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was with Brady Cannon and Matt Humans at Visa. But West is far more than just the co host of long Shots. West Reynolds can co host any show about any subject. We're just talking about f one off air. West is like, yeah, I know about that too, and know it's about everything about anything, pop culture, everything, culture, wrestling, Yes, UFC, boxing, everything, West Reynolds, you think we're going to have a big crowd here for this UFC this weekend? West, you think that?

I think so. I look, I watched the fights the I think it's McGregor and Plourier in the warehouse up that circle on the third floor, by the way, great place to go watch the fights if you if you're not in the arena at t Mobile, arguably one of the best places in town. Had a great time up there. West. Thank you for doing this for the first time. It's an honor that you're here. And what's your favorite air Supply song? Just to prove a point, okay, the one

that you love West? What do you go? Ahead? Todd, I'm sorry, how do you feel about Repenzia timm Assura scoring in the second half at home against Dinamo Bucharest and the Romanian come of course he asked the question that would tripped me off because I am not following that. Let's go back to air supply. It's a dead heat between even the nights are better, and you know I got to include that one. Did you hear Paul Howard's take this morning that Green Day is the second most

over did band of all time? Who's the first? Most? You too interesting? And there's a lot of people that have that take. I don't know that I disagree by the way the other voices, of course, Todd wished it from his Bomb's Cork Addict in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on the Big screen and Mike Palm, Ladies and gentlemen, the vice president of Operations. I've got against Dnamu in my fanal uh little table. Are you betting team totals? Yes, I've got Repenzia under a half and I'm re rolling now

because I'm on both sides. Todd's betting soccer, betting tennis currently and we're gonna do the megapod And as always, we start Mike with the Circa Millions and Circus Survivor update. What do you and the millions? We have twelve people

ten and oh. After two weeks one person oh and ten, So it's it's you know, out of four thousand entries, only twelve or ten and only one is in ten, So that's it's and millions more people didn't put in the thirty one didn't put their entry in the millions, which disqualifies them from the quarterly and overall Booby Prize. They could still win other quarters and Circa Circus Survivor. The not entry was knocked out the third most people this week. First was the Steelers, then was Seattle. The

third most came from the non entry. How does it go up from week one? Week one? Should be the most that didn't get in because people die. People are in jail. You know there's a four months sign up, but what people do die? People do go to jail. The people are passed out on Fremont Street on Saturday night. Anything can happened, Yes, anything can happened. Um okay. Well, so, by the way, I'm struggling with Survivor this week because I don't know whether to go with Carolina tonight or

Denver on Sunday. We'll get the Survivor here, Todd, do you advance last week? Yes? I advanced with the Denver Broncos over the Jacksonville Jaguar. You still have both entries left? I have to now I only have one. I only went into one. I'm currently six and four and millions after I had a smooth four and one. Who did you use week one and Survivor? I used the l A range all right, So Rams and Broncos off of todd slist, Bucks and Packers for me, Bucks and Packers off. Okay, okay,

uh Todd. I hate to ask this question because I got whitewashed last week, But what are the as the pod stenographer, what were our records last week? On this show. Yes, as the pod stenographer. Last week was a rough week for young Gilly Ice going oh and three, Uh, he moves himself to one in five, although he did get very lucky with his teaser going to two and oh

and teasers. He had New England and the Bengals, and the Bengals got a Justin Fields gift thank you for the long saving and so he goes to two and oh and teasers. Mikey was one and two. There you go to move to three and three and he lost his teaser. Oh, I go in with the Picksburg Spellers who cannot block anyone and therefore the Raiders knocked out his teaser. He's not one and one in teasers, and I had a stellar two and one to go to

four and two, also winning my teaser easily. Broncos and Pats with my teaser to go to two and a teacher, I could tell you we're super excited to go through this. How did how did our week two guests? Uh? Two guests Drew Dinsick had the Steelers minus six losing, the Colts plus three and a half somehow covering and the Vikings plus three and a half, also covering He also got very lucky with the Bengals Packers teaser. I love how you when when other people are involved, you're like

somehow and got lucky. But with you, it's just easy peacy, right, Todd, you're four and you're four and two now sometimes I'm three three? Thank Gil is one in five? Is that good? My question is is this the latest into the year. You've had the lead in the contest both years. I'm not worried about teasers. I'm talking about the best bets. It's the latest. It's like the it's like the Detroit Tigers latest they've been at the first place. We'll see

what happens. H And also we have an additional member of the show. If you're watching a video here, Uh, Mike palm cut out, which which is the real awesome thing? Mike, you know you're gonna hate me for doing this back, but how is it? How is it that they gave you the back of this too with the uh you didn't you really like what's going on up there? No, they could have painted that. I mean, it doesn't have to be that life like it could have. Well, of

us are getting younger. You feel great here, Mike, Thank you West, West, and I are going to be on both sides of here, all right, Um, so what do we do first Thursday night football? We don't have to have a pick here. I'm just curious if there are any thoughts about this. I have Carolina in multiple teasers with Arizona, with Cleveland. I even have one wacky one where I have them with like four other teams for

plus three fifty. But yet I'm I'm terrified about taking them in the Survivor, even though I have them in teaser legs, which makes no sense, but Survivor tends to do weird things to your brain. West. I'm curious if you have any takes. I know I talked to you

about this morning on a numbers game. What is your take on the Yeah, this would be a teaser only game for me on Carolina, because look, you can get it through the three and the seven, so Carolina down to two or if at seven and a half, you can get it down to one and a half, and that'd be the only way I would go here. I would be careful laying the points in this spot. And I agree with your caution on the Survivor because look, you have a Carolina team and when you're a young

team like them, and I took them overseason wins. I do like this team. I like Matt Rule, I like Joe Brady. I like this defense. They've been drafting guys in the first round pretty much each of the last four years, and those guys are finally starting to play and produce and come together. This defense is absolutely for real. But what worries me on Carolina is you have a

team that's not used to this spot. You have a team that's not used to winning and they're not used to success, and you're asking them to lay over a touchdown on the road. I know it's Davis Mills. I know he was eight of eight team last week with a touchdown in an interception in the second half against Cleveland, but you do at least give him a couple of days of practice with the number one, which he essentially did not have for the Cleveland game last week after

Taylor when Taylor got knocked out. But I'd be a little careful laying this spot with Carolina. I think just on the math, you probably have to use them in a teaser. But this isn't something I'm willing to like. Go balls to the wall with so to speak, Does anybody differ with it? I think that I feel exactly like that. Last week I said you should use the football team and survivor, no never in doubt, clear winner, wire or wire. And I think you must consider using

the Panthers tonight as well. I think you have to because you cannot use Carol Cardinals, you cannot use Arizone. You must save them for Christmas. I think, well, see, I don't. I Detroit scares me. You know, Detroit has an offensive line they can block you for me, and for me, it's Carol will get the survivor. But for me it's Carolina versus Denver. That's that's why I don't know where else would you use Denver? Denver would get my vote now because they're in a very tough vision.

If you West, let's just say it, at four entries left, would you split them between Carolina and Denver? This week? I would maybe lean a little bit more toward the Denver, So maybe three. And that's what I might do, because I think with Denver, you've gotta understand they're gonna have a toper schedule and they're gonna have two games of Kansas City they're gonna have two games at the Chargers, they're gonna have two games with the Raiders, and the

non conference it gets a little tougher. And even though I kind of like the Jets and the Points, I would still probably use the Broncos. Yeah, we might as well flush out the surpriber talk about as I look at the schedule, Carolina and Denver. The only other time you can justify using either happens to be the same week also, so it's kind of like and by the way, it's really late in the season also, and I'm not

I'm not. I'm trying to expunge last year for my brain, where like normal survivors usually only get to like week ten, eleven, twelve, So who knows if that will even come into play. And Todd, I think you can holler if you hear me on this, but Jang Si Si has just broken glatch. So that's a big thing for me. That just happened. In tennis, you know your girls side, that's your play, just like you, Todd got those drive shots. I tried

to do trick slices and angles and every day. If you can't handle the moon ball either, oh trust me, I can handle any time you want to come out like, I don't even know if you get three points on me and again, here we go, here we go, brutal. Alright,

let's do best. Yeah we did. Thursday. I thought any other Thursday, And I thought, Todd, do you have any I just wanted to Thursday night, thought a little bit on the under maybe because I think the Carolina Panthers under Matt rule or rule or whatever he likes his name to be pronounced. I like what they're doing. Defensively. They were pretty good the first week against the Jets.

They were outstanding against the Saints. I mean, if you look at the drive charts for the Saints, Uh, the saints only touchdown came on a gift interception twenty yard drive. Other than that, it was three and out, three and out, five and out, three and o four and now three and it was NonStop, just totally domination of of Jameis Winston on the defensive end of the ball. So if they can do the same thing against uh Mills, uh,

you know, Stanford guy, why not? And then uh, you know, I don't see I don't see the other you know, I don't see their offense under Donald being a you know, high flying offense, so you know you could get there four to ten, you know something like that. What do you think West is the effect of the of the Texas not having um the safety read is out and then also the linebacker UM. I never say this name right with the groogy a Hill. Yeh, I think that

without tonight. So that's why I would I would lean to to use Carolina, you would. I would be the survivor about ahead, obscure, guys, do you know their backups? You don't know whether they're backups or that are granted at the quarterback position, you do. But in the linebacker position. This is what I can't stand when talking heads like people who run the Nuts Show or something get on there and start talking, start talking about, you know, oh,

the backup linebacker. You know the linebackers out in the safeties out? Well, how do you know the backup if you actually do know that the backup linebacker is terrible in the backup safety terrible and by all means, But do you actually know that, Mr Nutts, I don't know it. I don't know what Todd Todd. Another question here is Matt Rule, your leader in the clubhouse for coach of the Year after two weeks. Hmm, that's a good one. It's not Sean Payton anymore. No, no, not at all,

it's not him. All right, let's do some best bets West as the guest with your first one. Okay, first best bet, We're gonna go with the team that scored no points last week. To make that a best bet. Let's just let's just put it out there right now. I am going to go, and it's for me basically mainly in the market. There's some four and a halves out there too, because Derek Carr got ruled probable. I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins against the Las Vegas Raiders.

They did beat them late in the year last year, so I know a payback spot for the Raiders because that's what eliminated them from the playoffs. Remember they got that personal foul that continued that Miami drive, just like as the Raiders are wont to do get a personal foul in a key situation. But that was the game. Yes, yeah, where Brian Flora is basically subdim in and out. But

it is gonna be Jacoby Brissette here. But I think the market's kind of telling you they don't think that there's much of a drop off really between Tuah and Jacobi Berset. But if you look at the look aheadline on this game, I think it was mainly not with

the Miami adjustment. I think it was the Raiders adjustment because they went in and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a total dead spot off a short week, expending all that energy into your home opener, your first game in a new town with fans in the stand, and I think the look ahead was like a pick them. And now it's adjusted up to four. I think that that's a big move. I think the Raiders maybe now kind of feeling themselves a little bit. I think defensively, Dave

still got some issues, especially in the secondary. I think that front four has done a very good job getting pressure on Lamar Jackson and the opener and then Big Ben in the last game. But I like the Dolphins here getting four. There are some four and halves out there as well. I like it. Do you? By the way, teams that have lost by more than thirty in the NFL are like over against the following week, which is a nice little and that makes sense, right because it's

a recency bias, the market overreacts. And by the way, if you watch that game, you know, I'm not saying Miami would have won, but thirty five to nothing was about one of the more misleading scores of that week. And for those of us who do anything, aren't you guys, aren't you guys a little concerned with the fact that Miami doesn't look like they can block now matter who's playing quarterback. Like the first half of that game, every

play was like they're getting sacked. It was ridiculous, regardless of who was the quarterback. So I love the pick too, but I'm so scared of how badly they blocked, well, half the offensive lines in the league camp block. I mean, I go back to what I think it was Bill Polian a few years ago said about the offensive line play. It's an epidemic. And I think he's absolutely right. Now.

He was kind of speaking in the tone of, oh, this damn collective bargaining agreement, because he's always management, so of course he's gonna take the stand against labor. It's like they don't hit in pads enough and and I think he's right, But I also think you've got to look at the college offenses, that's a different skill set

than what they do in the NFL. A you know, college, the name of the game is run as many plays as you can, as fast as you can get a guy open in space, and that's it, and just go tempo, tempo tempo. In the NFL, the reds are totally different. The protections are totally different. So I think you have a lot of we were talking about so many teams in the summer like that they have bad offensive lines. The Bears got a bad offensive line, All these teams, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Steelers bad offensive line. Even teams that you thought would have had good offensive lines like the Indianapolis goals have been absolutely terrible. Carson Wentz has been sacked six times in two weeks. So the offensive line, it's kind of one of those things where it's like, you know, about half to maybe two thirds of the team in the

league aren't set on that old line. There's concerned about the performance of Brissette last week though he looked so I think he's good, yeah, but he didn't looked like you couldn't even move He couldn't even move around. It was like a five step drop and just try to spray the ball eight yards here. I mean that was

their whole offense once he hadn't practiced. I mean, you have to give him that sort and you go game plan specific to because it's going to be probably different how they attack the Raiders than they're going to attack the Bills. But you're right, he did not look great. But they are getting Will Faller back it looks like, so he's getting at least some help on that side. I think the two Raiders the two biggest points from last year, but not not last week out the two

bags was one of them. Was you know, again, with the NFL, more than any other sport, we tend to always be results based and we're like, oh, look, yeah the Dolphins got smoked. Yeah, well, their starting quarterback got knocked out four minutes into the game. Can I prove to you that would have gone otherwise? I can't, but you know that's a thing. T J. Watt got knocked out after the first quarter in the Steelers game. Would that game have been different? I will sit here and

tell you it would have been. I can't prove it to you, but but I think it would have been the other biggest thing is the last injury reports from last week. So on Primetime Action, which I do with Matt Brown and Kelly Billin on MSG Plus at Visa, we do we take such pride in like, Okay, these are the final injury reports. This team is decimated. This team is decimated. This team. Every one of those teams, they got the worst of the injury report last week

in the final one. So I'm talking about the Ravens and the Vikings and the Niners. I'm forgetting something right that just got destroyed. All of those teams ended up covering. So I feel like last week was this weird aberration where if you waited, if you the prudent thing and waited for the final injury repoard, it almost screwed you, Whereas if you made your picks earlier, you were better off. And I don't think that's a normal thing. I think

that's just an aberrational thing. But that, to me was the biggest betting point of last week, that if you played against teams that were decimated. And maybe this plays into your point to some degree, Todd, where it's like we just assume that if certain players are knocked out, it doesn't necessarily mean, it's the drop off that we think it is. Maybe, well, that's the thing. If if you have like cluster injuries on the offensive line, that's

then yeah, that can be a thing. But if you've got my safeties out and my this guy's out, but we don't know who's is the second team guy good? Is he not good? I think sometimes it's it's overblown. And I was just taking a shot at Mikey because I like to take shots on Mikey because he takes shots to me. But but the point is, I think people sometimes get a little too overblown with that. Now, the quarterback position is an entirely different thing, because your

quarterback is a giant thing. But the the the these injury things, I think you have to take them with a grain of salt. You really have to be careful. First of all, Todd, I asked Wes his opinion about the injuries affecting them. I didn't purport to know anything about it. I asked a guy that has a deeper knowledge of this than I do, Mikey. Mikey, I wasn't really attacking attacking people like you, you know, people who have shows, like people that have mediocre shows. What's the

new name of the show. Odds on, odds on everybody, odds on. Yeah, I'm not gonna get used to that. We have two guests today in an hour show. Yes, Cadrea Ismail the Missile Yeah, and then Professor John Clayton, also Professor John, Professor John. All Right, we got we gotta we gotta move. Alright, Mikey, your first best bet, My first best bet is the forty Niners minus three on Sunday Night. Second, no, no, no, no, no no, I'm not laying three and a half. Todd, don't start

that bullshit. Are okay? I'm three points. Listen. You just cannot underestimate how bad Matt Rule is in Sunshine States. I mean, this guy is an absolute disaster. The average scores of the five games he's played in Florida and in and in California is one to three at halftime. He's been blanked in four of the five games. Whatever it is, they are never ready to go to California. Remember they went and just got an absolute I'm I'm

talking about the fleur, Yeah, the floor. I mean the game against the Chargers where the Chargers like out gained them five to one and then they and then and then they got beat in the NFC Championship teams. I don't know what it is, but this buffoon is this terrible when he goes to the side, I mean, why did he calls the time out? Let him have a practice kick at Lambeau. This guy, I don't understand it. I mean, his record is unbelievable, but in every big

spot he doesn't perform. I mean, and they'll beat up on the teams in the Central this year, but I don't think they're gonna beat up on the good teams. I am thrilled to have them in my rear view and survivor haven't used them already. Let's put it that way, all right, I laid the three. Let's move alright, Totty what he got first? My first pick is gonna be there,

Cleveland Brownies. The Cleveland Browns minus seven against your Bears. Now, I don't care who's playing quarterback for the Bears, because the Bears stink. And you know, don't let your your your don't get confused by the fact that the Bears won a game. Finally, they won the game because Cincinnati through fourteen interceptions inside their twenty yard line to give them all the points. The Bears were not marching the ball up and down the field against the Cincinnati defense.

That I don't know. Are they average, Are they above average or they below? Averages are definitely in the middle, somewhere right or somewhere maybe even below average. I didn't see anything. I went back and watched the shortcuts on direct TV. You know, you get to watch the whole game in thirty minutes, and the Bears didn't do anything offensively. It's basically burrowed through them. A couple of interceptions and they had short fields and got touchdown. So I didn't

see anything there from the Bears offensively. That makes me think that they can handle the high powered offensive the Browns. I don't like laying seven ones in the NFL, but the Browns are a team that can score with They've proven they can score the ball. First of all, does anybody run the football like the Browns in the NFL? I mean, these guys are running through massive, massive I think I could run for a hundred and fifty yards

behind the Browns line. You know most of these lines, Okay, maybe, but the point is these guys, they have massive holes who run through Chubb and the other guy Hunt and everybody. They just run and and Baker's not that offensively. I just think the Browns can blow the Bears out. I I don't believe in this Bears offense at all. Give me the Browns minus seven? You got them? Um? Yeah. By the way, have you guys seen the Peyton Manning

Eli Manning? Yes, you have to. You have to have two TVs though, because their feet is so far behind, and if you're betting live, you can't wait for that feed. Oh it's like fifteen seconds behind the regular feed. So I'm on air when it's on, so I don't. I don't on air. I say, hey, you gotta watch this Paint and Eely thin because obviously I don't want people going elsewhere. But I recorded it and watched the first quarter of it just yesterday that it's the greatest TV

show I've ever seen in my life. They need to cut out the guests. They don't need a guest they can have. They need to get the right guest because I thought McAfee and he saved the day, because look, Patrick willis great player for the fort he was not very good. Gronk had the one good line. Oh, I don't watch film. I just run by dudes. But Gronk is an amiable dunce. Okay, He's not gonna give you any insight, So you've got to get the right guests

like Barkley on The Raiders. Broadcast of his Raiders Ravens Week one was very entertaining. But people obviously want to hear Peyton and Eli. I mean, Peyton has just such a great mind, especially Peyton for the game, and he can break down He's like, Okay, when they're running these when they run these two underneath safeties, run the ball, run the ball. And that's what we always did. And I remember back as a Colts fan. I'm like, he would always audible to that whenever he would run, whenever

they would show that look. So he gives you such interesting things. He gives you anecdote, he gives you good stories, and you learn more were about football watching those two guys than you could ever learn anywhere else. Peyton Manning is the greatest public speaker we have alive today. That was this major at the University of Tennessee, that Hall of Fame speech. Yeah, I mean, it hit every note and it was and they and they gave one of the greatest of all time nine minutes, by the way

to do all name speech. I'm like, he can get the hour treatment. He's Peyton freaking manning, you know. But they had two classes that weekend, and I kind of it's like, how do you encapsulate that career nine minutes? Oh you can't, but can I just give it? Eli? Shout out and we'll move on because Mike he's got

a timeline. But Eli had a really great sense also of television and of the people watching and listening, because Peyton would sometimes drift and Eli would be like, well, for the fans, let them know why you said what you said. Like they're perfect, the two of them. He's like you, He's like you Eli, more like you very sweet. I don't want to hug you. Y. I have to tell you your show is the most easy listening show on the network. You can listen to it every day.

That's very nice of you, because there's just such a there's no no the flow of is it's so good with you because he's a professional radio person, you know what I mean, And he's just you know, I don't love every guest, but I can listen to the show every day. You know he's not going to say everything's like that. Reynolds guy is absolutely freaking I get, I get, I can see. I don't have to listen along chats. I can just listen to West for ten minutes on

Thursday mornings and get my golf my golf picks. That's very sweet of you to say, Mikey, thank you very much. Same to you, by the way, how about you do you give your pick? I'm sorry, but but enough about me? What do you think about me? No? Here we go? So mine is what is Arizona on the road against Jacksonville. I can make this quick on the road against Jacksonville.

I have him about seven and a half. Okay. When I did guessing lines with Chrissy on Monday, and for those who are listening to this a lot, listen to guessing lines as well on this podcast feed, that was the one that I was the most incredulous. But there were two and I'll get to the next one next. But I guessed ten and a half and Chrissy said, no, it's seven and a half. Now you don't have to believe in my ten and a half. But you get the idea. I have no idea why this is only

seven and a half. Last week, Trevor Lawrence for the Jacksonville Jaguars against the Broncos fourteen of thirty three for one eighteen one touchdown, two picks, and sacked once a hundred and eighty nine total yards of offense. That score was cosmetically closer because of the kickoffer turn of a touchdown. They were out time of possession thirty eight fifty two to twenty one oh eight. Urban Meyer is already issuing social media, you know, sort of hang in with us comments, right,

hang in with us, We're gonna get better. It's right out of his you know, the the pr playbook. It's way too early to be doing that. I think they're going to be a disaster. And I am in love with Arizona. I fell in love with I think Arizona is going places this year. So that's not enough points. I'm taking Arizona minus the seven and a half. There's two things here, and I'm gonna use that as my second pick. Okay, so we don't have to do You know that they haven't run a play in the red

zone yet this year, Jacksonville. They haven't had a snap in the red zone yet. Trevor Lawrence has the second worst yards per attempt in the league at five point four, behind only Andy Dalton and Trevor Lawrence. This new statistic, I love it. Uncatchable passes by far number one thirty six untatchable. Think about that, thirty six percent of his passes cannot be caught. So of the remainding with the remaining sixty four, then you have a defender actually defending

it right. So, and at midfield after the game, urban Meyer tells VIC Fanjo, it's like playing Alabama every week in this league. That's what he said. They said that says it's like playing Alabama every week. Wow, um, well that is actually like playing Alabama every week. Because the West West normally we would go for you to go to you here for the second way. That, by the ways, my second pick to Arizona. But Todd complained that we need a snake it this year, so we had to

go to Todd and what's stubble two? Toddy? Well, because West, what had what happened was everybody would get the pick first. I had to pick last every time, and then you know it just wasn't fair. So Todd would complain about being last on the prices right too. I mean, what what what disadvantage that you have by going last? What was their bits again? I want the Miami doll Dolphins for the same reason that West sad, but mostly because

they were down thirty five and nothing. But I'm not taking them because they can't block words ship, So I'm gonna go with a different pick instead. West's face is priceless. He's like, I can't believe I came to this. If I don't do the Miami Dolphins song, they get upset. Anyways, Ah, here's the deal. I'm gonna go with the green Bay Packers against the San Francisco under the fifty points under fifty in the green Bay San Francisco game. And the

reason is I see San Francisco as I think. I think the coach there knows that he doesn't want Jimmy to get a little out over his skis. Let's run the football that's played good defense, Let's grind, grind, grind, and green Bay has a tendency to have these really long drives, so I think this is gonna be a grinder type game. And I think forty Niners are gonna be mostly an underteam, sort of like what we saw

against the Eagles last week. And uh, therefore, I think fifty is kind of high in a game where you you're you're likely to see a lot of running by San Francisco and a lot of defense by San Francisco. And therefore I'm gonna go under the fifty. I don't think that the Packers are gonna score a bunch of points. I know the Packers scored a bunch of points against the Lions, but it's the Lions, and they were at home the first week against the Saints. That the Packers

look like world beaters, I don't think so. So I don't see the Packers scoring a ton here. And the Niners is a kind of offense where I think he doesn't want Garoppolo to beat him, and so he's gonna run the ball. He's gonna do controlled passing. They have these long drives. Give me under fifth, Wesley. If if Todd is going to do the Miami Dolphins song, maybe I'll save it if I get a return appearance here where I can do the San Diego Superchargers song. That's

our buddies in the world dying for that song. So if you can sing it right, It's a very hard song to sing. If you could sing it, you should try it, right. That was the greatest lie our parents ever told us was that disco is bad. Disc is amazing. What are you talking about, San Diego Superchargers. I missed that song of the Spanosa is Uh that went ahead and that was more fun than disco. Yeah, that was kind of a hybrid. It was like a little bit of a Funkadelic or like an earth Wind and Fire

type of vibe. By the way, happy earth Wind and Fire night of September. That's just a couple of nights ago. But anyway, getting to the second pick here and uh, kind of looking over and I'm going to, uh also go with one that Todd is on, and I'm going to go with the Cleveland Browns minus seven. Now, in full disclosure, there is six and a half in some

far away places. And I think it tells you that the market really really values justin Fields because what was this on the look at It was nine and a half and then Dalton gets hurt, Fields finishes the game. It comes out at seven and a half on Sunday night. Now it's confirmed that Fields is going to be the starter. It goes down to seven and you're even starting to see six and a half in the market. Uh And and I think this is kind of a bylow spot

on Cleveland. They're also getting one Odell Beckham Jr. Back in the lineup. I think that that is going to help. Now, in full disclosure, they did lose Jarvis Landry as well, so you know, you lose one and you gain one here. But I think justin fields on the road here you kind of saw in that Cincinnati game and and it was a close game in the stats, but on the scoreboard,

like the Bears were dominating the game. It was twenty three because that was one of my contest entries in the in the in the circu million, and also I bet it at a worse number, and the Bears were like dominating the game even though they weren't doing much offensively. Well, justin Fields, it gets to be twenty to Tenny those an interception deep in his own territory, Joe Burrow has that one play drive and then it's seventeen. Now Fields made the play to run on third down that essentially

into the game. But that's what you're gonna get with justin fields. You're gonna get a guy that's gonna give you those wow moments, and then you're gonna get those WTF moments where it's like, Okay, now the first read's not there, He's got to make a second and third and fourth read and he's gonna struggle doing that. And to Todd's point when he talked about offensive line play and what we were mentioning earlier, Chicago Bears not exactly

set on the offensive line. Now Fields can at least give you a chance to make plays with his legs that that the red rifle, the jinja ninja, whatever you want to call Andy Dalton can't do. But I'm with bag Water Pistol copyright Michael Palm. Yeah, I'm with I'm with Todd here. I think the Cleveland Browns this is a BILO spot. I know they gave one away against in the City, and I think they might have been a little bit hungover with that. Now they got ahead

of the number when Taylor went out. But that's why I didn't lay it with Cleveland last week because I thought they gave that to Kansas City. And that's two years in a row that they've lost close games to them. That we're both winnable games, so they're a little hungover and they didn't end up covering the spread. I think this is the cover time for Cleveland. I don't hate it. I don't hate it at all. I think the chasm between the Halves and the Abnats is really gonna be

seen this week. My number two is the Los Angeles Charge. Speaking of the Superchargers, what am I getting six and a half here? Todd on the Chargers? On the Chargers, you are getting six and a half. This is staged six and a half all week. I don't get it the Chargers. There was not a person who watched that Chargers Cowboys game last week who thought the Chargers weren't

the better team. And Mike McCarthy gets bailed out by Greg's Airline on the fifty six yard or the mischugus of Mike McCarthy being blocked, the was blocked got a billion dollar one. He's like, I was clock blocked, blocked, I was clock blocked, and then uh and then he said, oh and Kellyn Kellen Moore, something happened with him too, like the ref got in his way or something. It's ridiculous anyway, Line bail him out. But that was justin

Herbert one for three thirty eight. How Mario Cristo Ball and Anthony Lynn couldn't do anything with him, I have no idea, but they're a good football team. They did have twelve penalties for ninety nine yards. They do have to clean that up, but that that also affected the game in a way that it shouldn't on a on

a given week. They had zero touchdowns on three second half red zone possessions, one of which was that Micah Parsons bullshit sack which was ruled in the grasp, which is like, give me a break, give him a chance to score the touchdown. That was the second and goal of the Dallas seven with five thirty five left, they have to settle for the field goal which led to them the Greg's airline game winning kick. That just have lost eight games the last three seasons by three points

or fewer. That's awful, but you know what it also means. They lose a lot of games by three points or fewer. And I think they can keep up on offense with the Chiefs. The Chiefs defense can't stop anybody. You're giving me six and a half. I love justin Herbert Man I think as good as we think he is. You know the question that we've been throwing around him. If not Patrick Mahomes, who do you start an NFL team with today? I think it's justin Herbert. I really do

charge Chiefs don't in their last a billion games. It's ridiculous to leave that trend is correct to in a billion. Now, let me ask you as a question, I'm interested to see what you do here. You clearly like the the Chargers here in the points? Do you ever try to

middle like with the teaser like? There's a lot of opportunities to do that this week, Like, for instance, let's say you like the Lions at eight and a half or nine as it was in the week, but then you can get Baltimore now down to two and a half at the under three and under seven. Do you, guys ever try to do that where you might take a big underdog but tease a small favor and see if you can try to middle. For me, the truth is I never end up doing it. I rarely end

up doing it. I think about doing it a lot, but I rarely end up doing it in practice. Never, Yeah, I never do it. Yeah, mostly bet in game anyway, So I don't really mess around too much pregame. The illegal motion on the touchdown to total nonsense. How many times you watch that over and over and over again. Where's the motion? And they threw the flag after the way they already had the touchdown. Coarnti was awful. Day stopped the game over. That's what stopped both offenses was

Coarnti and his crew with the twenty flags. Those damn SEC refs. Oh they're bad. How about the punt in the in the in the in the Mississippi State game, He's blowed the ball dead. They had an issue a statement on that too the state. That was a job they got job too. The penn State third down punt. I was texting Felika. I'm like, hey, dude, you gotta tell him like that was a punt on third down. He goes, we think so too, We think so And they went to the replay. Yeah, and they there's eight

officials on the field thought it was fourth down. I pulled my team off. If I was James Franklin, I would pull them off the field until they got it right. A little bit about Bob Knight against the Russians in the exhibition. You remember that when he pulled them off the field. That's the todd Right theory. The Todd Right theory is when like in that Rams Saints NFC playoff game, he was like, pull the team off the field until

you get it right. We're not showing back up. I love that, Like, somebody's got to do that one day to play to places proceeding the bad punt, the bad fourth down? How is that grounding? He's under Note the rest in a clean pocket and the receiver broke the rod out, and all of a sudden they're calling intentional grounding. And there was something about that ref's confidence in all his picksl bothered me. I was like, you really think

you're doing this right, don't you. I mean, but let's just think about where where they get the pool of referees for these ball games. I mean, it's not exactly same place, same place we gets. What are you saying, Toddy? Now you're straight now. I'm just saying a lot of these referees are not exactly your mensum members. That's all I'm saying. Okay, that's fair, fair, alright, Pick number three. Mikey's on the timeline. Uh, Mikey you start, Okay, I'm

gonna go over Rams Bucks over fifty five and a half. No, okay, I'll take it. Look look, I mean Frank Reich and and the Cults and ability on gold to go really masked that score in that game. And look, the Cincinnati Bengals defense had a much easier time shutting down the Bears and the Rams did. Michael Lombardo is famous for right in the Washington defense is only good because we say they're good. They're no good. How about the Rams defense and the Bears defense? Who are the defense? There?

Really isn't. But all these teams we thought we're gonna have great defenses really haven't. And I think Bray, we'll have a heyday here. But I also think that the Rams are going to move the ball with Stafford and they're gonna throw the ball. Mark, I don't see a

lot of punts in this game. I bet the Cowboy game over with the Chargers, you know, and they don't put in the first half and that game goes under, you know, through all that myriad of thing, I think this is another game where you see three or less punts. So I'm willing to go over the get five thou catches in this game, yeah, and like five thousand yards a yak because no one can tack a little apparently this year. Alright, so over fifty six Todd checking you

on the number west, your third and final. Oh yeah, I'm down to a couple here, so I'm gonna have to just go ahead and bite the bullet and take the ugliest one on the board, the j E T S Jets Jets Jets plus ten and a half. I did bet eleven a week and I know this is going to be pooh pooed and uh. When I talked with my partner on the entries in the contest, he's gonna be I can't take it. I don't think we could take it. Last I don't think we could use

let's not know that Pearl's gonna do this. He's gonna do this west west. We can't west west west West. I don't think we could take it. I don't think we can do it. I just don't know. I just don't know we're gonna get well and I don't know either, But I'm gonna go and roll with him at ten and a half because look, everything is priced in now we know Teddy b is Teddy covers here, He's thirty eight and fourteen as a starter, even better on the road. But Teddy Bridgewater has never been this big of a

favorite before. Now you're laying double digits. And I go back to a segment that you did on your primetime Action show, which you can catch on MSG plus and also on Visa Plug. I'm playing Will Hill saying Vista dot com slash subscribe. But anyway, you made the point when you were talking about the Denver Broncos, because remember what they were preseason, they were about what seven and

a half on the winds. You might have seen some books go to eight at Juice to the Under when Teddy Bridgewater was named starter over Drew Lock and then then all of a sudden, what do they do? They go beat the giants. It reminds me of the be Chris Rock HBO special. I forget the title, where it's like people want credit for stuff they're supposed to do that, they're just supposed to be supposed to take care of

my kids. What do you want a cookie? Exactly a great bit, and look they beat the giants on the road. As small road favorites. I wasn't sure they were going to do that, but they did, and then all of a sudden they get priced to ten and a half on the season. We couldn't understand. And this is a team that I do think is gonna be a wild card team. I picked it in the Vista and Broke Football betting Guide. But now you're starting to see these

huge numbers on Denver. I know Zach Wilson though through four interceptions, I know they were bad and they've looked awful. They have offensive line issues. McKay Beckton is out for the interim because he got hurt in week one. But I just think this is such a big number. Denver's got Baltimore coming in next week, and that's a big

game you could potentially have. They're already looking ahead, like okay, you could potentially have like a playoff meeting early in the playoffs with Baltimore and Denver, so they could be looking ahead. And I'm gonna hold my nose here and we're going like to the sulfur factory. We're holding our nose so much here, and I'm gonna take plus ten and a half with p J. E. T. S Jets like I like to think though, I think you're gonna

convince Parlay too. I think you'll convince Jets fan Jeff Parlay that he said he might be that that bad. He says, I'm also that Jets can't be as bad as they played against the Patriots. They're not that bad on defense. On defense, they're actually not bad at all. On offense, they're horrendous. So you want to go under forty one and a half? Is that your pick? I was actually thinking about that, but I'm not gonna see that game. What's your last one about that? What's your

last one? My last pick? My last pick is a different under that I'm sure Mikey likes as well, And that is your New Orleans Saints and your New England Patriots to go under forty two points. And I just think that that Bill Belichick. You know, first of all, I watched the whole Patriots Jets game as well. I don't think that the New England Patriots looked that good

on offense. That was more the Jets played. Actually, the Jets played good on defense, to be perfectly honest with you, it was mostly just the interceptions, which which was the situation. The Patriots defense is good they only gave up seventeen points to Miami. They played very good on defense against the Jets. Granted the Jets are aren't great, and I'm not sold on this Jamis Winston story. I mean, I watched that game on the on the short cuts. They

could do nothing against Carolina, absolutely nothing. So are you telling me now they're gonna go up into Foxboro and Belichick is not gonna cook up some nice dish of defensive ste against against your boy Jamis there and mac Brown, They're gonna I really think he thinks mac Brown is the real deal. Possibly, But let's go slow. Let's have controlled,

you know, controlled passing. Let's just run the ball. Let's let's play this like a slow Belichick you know, cauldron type of game where he wins it, you know in the old days, you know, or something like that. Slow the game down, use our defensive football, because we know our defense is the number one unit on our football team. I think this game is going under. And the other thing is New Orleans is good on defense. It's not

like New Orleans got got in trouble against Carolina. They played well on defense and just couldn't do anything offensively. So I like New Orleans defense. I like New England's defense. I want unto and and my final play is akin to yours. I actually agree with everything you say. I took New England and my minus three or minus two and a half. Yet what am I there are? That there are two and a half's in the market, and I think there are several of them. But what would

West West? What would you call the consists? How about three? Even minus three? Even? That doesn't do any good though, because we are units. Yeah, this year we gave him the extra juice to I think he should eat some juice this time. Damn juice. I'm on New England for all the reasons that you're I just want to say, I said juice. By the way, people, I agree with you, and I think Bill Belichick has got is just salivating

over the Jamis Winston thing. Has your impression of Sean Payton from week one to week two gone any further downhill? And the fact that not that he's not a Hall of Fame coach, but in the end, maybe he can't solve the problem that is Maria Jamis Winston. Winston eleven for twenty two last week for a hundred and eleven yards. Uh. The Saints had five first downs, their fewest as a franchise since seven. They were two of eleven on third down versus Carolina. They were over two on fourth down.

They had a hundred and twenty eight total yards of offense. A hundred and twenty eight. I'll do the math. That's Carolina. That's thirty two yards a quarter. Have six first downs for the whole game. Yeah, I wrote five, but then I saw six later. Yeah. Remember that Winston when he had that four touchdown passes in like ninety five yards five and then he threw that fifty some yard Harris and I got him over. But that's the lowest yards

ever for five touchdown games. You're right, it was. It was four for ninety and then he had fifty of them more than one shot. Well, their first seven drives last week were five punts, one pick, and one turnover on downs. By the way, they were out of time of possession as well, thirty one thirty two they were. They also throw in eleven penalties for a hundred and fifteen yards. The interesting thing Camaro was eight for five yards.

The interesting thing is Sean Payton didn't pull out Taysom Hill Taysom Hill only had two carries for sixteen yards. Like that was the weirdest part about it. It's like we used to get annoyed that he kept throwing Taysom Hill into games last year, and we're like, just quit with the taste Millstone. Now when when Winston is floundering, he's like, I'm bailing him out with days on Hill. Well, maybe he's committed to Winston. That's why he's not doing that.

He didn't have to worry about Breeze thinking he wasn't gonna be the number one guy because he well, I'm going to it in New England, it's not the drives went anywhere. Every drive was like three and out before you could even Yeah, New England, Minustery is my third pick. Okay, let us move to our teaser leg of the week, Hod your first. I like my teaser a lot. I'm

gonna go with the buff Bills. I think the Bills, by the way, I think the Bills are a team that I think has actually a better defense than people realize. Last year it was a big, high scoring team. The defense wasn't that great. The offense was scoring like crazy. I like what I've seen out of Buffalo's defense. I mean, maybe Miami's offensive line is the problem, but they were all over whoever was playing quarterback for Miami. Um. I think the Bills are going to at least be able

to win the game against Tyler Taylor Heineke. So I will take the Bills down to what what would be Bills down to one and a half, and then I will take with them my Brownies down to one because I think the Browns. Like I said before, I gave you a million reasons why I think the Browns. Mostly they just blow massive holes in the offensive line. Okay, I already said what mine are because I already have

them in my bedding account as well. Uh Carolina, with Arizona, I'll say Arizona line of minus two and a half in Arizona, minds one and a half? Gill, Ye, that is mine. Thursday night, coupled with Arizona against Jacksonville, Mind's the same as Todd. Oh, same as Todd? What was that again? Buffalo and Buffalo and Cleveland? Alright, West, Okay, I'm gonna go with the Minnesota Vikings now up to seven and a half. This team I think should be

two and up. They should be there two points away from you bet them on the money line at all this week. I'm may I was hoping, actually was hoping Seattle would hold on against Tennessee so they'd be a little bit of a fat and happy too. And oh then I brought it would have probably gotten three at home with Minnesota just as an outright and then taking them on a spread money line. But I am going to tease them up here to seven and a half. There are some two's out there can get eight every

little half point gowns. But Minnesota, I thought they had a better balance last week. Kirk Cousins didn't have to go at forty nine times because remember that week one, they had like nine penalties on the offensive line in the first half against Cincinnati and that got him behind. They had I think four holdings and five false starts. Last week, they were a little bit more balanced. They were able to run ball. Kirk Cousins didn't have to throw it almost fifty times, and he got him down there,

and it's just Joseph missed the kick. They should have beaten Arizona last week. You know, he makes two fifty two yards and then the week before, Yeah, I hear Paul Allen's call on the radio film. He thought it was good. Yeah, he said, take us up, it's gone. It's good. And then and then the color guys like no, He's like, oh no, we missed it. So we do this segment on on odds on wilder right, And I asked them all is this line wild or is it right? So I said, Seahawks leaning two on the road here

in Minnesota, is this wilder right? He was Mike, this line is right. Wait, wait, no, it's wild. That's so I do have Minnesota, and I've teased them in a couple of different legs. I did tease them with the rams also up through the three and the seven. That's not what I'm gonna use here. We're gonna go Carolina and Minnesota, Carolina minus to Minnesota plus seven and a half. If Carolina teaser doesn't come through tonight, there's gonna be a lot of teasers done all over. Absolutely, so, so

it's just reload. Just people want, people want action on a standalone game. I gotta do. Absolutely. The Vikings killed me because if you follow my uh my Twitter at t wishes, you would know that I was eight and four in game. This week giving your giving you live in game picks, and I would have been nine and three had the Minnesota Vikings kicker. I had Vikings minus

one thirty that I got early in the game. The kicker missed it, and that put me at eight and before and you had three over over there also, right Todd, Yeah, I won the over and easily. But but I was talking about the and some some of these college games by you have to you should follow my Twitter if you like, because like SMU game was like the easiest

overall time oh miss over for team total. I mean, I don't even know which ones I put up which ones I didn't, But you should definitely follow that wishing if you like in game that truly, truly your your college football Saturday feed is very entertaining. I don't have time for your mission, Guss on Sunday, but Saturday, yeah, first of all was eight and four, Gilly, so you

should make some time. Mr svent Lana and Vissimova Psycha whatever, Psycha Psycha and West is so right Minnesota, the Dalvin Cook fumble, the Greg Joseph thirty seven yard or to place there two and oh otherwise, so that's the thin line final two questions. Odds on is about to start. We gotta go. What do you gonna say, Todd, No, just go ahead. I was just gonna say, I have that. I have that teaser in my five team teaser, like a Minnesota Vikings when I like, I do too. I

have a five teamer that pays plus three fifty. I throw all all of these in the punch plus four hundred Raftings gives you four d Anything you can do, I can do better. I can do anything better than you. Not that cursed bookmaker. They don't give us all right, just show up with bags of cats. They do. Baby

all right? Here it is big favorites supposed likely to lose out right, Caroline at eight point favorites on the road at Houston tonight, Cleveland seven point favorites at home against Chicago, Arizona seven and a half point favorites on the road against Jacksonville. Should I throw in the Kansas City game? Or is everybody gonna pick anything? Seven? Or about it? Right? Yeah? Well usually six In this case, we won't. We won't use that one. Buffalo seven and

a half or whatever they are now hosting Washington. There goes my screen. If my computer just went out. What are the other ones? Todd Ravens, Lions, Ravens on the road against the Lions. That's the last one in Denver, of course, hosting j Browns seven Denver hosting the Jets is the other one. Yes, okay, I think the Texans are most likely to win. That's what Which is the one most likely to lose? Out right? You say so?

You say it's Carolina, Mikey. I don't think any of them, but I'll go with even though I played this in the teaser, I'll go with the football team because the size of blogists made the argument on your show. It's while ago we did, he did, he did, he did,

he said they're live, he said the West mostly that right. Well, since we are in the d here in fabulous downtown, I want to say the Baltimore Ravens because I think that game was so big for them, because remember on Monday night football in Kansas City just kind of backhanded him and really smacked him around, said you're not on this level. Baltimore got down. They had to fight back. John Harball, I think I had no choice. So it's like,

we gotta go for it on our old side. We get my homes the ball, we lose, we're basically giving him the game. So I think you go Baltimore to Detroit. At Detroit, I know they got beat thirty five seventeen on Monday Night football. Green Bay ended up easily covering, but that game really wasn't that much widespread. I think I think Detroit at least they fight in the trenches, and I think that's where maybe they can hang in this game. So I think Lions could put Ravens on

upset alert. The only thing that stopped the Lion's offense in the whole first half was that phantom hot other than that they scored a touchdown. That right, I I completely agree with you. That's my pick. It's the reason why I haven't considered Baltimore for one second in Survivor that wrong. I get plenty of things wrong on a daily basis, Todd, so don't don't be alarmed. Final question, Bizarro world, you have to play every single side but

one one that you wouldn't even bet with your buddy's money. Mikey, what's the game that you want no part of? Yeah, I don't know. If Vikings Seahawks, I still don't know what the Seahawks are. I don't know if if their defense is good or not. They weren't in the second half of that game. Uh so I passed, Okay, you're you got odds onto good too? Yeah for a few minutes,

be uh pithy inters here. Green Bay San Francisco. For me, it almost was Indianapolis Tennessee because we do of course, no don't know if Carson Wentz is gonna play, so it maybe Brett Hunley, so then I would absolutely want nothing. What happened to Allinger? I thought he got hurt in the preseason and he's reserve right now. So right now Honley and jacob ees and have split reps with the number one. Actually Hunley got more, so that that was probably they don't really love jacob eeson on the road

in this situation. But for me, it's Green Bay San Francisco because I don't know. I don't know where Aaron Rodgers's head is at. I think, look, they gotta win on Monday night. But they just made one play and it basically busted the game open, and then San Francisco they were on the verge of going down to Philadelphia. Philadelphia basically played like twenty eight really good minutes of football in the first half, they don't score when they

have first and goal. San Francisco gets a touchdown late. So yeah, I'm still a little lukewarm on the forty Niners. So it would be Packers forty Niners for me to avoid the worst beat of the weekend. If you had Eagles first half, absolutely yeah. We were covering that on the green zone Dame Ross and I was like, wait a minute, because we go we go to Dieter curtain Bach,

who's like our stringer. He works out as a columnist in the Bay Area, and he was like, well, they had forty Niners, have played about twenty eight minutes of bad football. You're in The Eagles about played him, yet this is still three enough, and then the forty Niners are about to score. That's you knew the Niners. We're

gonna get him Todd. Todd has left the building, So I'll give mine because I think it was of all the things I did last week, my best answer was to this question when I said the Giants in Washington, I want no part of that, and that sort of played out that way to me. This week, it's the Giants and the Falcons, which may be non sexy, but it's like I want I have no idea what we're getting in the game. Nothing. I don't even have to flesh it out, like how bad or how bad is

each team? And how competent can each team be long enough to outlast that opponent? I don't want any part of it. Todd, are you what happened to you? Are you going? You just walked out? Did you think the show was over? Dides mom? Have an incident? Did we do? We only pay him for per hour? There he comes? What happened? I had to go run and do the nuts show real quickly. What we want no part of? I want no part of the Cincinnati Bengals against my

picks Bird Stars. And here's whatever. I think Big Ben is getting too much from from all local people saying he's too old. It's not his fault. The offensive guying cannot law. If you can't talk and the wide receivers can't get separation, how are you gonna have a big mill in the touchdown area? You can't get yourself a big dinner in the touchdown area if you can't walk, Anybody in your receiver can't get any any separation, so

I don't know about them stores. I got a lot of injuries, and who knows what you're getting from this Bengal team. I don't want any part of this game, so I'm not gonna drive down to the rivers to see it and trying to get a free parking spot. Forget about it. I'm gonna watch the eight screens and that's it. Forget Mark Madden. Todd Wishnev is the super genius of Pitts. There you go, Tod, standing invitation. Thank you, guys. We gotta run because Mike he's gotta go do a

show with um All Shaw. It's called Odds on over at Vicent West. Thank you for doing this man, appreciating it again, all time listener, first time persistent. Thank you. We'll do it again later this year. Uh, Mikey for Mike Palm for Todd Wishnev Gil Alexander, thanks for listening, and thank you for making the first two megapods smash download hits top ten all time, both of them in in Vicens podcast episode history. So appreciate that. Uh, we'll

ramp it up all year long. Appreciate it. Thanks for listening from all of what's good luck this weekend from the Megapod