Check it down Man, Now down Man, Thursday morning, February it is. It is the Beating the Book podcast megapod It is our final football season podcast, super Bowl fifty
five megapod um. Yes, the game side, the total, you know, there's that, but really mainly your favorite props as well for all of us on the show today for Super Bowl fifty five has always joined here live at the D are wonderful hosts all season long by Derek Stevens, Conciliary Vice President Operations at Circuit Sports, Michael Palm, also the co host of The Nuts. Very exciting times, very very exciting. We're finding our way in the wilderness. But thank you gall a great season again and we got
to be here at Bar Canada. We did we read the Great Benefits of I Heart and so I mean it's win win all around. I mean, what's what's there not to like? Ye? By the way, can I just say we have loved coming to the D. It is honestly, I did a podcast for nine years before this where I had to edit everything meticulously, So for me personally being able to do this live is like a dream come true. So thank you. We love having We're never leaving but that's okay, Okay, that's all right. You guys
can go over to circle. We're just gonna be here anyhow. I'm here more than I'm there. I love this table. Well, this is like this was built before we ever heard of COVID, but it's was built for COVID. I mean, it's the perfectly social distance place. And then the table is shaped like Captain America's shield or Iron Man shield or something. Maybe Todd wish it from his mom's cork
addic somewhere in uh Pardner in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Todd wishing that the subject of Bill Crackenburger and I roasting him this morning on a numbers game. How you doing, Dotty? I'm doing great. I cannot wait for the big college basketball matchups on Sunday. Is there another game as well? There is there's a football game yet to be played. I've just heard uh and uh. We've always we said during the post season, we just want the all stars from the regular season back. This is my old friend.
He's an all star not only in sports betting, but in my heart. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr Bob Stole from Colorado, how are you doing Bobby, you completely Gil, Well, thank you. I appreciate that I'm doing well. Actually, um an epic NFL season. As you know, you get to play out of variability in that seven is so once in a once in a lifetime sort of season nine, and you did not participate in any season long handicapping contest. Right,
I did win my pool among my friends. There you go, not exactly what I was referring to, but you want your pool among your friends hauled in. I don't know even that anybody paid me eleven United States dollars if your friend spay you. What was the winning numb ruining record for Circle millions? Do you remember it was? It was like, yeah, it came in. No, not seven was sixty seven. The change sixty seven and change was the percentage. So, Bob, basically what we're saying is you would have been vying
for the top spot. Perhaps, yes, perhaps, but yeah you would have to play five a week, yes, totals, So yeah, that's true. You got Yeah, but then you know I had to throw in some some other plays and he knows how those would have gone. But my other pool I was pent. I think end of the season, I had to pick ten games a week. Ouch. Wow, all right, well, it's just either way, it's an epic season. Maybe you wouldn't have competed in circle because the format is specific,
but an epic epic season. Um, and your basketball seasons have gotten off to an okay star Yeah, okay, the the opinions have done better than the best bets and seven and fourteen on close games, you know, decide about less than three points, so I have a little bit of negative luck in there, but overall best bets are pent. The opinions are are better than that fifty five or
fifty six percent. Overall the models doing okay. The luck on close games is sort of dragged me down a little bit, but still some season less I expect to be profitable by the end of the year. Right, better on the opinions, you should be more opinionated then, Bob, I suppose so, since it's been a topsy turvy year in college I was basketball. But then again I won more close games and I lost in the NFL, and the opinions didn't do as well as the best bets.
That works out? Okay, all right, guys, Because people are waiting for props, let's talk about just super Bowl fifty five. The game line itself, the money line, the total to see if we have any bets there. Kansas City right now as we do this Thursday morning, three point favorites over the Buccaneers extra a juice. There have been some three and a half that pop up. They have quickly gone back to three. Don't know where this is going
to be by the end. The total moved a bit yesterday, about a half a point or even a point in some spots. Even so fifty five and a half pop pop up in some spots off shore, and I guess it was because there was more of a percentage chance of thunderstorms. And as as we talked about a lot rain go ahead, well there was and rain, Matt. If it's full on rain the entire game that worth three points um and there was I think that the percentage
went up to in the mid thirties yesterday. Now it's back down into the high teams a chance of rain. So maybe that's why the total pop back up fifty six. It looks like the probability of rain is becoming less, yes, but you know that could change. It's weather and winds. It's weather. Whether I don't know if if anybody knows this not an exact science predicting weather, it matters more and there but six seven mile winds expected solf Uh, it might as well be zero if it's going to
be that. Uh. Did you play anything on the total or the spread or the money line? Did you do anything with the Big three? Bob uh No? I have a lean with Tampa Bay, but no personal bets, no recommended bets. Okay um. I will tell you that I had Chiefs futures. I forgot that I had Chiefs futures. At the end of the Chiefs Bills game. I quickly raced the bet Kansas City minus three. I'm like, why I do that I have Chiefs futures? Uh. I am waiting though, for what I typically do in the Super Bowl.
The public, for whatever reason, bets dogs during the Super Bowl differently than they do dogs in the regular season. Regular season, they take them with the points. I don't know if it's because it's the last Hurrah, whatever, but they tend to play the dog on the money line, which artificially will mute the favorite on the money line.
For instance, New England against Atlanta some years ago. Three years ago, you even got New England in the minus one forties as a three three and a half point favorite. I don't know that Kansas City will go this far down. Who knows if they'll even go down to minus one fifty or minus one five. But I'm also looking to wait for that. So you did bet the Chiefs did forgetting you had the futures? Yes, like an idiots, only futures were Super Bowl, not a f C. I had
a f C two. Yeah, yeah, I did in November, late November. What what was your number on Super Bowl? Plus two forty something? I believe, let me check that. Actually, I'll tell you exactly what it wants. Got some interesting end game opportunities with Tampa. Then what did you? Did you do anything within? I laid three minus one fifteen. Um, I was minus one nineteen. Yeah, three minus one fifteen is what I laid. I liked the Chiefs in this matchup, not a lot. It's not a big bet. I just think, boy,
it's this is a historically good offense. And can you compare? And I can ask Dr Bob this question. Can you compare the Buccaneers defensive this year to the forty Niners defensive last year? I mean when you think about that Super Bowl, the forty niners, even they held the Chiefs to ten points through three quarters, right, And I mean it's similar. There's our strong defensive line. They don't need
to blitz. The first meeting. They only blitz eighteen percent of the time in Tampa Bay normally a blitzing team in the high thirties and and blitz rate. They didn't blitz them much in the first matchup. I don't think they're gonna blitz them much here in Kansas City's offensive line is worse now without Fisher. They move the right tackle over to take the left tackle, but the backup right tackle we've guts playing right tackle now is not good. Um,
So you know there dot to have a good game. UM. I think they're gonna be able to get pressure on them just with the four man front, so they don't need to blitz a lot. Um. If you want to talk more about the matchup, I think the biggest difference between this game in the Week twelve game is that Carlton Davis had the guard iree kill in the first game. And Carlton Davis is a very good just not a fast cornerback. Uh. He has you know, I'm out of
four or five at the combine. You know, when he came out of college at which is slower than average for a NFL defensive you know, for a cornerback, he had no chance of keeping up with Tyreek Hill in that first matchup. Remember Jamale Dean was out of that game, and Jamal Dean has eleaked speed or three in a very good corner So there's no way. I just can't imagine they're gonna have Davis on Tyreek killing. I remember Tyreek Hill had over twound receiving yards in the first
half of that game. Then no one who can keep up with his speed. Well, now they have Jamal Dean, who was one of the fastest corners in the league, in a very good cornerback. He'll be probably taking Tyreek hille and I'll have you know, over the top help because they won't have to blitz as much with the you know, Can City's offensive line problems. But I think it's a totally different matchup. I don't think he'll's gonna go nuts. Um uh, half a baby's got you know,
they're good at defending tight ends. Um, So Kelsey might be held in check a little bit now they have a good slot corner. I think that the matchup is completely different this time. The fact that Hans City only won that game by three first time around. I think the matchups this time around favorite Tampa Bay a little bit more. Kansas City way up at that game and then they ended up winning by three. Yeah, they were
untill that's part of it. I mean they might have kept the down had, you know, had they not been up seventeen to nothing early, So who knows what would have happened. And um but I do think the matchup I think that Jamal Dean, that's a huge difference. There's no way Davis is going to be on the hill again. Bowls is not gonna stud enough to do that again. Um So I think it's a It's something that's not even time watching Get Up every morning. No one's talked
about it. They're just talking about how Carlton, how how he got toasted the first time by by He's not even be on him this time. I can't imagine that they wouldn't have Dean on the hill. So completely different matchup. Excellent point, great points, Yeah, great, great points. Are you excited about this year's Super Bowl? And I asked us, till all three of you yes, I mean, you know, ready for the game to be played, quite frankly excited by the matchup. Yes, yes, yeah, you excited to watch
it and gilmos. In the past, my excitement came from hosting a very good Super Bowl party with many people, uh from the Bay from San Francisco in my little apartment and food flowing Margarita's the bartending. In the past, I spent most my time mixing drinks and didn't really get to watch the game as intently as I do now, being a father of two little ones living in the Denver area with no Super Bowl parties, so I'm looking forward to watching the game as opposed to posting the game.
Some of us met our girlfriends at Dr Bob super Bowl parties, that kind of thing, that's true legacy. So you had Gil showed up, just just sitting up, just standing ending in one corner. The single ladies were at the bar near me, and after the party was over, I got word that one of them was interested in meeting Gil. It was not Gil's girlfriend, Yeah it was. It was Gil's girlfriend's friend, and girls like, oh, not really interested in her, but who's her? Friend one passing
information on and there was a mutual interest. Uh, this is what seven years ago? This was like Seattle. Yeah, yeah, back when I was young and pretty much that's the first year my wife made our Super Bowl party. That's right. I bet a nickel on the Chief's MINDUS three minus plus two on November. That's very nice. Thank you very much, Todd. Do you have anything on this game? Yeah, I I
actually think it's the well. First, I don't really love doing the props because I feel like, and I feel this way in all NFL games for that matter, when you're doing props, you're kind of taking a side in a sense, because you've got to come up with what you think is going to happen in the game. Yeah, I would miss much rather play in game where I feel like you have the better chance in in anything, um in NFL, you know, related stuff. So I'm just
probably gonna play this like a regular game. But I I don't I don't think this is really going to be necessarily a close game. The last time these two teams played, it was not a close game. Is completely not indicative of what the score was. It was seventeen nothing. Early. I went back and looked because I remember the game pretty well. The first six out of seven Chiefs drives ended in either points or a long drive in a fumble. So it was the same as every other Kansas City game.
When they're trying in the beginning, you know they're going to just do whatever they want. I don't care who's guarding who. I don't care about Tyreek Hill or whoever. I mean not to say that that's not a good analysis, Dr Bob. They just have too much weapons. They just have too many weapons, So I don't care who's guarding who. You can go get the All Star team and try to guard them. You can't guard this team. This team is impossible. They can score whenever they want. Look at
the Bills game, it was exactly the same scenario. Remember a couple of weeks ago we talked about this. I said the Kansas City could have won that game by a hundred if they wanted to. And what did they do in the playoff game? Same thing. I really think Tampa Bay if you look at their games, they didn't play well at all in the last nine weeks. They lost to the Rams, lost to Kansas City, Minnesota. They beat because the Minnesota guy missed about a hundred field goals.
The Atlanta game, they were down by seventeen, came back in one. Okay, they killed Detroit. Everyone does that. Who cares? The next Atlanta game was closed for a little while. Tyler Henneck or Taylor Henneck scored twenty three on them. New Orleans had no business losing the game. The guy fumbles at the fifty yard line. Otherwise New Orleans wins that game. Green Bay could have won the game. Now, I'll give him credit. They did a great job on
defense against Green Bay. But Tom Brady's throwing interceptions like it's going out of style here. You better play a perfect damn game if you're gonna beat the Kansas ce Chiefs. I don't see that having it in him. I don't like to bet pregame, but if I was gonna bet pregame Kansas City minus three, I mean, this is ridiculous to me. I I just don't see it. I think Tampa Bay is a slightly above average I mean slightly above above average team. I don't think there are anything special.
And to compare them to San Francisco of last year, San Francisco defense were monsters last year. This Tampa Bay defense is not Taylor Henneck was moving all over them. Taylor Henneck or where maybe I'm not even saying his name right, whatever, what about Taylor Heineke. How do you do that guy? That guy was going all over this defense. So give me a break. Andy Reid will figure out how to block the damn guys. I know there's the left tackles at it. It's a disaster. The world is ending,
the left tackles out. No, Andy Reid will figure it out. Kansas City chiefs three dr Kansas City's one and one when Fish is playing in three and three when he's not. Now, that's obviously a small circle. But I mean the left tackles were point eight points and in the analysis done. Um so yeah, it's not the end of the world. Um, But you know you're making the case of well, Tampa Bay could have lost that game, and they could have
lost that game. Said that every week about Kansas City in the second half of the season could have lost that every game was closed, They could have lost a lot. Again, you can't play that could have lost for Tampa Bay and not play the same game for Kansas City. But I'm gonna I'm gonna respectfully disagree with you because the Kansas City games they were toying with people. They never were really endangered. That was playing with people. I don't
think I don't think that's true with people. Well, can I chime in Kansas City? Can I? Can I chime in here? Because Aaron shots Uh, the creator of Football Outsiders, was on this podcast right after Week fourteen, in the
middle of December. We had him on We're in the Fourth Square, and I had the audacity to say again, it was right after the Miami game where Kansas City ended up winning, I think by three or four points, but they outscored Miami thirty to three and the second and third quarter, and I said, famous lead to Aaron, you know, it's like they just have a on off switch. And Aaron immediately admonished me and said, you're just saying that because it's Kansas City. If it were any other team,
he wouldn't make that subjective comment. And I acknowledge at the time that there was some subjectivity to it. But I had an air it on yesterday on a Numbers game on Visa and the very first thing I asked and I played that video of us from several weeks ago, and I said, what do you think now, and he said, it's funny you bring that up. He actually did some analysis on that, and he has been convinced. He's like,
two things would happen if that were true. One that they would all of a sudden play really badly when they were way ahead, and two they would step it
up during the postseason. And actually, by his but by his numbers, he was like, actually, both of those things happened, and he went back to every Kansas City lead where they just absolutely just like miserably stopped playing football on both sides of the ball, and in the playoffs, by his dv Oway, by his by his preparatory stats, he really feels they have played some of their best games.
So I mean to Todd's points, First, Tampa Bay, know what the yards per play was in the first Tampa Bay Kansas City game, seven point six to seven point five. So the stats people will tell you, oh, this was a close game. It was not a close game. It wasn't even it was It was the exact Kansas City replica of every game this year. They get way ahead, they start messing around and just running the ball and not trying anymore the way they would be trying if
it was a close game. So, in my opinion, you had there's so much garbage and sit in Kansas City statistics that it can ruin models. In my opinion, they're they're the most susceptible to model ruining. And the first Tampa Bay game was a perfect example of that game. There was there was no chance Tom Brady could win that game. It was a joke that game. D v O A to your to your side of things, Bob. Though Aaron has had Tampa Bay rated much higher than
most all year long. Um, so you know he's by the way, he's on Tampa Bay plus three and a half himself in this game. But anyway, I just wanted to point out because that's an interesting discussion where Aaron, even Aaron within a there too, he's sort of like he's like, yo, I might have been wrong about that. So, by the way the model that our model here uses, it weighs stats is played by play. Matrics only actually
get from the play that play did it. But it weighs the stats in competitive parts of the game more than it does in less competitive parts. Are in the fourth quarter when the game's out of reach, so it's it's factored out a lot of that garbage time stuff. So Kansas City is the top rated team in my model too, and it's part of that is because we factors out a lot of those, you know, the garbage time stuff. But not every close game was was a big lead where they you know, gave up points late.
A lot of those they came from behind to win, and they're still the best team in the league. I'm not arguing I think Tampa Bay is better than Yeah, well obviously, I think the oddsmakers are given them credit only three point un at all. You know, I think, you know, the fair line is probably two point six based on the math I'm doing. So it's not like it's a ridiculous you know, like I'm jumping all over Tampa Bay here. I'm not. I just I just lean
with Tampa Bay. I think the matchups are pretty favorable, and the model leans with Tampa Bay. So so calm down, you know, Bob one second, Bob can be right and I can also be right just because Bob, just because Bob in this particular scenario, look, his stats will will work out for him. As you can hear by his record in this year's NFL, his statistical modeling is obviously good enough to be winning. It doesn't mean he's going to be right in every scenario. That's you know, That's
all I'm saying. And I think we can all agree on that. What do you say that, Bob, No one is you have a you have a you know, at chance to be right in this case. That's right. But I will take I will take exception with the fact that I do believe Kansas City. While the game's looked close in a lot of scenarios, you can go through all the games and you can see that there was something going on with the exception of the Atlanta Falcons game, I'll give you that one. But New Orleans was thirty
twenty nine. That was not a close game. The Miami game was thirty three, twenty seven, not a close game. Denver game before that sixteen, not a close game. Tampa Bay game we already talked about, not a close game. Vegas thirty five thirty one. Vegas was actually giving them a little bit of trouble that game. Uh you know, I mean, you can go back through all these games. The Buffalo first game, people say, oh, it's only seventeen. No, it wasn't. They could have won that game by a
thousand if they wanted so. To me, I think of all the teams, you know, I just think that Kansas City is gonna be the hardest to clean up statistical models than any than almost any team. And I'm sure that guys know how to do statistical modeling, like Dr Bob know how to do it, but there's probably a lot of people that have models that do not know
how to clean up the dirtiness. You know, like to remember the Cleveland Pittsburgh playoff game where Ben Roethlisberger throws for five and fifty yards and everyone probably he has some semblance of that in their model. Well guess what that all that can be thrown away in the garbage. Because Cleveland was letting them do whatever they wanted with the gigantic lead, you could throw out all of it. In my opinion, had the game been ten seven, game
would have been a completely different game. So, you know, no, let me just say go ahead. You know, I understand, you know, Kansas City has a switch. I believe that. I believe they played better when they need to play better. You know who also plays better when he needs to
play better. Tom Brady from minus two Underdog in his career as a as a as a quarterback room so competitive games minus two to Underdog's twenty five straight up fifty and twenty against his breath eight and three in the playoffs two and I was a dog pick in the Super Bowl. I mean, he can turn it on when he needs to to. I mean, you're making a case from malls. Rightfully, did you think they were did you think they should have won the Saints game? They
won the Saints game. There's a lot of games that should not have won. Okay, but what I'm saying is if you played that game like a hundred times, would you say that they were on the more fortunate side? They were probably around thirty eight times the wins. Okay, they're in the Super Bowl now, Okay, I mean I'm not you can't go. Obviously, Kansas City is a better team than Tampa Bay, and Tampa Bay's season could have easily gone a different way had they not won a
couple of close games. But they're here, and that's the metrics I'm using say it's gonna be you know, due to three point game. I mean Obviously there's a lot of variants in that, but I think the line is shading a little bit higher than it should. I think three solid three should be the number I think. I think it's an awesome discussion. Mikey and I are enjoying listen to It's for Real because it's todd I really I get back to what you what you said there.
We this is a very difficult team when you look at them to more more than perhaps any other team. I don't know, we'll see maybe historically we'll look back on and think this, this version of the Kansas City Chiefs might be the dirtiest statistical team ever. To put it that way, it's very difficult. And again I love that Aaron was able to sort of go back on his because he was so he had such strong conviction on you can't say that everybody's saying that about the Chiefs.
And and when he went back and looked at he's like, wow, no, off the charts change of behavior for this team in an anomalous kind of way, not nor you know, not the normal letdown kind of team. So anyway, it's an interesting conversation, and one game is not going to decide the answer of it. Um, but it's a fascinating discussion. I think, um, let's do some props. Otherwise we'll be here all day on this. Bob you get, you get honors, your honor. Uh you kind last year I was on here,
I was on your show. Maybe hit them all, hit them all. I'm your good luck boy, I'm your good luck. I'll props and twenty two and five and I'm rolling with four of them. Um, I'm going with Patrick Mahomes over and acted twenty one and a half is kind of a consensus. It might have moved. I released it two clients about an hour and a half ago, hour ago. Um, here's the thinking on the Patrick Mahomes over twenty one and a half rushing yards up to twenty five and
a half. So anything and a half or less I would I would bet on the over on my homes rushing yards. Um. You might remember last year he had forty something and then he took three kneel down for fifty yards to go under what he needed to. And this year, I think he's gonna need to run more. I mean I think that Tampa Bay is gonna be able to put pressure on him. Uh, they're gonna I don't think they're gonna blitz as much. They're gonna have more men and coverage, so his receivers are likely to
be covered a little bit more than normal. And with him running around looking for guys with all the defensive backs back there, I think he's gonna take off and run more than he normally does. Um, so I'm gonna go over mahomes rushing yards is my first prop o. I'm with Bob on that one. I like. I like that one a lot with Bob half census, and I'd say the twenty five and a half is still good.
That Todd is like, I think there's gonna be I think there's gonna be a lot of a lot of if there's more pressure on my homes, which they're they're very well, maybe I I totally agree with that. You I could see my homes getting a bunch of like nine yard scrambles where he's like in trouble and he somehow gets out of it like he always does and gets nine yards for the first down. So I like that one a lot. Todd is the Darren Ravel of this podcast. He's like confirmed, I like that, but please don't,
please don't compare me with Darren Ravell. Please, you know just you can. You can make a lot of jokes, but that that is not called for. Have I told my Darren Ravell story you're on the show? I think tell it again nine years ago, ten years ago, when I was a little pitcher and nobody knew who I was. They still know who I am, but then they really didn't know who I was. I there's something to happen with a running back, and on Twitter, not even clever.
I wrote, Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be running backs. Not funny, not clever, just a stupid throwaway line. Ten minutes later on Twitter, Darren Orbell Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be running back. He's a predecessor to Ben Fox. About the people that tweeted at Ben Fox, there is aet tweet button likes to be on one of the pregame shows. Norm something Hitch his sur who was the guy used to be on one of the pregame shows years ago, like in
the nineties. I us to post a newsletter and I'd have all these great stats and and things, and then he just would quote them verbatim. I had clients, like, even, like, this guy's stealing your stuff and I didn't get up that early to watch some game shown. Was it pe Dockstown? No, that wasn't it was norm something norm Yeah nor h I t z G. Yes, Yeah, you were just I mean, like blatant stealing of the stuff I'd have in my
newsletter stats that I have published in my newsletter. People and me and Gil came up being Gil had a whole segment on me, and Gil had a whole segment on a numbers game. And then uh, and then some guy I know who goes on fall and show, you know, basically renamed it no hyper Bowl and did the same exact segment. It's it's very very disconcerted. The gentile version. Yes, what is it? Sincereus form of flattery? Yeah, imitation is the sincereous form of flattery. That's what I always say.
I happen to like that guy, and I'd buy him popcorn all the time. So it's not the end of the world. But you know, I think I was doing it subconsciously. Maybe, Um, Mike, mikey. Before we get to your favorite prop here, this is from my buddy Jason wein Garden, who is always on a numbers game with me from under a cloud of smoke in southern California. He reminded me of that. He told me about this yesterday. I forgot pretty or seven. Jason con just reminded me,
but he actually texts. He actually tweeted this out. He said, yesterday, I wanted to bet Vita Vella to score in any time touchdown and nobody had it listed. So I asked Circus Sports to make a line within fifteen to twenty minutes. It was posted for betting. A couple other books responded and said they couldn't do it, most ignored the request. This is to say that Circus Sports is the gold standard of legal US sports books, and other books could learn a thing or three from them. That's very nice.
How about that we do that. We do that, We take suggestions and then they make it. They move the market. Obviously, if he post him right, that that affects everybody else that you have listed to score the first touchdown. So it's a compliments to Metcalf and Chris Bennett just coming up with these squares and coming up with four hundred different markets on these different numbers. Is we've written more now already this year than we did last year on
the squares. Right on the squares the research Mike like, which numbers come out the most uh common? I assume researched it, and then and then you have to factor in who the two teams are, right and with the toe it is as a factor in that. And but people bet the odd numbers because they want a big payout. Last year was all common numbers seven zero, seven three.
And we when we when we held like seventy of the pool because people are betting the five, five and the eight too, and all the four yeah, because they want five thousand to one thousand and one all that stuff. Favorite props are I like Kansas City to score over one and a half touchdowns in the first half. I laid one your reasoning, Well, look at there's gonna be six probably seven possessions in the first half. Is Tampa
Bay gonna stop my homes five times from scoring? To I just I'm with Todd about how good this offense is. I think they just score when they want to score. I mean, and not that not that they don't so, but they're just so good. They don't waste any places. They don't run into the middle of the line, you know what I mean. They just they're always getting there the ball to guys in space where they can make plays.
And I just think it's real tough unless this this line move and missing the left tackle and then they can get a lot of pressure with four guys and really disrupt him. It's hard. Either either they drop a ball or they get sacked on third down. Those are
the only ways they don't score on these drives. And in the first half of games, Read is more aggressive on the fourth and short when he has the lead and he starts kicking field goals in the second half, but in early in games he's trying to score touchdowns and build the lead. So I thought that was good point there. In the first game, the first half, they threw the ball of their plays yea. In the first half against Tampa Bay the first time. I mean, and
they're not gonna try to run. Tampuy has got a good run defense, one of the best. But I'm not gonna bother Dr Bob bringing it. Yeah, that's why he's on the super Bowl edition. That's why he's on the super Bowl Edition. First half of the first meeting, My this is all I memorize this stuff for you. You know that's right. But are you wearing contacts though? Bob tell the truth. I just I just want to look pretty and you do and you do. Um my wife
shaved too. I have Tom Brady over a half a yard rushing Thomas Brady over zero point five yards rushing. Now this correlates as well with my game bets on the Kansas City Chiefs because I do not believe that Tom Brady will be kneeled down late in the game, and so therefore I can't run into if I believe that the Tom Brady will lose yardage kneeling down. What is your back? Tom Brady over half a yard rushing? Now I have a bet, but it's it's will he
have any rush that's positive yardage? So it's not total rushing yards, it's will he have a positive rush? And I laid one that's the quarterback sneak. He is the greatest. Yes, that was so. My explanation was just that it's the greatest quarterback sneaker of all time. Third and one fourth and one doorstep of the end zone. Tom Brady will sneak at some point, and especially because Tampa Bay after seeing Sean mcderbott not be aggressive last week if there
was any doubt. How you play the Chiefs, you've got to be aggressive. So if there are fourth and once, they'll be more inclined to go for it. And Brady's there and again correlating with my Kansas City conviction on the game line, Therefore, I won't be worried about the Tom Brady kneel downs to take yardage away. Tom Brady over half a yard rushing Todd, do you endorse it? Yeah?
The only The only thing I would say is I have noticed this year, and I don't have the stats to back it up, but I have noticed he doesn't sneak as much as he used to do on the Patriots. And the Patriots used to sneak like every five seconds. It was like a sneak for a first down. I've noticed it's not as often on Tampa Bay, but I'm sure I could still happens. Well, he's he's he's ninety seven years old now and he's still he still sneaks it more than Big Ben or Rivers. No those guys
sneak anymore at all. Tom Brady still sneaking at forty three years old. Uh, Todd, you don't have any right. Well, I mean, I'm just I don't really like to play these, But if I was gonna play one of them, I'd probably play tom Brady over a half of interception minus
one ninety. I just think that there's I've seen too many Tom Brady games this year where he throws these dying duck quil passes out there and somebody drops it in, you know, and last week they were all catching them, obviously, so he threw all those or two weeks ago, he threw all those interceptions. But he throws a lot more interceptions than tom Brady Vintage New England used to throw. Tom Brady tom Brady Vintage New England didn't throw you know,
a million balls that could have easily been intercepted. And I just noticed it a lot more. Now. Kansas City is not exactly the most um you know, uh, greatest secondary to to do this, but I just feel like if they get behind by too much, you know, he's gonna he gets rushed or something, he gets jostled a little bit. He seems to throw balls that are just not tom Brady esque. I would say, let's say he's before he threw five percent balls. There weren't Tom Brady
this year. It's like se of Todd. Don't you think that you know, and he's still playing at a high level, but don't you think there's some throws now he's more Philip Rivers than Tom Brady. Short arms these balls and just lofts them out there like he never used to do. Did that last week a couple of times. That's why I say his his tom his non tom Brady esque throws are up to like, it's a lot more. It's a lot more non Tom Brady yes throws and you just didn't look. I'm not saying the guy's not great.
He's the greatest of all time. In my opinion. He's a fantasy. He's even a good quarterback. Now. I just think that he's not the old Tom. I remember the old Tom Brady. The old Tom Brady was throwing darts and it would take a guy's head off. It would hit him right in the middle of the numbers every single time. It's not the same Tom Brady this year. But I'm not saying he's not good. By the way, it's that I don't have a bet on the total. But it's why I would not bet an under on
this game. I would only bet the over because I think, just on what you're talking about, Todd, I think we will see a short field or two in this game, and short fields are the death of unders, and so I would I wouldn't. I can very easily see that happening. While interceptions were fortuitous in terms of field field position last week, um, you know deep in Green Bay territory, you can't always count on that. So yeah, for me,
it would be on the total. Not that I bet it, by the way, full disclosure, but it would be Do you agree that? Do you and Dr Bob agree that his throws this year do like if you put them up against his old Tom Brady, not last year tom Brady. I'm talking about like two, three, four or five years ago tom Brady, it doesn't look the same. Well, the
I do. I agree with that anecdotally. The pick that we saw, particularly the one that was intended for I guess intended in quotes for Evans last week at Green Bay was you know it was like no, no, no, no, no, not the tipped one, not the one over the middle where it went off Evans hands. But I'm talking about just like sort of the he just sort of figured Evans would would go under it and you know, on
the outside. And I remember thinking remarking to myself or at least thinking about him, like, I don't see tom Brady doing that, Like he's not usually the one that that chucks that up and then hopes the receiver figures it out. You know that, Dr Bob? Do you agree with that? Also, I haven't watched enough Tampa Bay games.
I watched the Red Zone channel while I'm working on college football, the you know, the next week's college football song show to glancing, So I'm not really watching enough Tampa based specific games to They're not showing a lot of Tom Brady's ducks on the Red Zone channel, probably showing more touchdowns than than bad plays. Do your stats?
Do your stats say that he's a different quarterback now? Well, what's different is he's among the lead leaders, have not the league leader in average air yards per throw, So he's thrown it down the field a lot more than he did with New England, especially in recent years. Who's gonna have more interceptions? But given that he's leading the league or near the top of the league in average air yards per throw, his interception rate is relatively low.
But because he's taking more chances down the field, he's gonna Yeah, he's not the same Tom Brady where he's gonna have five interceptions year. I mean, he's gonna throw more interceptions as they'll throwing the ball down filmore so. But do you take into account that now he's got like an all star team of receivers versus New England where he was doing all that amazing magical stuff with guys like Julian Edelman and like just garbage receivers except
for when he had Randy Moss. He had did not have good receivers, and and now he's playing with this Tampa. That's why I feel like it's been disguised at because of that, he's taking more rest because he's got better receivers also among among the league leaders, and getting rid of the ball quickest still Tom Brady this year in Tampa. Um, Bob, you have a you have a few more. What's the
number two? Well, you know, speaking of getting rid of the ball quickly, Um, the Buccaneers defense to record the first stack of the game is Mayas on ish Um. I think up to Mayas one fifty is a good bet that the Bucks will get the first stack. I already mentioned that Kansas City in the first meeting through the ball eight three percent of the time in the
first half. Why why change that up? I expect something similar. Uh. Tampa Bay tends to run the ball on first intense their seventh in the league and first and ten run rate, so they tend to be more conservative, especially early in the game. Um, and I've already mentioned Kansas City's offensive line problems, So I just think there's gonna be more pressure on my homes than normal. Uh. Tampa Bay's saturated
six point nine percent, which is high. Mahomes was only sacked three point four percent of the time, but like I said, most of them was with a healthy offensive line. Um, Brady gets rid of the ball quick, like you said. That was one of my points. So I think Tampa Hanpason is gonna throw the ball more often early in the game, I think than Tampa Bay will. And because that's part of the reason, I think the Buccaneers will record the first defensive sack. So that's a prop there.
I like that, Mikey. Uh, those were the only two. I bet. What was your second was the Brady will have a rushing attempt a positive yard and over one and a half Chiefs touchdowns in the first half. That's that's it. Okay, um my number two is Travis Kelsey anytime touchdown minus one se Travis Kelsey anytime touchdown minus one seventy five A lot to lay. Bob made a point about Tampa Bay's uh defense covering tight ends pretty well. This is one of these bets where I'm just sort
of like a bet, I'm willing to lose. You can beat me on this tip of the captains, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they're still gooda when they get close, they're still gonna look for Kelsey. Then yeah, maybe in general Tampa Bay does not allow a lot of receiving arts to tight ends. But they're suddenly looking for him and down near the goal line, and he saw the kind of the trick play they kind of had to get him open against the Bills, I mean where they kind of snuck them
out And how did they not cover Kelsey? Is that last week weeks ago which one Kelsey step out was wide open in the end zone for one of those touchdowns. Oh, they all run in together for me. Now, I'm not sure which one you're referring to. It was I was against the bills of the week before that. Oh yeah, where he was just sitting out there in this direction where Kelsey came out to the left, no one was around, you know, five days to get him over here the episode.
So I'm not against that. I don't know if I've laid one step five odds, but I'm not against it. I had no problem laying what my minus one seven five for eighty two last time these two teams played. By the way, um, there's some interesting plus justice if you could, you think he's gonna get two touchdowns over one and a half some really nice plus yeah, plus money you can get. Some books are offering two guys scoring a touchdown at plus money. You know you can
do the math on and see if it's good. DraftKings is doing that, by the way, they didn't offer Travis Kelsey and Tom Brady. I'm gonna have to ask Johnny Evell to put that one up. But interesting stat about the red zone though for for Kansas City, I'm not sure if your stats corroborate this as well, Bob, that Tyreek Hill has gotten one more red zone target than Travis Kelsey this year. I would never have imagined that. I would have thought it would be a math monster
gap between the two. Well, they run those little There's been a couple of life scene where they kind of run him in motion and then he just keeps going and sort of just runs to the corner and then get him the ball before the like one yard or at the line of scrimmage, and then he just sort of sprints it into the corner. Pymon. I've seen a few of those. Those are the only those are the only two props. I've been Brady over half yard and Kelsey might just wants every home. You have a couple
more bumps. I'm gonna do one more. UM Brian Pringle, who maybe no one's heard about, but there are props on his receiving yards and it's at ten and a half mostly UM. He's been getting some playing time because Watkins has been out. Looks like Watkins is gonna play UM. So they have Tyree Hill to Marcus Robinson, Um Hardeman, and then Watkins. So Pringle would be the fifth wide receiver.
He might not even got on the field, So I think under ten and a half receiving yards even if he does catch a ball, it's probably gonna be around ten yards. I think it's a good bet. I don't think he's gonna get a get a target. So if Watkins plays, I don't think Kingles playing, so under ten and a half receiving yards on Brian Kringle. If you can find it, there's that's some of the major books. Not every online book is going to have that, but
there's one. There's one to play. If you have one deal that you might like, what do you got tough? I kind of like this one length of longest drive under eighty four and a half minus one thirty. So basically what that means is as long as nobody starts from inside the fifteen yard line and goes for a touchdown, you win the bet. So here's why I'm thinking that that might be a good bet. Why would that even
happen in the first place? Right it would happen is if one team is it around seven yard line and decides to punt and somehow pins the other team deep, and now the other team goes, you know, more than eighty four and a half yard drive starting from the fifteen. I have a feeling that Tampa Bay is gonna think if they're on the plus side of the field. They've got to go for it because you've gotta beat Kansas
City when you have the opportunity. So I don't see them thinking, Okay, yeah, let's pin Kansas City back because Kansa City is gonna be at the Fort yard land in ten minutes, in ten seconds anyways, so why even try to pin them deep? Typically that's probably not gonna happen as much against Kansas City. You're gonna go for it more as opposed to try to pin them deep.
On the other side, Kansas City may try to do it to Tampa Bay, but then as Tampa Bay really gonna be able to do um eighty five yard drives, I'm more concerned about Kansas City being able to do it. So I kind of like that one under eighty four and a half as the longest drive minus one thirty.
I don't know what you guys think about that. I like the reason they the only two things that could get you, I guess, are our deep deep field position, pick or turnover or fumble, pick or fumble, and if a kickoff return is mortared right or just a bad kickoff return, that would be the only other thing obviously, typically they get to the sixteen. Yes, typically, I forgot I have a third one. It's it's I laid four
oh five. Okay, Brad Pinion, the punter for Tampa, Brad racking Pinion will not punt a touch back minus four oh five, will not punch a touchback, right. I like that. He's He's had fifty five punts two touchbacks this year and plus. The reason I choose the home punter is because he would more understand the wind and the weather conditions in that stadium since he kicks there eight times a year. But also that goes with the times expected,
well not many. That's another factor, b I mean, how many times can you punt against Kansas City and not from plus territory. That's my same theory, Mike three, maybe three times two or three? Yeah, let's say three, and then it would be ten and a half percent that he would have a touchback. Would good? I think yeah,
it would be good. I also think, Bob, it would be waited to the fact that they're not going to be punting from the plus forty you know what I mean, They're gonna be going for They're gonna be punting when they're backed up. I agree. I think that's a good bat. By the way, there weren't a lot of punts in the first game. By the way, Bob, could you just
explain the Matthew just did for people. Well, he said two touchbacks and fifty fifty three divided by fifty five at this point nine six, three, six, and then you to the third. If he's gonna plant three times, you use that to the third. And then she tracked one. The chance he's gonna have a touchback is one minus
the chance he has no touchback. The chance here has no touchbacks is like I said, fifty three out of fifty five to the third, no touchback, no touchback, no touch Actually find those together, um, and then subtracted one of the chance. But that and that doesn't take into account with Mikeias thing, which is it's also he's agreeing with me. It's going to be rare for Tampa Bay to be yes right, if that premise is true. It's
even less like that. I think it's a good better four or five, because it should be problem with minus five to water. Of course, all of these thoughts are if they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, right, But even if not. If he punched three times, I meant times in the regular season in seventeen games, that's three three and a half, right, three three and change, not even a half for you. Right, So if you think, all right, well, maybe they put a little bit less
than three is three is legit? Even if it is, you know, three point three point three, it's still eleven and a half percent that he has a touch back. Yeah, it's like seven to one on I think that's very few. Very few punts are touch backs, especially hardman fields it at the one anyhow, right there, the old fair that's right, thank you. Yeah, they old like let it go if it's inside the ten, doesn't I don't know when they decided they don't do that anymore, but they don't. Um.
I'll say this every year again. The one prop that flummixes tends to flummix the casual better the most in Super Bowl prop history, will the team score three times in a row? The no has a huge plus money plus one seventy ish. The average better looks at that? What do you mean? These are the two best teams in football, By the way, conversions accepted here. These are the two best teams in football. What are the chances of one of these teams scoring three times in a row?
It happens all the time, by the way, last eleven Super Bowls, for instance, if you want to do a small sample's eye, it's happened seven times that a team has scored three times in a row. So don't be don't be so tempted by the no there that is actually properly priced and books know this. Books aren't as dumb as you might think they are in these particular situations. Bob, has there ever been? Is there? Is? There? Are there others that you look at where you're like, oh, I
can see people being hoodwinked by this one. I don't know. I think that's a good one, and that's a trick one. And I've actually never really I see that one every year and I'm like, uh, just I just don't go and figure out the math, you know, I'm like, and I have to go. I have to you have to write some kind of querry you go through the play by play dead of all these games and competitive games
versus non competitive It would just be a headache. It's just not worth my time to involve one other prop and this sort of fly than the You know, if I'm if you're in the Tampa Bay if you think Tampa Bay is has value, then Tom Brady to win the Super Bowl is plus two tennis um m v it wins the Super Bowl. I think Tom Brady is very likely to be the m v P. So if you're on the top, if you're on the Tampa Bay train, you think Tampa he has got a decent chance at
an upset. Here ish of an upset, then Tom Brady in the Super Bowl plus two ten is that would have value? Can you find plus two ten on Brady down? That seems like wow? Plus two ten plus. I talked about now, talked about this before the playoffs started that if you had conviction on the Packers or if you had conviction on the Chiefs, that was the time to bet Rogers or Mahomes on m v P because you were getting like five to one and six to one respectively.
You know, we we brought up a point on on a numbers game on Visa the other day with Drew Dinsic. Which is one of the things about voting for the m v P is the haste with which they vote for this. So usually by the by by the time the clock goes to zero, they already telling you who the m v P is. And the reason that came up is because the a f C Championship, Travis Kelsey
had thirteen catches and two touchdowns. Tyreek Hill had a hundred and seventy yards receiving, And so I sort of hypothetically asked if those stats were transferred to the Super Bowl. Let's say the Chiefs win the Super Bowl and Tyreek has a hundred seventy yards receiving and Travis Kelsey thirteen catches plus two touchdowns. Would one of those two guys get the MVP or would they still give it to the homes And one of the things we talked about was the sheer haste with which they give the award.
They don't have like an hour to contemplate this stuff, like and you know the NBA m v P, where they have weeks to consider it or months for the whole arc of the season, and they finally do it very deliberately, they're like, Bam, there's your m v P. And so that really does further tip it to the scales of the quarterback because you they really just like just get to the homes kind of thing, although in
the first game still would have definitely been that. Yes, if it's an outlier like that where he's two hundred yards in by halftime, but it would take something like that. And in the in the case of Brady, which I'll agree with you even more, they are going to bend
over backwards. Right with that narrative, let's give this guy, like what would have to happen for Tom for Tampa to win and Tom Brady not to get at m v P. You can make the argument that if there was an m VP of the Championship game two weeks ago against Green Bay, he threw three interceptions, he still probably would have gotten the m v P. Yeah, in recent days, recent days anecdotally, now, Mark de Rosa, who had big Tampa Bay futures UH one two, like a
quarter million on them winning the NFC Championship, stands to make more on the Super Bowl. He bet this before, like the day before Tom Brady went to the Bucks. Jason Weingarten, who had Tampa Bay Kansas City exact as, also had Tampa Bay to win the NFC. Both of these guys have been in the case of Gross a hundred fifty two one on both uh Jason Pierre Paul and Shack Barrett to win m v P. The thinking being, and you're just trying to come up with a game
script draw line. If Tampa Bay went like, let's take last year's Super Bowl. If San Francisco makes a stop at the end of that game, Let's say it's an interception or from or whatever, it is, a big hit, maybe one of San Francisco's defenders gets m v P. May ab so, I guess there's a scenario where that's what they're Anyway, at the number they thought it was, JPP could have like three sacks and two fumbles or something that would do it. Barrett barretts in a better spot. Barrett.
Barrett has a higher saparate than JPP, and he's also going to be going against the backup tackle, right, but Barrett has a better chance of getting sacks. And man Barrett was all over the field against the Packers, that's for sure. So anyway, just by the way, I have one that I wanted to ask you guys about total players to attempt to pass, including overtime. I have under two and a half at minus two fifteen over two
and half a plus one six. I don't remember these teams letting anybody throw the ball besides um Mahmes and Brady. Do you guys remember anybody throwing the ball for Kansas City this year or for Tampa Bay. We actually looked into that sam Sammy Watkins through a pass, That's what's that. I thought that too. I was thinking I saw something on a reverse path. But it's not common. No, it's not like a Saint situation. They don't need to do it in the Super Bowl with two great quarterbacks, they
don't need to take that risk. Yeh. That's why I think that No, No. Under two and a half minus two fifteen might be worth it. It's not like, you know, you have like Belichick, who's gonna, you know, have Edelman throw it for a touchdown or something like that. It's it's not that kind of deal. Imagine if you had that bet the worst bad beat ever, they're lining up for the game winning field goal or something. It's a bad snap and the holder has to toss, right, That's right,
that'll get you. The other work that we were talking about is there was like an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman to score a touchdown and it was like huge, you know, bank for your I have that right here. Yeah, and any offensive lineman to score touchdown is plus two thousand. Yes, the no is like minus a gazillion. And any offensive or defensive lineman to score a touchdown this way you get both is plus eight hundred no minus two thousand. Book,
is that, Todd? This is the DraftKings. Yeah, so you'd have to go back and see how many times they wrote a tackle eligible thing down by the goal line. And I don't know that often, Todd. Have you found any penalty props? I haven't really, I haven't looked. I did see, I did see some penalty I was scrolling through all this nonsense while you guys were talking, and I did see. I did see some penalty props. Do you want me to see if I can find him again?
It was there an offensive holding total number of offensive holding calls? M M, yeah, I got punch. Oh, there's all these punting props. These are the ones you were talking about, the inside the five drive props. Penalty props here you go, Okay, penalty props. They've got either team to commit a roughing the passer penalty, including overtime. That's a good one. What do you think that one is? Guys, that's gotta that. You've gotta lay some juice on that. No,
no is minus one sixty two plus one thirty. Well, so if you want, that's a yes or nothing for me, I would pay yes. And both of these quarterbacks are the ones that will protect to you know what I mean, not like Cam Newton where they let him beat him up and they never call ruffing. You can't cough on Tom Brady. You know, total penalties over ten and a half, under ten and under ten and a half is minus one thirty seven over ten and a half is plus
one ten How is that worded accepted penalties? This just says total penalty. That's very poorly worded, because if it's total penalties, you go over. Yeah, I think it's accepted. Yeah, well do you you're there, you're the referee, Gay, Do you have any angle on this officiating crew? No? Not really? Uh. I just I was wondering if they put offensive holding, because they just they refused to call offensive holding anymore
in the NFL. So I was wondering if they put up like a three and a half on that would be an interesting number. How about the difference. Here's one we've seen in these some games where they're just like, we're absolutely not throwing any flags. Then some games were like we're the stars, We're throwing every flag we can. Bus Well, I think no matter what, everybody enjoys the game, they don't throw the flag. I mean, you know, there's what what are what are the flags? Most stuff's reviewable anyhow,
you know what I mean. So well, in the green Bay game, there was definitely missed um miss defensive holding which they usually always call on the receivers until the last play, which was the most important play, which they didn't miss. The Murphy bunting pick was a total interference. But I mean, in fairness, the green Bay right tackle was or left tackle was you know, false started every
play they never called it. And then there was one play where green Bay was a full second and a half after the play call went to zero and nobody said a word. They miss They missed that. They always missed there's one guy that's looking at four things, and they missed that a lot. They miss it when it's a beat like a half second. But this one was like one, by the way, here's the here's the one that basically is what you're talking is similar to what
you're talking about first accepted penalty type. There's eight different choice choices here, and I don't think holding should be the favorite. They have holding it plus two thirty personal foul plus three hundred, false start plus four hundred. That's what I would guess it should be. False starter off sides it should be this. It's gonna be one of those pre snap penalties, right, That's what I would say. False starts should be the favorite. False start is third
at plus four hundred. Offside is plus four fifty, passenger ferens plus five seventy five, the layout game plus eighteen hundred that will never happen, no penalties is plus ten thousand, and any other fouls plus seven. I would go with false start plus four hundred false starts. In the Super Bowl, people are like nervous and stuff. I like that one.
You didn't do the handway. I got a couple of guys on Casey's line that haven't been playing all season and maybe don't own Mahome's aiden, so I could see some star. Do you generally hear the ones we're talking about, Bob, and you're like, I don't have time for this or are you intrigued by the ever growing man those No, you are not. I didn't think you were. I'm not in my wheelhouse interesting just because it's a time suck if you had to really truly research stuff like this. Yes, okay,
that's what I thought. All right, Well I'm with Bob anyways, because a lot of this stuff is correlated anyway, you might as well just watch it. First of all, don't bet before the game. Watch the damn game. You get so much more value and end game and by the way, just one more shot for in game, because I always, I always, um, you know, talk up end game. You have to understand, you get all this information free. It's
free of charge. At the end of one quarter, they're just going to make the line whatever the original line is for the final three quarters. So guys, you didn't have to bet before the game exact line. Yeah, okay, big deal. The information is worth so much more. And also the thirty cent line is nonsense too, because if you're anywhere, you just compare a couple of different books
and you can certainly knock that thing down. Well, you're right on that, and the counter of the counter is I'll pay extra jews if it's like four points better right, you know that kind of thing from what it was proof if I'm studying in game bets say again, Bob, I agree with you, and talk about if you're taking the Todd let him finish. You can't do Margarita's. If he's doing in game, you can't do Margarita That. That reminds me of a lass So its debate watch party
that my wife and I went to. Alass So explain to people. Alassa is a plaintiff attorney that used to sponsor a segment at the debate party. Follow the money, and it was all Trump people. It was all they had. Margarita's. Oh god, I was sending pictures to Mitch and in the but what's very young people was surprised. It was like all people. It was his kid's age five to thirty, all the district attorneys and all this. We're tremendous spread, great prime rib it was. It was, my wife said,
except for the debate. It was a nice party, amendous spread, nicest party I've ever been. Yeah, the greatest spread ever. All Right, I gotta go Gil, alright, he's gotta go do the some people are saying, some people are saying, I hear Mike Palm, thanks Dr thank you, thank you, thank you for the whole season. Mikey, thank you, Buddy, appreciate all right, you talk to Dr Bob. We'll wrap it up for Mike Palm, for Todd wish for the great Dr Bob, Thank you, Bob, appreciate as always, man's
good um r I POSHATAI. Well we'll never have it back, but we can always have the memories. Uh. Good luck to everybody with all your Super Bowl fifty five bets either on the game uh spread, money line or total. Certainly with all your prop bets as well for all of us on the Beating the book megapod, thanks for listening today, Thanks for listening all season long. We'll have another podcast and start the off season in a few weeks. Thank you so much for listening. Good luck with all your backs.
