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The Future of Propellantless Space Travel

Nov 11, 202527 minSeason 2Ep. 265
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A new Phys.org feature explores the future of fuel-free propulsion, from proven gravity assists to emerging tech like solar, magnetic, and electric sails.

As rockets reach their fuel limits, these propellantless methods could unlock the path to deep-space and interstellar exploration.

Thank you for listening to Bedtime Astronomy — your guide to the cosmos. New episodes on space exploration, NASA missions & the latest astronomy breakthroughs.

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Okay, let's unpack this. When you think about space travel, what's the first image that comes to mind.

Speaker 3

For most people? I bet it's that classic rocket line.

Speaker 2

Exactly, fire, smoke, this enormous vehicle just fighting its way off the planet. Maybe you know a Soyuz lifting off from Bacon Ore.

Speaker 3

It's an incredible sight, no doubt powerful.

Speaker 2

Definitely powerful. But that image, that very picture of a rocket launch, it actually highlights this this huge fundamental problem, a challenge that's really held back our bigger dreams for exploring deep space or well over a century now.

Speaker 3

It really has because despite all our advanced engineering, rockets still work on a pretty simple.

Speaker 2

Principle Judent's third law.

Speaker 3

That's the one for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. You burn fuel, throw that mass backwards. Really fast, and.

Speaker 2

The reaction pushes the rocket forwards. Simple physics, simple.

Speaker 3

But brutal and inescapable really.

Speaker 2

And needing to throw a mass away like that. That leads straight to the big mathematical hurdle, the one constantin Siolkowski figured out way back in nineteen oh three.

Speaker 3

Ah, Yes, the famous rocket equation.

Speaker 2

It basically spells out this limit the mass ratio problem. And people call it a tyranny for a reason.

Speaker 3

It absolutely is a tyranny. It traps us in this well, this vicious cycle. See the fuel you need to speed up your spacecraft. It's heavy, really heavy.

Speaker 2

And you have to carry that fuel on the rocket.

Speaker 3

Which means you need more fuel just to lift the first batch of fuel.

Speaker 2

It gets exponential, right, Skiolkowski's equation just lays it bare that desired speed change engineers call it to v It depends exponentially on how much of your rocket is fuel versus payload.

Speaker 3

And exponential here is well, that's punishing.

Speaker 2

Maybe give us a sense of that. Like, if you want to double your speed leaving Earth orbit.

Speaker 3

Yeah, good point. Doubling your speed might mean you need say five times the fuel, not just twice as much, maybe even more Wow. And for really ambitious stuff deep space or you know, a big dream interstellar travel, you need huge delta V.

Speaker 2

So the amount of fuel you need just skyrockets.

Speaker 3

Exactly the mass fraction, the percentage of your rocket that's just propelling it gets closer and closer to one hundred percent.

Speaker 2

Like ninety nine percent fuel, one percent.

Speaker 3

Space ship, or even ninety nine point nine to nine percent fuel. You're basically launching fuel to launch fuel to launch fuel. It makes high speed interstellar travels seem well, not just hard, but almost physically impossible. With chemical rockets, we just can't carry enough energy that way.

Speaker 2

Okay, So that sets up our mission for this deep dive. Then the sources you've looked at, they're all about breaking that cycle, aren't they.

Speaker 3

Precisely the big much in driving this is what if spacecraft didn't have to carry their propellant, What if they could just leave the fuel behind, find another way, find another way. And that's exactly what's explored in this really comprehensive new review. It popped up on the arcs of Preprint Server by Roma Nya, kezerashphili.

Speaker 2

Arxif right, the Physics preprint place.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and this review looks carefully at different ways to get propellent less propulsion, so systems that don't burn on board masks, but instead tap into forces and energy that are already out there in space.

Speaker 2

We're not just talking about making rockets a bit more efficient here.

Speaker 3

No, no, not at all. This is a whole different way of thinking, a paradigm shift, really.

Speaker 2

So the big takeaway right up front, the.

Speaker 3

Crucial point from the review is that these propellantless methods, they aren't just improvements. They could actually enable missions that are completely impossible right now with conventional rockets.

Speaker 2

Especially if you want to go far, like really far beyond Pluto, kind.

Speaker 3

Of far exactly. Getting rid of that need for propellant escaping the mass trap, it changes everything, mission design, what's feasible, the whole game.

Speaker 2

Right, So where do we start. There's one method that's actually been used for quite a while, hasn't it? Less future tech, more clever maneuvering.

Speaker 3

That's right, the gravity assist. It's probably the simplest propellantless technique and it's got a proven track record going back decades. We could call it maybe the easiest theft.

Speaker 2

Huh, I like that a theft of momentum.

Speaker 3

Conceptually, yeah, that's pretty much it. It's elegant. Really. You time a spacecraft's flight path very very carefully, so it swings close by a big planet like Jupiter or Venus.

Speaker 2

You fly past it on a specific path, a hyperbolic trajectory, I think is called correct.

Speaker 3

And as it swings by, the spacecraft and the planet exchange a bit of momentum. The planet has so much momentum it barely.

Speaker 2

Notices but for the tiny spacecraft.

Speaker 3

For the spacecraft, it's huge. It effectively steals a tiny fraction of the planet's orbital momentum, and that translates into a significant speed boost for the probe, completely free in terms of fuel.

Speaker 2

It's like a cosmic sling shot conservation of energy, doing.

Speaker 3

The work exactly. And the textbook example, the one everyone points to, has to be the Voyager Probes.

Speaker 2

AH Voyager one and two. The Grand Tour.

Speaker 3

The Grand Tour, Yeah, launched back in the late seventies. They took advantage of this really rare alignment of the outer.

Speaker 2

Planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, the visit at all four didn't.

Speaker 3

They did, using one gravity assist after another to hop from planet to planet, getting boosts along the way, and doing that.

Speaker 2

With chemical rockets alone, carrying enough fuel impossible.

Speaker 3

Just completely impossible. The amount of fuel needed would have been astronomical. Voyager is just the stunning example of how powerful orbital mechanics can be.

Speaker 2

It really is brilliant, a testament to clever engineering and physics. But there's always a butt, isn't there. The review mentions the trade offs.

Speaker 3

There are always trade offs. Gravity assists work, We've mastered the technique, but they have some pretty big practical limitations.

Speaker 2

You can't just decide to do one whenever you feel like it.

Speaker 3

No apps not, That's the main constraint. You are completely dependent on the planets being in the right place at the right time.

Speaker 2

Relative to each other and relative to where you want.

Speaker 3

To go exactly. These alignments are where the Voyager opportunity, for instance, only comes around once every one hundred and seventy six years.

Speaker 2

Wow. So mission planners aren't just looking at next Tuesday. They're looking decades ahead mapping planetary positions.

Speaker 3

They use these things called pork chop plots.

Speaker 2

Pork chop plots.

Speaker 3

Serious, seriously, they're graphs that show the possible launch windows flight times and energy needed. They basically highlight how you only get these narrow windows maybe a few weeks every few years or even decades to launch if you want to use a specific gravity assist.

Speaker 2

Path, so very limited opportunities, and the path.

Speaker 3

Itself it's totally inflexible. Once you launch, you're locked into that trajectory. It's dictated by celestial mechanics, by the cosmic clock, not by where you might want to go explore next week.

Speaker 2

So great for preplan tours, but not for flexible on demand exploration. If you need continuous thrust or the ability to change course easily.

Speaker 3

You need something else. You need to look beyond planets and start tapping into the energy sources that are always there in space.

Speaker 2

Okay, which takes us to the next step, moving away from these occasional gravitational boosts towards something more constant. And this is where I think you said it gets really interesting, harnessing sunlight itself.

Speaker 3

Exactly solar sales. This shifts the concept from borrowing momentum from a planet to catching momentum from the most abundant energy source in the Solar system.

Speaker 2

Sunlight solar pressure. Now I know some listeners might hear solar sale and think of old sci fi. Is the physics really solid here? How can light push something if photons don't have mass?

Speaker 3

It's fundamental physics. Actually, photons, the particles of light, might have zero rest mass, but they definitely carry momentum. So when photons hit something, they transfer that momentum. If they get absorbed, they transfer some, But if they get reflected, which is what a shiny sale is designed to do, they transfer about twice the momentum, like bouncing a ball off a wall.

Speaker 2

Ah. Okay, so the sails like a giant mirror.

Speaker 3

Essentially, yes, a huge, incredibly thin reflective membrane. It catches the momentum from countless photons hitting it, But the.

Speaker 2

Push from a single photon must be minuscule.

Speaker 3

Oh, absolutely tiny, infantesimal. But the sun is always shining, so that tiny push is constant. It's there two entred and forty seven week after week.

Speaker 2

Year after year, and over time, that constant, gentle push adds up.

Speaker 3

It adds up, It builds velocity, gradually, slowly at first, but persistently, And the most beautiful part, it uses zero fuel once it's deployed. Zero.

Speaker 2

That dream became reality thanks to Japan Space Agency JAXA.

Speaker 3

Right yes, with the Ikros probe. That was a fantastic mission back in twenty ten, a real game changer.

Speaker 2

What did it do?

Speaker 3

JAXA successfully deployed the square sale in space, controlled it and used it to fly the probe all the way to Venus, powered only by sunlight.

Speaker 2

Wow, just push by light, just push by light.

Speaker 3

It proved the works in the real world, not just on paper or in in computer models.

Speaker 2

Okay, so proof of concept check. But the review it really digs into the challenges the downsides. The engineering side sounds.

Speaker 3

Delicate, extremely delicate. Material science is the huge bottleneck here. For a solar sale to be effective, it needs to be incredibly light, but also incredibly large. We talk about aerial density, the mass per square meter.

Speaker 2

You want that number to be tiny, as low as possible.

Speaker 3

We're talking materials that are almost like smoke gossamer thin, maybe just a few milligrams per square meter, but the sale itself needs to be vast. Think multiple football fields in area.

Speaker 2

So imagine trying to unfold something thinner than kitchen plastic wrap but kilometers across in space without ripping it exactly.

Speaker 3

And then you have to keep it tensioned, stable, pointed correctly. It's an engineer's nightmak.

Speaker 2

What are these materials? Usually made of.

Speaker 3

Specialized plastics, often polymers like CP one or types of polymide film coated with a thin layer of aluminum for reflectivity. But they also have to be incredibly tough.

Speaker 2

Tough against what space is empty, right.

Speaker 3

Not quite empty enough. They have to survive years, maybe decades, bathed in intense ultraviolet radiation from the Sun, which degrades materials over time. Plus there's constant bombardment by tiny dust particles, micrometeoroids.

Speaker 2

H space dust. Even a tiny speck hitting that thin film at high speed.

Speaker 3

Could potentially cause a tear, and enough small tiers could affect the sale's structure, its tension, its ability to generate thrust efficiently.

Speaker 2

Okay, so materials and deployment are hard, Yeah, but there's a more fundamental physics limitation too, right, tied to distance.

Speaker 3

Yes, And this is a big one sunlight and therefore the radiation pressure it creates follows the inverse square law, meaning.

Speaker 2

The further you get from the Sun, the weaker the push.

Speaker 3

Dramatically weaker. The forest drops off with the square of the distance. So if you go from Earth's distance one astronomical unit or AU out to Jupiter, which is about five away.

Speaker 2

The force isn't five times weaker.

Speaker 3

It's twenty five times weaker five square oach.

Speaker 2

That's a massive drop in acceleration.

Speaker 3

It really is. It makes solar sales potentially great permissions inside the orbit of Mars, maybe out to the asteroid belt, but for deep space, going out past Jupiter to Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or beyond.

Speaker 2

The push becomes almost nothing, pretty much negligible.

Speaker 3

Your acceleration just fades away. So for exploring the outer Solar System or heading towards the stars, solar cells alone probably aren't the answer.

Speaker 2

Okay, So if sunlight pressure gets too weak out there, what else is constantly flowing outwards from the Sun that we could potentially push.

Speaker 3

Against that leads us to the solar wind?

Speaker 2

Uh, not light pressure, but actual particles exactly.

Speaker 3

The solar wind is this continuous supersonic stream of charged particles plasma mostly protons and electrons, that flows out from the Sun all the time, and crucially, it carries significant momentum and keeps a decent density much further out than where sunlight pressure.

Speaker 2

Because okay, so if we can push against that, maybe we can get thrust further out. Yeah, this brings us to magnetic sales.

Speaker 3

Mag sales, correct magnetic sales. It's a totally different concept from reflecting.

Speaker 2

Light because there's no physical sail, right, you can't reflect charged particles with a sheet of plastic right.

Speaker 3

Instead of a physical membrane, a mag sail uses loops of superconducting wire to generate a really powerful, large magnetic field, an artificial magnetosphere, essentially like.

Speaker 2

Earth's magnetic field, but generated by the spacecraft sort of.

Speaker 3

Yes, And when the charged particles of the solar wind hit this magnetic field.

Speaker 2

They get deflected like how Earth's field deflects the solar wind exactly.

Speaker 3

That magnetic field pushes the plasma particles aside, and by Newton's third law again, pushing the solar wind plasma away pushes the spacecraft forward. You're essentially sailing on the solar wind using a magnetic bubble.

Speaker 2

That sounds incredibly cool, and it avoids the whole problem of deploying and maintaining huge, fragile sheets of material.

Speaker 3

That's a major theoretical advantage. Yes, No, worries about UV degradation or micrometeoroid tears on a physical sale.

Speaker 2

And because the solar wind doesn't drop off as quickly as light pressure.

Speaker 3

The potential acceleration profile, especially in the outer solar system, could be much better than a solar sale, better performance, potentially more durable.

Speaker 2

Okay, sounds great. What's the catch? The review mentioned a massive technological chasim ah.

Speaker 3

Yes, the catch is well, it's the scale, the sheer mind boggling scale required.

Speaker 2

How big are we talking?

Speaker 3

To generate a magnetic field strong enough and large enough to effectively interact with the relatively low density solar wind, especially far from the Sun, you need enormous superconducting.

Speaker 2

Coils define enormous.

Speaker 3

The review polling from technical studies suggests these superconducting loops might need to be get ready for this up to fifty kilometers in radius.

Speaker 2

Wait kilometers fifty radius.

Speaker 3

Fifty kilometer radius, meaning the whole structure the magnetic field generator would be one hundred kilometers across once deployed.

Speaker 2

One hundred kilometers. That's bigger than any structure we've ever put in space by orders of magnitude. That's not a spacecraft that's an orbiting installation.

Speaker 3

We're heating on the core problem. The scale is just immense, and that's only part one of the challenge. There's more to get that magnetic field strength efficiently. The coils need to be super conducting.

Speaker 2

Meaning they have zero electrical resistance, but that only happens when they're incredibly cold.

Speaker 3

Exactly cryogenic temperatures. We're talking temperatures close to absolute zero.

Speaker 2

So you have this one hundred kilometer wide structure made of superconducting wire that needs to be kept freezing cold in space where sunlight is still hitting it.

Speaker 3

Yes, you need a massive, complex and incredibly reliable cryogenic cooling system cryocolers running constantly for potentially decades.

Speaker 2

The power requirements alone for that cooling system must be huge, not to mention just building, launching, and deploying one hundred colimater.

Speaker 3

Structure precisely, and the superconducting wire itself. It needs to be structurally strong enough to handle the immense magnetic forces trying to tear the coil apart while staying superconducting while being lightweight. We'd need breakthroughs in material science just for the wire.

Speaker 2

So the technology to build the structure, deploy it power the cooling maintain those temperatures reliably for years.

Speaker 3

It simply doesn't exist yet, not even close. We're researching things like high temperature superconductors or HTS, which could operate it slightly warmer though still very cool temperatures, reducing the cooling load a.

Speaker 2

Bit, but still needing significant cool.

Speaker 3

Well, absolutely compared to the ambient temperature of space. Even HTS needs serious refrigeration, the power generation, the thermal management, the deployment mechanisms for something that size. It puts mag sales firmly in the far future breakthrough category. For now.

Speaker 2

It's an incredible concept, but the engineering hurdles are just astronomical. Yeah, okay, So if the magsail is yes, potentially too big, too heavy, too complex with the cryogenics, is there a lighter way to push against that solar wind?

Speaker 3

Well, that's the thinking behind the next concept, electric sales or E sales electric not magnetic.

Speaker 2

How does that work?

Speaker 3

E sales try to achieve a similar goal using the solar wind, but with a different physical principle and hopefully a much lighter structure. Instead of a magnetic field, they use electric fields.

Speaker 2

Okay, how do you make an electric field push things in space.

Speaker 3

The idea is to deploy a number of very long, very thin conductive wires or tethers radially outwards from the spacecraft, maybe spun out using centrifugal.

Speaker 2

Force kilometers long These.

Speaker 3

Wire potentially tens of kilometers long, yes, but very lightweight. Then you use an electron gun on board the spacecraft.

Speaker 2

An electron gun what forour to.

Speaker 3

Shoot electrons away from the spacecraft and the tethers, leaving the tethers with a strong positive electric charge, maybe thousands of volts positive.

Speaker 2

Ah. I see where this is going. The solar wind is mostly positively charged protons.

Speaker 3

Exactly like charges repel, So the positively charged tethers create an electric field around them that repels the incoming positive protons of the solar wind.

Speaker 2

So you're pushing the solar wind away using electrostatics, not magnetism.

Speaker 3

Precisely, and again Newton's third law means pushing the wind away pushes the cell forward away from the Sun.

Speaker 2

And the big advantage here is replacing those massive crygenic superconducting coils with.

Speaker 3

Just long, thin wires and an electron gun, potentially a much much lighter system than a magsail. That's the main appeal. Escaping some of that enormous mass and complexity.

Speaker 2

Sounds like a definite improvement in terms of mass, but the review probably points out new challenges too.

Speaker 3

No free lunch, No free lunch in space propulsion. Unfortunately, yeah, E sales swap one set of problems for another. The review highlights issues with again materials and also power.

Speaker 2

Let's start with the materials. Kilometers of thin wires floating in space sounds fragile.

Speaker 3

They would be very thin, to say, mass very long to create a large enough for pulseivaria. That makes them incredibly vulnerable to micrometeoroids. Again space dust YEP, a single hit probably wouldn't be catastrophic. The designs often involve multiple tethers for redundancy, but cumulative damage over years from tiny impacts could degrade the tethers, potentially sever them, or cause

oscillations that make navigation tricky. Maintaining the integrity of potentially hundreds of kilometers of deployed wire over decades is a huge challenge.

Speaker 2

Okay, so durability is one issue. What about power? You mentioned electron.

Speaker 3

Gun right, If mag sales need power for cryogenic cooling, E sales need continuous significant electrical power to run that electron gun.

Speaker 2

Why continuously don't you just charge the wires once?

Speaker 3

If only it were that simple. Space isn't a perfect vacuum. There's plasma everywhere. The electrons in the surrounding solar wind plasma are attracted to the positive tethers and will try to neutralize their charge. It's called plasma screening.

Speaker 2

So you're constantly fighting to keep the wires charged up.

Speaker 3

Exactly, you need to keep pumping electrons off the wires with the electron gun to maintain that high positive potential against the surrounding plasma. That requires a pretty beefy power source multikilowatt level, running constantly, efficiently and reliably for the entire mission duration potentially decades.

Speaker 2

So you trade the mag sales challenge of huge scale and cryo cooling for the E sales challenge of extreme wire fragility and continuous high power generation.

Speaker 3

That's a good summary of the trade off. Yes, still requires advanced materials, reliable long term power systems. Significant hurdles remain.

Speaker 2

Okay, Wow, we've covered quite a range here, from the tried and true gravity assist to light sales to these more exotic magnetic and electric concepts pushing against the solar wind. Let's try and break it all together. What's the synthesis here? What does the review conclude when looking at all these options.

Speaker 3

Well, when you lay them all out gravity assist, solar sale, MAG sale, E sale, you see this clear spectrum. On one end you have gravity assists proven working now but totally inflexible. On the other end, you have mag sales and E sales potentially much higher performance, especially for deep space, but requiring technology that is frankly way beyond our current capabilities. Solar sales are somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 2

Let's quickly recap the killer limitation for each based on the review.

Speaker 3

Okay, gravity assists work great, but you're tied to rare planetary alignments, no flexibility, no autonomy.

Speaker 2

Solar sales proven concept, steady thrust near the Sun, but the materials are incredibly delicate and the thrust just dies off way too fast with distance because of the inverse square law useless for the outer solar system.

Speaker 3

Are beyond right, then mag sales great potential performance, avoids material degradation, pushes against the solar wind further out, but the showstopper is the scale those fifty kilometer radius superconducting coils needing constant cryogenic cooling just not feasible today, and E.

Speaker 2

Sales lighter than mag sales, also uses the solar wind, but you trade the massive coils for potentially fragile kilometers long tethers and the need for continuous high power electron guns to keep them charged. Still big tech hurdles exactly.

Speaker 3

So the big conclusion from the review, looking across all of this.

Speaker 2

What does it all mean for actually getting out there?

Speaker 3

It means there's no silver bullet, No single propellantless method solves all the problems right now. Each one has a critical flaw, whether it's flexibility, fragility, distance limits, or just requiring currently non existent technology.

Speaker 2

So the path forward probably isn't picking just one winner.

Speaker 3

Very unlikely. The review strongly suggests the future probably lies in combining these approaches. Maybe use a powerful launch stage, then a solar sale to get good initial acceleration out of the inner solar system, and.

Speaker 2

Then maybe deploy an E sale or mag sale once a solar cell becomes ineffective to continue accelerating using the solar wind.

Speaker 3

Something like that, or using gravity assists strategically in combination with continuous low thrust propulsion, hybrid approaches seem much more plausible than relying on a single magic solution, and.

Speaker 2

That idea needing these advanced propellantless methods, perhaps in combination, becomes absolutely critical when we talk about the really big goals, doesn't it, Yeah, interstellar travel.

Speaker 3

It's non negotiable for interstellar really. The review hammers this home. If you're serious about reaching another star system within a human lifetime or even a couple of centuries, chemical rockets just won't cut it. Because of that Silkovski mass ratio limit.

Speaker 2

You simply can't carry enough fuel.

Speaker 3

You can't, So leaving the propellant behind isn't just a nice to have for interstellar missions, it's probably the only way it could ever be feasible. It fundamentally changes the challenge.

Speaker 2

From a challenge of energy storage fuel to a challenge of energy harvesting light, wind, gravity.

Speaker 3

Perfectly put, it becomes about building incredibly efficient, large scale energy harvesting structures that can operate reliably for centuries.

Speaker 2

Which suddenly makes those huge engineering hurdles. The fifty kilometer coils, the super durable tethers. The decades long power sources seem less like science fiction pipe dreams.

Speaker 3

And more like the necessary entry ticket. They define the scale of engineering required if we actually want to become an interstellar species. It's less about building slightly better rockets and more about inventing fundamentally new ways to build and power things in space.

Speaker 2

This has been a really fascinating journey breaking free conceptually, at least from the tyranny of the rocket equation. We've looked at gravity assists, solar sales, magnetic sales, electric sales, each with its promise and its major roadblocks, flexibility, materials, scale, power.

Speaker 3

And maybe as we wrap up, it's worth focusing on that biggest technological gap, the mag sale scale. For instance, if we accept that something like a fifty kilometer superconducting structure kept near absolute zero for decades might be what it takes for truly fast deep space or interstellar travel, pose is a really interesting question for you, the listener, to think about. Go on, what kind of fundamental science needs to be discovered first before we can even think

about designing the propulsion system. What breakthrough in say, material science, may be practical room temperature superconductors or in compact ultralong life power generation, maybe fusion power plants small enough for spacecraft. What needs to happen in the lab before the engineers can even start drawing up the blueprints for these proportion systems.

Speaker 2

It's a great point. We might not just be waiting for better engineering. We might be waiting for a whole new piece of physics or material science to unlock the path forward, the invention that enables.

Speaker 3

The invention exactly. The next leap in propulsion might start not in a rocket factory, but maybe with a discovery in condensed matter physics or advanced energy research. It really shifts your perspective on where the bottleneck lies.

Speaker 2

A powerful thought. Indeed, we need the science before we can build the sales to truly navigate the void. Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into leaving the fuel behind U

Speaker 3

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