Beating The Book: 2024 NFL Week 16 Guessing Lines Show

I'm not sure it'll be anything more than slim pickts today, but we will see what we can get.

there are fifty entries left. Intrinsic value of each of these fifty two hundred and eighty five three hundred and twenty dollars five of those almost got refereed out by the UH in the Washington Commander's game. It's so into imagine if those five people had lost on that, which we'll get to.

a little drama. It's Chiefs that Steelers Ravens at Texans on a Christmas Day, and then it's Seahawks and the Bears Thursday Night Football. That week, but we still got to get through week sixteen before we get to that. But that's you know how they say Saturday is moving day at the Masters, that will be moving day if you will in Circus Survivor. So that's where that stands. You ready to get some lines, Let's do it. Let's do it. For week sixteen in National Football three or

four weeks left Hill hard to believe. It is hard to believe Will Hill was here. He's like, I can't believe it's week five already. He always does, I can't believe it's week six already. Well we're here.

There's fit within five the first five weeks of these of this NFL season, ninety eight point four, or five percent of the entries were gone. We forget how amazing it was. It was insane. Okay. The opposite is case after week eleven after week, excuse me, after week ten, one hundred and five entries were left. There are fifty left. And keep in mind we had a Thanksgiving yeah, and we got through Thanksgiving. Yeah. So here we are, all right,

let's get some lives. Let's go to thirty. Thursday night Broncos at Chargers was a Chargers Broncos beat the Colts. We get to the point of the season. We don't linger on some of these games too long, but it was one of these where the Colts. There was a key point in this game, in case you missed it, and this is becoming an epidemic of the NFL. Colts started out with a nice ten play seventy yard drive ar dime to Josh Downs on third and ten for

twenty two to start at the drive. Seven plays later, he ran it in from twenty three to seven to nothing. Broncos came right back, but Nicks was picked bo Nicks picked by Zayir Franklin. That led to a Matt Gay thirty seven yard field will tend to nothing Colts. A couple drives later for the Broncos, they went fifty four yards Nicks to Adam Trautman from thirteen out ten to seven Indianapolis. It would be thirteen to seven Indianapolis at

the half. And here's where it gets a little nutty Denver third play of the third quarter, opening drive, Knicks picked again by Samuel Womack. The third let me just say this little Offensive Rookie of the Year break on this. It's over. It's all over. Bo Nicks three picks yesterday, Jade and Daniels just sort of doing his thing. It would take an epic set of circumstances now for Jayde Daniels not to win the Offensive Rookie the Year. Agree or disagree? Agree?

fumble through the end zone touchback. So instead of twenty to seven or twenty one to seven, have they chosen perhaps to have gotten the to have tried the two point conversion and converted it either way, that would have been a two score game. Instead it remains thirteen to seven.

Denver third and tent at the Indianapols thirty nine. Don't worry though, bo Nix throws another pick, this time to Nick Cross Indianapolis first play in suing drive, they give it right back ar to Pittman. He's tackled by PJ Lockey, fumbles recovered by DJ Jones. Denver doesn't do anything with it, but they do get the field goal to cut it to thirteen to ten. Then after a Mims sixty yard punt return. How many great plays is Marvin Mims Junior

make on on special teams? They're set up at the Indianapolis fifteen second play, Nicks to Nate Adkins for fifteen seventeen thirteen. Denver takes the lead early fourth quarter, and then second and seventh at the Denver forty Outonnam Mitchell adonai Ahad looking to throw it back across the field,

picked in full stride by Nick Benito. It's actually ruled the latter in a fumble in the in the in the box score, as it should because it's a backwards But you ever see somebody make that play where they're in full stride on defense. That was unbelievable. Yeah, And as Scott Hanson accurately said, on a red zone, he goes Nick Benito then grabbed his Benito's on the way in and got flagged for that. But nonetheless it's a two lead, two score lead for Denver twenty four to thirteen.

They would go on to win it because ar would throw another pick to us or ten severely underthrown. They go on a win at thirty one to thirteen. Denver wins with only one hundred and ninety three total yards of offense. Why because the opponent, once they get to the end zone flips the ball and decides not to score. God bless, who's Indianapolis? Who's Denver playing? Again? Charge Chargers? And the Chargers get just destroyed by the Buccaneers. Did you have this game going this way?

up up seven points. This is late second quarter. They decide, well, we're not going to roll out Cameron Dicker for a sixty yardfield. Well, that'd be crazy. We punt it. So that was the end. That was the That was the the high point of the Chargers in this game. Up seven, with the ball in Tampa Bay territory, they couldn't do anything with it. So starting from there, here are the

rest of the Chargers drives in this game. Three and out, three and out, punt, the rare Justin Herbert pick, turnover on downs, four and out, another turnover on downs heineke in, and a fumble by Stone Smart. That's the rest of the game for the Chargers. Meanwhile, Tampa Bay is just scoring points the whole time. Mike Evans with two huge plays a one to a fifty seven yard touchdown pass to put the Bucks up twenty to seventeen, and then later Mayfield to Evans from thirty five out to put

them up thirty to seventeen. They'd win it forty to seventeen. The Chargers out gained by the Bucks five oh five to two oh seven. Yeah, the Buccaneers are just flying to the win in the NFC South, as we said they would a few weeks ago given their schedule. Yep, I've got the Falcons ticket. It's been tough to watch. Yeah, it happened.

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during the Jamus years. Though they called it, they were sort of called him red Lightning because there was a couple famous highlights through those years of him, Like you know when you see the every once in a while, like the ball guy running running stride for stride with like the running back who's going into the zone. He was that guy like chugging along going crazy. Yeah, Red Lightning man.

happened in the NFL. I don't understand it. I wish someone could tell me why it's important to the players to drop the ball as soon as they break the plane. What's wrong with waiting until you're three yards into the end zone? Bro, I call you bruh. Charleson Connecticut totally agree.

to learn our next Yiddish word? Think we have all a googled machugar After the four thousand time of hearing that, Bro, love having you back. Thank you. Jeff C. Spackler welcome back to my morning show. Let's try to make it into work more often. It messes with my mornings. I wander gillless through the betting week. I'm sorry about that, Seaspack Brian Shaffer. Gill is the music for Guessing Lines the same as the music for crack Man. Sincerely, Steve Feszick.

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to a sacked by Will Anderson Junior. Tim Centle recovers set up at the Miami twenty twenty eight, Houston leads to Stroud across the body, touchdown past Nico Collins, ten to three Houston, It'd be ten to six, and then Houston first and tend their own forty nine. Stroud fumbles, Jordan Brooks recovers. Miami then at the Houston thirty eight. They returned the favor second and sixth at the Houston thirty nine to a pick by Kaylin Bullock didn't see him.

He returns at sixty eight yards to the Miami five with thirteen seconds left in the first half. They do have to settle for the field goal, though no game by an incomplete pass, so Fairburn twenty three yard chip shot thirteen to six Uston at the half. Houston then in punt formation fourth and two at the Miami forty four first drive of the second half, they faked darhe Ogunbawale for thirty five yards. Two plays later, strived to Collins from six out twenty to six, and Miami was

in ketchup mo of the rest of the way. Sanders thirty four thirty yard field goal was good, but they wiped that off the board and Miami converted into a touchdown to John new Smith, great pass by two of

twenty to twelve. They missed the extra point, so a good decision to wipe that field goal off the board, and then Miami had so many opportunities to get back in this They had a fourth and fourth of Houston thirty four with twelve forty four to go two at a John who for nine, but then three plays later to a picked again by Derek Stingley Junior, with ten

thirty four to go. Then they had a three and out, and then they took over at their own twenty three with one forty four to go, still down one possession, eight points. First play to a pick by Stingley again, ballgame twenty to twelve. Stingley's so good, so good to a just for a guy who doesn't who is you know, accurate with his passes? Not his best performance, yes, not not at all.

Cleveland not having opportunities. Cleveland with six turnovers in this game, turnover differential of minus six. That'll do it, and you only lost by fourteen. First drive of the game, Kansas City, they had a three and out, but on the ariz upon James Brochet fumbled at samaj p Rhin recovered. Three plays later, mahomes the juju from seven out seven and nothing. Cleveland. A couple drives later they had a first and dead the Kansas City thirty six. Here was their first turnover.

James picked in the end zone by Brian Cook. By the way, if you watch that play, Elijah Moore of the Browns just as kind of laying down watching the pick happen, Like the pick happened in the end zone. He's just kind of like, yeah, well that happened. The same dude, remember in the Denver in the Denver primetime game, the Denver Cleveland primetime game, where he left the receipt where he let the interception just happen. The pick six happened. I don't know if I really caught that. Yes, so

he remembered. He was lolly gagging out of bounds in that one. This one, he was just chilling in the end zone on his back. He's like, I guess he's not returning it. Kansas City fourteen play, eighty seven yard drive Mahomes to Grave from six out. That would make it fourteen to nothing Cleveland after Jerome Ford forty five yard kickoff return set up at the Kansas City forty nine four and out wincid in complete on fourth and one, and then Butcker would miss a twenty nine yard field

goal before the half. I note that because Butcker does not look good with that leg, like that plant leg buckles first first week back. He made the extra points, but this is a chip shot and his if you look at his left leg, it's like painful to watch. So fourteen to nothing at the half. Uh, And then it was just the turnover fest Cleveland. First play Jamis

to Chubb. Did you see this pick deflex off Nick Bolton into Chubb's chest, Chubb can't corral and then somehow Bolton strips it on the way down for the pick. That might have been the play of the day. Awesome. Yeah, that was amazing. That led to uh, you know, set up at the Cleveland thirty four to four plays in Mahomes to Worthy from twenty one out twenty one to nothing, Chubb with a fumble. Later I'll go through the rest

of Cleveland possessions. Fumble punt two play drive which was great play Jerome Ford sixty two yards just with the after burners, just turning the corner on everybody. That made it twenty one to seven. But then Cleveland punt jamis pick, let's see DTR and that didn't go anywhere, and then DTR ultimately picked. So it's just again plus six in turnovers for the Chiefs. They win at twenty one to seven. Is that's their widest margin of victory of the year.

And they are twelve and one, twelve and one or thirteen in one, pardon me, thirteen and one thirteen in one. And that's their biggest win in terms of margin of the year. Now here's the thing, Patrick Mahomes. A big story of this game, though, of course, is that late in this game, when it was you know, twenty one to seven. This is in the fourth quarter, Kansas City fourth and three at the Cleveland thirty nine. They decided

to go for it. Mahomes incomplete intended for juju. Mahomes gets up, slowly limps to the sideline his right ankle the word is not broken, but just really sore. He was unclear whether he'd be available to play this coming Saturday against the Texans. Quote it's hard to say right now, unquote from Patrick Mahomes. So if he plays, I'm gonna say they're a four point favorite. If he doesn't and it's Carson Wentz, I'd say they're a three point dog.

How about that we get tweets and beating the book. I was appreciated. Who by hoops? We know red Lightning and Kelly aren't the same person. Red Lightning didn't tear his hand, didn't tear his hammy catching the field goal. Very true, Hoops by hoots can't be the same. Great point, I do not have near the athleticism of Red Lightning. Jason H. Eleven, Welcome back, Gilly. Kelly did a great job in your absence, as did Todd Wishnev with the megapot. But it's nice to have an adult back in the room.

Just kidding Kelly, not kidding Yinzer, that's Todd Norman Vegas. Do you realize that the four NFL teams playing this Saturday, then flip opponents for the two Christmas Day games. Yeah, that's what I was just referred to with the Chiefs. Anyone asks Santa for a Netflix subscription so they're not stuck watching yawn regular season NBA on December twenty fifth, Norman Vegas taking a shot at your league. I mean, this is another issue for me. Gil.

lost all the rest of the games. They end up ten and seven and Tomlin still gets the thumbest nose at everybody Well, Gauntlet Champola and I still got to test the tes. They got it. They just got beat up by the by the Eagles yesterday three to nothing Philly. Philly had a third and four at their own forty three hertz of the ball poked out by TJ. Wattre covered by Beanie Bishop. That's set up well. No, Pittsburgh was set up at the Philly forty five. But they

went three and out. Then they had a punt, but then Cooper dejen fumbled the return recovered by Nick Herbigs. They had to settle for a Boswell thirty seven yard field goal. It's like three to three and the already two turnovers for the Eagles at that point, but still just a three to three game. Philly then goes six plays seventy yards Hurts to Brown for sixteen and twenty to start the drive from five into the end zone

and at ten to three Philly. Next time they got the ball after a Dejene twenty three yard part return set up at the Pittsburgh forty five. Nine plays Hurts at DeVante Smith from two out, seventeen to three Philly. Pittsburgh would answer a seventy yard drive Wilson Friar Booth from nine out to make it seventeen to ten. It was seventeen to thirteen at the half, seventeen to thirteen at the half, then it was twenty to thirteen midway through the third quarter. And here's the key of the

game here. Pittsburgh Wilson to Calvin Austin for thirty one to start the drive. But three plays later, first and ten at the Philly twenty six. Remember they're only done a touchdown. Najee Harris just loses focus on a pitch, just lose folks on the ball, unforced Eric fumble which is charged to Russell Wilson, by the way, which is

just awful, recovered by Darius Slay. And that was kind of it because Philly then goes thirteen plays seventy four yards, hurts in from one twenty seven to thirteen Philly first minute of the fourth quarter, and then Kelly fourth and eighth for Pittsburgh at the Philly forty seven with ten ten to go, you're down twenty seven to thirteen, and Mike Tomlin opts to punt the football. Yeah, Philly starts at their own three and just milk away the clock.

Pittsburgh would never see the ball a game, ball again, ballgame Philly twenty seven, Pittsburgh thirteen. And this is not armchair quarterbacking because in the moment we were shooting text back to each other. It's like he's punting at the same time. What an incredible drive Toad in the game over ten minutes, but just kneel it out at the end, brand Philly thing. Ever, Ye, Philly outgains Pittsburgh four to h one to one sixty three.

the one they won by two points. They have allowed almost twenty seven points per game in the eleven games he hasn't played. So there you go. That's the TJ. Watt story. Gotta follow that. Baltimore beats the Giants, no surprise there. They did so though with five touchdown passes. Kind of count them five. I don't even want to go through the details of this game. It's no point five touchdown passes for Lamar Jackson. I just want to

talk about the MVP for US for a second. Lamar Jackson with those, by the way, they outgained the Giants four forty five to two thirty six. Lamar was twenty one of twenty five for two ninety five touchdowns, no picks, six carries for sixty five yards. He did lose a fumble. His passer rating, which is out of a total of one to fifty eight point three, was one fifty four point six. On the season, Lamar Jackson thirty four touchdowns

and three picks. That is the fifth best ratio of all times previo currently by the way, plus seven fifty at Fandel to win the MVP. That's the high mark seven to one in other places. Lamar Jackson this year is passer rating. Remember this is the old school passer rating. Out of one fifty eight point three. His passer rating this year is one twenty point seven. If that holds, it is the fourth best passer rating of all time. Plus seven to fifty at Fandel to win the MVP.

He is also possibly possibly, although he's a little off pace for this, possibly could get one thousand yards rushing. Yeah, plus seven to fifty at Fandel for MVP seven to one. Consentsus.

Guess right you did. By the way, you know what the second closest was.

two thousand and nine when Ingram beats Gerhart. So again, good bet that I really thought that morning had a shot and apparently it did. It just doesn't quite get home. So file that away in the numbers game history of the What is it that one Soto one hundred to one which finished second was a Max my Man from TCU Max Duggan finished what is one hundred to one? We had him at So another great bet that doesn't go by the wayside. But back to Lamar, which is

the point of bringing that up. This feels very second placey.

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beating the Buck. I alway appreciate the feedback Guy This is from Brian M a numbers game pros guessing lines, increasing Cagle sales cons spelling particular promos we didn't spell sools. I guess correctly, I messed it up the first time. Yeah, Joe C seven one four.

I think these are major problems for the league. Joe, I love you. Here's my problem with this argument.

super Sonics before he played for the Celtics. They used to have a conversation walking the ball up the court, right, They literally would have a conversation. That's how slow the game was at that time. I'll tell you one of the he probably doesn't go this far, Gill.

the same beauty on the basketball court. So I hear what he's saying. This is sly Brie. If it was legal for the TV talking, he has to say anything other than Tomlin never had a losing record. They would tell you that Tomlin quit on the game by punting on fourth and seven, as you say, in Eagles territory, because the Steelers clearly had trouble stopping the Eagles. Colin Murphy, take a look at Jonathan Green and defensive player of the Year fanatics has five hundred to one how much

they canna let you put on that. Colin yet to play to night against a bad Bears O line and his stats are right up there with Hunter, Watt and Bonito. This might be the most misprice the wordline I have ever seen. He says, Buddhist man grabbing the Benitos aka the Marshawn needs to not only be grandfathered in as a perfectly legal celebration, it should be also encouraged as the as it guarantees the player carrying the ball over the goal line. It's a very good point, that last

one right there, Las Vegas, five one four yo. Not only did Rigo just flip the ball to the reps, he also towed Supreme Court Justice Sandra Dale O'Connor, loosen up, Sandy Baby, Washington legend, welcome back. Do you know that story? No, I don't know that.

They're gonna have the first pick in the draft and it's probably not gonna be Shador because Shador doesn't want to play for them, He wants to play for other Raiders of the Cowboys. So this is starting to feel like cam Ward maybe your number one pick in the trap. Oh we were talking about that? Who is I talking about? Being Ben?

into the end zone. The ball went into the end zone, Jonah Williams recovered it just before it went out the back of the NZL, but that wasn't an unforced one. So anyway, Cardinals win that game handily thirty to seventeen. Although I will say this that was a horrible beat for Unders players because it was a flurry of touchdowns at the end in that game. Yeah, it was twenty one to fourteen. Excuse me, what was it? No, I'm

wrong game it was? Was it twenty three to three with ten minutes and thirty nine seconds left in the game and it ended thirty to seventeen. So Unders went to die Buffalo in what was supposed to be the marquee game of the day yesterday, Buffalo just destroyed Detroit. The final score doesn't show that, but it kind of did. Buffalo first, they got the ball after a three and

out for Detroit. Seven plays seventy three yards, Alan Tid Johnson for thirty three, the big chunk to Johnson for twenty four later on third and five, two plays later, Allen in from one seven to nothing. Buffalo, then another Detroit punt after Goff got sacked twice. Buffalo nine plays seventy eight yards, Alan to Cook for twenty eight to start, Allen in from four to end it fourteen to nothing

Buffalo with two minutes left in the first quarter. Detroit would get it to fourteen to seven, but Buffalo immediately answers back nine plays seventy yards, including a fourth and second conversion at their own forty nine, Allen to Tid Johnson for thirty one. Three plays later, Cook in from

six twenty one to seven. Detroit would then have a ten play seventy yard drive which included a fourth and fourth conversion of their own to Saint Brown for twenty one and a Goff ten yard scamper on third and ten. Eventually Goff to Dan Skipper from nine out twenty one to fourteen, but Buffalo first play in suing drive Alan de Keon for sixty four. They tacked on a rough in the passer, so half the distance. So now Buffalo is up seven. This was the moment where you thought

Detroit might get back in it. Buffalo was set up at the Detroit three. Cook for one to Curtis Samuel for one, then a false start Allen and complete, and after a lengthy injury timeout, Bass missed a twenty four yarder and it remained twenty one to fourteen at the half. But then Buffalo started the second half the way that they left off. Four play seventy yards, cook in from forty one, twenty eight to fourteen, he got to thirty five to fourteen, and then it was just kind of

cosmetic from that point forward. But I do want to point out the big thing because because after the Detroit Packers game, after the Packers Thursday night game, I went on this whole rant Friday morning about how I don't think Dan Campbell knows what he's doing with these decisions, and as a guy who loves going for it on fourth down, I just think he doesn't. There's not a tactical thing, and I know he has a staff telling him what to do, but he's the buck stops with him.

It's his decision, and I just think he goes forward because he's like trying to live up to his reputation. He doesn't know when to and when not to. Well, yesterday, at thirty eight to twenty eight, with twelve minutes left, he declares that I do declare an on side kick, and Matt Collins caught an instride, took it thirty seven yards of the Detroit five. They end up scoring again

forty five twenty eight. What are you doing calling the on side kick with twelve minutes left, you have all three time outs, you're only down two scores ten points. And for those who would come back and say, yeah, but you know they couldn't stop Buffalo, so I get it. Well, the smoking gun for you then is when they got it to forty five thirty five, they should have done it again and they didn't. So that proves once again to me that Dan Campbell is just kind of off

the cuff with all this stuff. I mean the other part of it too.

bills two times in addition to converting their possessions. Thoughts, it sucks that they had to declare they actually got a nice bounce that almost got tipped forward. Yeah, but Jeremiah, that's the thing. It's such a small percentage of the

get through. But again, I'll make my point that I made very quickly in the last segment, which is if you thought that that was okay, then what then you must have been disappointed when they didn't do it the next time down ten, because then it makes no sense to me, right, And that's why I get to the point of what I said before about Dan Campbell, which is I don't think he's doing anything based on any kind of mathematics or plan, right, He's just doing it

on this this vague feel thing which I said, you know, the day after that that primetime game against the Packers. I can just see it getting them again in the playoffs, and remember it got them last year against the Niners.

Keith Kingston, who was at the game, says, I thought about you as I'm sitting at the game and the Lions announced onside at twelve minutes, remaining worst decision by the Lions since former Lion head coach Marty Morningwgg deferred in the overtime kickoff in two thousand and four to take the win at Soldier Field. Happy hanukah that by the way, he shows us his view, amazing view of the He had great seats for that, he said. He

also added as as call Campbell. Dan Campbell later said he regretted his decision, and in the video you can see Campbell's reaction standing in front of the camera crew. He just looks down and probably is thinking to himself, oh man, not much of a physical reaction. This is from This is from I want to continue with these. Thank you for all the tweets. This is from Michael Burns. Wish I had live footage of Toddy sweating that Arizona under.

He actually texted he was bragging about his Arizona under and you know what happens when you do that prematurely. Djen Southern Jed Jayden Daniels is quieting all the Cliff Kingsbury sucks in the second half of the season critics, and for that alone, he's the Rookie of the Year. Discush. Eric berg Gill is about to experience the Yokich losing to Embiat MVP experience. Just seems no one wants to

acknowledge Lamar after he won it last year. Yeah, the Yokich wanted to be clear was that they didn't want him to win three in a row, which is a legendary NBA thing only done by three others. Edward Perez, let's go back to that Dan Campbell question from a few weeks ago. Like you were saying, I think he's answering the question for us every week, what's next week sixteen? In the NFL, we haven't really found.

Did you catch when it was forty eight? Let me get this right. It was forty eight to thirty five, Buffalo forty eight to thirty five, just north of the two minute warning. Campbell, with all three timeouts, wasted thirty nine seconds not calling a timeout when Buffalo had the ball. Just we're not gonna need those thirty nine seconds. And by the way, Detroit ends up scoring in the closing seconds to make it forty eight forty two. Even if they get the on side kick, it would have to

be a hail Mary situation. You don't think you could have used those thirty nine seconds, Dan Campbell. He was making mistakes, not just it wasn't just the on side kick. That little moment will get washed away as well. I won't let it. And the only other thing I want to say, is that Tony Romo on that onside kick he did the whole like it was like vintage Romo was like Buffalo recovers. It's not annoying at all, Buffalo recovers.

to four and two to four and nine. Detroit, by the way, still controls their destiny in the NFC North, but so to do the Minnesota Vikings. Now Minnesota Vikings, including tonight's game, they've obviously got to win tonight. Both teams control their destiny now because the Vikings play the Lions the last last week of the season.

Cincinnati at the half, lev Is picked by Gino Stone to the house to make it thirty one to fourteen, and then Tennessee first and tend the Cincinnati thirty three Pollard, tackled by McKinley Jacksony fumbles. Jordan Battle recovers it sixty yards of the house, except at the doorstep he had just the in his hands for no reason and fumbles out of the back of the end zone. What is happening in this league?

that we'll have. That'll have to live through what's next.

come back. How many more games? We get a bunch of more games to get to, right, Yeah, we do three, six, eight, We'll get to them. We'll do it, guessing line. So the Browns, sadly is the one I like the best so far? You yes, you as well?

That's a reference to Tony Romo that I was busting on Tony Romo. I don't know, Jim, I don't know. Buffalo recovers. I gotta pay that video during the break bop c D show one three seven regarding the NBA, how about a mix of athletes being athletic? Kelly's argument and just stop the flopping and everyone's spinning their little fingers in the air and crying after every call. I grew up loving the NBA. I can't watch these grown babes. Oh that one's tough. Yeah, I can't argue with any

of that. Three Jack h three one three one. Thanks for the Wayne Brady reference. Made me laugh. On what's not been a great day? We were so close on that Heisman bed no way, Lamar beats out Josh Allen though at this point. Glad you're back in the saddle this week. Thank you very much. By the way, if Lamar Jackson and the Ravens win the AFC North, sure, there's still a path. We're not dead if they win the AFC North, a tougher division than the AFC East.

By the way, yes, where the second place and third place place teams are definitely better than the other teams second and third place teams.

Last segment? Apparently not? Jets ramped the Jets Rams. Oh, by the way, Rams won that slog of a game on Thursday night in the rain in San Francisco, and the Rams are eight and six, looking good in the NFC West. Right now, Kyron twenty nine for one o eight. They held San Francisco to one hundred and ninety one total yards on Thursday. The Jets beat the Jaguars yesterday.

Not much to say about this game other than when it was seventeen to six, it was sixteen to ten Jags, and then the Jets go on a seventy yard drive. This is late third quarter Rogers to Davante from one out, one hundredth touchdown of Adam's career seventeen sixteen Jets four thirty three to be accurate left in the third quarter. A couple drives later for the Jacksonville Jaguars eight play, seventy three yards, Max Jones to Brian Thomas twenty two

to seventeen. Jag wires two point try fails, ten to fifty eight left in the game. Then Andrews Carlson misses a forty eight yard field goal drive after Rodgers threw a dime to Lazard that got broken up, and Rogers had to put his hands on his helmets and let everybody know that it wasn't his fault and there was a receiver's fault because his past was so great, so

I interpreted it. Jets, next time they have the ball, four plays, eight eighty seven yards Rogers to Davante from seventy one out, what a play, touchdown twenty three, twenty two, and then to Davante for two twenty five twenty two, Jets three, twenty four left. Jacksonville comes back cam Little forty three rd field will to tie it one fifty one left in the game, twenty five to twenty five. Jets third and ten at their own thirty Rogers to

Davante swing for twenty three. Jodasy amazing catch, third and five at the Jacksonville forty two. Rogers to Davante for forty one. Kind of looked like he didn't know if he should score or not. Did you see that at the end, Yeah, he was like I'll drop down here next play bries In for one didn't matter thirty two to twenty five, and then Jacksonville third and won at the Jets forty seven Mac picked by a sauce ball game.

Rogers sixteen for thirty for two to eighty nine, three touchdowns, Davante nine for one to ninety eight and two touchdowns four Jets fans, Yeah, they gonna watch a game like, Hey, there's the Jets offense. Looks pretty good. Rams by four on the road at the Jets Rams three and a half.

one sixty three. And then there's the DC Skins. You're a Washington Commandos taking on the UH. Jake Hayner led Saints UH Washington first time with the ball. They settled for a field goal, but a unecessary roughness penalty on the Saints extends the drive, leads to a ridiculous Daniels scramble and throw to the incomparable one Terry McLaurin sixteen yards in the end zone. What a catch? What a pass? Seven to nothing? Skins?

I mean the Commander Seaton. Do you remember after the first couple of weeks when I said they really should introduce Jayden Daniels to Terry McLaurin, because remember the first two weeks, he didn't even know he was there. It was a great running joke for a couple of weeks. It well, it turned out to be good anyway. It gets a seventeen to nothing. Rattler comes in for Hainer for the Saint seventy one yard drive six plays. Rattler to Valdez Gantley for thirty nine sets ups, Cedric Wilson

to Kamara from twenty went out seventeen to seven. Kamara fourth player ever, fifty rushing touchdowns, twenty five receiving touchdowns. Then Washington Greg Joseph. Who's their fourth kicker of the year. Yeah, it really was five. Brandon McManus was signed in the off season. They had off the field stuff and they had to cut him. So they've had four kickers this year.

This is a poor tent of things to come. The refs didn't notice that the the game clock had expired in the third quarter, so they were like, oh, doesn't count that you missed it. We forgot the third quarter end. This was a part of this game. I did not catch third quarter ended. So he got a redo to begin the fourth quarter and he sunk the field goal. So twenty to seven Washington. This is all a poor

tent of things to come. Grupe hits two field goals to cut it to twenty to thirteen, a forty one yard at a fifty one yarder with six fifty seven left. Then Washington ends up up seven points. Now fourth and one at their own forty five. Jayden just gets the one yard that extends the drive. They end up with the New Orleans thirty six. Pardon me. With two minutes left, they're up seven, fourth down. Joseph, do you kick the field goal here a fifty three yarder or do you

just pooch punt it? Washington decides, even after seeing that Joseph missed that forty one yarder that didn't count, they decide to kick it, which I think was a terrible decision. In the moment he misses it wide right, so New Orleans ends up taking over it their own forty four with one fifty five left, down seven. That's the move. You're right, no, Hainar, no Kamara. Kamara was out with a groin injury at this point. I think Kamara's battled through nine in and still puts up THEMB Yeah, one

timeout New Orleans have. They get it to the Washington fifteen. They lose two yards. They use their last timeout with thirty eight seconds left. They're on the seventeen yard line, nine yards Juan Johnson over the middle. The clock runs then incomplete, so it's fourth and three at the Washington eight with seventeen seconds left. They need to get in the end zone to Foster Moreau for seven yards to the one yard line. First down. The clock stops. Remember

they have no timeouts. The clock stops because the official on the bottom of the screen running up is waving his arms in the clock stop motion. It stops for a couple beats, maybe about three seconds exactly, for no reason whatsoever. Rattler goes to the line of scrimmage. She spikes it with three seconds left. The game probably should be over instead, he goes to Moreau from the one touchdown twenty to nineteen, and they decide. Coach Rizzy says, we're going for two to win the game. Two point

try five survivor entries on the line. Washington teasers screwed Rattler here Rattler incomplete intended for Johnson. The survivor entry survived ballgame. Washington wins twenty to nineteen. In a series of events that should never have happened, should never happen.

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an official Perhocuy himself quote mistakenly stopped the cluote. Absolutely unbelievable, And Ed Zarowski tweets at me he said, uh, inexcusable, and it's why betting the NFL is as Gil says my Sugarn, the officiating crew, Sean Hockeyley just admitting, Yeah, it's a total mistake. The only explanation, and by the way, I was watching it live right, I saw the clock stop and I'm screaming at why is the clock stopped? Why?

The only possible explanation I could have come up with in the moment was that official thought that Bobby Wagner was lying on top of Moreau to a point that he thought he was delaying the game. But that never came up. They never they never said that. I didn't see that enough, but it was we were talking about

that pre show. I think great point by you, because you're right, how there's not many other reasons that you could think of of why that guy would think he should have to stop it, And they never said that. Jeremiah Westgate tweeting back, and he says, stop claiming John Riggins as a redskin. He's a Jet. I watched him through the app days to the Mohawk days. He's ours Skins. Claiming Riggins is the same as the Jets claiming Curtis Martin. You need to stop, You just absolutely need to stop.

That's the worst argument I've ever heard. John Riggins will forever be identified as a Washington redskin. I get it. He had his Jets years, Torch d Gilla, you gotta chill on the Dan Campbell hatred. I don't hate Dan Campbell. I'm just pointing out when no one else is willing to, because everyone slurps Dan Campbell all day long on Sundays

like he's just this unbelievable thing. I think he makes the I think he makes a higher rate of questionable decisions than almost anybody Toeorched goes on to say he wasn't brought there for analytics. He's the leader of men. That team is ready to run through a brick wall for that man, and I do not think enough can be said about that factor. The calls will tighten up in the playoffs, well, you're more optimistic than I am. I think the calls will continue to be questionable his calls.

And the other part of that is how much do you want him to tightened up? You know, if for the if for the majority of the season things have worked, when he's done it, I don't know if I want a guy going to the playoffs completely changing out he's coaching a great point, because then if he loses it that way, people are gonna murder. Yeah. Yeah, Eddie Moush Saints game. What happened to the officials keep the keeping the official time that wristwatch thing. Yeah, uh, Tony Farmer.

Of the seven survivors who have Kansas City left, six of them could pivot to Pittsburgh if desired because of mahomes injury, and the other could pivot to Seattle have desired. Nobody has only Kansas City available for Christmas. I will just say this about that again. He's talking about Circus Survivor again. Fifty entries left, fifteen or on the vikings tonight, whoever's left Christmas, which is you're gonna have to get through one more weekend, this coming weekend to get to

the Christmas quirk that Christmas. Those six teams, I will repeat again, there is not one comfortable pick among them, even if well, if Mahomes doesn't play, okay, that gets a little more comfortable in that game. If Gino doesn't play, it gets a little more comfortable, but not comfortable enough. But you'll get to that game because man di's Sam Howe. Sam Howell looked like you didn't even practice. We talked about practice. You need to show up at practice, Sam

how All right, what's next? Cardinals at Panthers Cardinals we barely talked about because there's no point. They beat the Patriots Cardinals in the mix in the NFC West at Carolina, Carolina, I thought I had Carolina in this game. I couldn't have been more wrong. Bryce Young with a little bit of back to being Bryce here, yeah there. This was the first time in thirty four games that the Carolina Panthers were a favorite. Did you know that? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, Well care I guess what they lost?

thought Carolina might get back in this game. Ten to nothing. Dallas has a third and one at the Carolina fourteen with forty five seconds left, they're knocking at the door again. You think they're gonna go up seventeen to nothing. Rush fumbles werecovered by DJ Johnson with forty two seconds left, and then Carolina first played Bryce to Jalen Cocher for eighty three ten to seven Dallas, and you're like, oh, Dallas gonna mess this up. They're gonna lose this game. Nope.

Third quarter they just dominated. First play Bryce sacked by osa Odeguzawa, fumbles Chauncey Golson recovers. Dallas set up at the Carolina twenty nine five plays, rushed to Jalen Tolbert from eleven out. Next time they had the ball, rushed to Jalen Brooks for seventeen beautiful pass twenty four to seven. The route was on thirty to fourteen Dallas four ten to two, thirty five total yards advantage, Carolina minus three in turnovers. I will say Arizona minus three and a

half at Carolina four. God okay, next vikings at Seahawks. Ikey's played tonight against the uh The Chicago Bears fifteen survivor entries on the line for that one. This is going to require two different lines, just like the Chiefs game, because if it's Gino, it's one thing. But if it's Sam Howe, good God, do you see that game last night? Fourteen to nothing Green Bay before you could blink first two drives, that just dominated. And they had Chris collins

Worth being like, here's a guy. He was like, wow, Chase, so he's watching the two thousand and seven Patriots fourteen to nothing Packers. They dominated. By the way, Jordan Love was great in this game. He's awesome. He was great. He's a gunslinger.

got rolled up on. By the way, Green Bay won this game, thirty to thirteen. There's not much to say about it. It was complete domination. Gino didn't return after taking a low hit from Edrin Cooper. This is when it was twenty three to six. Seahawks coach Mike McDonald said Smith's knee appears to be intact structurally, but his status for next Sunday's game against the Vikings is up

in the air. And so I think the line here is it's either Minnesota minus six on the road, or it's probably like Seattle minus one and a half split the difference if it's Gino.

until he's been awesome. Man. Yeah, I just want to go back to green Bay here and in the last few seconds of the sement though, and just say this again, see by the way, Seattle's toast if they don't have geno hate to say it, and green Bay. If I were to ask the question of any error guests, who's the non obvious team? So you take Detroit and Philly off the board in the NFC, and you take the Bills, the Chiefs, and I don't know the Ravens off the

table in the AFC. Who's the most dangerous playoff team? I think the Green Bay Packers are the Packers.

at beating the book mile high. David Inferior Boll says, if only it was the National Brick Wall League, I'd be all in on Dan Campbell. He says, Okay, I like that. Jason Stark, welcome back, Gil missed you last week. Steelers are still going to win eleven games for my prediction, for my prediction a few weeks ago. All still going to plan. Hey, Jason Stark, man, anyway you slice the Jason, It's been a good year.

I don't dismiss what you're saying. I mean, this is the thing for people who like, if I say anything negative about Buffalo, they go crazy to say anything the negative about Detroit. Detroit fans go crazy. I say it about my team, right, we said it all year. Washington and Houston. I will put those two teams together. Washington and Houston are the proverbial, you know, ninth or tenth best team in football. They are exactly what they are, right.

They beat every team, or they consistently beat the teams that are worse. I know there's an exception here and there, but consistently beat the teams that are worse than them, and consistently will not beat the better teams. And you know there's a ceiling for both of them. They both will probably get into the playoffs, and they both at the most, at the most probably not but the most will win one playoff game. So we get that about

those teams. So there's really defined levels to this team to these teams this year.

You know, Jayden's been great. He's the rookie of the year I think for sure. But again, the Packers are probably a level above those two teams Washington Houston in my opinion, but the Packers are at level below the elite Minnesota though two year point Birdie bets They're the team I do have trouble with. I can't really get behind it, but I hear what you're saying. They keep winning and that's the name of the game. So like

at some point you are what you are. I mean, I mean, change out the quarterback.

Pardon me, Miami outgained them two twenty four to one eighty one, but the minus three in turnovers sunk them. I'll say, Miami minus three. This is Dolphins.

Jerry Jones up in the box just loving life. It's like, okay, Jerry, still live. Tampa Bay minus four. They are gonna win this division. Baby, you are all over it.

Interested in the Saints is another game though, Like I'm not interested in the Saints out time of possession yesterday forty minutes and fifty seconds to nineteen ten, as the officials tried to give them a game yesterday.