I'm with my good friend , tom hampson . Thomas , how are you ? I'm good . How about you ? Good , good , good . You know . We're fighting a battle on so many fronts , tom , as far as stolen innocence goes , fighting against the , the lies and the distortions they're telling our kids .
It's almost unbelievable , but this is election day , so I want to talk a little bit about the election . Are you up for that ? Sure , it's the last day we have a chance to . It's the last day . And I start to think about Kamala harris and listening to her and again , I we never say that the other side's perfect .
I mean , you know , you know it's not like the republicans are , uh are coming in and the white stallion to rescue us all . I mean , there's , there's , there's plenty of evil on both sides , but I've never seen the blatant lies like this . You know where , you know , it doesn't really even matter what you say .
And I start to think about the abuse of language and abuse of power that we see in , in , uh , in our local school boards and teachers now that are coming out , uh , trans , and in my own kids , my own grandkids , schools , schools and in a nearby school district and maybe I'll just touch on this too to make this point is a man who's dressing as a woman ,
who says he's transitioning to a woman and he's working in a local library there and the school is defending him there and calling him incorrectly her now , and and asking or telling the students to to call him her , they now .
They've known this person , this man , all this time and now , all of a sudden , these , these young kids this is an elementary school , come into school and now they are told a lie that that this man is a woman now and they have to go along with the lie .
And when you start to think about that , tom , from a young person and I realize the culture many people in the culture will say , well , yeah , now he's transitioning , so we got to call him a woman . But it's impossible , it's scientifically impossible , it's not going to happen . You can play games all you want , but when we lie , does it matter , tom ?
When we lie to kids ?
Well , of course it matters . It confuses them . Confusion is not something that children handle very well . Adults don't handle it very well . People become paralyzed when they get confused . They have a difficult time believing anything when there's no certainty that they can trust .
Language has to speak the truth , doesn't it , tom ?
Yes , Well , in order for it to be useful . Otherwise we can't communicate .
Yes , exactly . So say that again now and I'll tell you why this is important . You know you were in crime , investigative , a crime investigator , and so you're always seeking the truth , right ? What is the truth of this crime ? Well , you know , know , I was not in crime but I was , you know , into philosophy and theology .
Well , philosophy wants to get it to truth . Also , you know , and going back tom plato and aristotle , 400 years bc , we're talking about the sophists . And the sophists were these , you know , teachers . They would get paid , they're professionals and they would go around and they get paid for speaking on some subject .
And Plato and Aristotle were after them a little bit , because they said that they'll , they'll say anything to win a victory in a debate and they're prepared to use even dishonest means to achieve it . In other words , it wasn't always truth that they were after .
They wanted to get the best crowds , they wanted to get people excited about something and win a debate . And that's exactly what they said . Then they said the reason we're against that is because language , words have to convey the truth , and that's how we communicate with one another . We communicate in the truth .
Otherwise , they said , if we're not going to speak the truth and if it's all about opinions , then it's a monologue , not a dialogue .
In other words , you and I , tom , if the truth doesn't exist and if we're not going to convey the truth through our words , we might as well get off and give a stump speech , and then your turn to give a stump speech , and then I'll I'll you know . Then your turn to get up a stump speech .
And that's what these politicians seem to do , to the degree where they they . They will actually I've seen kamala harris a number of different times say one thing in one state and the same day , go to another state and say something that appeals to that audience .
Right .
And we have mass media today , we can show it . Here's my last thing to ask , tom . Yet people can see that and people will still vote for it . They don't care . They don't care . In other words , you can't tell what position she has . We don't really even know on fracking , on anything . We don't know what she's going to do .
We're just turning the page and doing something . She never says what her position is , but it doesn't matter to people . We're going to vote for her . Tom , I know I throw out a lot at you , so just go wherever you want , but we have to speak the truth . And if we don't speak the truth , what's the point of all of this ?
Well , children especially need to know what the truth is . As adults , we can understand this fuzzy logic kind of stuff . Not everything is clear cut . As you grow older you begin to realize that things are fuzzy , but as a child , they need some kind of certainty in order to get from one place to another , to another .
And , for example , good and evil , just something as simple as good and evil , what is good , what is evil ? You have some people saying what we think is good , that is evil , and vice versa . Well , that's very confusing to a child . Now you get to something that , but that's like a , an intellectual concept good and evil .
Now you get to something like male and female . That that's a . That is a clear , binary scientific condition you're either male or female . That's it . Now , when you tell a child that , well , no , that may not be true , that you might be a male today and you can become a female tomorrow , what does that do to their thinking ? This is not reality .
You're teaching children that reality doesn't exist , that there's nothing that they can hold on to . It's something as fundamental as that .
The way it is now , we don't have a civilization anymore if we don't have , if we don't have shared values , if we don't have shared understanding of what's right and wrong , good and evil , then then we have no civilization at all . We're just .
We're just running around doing our own thing and and that's kind of where half the population is tom Tom right now . Yes , it is Half the population don't believe in objective truth .
Actually , there's a study done . I think the reason for that is that about 100 years ago , propaganda became a profession . Really , it's become part of our everyday life . It's marketing , it's called marketing of our everyday life . It's marketing . It's called marketing .
And so you can have these politicians go out and say clearly things that are lies and say , well , it's just marketing . For example , on the Trump issue , one of the issues that's been disproven multiple times , even by left-wing media issues that's been disproven multiple times , even by left-wing media is the there's good people on both sides .
Hoax where the whole Charlottesville thing ? They are still saying that about Trump , about President Trump , that he's a racist because he made this comment about there's good people on both sides , and that's been completely disproven .
So it's fine for somebody just to go out and spread these lies without any consequences whatsoever , except for the real consequences that people are influenced by that kind of wrong messaging .
Yeah , it's amazing that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz can say that democracy will come down if Trump is elected . Yet Trump was elected already . He was a president for four years . He did nothing to take our democracy down .
But see , even that is a problem , because there's been this promotion about democracy , democracy , democracy . We don't have a democracy . This is not a democracy . This is a constitutional republic .
It is distinctly different from a democracy , and it was created that way for a very reason because a democracy becomes a mobocracy , and that's the reason that the founding fathers didn't want it . So , in a backhanded way , what they're doing is they're trying to turn the United States into a democracy . That's why they want to get rid of the Electoral College .
That's why they want to really they want to get rid of the Senate , because you know they're not a representative body . They represent the whole state , not the individuals , and so they really would like to turn this into , maybe , a parliamentarian system and basically have Congress run everything .
Yeah , so they use the abuse of language and you say , okay , well , how does abusive language turn into abuse of power ? And that's exactly what it is . If we can get us all on this path of moral relativism where there is no truth . We are easily manipulated by propaganda , to your point , by marketing people , by the so-called experts in the schools .
Why would people be afraid to stand up at school boards and say , look , my child is confused when we have trans teachers or trans librarians ? But they are , and I think probably who knows exactly ? But probably half the parents that I meet , maybe more than half the parents , tom , would not stand up against any of this stuff .
Well , no , because it would be same people don't want to be mean . If you're , if there's somebody this librarian , for example that now thinks he's a , he's a woman , I don't want to be mean to the person and say , you know , I have no bad feelings about the person .
I feel sad for him because I think there's something very wrong and and I think he's mentally ill and he needs . He needs therapy . He doesn't need to be the target of of vitriol by anybody or or tact for for believing that he's a woman . He needs help .
So you find yourself in a position Well , I don't agree with what's going on , but I don't want to hurt the person's feelings and I don't want to also don't want to be , I don't want to make myself a target for all these whack jobs that are out there that are going to issue death threats against me , which is what's happening If you stand up and say you
have , you have groups , these LGBT activists . Many of them are extraordinarily hostile and very violent in their rhetoric and some of them are violent in carrying out the threats that they make . So normal people don't want to subject themselves to that .
So we go along with it and and yet nobody really looks at the children again . Right , and , and I agree with everything you said , you know , there's no doubt about it and I , I , I'm the first one to say that I , I , you know , I , I don't want to go , and you know , with the person in front of me and and say something derogatory to them .
They are suffering from something . They were probably abused , and I don't know the specific person , but they were probably abused by somebody , maybe even sexually abused , certainly have gone through some kind of trauma to get to this point , uncomfortable with their own body .
You know , some connect , disconnect , you know going on in their life there's a dysfunction going on , but yet to tell that to really celebrate their mental illness is really sick For the society , to celebrate someone in mental illness and tell them that they're normal in this mental illness and then to tell the rest of us what's the solution in a situation like
that , tom , in other words , if we were parents and we agree and we can't take our kids out of that school , do we do anything ? I think it's important to talk about this because you can do this in a way and even say , if I'm at a school board meeting . I'll even say , you know , I have nothing against that specific teacher .
In fact , as a Christian , we're called to love everybody , including that specific person . On the other hand , we also have a responsibility to speak the truth Because , getting back to our initial point here , when we don't speak the truth , you know something happens and we , as human beings , are not unaffected and untainted by that .
You know that has a taint on us when we no longer live in the truth , when we no longer can be part of the truth , right ?
longer live in the truth when we no longer can be part of the truth , right ? Well , god created all of us , male and female , and so we can stand on our , our religious belief . That that's the way things are .
If somebody wants to say that , that we should call this this librarian , who's a man , miss , we don't have to go along with that , and I would tell the children the truth that he thinks he's a woman . It's difficult for them to understand why he thinks that , but he's still a man .
There's no changing from male to female , and that's what children should be taught . What they're teaching children now in that school is that a man can become a woman , and that is flat wrong .
Yeah , and this is going to affect them later on , like you , said because it creates doubts about all reality now .
You know , is there it gets .
You wonder why the majority 90 , up to 90% of the teens and college kids today subscribe to moral relativism . There is no truth and you wonder where this came from . Well , it comes right from these types of things . This school Tom handed out a handout on how to react if people have questions and talk about lies and distortions .
This is in small print so I'm gonna put my glasses on here , tom . It says our lmc . This is a . The library director is amazing , continues to work great here . Let's support her . Let's support her . And again , right here , these are our talking points .
So if parents come by're saying to the students and we're saying to parents this is what the talking points are from the school , let's support her . So they're already twisting and distorting that . If somebody comes back more , it says well , let's redirect the question . This is again from the talking points from the school . They'll say that's a personal question .
Now let's focus on our lesson about math or the topic at hand . In other words , let's just stay away from that . Let's support her and let's not be disrespectful . So they're using all of those things . Let's not be disrespectful , let's not hurt their feelings , but at the same time , let's support her . Let's call her as she chooses to express herself .
And , at the end of the day , if we want to go along , to get along , we go along with this , tom , but we think it doesn't make a difference . But it does because we lose and the kids lose all bearing in the truth again all bearing in the truth again .
Well , part of that is just the tone of the letter mischaracterizes the relationships there . Let's support the teacher . No , the teacher is supposed to be there to support the children and the teacher is there to help the parents teach the children . They're not there to be supported . Yeah , no , that's a great point .
If they need to be supported , they shouldn't be there , because their job is to support the children , and part of supporting the children is to convey what's true and what's right . Not you know , not to try to pretend that you're something else . And this is right . Out of that Hans Christian Anderson thing , the emperor has no clothes .
Come on , this is ridiculous . They probably have that book in that library where the librarian is . It's like the librarian has become the emperor .
Yeah , yeah , Isn't that something ? That's a great point . And so now we have this election coming up and we're doing the same thing , Tom , you know , on a national level , we are not speaking the truth and I think , you know , for whatever reason , people aren't seeing through this .
I can't believe that the polls now this is the polls , and they could be right or wrong show Kamala Harris and Donald Trump neck and neck , and is it people don't realize , Tom , that the abuse of language ? Again , what they've done to him ? They've gone after him for the Russian collusion , One thing after another . They've indicted him on how many counts ?
Now they want him wrapped up in court . Yeah , were you 90 , 91 ?
Yeah , 91 .
In our justice system for injustice , taking out our political opponents , and nobody seems to care . You know , President Trump almost got assassinated three times now and it's like it didn't even happen and nobody really even cares .
You know , it's amazing , tom yeah , I I part of it is I just looking ? I want to look something up here to see what it shows today . I've been following because the polls are are just in terrible . They're all showing so close . Yeah , here it is .
I I followed the betting , you know the bet , the Las Vegas betting on this campaign , which I find very interesting because , as of right now , there's been two , four , five , six , seven , eight , nine , there's been $4 billion bet on this , on this race . Now , mind you , there's been just a little bit .
This is in Vegas . This is in .
Vegas . $4 billion have been bet on this and Trump's chances of where . Trump is at 58.1% and and Harris is at 41.5% as of right now , and so you know . So that's a big difference there .
I'm not sure what the odds makers are seeing over the rest of them , but there's been twice as much money spent on bets over this campaign than there has been by the campaign spent to fund the campaign for the whole time , which I find just absolutely incredible .
Yeah , now I wonder how many bets there are , incredible , yeah , now I wonder how many bets there are you know , or you know , and the reason I say this , I wonder if it's it's a couple really really big bets , or if it's a lot of people betting , you know , I I wonder how many , seriously , well , as of a couple of weeks ago the the betting market was
about 2.1 billion and so because I've been following it , so now it's been , it's beena couple billion dollars and trump has always been ahead in .
Yeah , he's always been ahead the whole time . Yeah , now . So I don't know what's going to happen because we don't know what's happening . The polls I don't think they're . I don't think they're interviewing the right people , but what are you ?
optimistic . Are you optimistic that that that trump pulls this out ? And you'll be , and you'll be on video . So if Kamala gets in there , tom , they'll be able to find you easy . Yeah .
I am optimistic that Trump is going to pull this out , because there's a number of reasons for that . First of all , he has an actual message . He's been interviewing everybody . He's out there telling people what his position is . He's been very energetic the whole time . If anybody is a unity candidate , it's him , for crying out loud . We've got you know .
Trump has brought in Bobby Kennedy , elon Musk , tulsi Gabbard , nicole Shanahan , who is Bobby Kennedy's running mate in there .
She's all on board . It's amazing .
They're all totally , 100% on board with Trump . Joe Rogan just endorsed Trump , who is a Bernie Sanders supporter . So here's a candidate who has brought together working class people to billionaires . He has the richest man in the world and probably some of the poorest people in the United States that are supporting him .
So I think he is the true unity candidate and I think people I hope there's enough people out there that see this and recognize the value that he would bring to the country . Kamala , on the other hand , hasn't had a single press conference in the whole time she's been candidate . Not one press conference .
She's been interviewed by friendly press people , but she hasn't . She hasn't . She . Certainly she refused to go on joe rogan show for three hours , which I I don't think she could have done it . I don't think she could talk for three hours like like trump and other people that go on that show can .
So well , she could , but nobody could listen to it . I mean , yeah , it was like you know 99 of the people would have turned it off after 15 or 20 minutes because the word salad thing would just give you a terrible headache , right , and so .
So I am optimistic that Trump will win . I'm not . I I'm concerned about about some of the indications I've seen voter fraud that's been caught . I wonder what hasn't been caught . I mean people they said , oh , there is no vote , there is no voter fraud , it's not existent . Well , we know that there is .
I mean people they said , oh , there is no voter fraud , it's nonexistent . Well , we know that there is . I mean being here in Chicago early on when I was an investigator , it was a common knowledge that there was voter fraud in Chicago massively . It was a joke that vote early and vote often .
That wasn't just a saying , that was going on all the time in every election .
Yeah , well , you know , one of my favorite through this election , one of my favorite , as you know , because I brought it up a lot of times , there's this real war . You know , as we know , even Joe Rogan . You know , you know , even even joe rogan . You know , you got guys like russell , brand , tucker , carlson , vivek , even elon musk senses this .
You know , there's a something in there , there's a spiritual element to all of this , right , yeah , and even billboard chris . Who who's ? Uh , you know who he is . He stands up , up , he's got the signs on and he's a trans people . He's a Canadian , he's in the United States a lot and all he does is wear a sign that .
You know I'm a dad that stands up against this trans religion , right , this trans ideology confusing our kids . And even he is starting to recognize . Recognize he's an agnostic . He would call himself an atheist and then an agnostic and now he's even saying you know , there's a spiritual element to this .
There's a good versus evil about this thing , because how else do you , how do you explain tom , blatant lies about a trans person being shoved down our throat all the way from the HHS ? Now , we've got to remember this because we're talking politics and we're also talking about what's happening in our schools .
There's no accident that this is starting from the World Economic Forum , from the WHO , from a worldwide , global level . It's happening in our nation with Richard Levine , who's a man who dresses like a woman and no different than this librarian right that we're discussing . That is also pushing gender-affirming care on the United States population .
You know the HHS has a huge budget . I think it's the number one budget , single budget in the United States , covering 400 plus various institutions , medical institutions and government agencies across the United States . This is a huge thing , and when he gets on pushing gender affirming care , which means what ? Pushing gender-affirming care , which means what ?
It means that we have to affirm these young people basically in their mental illness or their confusion again , and that often leads to puberty blockers , cross-sex hormones and even could lead to mutilation of their bodies , and we know that this is happening .
Well , and the other thing that's really disturbing , that came out just recently was the discovery that an NIH-funded research project the results were suppressed . It was NIH gave $6 million to a group of doctors to study the effectiveness of transgender care and this gender-affirming care that they were all promoting , and the study came out .
The study discovered that it didn't help , that this was not good , so the doctors refused to publish the study . This is a study that we paid for , that the Americans paid for . Why are they allowed not to publish the results of that study ?
Well , nih came out and said well , they leave it to the doctors to determine whether or not they're going to publish it or not . Wait a minute . Basically , we hired them to do this study . How can they possibly not publish it and why would the NIH let them get away with it ? This is this is a serious problem that we've got .
Now elon musk , I guess , is going to be assigned one of the jobs , if president trump gets in there , to make government more efficient . Well , that's one thing that they should . They could , they could get rid of that kind of studies that are being done . Yeah , yeah , but I think it one of the .
The other thing I found interesting was just recently they had the actors that played the avengers endorsed kamala harris . They were on a zoom call and they all endured . They endorsed kamala harris , including the , the guy who played tony stark , and and I saw , I saw a comparison as well trump has the real tony stark .
They just got the actor , they just got with musk , being the real tony stark and they showed that they showed that that booster rocket coming down and being caught by the gantry . I mean that , what an amazing thing that was yes , it was amazing .
You know , tom , the , the , the landscape of our country . I think we're the last country , certainly in the Western civilization right we would look at Western civilization . That has a chance now to turn this thing around . I mean , europe is gone for all practical purposes , europe's done , and that includes Scandinavia .
England is done , they're all done , yeah , yeah , and they have been declining for a long , long time . But now you can put a really a state . You know you could put a stake in the heart of that thing , right , uh ?
you have a couple right out loud the england they , they , they arrested and convicted some woman or guy for praying outside an abortion actually , yeah , one of each , you know .
But yeah , the last one was a man who's a veteran , was a veteran in the Army for silently praying .
Yeah , not loud just standing there praying silently . And he goes to jail like what the heck ? So this ?
gets to our point . This is a spiritual battle , I mean you know . And then what's more blatant than a spiritual battle ? I mean you know . And then what's more blatant than a spiritual battle ? Than what you just said and saying that a man can become a woman when it's scientifically , it's impossible .
You can do whatever you want , but what's happening , tom , to so many young people is and we know this from the detransitioners so the detransitioners are coming out and these heartbreaking stories are being told . You know the Chloe Coles of the world , the Prisha Mosley's there's , there's thousands of them now , right ?
So so you know this is not an isolated case that I just described , that we just described from the school , and I want to just read you something so Stop the Harm . Which is made up of 12,000 doctors and attorneys and specialists . They put out a new database and it exposes shocking information about the impact of gender medicine on vulnerable young people .
Since 2019 , nearly 14,000 minors have undergone radical transgender interventions , hormones and surgery in US hospitals and pediatric facilities , including , unfortunately , catholic facilities .
According to new insurance data , these interventions yielded $120 million to those facilities and for complicit health care institutions , but exacted a perilously high price from young people who face lifelong impaired fertility and sexual functioning , lifelong impaired fertility and sexual functioning , higher risk of cardiovascular disease , liver disease , mental health , complications
from transgender body modifications . And the last thing I'll just say , tom , quickly , is that you know parents have heard that , you know , would you rather have a live son . You know your daughter transitioning to a boy , which rather have a live son or or or a dead daughter . And and that's a lie .
That's a lie because we know that the suicide rates are higher because these kids have you know some , some mental illnesses and some things going on in their lives . But after transition the suicide rate doesn't go down . It goes up afterwards .
Right , Well , I just did a quick calculation . I said , based on the figures you gave , that seems kind of low . It's only $8,500 per procedure on average for that transition care . But that's really- .
And they said in there just to your point , Tom , real quick . They said that we're being ultra conservative here and these are only the , the insurance amounts that actually went through Medicare and various insurance things . They said there's tons of cash going through .
A lot of insurance companies are not covering this , so they they erred on just what they can prove and what came through .
Yeah , that's a good point , because one of the things about this whole medicalization of this issue , turning it into a pharmacological and surgical kind of issue , is that there's continuing care that these hospitals and doctors get the pharmacies continue to you know , every month or every three months they have to reorder the prescription .
They have to go back in to see the doctor . They may have to . If you have surgical intervention there's always corrective surgery . That has to be done because the body's not made to be that way . So it really creates a lifetime of care that these people are buying into . So that initial cost that they're showing is way low from any standpoint at all .
So there's a definite monetary motivation for a lot of these people to get involved .
Well , look at Planned Parenthood , Tom . I mean Planned Parenthood . Their big business was abortion , and now we know that it's actually now puberty blockers and these cross-sex hormones .
So now to your point instead of coming in once or twice , or three times for an abortion , they now have people coming back monthly to get their tea , either testosterone or their estrogen , and , yeah , it's a stream of money that's very , very lucrative , isn't it ?
Well and they're not looking out for the children , because here in Illinois they recently passed a law allowing 13-year-olds to get an abortion without anybody's permission , without their parents' permission , without a court's permission .
You just come in and show up and say I need an abortion , and there's no inquiry about whether or not , about the sexual exploitation that has occurred in that situation .
Yeah , we have to . You know , as parents , whether we want it or not , and as concerned citizens , we do have to stand up for the truth , and that means the national elections here , our local elections , our school board meetings . And it's not easy , tom .
But if we don't do that right before we came on air I don't know if you want to repeat that or not but if we don't start to stand up , what did you say ? Do you remember ? I ? Don't start to stand up . What , what do we ? What ? What did you say ?
do you remember ?
I don't remember , yeah , I mean in essence what you said . Yeah , yeah , see , see , you could tell that that my mind is , is , is , is .
I've been drinking more coffee than you this morning already , tom probably , but but the reality is , you know , we've left this too long on the back burner , we left it to other people , and that's what you said yes , we have .
It's the .
The only reason that a Harris might win is that the too many people have just left to others to to do the work , and so that the others that are doing the work are all these left-wing people , these people that believe that truth is variable , that you can become , if you're born a woman , you can become a man , or vice versa , these strange kinds of
philosophies that everything is up for grabs , everything , there is no truth , there's no foundation for anything , there is no God , and those are the people that are running things now , and we really have to take that back .
Hopefully , we'll be able to do that in an environment where President Trump is in charge of things , but still , even if he wins , there is a desperate need to convince all these people that vote for Harris that they're on the wrong track .
And I don't think you're going to be able to do that , Tom I don't know , because look at Nicole Shanahan was a lifelong Democrat .
Bobby Kennedy is a lifelong Democrat . He's like a Democrat dynasty . He's a lifelong Democrat . He's like a Democrat dynasty . And so there's a coalition . There's a new coalition that is formed around the Republican Party that is based on common sense solutions to things . Kennedy is focused .
Kennedy and Shanahan are focused on making America healthy again because of just , we eat terribly .
Well , this gets back to truth again , tom . You know what is the truth that's in our food , what is the truth of who's controlling our food supply . You know what's the truth about energy . You know what's the truth about all this stuff . And you know we've , we've , we've gone along with these lies for so long and all this propaganda for so long .
You know , think about EV . You know we were supposed to within really 2030 . Now we're coming up on that . We're supposed to be all electric . Well , they had to throw that out , tom , because they realized very soon that it was impossible right , because we don't have the .
We don't have the generating capacity . First of all , nuclear . Nuclear power has been discredited , which it should never have been . Even coal power has been discredited . You know that underneath the ground , here in Illinois , just in Illinois , we have enough coal to supply energy for the United States for 100 years .
They don't want to use coal anymore because it's terrible for the environment . Well , it's not terrible for the environment .
Yeah , they've found ways to clean that up pretty well . Yes , absolutely .
They take out the , they take out most of the sulfur , and now it doesn't . It doesn't stop the carbon dioxide from going into the air , so plant more trees . The fact is that every week there's a new coal powered power plant going up in China .
Is it better to have those power plants here where we actually scrub the exhaust , where we get rid of the particulates , where we get rid of the sulfur and some of these other bad things , or just let China go ahead and do it ? It's better for us to use it here than it is to send it over , send it somewhere else .
And so I think that people have just gone nuts . They take one issue and they say this is bad and we can't do it . I had a client one time that was doing experiments on using these special breed of pigs for organs for humans breed of pigs for organs for humans .
Well , groups like ALF , animal Liberation Front , which are radical groups , attacked this company and actually had put a bomb under the car of the president of the company at one time . So they had to set the farm for these pigs up out in a remote area where nobody could find it . It was like in this remote area because they were afraid of an attack by ALF .
This is insane . We should not have to deal with things like this . People have gone nuts and there has to be some kind of common sense brought back into our discussions and our debates , because if it's not better to have organs to use animals for organs than it is to rely solely on people , I don't know what the solution is .
There's not enough people for the organs that are needed by those that are dying because their organs are failing , and so now what's happened is we got Well if nothing else , tom , we have a dialogue on it and I think , as we start to wrap up , I think we have to get back to that truth again , because you don't have a dialogue without truth and that was our
point in the beginning it's a monologue . If you don't have truth , you can have a monologue , but you can't have a dialogue , because a dialogue has to be in the truth and we have to be communicating truth to one another . If we're not speaking the truth , we're just speaking lies and propaganda to one another .
Very soon that communication disintegrates into nothing and human beings are affected by lies . I get back to this , john 8 , and I got to read you a little bit again . I know I've done this in the past , but I think this is a spiritual thing .
And Jesus says if you continue in my word , you are truly my disciples and you will know the truth and the truth will set you free . And he goes on to say this . He goes , he's talking about Satan , and this is the other side of the story . He said why do you not understand what I say ? It's because you cannot bear to hear my word .
You are of your father , the devil , and your will is to do your father's desires and here's the point he was a murderer from the beginning has nothing to do with the truth , because there is no truth in him . When he lies , he speaks according to his own nature , for he is a liar and a father of lies .
But because I tell you the truth , you do not believe me . This is the battle . People ask me why we don't want to talk about Jesus Christ anymore . And the guy ? He never did anything . If you read the Gospels , he never did anything wrong . He never did anything against anybody . He went to dinner with everybody .
The only thing he would say is you know , go and sin no more , don't harm other people anymore and speak the truth . And if you don't speak the truth and you don't care about other people , you are from your father , the devil .
You know , and I think this is so clear , tom , when we start to talk about all these issues we're talking about today , we're not going to speak the truth , and when you don't , you fall into the camp . This has become so clear to me , tom . It's the weeds and the weeds sticking up and people are picking sides , you know .
Yeah , I don't understand how it's allowed by political campaigns to knowingly speak lies about anything . To go out there and say that , for example , that Trump is going to bring about a dictatorship , that he is because he said it , that he's going to cause there's going to be a bloodbath if he's not elected . That he's threatening a bloodbath if he's not elected .
That that he's threatening a bloodbath he's not elected . That he's going to be dictator on day one . That that he's a racist because of the the charlottesville hoax that was that was perpetrated . All these things are are lies and you can't just you can't counter them with with short sound bites .
You have to be able to explain each one of these things in depth and nobody listens to it that much so .
I don't . Well , it was journalists , tom , that in the past we had our media .
We had journalists .
We had our newspapers that would expose this . This was their job . Their job was to expose both sides . And then , if there was an editorial page to say , okay , what is the truth , here's what I see , here's what I see , and then you would find people you respected that would say , well , no , he didn't say that .
But we don't do that anymore , tom . Well , no , the news media is propagating these lies . They're actually become propaganda arms of the Democrat party , and so now you can see the force , now you can see the force all over the world that this is a spiritual battle .
really , you know that this propaganda , tom , is no longer you know the Nazis in Germany or the communists you know in Russia . This is a worldwide lie that we're perpetrating on humanity for the destruction of human beings . It's a crazy time . Elon Musk said that on Joe Rogan's you mentioned the Joe Rogan podcast .
He said that if this election goes to the Democrats , you will never have another election in this country , and I think he's right .
They will change the laws maybe Supreme Court , certainly allowing more immigration to come in to the point and they want to throw out like you said , they want to throw out the electoral college and they want to make this just a democracy . With enough illegals coming in that you'll never have a fair election .
Everything will be like Well , and they want to pack the Supreme Court too . Yeah , that's right . So , it'll always be- .
It's an interesting time today , tom yeah it is I still have to .
I have a whinge of fear when I hear some of these things , but I have to remind myself that God's in charge , everything is going to work out according to his plan , and so we don't have to fear that . However , I do think we have a responsibility to do what we can to make things right .
We're supposed to spread the word and to make things better for the people around us , and too many of us have sacrificed to others . To do that , we need to everyone . Every person has to do what they can rather than just worry about what they're going to do this weekend up at the cabin .
Yeah , yeah , and that goes for standing up for what's right . Not , you know , and , and you know , and and the last thing .
Then , Tom , when you speak like that , this is about our eternal salvation Anybody that doesn't have one eye at least open once in a while to where we're going , you get stuck in this temporal space and you think this is all it is , Tom . So we're going to grasp and take .
That is an issue . Now People don't fear God anymore . When I was a young kid , virtually everybody feared God , even if they didn't quite believe in him . They were a little worried about what might happen if they did the wrong thing . But today there's no concern . There's no fear of God . Even Christians aren't afraid of God .
They think , yeah , well , god will forgive me , I can do . Concern there's no fear of god . Even christians aren't afraid of god . They think , yeah , well , god will forgive me , I can do whatever I want .
Well , it may not work that way yeah , he might get up there and say , hey , I didn't know you yeah , yeah and and scary enough that even comes out of the vatican .
Nowadays , you know , with pope francis saying you know this is my personal opinion , but he's speaking and you know he's sitting on the chair of Peter while he's saying it I don't think there is a hell . I don't think there's a hell . He said that yeah , I don't think God would personally . I don't think that there's .
We're all going to heaven , so don't worry , I mean there's something wrong with that ?
Yeah , there is . So all right , that's the rock , so all right , love wins , kind of thing says no , I don't think everybody's going to heaven , I don't think that's going to work out that way .
Yeah , I don't know about you , tom , but I'm going to heaven , you know because ?
I don't do anything wrong and well , I do a lot of things wrong , but I you know , but you're going anyway .
So what's the difference ? I might as well do something wrong too , then , right . So I mean , I think that's the mentality , you know . Yeah , you do something wrong , I do something . What's the big deal ? A little porn here , a little abortion there , a little trans guy over here who cares ? You know , it's all kumbaya .
Huh , well you better people , better start reacquiring a fear of god , because the end times are coming , th Thomas , hey , good to be with you .
I'll talk to you . We may not know today . I would be surprised if we knew today . I think we'll know today .
You do yeah tonight . Yeah , I think we will yeah .
All right , all right , hey , glory to God , huh .
Glory to God .
We'll hope for the best . All right , Thomas . Hey , good to be with you . Talk to you again soon .