Beating The Book: 2022 Week 5 NFL Guessing Lines Show with Chris Andrews

should be okay. We're happy to have you. Though if we're guessing lines, we do an Oscars preview, but they will say that for another day. Understood from you. We appreciate a man about town, Brian, or take it with us, and of course the star ladies and gentlemen of guessing lines. My mishka, Christie Andrews. How you doing man? You good little rough rough day? Yes, you guys got beat up? Which were the which were the major are culprits that

got you yesterday? Well we started a poorly with the Minnesota New Orleans game falling three because we had tons of money both ways, but you know the way we handled the three well, and we had a Lake push on Minnesota, which actually helped a little bit, but a lot of money line play in Minnesota, so that hurt. That was a bad one. The Bills and Ravens falling three, that one hurt. But I can go up and down the line. I mean when there were it would be a lot easier to tell you the good games. But

I'll tell you some of the bad ones. Um Chargers was bad. Lions losing to the Seahawks was bad. Uh, Cowboys beating the Commanders was bad. Arizona beating Carolina, Green Bay not not covering against New England was bad. And then capped it off last night. The side didn't matter. We had a good action both ways on the side, but the total destroyed us. Everybody that was almost over at that It was over in the first quarter and

it was fourteen three. I mean, you have no chance with these two quarterbacks at this isn't gonna become a shootout. So that's it. Lights off its south point after the show today, that's it. Yeah, we can see there's a barricade's up. I would say, you know, really, number one, don't ever cry for the bookmaker. And number two, Uh, you know, when you're in a position like mine, it really and I've compared this before. It's like a relief pitcher or a cornerback. You are gonna blow the game

or the day whatever, You're gonna blow it. That's inevitable. I don't care who you are. You just lick your wounds and come out the next day. And you know, stayed up last night and tried to do my homework and oh, I think you do. Oh, I think you'll get it back. I think you'll be funny ladies, gentlemen, this is guessing lines for a week number five and it goes a little something like this, you got the

coolest insure willing then you do. I was gonna do two hours of Atlanta Braves Radio this morning because I've that pumped about it. Oh dude, you got to win the division right, many many many times. We will. We will get into that tomorrow with Kelly guessing lines for week number five and we'll go as if you're new to this show, what we do every Monday morning, Christie and I and we couldn't do this without Christy, Like

you can't substitute anybody in for Christie for this. Um, this is something we have done for the better part of a decade. Actually, guessing lines has existed for more the decade. Christy and I have done it for almost a decade together, and it's really a tribute to the old Stardust radio show of the same milk back in the day with Roxy Roxborrow. I don't know what the lines are. I've been at a cocoon since last night.

I was all baseball focused anyway last night. And uh, Christie will let us know what he posts at the south Point at the end of this show. He hasn't put up anything yet here. Nothing is bettable until we do this show, so we always appreciate that. And we start with Thursday Night, Brian Ortega, what do we have alright? Thursday night? We have the Colts at the Broncos. Colts at the Broncos. Colts lose to the Titans yesterday. Mattie Ice him for three fifty six, two touchdowns, one pick.

He was sacked three times, lost the fumble his eighth of the year, most the most, I should say by any player through the first four games of the season since Kurt Warner in two thousand and six. That's not good. Jonathan Taylor forty two on the ground. Boy, this is not the year for Jonathan Taylor. Not the year for the Colts. Ali Cox six eight five, two touchdowns. He was Ryan's biggest target. They were out game, or excuse me, they out gained Tennessee did the Colts three sixty five

to forty three. But no matter when you're minus three in turnovers, the first two of which are Ryan fumble and Ryan interception. Lad to short fields in fourteen Titans points and then down twenty four to seventeen. Let this be the first we do this segment on the megapod called the Dumbbell of the week for coaches. Let this

be the first candidate. Down twenty four to seventeen, the Colts have a fourth and twenty one at the Tennessee thirty three, with two oh four left, all three time outs in pocket, and Frank Reich opts for a Chase McLaughlin fifty one yard field goal, which has no prayer. The split second it goes off his toe and the Colts never see the ball again. I'm not sure what

you're doing there. Denver loses to the Raiders. Josh Jacobs right for a career high a hundred forty four yards two touchdowns against Denver yesterday, Meek Robertson returned a Melvin Gordon bumble sixty eight yards changed the tenor of that game, put up put the Raiders up sixteen to ten at the time. Anyway, late in the first half, Raiders beat the Broncos thirty two to twenty three. Denver repeatedly failing to take advantage of good field position in this game.

They scored only once did the Broncos on six drives in the second half, but that one drive did cut the Raiders lead to three, so we're still in play late, but the Broncos couldn't stop Las Vegas on the subsequent drive, as the Raiders engineered at ten place seventy five yard drive cap by a Jacob seven yard run that would steal the deal. After a final Broncos fourth down try

went and complete. Russell Wilson in defeat seventeen five two thirty seven, two touchdowns, no picks, back three times, four carries for twenty nine yards and a touchdown. The Broncos could only muster twelve first downs that it twelve, so it's the one two in one Colts against the two and two Broncos I don't think I can make it a full three. I will say Denver minus two and a half. Okay, bingo first one. I like your number better a little bit little. My numbers come to exactly

two and a half. But I do see pretty solid three out there. Um really see one three with a little tiny bit of juice on the favorite. So I think three is probably a good number. I don't know Greg Doyle, if anybody reads him, he's in the Indianapolis starts behind a paywall. Um, but he's a very good writer, covers a lot of different covers a lot of subjects besides just sports. But he talked about the problems on this Colts team, and he follows the team really closely.

A lot of offensive line problems, which was something they didn't expect this year with Clinton Nelson being kind of the anchor. Uh, you know, fumbling and turnovers. You know, Maddie Ryan Um I said last week, I was like on the megapon, I was like, would still surprise anybody if they won the division? Everybody was like no. Now I would ask the same question. I don't know that everybody would say no. Well, one guy said, are we sure the Colts now all of a sudden have all

their problems solved. So that was one of our few good games that they did better strongly on the Colts. So that was one of our few good games we needed. Tennessee pretty good. But anyway, I am going to open three. I don't want to mess with this game right now with the two and a three stuff, you know. But we'll see where this one goes. Colts were by one uh one circum millions loss. I was on the Colts as well, laid the points sharp, guys were Let's go

to uh let's go to Sunday. I know we have a London game, right again, that's correct, Yes, we have a London game starting in nine thirty Eastern time. Six Pacific Giants against the Packers Tottenham Hotspur. All right, I don't have much to say about the Giants. They beat the Bears twenty to twelve. Daniel Jones eight of thirteen, eight of thirteen for seventy one yards. That matches justin fields eight completions with a victory. Earlier this year in

Week one, someone broke that later. We'll get to it. Fewer completions with a win, but Jones eight of thirteen for seventy one no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once. Six carries for sixty eight yards and two touchdowns. Dan Jones was knocked out of the game, though did come back as a decoy later, as was his backup to Rod Taylor, who was concussed. Taylor was one of three for eleven yards, no touchdowns, one pick, was not sacked

in his brief time in the game. But se Kwan was everything for the Giants, thirty one carries a hundred forty six yards. Giants only mustard seventy one passing yards in this game, but two hundred sixty two rushing yards against the the Bears. The hapless Bears lost both quarterbacks, as I said, but led twenty twelve laighte Bears muff to punt. Looked like the Giants had salted away with a Gano thirty seven yard field goal, but he missed, and then the Bears last ditch endless lateral play failed.

And then there's Green Bay. Oh my, what a game. Aaron Rodgers first half against the Patriots four of eleven for forty four yards, no touchdown, one pick. He was sacked once. He had an eleven point two passer rating in the first half. That's at a one fifty eight point three. By the way, that's the old school passer rating eleven point two in the first half of that ballgame.

Ben Valin, who u who writes, by the way, the Patriots had a ten to seven lead at the half, because part of that was a forty yard pick pick six by Jack Jones for the Patriots that put the Patriots up ten to seven at the half. Ben Valin, who writes about all Boston sports, He said, if Aaron Rodgers through every pass directly into the ground, his rating would have been thirty nine points six. His rating at

half done was lemon points two. Rogers ended up, ended up though twenty one of thirty five for two fifty one, two touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once. Aaron Jones sixteen carries for one ten lazard, six catches for one sixteen, four hundred forty three total yards for the Pack, one nine rushing, but so much drama. Fourth and one at the New England eleven sixteen left in the third quarter, opening drive of the third quarter, they go for it

and convert on a pitch out to Aaron Jones. Three plays later, Green Bay had taken the lead fourteen to ten New England first and fifteen at the green Bay twenty five four fifty nine left in the third quarter, a good second and a half after the play clock went to zero, Bailey's appy to Davante Parker seventeen and fourteen New England. By the way, at first, I was like, that's two and a half seconds, but when they showed it from behind the quarterback behind Zappy, it's about one

and a half seconds. Still ridiculous that that play wasn't whistled dead fast. Forward to the fourth quarter, the Packers facing third and eight from New England forty two o eight left. Rogers throw was deep to a diving Romeo Dobbs in the right corner of the end zone. Dobbs gets passed. Jonathan Jones caught the pass, but the ball slipped out of his hands after he landed. It goes

to overtime. Some excellent clock management by Belichick. At the end of regulation and after New England stopped green beyond the opening drive of overtime, New England had the ball at its forty AT's forty nine yard line, only needing a field goal, but Green Bay forces a three and out, and what ensued was at twelve place, seventy seven yard drive culminating in a Mason Crosby game winning thirty one

yard field goals time expired. Green Bay waiting to kick the field goal with four seconds left was risky and certainly risky for all those survivor players who had the Packers forty four point five percent of the tire pool? Man was I rooting against that? I got green Bay minus ten? Here we're both way off. How's this one? Um? I see it? Eight pretty much a blanket. Eight numbers coming to six and a half. You know, I had

the seriously downgrade green Bay. I know there were three and one and they'll probably win the division, but they are not there yet. No, I mean they are far off. Um No, I'm not saying the praises of the Giants in any way, shape or form. By the way, I love QBR, I love to talk about it. There's some things that are crazy by QBR. You know what Daniel Jones QBR was yesterday. Let me get his stats. He was eight of thirteen for seventy one total yards. Don't

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appreciate that. This is let's see here. This is from Do to Do Do Do Do Do Do Do a lot of braves, a lot of braves tweets this morning. This this one is from Matthew Mayberry says, yes, enough guesting glides, Let's go braves talk. Chris House dear Gablly twittered you like Muddy so do I uh gil could show you the analytical way to do it on on numbers game. Treat yourself, don't cheat yourself. That's what I was always taught. I really appreciate that. Everybody's very kind.

I hope everybody jumped on the braves with us again the Magic Numbers one. So it's not done yet, but we'll get there. Guessing lines, and the one thing I want to say about guessing lines this year, I have had some really bad guesses, bad when it comes to Monday morning, but that has been a really good north star to follow because the lines have generally come my direction this year, which is which is not the case most years, I must say, right like, it's usually hasn't

been this good. Now we're only four weeks in. Catch me in another four weeks. This could be disastrous, right, But so far, so good, and um, people have really responded to UH, to the show and your insights this year as well. You wanted to say one more thing about the Giants, Well, I'm gonna say, you know, QB ror something I like to look at. Not that I religiously believe in it, but I'm just saying it's a

different way to look at things. Daniel Jones eight of thirteen for seventy one yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions, qb R point three. What And I mean they put twenty points on the board, you know. I mean, I guess he gets elevated because I don't think he fumbled yesterday. Well he scored. He scored two touchdowns on the ground. That counts. Yeah. Well it's all what did that quarterback do to participate in the victim you know, or not do? Anyway?

Yeah he did do that. But anyway, my number comes to six and a half. I really downgraded green Bay and I always gave him a strong home field advantage. Probably the strongest in the league. I downgraded that too. I mean, this team is just not right yet. And I said this in the beginning. Talk to me in December, I think they'll be fine. First of all, the weather in December, I think will really help green Bay at home. Uh. I think by that time you would think Rogers is

more in sync with his receivers. This team just isn't right right now. I thought, you know, I'm looking at my numbers, and I thought six and seven. And I mean, I could certainly see seven, but to me, seven would be a take. It's eight everywhere. I don't know. I might open seven and a half and take a hit. I'n't think about it. I am way high on that. But yeah, I just don't think I leave the Giants. I certainly don't think the Green Bay Packers are all

that good either. Let's go to US Sunday early window now after the London game. Alright, So first game on Sunday, well, first of the games here is Steelers at Bills one in three, Steelers three and one. Filth. I thought like this, you know, uh, the Steelers lose to the Jets. Were you aware of that, Chris? They lost to the Jets. Yet what happened, Uh, the Jets went in Pittsburgh for just the second time in franchise history. That's hard to believe.

By the way Steelers benefit for the Jets, roughing the passer penalty on what would have been the final play of the first half, Chris Boswell sunk a fifty. You are to cut the deficit to ten to six, and you thought to yourself, Okay, Pittsburgh's back in this, they'll win this game. And then Kenny pick It enters the game for Pittsburgh in the second half, and every inser goes crazy. I got so many texts from my friends.

Forget about we'll talk about that. At fourth and one at the Pittsburgh thirty one twelve thirteen left on the third quarter, down ten to six, pick Its sneaks and converts and the crowd goes wild because Mitch Drabinsky couldn't have done that. Chrissy two plays later, first pass of his career as a pick downfield basically a punt keep playing on a subsequent Jets drive, third and six of the Jets thirty Wilson Zach Wilson that is picked by

Minka Fitzpatrick off a deflection. Three plays later, pick It sneaks into the end zone thirteen to ten Pittsburgh. Because Drabinsky couldn't have done that. Chrissie subsequent Pittsburgh drive, pick It caps it off with a two yard touchdown run twenty ten. You know Mitch couldn't have done that either, Yes, he Kenny could have done all of bit, but then with a third but then with thirteen thirty left, down twenty to ten, the Jets Zach Wilson engineering eleven play,

eighty one yard touchdown drive It's twenty to seventeen. Then pick It fumbles. It was recovered by his teammate Jalen Warren,

though fumble luck. Next play second in fifteen at the Jets thirty five three three thirty four left in the fourth quarter, pick It overthrows for Friarmouth, picked by Michael Carter the second, and then the Jets go on a ten play sixty five yard five first down drive in which Wilson went five for five for fifty seven, showing up three minutes and sixteen seconds, capped by a Breefe Hall two yard plunge with eighteen seconds left twenty four

twenty Jets win Forbiskie seven of thirteen for eighty four, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked three times. Pick it ten of thirteen for one twenty no touchdowns, three picks, sacked zero times. Six carries fifteen yards, two touchdowns, picking

six for one oh two receiving. But the Steelers, excuse me the Yeah, the Steelers were minus two in turnovers and the one in three Steelers now oh and seven all time without injured star outside linebacker t J. Watt head into the most of a goal part of their schedule, riding a three game losing streaking with the franchise now in the hands, we think of a rookie, Oh Buffalo? Is that the other two Buffalo? Sorry about that? Forgot

how the show works. Josh Allen nineteen of thirty six in the Bills come from behind win against the Ravens twelve, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked once, eleven carries for seventy yards and a touchdown. The Bills had a thirty eight minute to ten twenty one minute and fifty second disadvantage in time of possession. They were down twenty

to three. They come back and win it fourth and one at the Baltimore ten and forty left to the third quarter, down twenty to ten, they s chew sh Christie the forty three yard field goals temp Allen rolls out to the left, he ad libs gets four yards. Four plays later, Tyler bast thirty nine yard field goals

twenty to thirteen. After the Bill's force a Ravens punt nine play eight yard touchdown drive capped by Alan eleven yard touchdown run to knot ed up at twenty to twenty, and then they keep play the key sequence candidate for Dumbbell of the Year or Dumbbell of the Week are

it's your boy, John Harbaugh. Starting with thirteen thirty eight left at their own five yard line, the Ravens go on a fourteen play ninety three yard nine minute, twenty nine second drive and with four fifteen left in the ball game, tied dip tied up at twenty on the Buffalo to fourth and goal, Baltimore decides to go for it and it's picked by Jordan Poyer in the end zone, his second in as many possessions. Buffalo drives the field from their own twenty after the Harbor decision, aided by

a horrible roughing the passer penalty. On that final drive, chip Shot Bass Tyler Bass twenty one yard field goal to win it twenty three to twenty. By the way, not without drama, because all of Baltimore's defenders won on the same page. On first and ten for Buffalo at the Baltimore eleven with one fifty left, they weren't supposed to make a tackle. They were supposed to let the Bill score a touchdown. All on the same page, except

for O Dafeo, who tackled Singletary at the three. Baltimore only had one time out left, and at that point we're helpless. That's what Marcus Peters was losing his mind about on the sidelines. You might have seen that drama. So Pittsburgh at Buffalo, this is gonna be a monster number. Buffalo minus thirteen, I won't make it two touchdowns another beingo square to fill in diminishing returns. You haven't said

that yet. This year, my numbers come to seventeen, and that's too high, But fourteen is the number, and I think that's probably a good place to start. That's where I'm gonna start. But like I said, my my power ratings do come to seventeen. But again, the diminishing returns, which we like, I don't think we've used so far this year. I think it's just a little too high for this game. I think the Steelers probably try to play as conservatively as they can with Kenny Pickett in there. Listen.

I mean, at this point in time, you have to think it injects a little juice into that team, a little juice. I don't know if it's enough to carry the day in Buffalo. I kind of think not. Um, But you know, on the other side, I mean I still think Buffalo is probably the best team in the league. They haven't played that great the last couple of weeks. I mean they struggled yesterday. You know. Um, the Juggernauts

status has sort of diminished. That we were talking about undefeated, you know, waltzing to the Super Bowl, blah blah blah. I mean we're not nearly There was anybody talking undefeated really well, that's pretty oh yeah, well, I mean you have to listen to some VSPN shows, which I always have the TV on in my office, but ye oh yeah, some guys were talking about undefeated. Um, I think fourteen is a good number, though, that's where I'm gonna start. We'll make up a game here coming up in this

subsequent segment. Let me just follow up in a couple of days of this game one horrible I know, besides Belichick, he's your guy. No, that was a horrible decision. I mean, how do you not go up three? And his explanation afterwards made no sets either. No, you know, talking about analytictric, analytics and metrics, and I'm thinking, there's there's no, there's no. I'm not sure what the book you were following. By the way, that's my biggest pet peeve. When people do

something it's wrung. There's analytics. Yeah, that's not analytics, dude, you just you botched. Yeah, you made that thing up. You know, it is what you did, you know, I mean, And I heard guys afterwards saying, you know, if the coach just said I went with my gut, yeah, I

could go with that, you know. Yeah, but don't don't give me the analytics stuff, and do you And I've said this last week, and you could tell I'm I'm sort of I'm of the I'm of the belief that Traubisky could do no, he could do no, right, Yeah, after the first two games. Yeah, it didn't matter what he did. Oh, it's Trubisky. Do you really believe that this is the move they should make to pick it right now? And almost like they didn't have a choice.

And again, let me see what the QB are for Trabisky was horrible and rightfully so seven point five yesterday. So it was bad. Well there's that. Well come back, I gotta make up one guessing lines on a Monday for Week five National Football League, It's a numbers game Vista these Boards Betting Network, the Numbers game on Sports Betting Network. The NHL season is almost here and our

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we didn't have the nights. Of course, hockey was nothing, and now it's I was like hockey because it wasn't a big decision every night. You can root for whoever the hell you wanted to. Now we got some big decisions at night. Yeah, not a lot expected out of the nights, by the way, this year, that's the consensus. That would be my consensus. Yeah. What is next, sir? What do we got Brian or tell you ready? So we have the Chargers going to Cleveland against the Browns

Chargers one of my survivors hit it Pawn Point. Chargers were way up though yesterday against Houston twenty seven to seven, way up. And then as the Chargers do well, that lead just dissipated. Houston scored seventeen straight points to get within three with about eight and a half minutes left. Charges then put together at twelve play eighty four yard drive, though capped by an Austin Eckler fourteen yard catch and score to put the game away and snap a two

games set. Chargers look great early, scored five on scored on five of their first six possessions to build that twenty seven and seven lead by halftime, despite Herbert dealing Justin Herbert, that is, with the rib injury team playing without Joey both with the groin without Keenan Allen Herbert thirty nine for three forty two touchdowns, No Pixie was

sacking once. Eckler carries for sixty yards too touchdown, six catches for forty nine yards in a touchdown Mike Williams seven catches for one twenty Chargers had a four to it their own forty five with five twenty three left, nursing that twenty seven to twenty four lead, biggest player of the game, they go for it and they convert on a twenty one yard Herbert to Eckler pass and run. Five plays later, the game clinching Eckler score and then

there's Cleveland. Cleveland loses. Remember we started we set at the beginning of the year. All those first four games, they made it so easy for Cleveland. Well, in the end, they end up two and two after those four games. With the Jacoby Brissette at quarterback, they lose to the Falcons. Jacoby Brissette thirty five or two thirty four, no touchdowns, one pick, he was sacked once. Nick Chubb nineteen carries for one eighteen yards and a touchdown. They out gained

Atlanta four oh three to three thirty three. They out time of possession if you will, Atlanta thirty five sixteen, but they gave up two under two rushing yards. Cleveland had a fourth and three at the Atlanta four scoreless game ten twenty eight left in the first quarter, opening drive of the game. They went forward and they failed. Then they had a fourth and one at the Atlanta thirty nine twelve thirty five left in the second quarter, down ten to nothing, they went for it set kept it.

They converted eight plays later it was ten to seven. But in the end, third and twenty three at the Cleveland FORTI six down twenty three to twenty. Brissette was picked by d Alfred ballgame. Falcons win at twenty three to twenty. I I got lazy here. I called this a pick between the Chargers and the Browns. My numbers come to three, and it's a blanket three in favor of whom the Chargers. Wow. Yeah, I would not have thought the Charges would be a full three point favorite here.

Charges do have their problems. You mentioned you know Bosa who is definitely out for a while, Keenan Allen. I'm not sure what his status will be for this coming week. They have their problems. Um. I kind of quit watching that game when it was way up. I didn't think Houston had it in him to come back, you know kind of TV Well, I only got I got nine TVs and there's like two that I can't see real well, and one of them was the Charger game. So I

didn't watch it that close. Um, but I think three is a good number, and I think that's a you know, like that's exactly what my power ratings come to. I have no beef with the three. I would have thought one and a half, maybe two, and but three is sting. Chargers are just so you just can never trust them. You know, it was on a radio show I think I got in New York last year and or maybe two years ago, yeah, two years ago, and they kept that.

As you know, the Chargers just tend to do chargery things. They like cracked up. I didn't mean it really is a joke. That's exactly like you said. That's true chargery kind of things and true. What's next? Al Right? We go to the NFC North, the Bears at the Vikings. Bears of the Vikings. By the way, does that mean that I'm racing to bet the Browns? But based on that guest, no, I'm not. Bears of the Vikings. Bears are two and two, believe it or not, Vikings three

and one. The Bears loses. We mentioned to the Giants twenty to twelve. Justin Fields completed eleven forward passes, which is a monster game for him, which raises his season total of completed forward passes from twenty three to thirty four in four football games eleven twenty two for one seventy four and no touchdowns, no pit He was sacked six times, seven carries for fifty two yards, though he lost the fumble. The Bears only had sixteen first downs.

It's really all you need to know. There's not much else to say about that. And then there's Minnesota. Will you indulge me about the Vikings in this London game yesterday? And it was not the sexiest game with the Saint, but the Vikings won in spite of themselves. Kirk Cousins twenty five or thirty eight for two seventy three, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked three times, Justin Jefferson at

a monster game. He was torching Marshawn Lattimore ten catches for one seven, also had a touchdown on the ground. So let's go through some of this. The Vikings had a fourth and one at the New Orleans ten with one oh seven left in the second quarter. It was a seven to seven game, and they decided they'd settled for a twenty eight yard Greg Joseph field goal to make it ten to seven. Okay, no problem, you can quibble with that, but okay, first place. Subsequent drive, Andy

Dalton is sacked by Dalvin Tomlinson. Harrison Phillips recovers and the Vikings are in business. Now here's the thing. They have all their time outs up ten to seven at the New Orleans twenty after a first down play that ended with forty nine seconds left on the clock and the Vikings holding all three of their time outs, Minnesota uses none of them, and by the time Cousins throws an incomplete on second down, their sixteen seconds left on the clock. Then they have a false start. They're behind

the sticks. They failed to convert. There was so little time anyway by that point that they probably would have had to settle for field goal anyway. At that point Greg Joseph thirty six yard field goal, thirteen to seven. So let's just review real quick. First drive, Minnesota had a ten yard offensive pass interference on third and goal to five. They overcame in with a fifteen yard touchdown pass to go up seven to nothing. Then we talked

about them settling for the ten to seven lead. Then they botched the time outs at the end of the first half for a thirteen to seven lead, and you're like, okay, well that's got to be the end of that. Nope, continues first drive second half. After New Orleans muff punts sets them up, Minnesota ends up with the first and goal. At the three delay of game penalty, they have to settle for a field goal sixteen to seven. Oh there's more,

by the way, down sixteen to seven. New Orleans is a fourth and fourth in Minnesota forty one with six fifty one left in the third quarter. The Saints go for it and convert on a great spot that the Vikings decide not to challenge. I'm not sure if they win the challenge, but you should probably challenge that the ball was like a yard in front of where he landed for New Orleans. Five plays later, the Saints got it within sixteen and fourteen, then up sixteen to fourteen.

Minnesota has a fourth and two at the New Orleans forty seven two minutes left to the third quarter, fake punt Ryan right to Jayalen Naylor for thirteen. They convert, but two plays later, after first and ten at the New Orleans twenty three, intentional grounding on Cousins, false start back to back plays, forced to settle for a Joseph forty six yard field goal. It's nineteen and fourteen, and of course, finally it comes back to haunt them. Nine

play New Orleans touchdown drive. New Orleans takes their first lead to the game, twenty two to nineteen Eventually, if you make all of those blunders, it's gonna come back to haunt you, and it did. Third and ten. Now at the Minnesota forty nine five thirty six left down twenty two to nineteen, a complete bailout illegal use of the hands gift penalty on too Ron Matthew that extends

the drive. Four plays later, after a defensive past interference, deep Jefferson rushes it in for three yards out and Joseph misses the p a T so it's two. He made five field goals in this game, but he misses the crucial point after touchdown, so it gives New Orleans the ball with a chance to tie it with a field goal, and Will Lutts does just that with a sixty yard or with one fifty six left. Then Minnesota with a six play fifty five yard drive highlighted by

big Cousins Jefferson thirty nine yard pick up. Joseph redeems himself with the forty seven yard field goal. Minnesota looks to have won this game five twenty four seconds left. Not so fast. My friend Dalton hits a lava for thirty two yards in the middle of the field. The middle of the field surrounded by nothing but Vikings defenders. How do you let this happen? And let's from sixty one? Now, I believe this would have been the first game where everybody,

anybody hit two field goals from sixty plus. It's gotta be right. Someone could correct me on that. Let's from sixty one, upright, crossbar, double doink, bounces back, no good. And the Vikings, despite themselves, in spite of themselves, win this football game by your three, which you hated. Yeah, and you know we talked about the Chargers doing chargery things? Did do We have to have a new word, Viking e things because they did everything they possibly could to

blow this game. I'm in a couple of contests, nothing locally, but you know, the small contest with friends. My big play was the Vikings minus two and a half and not watching and then I I did not want them to win by three though, because the joint we've got murdered on that game. So I was hoping that last field going in anything to getting me off the three. I thought it was in. I really did. I did too, by the way I've said it for years. Right, we were on the betting dork on beating the book on

a numbers game. It's all planko in the end, right, this is completely this is literal planko getting off the two. You know the double plan. Right. I'll probably go high on this too, just like I did with Green Bay. But I had Minnesota minus ten. Yeah, you are high. Might not. Has come to seven and a half and it's pretty much a blanket seven out there. You know, this Bear team horrible, so horrible. I really thought Seattle was going to be the worst team in the league

at least right there. They're way better than I thought. But the Bears are way worse than I thought. Um, you know my numbers come to seven and a half, I will open seven, just I don't want to mess with that right now, and that is what I see virtually everywhere. So I'm gonna go to seven. And the Bears have won two games, like that's the amazing point. Hell have that happened? So Philadelphia ends up the last undefeated at four and oh and Houston ends up the

last windless at oh three and one. They've covered every game, though, So there's that bore guessing lines A whole bunch more on the other side numbers game, visa these Sports Betting Network. It's Gill, Alexander, Christie Andrews guessing lines for a week five in the National Football League. UM. Guessing lines has been great so far this year in terms of sort of extracting value, UM really sort of anticipating line moves.

Not sure we have one of those yet on this show. UM. But before we move on, I don't want to bury the headline. You you famous author of then one day and then one year have a third book out, a novel, A novel. What's it called. It's got a Greek title ivell foss move parentheses my brother. And if it is on Amazon right now, you have but if you just put in Chris Andrew's books, it will take you in my other two books. So you have to put in

that title il foss move my brother. But I have a pin tweet and you can order it directly from book Locker, which I'd rather order from book Locker. I make a little more money from book locker, you know, you know if you go to Amazon. Yeah, I still do. Okay, but you know, Jeff Bezos does not need a couple of bucks from me. But anyways, on it's out now unavailable and so far people that have read it. You know, I've had a few people that have read it really like it. Can you give a can you give a

sort of elevator speech? Yeah, I mean it's a guy who finds himself in trouble with some very bad characters bookmakers owes a lot of money to his father's former partner was a bookmaker. But as this former partner, his son becomes a star quarterback. Now the kid is facing his last game, a meaningless bowl game where they're big favorites. He asks, can the kid shave some points in the game so I could get off this huge debt. But a lot of things happened after that. That's just kind

of the start. It's almost like uh in Psycho where she steals the money in the beginning and you think, oh, this is gonna be the story. That it's not the story. Yeah, there's a lot of things that happened after this. But you know, the people that have read it really like But it certainly involves gambling. And we're in Las Vegas, and we're in Pittsburgh, and we're in New York and blah blah blah. I think people really like it. I

think this crowd would really like it this guessing lines crowd. Okay, I love it. My brother get it through Chrissie's pin tweet though at Andrew's Sports on Twitter. Okay, next, Brian, we gotta make up a game here, all right. We have Lions at the Patriots. We didn't talk about the Lions game yet they lose to the Seahawks forty five score Gami Jared Goffin defeat. It's such a typical Lions game. They first of all, they didn't have him on Ross St. Brown,

they didn't have DeAndre Swift. We surprised the Steelers with a number two most Pick Survivor team in Circus Survivor yesterday with the Lions, despite the injuries, had lots of people picking them. A lot of guys had the Steelers, which I really could understand because you know they're playing the Jets at home. I'm going you're supposed to win that game. Golf for the Lions back to the Lions was like Golf thirty nine for three seventy eight, four touchdowns,

one pick, he was sacked once. Jamal Williams nineteen for one oh eight two touchdowns. Hawkinson Big game eight for one seventy nine, two touchdowns Josh Reynolds seven eighty one and a touchdown. Lions were three three on fourth down. They were out gained five hundred fifty five to five twenty by the Seahawks. Dominic every missed two p e t s two extra points for the Lions. That was

in the mix as well. The Lions never led, bottom line, They never led, but they got within forty eight before allowing a huge seven place seventy five yard fourth quarter drive capped by a Rashon Penny forty one yard scamper to the house, then to forty five, but they couldn't get the ball back despite using all three timeouts on d and so the Lions lose. They followed one in three. And then there's New England. We talked about New England

losing to Green Bay. We went through that, uh pretty detailed. Brian Hoyer sustained a head injury in that game with five forty six left in the first quarter on Rashan Gary sack. That's why Bailey Zappy played most of that game. Hoyer was five of six for thirty seven yards before he left, no touchdowns, no pick sack once. Zappy ends up ten of fifteen for ninety nine yards, one touchdown, no picks. He was sacked three times. I will say New England by four, Well, this is a tough one.

I made it one and a half. I'm thinking quarterback situation. I mean, I'm interpreting at this point. I think it's gonna be up in the air all week for New England. Um, so I made it one and a half. We're kind of in the middle between the two of us. I see two and a half with juice on the favorite, three with some juice on the dog. I guess I'm gonna open two and a half here. But I have a lot of question marks. Detroit, I like New England are Yeah. I mean Detroit's defense is just so horrible.

I mean somebody said if Detroit had a bad defense, they'd be two and two. Bad would be a big improvement. I mean they are horrible. Um but I think at this point in time, I'm looking at two and a half. Although I see a lot of threes out there. I think I might take a hit at three at two and a half before I go to three. Like I said, just the question mark at the quarterback position. I think it's gonna linger all week for New England and we'll have to see if I'm on Ross and Brownard Dandre

Swift get back for Detroit among others. But that's this feels like a game New England and control, regardless of their quarterback. It wasn't you know they the whole world was on New England yesterday, which shocked the hell out of me. It really did. I mean, money line everything. I need a Green Bay to win the game. Now, that's very odd for you know what did we close the game nine and a half? Very odd for a favorite like that. So we needed him to win the game.

We needed him the cover to which you know you can see early on that wasn't gonna happen. Brian. Next, what are you got? Next game is Seahawks versus Saints. Sorry to cut you off the jip so s two and two Seahawks one and three Saints Seahawks we just mentioned beating the Lions. Geno Smith Chrissie twenty three of thirty for three twenty two touchdowns, no picks. He was

not sacked. A one thirty two point six rating. That's the old school passer rating at a one fifty eight point three seven carries for forty nine yards and a touchdown for Gino as well. We're Schard Penny though he was the man seven team for one fifty one two touchdowns. DK metcalf seven for one nine, including a tummy ache in the middle of that game where had to be carded to the bathroom. We covered all lock at six for ninety one. The Seahawks were nine for twelve on

third down. They the Lions just couldn't get him off the field and as I mentioned, five fifty five total yards to Detroit's five twenty, including two hundred thirty five rushing yards. When all was said and done for the Seahawks, they did have eleven penalties for seventy six yards. They got to clean that up. New Orleans, as we mentioned,

lost the Vikings. We went through that in detail. In London, Dalton ends up eight of nine Andy Dalton eight of nine in the first half for just fifty three yards one touchdown note picks. He was sacked twice lost a fumble. By the end of the game, he was twenty of twenty eight for two thirty six, one touchdown note picks and sacked twice. That same the same touchdown interception in sack line. Ten penalties for the Viking for excuse me, for the Saints in defeat, ten penalties for a hundred

two yards. They got to clean that up. So two teams that were penalized a lot seattlet New Orleans not a very sexy game. It's more than a field goal the last say New Orleans minus four, You're right, it's four everywhere. Come to three. It's another game where I think and actually Dalton I thought played very well. But Geno Smith, I mean he this team is better than I thought. Like I said, I thought they'd be the

worst team in the NFL. Three was his QBR yesterday, and I think that's deservedly so he was very good. He's played really well. I don't know, I can't think of another quarterback who's kind of blossomed and what's like his eighth year or something. But you know, when I said a couple of weeks ago and he had that game, I was like, I take it back to my old Washington quarterbacks, right, Mark Rippon got to hold the clipboard for three years. Stan Humphreys got to hold the clipboard

for three years. Trent Greene got to hold it for two or three years old school quarterbacks. If you sat and you you learned that way, you ended up being really good more often than not. Geno Smith, maybe we should have expected this, right because it's like he's been playing for years watching Hall of Famers, So I did not expect that. I'll be the first to tell you, but I have moved Seattle way up. A matter of fact, my numbers come to three in this game. I'm gonna

open three and a half. I'm sure they'll beat down the doors of lay the three and a half, but you know, go ahead and do it, because I think four is just too high. There's a lot of things I don't like about New Orleans and I do like about Seattle. So three and a half. Let's sneak this one in. What do you got? Brian? All Right? Next game Dolphins at the Jets three and one Dolphins extra rest, of course, with the TWA drama from last Thursday night

at the Jets who fall to two and two. Yesterday to will remember, was eight of fourteen for one ten no touchdowns, one Picks was sacked once before he had to leave the game. With that very scary episode on Thursday night, Teddy Bridgewater fourteen of twenty three and relief for one one touchdown, one pick. He was not sacked Tyreek ten for one six he Remember the Dolphins were minus two in turnovers against the Bengals last Thursday night. That went a long way towards their loss. Jets, as

we mentioned, win beat the Steelers. They go up to two and two the Jets eighties. Six teams have faced the double digit fourth quarter deficit in the first four games of the season. Only two have gone five hundred eight Dolphins and these Jets, ladies and gentlemen. Zack Wilson first half six of sixteen ninety one, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once. He did catch a touchdown pass though.

Final stats for him on the game eighteen for thirty six to fifty two, one touchdown, two picksie with sack ones first game since injuring his since injuring his right knee in the preseason opener. And remember again the Jets were plus two in turnovers. Uh, they had to, but the Steelers had four yesterday. I will say Miami on the road at the Jets, and we got to assume it's Teddy Bridgewater minus four. I don't quite I sort of like your number better. Uh, I kind of liked four.

I would like thing even like four and a half. It's three pretty much everywhere. But I do see three with juice on the favorite. I'm gonna open three and a half. Let's see what happens. Okay, all right, I like it. I think we're all cut up, Brian all caught up anyway, whatever I just said. More guessing lines,

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of the strip. So what is this? So you had a bad bookmakers had a bad day here yesterday, you had a bad day. What is Michael gone to say to you today? What does he does? He does he bust your chops on this? He can, Yeah, but I mean not in a negative voice. Oh my two geniuses, you know, me and Jimmie geniuses. What you guys do to me, He'll bust my chops. Now, I've seen him one time. I'm not getting mad to go like how much? All right? So, so Circus Survivor sixty one thirty three

entries to start the year. We are four weeks in twelve hundred, twenty two left. That's an excellent question. I did you'd think I'd be smart enough to run the percentage? Its basically about twenty percent, right, Yeah, it's basically twenty left. We're a core of the way into the season. Please, nobody out there say we're at the quarter police. Please don't say that. Please don't say it. Someone will someone,

I'm I'm just getting ahead of it. Somebody's gonna if green Bay had lost, whoah, man, I mean, if green Bay had lost, we would we would actually, if you were still alive, you would actually start to think you might win it. That's how we'd be so far down. We'd be like five hundred left or six hundred left. You'd be like, oh my god, just at the point of comparison. So four weeks in twelve twenty two out of sixty three last year, and I only have this after seven weeks because Joe Pete had just had a

record of this after seven weeks last year. Remember last year it started with four thousand and eight entries. After seven weeks last year there was nine hundred and fifty one left. So after seven last week, nineteen fifty one. After last year, one out of four thousand eighty this year, after four weeks twelve twenty two out of sixty three nine.

There you go, alright, nineteen point nine percent. Now, I will say this, just going over these games as we are, it looks like this is a bit of a return to normalcy this week, meaning there there are some there are multiple viable candidates this year, like the last two weeks were just mayhem. But of course you gotta watch this Thanksgiving and Christmas. I don't know if we're going to get there. We might not get there. We'll get to Thanksgiving. You think so Thanksgiving. I think we'll get

to Christmas. I don't know. It could be chopped. We could we have a chop before then, could be all right, what's next, Brian. We're still in the early window. Yes, we're still in the early window. So we have Falcons against the Buccaneers. All right, Falcons we briefly talked about. They end up winning. They go to two and two. They beat the Browns to twenty. Big game on the ground, two rushing yards despite getting out gained in total yards.

As we mentioned, Marcus Mariot ready for this, seven completions for nineteen yards. Excuse you, part me seven seven for nineteen for a hundred thirty nine yards. Seven forward passes in victory completed, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once. Tyler Algier ten carries for eighty four. Falcons only had one penalty, one flag the entire game that was accepted for fifteen yards. That's it. And then there's Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay falls to two and two, and I gotta

talk about the Bucks with you. They lose badly to the Chiefs forty one to thirty one. The opening kickoff of the game, Shot White fumbles it alligedly recovers two plays later. Mahomes the kelsey for fifteen. It's seven and nothing, and Casey was basically off to the races Tom Brady and defeat thirty nine of fifty two for three eight five three touchdowns note picks. He was sacked once, looking as gaunt as ever. Mike Evans eight eight cashes for one or three in a touchdown. The Chiefs held the

ball for thirty eight minutes and thirty eight seconds. Tampa had two and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chrissie had a grand total love three rushing yards. Yeah, they totally abandoned the running game, which is not very Brady like. I have to tell you they only had six carries in the whole game. I mean they totally abandoned the running game. I guess you fall behind and you have been I member.

A complete abandonment was unbelievable. Now, I will say Tampa Bay will still be favorite in this game against the Falcons, and I will say minus. I keep coming up with four's today, I'll say Tampa Bay minus four? Really, what is it? Eight? Yeah? I see some seven and a half of mostly eight. Here's me's my thing though, Okay, I'm way low on that way. Low power ratings come to eight, they do come today. Here's my thing though about this game. Tampa Bay's defense was supposed to be,

you know, the vaunted Tampa Bay defense. They got destroyed, just absolutely destroyed by the Chiefs. I don't I mean, I guess I kind of like Atlanta getting those points. You know, Atlanta is another team, been way better than I thought they were going to be. And I think it's not a team I want to race the Yeah, I mean, do we give Mario out of credit? Not a whole lot his his it was twenty nine something. Ah. I think they're well coached though, you know, I think

all of a sudden they got a good coach. It might have just a solid kind of you know, integral part of that team. Um My power ratings did come to eight. I don't want to throw on Tampa Bay's defense because they got chopped up by the best offense in the league. We'll get the Kansas City. Um but I still think they may have the best defense in the league. They just didn't show it last night. Um, But I think it's a good number. I mean, I'm not sure i'd run to the windows to take a

land in this game. Yeah, I don't know if I'm sprinting, but it seems like a lot to me. I just don't. I don't don't think Tampa Bay's all that great, like in Survival. Like I'm thinking myself, Okay, what are the teams you'd feel real confident in picking. They are not one of them. They're not one of them at all. All right, I was way off on that. What's next? Al Right, Next, we have the Titans at the commanders,

the Titans at the commodes. Do you know the Commodore is Lionel Richie Commodore's you know how they allegedly picked their band name. They went to a dictionary, they closed their eyes and they you know how you rifle through the pages, and then wherever it landed, they put their finger on it, and it landed on the Commodorees. And they say they came this close to being called the Commodes Santas versus the Commodes at the dint uh Tennessee,

as we mentioned, beats the Colts again. It was off turnovers and it was fourteen to nothing before you could blink and the Titans were on their way. Tannehill seventeen of twenty one for one thirty seven, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked three times. Derrick Henry twenty two carries one fourteen yards, a touchdown, three catches for thirty three. They were out gained by Indianapolis three sixty five to two forty three. Doesn't matter though, because it were plus

three in turnovers. But again, brutal clock management. We talked about Frank Reich electing to kick a field goal down seven late. We talked about horrorball not kicking a field goal when he could have taken the lead. How about brutal clock management at the end of the half from Mike Rabel, Tannehill took a sack. They had no time outs, They couldn't get the field goal union on in time to add to a to ten lead. In the end, it didn't come back to haunt him, but it couldn't have.

But it could have in the seventeen win. And there's the Commanders. Carson Wentz twenty five of forty two for one seventy one, touched down, two picks. It was sacked twice. Commanders were minus two in turnovers. Versus the Cowboys. They had do Cowboys had none then eleven penalties for a hundred thirty six yards. Terry McLaurin only caught two passes for fifteen yards, the incomparable Terry McLaurin. And you know what the real crime is with Washington. They're a dull

football team, Chrissy. If you're going to stink, at least be exciting like the Lions. Oh yeah, Instead, you're just dull. By the way, those black jerseys yesterday, Can we be a little more imaginative talk about Daniel Slander. He's not imaginative On Tennessee's Favorite, right, I'll say I'll split the difference between the three and zero Tennessee minus one and a half. Well, I think I'm way off on this one. And by the way, it's two and a half. I

see two and a half juice on the favorite. Three juice on the dock. I'm gonna open three. My numbers came a lot higher. And by the way I was looking, you know who I have the two worst teams power rating wise in the NFL. You're Washington Commanders and my Pittsburgh s wait worse than Carolina. Let me look at that one that might have missed that one. For me, they're actually the same with Carolina. Caroline is horrible, but I'm going to lean to the higher number here. I

even thought this game should be like four. Commanders are just terrible. Wins certainly not the answer, But I think the Titans are probably a little better than people think. Yeah, I give and I let me double check. I think I give the Commanders. I give him one point for home field advantage one and that be grudgingly. I love you, but I don't even know how you get to a point. Yeah, that's yeah. I mean I have a couple of guys

at zero. You see the Eagles. Every time the Eagles come to town like they did last week, it is overrunning in Phillies uniforms. Yeah, I don't maybe Tennessee, w what do you even overrun them? I don't know. It's not too far from d C. Not too far. I don't know if they traveled them. Yeah, I don't know if they traveled. But I think Tennessee is a little underrated. Let me go back to the Tampa Bay thing, because

I'm so far off on that guest. I love like I always, you know, one of the things I've said for this year. The reason I've done well in my picks is I've based everything on preseason convictions so far and luckily right. It just so happens that my preseason convictions were generally right this year. Often they are not, but just this year they happened to be right. Tampa

Bay is one of them. Were Now I have I have changed on right Like I always thought, Okay, well they still have this great defense and Tom Brady'll figure out a way. I don't know, man, I don't know. Like if you if you completely abandon the run, I get it, you're behind and you and you think maybe that's your philosophy at that point when you fall behind the Chiefs, But that seems to me to indicate you

also have no identity. They had, you know, the the guy they have guys banged up, but they had guys that were on the field that we're banged up. God when a who have been suspended, we're back. So I don't know, And they were playing the Chiefs, so maybe it just maybe it completely Maybe I should just throw out the game. The backtrack of second to they said how they completely abandoned the run. One thing I said

for many, many years. One thing I liked about Brady and Peyton Manning, two greatest quarterbacks certainly of that era, is that they never did a band in their run. Even when they were behind, they didn't have banded. I mean they used the judiciously. Obviously two brilliant quarterbacks, but yes, said they totally abandoned the run. Does Tom Brady just look sad to you but a little bit. You know, where's my wife? Where are my kids? We'll come back.

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tremendous numbers. Christie. We actually do the show right here live and then the numbers on the podcasts are still monster. So I'm still blown away how many people knew with that s shirt that I had on audience. I was shocked because even back in Pittsburgh, most people don't know that that's the Slippers, Penn State or pit Uh you know. So, I mean it shows you we have a lot of listeners, and hopefully many of them back in Pittsburgh. This audience

hands is dantan as Todd tells everything. By the way, the megapod which doesn't air on vicent right. The Megapod which I do with Todd Wishnevan, Jeff Parlay every week and a rotating guest. Adam Turnoff was the guest last week that is on the Beating the Book feed as well. And then a Numbers game Tuesday through Friday is on a Numbers Game podcast feed. So just know that the two football shows aren't beating the book. And then Tuesday

through Friday on a Numbers game feed. Alright, afternoon, yet no nothing last of the morning games that we're gonna do today. You have the Texans going down to the Jaguars. Did you say Jaguiars? I did say that, yet one of them? One of them? Well, this is a potential survivor. Pick I guess right. Jacksonville Houston the last winless oh three and one zero three and one against the two and two jag Wars. Houston Mills in Davis Mills in a defeat to the Chargers, even though they gave it

a run, lost thirty four to twenty four. As we discussed earlier, Mills and thirty five for two forty six, two touchdowns, picked twice, sacked four times. Damian Pierce at A Florida fourteen carries for one thirty one in a touchdown. H Texans did have nine penalties for sixty seven yards. They had a fourth and one at the charge of twenty four. With one oh one left in the second quarter, they were down twenty four to seven. They went for

and Mills got sacked. That led to a final Chargers drive in the second half that resulted in a Dustin Hopkins thirty seven yard field. Well, that's what gave the Chargers their twenty seven to seven lead, their high point lead that soon would almost completely evaporate in the second half, as we discussed, as Houston got within three before Chargers could seal it away, and then Jacksonville, Jacksonville, what do

you make this? I'm curious what you make of the Jaguarser Jaguars lose to the Eagles twenty nine to twenty one, Trevor Lawrence and defeat eleven for twenty three, eleven forward passes completed for twenty excuse me, eleven of twenty three for one seventy four two to downs, one pick. He was sacked four times, two carries for seven yards and ready for this, four fumbles lost. He didn't like that weather. Four fumbles lost for Trevor Lawrence. Every time he looked up,

he was fumbling the ball. And then he threw an interception to boot Thirteen first downs is all the Jaguars had yesterday two dred nineteen total yards against the Eagles. They were minus four in turnovers. Again, they had five, all from Trevor Lawrence. The Eagles only had one. They were out time of possession by Philly thirty fifty one to twenty nine. Trevor Lawrences two fumbles lost in the second quarter. The first was on a sack that led to the Eagles first touchdown. His second one was on

a sneak that led to the eagles third touchdown. Anyway, key play of this game, though, was the pick. Jacksonville led fourteen to nothing, then they then they Eagles went ahead twenty to fourteen, but Jacksonville had the ball driving second and eight at the Philly sixteen yard line, and that's when Lawrence was picked by James Bradberry. That led to an Eagles field goal drive twenty three to fourteen. Another Lawrence fumble on a subsequent drive led to a

short field and the Philly touchdown twenty fourteen. And then with Philly up twenty nine to twenty one. Again, what are these coaches doing? Nick Sirianni up eight fourth and three at the Jacksonville twenty one two minutes left. Kick the field goal, Nope, goes for it, fails bailed out by a Trevor Lawrence fumble on the first Jacksonville play of the ensuing possession ball game. I say Jacksonville minus seven at home against Houston. Yeah, my numbers actually come

to six and a half. I think we maybe got a little ahead of ourselves with Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence, by the way, is thirteen. We can attribute some of that to the weather and phill these defense probably had something to do with that too. Jeez, I would think it would be lower than thirty. Yeah, it could have been lower anyway. I see seven with seven with juice on the favorite or seven and a half. I even see some seven. I'm gonna open seven flat. Let him lay

it to us. And I was wrong by the way. I said the Texans had covered every game they didn't cover. Yes, chef forgot it. I kept my mind. I was thinking they cut it the three. But the team does play hard and they keep it close. And I give Jacksonville. I think I give them half a point for home field advantage, so not much. So I'm gonna open seven. They'll probably lay it to me, and that's okay. I don't mind having Houston going for me here in a

underdog situation. So what do we have so for like we had Greenen Bay, Minnesota, Jacksonville are going to be big survivor place this coming week if you have them left. Of course, a lot of people used green Bay yesterday, that's for sure. All right, what's next? They go to the afternoon, Yes, we go to the afternoon. We have the forty Niners against the Panthers. Alright, forty site unseen. They play the Rams tonight. I have the Rams in a bet and I have the Rams in circummillions tonight.

I thought the wrong team was favored guessing lines a week ago. So San Francisco at Carolina. So we won't talk about San Francisco because they have to play. But Caroline loses to the Cardinals. Who we got to talk about. Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield and the one in three Carolina Panthers. He was twenty two of thirty six and defeat yesterday for one seven, one touchdown, two picks. He was sacked twice. Baker Mayfield is six ft one inches tall at least

that's what he's listed at. I'd like I'd like to stand next to him. I want to see if he's six one. He had five passes batted down at the line of scrimmage yesterday. He's had an NFL high eleven passes batted down this year. By the way, Sam Donald eligible to come off injured reserve this week. I just want to point that out in case they make a quarterback change. Donald is available. Caroline has only touchdown in

the first fifty five minutes of the game. Came when Frankie Luvu intercepted Murray's pass, returned at Kyler's pass, that is, and returned at thirty three yards for a touchdown to give Carolina seven nothing lead early in the second quarter, and that was pretty much their highlight. Christian McCaffrey eight carries for twenty seven, nine catches for eighty one in a touchdown what all of saiden done. Carolina only had eleven first downs against the Cardinals. They only had two

twenty total yards, forty of which were rushing. They were two of ten on third down, They were one of three on fourth. There were minus two in turnovers. They had three. Cardinals had one and again if you will. They were out. Time of possessioned thirty five. There's a fourth and one at the Carolina thirty nine, ten fifty eight left in the first quarter, scoreless game. McCaffrey was stuffed six plays later. Arizona fourth and one at the

Carolina ten, seven thirty one left. First quarter, ron Dale Moore on an end around destroyed by Brian Burns. They just kept making errors in the first half, both teams up seven and nothing. Arizona botched a fourth down with a snap that went way over Kyler Murray's head, resulting in an incomplete pass on this on uh you know, trying to make something of that play. Four plays later, Carolina gave it back on the Mayfield fumble dis change. So the first half was just ridiculous. Carolina led at

the half. Second half, it was all all are Zona fourth and twelve with the Carolina thirty six four the Panthers ten to ten games six minutes left in the third quarter. They had a fake punt that Johnny Hecker Heckler completed down field for it would be first down, but it took too long. He took too long to throw it. Lineman released ineligible receiver downfield penalty negated that

Panthers just couldn't do anything right. And then fourth and inches, and this is when it was over fourth and inches, down ten at their own thirty one mayfield and shotgun chrissy ball batted out of the air by Zach Allen. That was his third past defended Zach Allen. That is Matt rule. Here is your Carolina Panthers stat. Everybody. Once again, Matt rule is now one in twenty six when apponent

when the opponents scored seventeen plus points. Let me just tell you this while we were doing the megapod the other day, because I had never really verified this by doing it myself, I just took their word for it was one of twenty six. I didn't believe, so I went back. It's actually oh and twenty four in his last twenty four when the opponents scored seventeen BLUs points. It's just I mean, that's the most incredible stat in

the National Football League. And basically the handicap is if you think the opponent's gonna score seventeen, roll with it. That's what I did yesterday. By the way, we want to get to Arizona. Something else will happen on the show. But anyway, Carolina, I mean I put a place holder at San Francisco minus four and a half already on the road, it's five pretty much everywhere I had this number like six and a half. I know San Francisco can't score, you know, that's their big problem this here.

They can't score, but their defense doesn't give up anything. Yeah, and I'm kind of like, you'm surprised there's money showing on San Francisco. It's really kind of a steam game. We talked. We talked about this with Adam schurt Off last week on a megapod and with Drew Dinsy here on a numbers game. The market is always funny with the Niners, always week after week, and Drew even pointed it goes it's a year after year. Now it's been a couple of years. I don't know why that is

with the Niners. Yea, I think Shanahan and a lot of ways are really smart. Coach. Um is that the head coach? Yes? I think that's some thumb things too along the way, you know, Um, I see some things like slivers of brilliance, I guess something like that. But then other times like, I'm not sure what he's doing. They really can't score. But that being said, Caroline is bad. I'd like it high. Um, I see a solid five. I think I'll open five and a half just to

see if anybody wants a bite on that. But I think after the game tonight, especially the Niners do win and they are kind of a steam game tonight, I think this number goes up. Caroline might be the worst team of football very well. Might be. Four more games get to, including the prime time coming back the Numbers game. Sports Betting Network Football season is in full swing case you haven't noticed, and for everything you need to know

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South Point sports book Hotel Causino. Who do you guys need tonight from a bookmaking perspective, right, you need the rams. I'm on your side. I could use that for millions. That'll give me to a four and one week. I need to bounce back after last week, two and three last week kind of. But salt in my game. As they say, it's hard. I mean somebody's gonna picked seventies

some percent. You know that's a hard it. It is hard, and it is like you look at the way these games sorry I always call them play go right, but you look at it. You to win one of these contests, let's just say, to win, you've got to have all the coin like all the coin flip games go your way, just because somebody is going to do that. Somebody if you have a big enough sample size of people of entries, it's going to happen just randomly, mathematically, to one of them.

Now that the funny thing is is that that person who ends up winning the contest thinks it's them. Yeah. Yeah, And I vow to you, if I ever won this contest, I would be the first person to say it ain't me. Try to I'll tell this story real quick. I had a statistics professor in college, and he told us about his statistics professor said, I want your thing is. I want you to flip the coin five times and chart how many times comes up heads your tails, and it's

gonna be five percent of your grade. And everybody would come in and he goes, okay, y'all got fs okay because nobody did it five hundred times, because I could tell by all your random two heads a tail, then three tails, and nobody. Somebody's gonna have like heads in a row. Somebody's gonna and not want of you did that. So you all got enough for that, so he told us, and I always remember that, Yeah, something crazy is gonna happen.

That's just the way life works. Now, Now there were those who have won the contest that would argue, no, uh, the coin flips are only the sixty of them is a good handicap. I would put that percentage lower in the NFL, like I really would. If somebody's gonna get thirteen heads in a row, Yes, somebody's gonna do it. But we still fight the good fight and weak a week. We still look to make money, and so far, so good. I don't know. Maybe I'll feel differently by the end

of the year. Maybe, but they will be like it is me. It's absolutely me. You know. I've talked to guys that will even tell if you're a sixty percent handicapper, you're not taking enough chances like that. Fifty eight percent is like the sweet spot because you're not taking enough chances if you're only a sixty percent. That's one guy's theory. I don't know if it's true up, but that's one. Let's go to uh final afternoon games. Yep. So the next game is going to be Cowboys versus the Rams.

Cowboys versus the Rams. Cowboys beat the Commanders yesterday. Well, it used to be the greatest rivalry in sports. Chrissie Cowboys in Washington, and not so much that changed the whole alignment of the NFL. You know that to keep that as a rivalry. Twice a year, we used to you're write it did, because that's exactly right. When they shifted the divisions, they had to keep Dallas in Washington together, keep Dallas in the East, which Texas is actually famous for.

This just did. If you look at a map, not in the east. Cooper Rush fifteen twenty seven yesterday against Washington to two touchdowns. No Pixie was sacked once. See d lamb a touchdown, fifteen first downs. It's all Dallas had. That's all they needed. Two seventy nine total yards all they had. That's all they needed because they were plus two in turnovers. Washington had too. They had none. Oh, by the way, know who wants to play next week? Dak Prescott does he wants to We'll see. Jerry been bad,

Jerry Jones effusive. It is praised for Cooper Rush yesterday. It's been good. They're at the Rams that as we mentioned, the Rams haven't played yet. Rams play the Niners tonight. I will say the Rams will be you know, placeholders, six point favorites in this game against Dallas. I made it exactly six, but the numbers four and a half, I see a five and a half. Uh, I see five out there. I was gonna open five. Um. You know,

obviously we got to see what happens tonight. You know, I'm still getting on my injury report, and I don't know how Fisher it is. The doc is out for this week, probably so um. You know again, I don't know, but I think I probably have a Cowboys slightly underrated though you know they're they're they're pretty good even without dak Um. I think five's okay. Though, like I said, my power ratings come to six, I'm gonna use five. There.

I that's that's my Washington. It's the most significant. Next, al right, next we have the Eagles at the Cardinals. Catch you off guard there, Brian, Okay, a little bit, all right? Eagles four and oh last remaining undefeated. Jalen Hurts and victory. Sixteen of twenty five two oh four, no touchdowns, one pick. He was stacked twice, sixteen carries, thirty eight yards of a touchdown, Miles Sanders seven for one thirty four and two touchdowns. A. J. Brown five

catches for nine. Philly held Jacksonville as we mentioned the thirteen first downs and two nineteen total yards and they were plus four and turnovers Jacksonville had five, all from Trevor Lawrence. It's really all you need to know. Even though they spotted Jacksonville fourteen points. Boy, Philly might really be the real deal. The out time of possession Jacksonville

fifty one to twenty nine. Philly had a fourth and three at the Jacksonville forty down fourteen and nothing, one twenty one left in the first quarter, in complete pass from Hurts, and you're like, wow, Jacksonville might run away with this. Nope, fourth and goal to Jacksonville three n twenty left in the second quarter, Down fourteen to nothing, Philly goes forts scores on a Hurts run, fourteen to seven, fourth and one at the Jacksonville twelve, one ten left

in the second quarter. By this time, it was already fourteen to fourteen. Hurts converts two plays later, twenty to fourteen. They missed an extra point, and on and on. You know how to end up, and again the strange decision up eight to go for it instead of kicking a chip shot field goal to salt the game away, and the Eagles failed late up but no matter because Drevor Lawrence fumbles the ball in the first play and then there's the Arizona Cardinals hit it. Cardinals overcame another lackluster

first half. They rallied with sixteen fourth quarter points to beat the Carolina Panthers. As we mentioned twenty six to sixteen Arizon, it was one of them. We had the chargess earlier with the Cardinals. Right now, Arizona has been outscored sixty six to sixteen in the first half this season. It's like they don't wake up till the second half. It's like, guys, the game's going on. It's almost like the coach should have a better plan. It's almost like

Cliff Kingsbury might be a problem. Kyler Murray twenty three thirty two for two oh seven, two touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once, twelve for twenty six on the ground and a touchdown. Markis Hollywood Brown. Can I just raise my hand and say he's been a lot better than I imagined because he got that monster contract. Six for eighty eight in a touchdown Arizona Health Caroline. As we mentioned, to eleven first downs, just two total yards, only forty on the ground, and they were plus two

in turnovers, Carolina had three. They only had one to twenty five advantage in time of possession for Arizona. And then there was a lot being made of the choice by the Cardinals. They were up sixteen, they were up twenty six to ten, and they went for two, which made no sense on the surface. But I think we all have to assume that Matt Prater was too injured at that point to kick an extra point. Maybe that's what I heard, because I was the same as you.

That makes absolutely zero sense unless you're kicker, can't kick. Yeah, his hip was hurting, and I guess it was so bad that one of their running backs, you know, Benjamin, had to kick off a couple of times. So Prator had been kicking field goals. But then that made no sense whatsoever at that point. So I guess on that will give experience the benefit of the doubt, even as much as I know I have to give the benefit

of the doubt. I mean between Sirianni not kicking the field goal late and keeping the game at eight not converting the fourth down, between hardball deciding not to kick the field goal for the for the Ravens at a tie game with just over four minutes left at the two yard line, and then Riich deciding to kick the field goal with with just with down seven with two minutes left in the game, and then the Vikings were just a slew of blunders. I mean, I don't, I don't.

I don't think this ranks because I think it was it had I want to put Sirianni, by the way, at the top of that least. I don't stand. I mean, how do you do that just on a on a macro level with all us By the way, I have to guess the line here right? Uh? Philly minus four and a half on the road at Arizona, Oh man, you're low. Um really it's five five and a half. I'm gonna open six. I give Arizona zero for home field advantage. They can't win at home, you know, a zero.

And by the way I looked, Philly, I now have my third ranked team behind the number one Kansas City, number two, Phillies up to number three. That was my power rankings last week. It was the same one, two, three, And by the way, it doesn't change after this, yea, So I mean I'm making Philly six, you know, as as bad as I think Sirianni's blunder was. Kingsbury has a whole litany of just I'm supporting him on the extra point kick. But I think Philly is just that

much better than Arizona. Your take on Kyler Murray remains the same. Yes, best highlight reel in the NFL doesn't win a lot of games. We are we going a little crazy. I'm Philly given six on the roads Arizona. Maybe you know, listen, there will be some point where the worm turns right. This could be it, you know, That's that's what makes the NFL what it is today.

It's also one of those where I could see myself playing Arizona in the contest and then cut to a shot of me like two drives into the game, and I'm like, what have I done? This is the stupidest thing I ever did. Alright, Um, Sunday night, Monday Night. Still to come to Week five in the National Football League. I think I like New England best so far, and I kind of like Arizona there No, I even not

want to probably Arizona Sunday Night, Monday Night. On the other side, it's a numbers game at Visa these sports Betting Network skill Alexander, A pro tip of the hour you said something earlier, You've said it many many times on the show. Has to do with your your statement. It's a bingo thing for guessing lines, diminishing returns on big favorites. What do you mean by that's just in

the NFL. You know, you may like my power ratings come to seventeen rolls over the Steelers, but seventeen is not a good number just because just watch NFL games like yesterday is a great example. How many games were within one score in the fourth quarter. It's just the way in the NFL is college. It doesn't apply because teams can win by forty and fifty, but it just doesn't happen. In the NFL. Teams usually keep it fairly close.

If you have a much superior team, they lay off the gas late and you know, and that's all the backdoor covers. Seems basic, but that's our pro tip of the hour. Good baseline to know in the NFL. That's our pro tip for the hour. We do one every hour, of course on a visa across every show, so that means at least twenty every single day. I've done the math for you. They're all available for Visa Pro subscribers only at Visa dot com, where you can store them

by sport and by show. We get tweets, we get texts. These are texts. The beauty of beauty of the show also is that people who we have on the show listen to it. At Telly. Joe Peta chimes in with the text. Joe Peter puts it in and he says Eagles favored by six at Arizona, which is almost certainly the smallest favorite. They will be on until Christmas in Dallas. Their schedule in October and in November now looks like John Thompson was the a d Hey, you took a

shot at Georgetown. I really shouldn't ron Burgery through his street. By the way, Joe Pete also would like me to say, which I did with Vinnie with the Hall of Famer Christie Andrews. That's the old Joe buck how he every time introducing everym with the Hall of Famer Troy with the Hall of Famer Christie Andrews. Of course, in case you missed it, was inducted into the Sports Betting Hall of Fames. You mentioned Vinny Vinnie was in the office yesterday.

It's like fifteen minutes into the day. I looked at me, It's gonna be a bad day, and I don't think we can get out of it. He just kind of you guys. You guys walk around with your yellow blazers when you yeah, next time, somebody asked me from my resume, I'm just gonna bring out the trophy. Here's this is. I don't ever need a resume again. By the way, this is from last Vegas, Chris. This could be the

other appro tip. By the way, Brian, he said. My belief fifty percent of results are a waste of time to handicap results don't match box score. Handicap goal is to win seventy of the remaining fifty percent. Contests require a very high rate of toss ups to go your way. Always have to have luck on your side. That is multiple contest winner Chris. He is a smart, smart man. He show is and I like him too. He's a good guy. He's really a good guy. One of the

good guys in this business. We love Chris. Chris was kind enough to join us on a numbers game in person many times this summer, justin we would just talk about here here, here's his tweets, will just riff on these. So it's always great to have him. Good guy, smart Sunday night and Monday night. Brian, what's next? Al Right, we have a real good one. Bengals at the Ravens. Bengals at the Ravens Bengals extra rest. They won that

Thursday night game against the Dolphins. Burrow was twenty of thirty one for two eighties, seven two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once, always running for his life though Tee Higgins seven for to touchdown. The Bengals, if you recall against the Dolphins, were plus two and turnovers and then there was bad them more. Yesterday we talked about

how they squandered the twenty three lead. That's two games now against the Dolphins and against the Bills where the Ravens are at home looking to win, coasting in and then they just botch it. Ah Lamar Jackson twenty of twenty nine yesterday for one, one touchdown, two picks. He

was sacked twice. Eleven carries for seventy three yards. They had a fourth and inches of the Baltimore thirty four with one thirty five left and third quarter, twenty to twenty game, and after Lamar was ruled short on the previous play on third down, Lamar converted it on the sneak, but that drive ended in a Jordan Poyer pick as well. That was the first of two consecutive drives, of course, the second one being the famous one in the end zone when John Harbor decided not to kick the field

goal and keep that game at twenty to twenty. Um Jordan Poyer two interceptions on two consecutive drives, thirty eight ten to fifty advantage in time of possession didn't matter,

didn't matter again. And the last sequence, in case you missed it earlier, if you saw Marcus Peters going crazy on the sidelines, the entire Ravens defense had had the understanding that they were not going to tackle the running back and they were gonna allow the Bills to score because at that point, with only one time out, it was their only way of winning that football game. But apparently Odafe oh Wait didn't get the memo, and so the Ravens defense and Marcus Peters loses his mind and

Baltimore squanders it. So it is a Division game two two and two teams, the Bengals at the Ravens. I will say, I don't know why I keep coming up four this week. I'm all fource for me. Ravens minus four, you know, I like three a lot better. Um, that's what That's what I'm gonna open. And it's three with juice on the favorite. So between our two numbers, UM,

Cincinnati right now. I mean they were big steam this last week and all the Wise guys, I mean not just steam from you know, just anybody, but the Wise guys really were big on on betting on Cincinnati. And I'm you know, I've talked about it before. They addressed their offensive line problems, but I didn't think they solved them. Well, they may have solved them this last week. Burrow was very well protected and had a really good game. I've had my doubts about the Ravens coming into this year.

A matter of fact, couple I don't know if I said it on this show, may have said it on some other shows. I thought there's one disappointing team this year. I thought it was gonna be the Ravens, and uh, you know, I think Jackson is great, but he didn't have a great game. This straight didn't have a great year last year, and I think the defense probably isn't as good as it's been in the last couple of years. Um defense. I kind of like the Bengals in this game.

I think that they may have solved some of their issues, which was their offensive line, which I said they addressed that they didn't solve it. Maybe they have solved it. I'm not sure, but I kind of like the Bengals in this spot this. I asked that question to make Apot every week, what's the game you want? No part of this could be it just because the the range of outcomes I could see being really wide. I can see that too, but I had I kind of like

the Bengals here, all right? And then Monday night, what do we have? Brian? Alright, last game on the board, Raiders first A Chiefs. The Raiders hit it. Raiders were oh and three, having lost all three other games by combined thirteen points. They get off the schnide with that win over the Broncos yesterday. Derek carrteight no touchdowns, no picks, sack twice, seven carries for forty yards. Josh Jacobs four

and two touchdowns. Balling shot calling Sorry, Grizzy apologized. Davante Adams nine catches for one on one after the Raiders went up ten to seven early the second quarter. Here's another one. Just list the coaches who made like just bizarro decisions. The Raiders are up ten to seven early second quarter, They're like, what's on side? Kick it that failed? Seven plays later it was ten to ten on Brandon

mcmannus twenty eight yard field goal. Raiders overcame, though, And then there's Kansas City, and I must admit, once again, I was so fixated on the Braves Mets game last night that I was almost happy the Chiefs Bucks game was a blow up. It was just like the Bucks had no chance catching him all day because I didn't have to pay collect complete attention. But Patrick Mahomes, in case you missed it, twenty three or thirty seven for two nine, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked three times,

four carries for thirty four yards. He reaches twenty thousand passing yards faster than anyone else in the history of the NFL. And really, what will stand out from yesterday's game is that dude will flip the ball around anywhere and in any motion. Possible that whirling dervish one for the touchdown to Edwards alone. Not in the m v P conversation. We just take it for granted. He's going to be fantastic every week. It's such a great point.

He's like, he's already reached the lebron stage. Well, you could be the MVP. By the way, Barry this how sorry? Never mind the fact. How good is he that he's still won seven even though he was in that conversation, He's still won seven because it was that good. They couldn't help themselves. But Mahomes, to your point, is right. Mahomes is like he's come on, he's the best player in football. They just execute that offense. I mean really,

Andy Reid has a lot to do with it. The people around him have a lot to do with it. But they execute the offense and he's the trigger guy, no doubt about it. Edwards a layer was nine two and a touchdown on the ground, one catch for the two yards the play that I was talking about for another touchdown Kelsey to touchdown. By the way, the Chiefs were up twenty one to ten, fourth and one at the Tampa Bay thirty four. Edwards a layer wide open in the flat. He dropped. It didn't matter because the

next play Brady was strip sacked by Lagarius Sneed. Chris Jones recovered it. Six plays later, Noah Gray from under center to ten Andy Reid pulling out all the stops. He's like, watch this, We'll put our tight end under center. Twelve of sixteen on third down for the Chiefs. That's all you need know. Tampa Bay couldn't get him off the field. Thirty twenty two time a possession advantage Kansas City against the Raiders at Kansas City. Kansas City by

seven and a half. I'll give him the hook. That's exactly what I made it. It's there's a seven, and there's a couple of sevens out there, but mostly seven and juice on the favorite couple of seven halfs. I'm gonna open seven half. I know we don't have a lot of time left. Two big moves since we started the show. One on the Denver Broncos. It looks like Jonathan Taylor maybe out for the Colts, and I see a lot of money showing up for the New Orleans States.

I'm thinking maybe Jamis Winston is back in the line of But two big moves since we started the show. Wow, the Jonathan Taylor thing, Thursday game. They already bad season, could get worse quick. We'll see. We've done all we could do. Guessines Week five. Thank you, Christie has always appreciated my pleasure. Brian or Tagan, thank you. Thank you, Kevy keb with the Survivor drops. Let's go, Braves, get it done tonight. It's Vasa these sports betting network enjoy