Beating The Book: The 86th Masters Betting Preview - podcast episode cover

Beating The Book: The 86th Masters Betting Preview

Apr 05, 20221 hr 1 minEp. 188
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

It's a betting podcast tradition unlike any other! Host Gill Alexander welcomes author of Joe Peta’s Tour Guide Presents A 2019 and 2020 Masters Preview, Joe Peta, to give his thoughts on the tournament through the lens of his exclusive strokes gained analysis at Augusta. Then Gill, along with VSiN Co-Hosts of “Prime Time Action” Matt Brown and Kelley Bydlon, analyzes the top contenders, long shot opportunities, and various course categories at Augusta, seeking value and opportunity from a betting perspective on this special Masters Preview Edition of the Beating The Book podcast. (April 5, 2022)

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Transcript

Speaker 1

Check it on, Man down Man. This is a numbers game traditions unlike any other. The annual pre Master's appearance by the man who literally wrote the book on Masters analytics. You even remember it from a couple of years ago,

or actually a few years ago. Now called Joe Peters Tour Guide presents a twenty nineteen Masters preview, including a never before seenen Augusta National Strokes Gained report at that time, literally the only guy who dove into the non public domain, very proprietary deep dive of analytics there at Augusta's Joe Peter, everybody its duty. How are you doing? Man? Great to be here, Gil enjoying btbash too? Yeahhaps absolutely it's and

it's great. It was great to be down here so I could come in studio, and I wanted to dress an honor of a couple of your esteemed guests. Uh, this is in honor the white sweat shirt. That's not our Jimmy Icaro. Yeah, it's He always looks great when he sits in studio in his white white sweatshirt. And

who is your guest who? Whenever he comes on, he always has an obscure minor league baseball cap for you, Dan Besperus, Dan, So I thought, all right, I'm gonna wear a hat from an obscure golf club, very very obscure. I see a gust the National, the most obscure of them all. At the tournament. You may have heard of a little club down there and right in the South Carolina Georgia border. We we have to start by by saying,

so Joe is Joe is. I don't know if reeling is a little too heavy of a word, but when we mentioned the part about it wind expected Friday, so round two right now, if you look at the forecast, and we all know how forecasts go, but right now, the way that it looks is that there will be twenty mile per hour winds on Friday. So a little part of you died when you heard that. Yeah, it did, just to say as a viewer and a fan standpoint, because and then you also mentioned it was cooling off

Saturday and Sunday. Uh, when I watched the Masters. This goes back from you know, coming out of a fall in the Northeast. When I watched the Masters. That's one of the spring Harvinger's I want to see the patrons in short pants on Saturday and Sunday. Uh. And if there's too much wind, to borrow your phrase, I don't want to. I don't want a US Open to break out, you know. Yeah, we we need birdie's ambogies, um, And we don't want win to take away the birdies on

the weekend for excitement. So uh, I hope maybe it's just a localized Friday thing. Yeah, hopefully, because otherwise that, you know, like you said, off air kills the sort of distribution of the outcomes and makes for a kind of different tournament. Let's begin with we'll get to the Tiger question, but let's begin with your something you sent me about top course factor adjustments at the Masters. First of all, let's explain what that means. Sure, that's so,

and you alluded to it earlier. Um, the Masters the year to year correlation of an individual golfer stroke gained from his past to future. So like T minus one or T to T plus one, UM is stronger at the Masters and than any other course on tour, and it's not even close. And and at the other end of that range is TPC saw Grass, where there is literally nothing about your prior year strokes. Game, explains UM, your future years. And so with the Master's it's it's

really important to understand course factor. And then, as I talked about in the book, you really want to you want to calculate it correctly. And course factor doesn't just mean you play well at Augusta. There's a lot of guys that play well at Augusta, UM, because they're great golfers. What you want to find our guys who raise their game at Augusta. For instance, Tiger has a positive course factor at Augusta. Phil has a very high course factor.

And that's amazing because their baselines coming into Augusta, the baseline being how did they perform over that whole year? UM is you know, amazing. So and that's why I say it's stronger at Augusta than any other. So what I have done is I've calculated UH the and I think we're gonna have a graphic of the time. There we go. Yeah, the top ten course factors at Augusta.

So these are and this is a minimum twelve rounds played, and these are the guys who have UH strokes gained essentially over expectation and expectation just being their baseline for the year, how they performed at Augusta. And it's an interesting list because there are some names you definitely expect on there and there are some names that that you might not. Um. And it's really the name some of

the names that are missing that uh that might surprise you. Um. But so I don't know if you want to, you know, put up the list, are we go? Well, what do you start? Before we put it up? We put it up? There you go, it's the start at ten and so tennis Tony Fenelle. Tony Fenel has been a staple of mine in uh predict you know, in my predictions for

the Masters. You may recall in twenty nineteen I picked him to win it, which was a really out there call when the book was published in January before the Masters. It you know, he didn't win, but it worked out. After the third round when he walked off the course in the third round, he was he was leading, he was guaranteed to be in the final group. At that point Mulinary did catch him, uh and was leading going

into the final round. And and I still feel if they hadn't moved up the torny early they had to remember if you remember, there was call for rain on Sunday, they moved tea times way up by hours. They put him in groups of three, and that brought Tiger into the final group. And I really feel well, you know, I I project that that that hurt Tony Feenelle a little bit. He didn't need the pressure of playing next

to Tiger Um. And when Mulinary dumped his ball on twelve and raised creek, I still can't believe Fenel then did it as well. MOLTI that was that was the turning point of that tournament, because finally Mullinari crack. Mulinari looked like he was gonna win the Masters. And then in the water and then Phene now in the water.

Who's a Dean or our mutual friend Dean was telling us yesterday was an interesting story about how Kepka had had Kepta gone in the water before this was the last group, kept the group before dumped it in the water. And apparently he and this is part of his plan. He shows no emotion, yes, so he didn't toss any grass in the air. He didn't like look up at

the wind like what's up? And you know kept what Kepka says is I don't want to give any clues to anybody watching as to whether you how the course plays. So Mulinari, who was coming up the eleventh at that point, wouldn't have been able to tell at a glance of of Kepka that anything had gone wrong, and so in some weird, vague way, it's almost like he almost assisted Tiger if you believe right that Mullinari saw no end,

there's no no danger. Will Robinson on the horizon right, and and then him and female both going in and then Tiger to the to the house exactly exactly you see Tiger's course factor adjustment. He was number nine. That is incredible because of the high level of play that Tiger was, you know, has always been at at the Masters. And then some names that might surprise you, uh, Corey Connors,

Russell Henley. That probably has to shock people, but again these are golfers who have raise their game at Augusta. They may end up I think in the case of of Henley and Connors, a couple appearances where they finished with seven seven strokes gained or more, um, you know, and that's almost averaging two around. That's way above what they've they've done on the p g A tour. We'll hear those names later coming up Joe's top ten Masters picks,

and I'm sure there's overlap. Yeah, we'll have some overlap here. Interesting number six Justin Rose there, um, I used I bar when we spoke last year when I gave my top ten list last year, you were doing it from the circle pool. I remember, and you may have had

west On as your your co host. And I borrowed one of your herbs that you had used during the Nationals playoff run in twenty nineteen, and I said that you are compelled to walk into certain at least take a twenty or fifty dollar billot and put it on Justin Rose, who was like a hundred and forty to one last year before teeing off purely because of his course factor. And of course he led after round one, and he led well into round three last year until Hideki I think I was after the rain delay in

RAM three really took over. But the Nationals word, by the way was obligation. Okay, yes, right, you were obligated to do that. I do have an obligated for you this year too, at the end of this super segment, like um, and then you've got you know, Leishman Ram, Hideki, Cam Smith and Jordan's speech. Jordan's speech always raises his game here, cam Smith number two, didn't he he had one all four rounds in the sixties. Yes, I think he was the first guy right that didn't win. Right,

that's right, he did not win. But that was that might was that the year Dustin ran away d J. That was the Fall Masters where Cameron Smith had four rounds in the six season, didn't even come close to DJ, come close to there and then Hideki's touch and go here right, well, exactly Hideki And this was again Hideki has been a staple of my top ten calls. You know, I've been calling for sushi at the UH at the

Champions dinner since twenty nineteen. You know, again, he just raises his game here and he's always had a pretty high baseline. Anyway, you won't see him on my top ten list this year because I have given thanks to what I call the Jason Day factor. I have stopped trying to handicap injuries because I've been burned with Jason Day so many times. I'm not so Hudeki. I've just left off. I don't know where his health wise, if he's healthy, he has great you know, we saw it

last year. He finally but last year wasn't the only year he'd have been on this list, you know, even without last year's But Jordan's speed is number one on the top course factor adjustments. That's right now. What's important to remember, Gil is that is above the baseline he's playing at. Jordan's speed has never had a lower baseline than than right now. The last six months are are like replacement level. So yeah, you know, he won't be

on the top ten list. It kind of a just miss thing um because I'm still expecting him to play above his baseline, but his baseline is lower than it's been, so that's why he doesn't crack the top ten. Interesting we will find out what Joe's top ten Masters picks are for the two Masters which begins Thursday. Will do that next. And his thoughts on Tiger specifically coming back numbers games these Sports Betting Network we talked about him

last week. Are you in the camp that it's laughable that anyone would make any positive wagers whatsoever on Eldrick Tiger Woods or are you in the camp of you better not laugh about this? Dude? At this course. Yeah, you bet right. Yeah, I don't. And I don't think he's going up there for any ceremonial reasons. I think he is fully intending to play, and you know, maybe it's a game time decision, but he he did in fact to use those that phrase and and so yes,

I believe he will be playing. Uh, you know, you cannot count him out. I remember I was very high on him in nineteen, had actually picked him third that year and ahead of everybody that was favored over him. Um, but he had played outstanding golf for the six to nine months leading up to last year's Matt to the to the nineteen Masters. You know, we don't have any baseline like that for this, so I look at the props.

It's very entertaining. Congratulations to Circa for you know, having entertaining bets out there entertaining and this is an entertainment business. And we talked about it at betbash er Matt Metcalf did where he is like, hey, look it's just fun. Yeah, it's fun. Those are fun bet so I'm not touching them. I hope that they all win, you know, on the bullish side, because we'd love to see Tiger and again for those looking at the bottom, there's and make the cutty, Yes,

it's plus one twenty that's all Again. Remember the Masters is like a ninety one field, you know, group field, not any one player field. And fifteen of those guys are sandy Lyle basically right, So it's right, fifty plus ties may the cut, which really means you're gonna probably have anywhere from fifty five to sixty sixty one guys making the cut. And yeah, so that's only thirty that

miss and the fifteen of them are ceremonial you know. Okay, um, this is the so before we get in your top ten, the real development, you haven't remained static with your with your master's data to tell us what that. So when I wrote the book, the book had twenty eighteen detailed stroke gains data strokes gained data for any Masters we can get strokes gained total, but the components of it were only available in twenty eighteen when I wrote the

twenty nineteen book. I have then added I also got a tip from someone, a reader who said to me, would you like access to seventeen and eighteen or sixteen and seventeen? I was like, of course, I would. So that was another eighty hours of work each tournament, logging every shot into But I now have a six year database, and after this year be seven and I think for Christmas, I'm gonna put together a big book and really dive into the details of the seven years of strokes gained.

But so what we have this year, Gil is we do have a new development. Not only do we know that you know that strokes gained have the highest correlation year to year um at this event, but now I can tell you which components are the ones that are driving that. And it was a surprise, and I will reveal I won't get into the standard deviations or the correlations, but the most important thing year over year at the Masters is strokes gained off the tea. That is surprisingly

has a very very high correlation. And I've got some great stats on a couple of guys in the top ten that we'll get to a number ten ten Masters predictions from jail. Yeah, number ten. We just saw his name,

Corey Corey Connors. Um Corey Connors and this is purely based on Corey Connors has played well in his three or four other appearances here, but this year he's coming in with his highest baseline in the last uh six and last twelve months, he's been about a stroke in a quarter better than uh uh than you know the field in strokes game total. Add to that higher baseline with his history here he sneaks into number ten. Number

nine Isander Shoffley. I don't think people remember how close he came to threatening Hideki last year until he dumped the ball in the water on sixteen. But if you watch that and and this was going over all the strokes, he didn't dump the ball in the water on sixteen. He came up just short in hitting that you know that that area in the back left on sixteen on Sunday, um, Now you're probably supposed to hit it onto the hill and let it roll down to the right, but he

was very close. Uh. Number eight is Russell Henley. And again this has to be a bit of a shocker. This is a very high high odds guy. However, Henley played in the Masters in every year from thirteen to eighteen except for sixteen, and in those four appearances they're stellar, no misscuts uh and way over his base line. Now he revamped his game. He's coming in with a higher

baseline than ever before he liked Connors. Over the last twelve months he's about a stroke in a quarter better, But over the last six months he's about a stroke in three quarters better uh than the than the average PJ player. So this is a compelling long shot to me. Now maybe you don't want you know, we're gonna throw a little bit on the outright, but this might be a very top twenty, top ten type interesting that to place on Henley UH. Number seven is Patrick can't lay.

He does not have a good uh of course adjustment history here. It's pretty much flat versus his baseline. He puts very poorly here, but you cannot ignore how high his performance level has been over the last twelve months. So I've got him at number seven. It's a probably a little bit of a fade based on his actual outright odds. So you but you know, you just can't discount how well he's played over the last twelve months. But despite coming close in nine teen, he really has

not played here well. And his putting X I say, like the components, I can do his round by round putting um and it's it's not it's not favorable. Number six is DJ DJ when you get into the components. This is a surprise. The Dustin Johnson has been uh from one year to the next, the best strokes gained

approach player at the Masters. He has of the of all the rounds he has played here, he has the highest percentage of anybody who we have strokes gained Detail four in terms of positive strokes gained round uh um approach. That is, in eighteen rounds he has sixteen or eight nine percent um that have been positive strokes gained approach um. Number five is Cameron Smith. Cameron Cameron Smith has played very well here. Uh. Even before he won the you know,

before he wanted a TPC Sawgrass. Um. You know, I like him here. That obviously shortened his odds. Um. I like the top four better. But camp Smith, you know, look for him to be a factor. He just puts so well here and he's such a great potter. Um. So that that's number four, Number five, Number four Scottie Scheffler. UM. I wish Scottie Scheffler hadn't won three tournaments in the last you know, two and a half months, because those were some great odds at the beginning of the year.

And he, you know, I had it tied up, but I don't. I don't try to guess these in the future, but I knew was his course factor was great, his details on his eight rounds here. He didn't appear on the course factor list because he's only played eight rounds with only played eight rounds here. But he's just got positive readings across the board. Um and obviously he's playing great. Uh I you know, I think he's gonna be a factor here for a number of years. Number three is

here a big surprise. We got a guy up around fifty two one, and that's Daniel Berger. Yeah, Daniel Berger. And this is the shocker I mentioned about off the strokes gained off the tea being so important from year to year. Daniel Berger has played fourteen rounds here and of him, so, I guess that's thirteen thirteen out of fourteen rounds have been positive strokes gained off the tea. There's only one guy better, and we will get to him,

um and so. And he puts tremendously here. The weakness is the irons, for sure, that's the weakness of his game. But he's got a nice baseline coming in. He has just displayed such excellence here that I think we can put him down for three or four strokes gained off the tea, then he's putting well, all right, He's just got to get hot iron scoring and I you know, price wise, I love it. I can't take him above

the top two guys because number two is Rory. Um. Rory has played better in the last six months than people think. You know, he's you know, I think there's more narrative hurting him than uh than actual performance. Obviously, he has also had some meltdowns and majors. Um. I do wonder what goes on in his head. Um, But you know, this is Rory off the tea obviously is tremendous here as well. But no one, no one is better off the tea at Augusta. Think John rom He

has had twenty rounds here. He has never had a negative strokes gained off the tea in those twenty rounds, and in fact, his worst was gaining a half stroke on the field. It's just incredible. And his putting of everybody in the field that we have data on to his worst stroke scawn round game putting was negative one and third strokes. That's the best of any worst so John Ram is my pick to win it. I know it's Chalky. I wish it weren't, but there's a reason

just any any way, you're weighing these different factors. John Rom's gonna come out and I haven't play on Rory, so I'm happy about that. By the way, here's a tweet. Is this one of your college buddies right here? Who just sent a picture of you from your from your younger days? Joe who said, Gil, he said, uh, I'll get the exact quote here from the tweet, but he said,

a picture of you as a young man. He said, Hey, Gil, are you sure you want to trust this s bestimen with your hard earned dollars with his master's pick hashtag bet profit. It is my understanding those records had been sealed forever. That is a picture of man, you know, whether it's Billy, Joel or Adele. That's when we were young. And now to break down the eighties six the Masters at Augusta, which of course begins this Thursday. It's my primetime Action partners Matt Brown and Kelly Bitlin as we

do this from the South Point Studio. Gentlemen, how you doing? You're excited you've got masters fever. I do know. I do know. All of a sudden, yes, after after the week of last week gets by, and you know, we get through everything, and I sat down yesterday and started really focusing in on everything. I am I'm pumped. I'm pretty pumped. How many outright you got right now? I have one, two, three, four, five, six and seven likes?

Kelly you Yeah, I'm I have five made two at least two dads, So yeah, I'll be up to help me up to seven. Okay, before we get into all your picks, whether it's outrights or derivatives, can I ask you the same question I asked of really everybody I had on but Joe p to before this on the podcast as well, Where do you guys stand on the

whole Tiger Woods deal? Here? As we sit here recording this on Monday, it appears as though he is going to try a tea off on Thursday, and there is a faction of people I'm guessing maybe this is you, guys, but there's a faction of people who before you could almost finish the sentence, Hey, what do you think Tiger has a shot? The chuckles the snickers will begin, But then there's a group of people who are like, yeah, you probably shouldn't laugh whenever Tiger Woods is involved at

the Masters. Yeah. I watched one American hours of him just hitting balls on the range today because Golf Tannel, Golf Channel went out and they were like the title of the broadcast was you know, you know range, and they were gonna have interviews with players and this that not. It was not that they just basically sat a camera on Tiger Woods for an hour and it was nothing but him hitting balls for an hour. So and your conclusion was, he's out there with Justin Thomas, his good buddy.

They're chucking it up, you know, laughing and you know, hooping and hollering and all that, and like he seemed in great spirits, looked like, you know, things fine, didn't you know, there's no win thing, there was no whatever. It looked like a dude who was warming up to play that week, so he's gonna play. I didn't watch an hour of it, but I watched about twenty minutes of it, and I had multiple quotes from players right like Kucher was out there, He's like he's ready to go,

He's ready to go right now. Um, so I think he's gonna play too. I think that these I think the markets with him are interesting as you get further than that. Like I mean, we've seen a circle that complete one stroke prob. I mean that's up to minus fifteen fifty as of Monday afternoon. I think he's gonna tee off. I think that you should. I think with Tiger Woods, how well he knows this course. I don't think I would not be making a bet either way on him making or missing the cut. Um. I think

his finishing position could become interesting. I think it's up to fifty seven right now at circa uh kind of wishing I would have jumped on it, A back to seven kind of wishing I would have jumped on it. Friday. I think we were talking about it. It was forty seven, was hoping it was going to continue to think and then play over. I think the four days and we talk it's a little bit about this on Primetime Action

last week. I think the four days is gonna be tough for him to get all the way through that two days though, and to make the cut. I'm not betting either one way or the other on Tiger Woods that the number had fallen just to kind of get back to your original quick the number had fallen to like a laughable state where when he got down to forty two one, that's just ridiculous, right, I'm looking right now. I mean at points bet out there it is gotten back up to eighty to one right on Tiger, which

I still think that's not enough. We're getting there, but it's it's approaching right like, like I don't think that's enough, but it's at least approaching where it should be, right, like somewhere appropriate for a guy that hasn't played a competitive stroke of golf in seventeen months should be hundred twenty something like that or whatever. I don't care if

it is Tiger Woods, you know. I mean, this is a guy who has not played a tournament in seventeen months, you know, on tour and so uh and not all that coming back off of a horrible, horrible injury that almost ended his career. So sure, because in nineteen he

was playing like great golf before that a hundred. He had like a hundred holes like leading into that tournament where he was like on like, I mean, it was kind of like where everyone kind of started going dude, what is what's going on with tighter like this is weird? You know, it's not the same scenario. Okay, Um, So unlike saw Grass, which would be the least predictive of all golf courses, Augusta is actually the most predictive from

year to year. What are you specifically looking for as the number one skill set at Augusta and then break it down from there, sir? Yeah, So I mean, like I said, it's it's played on the same at least the same grounds since so this is one of those things where the course is morphed over the years. For sure, it's gonna be playing at yards this year, which is the longest that it's ever played. They added to the par four, eleventh, they added to the par five. Both

of those have been lengthened. So the one of them five yards now when five fifty yards now. But the course, yes, the land that's the same, The stra is still the same. The greens have still are still lightning fast with all kinds of undulations. The faraways are still wide, but all kinds of slanted and all different things like that. So

it's basically all the same. So you know, for me, first and foremost, I kind of just started to look at the field in general to start to whittle down, right, because we're not only one players now becausej spawn one on Sunday, so he's he gets in, so ninety one

players that's including Tiger Woods. You you start to look at this and it's like, Okay, Sandy Lyle, Jose, Mariel athobl VJ seeing Larry Miys, Mike Weir, Fred Couples, Patrick Harrington, and Bernard Longer are all playing, right, that's eight players right off the top. You can just whack right out right out of consideration, you know, I mean, like, for an example, Larry Miys played last year, he shot seventy nine, you know, like Sandy Leisle played last year, shot seventy five.

You know, it's it's they're to us, they're awesome. Well, I mean like like they just exactly what I was thinking about. It's like if they were playing with us. Yeah, they're a comparatively yes to the best golfers in the world, Like they have they've got no shot, right, and then you've then you've got amateurs in here. So there's six amateurs. I'm not saying they have no chance of winning, very

very very little chance of winning. So if there's ninety one, you subtract those fourteen players were sitting at seventy seven. Then you add in Bryson to Shambo, Paul Casey, Hitechi Matsiyama, Abe Answer, Webb Simpson, all these guys coming in injured, right, these five more guys that you take out of there.

So like now we're we've whittled down from ninety one to about seventy now right like at once you kind of take out the olds and the amateurs and the old so it's like all those So now we're down to seventy gal and fifty and ties make the cut. So it's so it's like, you know, we're down like seventy players that we really consider having a chance here in the fifteen ties make ties you and it usually

ends up seven somewhere like that. So yeah, something like that. Yeah, I would say more probably more than closes makes me something like that, which is why I get back to Tigre for as second, the reason that he's so close to a coin flip maker miss the cut because we just identified the window in between those two days, like thirteen golfers right between making it and being sandy Lyle

or whoever. And the other point I think with with you know, how what what Matt just laid out is it requires you if you bet golf every if you only bet the majors and you're a lightbet, you know golf better, this doesn't really matter. We're about to safe. You bet golf regularly, like Matt and I do, you kind of need to adjust numbers then in your head of you know, what is a fair outright price? What

is a fair top ten price? It was a fair top twenty price when you consider the field is already shorter than what you normally get on the PGA Tour, but they're extra shorter when you're eliminate guys like that already. So I think that's that's one thing that you kind of if you're doing this regularly, have to be able to adjust as you go in and started price shopping and betting on plane just took ten minutes and avoided Gil's question altogether, which was what are we looking for

in golfers? But you know, kind of like whittling down some of so first and four most, I like just I lopped off a bunch of guys like yeah, so first and foremost I lopped off a bunch of the guys and then going to here. You know, listen, we do off the tea every single week, so that obviously has to be something that we look at. But this is this is act. This is a bomber's course, right, Like driving distance matters, So driving distance is super prominent

for me this week. Um, you're looking at guys that play long par four as well, because we're looking at a lot of you know, four to five yard par four,

so we're looking at that type of stuff. Me personally, I took in bogie bogie avoidance and three put avoidance into my model this week because you gotta kind of be patient here at this at this course, and so you just gotta take some pars sometimes, right like you just gotta be able to kind of take your medicine because these greens are super super tough, experience are super super fast, so sometimes you just gotta lie get up there and take your two pud and move on right

and not trying to be super super aggressive on all this stuff. And so that was really what I was looking at this week, Kelly. I mean I did a short game as well, because again, like I said, these greens have a lot of runoff, and so there's gonna be a lot of guys that think they're on the green and it's gonna roll right off, and they gotta have some nice little touch and and and be able to get it back up there close. But that's really all I looked at this week. I didn't go super

complicated in the model. Yeah this uh you know me there, I think the masters and the Master's model is kind of you know, basically rinse and repeat from the years before. You may maybe add a little bit, uh not for me, it wasn't much, though, I would say I'm looking at it now. So over sixty percent of my model is distributed between uh stroke skate, approach, stroke screened off the tea,

driving distance, and green and greens and regulation games. So that's you know, greens of regulation hand in hand was shot with approach. You know, it's uh that they kind of go hand in hand. Your approach shots are off and getting on the green. But just pulling up some of these stats from Justin Ray he had earlier for

just for people to understand how important these are out there. Uh, since strokes gained approach at AUGUSTA, leaders are Jordan's speed, Louis Oostays and Corey Connors and Deckie Mazy Young i'm a Paul Casey and Webb Simpson some interesting names in there, and then most strokes game ball striking, which combines off the team approach at the Master's last four years, DJ, Corey Connors, John rom Justin Thomas, Bubba Watson and Brooks kept in that or so those are things that you know,

you know, I was looking at heavy as far as other stats that I did sprinkle in there, Matt scrambling a little bit, and you know something we always I there's been years where there has been massive outliers of guys that have scrambled well at the Master's really keeping the exactly it was just how he chose to. Yeah,

I did a little bit of scrambling. I did a little bit of short game like yourself to just as my putting, uh kind of it's note of strokes game putting, when strokes game short game did bogie avoidance like you did as well, um. And then a little bit of strokes Game Part five, Part four and some proximity to two hundred, which includes a couple of the Part three's in there, as well, so yeah, that that was you know, pretty similar models, just lightly adding uh some things they

year as opposed to last year. Um, and just kind of tweaking, tweaking how I waited some things. But it's it's heavy off the tea and heavy approach. And you you've you've done enough shows with us to know like, I don't ever I don't ever wait putting like it's just not a not a thing for me. And if we want to kind of drive that home here at Augusta because it's two random it's so hard, like it they you talked to anybody right, like they can't read

these greens. It's super super hard to read these their lightning fast with all kinds of it. So the last fourteen winners of this tournament strokes game putting rank in the world. So Headeki won it last year. He was a hundred and seventy five in the world and putting, you go back. Dustin Johnson's forty eight tiger Woods was seventy four, Patrick Reid was seventy second, Sergio Garcia was

a hundred and sixty second, Danny Willett was sixtieth. The only guy that was inside the top twenty guy, the only guy that was inside the top sixty. Jordan's speed was ninth overall, Bubble Latson one oh nine, Adam Scott one thirty, Bubble Watson one two, Charles Swartz six, Phil Mickelson one thirty three. So you get the picture, like, you don't have to be a good putter to win here, right, because it's so hard for everyone that it's you don't have to be good because you can't really be all

that good. That's good advice because I'm sure there's some people out there trying to figure this out based on putting stats, and if you're doing that, you're if you're going down the road. It's I mean, that doesn't mean whoever wins this probably will have a great putting week. To say, you know, it's just hard to predict. It is extremely hard, difficult to predict, especially at this golf course before we get your pigs. And I asked this

earlier because the deal on the weather forecast. If you look at the weather forecast, so Friday Friday looks like you remember when we do football games, and here the three of us and we're like, well, you know, anything over fifteen miles per hour kind of gets dicey. You're at twenty miles per hour. It's like a thing, and it's supposed to be twenty mile per hour. Wins on Friday? Do you have? Does it? First of all? Does that screw the pooch on your models a bit? Does it

scare you a little bit? Not a ton for me, just because this course is so tree lined, like it'll it'll be swirling and it'll certainly mess with those guys some for sure, but a little bit less here for me than most places to where I would be worried about something like that, So I didn't factor in all that. I think it's one of those things for me and almost every golf tournament that it's hey, be aware of it, like you just said, Gil, and then keep your eye

on it. And if it's something that like, there's a lot of bet there's a lot of bets that I haven't put in yet that maybe, uh, you know, I'm gonna wait till things maybe clear up two days from now you've got a clearer vision of how it's really gonna look on Wednesday instead of a Monday, Right, I think that all matters a lot. I don't think you can be sitting here, you know, on a Monday before a golf tournament and really making bets based off of

what you think the weather is gonna be. Even when you try to do that on on a Wednesday, it's sometimes shift. I mean if it shifts by a couple hours and you're targeting certain certain groups, that strategy can go completely out the window. So I think it's something to to always keep in mind, and you know, you

keep your eye on it. And for this this week for sure, you know the way they are predicting, it could absolutely mess with how you might want to do, uh, you know, make or misscut bets, uh, first round leader bets, you know who. It could be several things that impact that get impacted by that. But I think as far as this whole tournament betting, think it's something to keep in mind, you know, look at it as you get

closer to the tournament. I just wouldn't be building in building that into how you're gonna predict, you know, make your bets right now on a Monday. I mean, yeah, what else are you gonna do? Right? I gotta throw it out everything, But something to keep in mind for sure, because that could that could obviously reak havoc. All right, um,

let's get to it. Let's get to some names. However you want to do this, yeah, I mean, so look you look at the top, and you can basically make a case for so many of these dudes at the top, right, I mean, like you look at John Ram's last four

Masters T five, T seventy nine and four. You know, Peter, for what it's worth, he had Rama is the best, like cam Smith in three of his last four Masters T tin T two, T five, Jordan's Speed T three last year forty six and that fall version, that weird fall version UM one third T eleven T two one it and then a T two he like like Jordan Spie like of course history here eight starts, eight made cuts,

five top threes and at eleven. Right. If so, if we're we're talking outside of Tiger Woods, as far as like course history of modern players, I understand we're not going back to like Ben Hogan and all these people like modern players here as far as course history outside of Tiger Jordan's Speece is like the guy, right, I mean, like and and again we talked about this is maybe the only course where of course history really and truly does play into kind of how you go so you

get to the top of the board here just quickly again again back, Like that's what leads an approach strokes game to approach Jordan Spieth, Like, that's not you know, he's a good approach player. Not sure we would necessarily have I wouldn't have guessed that he laid that in that statistics the Masters, that's for sure. Yeah, So just

you make a case for all these guys. I just started to kind of whittle down from an odds perspective and then at least a little bit of a little bit of recent form perspective, and it's like, listen, John rom is phenomenal, awesome, awesome golfer. I just can't get there.

Whereas current odds are a comparatively to the rest of the guys at the top of the board, right, Like I'm able to get like I'm able to get Cam Smith at eighteen to one, which I do have in my account, Like I'm able to get Cam Smith at eighteen to one. A guy who has he also has good course history here. He is also a guy who's

won this year. He's also a guy who what for whatever reason, continues to find his way into the top tens when we get to Sundays and he's always around and I don't have to pay that premium that I'm having to pay for John Rom you know, and listen, he very well might go out there and win this thing, as I said, T five, T seventeen nine and fourth last four trips. Yeah, like his last four trips here. You very well might go do that. But you know, we're looking at at some places eight nine, ten, ten

to one on that. I'm really getting double that up there, you know. Yeah, I'm just I'm really getting double that on a guy that I think, as far as skill set and for him and and all that has has about the same amount of win equity is as wrong. So I mean, my shortest guy is Justin Thomas. He is a guy that if you go over the model, he does not have the kind of master's history that you've just been talking about. No, he he really doesn't. He just has the skill set history that that I've

that's going on here. So in the model that I ran fifty rounds, he's second overall thirty six rounds, he is first overall twenty four rounds, he is first overall and then when I go to even twelve rounds, he's first overall in the model that ran. So this is just a trust the numbers, trust that this guy is one of the very best golfers in the world, and go ahead and play him there. And listen, we were able to get a little bit better number here than

we talked about this. We're not able to make all the bet you guys are rest of the country, but we at least get some outright numbers that are rogue every now and then. And I was able to get him kind of like sixteen to one ish whenever I got him, which you can't find anywhere restling. I haven't even that's the one I haven't even chopped round on yet. Was hoping I could find find a better number here in town. So love hearing that from Matt, because uh,

same here. I didn't even run the last fifty round model for this mad but thirteve he has painted across the board number one in my model, Like I said, cam Smith at eighteen one. This is a guy who in every single version is top twenty, if not top ten in this And also we're talking about win equity here, and that's you know, we're betting out rights, I won't win equity. This guy can go and win tournaments. He has proven that he can go and win on a Sunday,

and he can track people down. He can also protect leads as well. And so who is your number one, Kelly? I'm sorry, Thomas, but just number one basically. So he's in there at eighteen to one. I'm playing the number one player in the world as well. Kelly turned me on to a better number that I was even seeing here in town, got Scottie Shecheffer at twenty two one, and I can't I feel really really good about that. I mean, this is the most consistent golfer pretty much

going right now. And we talked about win equity. I mean, he's gone out one three times in his last five starts. And once you you know you you kind of get that ball rolling with the guy that's as talented as

he is. We've seen guys rattle off and we've seen guys continue to to pound the leaderboards after they kind of get that monkey off their back of that first win where everyone kept saying, when Scotty Shelfer gonna finally win, when's it gonna finally what's what's his number if he didn't win three tournaments in the last two months, let alone, even if he only one, like once thirty not higher maybe third thirty. Well it was thirty five, I mean it was thirty five six weeks ago. Was there, It

was thirty five six weeks ago. So so three wins just knocked it down to twenty. So have him at twenty um and listen, this is the long time, the long time ticket that I've been holding on too. It's Sam Burns, and and this is I wanted to get out ahead of the number. It was. I found eighty five. Kelly even got it better than that. At eighty seven. You can't find him. I mean, he's he's fifty or forty everywhere right now. So we did beat that number

by a ton. But the thing that made me feel really good is in every single version of this model that I ran, Sam Burns finished inside the top five in every single version of this model. Because the guy doesn't three put, the guy doesn't the guy doesn't bogey a lot, and he's out there able to to hit

the approach shots. He's good. He's good from a short game perspective, and then he's also pretty good off the tea as well with driving distance, and so he's inside the top twenty, top sixteen actually in this field and driving distance as well, and so he just has everything that I was looking for in this and and so he'd be able to get him at that type of number. Was fantastic for me. In my last two plays were just number plays so off market that there's it's impossible

for you to pass up. I got Luke List at four hundred and fifty two one. You can't find him anywhere, like he's won thirty everywhere else like the rest of country right now. Got him at four hundred and fifty one. A guy that's one a tournament this year, a guy that's one a tournament this year, you know, like it's it's so that's just strictly a numbers playing. The others was just a number play. Was Robert McIntyre. He is a guy that actually does show up pretty well in

in my models, like overall as well. But two hundred and four two to one here in town, down the street at Circa there, Kelly, this guy is one ten at DraftKings, he's one twenty at FanDuel. So you were getting more than double at Circle what you're getting at the books the rest of country or whatever. And and they just you know, they move their odds pretty aggressively. And and sometimes for a guy like like McIntyre, he's

a lefty as well. We know lefties have had a tell of success at at Augusta, and he has fault. He he keeps showing up in kind of like the top thirty in my model, and at two seventy four to one, that just doesn't add up to me, that just doesn't equate. So that's that's the type of stuff I look for when I play these these longer shot guys,

and so that's kind of my card right now. I'll probably add another name or two here before it's all said and done, but I'll probably just start getting aggressive in the head to heads, getting aggressive in the groupings, trying to target guys to go after and fate, you know. I mean, again, these guys that are coming in and playing injured, I'm gonna go after those guys. I did it at the I did it at the AT this past week. So you haven't done the head to heads yet? No, No,

I have put them. Who's the two seventy four to one now again Robert McIntyre. Okay, uh do you so do you end up now with more masters with more outrights on this tournament than you typically do on other tournaments? Yes? And is the reason for that because the field is smaller. The field is smaller thing you said at the top, Yes, and so I'll have some more more outrights than usual because of like we said, I only think that there's about seventy guys that have a shot in the first place.

Of those seventy x amount of them don't fit what I'm looking for to gover that. I mean, they won't win, but that's what not what I'm looking for. And so now I've got this little pool here of like thirty guys that I think really can can win this thing. So bets on a significant portion. So I'll put you know, I'll put in eight to ten kind of outright. Yeah, I think that the you know, it's the same for me. I don't think there's even more that goes into that.

It's just the you know a lot of the ones that that Mad and I have both bet together over the past several months. You're just you're trying to pick good and pick off good numbers at the right time, right, and so that's Luke List. Uh you know that was Sam Burns where we got him. Even Scotty Scheffler just a week ago, whatever the heck that was, Man, it was it was only a week ago, week and a half ago. Um, you're just trying to jump on some of these numbers before you know they're gonna move too.

So I think that some of those, like I bet a little lighter than normal. But you know, because I hadn't run models, hadn't run everything for this week yet, but kind of knew those were guys that numbers were gonna fold drastically on. So I wanted to get out ahead of him. Um, as far as outright said I have right now are everything that was made before, before today, before this week. I'll be adding on a couple here,

Scotty Scheffler twenty two one. Like Matt talked about Daniel Berger fifty five to one, which is maybe the only bat I've made the past few months that I would say I maybe regret a little bit, but it's still a good number on him. He's still not seeing him early around that he's a little shorter, about forty five to one in most places. Uh, Sam Burns eighty seven to one, Gary Woodland a hundred to one. Uh, I am on because I will not miss Gary with Len's

next win. Uh. The perpetis that's all right, luc is four one. Like Matt brought up other ones that I plan on adding. Justin Thomas, I'm going to play and that is one that UM like like Matt's in his models, in my models where we're seeing him number one painted across the board in all my models that iran Uh, Matt's two outside of his top fifty. Uh. That is a bet I will be putting in. I think that if I see a sixteen to one, I will jump

on it. I think the other good advice out there, Matt is if you if you're looking to bet, you know a ram Or and JT, one of these guys at the top of the board, you know a lot of the betting that's gonna occur over the next few days is not gonna be on them. Per Se, You're gonna get a lot of the public coming in on longer numbers, and there's not only so much room those guys can drop. So I think if you can also wait a little bit, if you see some books and

I'm starting to go down, maybe jump on it. But a lot of times those numbers will go up, you know, at one or two or you know, you know, three little points there, So get on that point too. And and this is something like if you want to keep a bullet or two kind of in the tank, right

and fire in tournament. So only ten of the of the players that have finished t ten or better played their best round on Thursday over the last five masters, right, So you're only talking about ten percent of the guys that finished inside the top ten that their best round came on a Thursday. So you're you're gonna get guys that that again, play kind of the long game here. Maybe maybe just go out one under, maybe two under on Thursday, find themselves three four strokes off the lead

and you can't get a more favorable number. And you have that kind of in I pocket on some of these guys that we're talking about the top of them exactly. And you're right, that is something that I will probably play that strategy with j T. One of the one of the other things that if you can do if you do have access to the to the draft kings and the point bets points batting MGMs and fanduels out there. We we laugh at this all the time. Is you

can wait till Thursday. If your guy teas off later in the day, wait till these early guys go off and then score a score a few uh, you know, scored a few holes, and sometimes those odds jump up a few points just because other guys have teed off and posted semi decent numbers already. So if you're like me and you and you're you're, you're upset over just a small difference in numbers, you might just have to wait a little bit and you can get a better number.

So j T I will I will add pre tournament, but like Matt said, will probably also leave some wiggle room to jump on him in tournament as well. One guy that I definitely have that plan with his Victor Hovland. Um. I'd like to play Vic this week, Matt. Uh. You know, the tournament history obviously is not exactly there with a player like that, but he was top five in every model that I ran. Um, I'd like to be on

him at some point this week. I don't know if I'm willing to bet him at twenty one, which is where he's painted at across everywhere East Coast. If I can find longer numbers than that here in town, maybe I'll hop on in pre tournament, but he might be an in tournament play for me. Another guy who was

top ten and every one of my models, Jakin Neiman. Um. You know another young guy not exactly a ton of course history here, um, but for everything that I weighed in models in recent form wise walking Hman coming in play really strong. We saw him win you know earlier

this year out in California at the Genesis. Uh. He's fourth in my last twelve twelve rounds model for everything I punched him with him, So I'll probably take a small piece of an outright on him, love him as a top twenty bet this week also mix it up. This is where I think again, if you're betting at his DraftKings, vandel Points, met MGM, look for some of these other markets. If there's top South American posting or something like that, you might be able to get a

good number on him there. Um. Other guy that's it for outrights that I was targeting. Other guys that I have circled for finishing position and match finishing position and matchup bets Matt Adam hadwin you you've been on him in the past few weeks. I mean, he's just coming in hot right now. I think he's he could be a good top forty bet had him circled for that. Shane Lowry kind of same thing. Top thirty, top thirty or top forty market. I have him circled for that.

Like you said about Sam Burns, numbers continue to back it up even to this week. So I think even outside of the outright bet on have on him, I'll be looking to at a top twenty with him um Luke list as well. Top forty I think is a good market met him in there. Uh So those are some of the guys that I'm targeting finishing positions. You know, a lot of those markets just opening today, a lot

of matchups not even available to us yet. But those are some other guys that I had circled that might not have the win equity that we always talk about, you know here on on Primetime Action. We talked about it often when we're breaking down some of these golf tournaments. I'm not sure I'm running too bets Shane Lowry or Adams had When to go out and win the Masters. But these guys are coming in hot. I think you

can take a nice finishing position back. We're gonna say to Sam Burns, to my thing, and I listen, I have a an awesome number on him. Whatever they're gonna say, uh heaving the first time winner since Fuzzy Seller. I agreed, there hasn't been. Sam Burns also has multiple you know, like Sam Burns also has multiple wins under his belt, Like heading into to this tournament here, I don't think that this is like I don't think this is gonna be too big for him. So I'm not incredibly worried

about that. If you do want to. You know, these guys that we all talked about, we talked about course history, we talked about how this played on the same grounds over the last five years. They're thirteen. There's only thirteen guys that have multiple top ten finishes in this tournament of the last five years. A lot of the names you'd expect Rom Dustin Johnson, Jordan's Speeth, Justin Rose, Rory McElroy, cam Smith, Patrick Reid, Tony fen now actually has played

this course really well. Now he's coming in and in not the greatest reform, but he started to play a little bit better this past week as well. Webb Simpson, we talked about him with an injury situation, but he does fall into that category. Brooks Kepta, Marc Leishman, Xander Chaffle, and Corey Connor's actually is another guy. Grey Connor's anecdotally has come up over and over and over again that I just want to go back to the advice you

both gave one. Matt, you said, hey, listen, and there's a reason, like we're doing this podcast obviously before the master starts, but it doesn't mean you are confined to bending out right now. You can wait after the first round to get better prices on guys that were much shorter shots. Um, that's always a good strategy. And Kelly's saying the same thing. But you know, during the first round even right the folks who can have not teed

off in the afternoon, that's always good advice. What one follow up to this, well, a couple of follows, but one with a guy like Jordan's Speed, who we were talking earlier. His course factor is the best at this particular of course that Augusta he is just has a great course history, but he's coming into this Master's probably the worst he's ever played as a body of work. So what what wins out in that case for you?

So there have been if you go to like some case studies, right like, it kind of says, don't really buy like, you know, don't really let it buy into So for example, Patrick Reed was kind of stumbling when he came in, and then and then and then he won, right like, even Hadeck was not like playing very well at all, and then Headecki one, right, and then there

are several guys leading in. I think Adams. I think the year that Adam Scott one, he had missed like three cuts or something leading into the leading into the Masters. You know, So a guy like speech that has played as this as well as Speech has, I think I'd probably look past the form just a little bit here because it just seems like, for whatever reason, this just this just fits him, This course just seems to to fit him. That being said, he is not the longest

off the tea. He's not. Will monitor this over the next couple of days as well, and certainly you know in our on our big final preview for this on Prime Time Action River. But I want to see how soft the conditions are out there, because again we talked about distance distance being a help specifically on these par fives, and if there's no runout, you're you're gonna need to be long because you you need to get to these par fives and two score on this course like it

is it is. I mean, so Patrick for example, the year the Patrick Read one, he was thirteen under on the par five's right. Uh, Dustin Johnson and Hedeck you might there the last two winners both were eleven under on the par five's right. Yeah, if you look at like the collective aggregate scory of all that, like the part of three's in the par four, it's nobody makes their hands on those. It's all on the par fives.

So it's like if there's no run out and you're not long and you can't get up there in two and they have two puts at getting a birdie and stuff. So I would I if I find out it's like super super soft out there, I'm gonna wait driving distance even more. Yeah, that's h I that's a great point because that's one that um I didn't really a factory. I guess I hadn't really thought about it that way, Matt, But I have already been factoring off the tea and

distance so much anyways. But you know, I mean, that's you need guys that can get on the green and two on these par fives, and I'm I'm really, I'm really not interested in playing anybody else in this tournament and guys that can do that. So that that is if it whether whether even if it's not, even if it's done, raining can still affect things like that, So that is that's that's a great point. So have you done any derivative bets, any top tens, top twenties, anything

like that yet? Not not yet. We are not not posted here quite yet. So we're in Nevada, bout the way I've seen them, I have seen them rest of countries, so at least have a decent idea of what they're gonna look like whenever they get posted. So I've kind of started to get some some ideas of where I want to go with this. But um as always, like pretty much, any any guy that I unless it's like these super long shots or something like, pretty much any guy that I that I bet an outright on, I'll

have some sort of placement market bet on them. Um, so with you know, j T. Smith, Scheffler, Burns like all those guys, I'll have some sort of placement bet on those guys for sure. Um, but I don't know exactly which one it will be, whether we attend whatever might be only that same same for you, Kelly, Yeah, that's uh you know. Besides, so I've got the five out outrights bet already. I will be adding JT and maybe Hoveland if I find a good number on him,

I will bet a top twenty. I haven't bet anything yet, Gil, but I aready know I'll bet a top twenty on Hoflin. Um, I'll bet a top twenty on Neiman and then top forty on Hadwin. Is what I saw, Like like Matt said it was, I saw the numbers on the East coast. I kind of have a rough idea of where I'm gonna be bet what numbers something to be betting? Uh, top forty on Adam had When, a top thirty on Shane Lowry Um and Sam Burns, top twenty on and

probably a top forty on lucal List as well. All Right, last thing here, last couple of days, I didn't I don't believe I heard either of you mentioned Brooks CapCo. Nope, I didn't. And it's a player, and it's a player that I struggled with more than than others. Like I didn't even speak up when you asked about Jordan Speith because you kind of know my feelings about him. Already talks a lot, talks a lot, shut up on a damn course Jordan's which it doesn't have anything to do

with Betty. But I just checked my bottles. I don't have him the best. I have his last twelve. He comes in at thirty fourth in my bottle. That is the recent form I do value to the absolutely. Of course, form matters here as much as as much in tournament history. Man, it matters here more than anywhere else on tour. But I still gonna trust my numbers a little bit. I'm

not gonna play speed. He goes and wins. You have to be able to accept certain guys going out and win winning, and I think Brooks it falls into that category for me too. I am more of a Brooks guy. Usually like betting him. He is rounding a bit into form. It seems like over the past couple of months this is definitely not the Brooks of last year. Um, but he's still just number of wise in my models, not anywhere near a spot I'm looking at playing. Yeah, it's

he's just he's the guy that I have. He's one of the guys, if not the guy I have the most trouble betting because it's just he's and he makes you perhaps the angriest if he wins. He never he never ranks very high in my in the stuff that I'm that I find important. But he just goes out and somehow figures out a way to get it done all the time. And you look at his here, I mean a T eleven, a T two, a T seven, and then I MISSCUTT, you know, and you're so you

just go like what the hell? Like, you know, what what does that make of that? You know? So it's um and no more Rikawe either for either of you know. I will actually be on full full fate of Morcalis, So I'll be targeting. I'll be targeting him Harden head to heads, I'll be targeting to Shambo Harden head to heads. I will likely be targeting as if he decides to uh to play um. If he didn't end up withdrawing because I mean it must be something it just had

undisclosed for him. But I mean, you know, he pulls out of his hometown tournament the night before, there's obviously something going on, you know, with him as well. So any of these guys that I think are that I perceived to be injured, so long as that makes sense, I'm gonna be targeting them. It is interesting that the age I agree with you to Shambo, I will be targeting against the Ambram answer. I think you bring up good points. Um, you know, morrical we love betting Morricale.

He is so last twelve, he's seventeen in my model. But other than that, he didn't crack the top forty on the top last twenty four, the last thirty six I we've just seen. I think it's with him. It's pretty simply he doesn't have you know, all the all the tournament history here that some of these other guys we've been talking about do gil And then I mean, as hot as more a cow has been at certain points in his career, he's not exactly like, you know, very hot right now. So I'm I'm okay with I'll

be okay with passing on him. But I think, I mean, every one of those guys you brought up him Brooks me, I'd be shocked. I think if we're sitting here on Sunday and they're winning. No, not at all. Random question to Sergio at eighty five to one or or better interest you at all? Just because of the number. No. No. I had to talk with somebody about Sergio today. They were wondering he's moved, and its not. It's not rightfully so in my mind, but he's like he's almost moved

into that the old category. The old it's hard, it's not. It's hard for Chris rock Line, not really old, just a little too old to be in the club kind of thing. Like in the modern era, guys forty three and older to uh to to win this tournament. You might have heard of him. Tiger Woods and Jack Nicholas only two guys I've ever done to guy. Yeah, alright, last question then, because I put words into your mouth the first time, but I want to get your honest answer. This.

The person who will win this, assuming you don't have some in match you know, in in tournament, bet on him. The person who will win this that will piss you off. The most based on the fact that you perhaps thought about betting them but you didn't, or whatever other reason. For me, it'll probably be Rory because I have because let's just he's a guy that I typically get on whenever the odds start to drift and stuff, and so I've been on him several times when the odds start

to drift. Fortunately was able to catch the win on him, you know, last year whenever the odds drifted all the way up to like one in that one tournament or something like that. And but it just it's just not there for me with with him right now. And so if he wins, I will feel great for him because completing that Grand Slam is awesome and all that it that'll be that that would be the one that just pisces me off the most, because this is this is typically where I where I pull the trigger and get

back in. I will be thrilled. It's uh, it's it's a I think it's a great question because I think it would right right as you were saying it right away, it was Rory or Brooks. In my head, I think it is Rory just looking at my numbers more because he isn't arrange as far as what I'm seeing on my models of absolutely I could, you know, I could

back up a bed for him, you know, easily. So I think there's I think it's probably him, because I think he's probably the guy will end up leaving off of my card and he'd probably he'll probably be one of the kind of last cuts that wouldn't what didn't make it. I can't wait for this on Thursday? Is there anything better than sitting on your butt on a couch watching the Masters and the coverage is is jacked up?

On Sunday? Is that what you were saying earlier? Do we have this conversation No, that was what I had that with Pete earlier, which is do we get to see all eighteen holes of the Masters on network television or do they like fluff off the first because I remember, like the Tiger year, we saw everything but did and we like only get the CBS coverage, you know on the greatest tournament of them all? Not quite at the beginning.

Masters is always limited. Yes, that pisces me off, So you have to like go streaming for the first part of it. Why why would they do this? Is in for we think a lot of revolutionary stuff like the coverage needs to get exponentially. Well, you know, I think you two should have your own podcast. You guys should have your own golf podcast. What would you call it if? If you and what's the working title? What? What was the first one? Birdies with Brown and Berni with Brown

and bid Three Bertie's with Brown and Bidlin. Alright, make that happen. Appreciate it. Thanks for listening for Joe, Peter, Matt Brown, Kelly Bidlin. Good luck with all your bets in the eighties six Masters stuff,

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android