Check it out. Man Now down Now Tuesday, April nine, Beating the Book Podcast. It's Gill Alexander. It's time for a tradition unlike any other, the Masters, specifically betting on the Masters, Golf's first major. Will do it two different ways. First with the man who literally wrote the book on strokes gained analysis at Augusta. Joe Peter, author of the twenty nineteen Masters Preview, the Joe Peter Tour Guy Masters Preview. Really unique stuff from Joe. We'll get into that first.
And then if you don't like the analytics as much as you like sort of a championship formula, much like I did with the n C Double A basketball tournament. Dave Tindall from Betfair and other outlets including Rotor World. He's got your championship formula if you will trend analysis for the Masters, and who does it reveal as the one and only champion of the twenty nineteen Masters. Now keep in mind last year he had Ricky Fowler. Ricky Fowler finished in second, So no guarantees ever, but a
great exercise in its own right. Joe Peter, Dave Tindel, The Masters on the Beating the Book Podcast enjoy now back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our Van studios in Las Vegas. Don't forget later on the show today Todd Wish neev You're like, who's Todd Wish? Now? If you're watching the Showtime Macau docuseries Action about sports betting. Uh, Todd is the gentleman
who sits at the South Point and bets all day long. Uh. Todd is a gregarious guy and has great stories and is a wonderfully smart, funny guys. So he's gonna be in a studio with us. Uh the second hour, we'll try to cook some stories out of him first though, making his return to the show. U a special numbers game investigation reveals once again that it is Masters week and this gentleman literally wrote the book on strokes gained analysis,
specifically to Augusta heretofore not available. Ladies and gentlemen, it's my friend Joe Pete. A good morning to you, Joe Gail. It's a plugure to be here at the Masters. Weeke intro is nice, but I think what we're really excited about is the possible World series preview with the Minnesota Twins visiting Queens, New York to take on the Mats. This might be the most highly anticipated in the league,
Max since the Subway Series of the late nineties. You know, you know the problem with you say that, Joe is my initial reaction is, oh, wait, did Joe actually do analysis on this and come up with us? And I'm guessing not. Perhaps the baseball the baseball sheets are closed. Yes, the baseball sheets are closed, Joe. So listen, You've been on a couple of times. You were kind enough to come in studio to to talk about your Masters preview.
Joe Pete has Tour Guide, a twenty nineteen Masters preview available on Amazon and everywhere else that books are sold. But for those who did not, h he are those two previous appearances, please, could you explain first of all, you know, your transition from baseball to golf and what it is that you actually did manually. Um that just it didn't exist before until you actually rolled up your sleeves and did the work. Uh Gil, I will get
to that. I'm gonna touch on what you opened with for thirty seconds though about my first appearance back in in studio in uh January, I was on for I think an hour. UM that served as the kickoff for the book. It was a wonderful kickoff. So I thank you and you are listeners because we all have the same passion. Uh. And specifically there was a podcast going you know for their shout out to that or a
call back to that. UM. This morning there is a one of the more popular golf broadcast is a house from d C, the old the Simmons Buddy who has the Fairway Rolling podcast, and on it was a gentleman named Chris Vernon and Chris specifically talked about listening on Visa and hearing about the book. When Chris Felika called in, that's when he was like, well, if if this is something Chris listens to, I'm going to pick up the book.
And he talked all about the book today on this podcast and Bee notes to me uh and that all goes back to the kickoff on your show, So thank you for that. Chris is a friend of show who's been on the show several times. Great great basketball guy from Memphis. But that's great that he that he uh found interest in them. That's awesome. Yes. So just this background, right, I transitioned from baseball to golf because I saw what I thought was a green field of opportunity to write
about golf data and maybe even make some discoveries. It kind of reminded me of, Hey, this is what it is, what it might have been like to be a baseball writer in the mid nineties at the early part of the UH saber metric revolution. So that drew me to it.
And so the idea for the book was to introduce UH sports fans and maybe golf fans who weren't into the stro gained uh, you know, movement to it, and to try to tell, you know, if I have a skill, it's not you know, it wasn't inventing this stuff, but hopefully it's telling the stories maybe that make it digestible and relatable to UH people who aren't you know, computer scientists. Uh.
So that's how it got started. And in terms of as I was digging into the world of golf data, um I, one of these shortcomings has always been that none of the majors has ever had short strokes gained data because the PGA Tour doesn't run those events. UM, you know, sort of going back to the advent of strokes gained and that still hasn't changed in terms of the Masters. It has changed at the PGA Championship, but
not the Masters. And while I was researching, I stumbled onto a pristine data set that nobody had ever touched on that was sort of embedded in the Master's website for the event. I then, um, as we talked about before, I handed he at allOur hundred plus strokes into a spreadsheet that was taken by the eight seven competitors and use that database to then apply the strokes gain framework and come up with some insights on the Masters that have never been available before. It seems they'd be very
well received. H It's fun um and it hopefully it'll give some people some insight to this year's event. Wait will that's for sure. I like the word I use I inhaled your book. I really did like it was just phenomenal. I don't want you to give away all the funding because I want people to go out obviously and then get your book. But if you could, because I know you come up with, uh, there's a list of about ten golfers in there. I think that you
uh that you highlight in the end. Why don't why don't we name a few off the bottom end of that ten if we could sure sure, and and we'll look, you know, let's I'll even start with one that's uh that I have in the top four. I had Justin Rose at number four, and I'd certainly stick with that.
And but what I will say is because all of us care about markets and value in pricing, and I firmly believe that Justin Rose and not the trio of golfers that he makes up in terms of the betting favorites, I firmly believe Justin Rose should be the betting favorite for this tournament, not Roy McElroy or not Dustin Johnson. So I will see value on Justin Rose in head to head matchups where he is a plus money against
both of those golfers. And in fact that that was one of the first things I jumped on yesterday when I was able to uh. And really the sort of history there is that not that those all three of them are exceptional golfers. They are the top tier of the p g A Tour. But Justin Rose has by far the best track record at Augusta. And as I do point out the book, um, of course, history matters more to Augusta by far in terms of correlation from year to year than any other stop on the PGA tour.
So when I put those you know, current form plus more blast year form plus course history, it makes Justin Rose to me, uh, the favorite over over those other two, over Rory and DJ. So that that's sort of a touch. Why don't you throw out another name and I'll i'll, I'll give some thoughts. Okay, let me let me give you a name that's not necessarily on your list. I can't remember if he was in your top ten, but
he's something I mentioned. I don't know if I said it on this show yesterday and behind the book with j Rude, I can't remember what show I said it on. But when I've made my bets and they are informed by your book, believe me, and Justin Rose is one of them. But I have this thing in my head where I'm like, you know who I didn't bet on. I didn't bet on Bubba Watson. And one of the things that I remember, So it's funny what what details
you remember from a book. But one of the things that I correct me if I'm wrong here is that when you looked at Bubba Watson's eighteen Masters, he was number three in driving distance and I want to say number two in driving accuracy. Joe, how does he lose that tournament? Yeah, he's got I think the way I summed it all up in a neat sentence for people who don't like numbers, is he drove the ball as accurately as Barnard, longer and as far as Rory McIlroy.
And that is a deadly combination for a golf course, and especially Augusta, when you know closer to the whole, you know is so important based on what iron you have in your hand, because those greens have small target areas. Uh. And yes he squandered that. In fact, as I point out in the book, his strokes gained off the tea was nearly nine uh nine strokes, which is that that is standard deviations better uh than than the rest of
the field. You just don't usually see that sort of spread on that skill um on a PGA Tour events, So he has got to Yeah, he was three strokes better than John Rum and Rory McIlroy. Uh in terms of strokes gained off the tea. That's a huge advantage that I would say he squandered last year. Uh, and I think it it bodes poorly for the future because
he cannot do that well right here. It's just impossible. So, you know, if he's shown a weakness with with his approach, shot and putting at at the Masters um in the last you know, especially last year. In terms of his current form um, I think he's overvalued. He really is hit or miss at at Augusta. He's really had three only three good tournaments last year and then the two he won, and then with a lot of stinkers in there, and that is not generally the profile of some of
the true Masters of Augusta. They do well year after year after year, and they're very consistent. Talking to Joe Peter, the author of the nineteen Masters Preview, Joe PETA's Tour Guide presents a twenty nineteen Masters Preview. We have a shot of the cover there for people who might want to just look and find it visually, Jeff, a little shot of the there. It is right there. Joe Peters Tour Guide Presents Masters Preview includes it never before seen
Augusta National Strokes Game Report. Let me ask about on rum Joe, because John is a guy who I sort of, uh, just a little dirty analogy. Used to call the the
Jacksonville Jaguars of sports bettors. In other words, until the Jaguars had their really good season in twenty eighteen eighteen, that is the year before last, they were always the professional betterters team of choice during the off season, like this is the year, this is the year where the Jaguars are going to do something, and it just never happened, right Like, year after year after year, it never happened. John Rum feels that way when it comes to Major's.
How do you feel about him entering the twenty nineteen Masters, because he's he's had some indication that success could be headed his way, that's for sure. Yeah, he's he's well suited for this course. He's only played it twice, he's made the cut both times, and last year he played I think it was he was finished fourth alone. Uh, he played very well. And when you look at how he did it, it wasn't with a hot putter that you think might uh you know, we would have more
variability to it. It was more if he does have a hot putter, this is his tournament to win. So I think he definitely fits that you have to sort of love the value um range that he's in. You know that the uh, you know, not being in the
top top tier guys. UM, he certainly does get a lot of chatter and his I think whether he has the um, you know, sort of the emotional stability to bake his way around that, you know, what can be a frustrating course might be you know, I don't have to measure that, so I just go by the numbers and I say, yeah, this guy is a guy I expect to be in the top five this year. M Okay, I'm gonna purposely leave out one of your your number one here on this and let people find that discover
that in your book. Uh. Tiger Woods obviously featured prominently in your twenty nineteen Masters preview. You tell an amazing story about Tiger and probably the how can I put this, the the stat that no one was aware of at the time you do this great research. UM. Portion of the book is is dedicated to this amazing streak that Tiger had back in the day. UM. We can describe that. But as as you point out, Tigers, the assessment of
Tiger is different from the assessment of anybody else. In other words, when you say, listen, know what at Tiger's age really ever wins the Masters typically, But Tiger is not your average golfer, So how do you and certainly has not had your average career. So you make the case that as great as we thought he was, he's even better by the numbers. How seriously do you take Tiger here? Very very do not sleep on Tiger this year? Uh And and there's a couple of reasons for that. Gil.
When I wrote the book, UM, I had a something that I called par uh performance verse average per round and it's it's supposed to be a The idea was it that that it would be a one stat you know, kind of fits all way to rank golfers. And because it's it's it's a scale versus the average PGA Tour pro And Tiger was right there in the right outside
the top ten as of eighteen. But he's actually played better in the first three months this year than the rounds that have dropped off because he didn't play too many rents. You know, he had he played less rounds than than all those top guys last year. And it doesn't feel like it the first three months of the year because he has not. You know, he hasn't been
in the featured groups on Sunday, but he has very steadily. Remember, you know, a good analytics model will look at every stroke played right and and we'll judge them all equally, not just the ones that were on TV or there. You know, it's it's better to finish twelve two tournaments in a row than to finish fourth and a missed cut, right, because you're gonna look at all the rounds together, and Tiger is playing very well. His current form is is fine.
I'm sure you know we can look at three putting. If he's gonna three putt, that's gonna be a problem. Um. But in terms of just his whole body of work, the form is fine. His course history at Augusta is unparalleled. And I and as far as you know someone his age not winning before or or you know they they tend to drop off at this age. Oh, he's dropped off.
But he's exactly if you kind of look at his aging curb, he's exactly where you'd expect the forty three year old golfer to be, who was three strokes plus better than everybody else on tour at his peak age nine now he's about a stroke and three quarter better. Um, which is you know, that's not DJ, that's not Rory, and that's not Justin. But it's right there in the next year. Uh So, yeah, because of his course history. Absolutely don't sleep on Tiger, you know, is the value
ever there in his futures almost positively? Not because of the premium. But I am going to be sappointed if Tiger is not a part of the Sunday conversation. Okay, Joe, we leave you with this little rapid fire, give me, give me ten seconds, the little little thumbnail on each of these names, brooks kepco Oh, he's not being talked about enough. I'm kind of surprised. I'm a little worried about his mental state if he's going on a diet for a swimsuit photo shoot, um and losing you know,
twenty pounds. But absolutely that is a guy that is not being talked about enough. Meziama, Yeah, say, you know, same sort of thing there. If there's any sex thing is value. I think he falls right into the Paul Casey, Decki, Manto Yama, Jason Day circle of guys that are sort of my favorite values in the futures market. M Okay and uh and finally let me think who who else can we go to? You? What what name would you
like to bring up? Uh? You know, everybody has a deep value and there and I would be fading guys like Molinari and Woodland because of of course history. Uh. The name that is most interesting to me, that is who I don't think has a chance to win, because I think we do our winner is going to come from the the the you know, what's say the forty
year underguys, forty two one or under guys. But Patrick Cantley looks a lot to me like Tommy Fleetwood and Tony fenwe did last year, guys that would never on TV for the six months prior. But you look at the body of work, you're like, holy cow, this is the top twelve, top fifteen guy who's rising. And we know what Fleetwood and Finale did in all the major's last year in terms of top tenning and constantly being
on the board. I think Patrick Cantley is your guy to you know this year that maybe you know, a lot of people probably haven't seen him take a stroke because like I said, he doesn't play on the weekends on TV. But that's a name I think that that we'll be talking about over the course of the year. All right, Felika has got to take it on, can't land. I know that for sure? From yesterday. Joe peta author of a nine Masters preview. You can follow him on Twitter at Magic rat s F Joe, good luck. I
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Link TV Skill Alexander Jeff Parls is here as well. UM. Coming up this hour Todd Wishnef from Showtimes action docuseries H the gentleman that bets here in the South Point on a day to day basis. He had the storyline with his UH friend who comes into town. Lovely young lady who sits and UH watches him bet H so interesting guy who is very smart, um and has some great stories. We can't wait to be uh to uh have him in studio because when you're around Todd, you
can't help but smile. Great guy. So he's coming up. Last thing about the NBA, which I didn't get in the last segment, I heard on a national show yesterday, national betting show there on on the Old TV yesterday that the Toronto game didn't mean anything tonight. That is incorrect. The Raptors do have something to play for tonight. Raptors are seven point favorites at Minnesota. Uh. The comment was made that the Raptors nothing to play for because they
can't catch Milwalkee. But if the Raptors win in a potential NBA Finals against the Warriors, they would have the home court advantage. So the Raptors do have something to play for tonight at Minnesota, So don't make that mistake in your handicapping tonight. Before we get to Todd Wishnev though, let us continue with our master's coverage. We love having this gentleman on UM and we've been blessed to have him on the podcast in year's pass also on this
show from does work with Betfair, with Rhoda World. He's all over the place from the UK. We have video here audio on him. Audio, But Dave Tindall, good, good afternoon, I should say to you, Dave, Yeah, afternoon here in the UK. Hi girl, how are you. I'm doing very well, David. I don't know if I have ever thanked you on air, and this is sort of harkening back to a horrible experience, but you were very kind when we had the horrible shooting here in Las Vegas, Um several falls ago, not
this past fall, but the fall before that. You were kind enough to send me an email just as a kind thing, hoping that I was okay. So I just wanted to thank you on air. That was very sweet. Of you to do so, sir, very welcome. Yes, um, let us talk about the Masters. This is something obviously. You do golf tournaments every week of the year. You analyze them. By the way, say hello please to our friend, my friend Dave Kilner, who you do a wonderful podcast
with over there at William Hill. Uh. Listen, you do a piece on trends. So I had Joe Peter on earlier this morning. You are aware of his book, Yeah, with the story. I love that book. Yeah, isn't it great. It's phenomenal that he did that all manually, put that all together. Yeah, it's incredible. We've we've mentioned it in a podcast, actually indicted it today on and I gave Joe's book a number mentions because it's it's great reading, fascinating. It's kind of a secret, isn't it that we didn't
know was there? And there it is in front of our eyes. Joe done all the work for us. Brilliant. That's right, It's wonderful. I'm glad and he'll be thrilled to know that you You mentioned that across the pond, as we like to say here. You do this amazing thing though, where you know We're just coming off the college basketball season here the United States and before the
final tournament um, which we affectionately call March Madness. I do something every year called this is the Championship formula, and every year it works. There's one exception a team got there that didn't immediately ascribed to the to the Championship formula. You do something similar for the Masters, which, of course the fact that it's the on the same course every year lends itself to this kind of exercise.
Would you go through that for us, sir? Yeah, So these are based on tenure trends that I've looked at down the years, and before I'll say this before we start that it's all very well and nice and pretty and interesting because last year it picked out Ricky Fowler who finished running up just one shot back of the of the leader, and two years before that Dustin Johnson,
who at the time was about one shot. We think DJ is going to be eight nine to one, but that year two thousand, sixteen to one, and he didn't really have much going for him. Augustus, So it has it has worked rather nicely the last couple of years. After say absolutely, yeah, So again, you know, we should put their disclaimer. You're absolutely right, not that this will guarantee you, but it is an interesting exercise to go
through for sure. Yeah, and as you say, because Astern National, where we see every year, I think the trends do work better than they might in other majors. So let's go through them. Then. So this applies to at least nine of the last ten Masters winners and sometimes all ten. So these are the factors aged under forty Sorry Tiger, sorry Phil ranked in the world's top thirty, played in at least one Masters. I think we all know that one in the fuzzies L nine stats had a top
thirty er Augustus. So you need to go there and need to have shown something at the cost before had season surprising when we'll knock out some Yeah, let me repeat that one because your audio drafted posted a top ten earlier this season. Yeah, that's right and surprising. That wouldn't knock out Tony Fee Now who's not posted one in the calendar year, So that that knocks him out, not the defending champion, so Patrick read that puts the
kibosh on him, unfortunately. And the and the one that people don't like is the not the world number one. People go that can't be right. People don't feel good about that is true? Yeah? Yeah, So in a bit of a hot potato, do you say that, do you have that phrase? And we do? We do, Yes, we have that. It's been passed, passed back and forth year. So it's landed this week. It's landed in the hands of Justin Row So that would roll him out, Oh right,
because he's he's the world number one, number one? Yeah? Does that? Does that put DJ back in play? Then? Well it doesn't because there's some more trends. Yeah, some more trends as we go down to that eliminates i would say, of the field. But then we've got some other kind of filters that I've I've put this time. Uh. Ten of the last ten had had two top fifteens that season. So again that's at all just a check on current form. This is the one that knocks other
people out. So nine of the last ten Masters winners have had the top fifteen in the stroke play event in March or April. So that's a very kind of latest them to test of way form is and someone for example, who would fail that Justin Thomas and Bryson Dish Jambo not had a top fifteen in the stroke play in March or April, so that's those two, um put away Loui us. This is a new trend. I've put in this and eliminate people pen winners had posted a win on American soil within the previous two years,
eight of ten, someone like Louis. Yeah, yeah, I had had to win within two yees, so someone like Louis Eustay and there's never one on American soil, which is crazy, but it's but it's true. Is that would that would get rid of? Yeah? It isn't it given how I mean, he's been running up in all four majors, it's when they open, but it's just never one on American soil.
So maybe it's asking a lot for him to make Augusta Nashal the scene of that first winter that rules out him, and then another one that the final one, which people again are a bit kind of really but but it's true. Is that eight of the last ten Masters winners had a starting price of twenty to one or higher, So guys under twenty two one, the stats and are not good for them. So if you if you look back, Bubba went off Um with his wins. Adam Scott, Yeah, he was over twenty one. Sergio, I
think it's about thirty five to one. So even though these these are quality of players I'm I'm telling you about, they at the time of their master's Wednesday will learn. So it's another I mean, we've already said Justin Rostum has gone because of world number one. He would go via that start. The only exceptions McElroy, Yeah, I think the only exceptions over the last eleven years Jordan's speed
and Mickelson were shorter than Yes, that's right. So it's an ideally we want ten out of ten, but eight out of ten is still quite strong, I think. All right, So where does that bring us? Dave? Yeah, it brings us to one manner. When I start start doing these things, I genuinely have no idea how they're going to work out, and some well I think we lost Dave right there for good, and then it's going to okay, yeah, we
got your back, Go ahead, Dave, go ahead. Yeah. Sometimes I do all this work and I think, at the end all that work, it's going why did I even bother? But this time it come out with the players around thirty five to one, and the man is hid Dickie Mattsi Yama. Yeah, I didn't see that one coming either. Yeah, did Ricky Fowler get in there at all? Day? Very very very close for Ricky Fowler, he needed to have a um A top thirty in Texas last week and he did. The only border line kind of factor for
him is whether he's under twenty two one. I don't know what he is in Vegas, but he is. He twenties in Vegas, he's yeah, So that knocks him out on that, and I think all but one book he has him under twenty two one in the UK as well, So I've kind of gone with well, that's you know, that's the majority. So Ricky's close, but he is the only one who fits them you if you run through so his kind of stats. So he's twenty seven years old, which is good in the top thirty in the world.
He's played in seven Masters already. UM he's got a fifth, the seventh and eleventh, nineteenth last year. He said four top fifteens this season, was third at the Farmer's Insurance tie dates at Sawgrass on his last stroke play start, and he's one on American soil in the last two years. People might have forgotten that one. He won the w GC Bridge Stone in two thousand and seventeen. So ticks
every box. Skill takes every box. Yeah. For those who don't like the strokes gained analysis, there's a way to look at it, sort of a sort of a a trend narrowing version of a championship formula hit Dicky Matiyama. So in the end day when we're talking to Dave Tindle, you can follow him on Twitter at David Tindle Golf. You spelled Tindal t I N d A l L A great follow by the way, for everybody. I made five bets m my plan on betting head heads and tap five stap ten s tap to one. He is
that kind of thing. But into of the futures, Marting, I did make five better and I made them some time ago, and one of them is a Decki Marty Yah. Yeah, who did you end up in in the in the end, I'm sure you paid attention to this, but who did you end up bagging in when all is said and done. Yeah, So I have gone with the trend. So I batted Deckie as well, because you know, if if he won, and I don't know what work. And then I hadn't put any money on, would be um, you know, banging
myself in the head for a few days. But I've got John Ram, John Ram. Yeah, he very clear. He takes all a lot of those boxes as well. Um, I think it's just because he's under twenty two one that would be his only kind of cross in that box. And I do like Bubba. I think Bubba's yeah, it's got some um, some great sass. And and and I think
Joe's book was helped me get with Bubba. Have to say, because in Joe's book it said he strokes gained off the tea and last year's Masters, Bubba was a mild Yeah, strokes both inaccuracy end distance, right, like he was great in both. But you know that's crazy. Joe's take on that is he won't be able to duplicate that. That's Joe's sort of approach to Bubba. Yeah, but I'm with you, like he's he's a guy I didn't bet on, But he's the one regret I might have not betting, right,
that's in the back of my mind. So right, yeah, I can see what Joe's saying. But if you look on this year's strokes going off the tea rankins Bubb's second and that, so it's you know, even though yes, it will be hard to do what he did last year, the way he's played this year, then he's hitting it well enough to you know, possibly get close to that.
So if you're playing that far down the fairway and in the fairway, yeah, I think Bubba's only got to play reasonably well in other aspects of his games to be right there. Yeah, no, I I get it, believe me, I do. I'm I'm sort of your mind as well. Um So matsu Yama and Bubba for you one more who you might have been on and M and Ram Yeah, I'm on Rom for sure. I'm on Ram in my five, Matso Yama, Ram Kepka for me Justin Rose was one of mine, and who was my fifth now it's just
blanking oh Fee now is my fifth. So hopefully one of those gets there. Dave, we're having we're having a bit of y am. I also I'm sorry, go ahead, hello, yeah, go ahead, yeah. Day on the other one I thought was was good value was Batt Coucher. Uh okay, Dave, we're having a bit of audio problem, so I'm gonna let you go, but I appreciate it. We got the crux of all of that, so I thank you. UM, and again, Uh, I appreciate you making the time. Will you be on Long Shots with Brady tomorrow? You coming
back on that show? Yes, that's right, Yes, perfect, Okay, So Long Shots with Brady Cannon, Matt humans West Reynolds tomorrow, five pm Pacific, a p m. Eastern, Dave. Hopefully the audio connection will be a little better and Dave will be able to talk beyond what he did today on the show. Thank you, Dave, appreciated man, and I think we might have lost Dave for good there. Thank you so much, Dave. I'll i'll hit him back on on
the old Twitter machine and we'll get to him. UM. Sorry about the audio there, but I think we got the crux of it. It narrowed down to matsu Yama based on all his criteria. UM, and matsu Yama, you can still get it about thirty five to one. I think I headed in to the masters when you go through all those By the way, your dad Jeff guests when he heard that we were going to go through this exercise, he guessed that it would be which golfer
or golfers Fleetwood and Fleetwood and Kisner. Not the correct answer here from the Dave Tindall exercise. But when I was hanging out with Jay Rude, the vice president of Racing Sports at MGM Resorts International, yesterday, the two biggest liabilities he has in the futures market happened to be those two golfers, Kissner and Fleetwood. So he did get the answer correct to that question, just not this one. Coming back Todd Wishnev from the Showtime Action docuseries Action
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