Ben Shapiro Wrote A Book About Sex

of my favorite guests, to talk about a subject. Sophia, you do a podcast about sex, right You're you're you're something of a sexpert? Would that be sure? Do podcast called Private Parts Unknown about love and sex around the world, And as such, I um would do what I would describe as anti Ben Shapiro wing as I try to

make sure people get wet. Sophia, I think that may be unfair, and I think you actually might have a lot to learn from Ben Shapiro, and so as a service to you, as a small brained woman, I'm sure I can as a service to you, I'm gonna play this video of Bin Shapiro explaining the concept of pegging. Oh no, oh no, at least she trust and gay.

That's pretty exciting and gay we trust is. We had Megan Rapino and then we had Kara di Levine and I maybe screwing up her name, but frankly I don't care because I really don't know very much who she is. Apparently she's some sort of model and here she was modeling a bib slash straight jacket. I don't know what this top is supposed to be. And it says, peg

the patriarchy. Oh the courage, Oh the stunning courage and bravery, Peg the patriarchy because pegging, of course, is an obscure sexual practice in which women perform the the the more aggressive sexual act on men, Peg the patriarchy, right, which, yeah, and if she's pegging the patriarchy by being model for the pleasure of men generally speaking, Okay, that's that's enough. I just needed the explanation of pegging as a woman performing the and then he stutters, like nine times aggressive

part of sex. But also it's a rare act. It tells you a lot about ben because one of the things that tells you, like, if you have never pleased a sexual partner with a vagina, you might believe that you cannot be penetrated and do so aggressively. But you can also I don't know who understands less about pegging the patriarchy, karadel Avian or Benship. Yeah, mean, like I think that's what a ridiculous thing. Dejectively feels good. That's why you would do it. And she's like, can we

It's like, let's blow the patriarchy. I'm like, yeah, I'm frustrated by it because there's nothing bad about pegging, and that's like the inherent implication of that wonderful unpleasant No, it's lovely. Um, but like, yeah, anyway, I just been Shapiro's understanding of sex is always just a beautiful thing. And Sophia, what if I were to tell you that Bennethan Shapiro wrote an entire book about sex? Do you mean bent Affer? Yeah? Been benefits been off, Bennet, I

don't know, I don't know. Whatever. How would you feel if I told you that, Sophia? Um, I would laugh very hard. And that is why I'm excited to be on this. Well, he did. He published the book Porn Generation. I believe it was published in two thousand eight, so back before you know, anybody knew who been Shapiro, was that my porn Generation? Yeah, I almost got that one, so Sophia almost. Oh no, the Who? Yeah, wait about that's the who? I know about the Who. Tommy was

the first album I ever bought. We finally found a fucking pop culture reference from a millionillion years ago. Tommy is one of my favorite pieces of music. I mean, it's awesome, but who are awesome? It was? It was quite an era in which you could have a rock opera that included a song about your uncle Ernie molesting you, which is a banger, like a very very like morally confusing banger because it fettle about an incredible song, The Hatcher,

The Catcher and the Rye of Songs. Now, Sophia sorry, It was two thousand thirteen that he wrote this book, still before any reasonable person had ever heard of Ben Shapiro. It's called obviously that's the year that orgasms were invented? Correct, because none had occurred until Ben Shapiro wrote this book. Not in my Shapiro family, for certain. So it's called

Porn Generation. How social Liberalism is corrupting our future. Um, the title is it looks like look up this title for me, because I'm trying to figure out what's actually going on with the title. It appears to be Um, it appears to be the word porn and red with I'm not sure if that's a cock ring or just a nose ring on the word porn, Like if that's the maybe a belly button ring. Um. It's weird that it's there's like just a ring on it. Um. Um. I think it is so vague because he's just against

the concept of Pierre things. Yeah. I think it might be just like he's like two stars half piercings. Yes, it's very funny concern like understand being scared of piercings, like don't yeah, yeah, when when a nose piercing meant that you were like three seconds away from executing an act of sexual terrorism? Um, but not in two thousand thirteen. So the cover also has one of those explicit warning

explicit lyrics sign which I think is ironic. Um. And then there's a quote from Ann Coulter on the front. Ben Shapiro's writing a smart, informative, and incisive. He is wise behind his ears without losing the refreshing fearlessness of youth. Yes, when I think it's been Shapiro, I think fearless. I'm sorry, did you say wise beyond his ears? Wise be on to his years? Um? He knows that that the act of penetration um is fundamentally aggressive. He literally just found

out women get wet last year. Yeah, well, I don't know that he found that. He's a wonder kid because as as as I recall, his wife told him that a vagina being wet was a sign of infection. She did, She said, there's something wrong with these women. For example, you know in my life never does and the only people I get wet with other people outside of this marriage. Can I get an amen? Every time anymously fucking on Tinder he talks about sex. He owns himself to a

degree that I didn't realize was possible. Like you repeatedly have give people so much ammunition to dunk on you, and not even like it's incredible, it's breathtaking, Like it's like you would have to if you were not, if you didn't have the natural gifts been Shapiro had, you would have to create a like you would have to work as a full time job to be owned that hard?

Did he not get bullied as a kid he's like, I mean, I think, oh, but probably still yes, the world has bullied Been Shapiro because like, you know, I was bullied and you know exactly which ship is going to be ammunition. How do you how do you live here on God's Green Internet or it or just typing ship? Like I don't know how to please women? Like it's incredible, It's just crazy, it's just just amazing. Um. So the

it opens with a dedication. This is written by Ben to all members of my generation striving to maintain their dignity, honor, virtue, and innocence and a chaotic culture, and to their parents. I will remind you, because he talks about maintaining his innocence that a little less than a decade before this, when he was I think seventeen, Been Shapiro wrote a column for a conservative website arguing that there's no such thing as civilian casualties in Afghanistan and we shouldn't care

how many women and children are bombs gil um. Innocence pegging is aggressive, but but celebrating the murder of civilians by twenty first century weaponry is totally fine. That is Ben Shapiro's ethical stance. Who the funk is the intended audience, because he just tried to pretend like I was for

parents and kids. Well, I guess I think I can help you here because chapter one is titled A Generation Lost, and it opens up with a quote from John Locke, who, as you may know, as a man who never fucked um, absolutely did not fuck. The John Lock quote is virtue is oh, Hobbs. Hobbs didn't do anything but funck. The only reason we have writings from Hobbs is that somebody was taking them down while he was in mid bone. He just dictated them all. Like David Mill writing Deadwood.

He occasionally had to take a like a syphilis break, and that's when you would knock out some writing, and then he would just go right back to fucking. Yeah. Um, that's lock could never um. So the Lock quote is virtue was harder to be got the knowledge of the world, and if lost in a young man is seldom recovered. Um. John Locke, he's just being like, don't learn things, just stay innocent and hide. That's kind of what that sounds like. The nightmare of thinking that you are as a person

completely static and you cannot change. You should be static changing growing. These are all bad things. That is kind of the essence of conservatism. And that's why he never got hard. He's against growing. No, he is against growing, so his dick would not get hard. No, no, no, you you celebrate that. So so here's here's how this book opens. This has been and I am a member

of a lost generation. We have lost our values, we have lost our faith, and we have lost ourselves as societal standards and traditional values have declined, and the crassest elements of sexual deviancy and pornography if taken over the public square. It is the youngest Americans who have paid the price. Never in our country's history has a generation been so empowered, so wealthy, so privileged, and yet so empty.

I want to look up the levels of wealth in the millennials, just just just to point out that he's comprehensively wrong about everything. Oh do you mean the generation that objectively is doing way worse than their parents? Yeah? By like, um, so millennials are eighty percent as wealthy as their parents were at this age. Uh. And this is from Bloomberg. In almost every way measurable. Millennials in the US at forty are doing worse financially than the

generations that came before them. Um, it's it's it's incredible. We love millennials own less than five percent of all US wealth, and like two percent of that alone is Mark Suckerberg. Um. It's just it's hysterical how wrong he is. Um, because because he's he's he's an idiot. Um. I'm not going to read the rest of the book in my Ben Shapiro voice because people will stop listening, and they ought to, but I just kind of felt the need to with that. It was if a tool and a

toad had a gross baby, yeah, somehow sexless. I cannot Yeah, if Gilbert Grape and Gilbert Godfrey had a baby and then that baby, I don't know. I don't even know, Like what could be sad enough to happen to a baby to make it Ben Shapiro. I guess that's the mystery of Ben Shapiro, is how did someone that's sad come about? Um? And I have some information on that answer,

but but but but I cannot share it. Um. So Ben goes on to say, this book is not written from the perspective of a parent, a sociologist, or a teacher, but of a peer. So there's the answer to your question, Sophia. So this is my generation, the poor in generation, and for good or ill, we are all America's future. So that's very funny. Um. I would pay good fucking money

for Ben Shapiro's porn history. So if anyone is a hacker and has that information allegedly allegedly post it, I also just want to go on to note because the point here is that Ben Shapiro is comprehensively wrong about everything. He's wrong about this being a generation of sexual deviancy.

Millennials and Generation Z are having less casual sex than Generation X or the Baby Boomers, according to a two thou eighteen study, actually less sex in general, preod less sex, less alcohol consumption, more social media, living for with parents for longer. Um. Yeah, that came out into There was a study about that in two thousand fourteen. Um, so again, Ben Shapiro. If Ben Shapiro makes a claim, you just

have to assume the opposite is true. Yep. So Um he goes on to blame thats how his wife tries to get him to find her clip. So okay, if I say left, this motherfucker is going to go right yeah, okay, so that's just how I'm going to reverse engineer this ship and still still bone dry, bone dry. The last time she tried to get him to find her clip, he wound up in Haifa. Actually that is why he's such a rabid Zionist. It allows him to avoid He thinks,

it's my man winds up in the dead sea. Um, your ms, I am in hi Fa looking for her clip. So he blames the deviancy of the current generation, which is he's talking about millennials here. It's generation Z wasn't really much of a topic of discussion. Um. He blames the devancy on moral relativism, radical feminism, and generational nihilism. Um. So that's great, umially in your nerd face, you know what. He says that, instead of adopting stronger moral standards are

society has embraced the lure of personal fulfillment. In a world where all values are equal, where everything is simply a matter of choice, narcissism rules the day. Our culture has bred hollow young men obsessed with self gratification. Young women are told to act like sex objects and enjoy it. The revisionist historians of effectively labeled obscenity as a right that the Founding Fathers sought to protect. Society told the poor in generation that final moral authority rests inside each

of us, and in our vanity, we listened. I can't. I didn't mean to fade into the voice. It just how are you act if you're acting like a sexual object and you're enjoying it? How are you acting that? Completely a statement that makes zero sense. Yeah, it's it's it's really it's really outstanding. Um, yeah, this is outstanding. Are acting like you like gay sex and you're enjoying it? Yeah? Hey guess what? Yeah, I got used for you. Alright, we're all invited too this year's Pride parade. Okay, that

is all. Before we move into ads, I want to note one other thing Ben got wrong, Because you could argue, we already pointed out this millennials and generations he have less sex with fewer partners than the generations before them, so they are objectively less slutty. Um, but you might argue, well, but Ben is also saying that porn is the problem, so maybe he maybe his argument is right, And because of all the poinn we're consuming, we're fucking less, which

isn't the argument Ben is making. He's comprehensively wrong. But I want to note that there. I want to just read a quote from Vice about the the argument that like hass porn, why millennials are fucking less. Unfortunately, there's

one problem with this explanation. It's completely wrong. In a study published earlier this year in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, researchers analyzed a quarter centuries worth of data from the General Social Survey, a nationally representative US survey conducted most years that inquires about American sex lives, among other things, since nineteen nine, Participants have been asked two key questions, whether they have seen a pornographic movie in the last year,

and how often they were having sex during the same time period. This allowed researchers to see whether these two things were related. It turns out that Americans across the board, not just millennials, were having less sex today than they were in the past. However, millennials were doing it less than everyone else, and while this decline in sexual activity was linked to porn use, the results probably weren't what you were expecting. Specifically, rather than being linked to less sex, watching,

porn was actually linked to having more sex. In other words, though porn might seem like the logical target to blame when it comes to why millennials and everyone else are getting laid less offense, it's not the right one. So if it's not porn, then what else might be going on? Another common sense explanation is that it's due to changes in work life balance. Working more should translate to alex

active sex life. However, the news Archived study also discounts this possibility, finding that unexpectedly working longer hours like watching porn, was linked to more sex. Instead. What we're seeing here has likely to do with changing marriage patterns. Studies have pretty consistently found that married people have to tend to

have more sex than single people. However, given that millennials are waiting longer and longer to get married, the average age of a first marriage is now closer to thirty, perhaps that's part of the reason why they're less sexually active. So, in other words, millennials are fucking less because they're doing the thing that Ben Shapiro says they should be doing, which is waiting longer to have sex and having fewer sexual partners. Like Again, like these people's understanding of everything

that's actually happening in society is completely off. Like it's the same way that people who are against abortion are also suppers control and you're like, okay, well are you gonna shoot all the babies? Like I don't understand, or the pregnant the pregnant women, you're killing the pregnant women. Got it. Yeah, It's just there's a lot of reasons. And it's not just like people are waiting longer for

marriage people. There's a number of reasons. Some people like suspect that like antidepressant medication has an impact on it um, but like as a general rule, like comprehensively, the argument that like this generation is somehow like more sexually depraved and active than before isn't the case. And the most you can say is that now people are talking a little bit more about some of the weird sex stuff

that they've always done. But like, I have a theory too as to why I think that millennials are fucking less. It's because of like the rampant insecurity and like being alive, because most people don't have a safety net. There's been a housing collapse, there's been a pandemic. I mean, there's been nothing since fucked up ship since nine eleven. Uh

was something that kids could remember and depressed. Yeah, so I feel like, yeah, sorry, Like if people don't fuck as much because they're like I don't have healthcare and I am housing and secure, good news been the world that you've enthusiastically tried to build has made people so miserable that they're fucking less. Yeah. Yeah, that's a pretty simple explanation. And my confirmation for that is like vacation syndrome.

You know, when you go on vacation. Suddenly you're like, oh my god, I'm like so fun and interesting and I do cool ship and I funk all the time here, and then you're like, oh, what's different? Oh? Is that that I'm feel not shackled to the capitalist, fucking like chains of my work week and the ways in which the place I live has ailed me? Oh? Oh that must be it. Okay, that's what makes you horny? Great? You know what makes me horny, Sophia, goods and services,

specifically the products and services that support this podcast. Nothing else gets me hard. But what is it? Is it? Exon mobile today, Sophie, I certainly hope not. Ah, Just if you want, if you want to get combination gun fentin al store. Well, now that that would get me pretty hard. Well, let's keep our fingers crossed. Speaking Robert's language there, I mean, I do prefer to lauded, but either way product Ah, we're back and we're talking about

Ben Shapiro's book on sex. So this first little bit ends with the paragraph the porn generation now inhabits a world where empowered means sex with no strings attached. The old faith and traditional morality was too bourgeoisie, archaic, sexist, and closed minded for this brave new world. Our new

God is tolerance of all behavior. Our new credo live and let live imagine thinking like live and let live is a bad yeah, or it is like negative and again just he's comprehensively wrong about every single factual claim he makes. Um like the Beatles wrote a literal fucking jam about it years ago, a real banger of a song. You really think that that ship is new? And also he's like, you know what sucks freedom, the exact freedom that I think, Wait a minute, I've talked myself into

a corner. I guess I love freedom, but I also hate it. So the next chapter or not chapter section of the book starts with as children, members of the porn generation are presented with morally subversive sexual education programs that increasingly younger ages. Nine year olds are lectured about condom the use, twelve year olds are pushed to make decisions about their sexual orientation. Fifteen year olds are expected

to have said goodbye to virginity. And again, I guess it is it is probably true that kids are getting better sex, said younger. Maybe that's part of why they're having less casual sex, is they're getting more sex, said and learning about std S. I don't know. I doubt it has an impact on that, but whatever the case, it's certainly not making them funck more, because as is stated,

they're fucking less. I mean, and also, like, I just have to be honest that I do remember when I turned twelve that somebody did come up to me and put a gun to my head and asked me to choose, uh my sexual orientation. And I panicked, you know, so I said, by and you know, now I'm obligated to like both men and women and you know, and just all all gender spectrums. Because they put that gun to my head, they made me decide at twelve they pushed me. And and that's that's how it is for all of

us who are bisexual. I was forced, at gunpoint at age twelve to watch mos def and the Hitchhiker's Guide movie and and and violently told to be aroused by it. And there's there's just you know, it did incalculable damage. Yes, yes, yes, um getting wet too, wild things, I would have to say,

as they're getting wet in the pool. Yeah yeah, I that's traumatic because I literally was being you know, tied to a chair and forced to watch that and masterbait and I I as a result of this childhood trauma, I can't watch Pedro Pascal in a movie without needing to turn the air conditioning on. So specific I am with you. I am in this. Literally, who isn't You don't even have to be by to be into Pedro Pascal? Okay? So um, all right, so been here, Okay, here's been

dropping a fact. I'm interested in this? So um? Oh actually okay. And college drug use, alcohol use, and sexual experimentation, or the norm, as one Harvard girl told me, we're jaded and it's fun fun to this girl meant trips to Amsterdam to smoke different types of marijuana. To others, fun means binge drinking or random sex. This fucking nerd ever invited you to a fucking party does not mean you have to be such a sour little dick about everything.

And also, let's let's be frank here. If you've ever been to California where Ben lives, Amsterdam wheat is weak ship. It is, it just is. It's way worse than fucking cal I was impressed by Amsterdam pot when I went there from Texas, but my god, the West anyway, whatever, Ben is comprehensively wrong again. All right, here's a Guardian article. They drink less, take far fewer drugs, and have made

teenage pregnancy a near anomaly. Generation Z, one of several terms used to describe the post millennial youthborn after nine, preferred juice bars to pub crawls, rank quality family time ahead of sex, and prioritize good grades before friendship, at least, according to a report published by the British Pregnancy Advisory Service last week and their studies in the US that find again most like millennials and Generation Z are drinking

less than previous generations, using less illicit drugs. The exception is fucking pain killers, because again, pain killers like numb emotional pain. So the fucking problem here, like Ben's focusing on, like they're having sex, they're smoking marijuana. No, Ben, they're addicted to fucking pain killers. Um, but that's the thing. They're actually doing more. And they're not doing it more

because we've we've made it okay to be degenerate. They're doing it more because pain killers are widely available and make lifeless miserable. And people who have spent a lot of time donating money to you are the same motherfucker's who were pushing those pain killers for fucking decades. Yeah,

it's it's cool. Um, yeah, okay, And so he goes on to cite a study from Details magazine and Random House that's a survey of college students had a one night stand for to cheated on a steady partner, to try to get someone drunk or high, to get them in bed, had slept with someone knowing they would never call again. Um. Oh so this is fun. So he he cites this stuff, and he says nothing about previous generations.

So again he's just talking about like how many millennials have had one night stands as opposed to being like, how does this compared to previous generations? Is this happening more often or less often? And the reason he doesn't actually do that comparatively is because they're they're doing it

less often. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, so he's just citing statistics about a single generation, uh, completely separate from like actually analyzing them with any historical context, which is, so, let people have a one night stand if they have one and they realize that that person isn't for them, Uh,

and that's it. That's better than fucking getting married to some woman you stocked when you were you know, in the fifties until she fucking forcibly agreed to marry you because she just got tired, and like, then you're in a relationship with her forever and neither of you are in love and she puts her head in the oven and your kids don't know what love is. So why don't you just let people have one night's stance? How

about that? Because Ben is an incredible journalist, he goes from citing this one study without any sort of context as as to how any of these things have changed over time, and then he provides us with a case study of a young woman whose college experience, uh he says, is emblematic of of young women these days. That young woman isn't real. The case study he cites is Charlotte Simmons, who is a character in a Tom Wolfe novel. Um Ben says that her story carries enormous way. Let me

present my factual uh study. The case is one of them boy called Harry Potter. Um, can you stop laughing? Because he is a proof that millennials are into witchcraft. Witchcraft is not funny, Okay, based on the case study of Harry Potter, it's incredible because also he's being like, this story carries weight because it's so true and like, okay, So your case study of how millennial women are behaving is a book by baby boomer author Tom Wolfe in two thousand four. Hey Ben, a couple of notes, What

is wrong with you? Some good fucking work. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, he goes on. Wow, this goes on for like a page and a half. Um, there are thousands of Charlotte Simmons is in the porn generation. When you're surrounded by couragement leading you to subjective morality, sexuality, and hedonism. When you can't retreat to a safe haven. It's simply easier to capitulate than to fight. Ha ha ha been yeah, Um okay, so let's uh, let's let's let's see what

else this book has in it. What his wife does, tries to have sex with her? Yeah, I mean it capitulates a strong word. Just come on my stomach. Just fucking just fine. That's what every woman loves. Been just I'll read the World Street Journal. Just fucking do it. M No, we have to take a two week break because of how how dry it was. We both got carpet burn um. Chapter two was titled fun with Bananas, and it opens with a quote by Dr Laura Schleschinger.

Oh god, why yeah, Well, because he's been Shapiro here's there's not a lot of how do you say, actual sources in a conservative community. No, and again you've seen his source. One of his major sources in chapter one is a fictional book about a fictional girl. Um, it's it's rad's mad because you were invited to her birthday party.

Ben was never invited to a birthday party. In public school systems across the country, they're indoctrinating kids to be sexual under the guise of protecting them when you know that's not true. I think it is indoctrination for left wing agendas. Great, Um, here's how it opens. The chapter opens this has been now. I was nine years old in fourth grade, says Katie acute, twenty two year old suburban girl from the Northeast. She's a brilliant Harvard law

student and a relatively happy person. At her upper middle class elementary school, she had her first brush with sex, said porn Generation style. One day, they told us they were going to teach us about family life. They didn't separate us or anything. They said that people could engage in oral, anal, and regular their sex, but didn't explain what the terms meant. I can't remember any moral judgments being made. They give us booklets with line drawings of

what happens is puberty progresses. They also told us that sex can get you pregnant, that it can give you diseases. There was a lot of focus on HIV. They said the only way to be safe was abstinence. Then they send all the girls to the nurse who told us that if we bled, we weren't dying, and ended out naxipads and Tampa. That's I wouldn't. I don't think that's perfectly reasonable. I actually think it's too much of a focus on abstinence. But like that's very conservative. That's extremely

conservative sex set. Like, I mean, it's just a bunch of it as facts. All of this is basically factual what the issue is. Again, I think an unreasonable focus on abstinence, but that's not technically incorrect. Yeah, I mean it is the only way not to get pregnant. Yeah, I don't think that's a wise focus. But nothing from studies that abstinence only education does not work. But all the other things were just facts to a conservative that

should be pretty inoffensive. Sex said, but obviously, and again I like that he focused on like they didn't separate the boys and the girls, which they did in my sex said, by the way, and my sex said was fucking useless anyway. Of course, he had to mention she's cute. They're like, she's she's good looking, and this is important because only good looking people agree with me. A total troll. I do love that it's both like Ben Shapiro, our

generation is too obsessed with sex, also been Shapiro. People need to know if I thought this source was hot. That's good journalism, fucking tool. It's incredible that he's supposedly is bringing as an example of Oh, she doesn't like how sexualized the education was, and then he immediately sexualized being like, she's cute as an actual journalist who's written for actual publications not owned by friends of my father. Um,

I want to note that student Katie doesn't like. The most common piece of editorial advice or editorial question you get just like, but was this source hot? How would you rank them? Usually in just parentheses you write like a number, you know, just like between a one and a ten, because people need to know. Notes. When I've looked at your journalistic efforts, I always just redline everything and I say hot or not. In the Martins, Yeah, as I talked to the mother of the dead boy,

she's a solid seven. The child regrettably was a three r I p uh god. So um, here's how this continues. Katie's parents were given the option to opt out of this explicit instruction for their nine year old, but they didn't. In fact, no one opted out in fourth grade and only one person opted out in the following year. Yars of Sex said According to Katie, she got sex said nine times over every year from fourth to twelfth grade. The classes were co ed all the way through. In

seventh grade, there were showing condoms. We made balloons out of them. They had a goody box full of birth control implements, condoms, diaphragms. Man, my school had none of that, and we had a bunch of teen pregnancies in seventh grade. Someone said that their friends in eighth grade were already having sex, but that wasn't common. If I had to guess, I'd say that by the end of high school, about fifteen percent of the kids in the class were having sex,

and they were all the popular kids. But I was in the advanced class where no one was really doing anything. Sounds pretty low. Actually, it sounds like maybe all that sex said lead to kids being less sexually active than I don't know, your parents generation were been helloo. But also, where's that fifteen percent coming? She doesn't know? No, Like, it's just Katie. She's some who fox in her grade. She's someone been Shapiro likes. So no one who has ever had sex is willing to talk to her. He

also clearly made her up fuckable. College also she does not exist. Also fits it's a fake person. Yeah no, wait, even come up with any details that would make it seem like she was real. Oh, actually, never mind, this takes a turn. We may have been unfair to Katie, although I still have questions. Katie believes that sex said is a good thing for kids to hear. The disease and pregnancy stuff was good because it scared people off.

They realized there were consequences to sex. There should be education about it so that there are less half truths and complete lives floating around, and people can make an informed decision because sooner or later they will do it. This is italicized by Ben because I don't think she's spoken italics. And the more info they have, the better they are equipped to determine when they will do it.

She also believes that parental inactivity makes taxpayer funded sex education more vital, citing her own parents as an example. My parents wouldn't have talked to me about this if I hadn't had sex in in school. By now at our house, if they start something, it's like, chill, I'm not fifteen anymore. Katie isn't a virgin. This has been now and she isn't ashamed of it. She became sexually active at age nineteen and has had three sexual partners.

There's nothing wrong with premarital sex, she tells me. I got over that idea. I feel I can make rational decisions armed with what I learned in nine years of the same class. Repeating sex is appropriate when the person is mentally ready to have sex, and with it's not a result of the pressure to fit in, and when she's mature enough to not have any regrets. Still, Katie doesn't want her parents to know more about her sexual history because they still think it's wrong, and I don't

want to open that can of worms. For that reason, her name has been changed to protect her privacy. Katie isn't above average girl and would be considered in this day and age as sexually well adjusted citizen. Her views on sex education and section general are shared by many of her peers. Premarital sex isn't seen as wrong as long as you're ready for it, and sex education is supposed to prepare you for it. With this kind of logic, it's not hard to see why kids are being sexualized

at younger and younger ages. The younger the kids are when sex, said against the more they know at a younger age. The more they know, the more prepared they are. The more prepared they are, the more societal approval they were received when they try to have sex, and societal approval means societal encouragement. She didn't have sex until she was nineteen. That's not early been, it's it's a perfectly reasonable age to lose your virginia. He's making the opposite

point the entire time. She's very reasonable. Everything she's saying is true and fine. It sounds like she's happy and didn't have sex before, she was ready for everything. Fine, then she went to Harvard. She's brilliant, she's clearly doing lunch. And then at the very end he's like, but tragically

Katie died, Like what do you what's left? Turn? And he's literally say, because of all the sex said Katie received, She waited until she was nineteen and had sex responsibly and is a happy, successful young person, So we shouldn't get get a sex said, because they fuck younger, like we might wind up like Katie in Harvard, she said, I took sex, said for nine years, and now I am in Harvard, and I have made responsible and happy

choices about my sex life. And he's like, I'm going to write a book so people can know the horror of what you've gone through, Katie. Yeah, it's it's fucking incredible. Um. He goes on to say the truth is that knowledge and information aren't cure alls. In fact, they can do serious damage to children. Wow, that is conservatism in a nutshell. Knowledge and information are dangerous for children. Don't give them that, Like does he not even remember the more you know?

Like NBC, God, it's like not even controversial to think that knowing more things is good. So fucking tool back, He's such a tool And I do I think we should apologize to Katie the fact that he the way he was leading this was I expected her to be like my generation wound up, sucked up because of all this. Like, No, she's seems like a very healthy person. Katie is great, and she she seems radly agreed to talk to Ben Shapiro because she's like, this loser needs to fucking talk

to a woman. Yeah, maybe this will help him be less miserable. Coulter. You know, it's very funny. Also, like the fact that she's had three sexual partners, been clearly considered scandalous, even though she's probably in her early twenties. Um, it's a pretty normal number. Um, even maybe good. Yeah, are you kidding me? Oh god? Um? You know who else fucks constantly? And I just mean knee deep in steaming genitalia. Oh I know the answer to this. The

purchasers of the upcoming goods and services. Well, yeah, the them and the ads just constantly fucking, both our advertisers and the people who buy it from them, boning NonStop. The whole sea of jism one whole, two, whole, three, whole, four, whole get it. Yeah, there's no such thing as too many holes when you're listening to these ads. Ah, we're back. It is incredible how barely we have scratched the surface of the wrongness of this book, because all of it

is just profoundly fucking wrong. Um. So Ben Shapiro has just dropped the visis statement of American conservatism, which is that knowledge and information are dangerous to children. Um. What supporters of the full frontal version of sex said don't understand is that knowledge is power, and only when the person armed with the knowledge is capable of making a fully rational and informed decision. Wait, what knowledge is power only when the person armed with the knowledge is capable

of making a fully rash and informed decision. What helps people make rational informed decisions? Been? Is it knowledge? Children are not capable of such a rational decision. I guess you could say Katie didn't fun till she was nineteen. So what are you talking about? The Clearly children are capable of understanding a lot. It sounds like she waited until she was an adult. Um and and ready, Uh,

it's just everything. Ben says, it's wrong, it's incredible. Um ka heim Nowitz, author of Ready or Not What Happens when we treat children as small adults, argues that anti culturalists, people who believe that childhood sexuality left on its own, free of social interference, will flourish and grow in healthy ways, have overestimated the choosing power of children trained of all

feeling but physical pleasure rationalized into fine power of children. Yeah, it's just book from J. K. Rowling that teaches you that it's not okay to be you. It's not okay to be you. Knowledge is bad. Children can't be trusted with knowledge because they're not rational, and they can't be rational until they're informed, but don't inform them of things. UM.

It's awesome. Um, it's just awesome in its wrongness. And I wish, you know, we I was kind of thinking this would be a one off and we would just get through this everything. It's so fascinatingly wrong, Sophia and so many it's too insane. There's no way, there's no way this is a one partner. No, no, we have to continue this for today. I want to just give everyone an overview of the rest of this book. So Chapter three Campus Carnality, Loser. What a fucking loser? College

life for the porn generation is the social liberals dream? Incredible? That's the opening sentences inte Ben to a party, So you can stop being such a fucking toolbag. Chapter four Pop Tarts that you're wondering what that is a reference to. It starts with official recipe for pop stardom. Start with a cute pubescent tend to twelve year old girl again creepy time to include cute. Next step two to three years virginal, wholesome, faux innocent play acting Disney Channel brand

highly recommended. Two years ambiguous, semi pedophilic, convorting, two years sexual discovery, dirty dancing, ex rated lyrics, and or promiscuity for extra sales. Just at a smattering of bisexuality. Voila, you've transformed yourself into a platinum record artist. Keep it up for twenty years and you might even win a Madonna Award for profit driven slettiness. Jesus Christ, I like that adding bisexuality increases your market value, because I have

not found that that's worked out for me. Robert um that increased your market value? Let me know. Yeah, no, no, I don't think it has. As chapter five where pimps and hose run free, I'm sure this is going to be the one where he talks about hip hop. I was gonna say this is fucking definitely throwing rocks at wrap. Yeah, oh god yeah. Chapter six teeny boppers. Okay your seven. Didn't you already talk about the pre professing girls? That was pop stars? I think Chapter seven aber Crappie and Bitch.

It opens with him yelling about Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl. Grade Chapter eight TV versus Virginity, Chapter nine Porn and Pop Joe versus the Volgano. Yeah, I think it is exactly. It's actually just word for word the script of that of that actually pretty good and kind of anti capitalist film. Chapter ten, The Lotion Picture Industry, God damn it. Chapter eleven Taking a stand, Oh god oh. Chapter twelve is a roundtable discussion with Michelle, Malcolm, Rod Drere,

and father John C. McCluskey from Opus Day. I don't know, wow, wow, Oh, Sophia. We're gonna have fun with this in the months to come. I can tell you that right now, what a delicious turn of events. Speaking of coming, you know what Ben Shapiro has never done in his life? Please a woman? Yeah? Yeah? Anybody really, Um, anybody, Sofia, This is all the time we have for today. Um, you wanna, you wanna, you wanna, you know, do your plugs with stuff. With the plugs

and the things. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at the Sophia so f I y A. And you can listen to my podcast about love and sex called Private Parts Unknown, where it's hosted by me and Pertney Kosak and we definitely fuck. And then the other podcast I co host is with Miles Gray and it's called where We Get high and talk about It's real fun. Well, um, check that out. I am returning Ben Shapiro's book Porn Generation for offensive content until next time. Um Sophia, thank

you for this and thank you all for listening. Until next time. Remember, don't ever fuck, and knowledge is deadly. I don't know what your books, burn your books. Christ