safe, we know what we're doing. We know we fucked up and let a bombing happen, but you know it's really not our
fault because it's probably the security guard. How could we have known?
You know?
Right, Like that's that's what they're trying to do.
It's like the headlines where it's like the people in Gaza were bombed, but it's like.
By who exactly? Yeah right, yeah, I don't mean to bring down the vibe.
No, no, no, but like it is this all of these are like continuing problems for a lot of legacy media, right like this, like the the paper's brand and reputation is what matters more than like making sure that we're doing things ethically, and obviously traffic money, make sure that makes me more than making sure we're doing things ethically. Right, these these articles will sell, People will buy our paper if we're covering this case. So let's just if that
means destroying Richard Jewel's life, fuck him. Right, So you've gotten the FBI, you've got the director pressuring every lead to be the guy, and Jewel, you know, seems like their best bet. So that article drops on the thirtieth, the same day that two FBI agents show up at Richard Jewel's house and ask him if he wants to make a training film for them, So he doesn't actually get to see this article that the journal's published saying
that he's the FBI's main suspect. But on the same day they show up early at his house and like, Hey, you did such a good job. Would you make a training video for us about how spotted the bomb? Yeah, why don't you come in the station? And because we just we're such big fancy maybe you've got a career in the bureau Richard, right, Obviously there's no training film.
They want to in to review him, to see if he will slip up or be inconsistent or lie under the guise of recording his wisdom as a training video for new agents. Jewell started to realize something was up when his car was tailed by four other FBI cars on the way to the office and they're like, oh, yeah, I don't worry about it, it's fine, and he's like, that seems weird. I feel like you don't need four or five cars to take a guy to do a
fucking interview. And then they end the interview this this training video, by asking him to sign a waiver of his rights, and then he's like, wait a second, that's no Actually, I think I want a lawyer now, And as soon as he does that, they pull the standard cop Why do you need a lawyer, Richard? You didn't do anything right.
You know, Like, oh my fucking guy, he's just.
So shitty, and this is he's this guy. It takes him so long to realize what's happening because he trusts the system, he trusts cops, he likes, He idolizes these feds, and I'm actually surprised that he even got it then. But you have to imagine the dawn horror as he realizes, like, oh my god, they were lying to me about all of this. They think I did it, and they want they're trying to trap me, Like it's it's it's pretty
fucked up. Like I don't have a lot of inherent sympathy for the whole desperately wanting to be a cop thing, but you have to be sympathetic to a guy like Jewel who believes so strongly in this just saves a bunch of lives. And then his reward is this system he idolizes, absolutely turning on him.
How long does this go on?
For about three months?
Oh my?
So for three months Jewel's life is turned upside down. FBI agents stake out his house. His house is searched, Everything related to him is searched. Right like they tear up his home. They tear up like they're searching the houses of people who are like close to him.
Embarrassing porn came up, right.
Yeah, he can't go anywhere without being surrounded. He becomes an object of obsession for reporters at the Journal. Not only is the FBI always outside of his house, dozens and dozens of journalists and cameras. They're always staking out his house, waiting for him to leave, waiting for any chance to shout questions at him, and the journal but turns themselves into the paper of Richard Jewel. They are publishing multiple
articles a day about this one guy. On August first, so that's the day after he has his That first article drops in the day after he goes to the FBI office on August first, the same day he's rated by the FBI. The journal publishes a piece on Richard Jewel's history as a campus cop titled a bad Man to Cross on the Beat. Here's Atlanta Magazine. Students were also quoted as saying that Jewel went to extremes. He
was very macho, and he could get very belligerate. Piedmont College junior Nikki Lane said, I've seen him go from calm to angry, back to calm, back to angry in a matter of seconds. And like, I get that he's a dick and he like tried to bust people for smoking pot, But like that doesn't that doesn't mean he's a bomber, Like you're going in fact, like he was a bad man to cross. He tried to arrest a kid for weed. That's pretty far from pipe bomb.
Yes, yes, Jesus Christ.
Another paragraph from that article with Atlanta Magazine gives you a good idea of how insane the coverage win. This is all AJC AJC columnist David Kindred, in his second column on Jewel in Two Days, compared the scene to the time law enforcement officers sought evidence against Wayne Williams, the man convicted of two murders in Atlanta's Missing Children case. When federal agents came to this town to deal with another suspect who lived with his mother like this one.
That subject was drawn to the blue lights and sirens of police work like this one. He became famous in the aftermath of murder and like, yeah, it's just it's the yellowest journalism you could possibly do. Like they are, they are basically they're turning their whole paper into this guy,
like in his life is just hell. For three straight months, every day there's articles not just in the AJAC but in national pape Popers digging into his backstory, talking about every embarrassing thing he ever did, talking to everyone who worked with him, who didn't like him. The whole country reviles him. He is a subject of mockery and costs.
On The Tonight Joe Jay Leno gives him a nickname, The Una dufis right again, this man's crime was saving a bunch of people's lives from a bomb, like the und this the unidufis like Per The New York Times, government officials and news organizations descended on the apartment Jewel shared with his mother. Dozens of FBI agents scoured the home and totaway jewels truck in an apartment complex overlooking
his building. Four stations ABC, CBSCN AND and NBC paid a tenant one thousand dollars a day to set up a command post in her unit. Yet he was never charged. Inside jewel Watch TV, he read, he played video games. He couldn't go outside, not without setting off a high speed car chase if government vehicles and media vans anyway, And that's just so fucked up, Like he did nothing. You didn't do that that he saved people's lives and everyone in the country hates him.
Now I feel kind of conflicted because you know, like that murder in Washington who killed those four college girls.
God, yeah, yeah, yeah, Colburger.
Right his name, so the Idaho guy.
Oh yeah it was Idaho.
You're right.
But like they're doing these things.
You know, like I read articles where it was like a teaching assistant that was like, yeah, he was creepy as fuck, and in his case, I think that's correct, but like, yes, all those tactics turned on an innocent person.
That's horrible, and that's the thing and you don't have and I I never like it when they do this with someone who hasn't again, at least Coburger. I think by the point most that came out had been charged and arrested. You have to remember Jewel has not been charged.
She he's never charged, right, And it's one thing, and we can there is I still have a lot of issues with reporting on people who have been charged with crimes like this in the breathless way the media does when they have not been convicted, have not had their day in court, because they're still legally innocent. But this guy hasn't even been charged with shit, you shouldn't be doing this at all when someone's just a suspect like that is so that is so that such fucking malpractice. Yeah, agreed,
it's just really vile. On October twenty seventh, prosecutors send a letter to Jeles lawyer, not to Jewel, not to the public. They just send his lawyer your letter saying, hey, he's not a suspect anymore. By the way, we're done.
No, sorry, Yeah.
The FBI makes eventually they give kind of like a half hearted apology. They admit some wrongdoing, right, but they don't they take no effort to be like, again, the responsible thing to do would be like oh shit, we really got it. We got to do a full court media press so let people know this guy is not suspected. They're just like fuck itt, they'll figure it out.
They're like mean girls in high school. Yeah, terrorists.
Now Jewel does sue them, He wins, sues the Justice Department, He wins a bunch of money. He sues several papers, including the AJAC, and he settles out of court. He does well off of this, right like he does like and you know, he lives out his life and I'm not gonna talk about the rest of his life because the man deserves fucking privacy after that. But he, uh, he does get some degree of vengeance for what they do.
But like, man, you have the trauma of of this, like because who can imagine unless you have been unless the entire country has suspected you of being a mass murdering terrorist for three or four months, Like, you can't know what that's like, you know what kind of damage that does do?
And then and then Clint Eastwood made that fucking movie.
And then yes, Clint Eastwood, so fairly recently Clint Eastwood made a movie about.
This literally called Richard Jewel.
Yeah, it's called Richard Jewel. Clint makes a movie in twenty nineteen about this whole case, right, because, I mean, conservatives are like this story because they hate the media, and this is a great example of the media being just as bad as they like to act, like it always is.
Now.
They didn't go to the media, didn't go after Jewel because he was a conservative. They went after Jewel because the FBI sent them on his case. And yeah, they were feckless and only cared about money. But Clint's what's really interesting to me about Clint's movie is that it does kind of the same thing to one of the journalists at the Atlanta Journal Constitution that they had done to Richard Jewel, which is like defame him or her. So the author of the first article that listed him
as the suspect was written by Kathy Scruggs. She's the reporter who did this, and as far as we know, she just got it or she and the I think she worked with a colleague, got like a tip that probably traced back to an FBI person who had been directed by Free to put the tip out there. Right, That's probably what happened. In the film. Kathy Scruggs is shown as going up to an FBI agent at a bar a couple of days after the bombing and saying,
give me something I can print. She's played by Olivia Wilde. By the way, the FBI agent played by John Ham says basically, I'll give you the name if you fuck me, and so yeah, she starts like touching him, and he says Richard Jewel, right, and then they go fuck right. So basically it shows Kathy Scruggs, a real woman has played by Olivia Wilde, sleeping with a source in order to get Richard Jewele's name, which is not what happened.
No one's ever alleged that being what happened. That was invented by our old friend Clint Eastwood or whoever wrote the fucking movie, just because the the story didn't seem bad enough as it was, and because I guess if you talk about what actually happened, then you have to be deeply critical about the FBI because this is ultimately their fault as much as anything else, and fundamentally the profit motive in journalism, right, Like, both of those things
are the bastards here. But Clint's not interested in that.
Let's make it a woman.
Yeah, it's a woman. It's this woman who couldn't keep it in her parts.
Slutty journalists ruining the world.
Classic bloody journalists sleeping with the FBI to get a name.
Oh s, floody journalists my favorite kind.
Yeah. Anyway, that's the first part of these this story. You know, we'll be talking about Steve Hatville and the anthrax attacks next episode. But yeah, how are you feeling? You're happy?
I've totally forgot about this Steve guy.
Yeah, I know, I know. It's wild. We haven't even gotten to him yet. But this story is like the precursor. Oh yes, oh yes, go out kind of.
Yeah, all right, I feel like we just went on a wild ride.
I'm ready for the next part.
Who excellent, Well, we'll get to that on Thursday.
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