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POET Mission: Finding Planets Around Ultracool Stars

May 24, 202638 minSeason 3Ep. 415
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Canada’s upcoming POET micro-satellite mission, set for a 2029 launch, aims to detect Earth-sized and super-Earth planets orbiting ultracool dwarf stars using transit photometry.

By monitoring tiny dips in starlight, the mission will scan a curated list of over 3,000 nearby stars, leveraging a larger telescope and a wide wavelength range from ultraviolet to infrared.

The goal is to identify habitable-zone candidates that can later be studied for atmospheric biosignatures with the James Webb Space Telescope, advancing the search for potentially life-supporting worlds.

Thank you for listening to Bedtime Astronomy — your guide to the cosmos. New episodes on space exploration, NASA missions & the latest astronomy breakthroughs.

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful slumber under the night sky.

Speaker 2

If you want to find the next Earth, like a literal second home for humanity out there in the galaxy, yeah, the absolute worst place you could look is right around a star that looks exactly like our son.

Speaker 3

I mean, which sounds completely backward, right, because for decades that was the whole strategy, right.

Speaker 2

You assume you wanted a carbon copy of our solar system. Yeah, a nice, stable yellow Sun and a rocky little planet just sitting at the exact right distance exactly.

Speaker 3

But the data has completely forced us to basically tear up that playbook. Finding a twin of Earth around a twin of the Sun is just well, with our current tach it's practically.

Speaker 2

Impossible, which is so frustrating. But that's why today we're talking about venturing into I guess you could call it the cosmic graveyard.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

Speaker 2

We're looking at these things called failed stars, and we're getting into all this because of a Canadian space mission called POOAA, which is launching in twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 3

Right, and POUAIT is totally abandoning the blinding light of those bright yellow suns. It is a highly optimized, really aggressive strategy to search in the shadows basically.

Speaker 2

Okay, so let's lay out the scoreboard first, because the numbers here they really tell a super frustrating story for astronomers. Oh, absolutely, right, Now, humanity has confirmed nearly six thousand, three hundred exoplanets.

Speaker 3

Which is just a staggering number to even think about.

Speaker 2

It's massive. Just pause and think about that. Over six thousand alien worlds orbiting other stars that we know exists for sure. But out of that huge catalog, only two hundred and twenty three are actually designated as terrestrial.

Speaker 3

Right, meaning they're rocky planets with a solid surface like Earth or Mars.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's two hundred and twenty three. So you look at a ratio like that and it's like, what roughly three percent roughly.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's so.

Speaker 2

Easy to jump to the conclusion that rocky planets are just as super rare anomaly in the universe.

Speaker 3

But that is a total trap. You really can't look at it that way.

Speaker 2

Really, why not, Because.

Speaker 3

The vast majority of those six thousand worlds are gas giants or ice giants. There are these massive, bloated planets that don't even have a solid surface, right, So.

Speaker 2

We're talking about places like Jupiter or Neptune.

Speaker 3

Exactly, environments where the atmospheric pressure is so intense it would you know, it would literally crush anything long before it ever reached some hypothetical core.

Speaker 2

So the fact that we have thousands of gas giants and barely any rocky ones.

Speaker 3

It tells us practically nothing about what's actually out there in the universe, But it tells us absolutely everything about the limitations of our own telescopes.

Speaker 2

Okay, so it's classic selection bias. It's like, uh, if you drag a huge fishing net through the ocean, but the net has these massive holes in it right right, you pull it up, You're like, wow, the ocean only contains giant tuna, but really all the small fish just slipped right through the gaps.

Speaker 3

That's a perfect analogy. The tools we rely on are heavily biased toward finding the loudest, biggest things in the room.

Speaker 2

Okay, so unpack that for us. Why are our tools so biased?

Speaker 3

Well, it comes down to the physics of exoplanet detection. Planets don't emit their own light, right, at least not in the visible spectrum. They only reflect the light of their host star.

Speaker 2

Right, there's just bouncing light back at us.

Speaker 3

Yeah, So direct imaging, like actually pointing a telescope and taking a photograph of a planet, is unbelievably difficult. It's like trying to photograph a firefly buzzing right next to.

Speaker 2

A lighthouse from like fifty miles away.

Speaker 3

Exactly, the glare from the lighthouse the star just completely washes out the tiny speck of light from the planet.

Speaker 2

So if we can't just take a picture of them, how are we finding thousands of them?

Speaker 3

We have to rely on indirect methods we observe the effect that the planet has on its star. Historically, we leaned really heavily on something called the radial velocity method.

Speaker 2

A radio velocity Okay, what is that? In plain English?

Speaker 3

It's basically measuring a microscopic wobble as a planet orbits a star. It's gravity actually tugs on the star a little bit and makes the star wobble back and forth in space.

Speaker 2

Oh wow, so the star is actually moving.

Speaker 3

Just a tiny bit. Yeah. And obviously a massive bulky gas giant like Jupiter is going to yank on that star a lot harder than a tiny speck of rock like Earthwood.

Speaker 2

So the wabble is bigger.

Speaker 3

The wabble is much bigger. The Doppler shift in the starlight is way more pronounced, and our telescopes can catch that signal pretty easily.

Speaker 2

Okay, that makes total sense. Big planet equals big wobble equals easy to spot. But what about the other method, the one that really blew the doors open.

Speaker 3

You're talking about the transit method.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the transmit because that's what the Kepler mission used.

Speaker 3

Right exactly. Kepler changed everything. And the transit method is conceptually super simple. It's just an eclipse.

Speaker 2

So a planet just passes in front of the star.

Speaker 3

Right, It passes directly between our telescope and the host star, and it blocks a tiny, tiny fraction of the starlight.

Speaker 2

Okay, but let's run the numbers on that, because I feel like people underestimate how hard this is if we take an Earth sun analog.

Speaker 3

Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2

Let's say there's an alien astronomer hundreds of light years away staring at our Sun and hoping to catch the Earth transitting. Right, how much light does the Earth actually block?

Speaker 3

About zero point zero percent.

Speaker 2

One hundredth of one percent.

Speaker 3

Exactly one hundredth of one percent of the Sun's total light. And here's the kicker. That dip only happens once a year.

Speaker 2

Because our orbit takes a year, right.

Speaker 3

And the transit itself only lasts for a few hours.

Speaker 2

That is insane. It's literally like trying to detect a single moth flying in front of a stadium spotlight from miles of miles away. Yes, and you're doing it purely by measuring the drop in the spotlights overall glare.

Speaker 3

Which is incredibly hard. And to make it worse, you can't just spot it once to actually confirm an orbit. You need to see multiple transits.

Speaker 2

You're waiting years and years just to verify a.

Speaker 3

Signal, years, and you're looking for a signal that is barely distinguishable from background static.

Speaker 2

The static. Let's talk about the static, because the stars themselves are not making this easy for us.

Speaker 3

Not at all. Stars are not uniform perfectly static light bulbs. They are violently churning spheres of plasma. Right, They have massive sunspots that rotate into view, and those sunspots are dark, so they block light and actually mimic a planetary transit.

Speaker 2

Oh so a sunspot can look like a fake planet exactly.

Speaker 3

Plus they have solar flares and internal pulsations that cause their brightness to wildly fluctuate all the time.

Speaker 2

So you're trying to find a zero point zero one percent dip caused by an Earth sized planet amidst all this chaotic, boiling stellar noise.

Speaker 3

It's an immense challenge. But conversely, if you're a looking at a Jupiter sized planet around a sun like star, it blocks about one whole percent of.

Speaker 2

The light, which is huge by comparison.

Speaker 3

Right, that is a massive, unmistakable signal compared to the noise floor.

Speaker 2

Okay, so knowing all of this, the need for a specialized tool becomes super obvious. If the fishing net has holes that are too big, you don't just keep casting it over and over hoping for a miracle.

Speaker 3

No, you build an entirely different net.

Speaker 2

Which brings us to the entire driving philosophy behind the POET mission. Yes, poet T it stands for Photometric Observations of Exoplanet Transits. Like we said, it's a Canadian microsatellite launching in twenty twenty nine and its sole purpose is to find Earth size and super Earth exoplanets.

Speaker 3

But the brilliant thing is they aren't trying to achieve this by building some monstrously huge mirror.

Speaker 2

Right, because building a bigger camera to stare at the same stadium spotlight doesn't actually solve the fundamental contrast problem, right exactly.

Speaker 3

The genius of po is that it changes the spotlight itself.

Speaker 2

Okay, explain that how do you change the spotlight?

Speaker 3

Instead of looking at G type yellow dorks like our sun, the mission is targeting what astronomers classify as ultracool dwarfs.

Speaker 2

Ultracool dwarfs.

Speaker 3

Okay, So, going back to your analogy, if you swap out that massive stadium spotlight for a dim, little.

Speaker 2

Desk lamp, oh I see where this is going.

Speaker 3

Right, and that same moth flies in front of the desk lamp, the percentage of light that gets blocked absolutely skyrockets.

Speaker 2

Because the background light is so much smaller.

Speaker 3

Exactly, the fractional dip in brightness goes from that imperceptible zero point zero one percent to a highly measurable one percent or even more.

Speaker 2

That is such a clever hack. So let's really dig into what makes a star an ultra cool dwarf, because targeting the runts of the stellar litter is just a fascinating approach.

Speaker 3

To me, it's the best strategy we have right now.

Speaker 2

So when we look at the stellar classification system, it's essentially a temperature scale, right, that also correlates with mass and size.

Speaker 3

That's right, Our sun is a G type star. K type stars are a little bit smaller, they're cooler, and they glow with a slightly orange hue.

Speaker 2

Okay, and M type M.

Speaker 3

Type stars are the red dwarfs. They're even smaller and cooler still. But then you get to the bottom of the barrel, the brown dwarfs.

Speaker 2

And these are the ones Pew is specifically hunting. The literature always refers to brown dwarfs as failed stars. Yes, what does that actually mean? What are the physical mechanism of a star failing?

Speaker 3

To understand the failure, you really have to look at how a star is born. In the first place, A star begins as this massive collapsing cloud of hydrogen, gas and dust.

Speaker 2

Right, gravity is just pulling everything together.

Speaker 3

Exactly as gravity pulls all that material inward, the pressure and the temperature at the very core begin to styrocket, and if the collapse in cloud has enough mass, the core temperature reaches a critical threshold, which.

Speaker 2

Is what like millions of degrees.

Speaker 3

Around ten million degrees celsius. At that point, the kinetic energy of the hydrogen atoms is so ridiculously high that they actually overcome their nat electromagnetic repulsion.

Speaker 2

They stop pushing each other away, right.

Speaker 3

They slam together, and they fuse into helium. This is nuclear fusion, and it releases a staggering amount of energy.

Speaker 2

Like billions of nuclear bombs going off.

Speaker 3

Constantly, pretty much, and the outward pressure from that continuous nuclear explosion perfectly balances the inward crush of gravity. When that balance is achieved, a true star ignites.

Speaker 2

But a brown dwarf just doesn't have the gravitational muscle to reach that ignition point precisely.

Speaker 3

That is the issue. A brown dwarf gathers a substantial amount of mass, far more than a gas giant like Jupiter, but it falls agonizingly short of the mass required to trigger sustain hydrogen fusion.

Speaker 2

So it gets super hot, but it never quite catches fire.

Speaker 3

Right. The core gets incredibly hot, and it might briefly fuse some deterium, which is like a heavier isotope of hydrogen, but it can't maintain the main event.

Speaker 2

So if it doesn't have that outward nuclear explosion, why doesn't gravity just crush it into a black hole or something.

Speaker 3

What stops the c is actually this bizarre quantum mechanical phenomenon called electron degeneracy pressure.

Speaker 2

Electron degeneracy pressure that sounds intense.

Speaker 3

It is basically, the electrons in the core physically refuse to be squeezed any tighter. It's a fundamental rule of quantum physics.

Speaker 2

So it's just trapped in this weird middle ground.

Speaker 3

Exactly. It's too massive to be a regular planet, but it completely lacks the nuclear engine to be a true star. It just sits there, glowing faintly from the residual heat of its own gravitational collapse, like a dying ember. Yes, just slowly cooling off over billions of years.

Speaker 2

And because they lack that internal engine pushing outward. Brown dwarfs and even the smallest M type red dwarfs are physically tiny compared to our Sun.

Speaker 3

Right, Oh, incredibly tiny. An ultra cool dwarf is roughly ten percent of the Sun's diameter.

Speaker 2

Ten percent, So in terms of actual physical volume, how big is that?

Speaker 3

They are barely larger than Jupiter?

Speaker 2

Wow? Okay, So that brings the desk lamp analogy into sharp mathematics. Because the surface area of a star is proportional to the square of its radius, right right, So if you shrink the star's diameter to ten percent of the suns, its surface area actually shrinks to just one percent.

Speaker 3

Of the signs exactly. You put an Earth sized planet in front of that tiny surface area, and suddenly it's casting a massive shadow relative to the star's total output.

Speaker 2

You've completely rewritten the geometry of the transit. You've skewed it to favor finding small, rocky worlds.

Speaker 3

It's an elegant hack of astrophysical geometry. Honestly, you maximize the planet to star size ratio by creating that drastically higher contrast. You can use a relatively small, cost effective instrument in space to detect signals.

Speaker 2

It signals that normally you'd need what a massive, billion dollar telescope.

Speaker 3

To see exactly. It lets you do incredible science on a budget.

Speaker 2

Cost effective is definitely the operative phrase there, because the PA team isn't starting from scratch on this hardware.

Speaker 3

No, they have a huge head start, right.

Speaker 2

They are building on the legacy of these previous Canadian microsatellites, specifically one called MOST which launched back in two thousand and three and Neosat, which launched in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3

Right, And when people hear the word satellite, they usually picture, you know, a school bus covered in gold foil.

Speaker 2

Yeah, something massive floating around.

Speaker 3

But microsatellites are a different breed entirely. They're essentially the size of a suitcase or maybe a small washing machine.

Speaker 2

A washing machine in space.

Speaker 3

Basically, but the science they yield is entirely disproportionate to their physical footprint. Take MOST for example, it stood for Microvariability and Oscillations of Stars.

Speaker 2

Which sounds very complicated. What was it actually trying to do?

Speaker 3

Initially it was designed for astro seismology. Okay, so studying starquakes exactly, studying the acoustic waves bouncing around inside stars to determine their age and what they're made of. But it proved to be so incredibly precise that the team actually pivoted it to exoplanet research and.

Speaker 2

It ended up making a huge discovery.

Speaker 3

Oh, one of the most foundational discoveries in early exoplanet atmospheric science. O.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I want to get into this because this discovery involved a hot Jupiter exoplanet orbiting a star called HD twenty zero nine four five eight kitchen name super catchy. So most observe this system and discover that this massive, blistering planet had a remarkably low albedo.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

And albedo is just the measure of reflectivity, So like Earth has an albedo of about zero point three, meaning it reflects thirty percent of the sunlight that hits it.

Speaker 3

Mostly because of our clouds and ice caps.

Speaker 2

Right. But what most found was that this hot Jupiter was absorbing almost everything.

Speaker 3

It was darker than fresh asphalt. It had an albedo nearing absolute zero.

Speaker 2

This is so weird to think about a giant, pitch.

Speaker 3

Black planet, right because prior to that observation, there was this working assumption that hot jupiters might have highly reflective bright cloud decks, you know, maybe made of silicates or these exotic chemical compounds.

Speaker 2

Like Venus, but way bigger and hot.

Speaker 3

Exactly, Venus is super bright. But most proved that the atmosphere of this specific hot Jupiter was absorbing the star's energy directly.

Speaker 2

So what does a pitch black atmosphere actually look like? Chemically?

Speaker 3

It suggested a clear, totally cloudless upper atmosphere where alkali metals things like sodium and potassium were just absorbing all the visible light. Or perhaps it had incredibly dark light absorbing particulate hazes.

Speaker 2

So it's basically covered in cosmic.

Speaker 3

Smog pretty much. And that single finding forced atmospheric modelers to completely rethink how energy is deposited and circulated in these extreme.

Speaker 2

Environments, all from a suitcase sized satellite exactly. Then you had neosat follow up a decade later, tracking near Earth asteroids in space Debray, and both of these missions achieved world class science using telescopes that were only fifteen centimeters in diameter.

Speaker 3

Which is tiny.

Speaker 2

It's literally a six inch mirror. You can buy larger telescopes at a hobby shop.

Speaker 3

You really can.

Speaker 2

So now Pubitty is bumping that up to a twenty centimeter telescope, which is, you know, slightly bigger. But the real leap isn't just the size of the mirror.

Speaker 3

Is it, No, not at all. The real upgrade is the wavelengths of light it's engineer to actually see.

Speaker 2

Right, because most in neosat worked invisible.

Speaker 3

Light like our eyes do.

Speaker 2

But POET is expanding into the near ultraviolet, visible, near infrared, and short wavelength infrared.

Speaker 3

And that shift into the infrared is absolutely non negotiable given the targets they're going after.

Speaker 2

Because they're looking at those ultra cool dwarfs.

Speaker 3

Right, If you look at an ultracool dwarf invisible light, you're essentially looking at a blank wall. They emit incredibly little visible radiation.

Speaker 2

Why is that? Why are they so dim visually?

Speaker 3

It comes down to Ween's displacement law. It's a fundamental principle of thermal radiation. Basically, it states that the wavelength at which an object emits the most light is inversely proportional to its temperature.

Speaker 2

Okay, let's break that down.

Speaker 3

Sure, so our sun burns at roughly fifty five hundred degrees celsius, right, because of that specific temperature. Its peak emission is right in the middle of the visible spectrum yellow green light, which.

Speaker 2

Is why our eyes of all to see that specific light exactly.

Speaker 3

But brown dwarfs and red dwarfs are vastly cooler. Their surface temperatures might only be two thousand or maybe three thousand degrees, so.

Speaker 2

They aren't burning nearly as hot.

Speaker 3

Because they are cooler, the peak of their emission spectrum shifts heavily to the right. It moves entirely out of the visible spectrum and deep into the infrared.

Speaker 2

Oh I see.

Speaker 3

So if you want to study these stars, and more importantly, if you want to capture enough photons from them to measure a one percent dip when a planet transits, you have to tune your instrument to the frequency they are actually broadcasting on.

Speaker 2

You have to speak your language right.

Speaker 3

You need sensors capable of detecting heat radiation.

Speaker 2

Basically, but doing that requires a highly specialized detector. You can't just put a standard CCD chip from a digital point and shoot camera into space and hope to see infrared.

Speaker 3

No the thermal noise which is blind the sensor.

Speaker 2

And this brings up a really crucial question for me. A twenty cent meter telescope is still incredibly small, very small. We have ten meter telescope sitting on mountains right here on Earth, massive observatories. Why bother sending an eight inch mirror into orbit when we could just use a giant ground based observatory to look for these infrared transits?

Speaker 3

Because the Earth's atmosphere is an absolute nightmare for infrared astronomy.

Speaker 2

A nightmare.

Speaker 3

How well, First you have the turbulence of the atmosphere itself, which causes the light from the star to waver.

Speaker 2

And twinkle right the twinkling stars.

Speaker 3

That twinkling introduces an unacceptable level of noise into the photometric data. It ruins the precision. But the really insurmountable barrier is.

Speaker 2

Water vapor, water vapor like clouds.

Speaker 3

Even just the invisible moisture in the air. The water molecules in Earth's atmosphere act like a solid brick wall for many bands of infrared light. They physically absorb the incoming infrared radiation for it ever reaches the ground.

Speaker 2

Wow, So our atmosphere is effectively opaque to the very light po it needs to see.

Speaker 3

Exactly the problem. You could build a one hundred meter telescope on the ground, and it still wouldn't matter for certain infrared wavelengths because the signal simply doesn't reach the mirror.

Speaker 2

It's getting soaked up by the sky.

Speaker 3

Right, So, by placing a small, highly stabilized twenty centimeter telescope in the vacuum of space, far above all that water, vapor and atmospheric.

Speaker 2

Turbulence, it's just perfectly clear.

Speaker 3

Poet operates in pristine silence. It can gather uncorrupted photons with a precision that ground based observatories can literally only dream of.

Speaker 2

Okay, so that makes perfect sense. We have our perfect, highly tuned infrared camera in orbit. The next big hurdle is figuring out where exactly to point it.

Speaker 3

Yes, target selection is everything, because you can't just sweep the sky blindly with a tiny satellite and hope a transit happens to occur while you're looking.

Speaker 2

Space is too big.

Speaker 3

Way too big, and telescope time is expensive.

Speaker 2

You need a highly curated list, which brings us to the Peel input catalog.

Speaker 3

The creation of this catalog is an exercise in ruthless ruthless optimization. Howso, the initial sweep identified over seven thousand two hundred candidate ultra cool dwarfs.

Speaker 2

Okay, that's a lot of potential targets.

Speaker 3

It is, but like you said, telescope, time and space is a precious, finite resource. Poet's primary mission timeline.

Speaker 2

Is just a year, oh, just one year, one year, So.

Speaker 3

Pointing the satellite at a star that has a low probability of yielding a clean transit is a total waste of multimillion dollar hardware. They had to aggressively filter that list down to just over three thousand candidate.

Speaker 2

Okay, so how do they narrow it down? The first major filter was proximity, right.

Speaker 3

Right, proximity is huge.

Speaker 2

They restricted the final catalog to candidates located within one hundred parsecs from Earth, and just to bypass the astronomical jargon here, a parsec is about three point two six late years right, So one hundred par six is roughly three hundred and twenty six light years in galactic terms. This is basically our front porch.

Speaker 3

Oh entirely, the Milky Way is one hundred thousand light years across. We are exclusively looking at our immediate neighbors, So.

Speaker 2

Why restrict it so much?

Speaker 3

Why not look further it's dictated by the inverse square law of light. Even though POET is optimized for infrared, ultra cool dwarfs are inherently dim. They just don't put out a lot of energy, right. They're embers, and the intensity of light drops off exponentially as distance increases. If you select a target that's a thousand light years away, the satellite simply won't collect enough photons to achieve the signal to noise ratio required to detect a transit.

Speaker 2

It would just be too faint to measure a one percent drop exactly.

Speaker 3

By staying within one hundred parsex, the team guarantees a high enough photon flex to make the measurements statistically viable.

Speaker 2

Okay, so the distance filter makes perfect logical sense. But there's another parameter that you use that feels completely counterintuitive to me.

Speaker 3

The bright stars.

Speaker 2

Yes, the catalog specifically ext excluded binary star systems, which I totally understand, right.

Speaker 3

Two stars orbiting a common center of mass. Their overlapping light curves would make teasing out a planetary transit a mathematical nightmare.

Speaker 2

It would be a mess. But they also explicitly excluded extra bright stars, which if you are struggling to collect photons with a tiny twenty centimeter telescope. Why on earth would you deliberately exclude the brightest targets in your category.

Speaker 3

It really does seem backwards until you dive into how the detector actually works at a physical level.

Speaker 2

Okay, explain the detector to me.

Speaker 3

The sensors on a satellite are essentially grids of microscopic buckets called pixels, and they collect photons. Every time a photon hits a pixel, it generates an electron.

Speaker 2

Right basic digital photography exactly.

Speaker 3

But if you point the telescope at a star that is too bright, those microscopic buckets fill up with electrons far too quickly.

Speaker 2

They saturate. The bucket literally overflows, Yes.

Speaker 3

The technical term is blooming. The electrons physically spill over into adjacent pixels, completely corrupting the image.

Speaker 2

Oh so it ruins the data for the surrounding area too.

Speaker 3

Completely ruins it. But even before you reach full saturation, there's another problem called poisson.

Speaker 2

Noise woss on noise. What is that?

Speaker 3

It has to do with the fact that the arrival of photons from a star isn't perfectly steady. It's not a continuous, smooth stream. It follows a statistical distribution.

Speaker 2

Okay, so it fluctuates.

Speaker 3

Right, There's a natural, completely unavoidable variance in the number of photons hitting the detector from millisecond to millisecond For an extra bright star. The sheer volume of photons means that the absolute value of this statistical noise is huge.

Speaker 2

H So the noise floor naturally rises with the brightness.

Speaker 3

Yes, exactly, the tiny little dip caused by the planetary transit just gets swallowed whole by the massive, unavoidable statistical noise of that overwhelmingly bright star.

Speaker 2

Wow. It's like trying to hear a pin drop inside a heavy metal concert.

Speaker 3

Perfect analogy. It doesn't matter how good your microphone is. The background volume makes it impossible.

Speaker 2

So you need stars that aren't too dim but aren't too bright either.

Speaker 3

Right. By focusing on a Goldilock's level of brightness, stars that provide enough photons to measure, but not so many that the detector saturates or the statistical noise spikes po it maximizes its sensitivity.

Speaker 2

That is brilliant. Okay, So they run the numbers on this highly refined Goldilocks catalog and the computer models predict that pot can reliably detect Earth sized exoplanets, specifically worlds between one and two point five Earth radii.

Speaker 3

So true Earth sized worlds and super Earth.

Speaker 2

But the models also highlight the orbital periods. There are specifically targeting planets with orbital periods ranging from seven to fifty days, and.

Speaker 3

We really need to unpack the physical reality of a seven day orbital.

Speaker 2

Period because it sounds crazy. The orbital period is the length of a planet's year. Earth takes three hundred and sixty five days to complete a circuit around our Sun. If a planet is whipping around its host star in just seven days, its orbital radius has to be incredibly small. It is practically skimming the surface of the star.

Speaker 3

It's hugging it tight.

Speaker 2

Right. If you put Earth on a seven day orbit around our Sun, it wouldn't even be a planet anymore. It'd be a molten droplet of magma. The heat would strip the atmosphere away in a matter of hours.

Speaker 3

It would be totally annihilated, exactly.

Speaker 2

So this seems to contradict the entire goal of the mission. We are looking for another Earth, presumably a place that could harbor life. Why prioritize planets parked in an absolute inferno.

Speaker 3

Because around an ultra cool dwarf, a seven day orbit is not an inferno.

Speaker 2

Because the star is so cold.

Speaker 3

Exactly. It brings us directly into the concept of the habitable zone. The habitable zone, often called the Goldilocks zone, is the specific orbital band around a star where the surface temperature of a rocky planet is theoretically stable enough to maintain liquid water.

Speaker 2

And liquid water is the absolute indispensable solvent for all known biology.

Speaker 3

We haven't found a single living thing that doesn't need it.

Speaker 2

So the boundaries of that Goldilock zone are entirely dependent on the energy output of the host star.

Speaker 3

The campfire analogy works best here.

Speaker 2

I think, oh, I like that. Let's hear it.

Speaker 3

Our sun is a raging bonfire. If you want to not get burned, you have to stand quite a distance away. Earth sits comfortably in that outer band where it's just nice and warm, makes sense, But an ultracol dwarf is just a tiny smoldering ember. If you want to feel the warmth, if you want your water to remain liquid and not freeze solid, you have to huddle intimately close to the fire.

Speaker 2

So for a star that is ten percent the mass of our Sun and thousands of degrees cooler, the habitable zone just gets pulled in incredibly tight, very.

Speaker 3

Tight, so tight that a planet residing right in the middle of an ultra cool dwarf's habitable zone will complete its entire orbit in a matter of days or a few weeks.

Speaker 2

Okay, So this seven to fifty day parameter isn't just a convenient byproduct of the transit method.

Speaker 3

No, it is actively filtering for planets sitting right in the sweet spot for liquid water.

Speaker 2

Orbiting that close to a star, even a dim one introduces a massive physical complication. At a seven day orbit, the gravitational interaction between the star and the planet has to be immense.

Speaker 3

You're bringing up the elephant in the room.

Speaker 2

Tidal locking, Yes, tidal locking. Because the planet is so close, the gravitational pull of the star exerts an extreme tidal force on the planet's mass.

Speaker 3

Right it's pulling on the rock itself, and over millions of years, this tidal friction physically slows the planet's rotation down. It slows down until its rotational period perfectly matches its orbital period.

Speaker 2

This, like our Moon. The Moon is tidally locked to Earth, which is why we only ever see one side of it.

Speaker 3

It's exactly the same mechanism. An Earth sized planet in a seven day orbit around a brown dwarf will have one hemisphere permanently facing the star, bathed in eternal daylight.

Speaker 2

And the other hemisphere is permanently facing the deep frieze of space, locked in eternal night.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

I mean that sounds like a catastrophic environment for life. One side is a boiling desert and the other side is a frozen wasteland of solid carbon dioxide. How does a planet like that support liquid water.

Speaker 3

It's a great question, and it really comes down to atmospheric dynamics. Early models actually assume what you just said, that tidally locked planets would boil off their atmospheres on the day side, which would then just freeze out and collapse onto the night side.

Speaker 2

Leaving a completely barren rock exactly.

Speaker 3

But advanced climate modeling over the last few years suggests a much more robust mechanism. Really, how so, if the planet has a sufficiently thick atmosphere, that extreme temperature difference actually drives massive planet wide winds.

Speaker 2

Oh a global circulation system redistributing the heat.

Speaker 3

Yes, the incredibly hot air on the day side expands and rises rapidly, and then it rushes across the terminator line, which is the permanent twilight zone dividing day and.

Speaker 2

Night, and it carries that heat to the dark hemisphere.

Speaker 3

Right, this constant, violent convection could stabilize the entire climate. It would prevent the oceans on the day side from boiling away and keep the atmosphere on the night side from freezing solid.

Speaker 2

That is so wild, So life might actually thrive right in the middle in that terminator.

Speaker 3

Zone, exactly perpetually bathed in the dim red light of a sun that literally never sets, anchored by these relentless global winds.

Speaker 2

The environment would be profoundly alien, but physically mathematically capable of supporting biology.

Speaker 3

That's the current consensus.

Speaker 2

Yet, and this really underscores the ultimate role of the Poet mission, because Poet is not going to definitively find alien life on its own, right.

Speaker 3

Oh No, A twenty centimeter microsatellite doesn't have the resolving power to image alien forests or detect biological gases.

Speaker 2

Right Poet illit is essentially the ultimate cosmic Scout a scout Yes. Its mission is to survey the neighborhood, identify the handful of rocky planets residing in the habitable zones of these dim stars, and hand off their precise coordinates.

Speaker 3

It acts as the vanguard for a monumental cosmic relay race. Pewat runs the grueling first leg. It stares at those three thousand stars, watches all the static, and finally flags a confirmed target and then what. Once Pewitt determines the planet's exact size and the precise timing of its transit, it passes the baton to the heavy hitters of modern astronomy.

Speaker 2

Of billion dollar observatories.

Speaker 3

Exactly observatories like the James Webb Space Telescope or the upcoming Habitable World's Observatory.

Speaker 2

Because you can't just point a ten billion dollar machine like WEB at a random star and hope you get lucky.

Speaker 3

Never, telescope time is fiercely, fiercely competed for by scientists globally. It requires guaranteed high priority targets.

Speaker 2

WEB needs know exactly when and where to look.

Speaker 3

Down to the minute and when WEB looks at a pwet discovered planet during a transit it executes an incredible technique called transmission spectroscopy.

Speaker 2

Okay, let's break down the mechanics of transmissions tectroscopy, because this is basically how we sniff an alien atmosphere without ever leaving Earth.

Speaker 3

Right, That's exact eactly what it is. When the rocky body of the planet passes in front of the star, it blocks light like we discussed, But a rocky planet isn't just a solid sphere. It has a thin halo of gas surrounding it its atmosphere. As the starlight streams toward Earth, a microscopic fraction of it actually grazes the very edge of the planet and passes directly through that atmosphere.

Speaker 2

So the starlight is essentially being filtered through the alien.

Speaker 3

Air beautifully said. Yes, and different chemical molecules absorb different very specific wavelengths of light. Water vapor absorbs one specific set of frequencies, carbon dioxide absorbs another, methane absorbs yet another.

Speaker 2

It's a chemical fingerprint exactly.

Speaker 3

So when web captures that filtered starlight, its spectrograph acts like a highly advanced prism. It breaks the light apart into its constituent colors, and the scientists They just look for.

Speaker 2

The gaps, the missing wavelengths.

Speaker 3

Right. If a specific frequency of infrared light is completely missing the spectrum, you know exactly which molecule in the planet's atmosphere absorbed it because it acts like a barcode, a perfect chemical barcode. You have effectively analyzed the chemical composition of an atmosphere located hundreds of light years away.

Speaker 2

And the ultimate prize in reading that barcode is finding biosignature gases.

Speaker 3

That is the holy grail.

Speaker 2

Yes, we are looking for an atmosphere that is completely out of chemical equilibrium, right, because if you just leave a bunch of gases alone, geology and solar radiation will eventually cause them to react and settle into a stable dead state.

Speaker 3

Exactly. Look at Mars. Mars has an atmosphere in perfect equilibrium. It's mostly just carbon dioxide. It's totally geologically dead.

Speaker 2

But Earth's atmosphere is wildly.

Speaker 3

Unstable, very unstable. We have high concentrations of oxygen, which is incredibly reactive. Oxygen really wants to bond with everything and pull itself out of the atmosphere.

Speaker 2

But rust iron, it burns wood, It doesn't want to just float there.

Speaker 3

Right, And we also have methane, which reacts incredibly quickly with oxygen to form water and carbon dioxide. If you put methane and oxygen together, they naturally destroy each other rapidly.

Speaker 2

So if a telescope detects both oxygen and methane in high concentrations on the same.

Speaker 3

Planet, then something incredibly powerful has to be continuously pumping vast quantities of those gases into the air to replenish them, Otherwise they would just neutralize each other.

Speaker 2

Geological processes like volcanoes can produce some methane, right, and ultraviolet light breaking down water can produce a little bit of oxygen.

Speaker 3

Sure, abiotic processes can produce price amounts, but finding them in massive concurrent abundance that is exceptionally difficult to explain via purely geological mechanisms.

Speaker 2

So what's the most logical explanation.

Speaker 3

The most logical explanation for a planetary atmosphere held perpetually out of chemical equilibrium like that is a global biosphere.

Speaker 2

Life plants exhaling oxygen, and microbes producing massive amounts of.

Speaker 3

Methane exactly, And this brings it all back to why the precision of PO is just so critic Web's ability to analyze an atmosphere is entirely dependent on the quality of the light passing through it. By targeting ultra cool dwarfs, the planet's atmosphere blocks a proportionally larger amount of the star's total light. The transmission spectrum is thicker, it's clearer, and it's so much easier for WEB to read.

Speaker 2

It is such a beautifully synergistic approach. Canada provides this agile, relatively inexpensive microsatellite to do all the heavy lifting of discovery. It filters out all the noise of the cosmos, just defined the perfect geometric setups, and.

Speaker 3

Then the massive international mega observatories step in to read the chemical barcodes. It really is an extraordinary testament to how collaborative and highly optimize the search for extraterrestrial life has become.

Speaker 2

When you look at the entirety of this endeavor, it represents a really remarkable evolution in scientific thinking. We started by basically just staring at stars that looked like our own, using instruments that were only really capable of finding bloated gas giants.

Speaker 3

We were looking for our twin with the wrong glasses on right.

Speaker 2

We confirmed thousands of worlds that couldn't possibly support life, while the rocky, potentially habitable planets remain totally hidden in the glare. But instead of just hitting our heads against the wall, we change the parameters.

Speaker 3

The limitations of our tools forced a complete shift in perspective. If the sun like stars are too bright, well look at the dim ones right. If the habitable zone of a red dwarf is incredibly tight, use that to your advantage, because those tight, fast orbits mean more transits and faster confirmation.

Speaker 2

The physics that initially seem like a massive barrier, you know, the tiny size of the stars, the tidal locking of the planets, They are actively being weaponized to make detection possible.

Speaker 3

It is the ultimate expression of scientific pragmatism.

Speaker 2

The upcoming launch of Payat in twenty twenty nine isn't just about putting another mirror in space. It is about deploying a highly targeted strategy to sift through the cosmic noise of our local neighborhood, to ignore the bright, chaotic suns in favor of the quiet red embers.

Speaker 3

It'll map the orbital periods, measure the radii, and basically hand the absolute most promising seven day year super Earth's directly over to the heavy machinery to search for the breath of life.

Speaker 2

The ingenuity of finding a way to measure a fractional dip in infrared starlight from a satellite the size of a washing machine, it just cannot be overstated.

Speaker 3

It's amazing. It brings the loftiest, most philosophical question humanity has ever asked, Are we alone down to a literal matter of photon collection and noise reduction?

Speaker 2

And as we wait for this mission to launch, it leaves us with a rather profound philosophical pivot to consider. When we look up at the sky, we instinctively view Earth as the standard, the baseline.

Speaker 3

Of course we do. It's all we know, right.

Speaker 2

We have a massive, fiercely hot yellow Sun, we have a nice, leisurely three hundred and sixty five day orbit, we have regular days and nights, and we just assume this is the ideal universal template for a thriving biosphere.

Speaker 3

But the sheer math of the galaxy tells a very different story.

Speaker 2

Because ultra cool dwarfs, red dwarfs, and brown dwarfs make up the overwhelming majority of stars in the Milky.

Speaker 3

Way, Yellow dwarfs like our sun are actually in the tiny minority.

Speaker 2

So imagine the scenario a decade from now. What if Webb points its massive mirrors at one of pode It's prime targets. What if it analyzes the atmosphere of a super Earth tightly orbiting a dim red failed star.

Speaker 3

A planet locked in eternal twilight with a year that lasts only six days exactly?

Speaker 2

And what if it finds the undeniable chemical fingerprint of a robust, churning global biosphere.

Speaker 3

It demands a total reevaluation of our place in the cosmic hierarchy.

Speaker 2

It really would. It would mean our blazing sun and our long varied seasons aren't the standard template at all. If life can take root and thrive in the fierce, tidally lock winds of a red dwarf system, it forces us to ask an incredibly humbling question.

Speaker 3

What if we are the cosmic oddballs?

Speaker 2

Exactly? What if the true bustling metropolises of the universe aren't bathed in bright yellow light like our own, but are hidden away in the dim red glow of the galaxy's smallest inhabitants. The so called failed stars might just turn out to be the most successful engines of life in the universe, and we are just the outlier, finally learning how to look in the dark.

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