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popping up on the screen. And then you just go into you're just going to auto it is Gil Alexander Division round. Oh boy, do we have a lot to talk about? Um. Maybe not quite as much in terms of coaching gaffs that was the case last week after wild Card weekend, but certainly much to talk about rules, to discuss coaching changes. Uh. And of course it's the it's the Packers and the Buccaneer years in the NFC,
the Bay of Pigs, as Chris Berman used to say it. Uh. And then in the in the a f C, it's uh, it's it's Kansas City and Buffalo maybe the four teams we thought, although the Buccaneers may be replaced by the Saints, maybe so maybe not the four teams we thought. The first thing I want to say is shout out to Aaron Shots, because people went a little after Football Outsiders rankings all years saying, hey, they kind of had the Bucks overrated all year. Maybe not, so let's comparing shots
of sly improved over the last two weeks too. Yeah, let's give him a shout off the top. This is typically on Monday we do guessing lines. Were still branded as guessing lines, but we will talk about everything that happened this past weekend and we will talk about the two championship games moving forward with of course my book at the star of the show. He runs the South Point Sports Book. Here, it's Chrissie Andrews. Good morning to Chrissie.
How you doing all? We're doing pretty good. Let's survived the weekend? Okay, so yeah, we're doing from a book's perspective. Let's get that out of the way and let's go. Let's get your intro for this is Guessing Lines with Chrissy Andrews. The numbers game. There it is, there's the animation. Um, how did you do? From a books perspective? Saturday was a great day and everything fell perfectly for us yesterday.
You know, we had a lot of stuff running. Um, you know we uh they founded us on the Browns pretty good just before post we want to closing name eight. Um, So that game wasn't terrible, It wasn't good, it turning, you know, it wasn't terrible. That s game had some potential to be terrible because a lot of it was running through New Orleans. Um, you know, I didn't want to mess around with the two and a half three. So once they took the three off, I went to two and a half, kept it there. I got rid
of a lot of it on the money line. But so we needed Tampa Bay pretty good, and we needed Under really good. And you know we snuck through with that. So so it saved us. But Sunday was no more than a break even, just you know, a very very slight winner then the basketball kind of guy us yesterday with football wise, Uh, just a break even yesterday. Yeah. And I was solid on both early games, not so solid on both late games. Uh, we'll get into it.
Let's just do it. Let's do it in chronological order, as we normally do in terms of what's coming up for championship. Weekend, and we'll go back and review everything from yesterday in the process. So, what's the first of the two championship games on Sunday? The Tampa Green Bay Tampa Bay at Green Bay, the Bay of Pigs. Um, alright, Buccaneers do it. That's the game most recent or most uh clear in our minds since it was the last
one yesterday. The Buccaneers beat the Saints thirty to twenty. Really, the entire story of this game is the turnovers. Right, There's not really much else to say for Saints turnovers, none for the Bucks. Uh. And if you go through them, two of those, you know, two of the Bucks touchdowns uh directly off well really twenty one points directly off the turnovers. The first of wish the Saints led six
to three. Breeze trying to flee pressure, he underthrows Michael Thomas intercepted by Sean Murphy, bunding thirty six yards along the sideline to the Saints three. And then Brady Hits Evans play later to put the Bucks up ten to six. Then, uh, you know, Breeze in the and the Saints go up on a tray kawon Smith catch. They go up twenty to thirteen. New Orleans appeared primed, you know, to build on the lead. They had the ball back up seven.
Breeze finds Jared Cook. This one was not a Breeze pick, but this is a Jared Cook fumble across the fifty buck safe dance on Winfield strips him from behind. White snags the loose ball. Devin White does returns to eighteen yards in New Orleans. Forty five plays later, it's Brady to four net over the middle for a six yards score that tied it up. Then Devon White snags the
second of breeze three interceptions. UH was a pass intended for Alvin Kamara gave the Bucks the ball at the New Orleans twenty, setting up Tampa Bay's final touchdown, and then the last one Brady drove by the way. Brady drove to the Bucks one on that one from where he scored himself with one with four fifty seven left to virtually ensure his fourteenth trip. It's Gill, Alexander and Chris Andrews. This is guessing lines on a numbers game
at Vista, the sports betting network. UH that virtually ensured Tom Brady's fourteen trip. To a conference championship game on that last uh, capitalizing off the last pick his first in the NFC. Um and then or that was the yeah. And then Brady, by the way, if he wins this game, he'll try to advance to his tenth Super Bowl. Good lord, fourteen conference championship. If he wins that his tenth Super Bowl?
What are we talking about here? Amazing? Good Lord? By the way, after his third interception on tip pass late in the fourth quarter of the Bucks were able to close out the game. So it was you know, it was the two picks. His first two picks led directly to such downs and the Jared Cook fumble led to a third and in the last pick sealed the deal.
Brady ends up. Brady came into the game and eighteen passing yards in his last four games, twelve touchdowns, one pick, and in this one he was eighteen of thirty three for one two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once, he was not intercepted, largely avoided pressure, took only one sack. As I said, plus four and turnovers is really all you need to know. And um, you know, look, then there's that we can go to the New Orleans side momentarily, but with Green Bay they beat the Rams thirty two
to eighteen. Saturday morning. They played without Cooper Cup and as soon as that information came out, the Cooper Cup wasn't playing. That went from six and a half to seven. Did you do the same here, Christy? Oh yeah, yeah, same? And I said it all week, you know that I didn't believe what the coaches were telling us. The Coup will be fine. Donald was fine, Donald was fine. I didn't believe. And it came to fruition. Cup missed the game and Donald was on a pitch count and that
was a huge, huge, huge kid to the game. Uh. And you know Rogers uh was playing in a in a conference championship game yesterday at home for the first times. Uh first time sinstaking over his Green Based starting quarterback two thousand and eight. He reached the championship game for the fourth time in seven seasons, trying to get to their first Super Bowl in a decade. Uh yeah, first
Super Bowl birth in a decade. They'll be their first NFC title contest, as it turns out at Lambo since the two thousand seven season, Rodgers was a backup too far there they lost that game. That was the Tom Coughlan my face is falling off game where the Giants beat him by a field coal. If you recall um there were only how many fans were there there was There was only eight thousand, four hundred fifty six fans. Rogers said it felt like there were fifty thousand. Aaron
Jones said it felt like eighty thousand. Alan Wizard said it felt like ninety thousand. Honestly didn't allow any sacks. The Packers didn't despite being without All Pro left tackle David Baktiari. They cord on their first five drives of the games. The Packers did three touchdowns, two field goals. It was the thirteenth game this season with thirty plus points, most in the NFL, eleventh game this season without a turnover.
Rogers twenty three or thirty six for two ninety six, two touchdowns, not picks, not sacked, and they just filled up the statue right. Jones fourteen and ninety nine for a touchdown. Lazard for ninety six touchdown, Adams nine of sixty six falling just below his prop and a touchdown eight of twelve on third down four eight four total yards one eight rushing and we can talk about the Rams because they were depleted. Naron Donald was just not
not himself, was not healthy. Clearly in the end, I thought this was going to be green Bay talking about green Bay Tampa Bay. Now, after those outcomes, I thought green Bay would be a three and a half point favorite, and that's not what it ended up being, is it. Well, we opened four, which I really thought was a good number, but they took it off because we'd three and a half now with action, well with you know, playing money came in last night on Tampa. So we're three and
a half legitimately because of action. Oh part Pardon me, I got that wrong. So I was wrong on both of these. And let me just say for those who are like, hey, you're not really guessing, No, No. I thought about what the lines would be yesterday and obviously found out what the lines as this is the one. I thought green Bay would be three point favorites. Pardon me, I was low on this. I said green Bay minus three. Here. It's the the second game where I thought it would
be three and a half. Um, but we'll get into that. Because I didn't think there should be a line at all in the second game, and I know you have thoughts on that, but I thought green Bay minus three here, So I'm I'm low on this. You're at three and a half now, yeah, we are. But like I said, I thought four was a good opening number. Um, you know, I have my reasons. I guess you know, the market
eminitely disagreed with me. But I think right now, you know, you know, I mean right now, I think that there is a little bit of a home field advantage, particularly for a Florida team going up to Green Bay in January. Um, you know, I think Rogers playing probably the best football is of his career, which is, you know, startling to say at his age when the coaching has an awful lot to do with it. Um, you know it's not the not Brady, but I don't. I don't think right
now he's as good as Rogers. And uh, you know, I think the coaching, you know, I like Bruce Arians, but I like Matt Lafloor a lot better. So I think there's a there's a couple of edges for green Bay, and uh, I think it deserved to be more than the three. I thought. I thought four was a good opening number, and that's when I opened it going back to Tampa Bay in New Orleans. Yesterday. New Orleans was
without Taysom Hill, they were without Lettavius Murray. Then Deante Harris, who had two great great punt returns early right returned the first one fifty four yards set up at field well and then the second one called back because of a block in the back, but he leaves with a neck injury in the first half as well. Uh Jamis Winston with the only big play for the Saints early in this game to tray Kawan Smith for fifty six yards and a touchdown, the exact Saint play the Bears
ran against the Saints the previous week. The Saints pulled it against the Bucks, and it was just you really did wonder where the Saints better off. Like, as this game went on, you were like, maybe let's just see what Jamis can do here, because because Drew Brees and we've said this about him all year long, and and actually we said this about him last year, he can't throw the ball down field, and for much of that we then quickly said, oh, we're acting like Drew Brees,
is that terrible? Okay, yes, he can't throw the ball downfield. He's still awesome. I don't know. Was he awesome yesterday? I don't I don't know. Nineteen of thirty four for one thirty four touchdown, three picks, no sacks. All the reports are is that he is going to retire. He has not confirmed this quite yet, as I'm as, I'm uh, you know, looking across he has not confirmed in himself. But that is it appears the writing is on the wall for that. That seems to be the right move,
would you not say so? Yeah? An all week? You know, I was on a couple of different shows, and I probably said on your show last week, I I'm not the biggest breeze guy, uh and at his best, And I don't think right now he's not at his best. He doesn't have a zip on the fastball, he can't really throw the ball long. Um, you know, I think his team kind of carried him. And I saw somebody else made the comment that, you know, Drew Brees reminds me of Peyton Manning, which I thought was a pretty
apt comparison. Um, if you remember that that that team won a Super Bowl, but it was strictly defense and Peyton was really nothing more than, uh, you know, a game manager. In that, but you know they didn't quite have the talent to pull it off. But you know, the turnovers where the key of the game. Three of them were interceptions, and I know you could always kind of make some excuses, which you can for breeding a lot of tip balls and that sort of thing, but
they still happen. And uh, you know, I think, certainly the writes on the law he comes back, I think it would be a big mistake for him. And you know, he has a great legacy. He does. Just because I'm not the biggest breeze guy doesn't mean that much. He's still going to go into the Hall of Fame first day he's eligible. So you know, I think it would certainly be a tarnishing his image if he were to
come back right now. Yeah, no, Ship, You're right, No shame in forty two years old, just turned forty two. Hall of Famer immediately, what he's eligible. As you said, um, I had this Green Bay minus three. It's a it's a tick above that in many ways. You know, Look as we crescendo because we all want to talk about the Kansas City Cleveland game, because that's that's got the most meat on the bone. But the Tampa Bay New Orleans games simply came down to the turnovers period. It's
that simple. The Packers Rams game, to me, simply just came down to the fact that Aaron Donald was not full strength. One tackle, no sacks, no quarterback hits one week after rib injury knocked him out of the window over Seattle last week which they won thirty twenty, but he clearly wasn't himself, had just one assist. As a matter of fact, the Rams defense zero sacks, zero takeaways. As I mentioned fo eighty four total yards allowed. Golf was one seventy four or one touchdown note picks. He
was stacked four times. He ends up two and three now straight up in the playoffs. Jared Golf does has never thrown multiple touchdowns in the playoff game. The Rams, of these of these eight teams headed into the UH Divisional round, was the most flawed. I think of the teams UH and the Packers to me, I have them winning the Super Bowl. I have them beating the Chiefs.
From before the playoffs started and when we did brackets on primetime Action, I think the Packers are the team to beat and Aaron Rodgers just looks so effortless, smiling as the other team is trying to figure out how to combat him. So, um yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's the Packers year. I think they had the weakest opponent of the bunch. They got it done. Wasn't wasn't a blowout in the end, right, the Rams hung around, But in the end, I don't think they
had it on defense with Aaron Donald being diminished. No, I mean it just shows you what, you know, key players do make a big difference. And you know, they lost their best offensive player, the best defensive player, and I know we we knocked off a lot of people, knocked off quite a bit. I thought he played a really good game, you know, I thought, you know, he did as much as he could to keep that team in the game. And I think he deserves some credit
for it. But going on, you know Rogers right now, I mean Rodgers, you know, he's a man, and uh you know, they talked about, you know, mid season it looked like there's gonna be between Rogers and my Homes for m v P. Then you know, Rogers has clearly passed him. I think he's playing just terrific ball, and uh, well, I think they're gonna win the Super Bowl and then includes winning and covering this game against Camp. Yeah, I I lean here in Green Bay. I don't you know,
Bruce Arians. We have this tweet here. This is from Bill Barnwell. Um, again it really did come to It's just look, if you had a box score, if you had access to the box score, all you would have to do in the NFL games is go to the turnover column and you can pretty much figure the game win NBA, it's really three point shooting percentage. But here's Bill Barnwell. The Bucks went for it on fourth and
one once during this game. Game they've you know, subsequently went six yards down the field fourth and one in their own territory. Subsequently went six yards down the field and scored. Another time was fourth and two, they kicked the field goal. Then on a fourth than one that you know, they punt. So Bruce Arians, who again, I'm worried he's trying to detonate himself the way he's trapped on like that. Uh, it's just his His decision making or that team's decision making is all over the board.
Brady Brady, doesn't you know. Look, Brady Can is great at taking what the defense gives him, does throw the ball downfield unlike Drew Brees give him that much. But what Mike Evans had one? Did he have one catch ultimately in this game and they still ended up winning and it was all turnovers. So I don't know how much you can you can read into this, by the way, And when I asked Aaron Shots, now I'm just flipping
all over place. But when I asked Aaron Shots before the season started about his football preview, what was the most amazing stat was the most was the thing that even you were shocked by when you did it before the season. And he said to me, he goes, you know, it's a it's a good question that you ask um.
By the way, Mike Evans, yes, with just that one catch for three yards in the touchdown, And he said it was the fact that in the Saints last three off three playoff losses headed into this season, Michael Thomas had exactly three total third down catches in the saints previous three playoff losses, which was just an unbelievable stat and then yesterday he has zero catches. In the end, he was targeted four times, he ends up with zero
catches and it's just it's incredible. It's it's absolutely incredible. So what was already the most amazing stat to him just goes on steroids yesterday without even a single catch, let alone not a catch on third down. And that's the Saints in the end. Do you do you you know, Sean Payton has had these playoff disasters, uh, if we can use that word, but these playoff losses now more than once, you feel the same about him as you
have all year. No, um, you know, but I do think, you know, whatever, you know, however successful we see Breese, I think Sean Payton had a lot to do with that, she says, But you know, I mean football is just such a funny game, you know, it's you know, it's not like basketball, where like one turnover could mean so much. And we'll get to that with the Bills game, I
guess when we talked about that one. But I mean, one turnover in basketball might mean you know, you know, the most, it's gonna mean six points you make it three or the other team makes it three. Um, but here it's just gonna be so dramatic, and it seems like he's had some bad luck in a couple of situations, you know, the past interference play, the long word digs went all the way on, you know, seemingly, you know, good player would have put the vikings into a field
goal position. Um. And then you know he turns around and gotten missed the tackle and all of a sudden a six points. Um. So he I think he's been he's gotten some bad luck. So but when you keep losing those games, you know, and I think you made some questionable decisions with Paysom Hill Um, you know. So I don't know. I mean, listen, it's always easy from here to say what a coach. And I always hate the Internet Twitter. Every coach is an idiot, you know
what I mean. I don't like to go there. You know, that's just what everybody does. But you know, not, you know, maybe a little bit, but not too much. I think he pulled a lot out of Breeze his whole career, including this year. He got as much as he could out of him. I just think that that it just
wasn't there for during this year. Yeah. Um, those in many ways, those were the two of those two games were the least interesting of the four, uh this past weekend, And those I mean Green Bay I had going away and in the case of the States, they just couldn't get it there. They could not get it there even in uh in teasers and again it comes just down comes down to the turnovers. And that's all she wrote. We'll talk about, of course, the a f C Championship
here momentarily. Just want to talk about some coaching moves that have happened there as we go to the break. In the case of the Rams, Brandon Staley, their defensive coordinator, hired by the Los Angeles Chargers to be their head coach, which is a curious move because curious in the sense that the reports we were getting were that the Chargers were going to hire Tom to LESCo and Brian Dayball, the Bills offensive coordinator, went to high school together, played
high school football together. Um, and to let's go tried to downplay that when people were drumming up that report, like, oh, this is their first choice, and in the end, they didn't wait for the Bills at all to to finish their playoff run. They hired Brandon Staley immediately. But I would just say this, if you have Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey and before that, Von Miller in Denver. Do we know if you're a great coach or not? I mean, I'm not sure we know that, but they couldn't wait
to hire him. So that's interesting. I have the Chargers, and the Charger has ever been accused of being a well run organization? I don't know, No, I mean it's interesting. We'll get to all the other because if there's some US coaches coaching hires that are that are going around, that's not just the first And I don't even know if people think that that one's curious. Um, but again, what do we know? How how how good is he? If you have all the best talent in the world. Um,
only time will tell. We'll come back. We're going to talk about the a f C Championship, of course, and more of these coaching moves. The Chiefs and the Browns the worst rule in football will debate that as well, and we'll talk. Here's Adam Schefter's tweet about uh well. This was from a couple of days ago. Brian day Ball went to save France's high school and Buffalo with
Chargers GM Tom to LESCo. They played on the same high school football team, with day Ball two grades behind to let's go Dave Ball was a safety to let's go wide receiver in corner. Now they could be teammates again. Nope, they're going with Brandon Staley of the Rams, the Rams defensive coordinator. And then there's the Then there's the Lions.
In case you missed this this morning, the Lions are set to hire Saints assistant Dan Campbell as their next head coach, which kind of came out of nowhere now that New Orleans has been eliminated, Schefter says, the Lines are expected to hire Saints assistant head coach tight end coach Dan Campbell as their next head coach. For sources, the two sides still need to work out a deal, but it's not considered an obstacle in Campbell will be
the lions next head coach. The Lion screw it up again, Well I don't know, we'll see, but it is a still no Joe Brady, you know, and Eric be enemy who again I guess has an interview problem three three years now hasn't gotten a head coaching job. We get to be enemy and read obviously coming up. And then there's the big other you know, personnel move this weekend, which was the uh, personnel move, but personnel speculation about
DeShawn Watson. From Schefter, there's a growing sense from people in and around the Texans organization that Deshaun Watson has played his last night for the team. It's early in the off season, there's a lot of time left, but Watson's feelings cannot and should not be underestimated. Christie, what about that one. I'm hoping I can see him in a Steeler you before, is what I'm hoping. But I don't think he's gonna be a rock Houston. But I listened the kids. He played great. No, it reminds me
of your a base ball guy. I think you would appreciate this. Remember the year Steve Carlton had twenty eight wins for the Phillies and they won like games or something like that, and uh, you know, you know that's what I compare Watson too. He had a great, great season and the U and Houston won four games, you know, So I think those two are comparable. But I think Watson, he lands on the right teams, He's going to be a guy that we're gonna hear him for years. Yeah,
I think you got it right too. I think it was twenty eight wins in in a fifty seven wins season for lefty l We'll check to make sure that's exactly what it was. Um, The thing is like, what would you So the Dolphins makes the most sense because they would be able to give up to if they were interested in making that deal, and the Texans move on a quarterback back, so TA and the third pick
in the draft. Because I was speculating about this with my Washington football fan friends yesterday and in the end we were just like, we don't have enough to give them for that, right, even if it was like Chase Young in Washington's first round pick, that's not as good of a deal for Houston as it would be to Ah and the third pick in the draft probably, and then the Jets might be the most well positioned. But do you really want Sam Donald back? Like, would you
accept that deal? I don't know. Well, I think I think the jury's out on Sam Donald. You know, I was not big on him coming out of college because I said he he doesn't protect the ball well enough, whether it's through interceptions or fumbles. That's carried on into his pro career. But I think that were he to get good coaching. I think the talents there, I mean, can he put it all together? I mean, so far it looks like the answers no, But there's do you
put him with the right coach? And I don't know what the Jets are gonna do as far as like, you know, their whole staff and all that, but you know, get the right coach for the right quarterback and you know, Donald, I think would be a situation where I'm not heard be bailing on him quite yet. Um. You know, Adam Gaze certainly did not get the best out of this kid, you know, so I don't know he has talent, but there there's still some deep flaws in his game that
I think are correctable. Um, but it has to be correctable from the right guy. Nineteen seventy two Philadelphia Phillies lefty Steve Carlton twenty seven wins in a different era when starting pitchers went that far all the time to get wins. Twenty seven wins the Phillies fifty nine and sixty seven, So twenty seven out of fifty nine for Steve Carlton, whose personal catcher was Tim McCarver um. Nineteen seventy to Philadelphia Phillies. Okay, we'll come back. We'll do
the a f C Championship. Obviously between the Chiefs and the Bills. My guests on that one was three and a half if there was going to be a line, and assumed it was Patrick Mahomes, and I see that it turned out to be three, and I was the opposite. On the other one, I had three h on the Packers that end up being higher than that. But I want to ask Christie about why a line was posted for this at all between the Chiefs and the Bills without knowing if Patrick Mahomes is going to be available.
All the speculation now is that he will be. But are we all doctors? We all get that now. Um, we'll talk about that. And of course the game itself coming back on a numbers game at Visa, these sports
betting netwhere just start right off the top. Because I got in debate with my with my buddy about this right after the Chiefs game, obviously knowing that Mahomes got concussed and knocked out of the game yesterday in the third quarter for the duration for the balance of that game, and I openly said, I was like, why would anybody put up a line at this point, not even knowing what his status is. He goes, oh, he's gonna play. He's gonna play. So that's why people are putting him up.
And I'm like, okay, well that's great that you think that, But what if he doesn't. I know, we're all doctors all of a sudden, but what if he doesn't. How did you approach it? Well? I saw almost everybody put it up, and there was you know, our friends at the circuit they opened Buffalo at two and a half point favorite I guess there as something was my homes will be out. I saw people with you know, all
over the place. But you know, I want I talked to Michael Vaughan last night and he said, don't worry. If you can. He said, if you got to wait an extra day, just wait. So well, you know, so we we waited a long time, and as I was looking, there was two two places didn't have it up. Me and bet Chris. You know, they they huge money, so they weren't going to mess around with this. Because now once everybody had it up, and everybody had it at three,
I went ahead and put it up. But I, you know, have orders into my staff don't take anything major until we hear something about about my homes. Now, the thing about guys saying, well, he's gonna play, you know, there's like a very specific protocol that that he has to pass. It's not like, you know, your ankle hurts and you tell your coach I'm good to go, you know that, And this doesn't work that way anymore with concussions, and maybe did ten twenty years ago, but it doesn't do
that anymore. So he has to pass it um and we'll find out pretty quickly, you know. I think, you know, I also saw last night he was tweeting, and you know, I heard reports that he's up, he's walking around. He seems to be okay. So it seems to be okay. That's one thing, you know. And like I said, once everybody had it up. I put it up. But I really think a lot of guys they're rushing to put things up anymore. In this era of social media. You want to get on TV, you want to get on Twitter.
You were the first, you were, Yah. They don't give away any prizes for being first. You know, we're here to make money, and uh, you know, I think that people were you know, and like I said, I'm not gonna tell anybody how to run their business. I'm saying how I'm run mine. And we just wanted to wait
and see get something a little more conclusive. Uh. You know, with a player that's gonna be that key to a game, and even you know you talked about Cooper cup and and Arnold being key to to that game, you know, or Donald I keeping them on Donald being key to the Rams success against the Packing. Well here's a guy you know, you know making can influence the number and off awful lot. So I think it would have been prudent to wait. But once everybody settled in at three,
I went ahead and put it up myself. So Buffalo wins. On Saturday. They beat Baltimore, uh, seventeen to three. And as simple as it was to look back on the Saints and the Bucks and just look at the turnovers, I mean, this was the one big turnover and it killed Baltimore teasers like those that I had. It was just a brutal outcome. But Buffalo with its first DNFC Championship game appearance in twenty seven years, first time since n Congratulations to the Bills fans. Uh they've now won
eight straight games. Tarn Johnson's pick six of Lamar Jackson's pass with forty one seconds remaining in the third quarter, helping to secure the seventeen to three win his return match,
the longest in NFL history. UH the Bills had limited the Ravens offense to a hundred fifty yards on thirty there the rushing offense to a hundred fifty yards on thirty two carries, but Lamar Jackson, last season's NFL m v P stack three times, didn't return after sustaining a concussion following the final play of the third quarter, two plays after Johnson scored on the pick six. But it's
ten to three, the Ravens are going in. At the least you have a chip shot justin Tucker field goal to make it tend to six instead a pick six. By the way, I couldn't believe Tarren Johnson actually decided to try the runback, and UH trade Davius White deserves all the credit on that runback for getting in front of Lamar Jackson. That was really the key to that um. But that was the that's the key play of it all.
And UH Tyler Huntley tried a few times subsequent to that to get the ball in the end zone actually had a first and at the nine, and J. K. Dobbins dropped what looked like a shore touchdown in that sequence, so Ravens teasers couldn't get home. Even with that, it just wasn't meant to be. And the Bills, though in the end, OUT possessed thirty five minutes, thirty three seconds, seven OUT gained three twenty one fifty to thirty two rushing. Uh that's it, though, that one play that really, uh
was everything. By the way, here's Nick Backai, lifelong Buffalo Bills fan who joining us later this week on the tip the Tarren Johnson pick six. Here's his tweet. I just soiled myself. There you go. It's the best. Uh. So he's very pumped, um, but I mean, am I you know, I hate to simplify it to one play, but that was really that that determined everything in the end.
But we were just talking about it, you know before, you know, one turnover what you mean in basketball, like the most it means a six pot that have who wondered something? But here this is just such a huge play.
I mean, they're going in for the game, tiing touchdown and Buffalo at the time, their defense was kind of wobbly, no doubt about it, and uh, you know, it seemed like forvergone conclusion that I thought that they were definitely gonna get the touchdown themselves and tie the game up, and then this play just completely turned the game around.
But still I was impressed with Buffalo, you know, after that, you know, they did you know, they only game three points, you know, to a pretty dynamic offense, and I know they had to turn over and all that, but they I thought they did control the game, you know, for the most part. You know, the Ravens had a chance to score their first touchdown with seconds to play in the third quarter, so I think that was still a
pretty good feat for the Buffalo defense. Josh Allen wasn't great, but he was pretty good, and uh, you know, I think they controlled the ball. Well it's another coaching marvel what they've done at Buffalo too. So you know, this is on those games where you know, I mean, we haven't gotten to Kansas City yet, but we'll talk about it. You know. Anyway, I think Buffalo is a very very live game right now, very love We are about to get to Kansas City and everything that happened there next.
Josh Allen thirty seven for two or six, one touchdown note picks I was sacked twice. The wins were We're just absolutely swirling. The goalposts themselves were moving. Both kickers, Justin Tucker unbelievably and Tyler Bass both missed two field goals in this game. Tucker jinked both of his UH. But I will say this, like the play that ultimately got Lamar Jackson hurt though, the snap that went over
his head. The Ravens center Patrick McCarry was was hiking those balls like a howitzer, and you could almost predict that that was gonna happen at some point. Kept doing it during the game and that's how it ended up. You couldn't predict the injury, but you could predict a horrible snap over his head, and that's what happened. We'll get to the Chiefs next. Right here on a numbers game at Visa these Sports Betting Network UM reviewing everything
that happened yesterday, uh, looking ahead to Championship weekend. Jason, you were saying about the wind, when we were talking about the weather all week, we were like, oh yeah, you know, eight miles per hour whatever or not actually not eight but like thirteen something like that. Nothing nothing in the danger range. And then al Michael said what at the top, Well, they had mentioned that the wind velocity was like eight miles an hour, ten miles an
hour number that was widely reported. And then they showed the actual goal post, the flags go posting. Al Michaels said something the effect of, if if the winds eight miles an hour, I'm an astronaut, all right. The other thing about that game is when Lamar Jackson got concussed, the Baltimore Ravens twitter handle said he's in concussion protocol.
It almost went fifteen minutes before they mentioned anything on the actual national broadcast with Al Michael's and Chris Collinsworth I tweeted about it, and nothing of this on the actual broadcast. It took fifteen minutes um, which is, you know, slightly odd. What are we doing but to the Chiefs because we don't have we not have much time, But the Chiefs end up this. This was minus eight. By game time, Chiefs were eight point favorites, had been ten
point favorites all week. They were down to eight by game time seventeen thousand fans allowed in the stadium, and it turns out that Chad Henny becomes the hero of the day and the Chiefs twenty two to seventeen win to advance their third straight a f C championship game. They had a nineteen to three lead and survived to become the first an FC team to host three consecutive
conference title games. A few key plays. Let's start with the first sixteen to three Chrissie late second quarter, Richard Higgins trying to stretch over the goal line first half spread his six and a half. It's gonna have been in uh and the Chiefs Daniel Sorenson arrives to deliver the hit, pops the ball out, it goes into the end zone for a touchback. The call stood after a video review. Now I had the Chief's minus six and
a half, so this was massive for me. But because I can hold two thoughts in my head at the same time, I also happen to believe that it's the worst orest rule football. I tweeted as such, We're gonna put all sides here, I sarcastic and said, is this where I tweet the dumbest rule in sports. Now your opinion on it is valid as well. I mean your tweet here. Before we get your thoughts on this, here's
Christie's tweet from yesterday about the same play. I know that's a terrible rule, but guys have to know that first and goal from the one is not the worst thing in the world for an offense. Come on, man, get a clue. Um And then Todd wishne Of, responding to Christie said, I like the rule because it makes offensive teams be more careful with reaching the ball out near the goal line. In a sport war, offense gets all the advantages. This is one small advantage defenses get.
So I hope they don't change the rule. But I see the other side too. Christie. Your thoughts, well, I don't like it because I mean, I think it's an exciting play for a guy to try to reach over and score. I think that's that's a good thing for the game. You know, the visuals and all that, uh, but you know, the fact of the matter is, like I said, there's a minute to play in the game. You have a lot of momentum going for you. First and goal from the one is a pretty good position
to be in. There's no reason for you to reach over like that. There's no reason for you to reach over unless it's fourth and goal or the last play of the game, or you know, even maybe the last player of the half, and there's no reason to do it. But I see guys doing it all the time. And will they ever learn, you know what, you'll probably not, probably, So I think the change, uh, you know, I'm with you that the change they've got to change. It's just
too egregious to it's too too much. Even give the ball back to the offense at the twenty something like that. You know, some severe penalty, right, some severe penalty losses down get the ball back at a certain yard line. But there is no And I don't disagree with anything you were trying or saying. Again, we can all hold
separate thoughts in our heads at the same time. It's just that let's say there, let's say teams matriculating the ball down the field, and let's say they're at their own you know, receiver catches the ball at their own thirty at his own thirty seven, and then he reaches, he lunges to get to the thirty nine, and the ball pops out and goes out of bounds. Okay, well, no problem, gets the ball back at the thirty seven.
Let's say they're at the later in that drive, there at their at the you know, the plus forty three yard line, and the receiver catches the ball, he tries to lungeon get to the forty one and it goes out of bounds. But I get the ball back at the forty three, right, and you keep doing this. Let's say that happens. I'm just trying to be extreme, right, But then when they get to the one yard line, they try to do the same thing and it goes out the back of the end zone. Oh, I'm sorry,
now you've done too much. Um sorry, other teams ball like there's no football logic to it. There's nothing. There's nothing that's that says that was what you just did, right, there is so egregious we must penalize you with change of possession. It makes no sense whatsoever. And so it you know, it is what it is. And for those of us who have the Chiefs first half, that was
just a phenomenal thing. But then, of course Mahomes gets tackled around the head with seven seven left in the third quarter and the entire game changes at that point. He left crumbly staggered. When he tried to get up, he was already hobbled by a foot injury. He stumbled as I said, we tried to get up. He was in the blue tent um. Andy Reid after the game. He's doing great right now, which is real positive. As
we look at this. He passed all the deals he needed to pass, and we'll see where it goes from here. I love when football coaches us use the word deals so stupid. You know, all the deals, all limb deals. Um. Okay. Then the end of the game. Here the Chiefs d forces the Browns to punt in the waning minutes with four twenty three left in the game. I mean, I guess they forced him to punt. They decided to punt.
Then Chad Henny Mahomes, thirty five year old backup. I mean this sequence at the end, I just have to like, Okay, let's just go through this. North of the two minute warning. It's second down, it's twenty two to seventeen. First of all the Browns punting, We'll get into Stefanski because he did a whole bunch of bad things, and I love Stefanski, but that was not his best day ashday. But second second down north of the two a minute warning and and the uh, the the excuse me? The who do
they play again? Oh? Yeah, the the Browns had no timeouts left at this point because they had wasted some earlier, which we'll get to. But read drops Henny back to pass second down at eight at the case forty one, and he gets bailed out with a sack. Just run the football and take it down to the two minute warning. But he wanted to pass the ball, Like if that's an incomplete pass and stops the clock, it's a whole different discussion what happens at the end of this game.
But he literally gets bailed out with the sacks of the clock keeps running down to the two minute warning. That's the first Andy Reid bailout. Third down in fourteen at the two minute warning. Hen he drops back to pass and I'm like, what are you doing? Just run the ball. He gets flushed out of the pocket and the hendy mad scramble for thirteen yards to get it just shy of the of the down of the yard to go over the line to uh to get the first down. The line to gain And I'm Andy Reid
just got bailed out. Andy Reid, Eric b enemy, whoever we're blaming this on, just got bailed out of two straight plays that have no sense whatsoever. Now the fourth and one pass that goes to Tyreek Hill for five yards and seals the deal. Okay, we can debate that, like you know, reasonable minds can disagree. Here's my tweet about it. Andy Reid bailed out twice in a row by a sack that keeps clock rolling than a ridiculous Henny scramble. Then gambles on fourth and gets lauded for it.
Bailed out twice though, lunatic hero. All of those things to me are true. All those things are true. And and in the end, yes, uh ballsy, as we like to say, and it worked out by the way they on fourth down. I'm just saying, if that was incomplete, God help him, you know, I'm just saying. But the second and third down play I cannot argue. I cannot debate that like that is unbelievable to me. Am I wrong? No?
But let me throw one more in there, please. The play that Mahomes got hurt, he was already hurt, his foot was he said, it was his toe, and why was he running with that ball? Now, let me tell you this, you know, just knowing from some athletes, you know, primarily the guy I'm gonna go to is Jack Lambert, Like you know, arguably the Pumpets guy that's ever played football had to retire because of a toe injury. A
toe injury. It sounds almost comical to tell you about that for for an NFL player, But your toe, I mean just think of like how much balance that you need and strength coming from your leg comes directly from that big toe. I mean, you know, like I said, it sounds ridiculous. It's not so that he had a toe injury and they're running this kid. That's when I thought. And I've been a big Andy Reid supporter and I
still am. But though you know that, that to me was the first thing, like, what the hell is he doing running this guy? And I don't know it was him or be enemy, I really don't know, But that was not that was not proper to call that at that point in the game, not at all, not at all, by the way I giggled, because to injury to Jack Lambert specifically was the funny thing to me. But but yeah, but it's like I was saying about Brandon Staley getting
hired by the Chargers earlier. Brandon Staley may end up being the greatest coach he's ever lived. I don't know. But he had Aaron Donald and he had Jalen Ramsey before they had Vaughan Miller. So I don't know. Andy Reid, if we recalled before he won a Super Bowl with the great Patrick Malomes, we would always talk about his horrific clock management at nausey. We couldn't stop talking about it.
But then you get a player like Patrick Mahomes is a cheat code and you win a Super Bowl and it's like, okay, well, yeah, Eddy Reid got close all these other times. I guess he's like the most awesome coach ever, But here he is just in a quarter and a half not having Patrick Mahomes, and like you said, may have may have precipitated it, right, whether it's him or Eric b Otomy with the worst blake all ever, and then at the end just just gets bailed out.
I'm just like, what are we watching? And so I think I just the lesson and all that is, whether it's Read or Staley or all these guys. It's like, if you've got the greatest players in the game, do we really know you're all that awesome? Or did we forget about all your flaws from before? Well that was a quick reminder. Yesterday, worked out, worked out, chat nye magic, Can I can I throw something because I know we're running out of time there, and you know, let's let's
say Mahomes can't play. You know, I'd like the bills whether Mahomes in or whether he's out. But let me just refresh everybody's memory. Andy Reid has had tremendous success with backup quarterbacks. I mean guys like coy Depp mur uh, j Feeley, Uh, you know, just go. You know, Jeff Garcia is actually a pretty good backup. But when those guys come in, you know, he has had a lot
of success. So if Mahomes is out and he's working all week with Chad Henny, you know, a capable veteran and with a ton of offensive weapons, don't sell them out too quick. Okay. I like that disclaimer. I like that disclaimer. Do you want to stay for the first five minutes because I have to do a whole Kevin Stefanski. Alright, because Kevin Stefanski, this was not his finest day either. We should probably close on the Browns. We'll do that five more minutes with Chrissy and then Adams. Oh, there
we go again. Music not approved by either New York Chrissy. There it is, alright, guessing lines with Chris Andrews. The old the old stardust font from back in the day. All right. So the Browns didn't have Jedrick Wills early and from early in this game. He left with an ankle injury on the first offensive play. The rookie and then his backup Kendall Lamb left with an elbow injury,
forcing Blake Cants to make his second NFL appearance. So the Browns were playing with a third string left tackle who had barely played and still made a game of this after the after after the Patrick Mahomes injury. But they weren't help, do I, coach, Kevin Stefanski, Chrissy. He went for one down nineteen to nine, nine UM with over nine minutes left of the third quarter to make it nineteen to ten. That was the first thing I was like, what are we doing? Didn't challenge, didn't challenge.
A DeMarcus Robinson first down catch from Mahomes on the subsequent drive early third quarter with Casey up nineteen to ten could have might have gotten reversed it was for a first down. That drive led to a field goal for the Chiefs in a twenty two to ten lead, then to seventeen first intent at the case five, Chad Henny's in. Now, Chad Henny hits Tyreek for twenty three yards right in front of stefanskin. He challenges it and it was clearly a catch that blew the Browns first
time out. They had to use a second time out later when they got too close to the end of the play clock. After that was after Hendy threw a pick in the end zone. Remember, and He's one bad pass was the pick into the end zone. So Cleveland wasted their second time out on the subsequent drive as the play clock went down to zero five seventeen left.
That's why they only ended up having one time out to barrel late, by the way, four plays later, with one time out left, that's when at his own thirty two fourth and nine with four three left, down seventeen, Stefanski decides to punt, so I mean not not exactly his finest day either. I would say, well, you know, once again, I hate to get into that. You know, every coach is an idiot, and you know that's all over Twitter, you know, virtually every Saturday and Sunday. You know,
I hate to get into that. To take the other side of it, you know, here was a team that was greatly outmatched. They had, you know, a horrible play at the end of the first half that clearly could have changed the nature of the game, and he hung his team in there. I mean, he only lost by five, you know. So if we want to go through and dissect every little thing that he did wrong, he did make some things wrong. He did a lot of good
things too. And I think I think the Browns, you know, listen there in Pittsburgh's division, and you know, I as a Steeler fan, I'm gonna have to face these guys a couple of times year. I think they got the right guy in place, you know, and we, like I said, we cant nitpick and uh, and you're not wrong. And one thing you said, that's particularly they're not going for two.
I didn't understand that one at all. Uh. But overall, he did a good job for the year, and even even yesterday, he kept them in the ball game until the very end. I mean, if and he doesn't make that fourth doub pass, like we just said in the last segment, you know, they're down five, I got it and getting the ball back with with you know, a couple of minutes of play or whatever it was. Um, yeah, they had a chance to pull that game up. So yeah,
he made some egregious errors. But overall, I think this guy has done a hell of a job this year, and I haint to knock him for maybe one game or a couple of questionable things, uh, you know, when a couple of decisions that he made that I would disagree, definitely would disagree with. But overall, a phenomenal season for him, And that's why I couched this thing. Not his finest day.
That's why. Also we highlighted Sean McDermott and how awesome he was last week, Right, we do both sides of this, how present he was late in that game using his time outs, how he basically saved his team or tried twice to save his team with time outs and was successful. I would argue with the second one against the colt So and I think the reason that you end up doing that is because we're all betting on this and there are so few coaches, ultimately, uh that have the
presence of mind. I mean, was it Belichick, McDermott, and I don't know who else, but but Stefanski certainly a fine year. I understand your your broad reaching point. In the end, I like Green Bay a whole bunch, and I don't know about Buffalo and Kansas City till I know who's playing quarterback. How about you? I like Green Bay a whole bunch, and I like Buffalo. I don't
care who playing quarterback. I think right now Kansas City, as you know, danced around these close games for a couple of mon now, and at some point I think it's gonna bite him in the ass. And I think it's gonna be this coming Sunday. I think Buffalo goes in there and beat him. It's a numbers game at vast in the sports betting network, Gil Alexander, Chris Andrews, NFL. I appreciated it. It is always on Monday's with guesting lines. Christy Camp, thank you enough, Oh my pleasure, jil my pressure