Check it on Man No Down Thursday morning, December one, Festivus for the rest of US Megapod Week sixteen National Football League Live from the D. It's Gil Alexander. Glad you could join us from our home at the D with our big shield table and a packed crowd. Here uh the day before Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Mike Palm, the vice president Operations, Circuit Sports Derek Derek Steven's conciliary. By the way, thanks for having Derek on with us.
He called the Lions out right over the Cardinal. He did he called it. He did call it. Todd wished ever from his mom's cork attic in Pittsburgh, PA. How you doing, Toddy. We're a college ship. Thanks for We're in a college. He's being stupid and ladies and gentlemen are rotating. Guest on the Megapod. Jeff Parlay, producer number five and eight of the Numbers Game to Grow. We're clevand Up producers and also the hosts of bet Center on Christmas Day, Christmas Day afternoon ish at Visa four
hours on Christmas Day. From young Jeff Parlay, who by the way, goes by the name Jeff Pearls when he does Bet Center. Are you doing, Jeffreys? Thanks for a man of many names apparently now, Gill and every Saturday, not every time, not just not just Christmas Day. I just happened to be alone and that happened to have multiple segments with Young Gil on Joes have to volunteer. We we volunteer on Christmas coming into studio. I'm not crazy. I'm not I'm not Are you leaving town? Are you
going to San Francisco? But I used to do it when I was at Camel. I used to volunteer for shifts on Christmas. At least we could do so. At least we could do. We all celebrate the christ So you work on Young kiphor but yet you will you won't work, but you will work on Christmas. Wow. I'm not sure where they cut. I don't know what the contradiction was. I don't know what I'm I don't know
what I'm saying. Actually, Okay, Mikey. First off, we're down to sixteen and Survivor and we have the Christmas three game fest about to happen. What are the deadlines on all of these? That's a very interesting point. Gil If you're using either the forty or the Titans tonight, it's got to be before kick. I'd get it in before because it will shut off in the computer, not actually win the kick, but whenever the game is is scheduled to go in the computer, in the in the software.
If you're not, if you're using one of the Saturday games, your deadline is ten pm Pacific Friday night, one am Eastern Saturday morning, and then there's a nine hour window. If you survive this three game window on your phone at the counter on the kiosk, it will populate your survivor at midnight Saturday night into Sunday morning, and the picks must be in by nine am, wow, hour before kick.
No one's gonna mess this up, right, No, you're solely sixteen seventy five thousand dollar intrinsic value, sixteen entries out of four thousand eighty nobody has multiple entries anymore. Sixteen people. And so what's interesting about this, and again this is like the Thanksgiving Cork where there were three games. What's interesting that most of us who were in this, we're sort of earmarking Arizona as the team to save. But that has obviously changed as Arizona has fallen on hard
times and the real team. The real advantage is that eight of those remaining sixteen have green Bay left. What are the odds that eight don't take green Bay? I mean, I put it as high. I would be shocked. If there aren't be shocked, it's gonna have to take. That's your advantage. But then, now where do you go? No Colts? No one has the Colts left. So if you don't have green Bay, if you're one of those eight people, do you go forty Niners, Titans or Cardinals? Those are
your three choices. I would take San Francisco tonight, That's what I would do. I just with with those offensive line injuries for Tennessee. I think San Francisco's D line is going to dominate the game. I know Gil already has the Titans getting three and a half and in his account, I know A. J. Brown is back, But I think San Francisco's defense is gonna be too much. I don't think you could properly evaluate Tennessee. I think they've they've tried to replace what Derrick Henry gave him
with a short passing game. Only problem is they didn't have Julio Jones or A J. Brown mos at this time. Now they do, so I think that that mitigates the offensive line trouble. But we'll see. Some people just have a strict policy they don't take road teams, and that would forbid them from taking Tennessee. So then you're from San Francisco. So then you're left with Tennessee or Arizona.
I don't like Arizona at all. I think the coast will be favored by the time they kicked that game, so I would be forced if I didn't play a road team to take Tennessee in the game. The answer is this an impossible choice. It's a Hobson's choice hops good college Hobson's choice named after Butch Hobson. But you know I was it after Dennis Hopson, and they just spilled it road. What or the other wasn Dennis Hopson
didn't play ball some Ohio states. I think he was in there with Granville Waiters somewhere during Grandville's eighteen years in Columbus. Grandville Waiters the last NBA player that didn't shave the head. He just decided, I'm gonna let it grow out on my sides and I'm gonna have a huge bald spot on baldhead on top of it. He was starting to bald while he was still in Columbus. I think he was there that long. But yes, it's well. He played early Jordan's He was on the court with
Jordan Granville Waiter. He had a COVID year dat I believe. Alright, So then, Todd, how did we do last week on this here show? Well, I just I want to say it was a Christmas festivous miracle because Michael Palm took it real bad last week. He went oh and three with the Brownies, which he did not deserve to lose, with the Miami Dolphins, which he probably deserved to lose, and the over forty six and a half in Atlanta
San Francisco, which was one of the worst losses. They had about a hundred billion points in the third order, and then all of a sudden, I can see it coming from a mile away. I was like, I was rooting against you the whole fourth quarter. I was like, come on. Every time Mattie Ice would get it inside the ten with his Philip Rivers junior impersonation, I was like, Mike, he's gonna be real upset when he doesn't get it in here and you ended up with an oh and three.
Just move just to be accurate about that before you give the records. Uh, Atlanta went for it down eighteen well, first of all, fourth and goal at the one two and a half minutes into the game, right and you think you're gonna knock him out and knock the forty niners out with a touchdown, only take the boys. Just kick the field, just kick it. You ran it, ran it,
didn't get it in kick the field. Not only that, cour Darryl Patterson was in the end zone on first own and they and they reversed it to no touchdown. He by the way, they blew it on second and third down also from goal line. Cordarrel Patterson stuffed on third down and so then they go for it fourth and one and they missed. Then Uh, fourth down eighteen thirteen, fourth and one at the eight ten forty two left they failed to convert. Then fourth and go at the
one down thirty one thirteen, they failed to convert. It is an eighteen point deficit. Like you have to have three scores, the one with twelve minutes left is unforgiven. I forget to get it down to two scores. Yes, yes, but anyways, I was laughing my head off every time on third and six they'd get five yards. It was impossibly on top of what, on top of what happened to Mike in his regular picks. In his teaser pick, he has the Carolina Panthers plus seventeen. It's fourth and two.
They're down ten from the eleven yard line, and the Bills could either kick the field go to go up thirteen, or they could just run it into the line to get the first down, or run in the line don't get the first down. Instead they fake it and throw a little dinker pass for the touchdown and they lose my seventeen. So it was everything could possibly go wrong. My good friend Mikey Palm went wrong, so he pushed his teaser as well. So anyways, Gilly had an nice week,
he heard him at the end. But me and gil both want somehow we both won with the Bengals there, gil Um. You know, late in the first half there was a huge, huge situation where Denver missed the field goals and and then the Bengals got a lucky field goal, and then it was you know, at that point, I was thought, Okay, now we're gonna we're gonna cover this,
so let's just let's give the details on that. So McManus misses a fifty one yard field goal with about seventeen seconds left, somewhere in that pocket, and I just figured the first half, first half because I just thought the Bengal I had the Bengals first half. I was like, oh, thank god, he missed it. Oh my god, I'm gonna get the push. I had the money line and it
was tied at three a piece and push yes. So I kind of lose my you know, attention, and I'm doing something else, and all of a sudden, like I hear the announcer going big pass from Borrow. I'm like, wait, they ran a play, not only they want to play. It's like a seventeen or I think it was a nineteen yard pass play. He gets mcfierson a fifty eight yard attempt and he sinks it. It would have been good. From we think about that game against Screen Bay where
he missed all the game. He's been great. He really had one bad core of the entire season, and it's the one everyone remembers and to guild to your point. I had legitimately gotten up from my chair and got back and so wait a second, you're lining up for a vehicle on there. But look, that's just that's just Fannie pack Vick and in his glory, they're getting us that extra three. And who at the end who also blew it at the end of the game. He blew
the time outs because Cincinnati. So Cincinnati's up fifteen to tend the eventual final score at the end of the game, and Fangio ended up calling a time out too early, and so Cincinnati ended up with a fourth down at the two minute warning. Denver had no time outs. Had Fangio used it earlier, Cincinnati would have had to have run their fourth down play prior to the to the two minute warning, and they would have had two minutes to work with instead. He just completely screwed the Broncos,
screwed his old team. But they weren't going to score anyways. It doesn't matter. No, no, I'm with you, no, no, no, I'm with you about all that. I'm just saying. We know the Broncos, they weren't getting in touchdown and anyways, they weren't getting a touchdown, and the two point conversion
to beat us Todd. They had the greatest drive in the history of the league at the end of the game, down five, where they went backwards and then Lock fired the ball fifty yards at a bounce on fourth and eighteen. But you know, we were talking about this, Matt Brown and on a primes I was like, we we both had the Bengals too. And when Locke came in the game, Lock is just scary enough where you're not really thrilled with it, where you're like that guy. He when he's bad,
he's bad, but when he's good, he's kind of really good. Variance. So and and you know, you felt bad for Teddy Bridgewater got knocked down the third quarter, but that was not a that was not a you know, a happy thing to see Lock come in. Anyway. I'm sorry interrupted you, but so we ended up anyways. Anyway, So you went too and one Gilly to now Gilly Ice moved into first plance a Mike and and I am a half game behind Mike yet nineteen and twenty six we are struggling.
Uh one other thing, one other thing. Can I just give a shout out to whoever? And Mike probably knows the name of the referee, but whoever the referee was. At the end of the Bears game, I had the Bears plus eleven. I had the Bears plus. I had Bears plus fifteen, and the Bears plus the team was
already in, but had Bears plus eleven. And every time they get down there in the fourth quarter, they had like a thousand chances to cut it from fourteen to seven to fourteen to eight or whatever it is at the way, and they they were that touchdown, by the way, that and by the way, that touchdown helped me, and I want that was not a touchdown. The guy didn't. He babbled the ball, did you see what a quick
what a quick review it? Once though, I mean, like like what to the reviewing and all they popped the score up final like getting the touchdown. Well, no, they said they changed I think it was a New York deal where they changed it on the field before the review. So they said, they said that they really should have reviewed it, but they changed it on the field and they said, first no, tesch and they said, on the field the score is a touchdown. And then we're not
reviewing it, which you know I was. I was going crazy, hallelujah that that I get the cover, but you know, a cover you certainly deserve if you have the Bears plus eleven on the in game at that point, the Bears were inside that you know, the ten yard line of Minnesota in the fourth quarter, like I don't know th times Cousins through for seventy seven yard It was a joke, it was I think about it. We've had
winning quarterbacks now. Cousins through for eighty seven, Carson Wentz through for fifty seven and that win over the Colts, and then most famously Mac Jones through for nineteen that came against the Bills. That's the greatest thing ever. I never got. What you didn't understand was that I was swirling winds. Cousins does everything you can't do to help. Anyways, what are the team? The teaser? The teaser records Gilly moves to seven seven and one. Mikey is also seven
seven and one, and I am nine and six. So that's where we are on the teasers. So hopefully we can turn it around here. It's a looks tough to me this week again, so we'll see. Alright, Uh, let's talk about game tonight. Any plays here, I already have the Titans plus three and a half. I'm on the Titans. I think the return of A J. Brown and Julio Jones, by the way, who can't finish games with hamsteing problems, but apparently it's fine to go here tonight. I actually
think that's a huge thing. I know that the Titans are without two of their offensive linemen, including Taylor the lawn, but you get when it was three and a half, I grabbed it. I think the Titans are extremely hard to evaluate because their last three losses they've been minus thirteen in turnovers, minus thirteen. They held the Steelers to twelve first downs in a hundred sixty eight total yards. Their defense has been playing well. So I like the
Titans tonight. Todd, do you have any thoughts on this one. I lean Titans too because I like, I'm not gonna play it, but I lean Titans just because I like Rabel in this kind of scenario where you know he's playing a good team, they're at home, Jimmy g who knows what you're gonna get? He could, you know, throw three accidental picks and they drop him where they catch him. I don't know this just this just smells to me like Titans at home. Plus three sounds like a lot
to get. So if I anything, I'd lean on the Titans. They're showing Game six of the World Series between the Cubs and the Indians up here. I'll take. I'll take. I think of the Cubs. I'm not sure. Russell Grant slam later in the game. Arietta, right, Arietta come back
in one game six for them. I don't remember. I don't remember, I remember fake to All I remember is Raji davis Is seven game seven home run, three run homer to tie it up off with a choked up to strike back would have been if Cleveland had held on, would have been one of the greatest moments in modern baseball history. And no one talks about it more because they lost. No agree with you there, Gil, And then that was what a what a what a great baseball game?
Now was really well, it's kind of like the sport peaked and at that exact moment, so great. Okay, you guys, Mike and he thought on the game, I like it over, you do, I do like it over. I think San Francisco is moving the ball despite Garoppolo, right, I mean to me, when I watched Jimmy Garoppolo, it's like the angle of the football when he throws it right. I mean he he gets the angle wrong coming out of his hand and it can go way high. I can
go release. Yeah, But the angle of the football when he releases it like that, the nose of the football. You gotta watch that because he gets out of kilter with it and then it takes him a while. But I think both these teams I agree with Gil. I think Tennessee will be able to move the ball to not a little bit on San Francisco. At to Todd's point, Garoppolo can score for both teams. You know he can.
He can do that. So I'm gonna go back to the well bet in a forty nine years game over this is my third best bet Todd over forty four and a half over forty four and a half Titans. I'm gonna make the Titans plus three my third as well. Now it's not three and a half, which I have in my account, but I'll take it. I'll take the plus three is my third best. Tennessee plus three, yes, sir, no no official play here. I would lean to the
Niners they're just playing so well. The only concern I understand getting Brown back is a big deal for the Titans, But the big issue more than anything for San Francisco is that travel on a short week. We're going two time zones. It's about as long as they're gonna make a team travel on a short week. So a little bit of a concern there, But in the end, I just think the Niners are much better than the Titans
at the moment, even with Brown and Jones playing. Uh, talk to me when Derrick Henry is back into into three weeks for Tennessee and its whole different story. Though Tennessee one of these teams that can still get a number one seed. They can still be knocked out of the playoffs in the a f C. All right, let's start with the best bets then, Jeff, you are the guest.
Jeff Parles, Ladies and gentlemen, par lay your number one best bet would be well, as we sat down, because we can't go more than five minutes without COVID news at this point. Uh, my number one play is going to stay despite the bad news against the side. I like Dalvin Cook is on the COVID list. Dalvin Cook is unvaccinated, so he is not going to be able
to play Jesus. But Gil, as you've mentioned in the past, they have as good of a backup as anyone behind Dalvin Cook, and he was just activated yesterday from the COVID list. So Alexander Madison is going to be able to go. And they play the Rams. They're getting three. We're starting to see we're gonna see a three and a half on this game. I would imagine, uh soon behind us three minus one fifteen on the Rams. So
hopefully we'll see a three and a half. But even at three, I like Minnesota in this game getting the points against the Rams. Are you seeing the line on this anywhere right now? I'm seeing it, and I'm seeing it in spots you guys, Yeah, I still see three, um on this. I know off the board in some spots. Um, But I would imagine what Cook's gonna mean a half point appointed most So Look, it's good at good at three, good to three and a half, obviously better than four.
But look, even though the Rams beat Arizona two weeks ago, you have to take that win with a grain of salt after what we saw from Arizona against Detroit, and what we saw really Arizona was was was backtracking a little bit leading in to that loss against the Rams and Minnesota. They're playing for the playoff lives if they lose a game. Now the news in New Orleans kind of makes that a little a little more complicated that race.
But if they lose a game, it's hard for them to get in because Philadelphia probably is gonna be his big favorite this week, gonna be favorite on the road in Washington next week, and then Dallas might not play their guys week eight teen. So I like Minnesota plus the three that will be my number one for this week. So what can I just say? Also something that the running backs make absolutely no difference. Did you see the Tennessee running backs Foreman running for like a million yards
against the Steelers? If if there are holes, there are holes, nausea. Harris is a fantastic running back. There are no holes. Wait a minute, okay, if if there take the wrong example. The one team where it does matter is the Tennessee No I understand. I know Derrick Henry Is is a standout, and He's all I'm trying to say is the best running back is like ten better than the worst running back, whereas other positions it can be sixty and better. Yes,
that's all I'm trying to say. And Derrick Henry might, and Derrick Henry might be the number one running back who's better than all other running backs, and he's a one point two versus everybody else is a one. You agree with what I'm saying. I agree generally, speaking with what you're saying. Yes, that running back is not a is not a super important position, but there are outliers everywhere,
and Derrick Henry would be the one outlier. Uh. I only used the example of Foreman just because it shows that Tennessee has a good line and that's why. It's another reason why Derrick Henry looks so good. Now, granted he's fantastic. Let me get back on on on point here. What what Jeff was referring to in case those have missed it again, We're doing this Thursday morning, and every
moment there's a different bit of COVID news. So he's talking about Dalvin Cook is on the COVID list, Alexander Madison came back off the COVID list onto the team yesterday. What what we were referring to with the Saints. Is that In case you missed it, this morning, Trevor Simeon first was announced on the COVID list for the New Orleans Saints, and then about a two hours later we'd say Taysom Hill was placed on the COVID list, which means that the New Orleans Saints on Monday night, a
game of tow seven and sevens playing each other. Ian Book is going to be the Saints starting quarterback on Monday night, So that game, that game is completely off the board. Couldn't even score against Clemson in the semifinal Ian Book, so he's also so there's no line in some places from Minnesota. Some places there are, but there
is no line anywhere from the New Orleans Miami game. Uh, Mikey here first, best bet you know, I'm gonna talk a little bit about or piggy tail off what you did um about Drew lock and I like the Raiders this week. I don't see how Denver can win this game the Raiders through fortune here, I mean the Browns too scared to go play action or throw a pass
on third down. I mean, you know, if you listen to Stefanski's comments the next day about you would have thought we, you know, we would have given Mullins to the ball and try to make four yards. He said that, Yes, he said that. I got something before you continue with this. So I brought this up on a Numbers game yesterday.
I was venging out between shows and around the Horn was on and they did a pretty much an entire segment on how they couldn't believe that the Browns didn't go for it on fourth and three at their own thirty and I watched it in horror, and I'm just like, what are they talking about? They had a third string quarterback, and I know Nick Mullins played well, but he's still your third string quarterback if you don't get the three
yards there. The Raiders are automatically in field goal position and they can actually gain yards and get a better field goal. Yes, I at it, they punted, and yes, I get it, the car got it them downfield, and yes, I get at the Carlson hit the game winning field goal. But we've gotten to the point now I have so
I have two huge pet peeves. Now we've got to the point that people who rail against analytics have no fucking idea what they're talking about, because they don't even know what analytics isn't what analytics isn't right, They're like, oh, it's analytics for every time. Listen, I'm an analytics guy. They should have punted. I'm an analytist guy. I'm I'm pro field goals in lots of situations. What you're talking
about half the time is not analytics. The other thing that that I'm saying with this around the horn thing is people think it's cool to go on four People think now who aren't into analytics think that it's correct to go on fourth down every time now, and I'm watching around the horn, I'm like, of course they should have punted the foot, But what are you guys talking about. They lost the game. Remember after the holding penalty or whatever it was, or man downfield, they didn't tackle him,
he couldn't. They let him get like that was the game, that was the big It's a good point, like because that has been completely forgotten where Foster Moreau was down and you could have had a tackled into bounds for a five yard game. Instead they did They did the little for a shoulder, shivered to tiptoe, tiptoe the sidelines, gotten next or seven yards and got out of bounty. And look the other thing is too like as soon as you knew that you were getting inside fifty five yards,
you knew Carlson was making the kid. Yeah, he's money. When do you have tod can I also ask you how can you harbor when he when he gets the touchdown to go down eight, of all the people that would do the new for two things, he decides not to go for two. That screwed me big time. But it's like, I don't I have no idea what this guy is doing. Sometimes he is, sometimes he Isn't I
have no idea what's going on? Correct, And so that's that his his was the cleanest example of what I'm talking about how people who rail against analytics have no idea what they're talking about because they don't even understand what analytics are going for two down eight. That's analytics going for two at the end of the game to try to win it down one is just a coach's coin flip decision. That's not analytics. So there's like we have people, oh, analytics, it's not analytics. You don't even
know what you're you're screaming about. In fact, how did he make the decision he went over. They have him on NFL. Mike Big guys, you want to go for it? Yeah, I think we can get it. Okay, let's go for it. Let's right. But everything but everything that goes wrong is analytics, and everything that goes right is take that analytic. I thought it. Give me a fucking bak. I thought that if Baltimore had scored with fifteen seconds left, I have
no problem with the decision. But even if he makes it to Rogers is forty one seconds and the time out, you're not out of the woods. You're probably losing either way in all honesty, Mike, just just because Rogers what they they a time out two left for green bag Like you know, he's getting a field goal range. It's just a matter of cross. Yeah. You and I agree though on one thing, which is the Chiefs Chargers game, because that was the first game this week brought up
all of this. I loved all of Brandon Staley's place, I really did, except for the one at the end of the first half. No advantage to even at the one over kick the field goal and go up seven and you get the ball back again, like stop it, stop it. On top of that. But on top of that, how can you make any determinations about analytics or not
analytics on three plays? It's meaningless. You need to see three thousand plays or three hundred plays, what happens on fourth and goal from the three to a hundred times, then come back and tell me. Don't tell me. And by the way, had he made them all that wasn't the right decision either. You have to look at the math, and the math is the math. It's not analytics, folks,
it's math. So if you look at math and it says shows three hundred times they went for it, and you get a better expected value by going for it, that's what we're talking about. And it doesn't mean he's wrong because you're By the way, you can flip a coin and get seven heads in a row. Would you still want to play a game where you gave me a dollar ten for every it's in the dollar for every tales? No, you wouldn't, So it's ridiculous. This whole
discussion is ridiculous. Well, because we're getting a cottage industry now, Todd. The reason that that it's it's so ridiculous is that we're getting in the starry recursing. But that's how ridiculous it is. And we're allowing this to spread like wildfire, like it's intelligent radio and it's not. And I wish we would stop. Is that we have this cottage industry of people who think they're the cool guys saying how analytics is stupid and they don't even don't they don't
even understand what analytics. Yeah, but they don't even understand what it is. And it's like this, Oh, you're cooler than we are. No, you're the one who can't see two sides of it. It's the analytics people who actually can see both sides, what's correct and what's not. And I'm so tired of this. By the way, Jason, you can cut out about five of those, but we've a couple in the bottom line is you could it doesn't
prove anything because Brandon's Staley missed it three times. Nothing does that prove If if I flip a coin I get three heads, does it mean that this coin will only get heads for the rest of time? I mean, it's so ridiculous. By the way, it's not cool if you're in the media and you're taking the approach that you're you're tired of that, you're you're not good at your job. You don't have to agree with it, but you have to know what is and what is an analytics.
Thank you. I was on I was on This Morning the morning show before yours, and one of my no hyperboles was specifically Arthur Smith not taking the field goal down eighteen. I'm with you, should have kicked One of the host that's filling in said said to me, I'm with you. I don't like this analytics. That's not what I was saying. I was talking about that specific situation.
But then why don't you bring why don't you raise your voice and say that exactly to that very very hard out there, and I still had I still had three more to get to. That was a very hard in six minutes, and I still had well the the going back to the Atlanta game for a second, because the one thing, and I agree with both of you,
that they should have kicked down by eighteen. They were in the one situation and where legitimately every freaking time they got it the fourth and one, which was the only time that Archer Smith the worst thing in the world. I've talked about this before. The it's the it's the the cruel trick of getting all the yards but one right, because it makes you you would have kicked the field if it was fourth. Matt Ryan throws every other passing
through in that game, wide and high and incomplete. You see Coo out there to get the field goal, to get into it. It was automatic, but it was It wasn't missing. It was automatic. But because it's the cruel trick of getting every yard but one, it all of a sudden changes your entire thinking with these coaches, like we're going for it, let's go. I don't care for it. Actually trademark that which rule trick of getting every hard but one, the cruel trick it is. It's almost like
that Grievances segment that turned into hyper Bowl. I hope I hope Todd that you took You took some solace in the fact that the progeny of grievances like the Catholics are the project Name of the Jews won the Mitchi Award for Best Segment, and I was still overcoming overcoming two of the numbers game out rushmore and you mentioned the awards named after the show that he's on. By the way, me getting thirty of of an award that is named after you. You went over you hit
the over there. Congratulations, Gills. I feel so great about it. I can't tell you. I don't store me. This morning I said I almost put my guys in the desert winning Best PM Show in no hyperbole. She's what you in store me where you were. Guys were very serious about she was I had no she ambushed me. I didn't know she would call on the whole V. G. K. Disney Empire to take me down. Mikey. No one was more serious than you were. No. No, I found out
I'm the first person to win for mitchi' Jeff. I wouldn't have known that, but someone pointed out, what did you point it out there? Rest of my kid pointed it out to himself. That's exactly what happened. I'm I won the I won the last eight Toddy Awards. Do you know you were in a category? Did you even know that? Yes? Yes, I don't know. Intrigued on the Hot Toddy Awards that would be yes. Did you give your your pick then full dissertation? Is it a pick? Todd?
What do you have? The number? And I see someone Raiders. Pick Todd, You're number one. I'm gonna do it with the Woofties. M Dallas Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys don't really impress me. So you beat up on all these teams that are completely decimated. You beat the Giants, you beat Washington, Uh, you beat New Orleans. Now you're gonna go and give how many ten and a half points? Do you guys? Have? Ten and a half or ten? Uh? Across ten and
a half cross the board on my screen. Okay, So I'm gonna go with the Wifties plus ten and a half. I think hopefully Heinie he is back to play for them, And uh, I just you know, it's an NFL game. It's a lot of points in an NFL game. And I don't think the wolf These are that bad, you know. I mean, even with their you know, fourteen string quarterback. They hung in that game against the Eagles for a while. Uh and uh, I'll take the wolf These plus ten and a half. Yeah. The point is it wasn't even
their fourteen string quarterback. They literally had to sign a dude off another team's practice squad. Like I mean, I talked with all my Washington football fan friends we don't even know how to feel afterwards. It's like, really, we're gonna look back on this season. We're like, remember we played a game in the middle of a playoff race with a dude from another team's brand. What happened to the kid from Vanderbilt? I thought he was going to
be the quarter Scharmer. He's terrible Fritch Scharmer's son, right Patch, Kyle Kyle Schmer. Yeah, I thought that he was in line to get the start I was in. The Steelers once played this. You know, a great organization, The Pittsburgh Steels once played a game with a guy named Duck at quarterback for a numerous games in the road. That better than Mason Rudolph. Okay, Todd is better than Mason Rudolph. They're both mats. Uh My number one we already said
was the Titans. So we're at the number two, Jeff. See, now this is where this gets difficult because we have no idea where who's gonna test positive for COVID next and miss these games. We also don't know if guys are gonna clear, Like we still don't know if Baker Baker Mayfield still in the list. K Keenum, we don't.
We don't know, so this is not a pick, but I just want to bring something up on the New Orleans Miami game because the lines are off the board when we're recording this with no Taysom Hill and no Trevor Simeons. Malcolm Perry is on that roster. Malcolm Perry is one of the best quarterbacks ever to play at Navy. Wouldn't you think Sean Payton would be smart enough to get a package on bare minimum on Malcolm Perry and then on Malcolm Perry many times in college he was awesome.
So just throwing that out there as a possibility because I'm I'm in Mikey's camp on Ian book that guy. So Malcolm Barry would play the Taysom Hill rolling. Yeah, possibly he is on the roster, so that that is at least worth a look there. Potentially have time to install the triple option. Do you have an extra day day? Right? Every days? Why? Why the hell out? At this point, I'm gonna take the Philadelphia Eagles. Laying nine and a half is my next pick against the Giants. Um, I
just the Giant. I'll lay ten. Then that's fine, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. What the number is. I know Siriani's out with COVID. I know there could be some more COVID concerns, but the Giants are just so unfathomly awful on offense at this point. I don't care if it's Glennon, I don't care if it's from Uh, it doesn't matter. They're not moving the ball against Philadelphia's defense.
Who I thought again, I know is Garret Gilbert. But even before that, other than the first half against the Jets, have played very well for the last month or so. Uh. Look, Jalen Hurts had the worst game he's had all year against the Giants the first time. He was clearly injured in that game, and and he's been healthy though over the last six weeks, Jalen Hurts has showed pretty well. Uh. And the Eagles need this game in order to keep
stay in the playoff hunt. Now with the news in New Orleans, they have a real chance of getting the seventh seed. So I don't care if it's nine and a half, ten, whatever the number you'll give me, Todd, I'll lay and with Philadelphia against the Giants. Wow. Mike Glennon and Jake from Ladies and gentlemen, Daniel Jones shut down for the season. Mikey number two. I have the same pick, Yes, number two. Ten's your one, are your two? That's my two and we already left. I only have
a two left. You can't trade up or down. Yeah, man, Mike, you're going the opposite direction as you guys because Tennessee was my three. Todd, you're number two. Uh, you know what, I'm just gonna. I hate to do this, but I'm gonna. I'm taking Denver. I mean, I don't like betting with those idiots. With that Fangio guy, I can't stand him. I just think that the Raiders are not a good team and they constantly do dumb things. Now, granted, they won the game the other night, but you know what
this so they beat Mullins. I mean, when does Mullins is an NFL He's not an NFL quarterback in my opinion. And they barely held on for that game. The three games prior to that, they got crushed by Kansas City. The Woofties beat him at home. Uh, they didn't have that miracle game against Dallas. But you know, I just don't believe in the Raiders, and to me, this is going to be one of those who cannot lose it versus who can win it. And I think Denver is
a little bit better at not losing it. And as we know in the NFL, a lot of it is just don't lose the game. Let the other team lose the game. And that's why I'm going to take Denver. Pick them. You're taking lock over Car. I'm taking lock over Car. Yes, And we still don't have a d I don't like Lack. We still don't the way I can't stand him. We don't have a Darren Waller update yet do we not trend? And well he didn't practice yesterday. My number two is going to be the Detroit football lock.
There we go. Uh, they're catching five and a half? I believe it is. What is it, Todd? What do you say? The Detroit Lions are catching five and a half? Yes, five and a half. Um, Listen. They're coming off an eighteen point win against Arizona. Game before that was sort of the Minnesota fallout game where they won on the last second touchdown. It was their first win of the year against Minnesota. They got crushed by Denver in between. But if you throw out that Denver game, which I
would like to for the purposes of this discussion. They've last games besides that Denver game. They beat Arizona by eighteen. They beat the Vikings by two, they lost to the Bears by two, they lost to Cleveland by three, they tied with Pittsburgh. That's the Detroit Lions since October. They've really had one bad outing one and they're catching five and a half at Atlanta against the Maddie Ices Jared
goff By. I don't know if you've seen these Jared Goff is on the COVID list, but I don't know if you've seen the reports from the Lions about Jared Goff how he's feeling. They have made a point now on multiple occasions to let everybody know Jared golf is feeling perfect. They're sort of like it's their passive aggressive way of telling the NFL, Hey, if you really want to play, as if you're really if you're really serious about asymptomatic players coming back and playing, we just want
to let you know Jared Goff is completely asymptomatic. So I think he goes and I'll take the five and a half on the Detroit Lions Jeffrey number three. I'm gonna follow Totty and take the ten and a half with the Washington football team on Sunday night. Look, Washington with Heinrich is a playoff back end, playoff caliber team. Yes, And Dallas breach, we we have you and I have talked about this on a numbers game. Dallas's offense since Dak Prescott hurt himself in Foxborough just has not been
the same and there's serious there. There's something still going on with that, with the with the calf for the lower leg or whatever it is with Dad, because that offense just has not been the same since he suffered that injury on the last play of the game in New England. So look, I'll take the ten and a half in Washington. They're stolen the race too, I mean if they get uh, if Minnesota goes down, New Orleans goes down, it will come down to that game and
in Land over next week against Philadelphia again. So I'll take the ten and a half with the Washington football team on Sunday night. Totty and I have some potty. Let's go skinnies. Mikey number one for you. My one was the was the Raiders, so he already has three. He is Vegas, and Okay, Todd your number three. I'm gonna go with the over. In the Lions Atlanta Falcons game. I think it's over forty three, over forty three Lions and um Atlanta. I just think that the Lions are
showing me a little bit more on offense. I'm not impressed with at Lana's defense at all. I think I think Detroit should be able to get you some point. It's over forty three is not a real high number in an NFL game. And Atlanta sometimes they can score, you know. I mean last week they should have a lot more than thirteen points against the good San Francisco defense. You know, they scored twenty nine in Carolina, they scored twenty one at Jacksonville, twenty seven in New Orleans. Sometimes
they can get you a lot of points. So I'm gonna go over forty three in the lines. Atlanta maybe get a win, and uh, somebody wine it goes over me. Okay, and my number one pick, because I remember I've been doing this in the hours. Order is and he guesses I'm going with the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, giving three to the Ravens obviously like the better two and a half, but I like them given three. There's a couple of things here. One, I think everybody's feeling real good about
Tyler Huntley. I think he's solid. I've even heard Chrissie Andrews was like, oh, Pittsburgh should trade for all Right. I haven't seen enough of Tyler Huntley to be making the proclamations that others have, but yes, he played a great game against Green Bay. That's one thing. The biggest thing though here for me, is is that the Ravens still don't have a secondary and what do the Bengals have, Maybe above every team in the league except for maybe
a couple great trio of wide receivers. And I think Joe Burrow gets the ball to Jamaar Chase pro bowler Jamar Chase by the way uh to uh Tyler Boyd and uh to T Higgins, And I think they absolutely exploit the Ravens weakness in the secondary. I think this is the Bengals coming out party once and for all. This game is for the lead in the a f C North. I like the Cincinnati Bengals by the way they whacked They whacked them that was a game though it wasn't hardball went for some fourth downs in their
own territory and got out of hand. Yeah, but since but Cincinnati dominated that game offensively, Chase did whatever he wanted in this and the one one quick thing on the Bengals here. Warren Sharp us sent this out earlier
today and I thought it was interesting. So the Pols are coming up playing Denver last week, the Denver Broncos the last since week so the last six opponents that the Broncos have faced are averaging thirty eight and a half points a game after playing the Denver Broncos, after going under their team total by an average of seven and a half points in the previous in the in the game against Denver. So from a betting perspective, a game against the Broncos almost minimizes what the market feels
about their opponent. In the following, correct kind of thing? Correct? I like that? Thank you, Warren Sharp, Thank you Parley. Are we already on teasers? Todd wishnev with the lead. I have the leading against the Todd, will you repeat to teaser records? The teaser records are met at nine and six, and you and Gilly both at seven, seven and one al right, which means, Todd, by the way, how did Derrick Stephens do last week in his picks? Do you have a record of that? By the way, yes,
Derrick Stephens. Uh. He went. He had Detroit with a winner, he had the Rams minus four and a half um and he had Miami minus nine and a half, which was which was a loser. And then his his teaser was the Ellie Clippers, Chargers and the Rams. So we hit so yeah, so hit. By the way, I got robbed on my teaser with the Pats plus eight and a half. The game was over there, just trying to run out the clog and Jonathan Taylor runs into the house.
That was not very fortunate. Even with that loss, even with my game, I'm still a game and a half behind you with teasers. Yeah, I didn't realize that fall in that far behind. All right, Todd, your first then on the teaser, I'm gonna go with the Green Bay Packers minus the one and a half. I am not a believer in the Cleveland Browns football team. I don't care who's playing quarterback. Give me the Green Bay Packers
just to win by one and a half points. And also give me the Bills plus eight and a half exact be going against going against my beloved Patriots. But I just think that the Bills are good enough to hang in. Remember the game a couple of weeks ago when Bill Belichick took us back to football and ran the ball on every single play and was they somehow win? But they did not win by more than they only one by four. And I don't think, I mean, the Patriots are not designed to you know, they're a run team,
and the Bills are a good team. The Bill should be able to hold, you know, hang in there. Point of clarification, are we continuing these records into the post season or these regular season tally's I'm I'm up for whatever you guys want to do. I think we should continue into the post season. In that case, I have the exact same teaser that Todd does, because that is
the best teaser on the board. Green Bay on Christmas Day down through the seven and the three, and then the Buffalo Bills up through the three and the I'm gonna take the Packers and the Chiefs, Oh, the Chiefs are gonna be what do you have him at ten? Right? Are they at ten? Right now. She that's it looks like, what are you talking about? Seven and seven and a half? You see seven half. I don't even see any seven halves. I just see tens and nines and eights. So we're
gonna give him. We're going to give him and half off Shore to give me eight. Make it, make it the middle. Okay, Chiefs minus two, and I'm looking at what I'm looking at one of the big off shores. Minnesota Rams game is off the board. The Kansas City and Miami games are not even to be found listed. They're not even up here. So what the Kansas City game? Why? Because we still don't know about Travis Kelsey Kelsey and
Tyree Kill. But you're willing to risk keep betting. Let's keep betting him because Tomlin can afford to lose now that he's back to five, you know what I mean, because he will not be less than five now he can If he would have lost, I can't go against him. But he can't afford to lose a game now that he's won a game. If the Pittsburgh Steelers somehow make the post easy, unbelievable, It's incredible. I thought they were dead in the water. Down thirteen and nothing against the Titans.
I gave them no shot. That would have made a large I would have made a large money line beat on the Titans, had I had you been been not sweating. And by the way, Mikey, how did you like the fourth and fourth down spot? I mean, how did these guys? I mean, this wasn't. This wasn't. By the way, I needed them to score because I had a bet on that, but I won't tell you what that was. But the point was I wanted them to score and fourth then
I'm like, are you kidding me? You're giving I mean, I'll take the first down, But it was it was so far away. How could you even miss it by that much? They missed it by yard and a half? I thought it was the rest from the Army Missouri game last night. They only needed nine yards for first downs in the fourth quarters, the clock stopping area a yard short one on the one at the end of the game. One way were MISSOO got the first got the fourth got the third down conversion was bad. The
one that Army got Army was legitimately too yards. It was I don't know. I said that, I see the clock stop right now? He's calling it time out here and they're moving to change. So glad we brought this up though, the one in the one in the Pittsburgh game. I I was on Tennessee right, so I'm like, oh my god, he didn't make it. And then the next thing you know, it's like this measurement and oh no. First of all, Tennessee was trying to rush the place because they're like, oh my god, I think it might
have give him his first down. Then the measurement where they put the ball, it was like credit card thin. But they they would have challenged, they would have challenged. It's clearly yard. But but what Jeff is talking about last night, dude, Oh my this this this game was hihilarious. So missoo. On their final touchdown drive, I literally I had I had Army on the money line, which got there thankfully as the last leg of the parlay, but I had so Massou's matriculating the ball down the field.
They're in the red zone and I'm like, fun, i gotta stop them, Oh my god. And then there's a play where I'm like, again, we were talking about walking away from the TV and the Denver since in any game it's clearly fourth and one, right, clearly fourth and one. I do that thing where you lose your concentration for a moment, and I'm like, okay, fourth and one and pass and then I'm like and then I'm like, why isn't there and he throws up. I'm like, first and
second intent. I think it was. I think it was actually third and one. No, no, no, it was fourth and you're right that the yeah, no, it was fourth and one. And then next thing I knew on the incomplete pass, I'm like, second and ten because you know on the bottom of the screen they put forth in one after the play and oh I didn't see that. But then if you watch, they change it to first intend and then he threw away and complete just threw it away. So that one was bad enough because it
was a yard. But the but just talking about them, they not only they not only moved the chains, they kept the clock running so nobody and they stopped it. They stopped it for two seconds, yeah, because I said, well, I would mon can call it time out in this spot. And then they see a movement that they wounded with like thirty eight, they started the game clock again. It's so arbitrary in these bowl games. You're betting on this, like yeah, whatever, it's very arbitrary when you're bet in
college total skill. And I do this because there's a couple of crews in the Big Ten. When they get the first down, they start winding. They don't have the ball in the hash right. There's a couple of these guys that are thirty seven are wind and others. It goes down to twenty eight before they start the game. Class. I noticed there was one arbitrary Bowl game a couple of days ago where they I don't think they even stopped at they just let it's amazing. By the way,
you guys are wrong. It was third and one, as I said it was. It would have been third and one, not fourth and one on that play because I knew. I was like, oh my god, now it's gonna be third and one, and I'm looking at the play by play. It would have been third and one at the Army seventeen, not fourth and one. But still the points still stands that it was a ridiculous call. It would have been I don't think you're correct. I think this was further
up the field. This was around midfield. Midfield By the way, don't you feel fortunate that Missouri stayed in hurry up? Once they had first to go with a minute and twenty ago. They kept could they could have they could have made amuse his time outs, but they didn't. Well, and then forget forget at all. I mean the cook legitimately missed the guy who had no one within fourteen miles down show i'd open. You know what I'm really
upset about is they didn't spike the ball. Corney Thomas, I gotta go back and find this game on demanding just listen to it. It is a It is a It's Shakespeare of bad announcing what's Parley's what's part my teaser? You go ahead, Todd. Just you can look at the play by play and you'll see we will, we will. Todd, You're probably right, because you're never wrong my teaser. My teaser is the same as Todd and Gills. I don't know how I with the way the numbers are right now.
I don't know how you can't go with with green Bay in Buffalo. I expect that game in Foxboro to be close, and I expect green Bay to wax h Clive, especially if Baker is in there. Um it was second and six from the Army twenty three with one thirty
eight left. He passed it for six yards. According to the thing for Army first down, it really should have been third and one right right, But Todd, what I'm saying is, so follow the play by play, so it would have been third and one there right right, and then then the the next place is then complete to make it second and tend So the next play, the next play, no, no, this is but this is what
I'm saying. So I didn't explain, right, So the next play, when it's an incomplete pass, then I'm thinking it's a fourth and one, but instead it's the second and ten. That's what's That's what I'm talking. Yeah, right, Uh, your teaser is the same as you're in, Todd. Yeah, same one. Packers Packers and Bills, Packers Bills, best teaser in the world. What could go wrong? What it'll be like, They'll be like that Cleveland that that campas Cleveland Raider teaser from
a few weeks that's right. By the way, did you guys think, because Jeff and I disagreed of this, did you think Belichick should not have kicked the field goal with nine minutes left to cut it to ten. Did you think that that was a terrible move? No? I didn't either. I think you could argue with a lot of time. It was a lot of time left. The big the big concern and that and and it ended
up happening, even though New England scored quickly after. Was my concern was that New England was only going to have time for one possession left because of the way Indianapolis plays offense. That was my That was my big concern on that. That's why I would have would have gone for now. If it was like fourth and twelve, I would say, fine, you gotta kick it. But it was fourth and six. I just find a lot of this stuff not you necessary. But I'm just saying a
lot of people just say, oh, that's terrible. Not the same situation. But remember people crucified him for kicking the field goal to go down twenty eight six and the Super Bowl. Remember wait, no, didn't they I thought it was twenty nine it was it was kicked to go to six. No, no, it was a touchdown. They went for two to make it eleven and missed twelve. He kicked the field That the reason that I know it was nine is because at the south point they had
a huge liability on nine. If New England had finished with nine points, another one of those Zach White deals, Yeah, it would have been. It would have been six figures. Uh in liability. You have Tampa Beta score zero points. Last week it was plus twelve billion. So by the way, Todd, you talked about the last play with the Bears game and the overrule change on the field, we had a guy make a very large wager and laid minus three forty that there would be a score. There would not
be a scoreless quarter, so we blow. It was a huge swing for us by that being that there would not Yes, no, will there be a scoreless quarter? He said, no, the fourth quarter would have been scoreless if they don't score in the last play. So he laid he laid three forty fe mid five figures and he gets there with that last touch the goodness. And by the way, a lot of people had the Bears plus uh plus seven,
like myself, And that's the Minneapolis miracle rule. You don't need to be don't but it does not change the result of the game. Yeah, though, when you google articles from right after that rule change. A lot of people like if it's the winning score, So I had to actually look it up in the rules, and it is any score. It is any score. What's happened a number of times now that where they get the touchdown the last place and they don't kick. Alright, we're down to
the final two questions. Are we already here? I believe we are. We are all right? Uh, final two questions, the first of which is which of the big favorites is the most likely to lose? Outright? Outright in this Let me get back to the board. By the way, you know, Chris Andrews, it's as if he's listening in to the megapod because I just mentioned how there's a prominent off shore that has three games off the board.
He just texted me randomly to tell me that the other prominent offshore, Pinnacle, has nine games currently off the board. So Pinnacle, the arbiter of beating closing line value, has nine NFL games off the board as we do this Thursday morning. Interesting. Interesting me ask you how many of them canna have off the board at about one forty five on Sunday. No, but you understand the point, Oh no, do you understand my point. We can bet all these games.
After the game started and we see who's playing, we see who's doing what. You might as well just wait, folks, I know you want to go to the picnic. I know you want to go to the barbecue and get your bets in. You don't need to go to the damn barbecue. Todd wishing everybody a lot of Christmas barbecue, picnic, lot of picnics on Christmas? Okay, whatever, you get my point. I can go picked up her son some other times on Sunday. What's that Jewish holiday with the cheesecake? Todd
lewis let The Gentiles love barbecue. We love it, they really do. Okay, it's not but you get my point. These people, they insist they got the game. Let's get let's slaughter one of the Oxen Barbecue. Alright. So here here are the big favorites. There's the most likely to He's a Christmas bar because a big deal, isn't it out in the backyard? Yeah, as long as the major doesn't catch fire? Tampa Bay? What do they do on Christmas? Wait, let me ask Mikey, what's the big deal on Christmas?
A big Christmas dinner Christmas Day lunch for a lot of families. That's going to Mass at midnight on Christmas Eve? Is it? Do you do that? Yeah? We always do. We always go at midnight even now. Yeah, yes, If Jeff and then Jeff Schwartz were here, he would have lost his mind right now. Old, Sorry, Well, there are questions about diet and calories. I'm convinced. I like to know what Mikey is doing on Christmas. So he goes
midnight Mass. Then you wake up late because you're up so late, right, I wake up late and open the presents and then go to the grandparents house in the afternoon. Oh nice, it's good and it's a big meal. There's a big meal, a big meal at the grandparents house. Because what do you have? No? No, is it turkey Flippino food? What is Filipino Christmas? Is it not turkey and stuff? Or what is it? No? What's their own food?
It's just they do not that they change. It's not I mean, it's Lumpia and Olumpia, Olympia's dig I had Lumpia plus two nine fans. You know, the noodles and all this. You know what I'll bet I'll be eating Chinese food on Christmas for sure. Christmas story, yes man, alright, Tampa Bay. Which of these is most likely to lose? Out right? Tampa Bay? Uh? Ten point favorites on the road against Carolina Philly, nine and a half of ten point favorites at home against the Giants, Chargers ten points
on the road against Houston. Banka Banga. Should I keep sepp in there? All right? I'll take Kansas City though, seven and a half point favorites at home against Pittsburgh and Dallas ten and a half ten point favorites at home against the Washington Football teamers. Who's the most likely to lose? Outright, Todd, I'll take uh, God, I guess I'll take what to beat the Cowboys? Cowboys? Jeff? Kansas City, Kansas City? No way are the Stillers beating the Kansas
City Stillers. I love the Picksburgh Stollers. I'll be the first person to tell, Yeah, have some parogies, have a bermanies, whatever you want to have. But we're not gonna go dinner. We can't go down at Kansas City and think we're gonna come out with can't. We just don't have enough on the offensive side of the ball. Thank you, Pet Todd. I will I will say this, the Steelers have reached the point where they are so horrible that they are still that that you know, the the old SA It's
so bad, it's good. That's kind of where we're at with the Steelers, where they're so terrible and they're still gonna probably find a way to have a chance to win the division. We gay team, Mikey, because we're a great organizations. I don't know that any of them are losing, or think that any of them are. But I'd have to go to the one with the coach coaching mismatch. I'll take uh the Texans to beat the Chargers. Do what you said set up. You can't wait when he
wins coaching there not this year. This year, I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with my buddy Jeff Parlay and I'm going with the Kansas City Omaha Chiefs. You're just playing against that you're worried about. The second here about the Steelers. Here's the thing about the Steelers. They have on defense like four legitimate awesome players Bushes on COVID though, but like Fitzpatrick, T J. Watt of course, Joe Hayden. They have players on defense that could mess with a especially
if either Kelsey or Hill can't go. Uh. I don't know how pens we're scoring. That's another story, but I think that's the most likely. It was our right because I think there's a scenario. And then the final question, Oh boy, with all these COVID things, who knows right here? But you have to make a play in every single game, but you're allowed one free pass? Jeffrey, what's the game? You want? No part of the Jacksonville Jaguars at my New York Jets. I second that, I'm going Denver, Oakland.
I don't want any part of that or Denver at Las Vegas. Pardon me. I would not want to bet the Miami Dolphins against the Ian Book led New Orleans Saints. Uh, you wouldn't. You're starting to see some picks reposted Todd. You still wouldn't consider Miami even even at a coin flip against Ian Book. Well, I mean, the Saints won a game without a quarterback last week, so why can't they do it again? I don't know, I don't. I
don't like that game. I'm not I'm not I'm not Miami Dolphins is not a game I wanted total might go down to thirty five. I'm just possible. We had this. We had this discussion on the numbers game. Dude to I say, conservatively, he's a top half NFL quarterback, probably thirteenth or fourteenth, even if you rank all the quarterbacks in the league. You say, what, I don't know. I think you know. I I think that once you get like past eight nine, that from ten to is like
That's that's what makes my statement correct. If you go if you can go through every single team, I defy you to find fifteen quarterbacks better than two a taga La plus two for the second straight year. So last year he had the smallest separation between his receivers and the defenders, so he had to throw it into the smallest windows of any quarterback in the NFL. This year, same thing. If you take Waddle out and you could talk about all his other receivers two point two yards
of separation, the guy has no help whatsoever. And by the way, Miami is still obsessed with the Shawn Watson. So after this season, I wouldn't be surprised if they picked up the Shaun Watson. I would happily take to h in the Burgundy and Gold. Where did you get that stat about the about the thing and who who's the quarterback? Get who has the most? Uh? That I do not know where did you get the stat? Though?
A little Bertie, little Bertie, because I'd love to I'd love to see Dr Eric, Dr Eric, as the stats told me. Yeah, I was guessing. That's just a guess. I don't I don't know that was Dr Eric, But I think that's where it came here because it's a huge it's a huge thing that that whole who has room to throw too? If you watch these games, uh, you know, it's a gigantic thing. And people think they can, you know, they can rank the quarterbacks solely, just you can't.
So much of it is who you're throwing too, and who if they're open, if they're not open, and all that stuff. Another example of how the human eye doesn't process that. But guess what does analytics? And also guilt? How about the telltale sign of all with this Tom Brady, who legitimately was going to waltz to another m v P award. All of these guys get hurt. No one can get open against New Orleans And now we're Tom Brady's the second favorite, after looking like he's gonna waltz another.
Can I say that m v P should be abolished in the National Football League? It is a pure team game, the m v P. I know, Visa loves to talk about m VPS all day long in the in the I know, like like if I if I listen to the Numbers game, we're gonna have the m v P and the G league discussion of the NBA. I'm the least guilty of that. We've talked about it, maybe for five minutes a week, just a numbers game. Numbers game. Okay, sorry, I take it back, I take it back. Not a
numbers game. But I hear this endless talk of m vps and and everything. Okay, fine, maybe people like it, that's fine. But in the National Football League, for God's sakes, it's a team game. It is not a a game where that leads itself to m VPS but the people trying to win money. Though, that's all I understand. I have no problem because of the swift dispensation of all the necessary things in this show, and we finished a few minutes early. Do we have time for a Christmas message?
Michael with his annual Christmas. But why is he laughing? I'm assuming that we have I'm laughing because because you can't just be Christmas like one day of the year. But go ahead, you love of my Christmas is for more than Christians two years ago in the holiday reflection, and I believe our audience is ecumenical. Right, There's there's a wide variety of creeds. We are now just a few days from Christmas, and many of us are preparing to celebrate that birth of birth that happened over two
thousand years ago in an occupied Middle Eastern country. Ideally, the birth of any child is a product or manifestation of love. A baby should be loved into life, irrespective of the parents or circumstances. Birth is full of wonder. People can easily become captivated staring into the face of the newborn. Such joy, such a miracle. But preparing for Christmas can be overwhelming. The decorating cards, sending Christmas plays and office parties, the ordering and shipping and shopping. Add
to that the problems we face as a society. Rampant inflation, supply chain shortages, stock market gyrations, new vaccine man dates, water shortages, riots, arson, mass shootings, smash and grab robberies, and political descent, and now a new, rapidly spreading strain of the virus. How do we keep ourselves safe? How do we keep our children safe? And, for many of us, the most important question, how do we keep our elderly parents safe? That sense of being overwhelmed can easily turn
into a sense of desperation or even defeat. So let's not forget the words of Luke. Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all people. For unto you is born this day in the City of David, a savior who is Christ the Lord. Do not be afraid. This isn't the first time we've heard this message. These words were spoken to Zechariah, to Joseph, to marry and to the shepherds. They were even spoken by the Lord himself to the
first witnesses of the resurrection. These are the words which signify God's deepest message of love and care toward us. Rather than wringing our hands over the worrisome state of our nation and world, we should celebrate instead a tiny baby, wrapped swaddling clothes and lying in the Bethlehem, Manger continues to overcome hate with love, evil with sacrifice, and wrong with right from our families. Dr gil Alexander Todd wished, if myself our guest Jeff Parls, we wish you and
yours a very blessed and joyful Christmas. One of the most glorious messes in the world is the mess created in the living room on Christmas Day. Don't clean it up too quickly, Michael Palm. Everybody very nice. And that's the way it ended on this megapod Week sixty to the National Football League. Good luck with all your I just have to that with can you do the ice pond? Can you do the ice fund on? Mikey. That's my favorite line from Mike. I grew up. We grew up,
we grew we grew up Catholics. We were just skeptical Catholics. We believe Jesus. We believe Jesus walked on water. We just thought was probably in the wintertime. My notes would be, I like the last line where you say, don't clean it up too quickly, so I could have done without the Christ of the Lord part. Believe differently, Todd and I wins a little bit on that he didn't how
he was sitting back in the chair and join it. No, I just I find I find the whole thing hysterical because we're all gonna act christ Like on one day of the year, and three sixty four days a year, we're gonna act the way the normal thing is. But whatever, it's all good. Well, I think it's a lovely in spirit. It's a lovely message, thank you, thank you, Like Palm, known for many things, including his yearly Christmas message, good luck with all your bets and by the way, can
I end it? That's ended? Good luck with all your bets. Week sixty to the NFL. Happy holidays, everybody,
