Beating The Book: 2020 NFL MegaPod Week 16 Preview

circus sports in general. How you doing, Mikey, Happy holidays out there to everyone, whether it's Hanukah or Christmas or Kansa or whatever they're China, whatever the celebrating. And then what wo what a guest we have today? I mean, well, let's let's just tot in here first quickly with his mom's cork attic, with the circus sports background. You doing, totty? My question is I heard Mike starting to wax romantic and I thought his Brent on again, No, the Brent incident.

Derek does have some comments about the great Trump tax lookbacks that he's very vor alright, So so the guests we have today, it really is special. He is the owner of not only the Golden Gate and the d where we broadcast from, but of course, uh the Shangri Law that is circa Downtown Vegas and of course all things circus sports. Derrick Stevens, everybody, I appreciate you doing this, man. Thank you so much. Gil. Thanks for letting me on uh on this on this podcast. This is ter This

is my first time here. So I'm honest. Yes, you finally reached the big time. There we go. I love it. I loved it. It took this long, uh, but we finally reached the big time. Listen the first thing before we get into all this stuff a week sixteen, because we'll go through best bets of that kind of thing. Uh. I got knocked out a circus survivor this week with the Rams. Our buddy Amal Shaw got knocked out last night. I thought he had the Titans, but he he told

me it was gonna take the Titans. He took the Steelers. Um, so we're out. There's fifty three left out of start things. But on behalf of everybody who has played this thing. Those that are out like myself, for those that are still in, thank you both so much for doing this This contest has been more fun than any a T S five picks a week thing. I know we do. You guys do the millions as well, which people love. But the strategizing of Survivor, which I know you knew

in advance, that's why you pushed it forward. Just a big thank you man. It's been a blast, even though it didn't work out in the end for us. Yeah, you know, I've always loved Survivor. Have had had a few good seasons and I've had had many more where I'm lamenting something like a seventeen point favorite that went down on Sunday. So the uh, the element of Survivor, I thought was was was just something that I've enjoyed

so much over many, many decades. And uh, you know, I just hope that everybody, you know, at some point, at some point you have to figure out how are you going to cash? So I just hope that anybody that really if you need it to Week fourteen, and then certainly with fifteen, I certainly hope everyone had an ability to cash in one one manner or the other.

And I think you know that this Week fifteen was an opportunity because you had some big, big money line dogs, you know, Jets at plus nine forty going off before kick and then yesterday you got plus seven forty or seven fifty on uh On on Cincinnati. So I just hope. I hope people that made it through week fourteen, because getting getting through week fourteen is very, very tough, had the ability to at least at least get your money

back and maybe make a little bit of cash. Well, I will be honest with you, because people afterwards there's two things about survivor kids. They when people who aren't in or telling here's what you should pick. I was like, am I in this? Or were you in this? Which the other one is after the fact, people saying that we're on Twitter like I hope you took the Jets money line. I'll be honest with you, dare. I did not take the Jets preflop money line because I was like,

there's no reason to, there's no chance. But when it got to thirteen and nothing in game and it was a coin flip at that point down thirteen, then I was like, okay, I'll play. I'll take some Jets money here coin flip and I was able to make my outlay back um and and a little something more that much. I did, but I didn't do a prieflop. That's that's good. I mean, you have obviously a little bit of advantage here being in Las Vegas, and you were able to

make that play. So not everyone is that that that chance necessarily to do an end game, you know, but but that's great, And I again, I just hope that everyone, everyone that made it to fifteen or week sixteen has has the ability to say, Okay, I put a thousand bucks out there and I cashed out, whether it's five grand or ten grander or more. Because I just think you get to that far, you don't have to win

Survivor to make money on the deal. You can still learn, can you can you just flashes up to the camera because I just work for the video. This is those of us who have played Survivor for years and years and years do these grids. We don't have a staff. As Mikey pointed out off air, that that laminates it enlarges it. But this is what it takes to sort of plan Survivor. This is what Survivor winners do, and even the best laid out plans like a mall like

I had, don't work. Out because there's a minefield still to navigate. Yeah, that's where I think, you know, laying out a nice grid, and you got to take a look at you know, take a look at the games earlier in the season. Which games do you really like? You know, when you just take take simply like back in August, like which games would you really want to take Kansas City? And if if that's your highest ranked team, which team, which which game? Games would you like to

take Seattle on? You know, And there's certain teams you might have a different field for, and everyone has their own rankings. Some people feel certain teams are better at home at night. You know. I'm one of those that feels like New Orleans is better at home at night. I think Green Bays better home at night. Same thing with Seattle. So you just try to try to put the pieces of the puzzle together and then you kind

of work your way backwards and segue through. But then as you as you just said, the best light planes often get blown up by week three and then you kind of start making it just with so okay, so this is the real question. And when you and I had before you ask questions, please just say one thing, Please, isn't it. Isn't it wonderful that a guy who starts a sports betting themed casino knows something about sports betting. Let me just finish with Survivor. Then you can really

can release some more of your aggravation. You and I spoke downstairs down by the coffee shops. I'm not sure how much of that you want to talk about in detail, but you are going to do this next year, Survivor, and you've got things up your sleeve, and you think it will be bigger and better than ever. I would imagine, well, yeah, we just haven't had a chance to, uh to get in the back room with Jeff Benson and Matt Metcalf and Chris Bennet and Mike and I and uh talk

through it. But uh but yeah, I mean I think I think everyone's enjoyed it, and I'd certainly like to grow this a little bit. Um, you know. The million dollar bonuses is something like we were joking about and follow the money that maybe I'm not that good in math because I didn't really think I didn't really think it was more than a fift she had. Somebody's going to hit it. But that's the big thing, and you know this from playing for all these years, no one

ever gets through. This was just a weird year where there were three teams you could bully. The fact that we have so many people have a shot at it is such an anomaly. Next year, I think even if you have five thousand entries, which you've may very well clear easily. I don't want to, you know, set it too high, but I think you may clear that easily with the with the excitement of this one, the chances of getting to the end are in a typical year

slim to none. I mean, this is totally an outlier. Yeah, I mean compared to years past. I mean, like you had said, you went against the Jets eight times. This is my eighth and final shot at them. And that's what's really unique about this. You know, you have the Jets giving your laps, you had the Jacksonville, and then you had since you know, you just had a few of these situations where where it happened, and until week fifteen,

you never had the big, big upset. I mean, yeah, you had a lot of sweats that came through, but but to have a fourteen and a seventeen point favorite go down in the same week that that's that's so unlikely. But usually you have a couple of couple of crazy things happened from week four to week eight, you know, and things like that, and it just never happened. The sweats were unbelievable, though they said, oh my god, I

had to I had them against the Raiders too. I mean, that was just one of the big moments that fourteen and seventeen point dogs have never won out right in the same weekend since ninety Yeah. And here's the thing. There was the two big upsets this year we're seven, both a touchdown with Jacksonville beating the coltson Week one as a touchdown dog and Dallas at Minneapolis as a touchdown dog against and they both took out large chunks of what was the field at that time, but nothing

over a touchdown. I am secretly hoping that Jacksonville and the Jets lose out so I can therefore say forever about this year and survivor. I had two entries, both got knocked out by one and the fifteen teams that would be I think there should be a prize for that. On sure, I feel particularly bad for the people that had Pittsburgh last night in this sense. They probably had planned to use them on Thanksgivings and the game got moved and so they were left with them in this

spot against Cincinnati that looked like a lamp. I mean, if you had the Jets and the Rams and Pittsburgh available, I think you're taking Pittsburgh. I think it was much I think it was much less likely that a finley led team was gonna upset a team that's at the top of their division. Then Darnel, who I mean, the Jets have to they should have beaten the Raiders, right, I mean, I agree. I mean there were so many of those Jets games that were sweats. Jets, the Jets

show up, the Jaguar show up, the Bengals. You could have made an argument they were the worst team in football headed into and uh and they get beat You're right about the Pittsburgh Thanksgiving thing. Of all the people that I feel sorry for, those guys, the ones that planned Pittsburgh for Thanksgiving, they got the screw job of anybody. If anybody can sort of cry about it was them with with me in the Rams, I said it on a numbers game. Uh, there's no self loathing. There was

not a second, I was gonna pick anyone else. They lost and that's the game. You just gotta take your lumps. Uh And the next week, next next year, are they gonna do it so late in the season you'll have to pick two teams so that it can win o the field out more because I know in some survivor pools when there's too many people left at the end, they make you know that that's something that's been brought up a few times. Um, picking two at the end

of the year gets gets pretty pretty pretty difficult. One thing that Mike and I got to talk through is, you know, there's a potential schedule change in the works here in the NFL, and if that happens, that's going to clearly clearly impact our thought process. But if we go to a seventeen game schedule with a double bye week, that means we go to a week nineteen. So if that's the case, that kind of changes some of the

some of the math on what's going on. We love that, we love the Thanksgiving Day component, but if if this schedule change happens, that means it would be you'd have to go twenty and oh next week if this gets approved. But but it looks like this is the this is the way it's going or nineteen, you know, next year, because because it would be there, there would be uh, there would be two bye weeks by weeks. Yeah, we're still throw the Thanksgiving in that Really that really added

the wrinkle that it was the prayer. Like I said, I had everything planned before and after, but Thanksgiving? Now, had you there was no way to know this. But had you known that a third game would get canceled, you wouldn't have put in the Thanksgiving with just two games, right, No, I think that would have been That would have been a little a little crazy. I mean, you know, back in back in the old days, you had you had one,

he had one game. He had the Lions game, and then what about forty years ago that we became Lions Lions earlier and then the Cowboy game later and uh, now, you the fact that you gives you a little bit of pressure to save six teams really changes some of the dynamic how you looked at things early. Yeah, that that's the unfortunate thing. I mean, but there's so many unfortunate things with schedules. So what can you do? Last thing about this? Before we get to the to the

show itself. Uh, and we'll run through that millions. Are you as fascinated by the race for Last Place as I am. I love the Booby Prize absolutely absolutely, you know, and look at look at look at the numbers here. I mean it's just as difficult to to have an inverse inverse. It's almost more incredible. Yeah, because the circuit quarterlies didn't affect them either. They just plowed through those, right, So it's incredible. I want to talk to that person.

It's more intriguing than the top. Actually it is. And we had that debate. Todd and I are lined on this. Todd and I think it's completely random, and I believe you think not what Maybe it wasn't you, Maybe it was our guest, Maybe was Chris las Vegas. Chris, he thinks that I don't want to attribute to him. But whoever the guest was that week. They're like, no, no, no, it's a skill, and I'm like, it's not a skill.

They just managed to suck through it all because if it was a skill, you'd go for the win, right. I think that you make a decision about week three or four, after you've done poorly that now you're gonna go for last. I think you have to make that decision quarter least as hard. No, it's just just as hard to pick. It's just as hard to pick the losing teams as it is to pick the winning teams. Because if you can pick all losers, that means you

can pick all winners. Uh, thank you. If you start poorly, you have an advantage, except it's paying one instead of fifty, right, I mean obviously that's the difference. Yeah, I'm with Todd. Todd, you're right. You know if you were let me ask you this. It's if going into week uh, into week thirteen, Yes, the start of this five week fourth quarter, you were in tent the Booby Prize, would you try to do well in the fourth quarter and win that quarterly? Oh?

I would. I would try to get the Booby Prize. But trying is different from that being a skill, like I would try and then I'd be good just as randomly. I don't. I don't think you can try to. I don't think anybody starts out saying I want to be get the Booby Price. Now we get that, but what we're saying is there's no specific skill to losing. Instead of win, yes, because if there was, you would just

be awesome from the beginning. But Todd has that skill, right, I mean because God, here we go, here we go. I have that's you know, that's right, especially because I'm leading the teasers, and that's a nice little set up for us to give the records in three other picks. You only care about It's like, you know, you only care about the teasers. Gill only cared about survivor. That's right, only care about trying to put the best phase forward. Here is need to twenty and three Mikey and three,

and yes I had an O and three last week. Ouch, I'm twenty and twenty four and one. I was going to take the chiefs with you guys. But notice how had we all taken the chiefs, we didn't end up losing, but we still would not have all ended up winning. So that is hysterical that you just cannot win when all three of us like the same ones. Now, as far as the teasers go, Gil is at nine and six, Mikey is a ten and five, both excellent records, but not elite like the Great one eleven and four on teasers.

That's right, me, the Great One eleven and four on teasers. Thank you what you say? Your actual record was in the A T S? What was it? My A T S is poor and one. But everybody knows you shouldn't be betting pregame NFL pits against the spread playing in game. Now. Look, you'll learn that kind of thing on a show called The Numbers Game. And I once knew a great casino owner who said Wish Wednesdays on the Numbers Game was the greatest radio program on the network. And you know,

I'm not gonna mention who that is. We all know who it is, but whatever it is, Derek prefers his jews in in plural. He just doesn't like one guy. He likes more than one. He said that Grievances was the best segment on the network and he wished there was a goyam version of it, and then and then no hyperboll came. That's right version. All right, Let's start with theam version and slightly less intelligent about as much intelligence.

Al right, we don't we don't have a Thursday game, all right, And there's no need to parse out the Friday or Saturday games. Let's just go through the whole schedule. We'll start with the best bets. Uh, Derek. We usually start with the guests, so we'll start with you. You You are the guest here. Um. I don't know how much prep you've done for this, but I'm sure you're betting these What are your what is your first best bet of the weekend against the spread in the NFL this

year or total in this week in week? Well, the one thing I like is I like the fact that they changed the schedule a little bit. So so we get four games at at at one, six, and four and then still stink up the Sunday though, but yeah, four early, but but at least we're not buried buried uh Um with this disproportionate type of type of deal right now, there's there's you know, there's a there's an element about about the Detroit Lions that I just I'm

just so against right now. So, um, if I had to take one play right now, I think I would go with with with Tampa Bay. Detroit defense is a sieve and uh, you know you're you're firing your the team's lost. You have a temporary coach, you have you have an argument um within ownership of who's making the call. Um you know, they just brought in Chris Spielman to to help as an adviser to the owner. Um, he's probably one of the only only football guys in the organization.

And uh, I think they had to do that because, um, you know, when after they fired Quinn and Patricia, the first three g ms that the interviewed were all from withinside the organization. And I think the whole city Detroit's go, no, no, we have to go outside. We have to go outside. So right now, if I had to take one bet right now, it would be it would be the Bucks. What do you think of what do you think about Solid being the front runner for the job just because

he's from the area. Yeah, he's a he's a dearborn Fordson graduate. And uh, that's the west side of Detroit and there's a lot of people, a lot of people of pulling for him. Is the d for Derek or Detroit? Um? Both both town and town? Yeah, throw that in there in downtown and um, Pistons, red Wings, Uh, Lions, Tigers, How does your fandom rank? It's definitely Tigers is one. Oh, I like it, Lions too, red Wings three and in a far, far, far distant distant way back there is

the Pistons. I did love the Bad Boys. But but I'll tell you what, the Pistons lost a lot when they moved out of the Palace of Auburn Hills and moved as the secondary tenant at Little Caesar's Arena, and they lost the entire fan base. I mean, it's about a fifty mile drive, and I think they lost se the fans and there they since they moved in here into the new arena, they're really struggling to get four thousand people of game in Detroit. But you had to

love Isaiah and Bill Lamber at the time. I love lamb Beer, I love Joe Dumars, Vinnie Jens, nobody. But that's nobody's gonna say that he's not Phrasi's Chicago hitch in the back of the head during a fight like Joe Dumars. Joe Dumars and Bill Lambier were loved Isaiah. Let me ask you this, talking about the four sports, rank these four people as how beloved they are in

Michigan and specifically Detroit. Okay, you ready? Yeah? Boshem Beckler, Scotty Bowman, Jim Lee Lynde, Jack Daly, Wow, good question, Like paulm you should have your own show. I would tell you, like you could do a great show with a guy from Pittsburgh. Would have been amazing. But you know, I don't suggested it, Todd, I've suggested it. I would tell you. I would tell you it's gonna be it's gonna be two of those four. And depending upon your

your background, it's it's either gonna be Shechem, Beckler or Daily. Um. Everybody loved Daddy Rich and uh he was something in Detroit with Chuck Daly. Everybody loved, loved, uh Bo Sheen Beckler, unless you're maybe a Michigan state person Leland. Leland was beloved as well. And then it kind of goes through. What if you substituted Eiserman for bowmen? Yeah, bowman bowman. Um. I would not say he was ever beloved Detroit guy. Everyone liked him, nothing against him, but he was never

considered really a Detroit guy. Eiserman on the other hand, Yeah, I mean Eiserman's at a whole nother level. I mean Aiserman could run for anything, anything he wanted to, and he's gonna win it. He's uh, he is beloved. He'd beat John Engler. He could run under Eddy Ticket and he would win in uh in Detroit, that's all right. Derek's first pick Todd Court stenographer Tampa Bay minus nine and a half over his beloved Detroit lines. We don't know if it's Stafford, or we think it's Stafford in

this game. We don't know yet. Stafford seems like you'll play unless his brain is damaged. Does it even make a difference? The defense is so oh, Mike, you know that what was the biggest well, the Patriots where there were the Dolphin. The Patriots were steamed, But you know what was the play? Everybody was betting Detroit here this weekend? It made no sense, down, down, down down. The two moves I didn't get this week. Why does everybody pick

in Denver against Buffalo? That line moved against Buffalo? And then the infatuation with the new England Patriots week after week is just mind buckled. Your top play was Miami, Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna be a lined go ahead, Mikey, I will tell you this. I bet the Rams plus three. It's not available anymore. That would have been my play at number one. I thought that line was ludicrous when it came out, but it can't. Now it's one and a half. I forget it. I love the I love

the Dolphins going to play Mariota this week. Okay, in Lombardi is right. It's different when he comes into a game and a team hasn't prepared, like the Chargers had not prepared to play read option against car who doesn't really move around at all. Right, so he gave him a lift there last week. I think this Dolphins defense will give him no air. They will give him no air. He will struggle, he will have to make passing plays. They're not gonna let him run the ball. Mariota, Mariota.

They didn't let really let New England run the ball. New England wanted to run the ball. They really couldn't run the ball. They forced him to throw the ball. And you know, two it does what two it does with the you know when the ground game is going to play, action works. This team is good. You made a good pick. You didn't know Buffalo would be this good. But you made a good pick at that price for

Miami to win this division. There that they are that good by the wayside, But it was a good It was a good great but everything else, the season, wins playoffs, you year there, Um, I'll take the offense like two and a half. Here at Allegiance, it's three. Now it's three year old baby. But no, no, there's a few threes that one. Oh, I see three, I see three. Feel like I feel like we have a guy in negotiating at the Las Vegas Invitational tennis. That's what I

feel like. They're my number two pick as well. We can knock out both of these at one shot. Uh. And I would add to Miami's performance last week. They didn't have their three top receivers. They didn't have Devonte Parker, they didn't have Grant, they didn't have GISICKI at least one of those guys is going to be back. Give me the Dolphins. They have not let me down all year. They're my number two pick minus three against the Raiders, who I think talk about a defensive sieve. Oh my god,

are they bad so bad? Miami is my number two pick. Uh God, number one. You guys did the same thing to me as last week where I wanted to take the city. Now I can't take Miami again. It's it's almost vanished to have to go last every pick, so there should be some kind of snake draft here. But okay, whatever, Todd. When you're trailing, when you're trailing by four games, keeping you have to try to make up ground on that's right, you gotta get I don't trail by four first of all,

I don't trail by four games. But whatever it. Thank you, Thank you, Mikey. I agree with the game theater and you just want to do teasers from that one. I'm gonna four teasers. I'm gonna do team totals like you can do on Draft Kings in game. Can you believe that you can do in game team to I freaking love it. Anyways, Okay, I'm gonna do something similar to

what Derrick Stevens did. Derrick Stevens because he's a smart gambler realizes if your own team stinks, you gotta go against him, and very often you know your own team stinks. So I'm gonna do this in in the voice of a uh inser because people seem to love the inser guy. And I'm gonna take the Indianapolis Colt and that and I'm gonna take the coal to that and what aren't we got as a line? What what's the line for

the Colts one and a half and a half. Okay, So I'm gonna take the Colts minus one and a half against my beloved Stillers. And the reason I'm gonna do that is we stink the Pittsburg Stillers. As we said a number of weeks ago, the Ensors can't run the football. They can't run it for me liberty to Downtine, they can't run it from shady side the bell vernon. They just cannot run the football at all. If this was the Pittsburgh Penions, they look like a last place

offensive team. I don't know what to say about this Stiller game. Last night Tarko said something about this is the worst offense since the night six Stillers who were run by Mark Malone. What are we doing on offense? We cannot move the football on the ground. And if everybody knows you're just gonna just throw the football every time you don't have a chance, you might as well just go home and have a big mill, because you're gonna be depressed than just wallow in your food because

you've got no chance to win a football game. If you think you're just gonna run the ball for one yard and a clad of dust. So I'm gonna take the Colts here. I hate Philip Rivers and that I'm in a group called Philip Rivers Anonymous where you don't bet on him or you don't bet against them. But here's the thing. I'm just gonna have to take the

Colts because my stillers look like a lapidated bunch. I don't know what happened to this crew, but I think the Ravens figured him out in that game when they didn't have the quarterback. Defensively, then every I'm going out of N'ZR talk for a minute, Washington figured it out. I think sometimes in the NFL, when you figure a team out on tape, you get the all twenty two going, and somehow the defensive coordinators figure we play all corps, you know, uh to whatever whatever the defense is, you

just play that defense. And this team does not have an answer. We do not have an answer the Cincinnati Bungles. The Cincinnati Bungles are not a good defensive team, and they made us look ridiculous. No, you're telling on me that Frank Wright is not gonna be able to cook something up against us, even with Philip Rivers I'm taking the Colts minus one and a half. I'm depressed that I have to do it, but yeah, I have to do it. I promise you. I'm not doing this to

protect the lead. They're my number three pick, the Indianapolis Colts. Uh. Todd's right. They went from by the way, Pittsburgh went from a two and a half point favorite to the Colts being a one and a half point favorite. I don't care big Ben last night seven and sixteen for nineteen yards in the first half. That was the worst half of offensive football I can remember seeing. You'll have to jog my memory if there was a worse one.

Big Ben was overthrowing. He was underthrowing. By the way, his babbit was great, Todd, he should have had two more picks in that first half. I got really close. Had that William Jackson got caught an easy interception late in the game, it would have The Steelers cannot run the ball. If you cannot run the ball, you can't just throw every down. It's not gonna work. That's right. They can't run. Big Ben can't throw the ball downfield.

It's all short. It's not creative. As Adam Turnoff said here on the show, and I was talking about, Okay, who's the team that you don't want to face all the Washington boy, you don't want to face them in the plaoffs. The Steelers are the team everybody wants to play in the playoffs, everybody, and they're lucky they've clinched the playoff birth how about the Browns being alive to win the a f C North Steelers could go from eleven and oh to be in the four or five

seed now or seven seed could be. Yeah, they could be if it plays out like that. Amazing. So that's my number three. So I'll just give my final pick, which is actually my number one because I got my two and three already in Miami and Indianapolis. My number one is also on Saturday, just before the Dolphins games, the second of three. I'm on the Cardinals minus four and a half. This was four earlier today, but is it four and a half, Todd I have for the

Arizona Cardinals. I have four and a half, okay, four and a half. Arizona minus four and a half. I think the Niners. First of all, they've been dealta horrible hand this year, no fault of their own. It's a lost season. They're playing out the string, but they've been vagabonds. This is gonna be their six of seven weeks in the state of Arizona. This is actually a scheduled game. Where's a road game in air Arizona after they had to leave Santa Clara County and play home games in Arizona.

Kyle Shanahan has already been out in public saying, Oh, this team is gonna be home for the holidays with their families. I don't think they're mentally locked into this game at all. I love the Cardinals here. I think Nick Mullins is very average and I'm being kind, and I think Kyler Murray makes enough plays here. Arizona certainly has warts, but I think the Niners are home for the holidays, and more than just physical, I think also mental. Arizona minus four and a half is my number one

play along with my two and three Miami in Indiapolis. Mikey, you're number two. My number two is my favorite coach, Anthony Lynn. I skip Derek. I'm sorry, Derek. You two and three right, you can go after me. Wow, I'm gonna lay three points with the Chargers at home and so far against this awful. Denver broncois like this team is, this team is just now done. I mean the defense was a sieve on Saturday. What did they have to play for? I mean they have no quarterback playlock sucks.

The Chargers are still a talented team. Uh And I don't think. I don't think. Although Anthony Lynn makes every game a one score game, let's hope it's not a field goal and a push here. I I just think they're too good. Imagine this, Imagine this. If that doctor hadn't stuck this year, he had never seen the fielding setting every rookie record, that's how good he is. Having had to play under that idiot christ Ball and horrific offensive coordinator that we have at U and l V

now and then Anthony Lynne, this kid is unbelievably good. Um, that's my play. Go ahead, Derek Bill. Do you want to give him a Gil Alexander here? Because he's trying to pull a Gil Alexander. Minus three minus five on the first game I picked was the Dolphins are minus one oh five and spots. So I mean, it's still it's spe silly, Jerry. I see minus three even most places. But will you you make the decision as the senior

love mentor let's give him the minus three mins. I never have to hear from him again on this Mine didn't come into play. I wanted out right easily. Was your tribesman, Juice Schmoos? All right, Derek, I'm sorry your number two, number two. Um. I love the way that Jets played the other day. I just thought, I just thought that they played actually to win, and uh, Cleveland, Cleveland looks good. I like Cleveland a lot, but but I just thought, what the Jets did? I mean, think

about who who won in this game. There's not a single single person in New Jersey or New York that one other than one and that's Sam Donald. And then you got the whole, the whole, uh, the whole uh Jacksonville fan base one on this deal as well. I just think I just think the Jets are actually a little bit better than a one win team. They've stayed close the whole time there at home. They're getting nine, and I thought Cleveland looked so good recently that I

just think there's numbers a little bit too tall. We'll give you nine and a half. Also, there's it's only nine in circus sports but if I get the hook up, I'm happy to take it. So I like, I would take the Jets. I like, and I agree with what you're saying. They are better than a one win football team, absolutely better. I you know, I thought two and watching

the game, I was really impressed with him. But when you go back and you look at the box score on this game, it's not as impressive, right, I mean, they only had like two yards in total. They got the short fields. Golf was so bad in the first half, turning the ball over. But I mean, I guess at the end of the game they were able to get two first downs right and run and run the clock out. But it was a limited offensive performance to go in

there and steal that game. It was so brutal having the Rams and Survivor because you could tell they were complete no show. Then you had the Jared Golf face right, which is like reminiscent the Flacco face of the cutlor facer, Like, I got no shot. But then when the Rams made it close, they had a punt return where I'd love to see the overhead footage because it looked like the simple webster went right into the punter and it looked like you had the whole field. The punter was fifteen

yards off a side when he veered back in. I don't get it, And so that was frustrating. The other thing, of course, when you know they decided we're not going to kick a fifty five yard or to try to tie it. We're gonna go for it on fourth, and I don't know where Sean mcveighan's and Jared golf starts, because it seems like, here's your play, and then Golf just makes the poorest decisions every time he's like, I'm gonna throw it downfield. See what happens. I'm like, okay,

we're so screwed. So it's almost like, you know, they could just throw five yards over the middle and whenever they wanted. It was like Big Ben on that drive to get them within seven, all he did was throw to the back. Every down was just a little pass out to the back. They come up, they come down now at the end with with the with two minutes to go, and every throws down the field. Everything, I mean, the last drive was all dink and dunk. They had

time two minutes and a time out. The inconsistency was really amazing. I mean, if we were, if we were, if we were talking here, and let's say this was seventy two hours ago. The sexiness of the Rams to win the Super Bowl was. The defense was unbelievable, There's no question. And because somebody asked me yesterday, we took a ton of Rams to win the Super Bowl. Money last week, now we won't get a dollar on that.

This week, the inconsistency of this team was really amazing that you know, um, eight days ago that you look at this defense and he thought, oh, this team could actually do something. I agree, and I would saying that our a numbers game. And not only that, I said this week, I have, after having been someone who had the Rams and survivor how many times during this Ram Seahawks game, and I'm am I going to say the phrase some variation of the phrase, where was that last week?

Because you know they're going to show up, you know they're gonna play great. I think they're the best game of the year now, golf set. After the game, he goes, we have a game coming up next week that we're going to have to win anyways, and I think we know that, Like is ever anybody admitted after the fact that. Yeah,

we didn't. We didn't care. It was so bad. The first day you feel good in a big spot backing Jared Goff, it almost feels like you're backing Philip Rivers late it just me it gives you just a horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach. You know that of kid, he's got the deer in the headlights. Look, I just don't I don't trust that kid. I just do not trust him. Rams. I don't think he's ever gonna win the Super Bowl. In the first half against the Jets, five points one blocked a pick total of

three points in a total of ninety seven yards. First half against the Jets. Anytime they had any pressure, he just went down. He would just tuck the ball that face. Where are we? Number two? Number two times? I wanted to go with the Miami Dolphins, but you guys stole my pick. You guys stole my pick last week as well. I'm not gonna take the Dolphins because Mike explained to me game theory. He thinks he's so much smarter because he's from Iowa. Okay, I got the song in. I

got the song in. Otherwise people complain if I don't sing the Miami Dolphins song. So I can't take the Dolphins because you guys stole that one away from me. So I'm gonna go with the under forty six in the Buffalo Bills New England Patriots game. And the reason I'm doing that is, Um, I'm not sure New England can get a touchdown. I mean, this team offensively is just unbelievably difficult to watch. Um, Cam Newton, what's going on? I mean, You've got the Hall of Fame coach of

coaches and you still can't complete a pass. Now, granted the receiver stink. I mean, if nikkil Harry is your is your answer, that's not gonna, you know, get you anywhere now. I mean, basically, what's the Patriots offense? They give the ball to that guy who didn't play last week and he rams up the middle for six yards. Is a good play for them? I don't see how the Patriots, even though Buffalo, I'm not like incredibly impressed

with their defense. I think their offense is fantastic, but I don't see them scoring a lot of points against anyone, and that includes Buffalo. I believe the first game and really wasn't that high scoring the game. It was a really low scoring game. There was some touchdowns late and that's how it got. I just don't know how you can make an over under forty six when New England's involved. Belichick knows he's got to keep the score down. He's not winning the game against Josh Allen. It's just not

going to happen. So so Bill Belichick knows, we've got to run the ball. Smash mouth football is our only hope. We gotta keep the score low, we gotta keep the clock running, and maybe he you know, I think he's gonna keep it under forty six. I mean, I don't think he's gonna win the game or anything, but I do think he's gonna slow the game down. And in New England's offense is just it's hard to watch. I mean it's really hard to watch, alright. Number two from

Dad under Buffalo, New England. Derek, your third and final, third and final, What is the total that you would give me on the Dolphins Raiders game? Dolphins Raiders? I have forty seven and a half, Gil, What do you have? I have forty seven and a half. All right, we're gonna hold tight them. I'm gonna go with the football team. I love how disciplined you are there. We'll go with the football team. Then, Leon, what what we gotta one and half on the football I see two and a

half extra juice, two and a half. Let's give the man two and a half. All I have this two and a half, two and a half, two and a half. All right, then it's one and a half right here at circuit sports? What what are we looking at against yourself? There? Derek? Would you like to bet against yourself? Look at this? It's fun and a half right now, Derek is becoming very agitated because of his own circuit sports. It's one and a half. One of the census in far away places?

Where is this line coming from? The line is off shore line with an amalgamation of different lines in both the US and that's right in other places. Yeah, so so the numbers two and a half. Yeah, you don't like that. Don't like that. That's a whole point. It's a whole point. You might have to go back and a half, might have to Okay, we're gonna if I kick one and after that we're gonna go over forty seven and a half with the with the Raiders, here's

the thing. I have to take this game. I have an opportunity to do something I've never done before this weekend and Mark Davis calling, he said, hey, I want to go watch a game with you, and I want to go watch the Dolphin Raider game. I said, okay, I'll get a booth over at the sports book in Circle and He's like, okay, I prefer to go watch the pool with you. Go watch it at Stadium Swim

on the day after Christmas. I said, okay, so we got a cabana, so I'm gonna I can't take the Dolphins because it would be it would be a difficult, difficult day for me. But I but I do like Jah Jacobs, I do like Waller, and I do think, uh, we're gonna see to to light up light up the Raiders d a little bit. So I'll go over the forty seven and a half in the Raiders Dolphin game on the day after Christmas. I love that comment. I can't take the Dolphins because it would be a difficult

day for me. Yes, we all, we all understand that. By the way, I got my cabana from March Madness Day two excellent, excellent wiken is the Raiders defense almost the worst in the league. I mean, when you're watching that Charger game the other day, you're like, there's no way they can get a stop. We could play five hundred football games. They're not getting a stop. And even though two of my cades to and granted to has been you know, average ish, they're gonna move the ball

in the Raiders. I mean, come on, everyone moves the ball in the Raiding. They didn't have in that game too. They didn't have a few guys up there, Farrell and abram Ley to my leap to mind, Mikey your last one. Yeah, I think I'm gonna play a total here. I think I'm gonna play the Steelers Colts over forty five and a half. That the number todd for Pittsburgh and the Colts. I have give even something better. Let's go over forty four and a half there. I just look now, the

Steelers are just gonna throw every down. Okay, this game went over last night a low total of forty because they were even finly had a rushing touchdown in the turnovers. But watching these Colts games, I mean, they go up, they go up and down the field, but they let other teams go up and down the field. To remember, after the first four weeks, we were annointing Matt Eberflus is gonna be the next head coach. He was the

hot commodity right what a great defense he had. And since then, I mean, they're they're giving up thirty one a game. I just I think when you have a team like the Steelers that aren't going to run the ball, it's it's hard because you get an extra two possessions in the game because the clock doesn't stop on these incomplete passes. So that's a pretty low total for the NFL as well. Forty four and a half over Did you lose that? Did you lose that? Over? In the exactly?

Fumble going into the end zone twice? That's that's twice. That's that's two times in three weeks. And he fumbled and then they fumbled stretching the ball to the end zone in the now would not be the time to tell you I had the Colts in both of those games. That's okay, I didn't have I didn't. You know, it's a pick on here, you know what. You know what I love about mikey as you never know when the emotion is gonna come. But it's it's just it's mind

blowingly frustrating that these idiots throw me. And I mean, what is DeShawn Watson doing? He thinks he can jump over every defender and he takes all these terrible sacks. Just throw the ball away. My biggest, my biggest de Shaun Watson gripe is when they're down in a game by like ten four teen boys, he gets a first down and he does it's all right, calm down the show. What were you saying? I was watching that game and I needed the Bolts in the money line parlay again.

I violated my Philip Rivers anonymous thing, but I needed the Colts to finish off of money line parlay. And I'm thinking, Mikey cannot possibly lose the over the exact same way twice in three weeks in the exact same game inside the five yard line with how is that even possible? That's not possible. Uh? The NFL, what are we doing betting this ship? Why are we doing? What are we doing? It's ridiculous, such a good product, though

it is so great product. It's my first love. Seriously, innately, Well, you grew up with his dad taking him to RFKAT the then Redskins. Yes, there was literally when you When I watched my first Skins game, I could think of nothing else. Lost my appetite. When they lose. My parents are like, who is this alien child? What do we do with him? All right? So then did we close it out with the final three things? One? I'm so sorry Todd is it doesn't I forgot the form. Wouldn't

wouldn't mind giving a last pick? You know it would be okay, I mean be hard to catch up against you guys if I only get two picks, okay. I am Also because you two have both done a minus three minus one, and since I have not done a minus three one minus, I would like to take a minus three minus one. Even though I wanted to take Miami, I'm backing off of that because of what we talked about before. I'm going to take the Green Bay Packers

minus three minus one. Just like you little cheaters get to do I get to do it too, green Bay minus three minus one. Here's the thing. I like Tennessee on offense. They don't have a defense. I mean, can we just be real if Tennessee doesn't score thirty five points, they can't win the game. Aaron Rodgers is going to go up there, look all cool, calm and collected, doing all state commercial and throw another first down and they're

just gonna keep moving down the field. It's like a joke. Okay, well, whoever he does those commercials for, he he looks so caught. He he looks bored. Really, he just comes to the line. He's like, look, I've done this a thousand times. Okay, we'll throw it to the tight end. First down, first down, touchdown. It's embarrassing. So I don't see how Tennessee is really

gonna stop the Packers. And the Packers defense it's not fantastic or anything, but Ryan Tannehill make one or two mistakes and you know the Packers will find a way to win the game, you know, thirty four or something like that. And anyways, if it's minus three minus, I can always get the push on minus three. So you know, give me Green Bay and a board Aaron Rodgers to take out Tennessee as my pick number three. He asked me this on text, and the only reason I knew

the answer because I was prepping for guessing lines. And he said, quick, who scored the most points. What teams scored the most point in the NFL this year? I would have said the Titans. Titans by a point over the Packer, over the Chiefs, two points over the Packers. Titans, just keep scoring. But you're right there. Defense is awful. All right, it's your it's your segment, Todd Teaser of the week, Derek Eddie to team your favorite two teams six point teaser of the week. There's a lot of

options here. I appreciate all the prep time you gave me on this. I didn't you a week ago when you agreed to do it what the format of the show was. This was including Derek, You're like, I know we're not a company that promotes reading, but still, wow, jeez, how about we lup unhappy to go. Todd's the leader, like in the golf, He's first. Okay, I will take as my teaser. I'm gonna do something a little crazy here. I am going to give myself maximum uh adjita this week.

My taking both Maddie boiling hot steam, Oh my god, plus sixteen and a half right against the Chiefs, because there's no better feeling than late in a game needing Maddie boy hot steam water to do something for you, and he'll probably screw me. But I think maybe for backdoor touchdowns he might be okay to do it. So give me Atlanta plus sixteen and a half. I just have a feeling that, you know, the Chiefs look like the kind of team they just toy with people. We

talked about it last week. They don't really care if they win by a zillion or not. And late in the game they could be down twenty three. I could see Maddie boiling hot steam water, you know, getting some touchdowns late. So give me Atlanta plus sixteen and a half, and I'm gonna put it with another guy who you really don't want to have late in a game, and that is Rams plus seven and a half, because, like you guys said before, even though I can't stand Jared Goff,

I think he can keep it close. The Rams in the first game against Seattle had some answers for for Russell Wilson, and by the way, quietly has the Seattle offense started to look a little more pedestrian. If you look at the last couple of games, something has maybe clicked where other teams are figured out maybe this is how we should figure out how to defend this team because they didn't do a whole hell of a lot. They had to hang on for dear life against Washington,

and there are a couple other games in there. They didn't look good against the Rams about three or four weeks ago. Except against the Jets, they really have not looked like themselves. So give me the Rams plus seven and a half, give me the Atlantis plus sixteen and a half so I can continue my lead in teaser. Oh my god, this guy. You're right though they don't have the explosive they don't have the chunk plays. They don't have these over the top passes that he thrived

on the first ten weeks of the year. Though, I will say this, when you play the NFC's leading Washington football defense, that's a tough game for anybody. I think that this the Redskins here is a huge game this way. I know Derek liked them. They went and they really win the Divisa. I think you see the Dwayne Haskins story this morning. I did not Dwayne Haskins after the loss, apparently went to a strip club maskless, and it's all over social media. Pil How does Clem Haskins need a

thing for the plays on his wrist. He's been there a couple of years already, he still needs like the whole thing. Last week, they're like, oh, we're gonna put the players on his risk because he doesn't know the place. You're not a rookie, bro, you should know the plays, Clem. What are you doing, Clem? Steve Zaban, who's the biggest sports talk radio guy in d C. He told me last year there was actually people who know Dwayne Haskins would approach the line of scrimmage not knowing at all

what the play was. Sometimes he didn't know where the center was. Yeah, he's lining up over the guard to get the snap. Uh. Not a good pick by Washington. They don't have the quarterback of the future on that roster they do. How do you feel about Alex Smith starting instead of Haskins? Has ruled out for terrified every time he steps on the field, but for him. But he's like Alex Smith. But they got a shot with him. You know, I think they have a better shot with

him for sure. He'll make just enough place. Yeah, like much better shot, much much better shot. Mikey Teaser. Well, I mentioned the Rams and I'm gonna have to have a common one with Todd even though I'm trying to catch up. Like my little Cowboys one last week, everybody was surprised by that Cowboys first nine and they went outright winner. Who was the guy and survivor who took the Niners? That was a bunt on one nervy saw it was eliminated Panthers two weeks ago in the Niners.

I mean, I get trying to knock out people game theory, but that's a bit of a stretch of both of those. By the way, Gil, he came up that whole thing about the extra point in the Niners Cowboys game. Now, it didn't affect the before the line, but it could have easily affected the minus seven and a half in

game that were available in that game. Late in the game, they scored a touchdown on they got the onsets kick and scored a touch and then they came back and threw a hail Mary and got the touchdown to to be down a right. I don't think they kicked the extra point. Did The official said the game is over as the point does not matter. That's the Minnesota, that's the Minnesota miracle. That did that right, and that's what we were talking about. Remember, I said, I think they

don't kick it anymore. They changed it. Remember a few years ago, on the last play of the game. What changed it? After the Patriots game, after like five straight pass interference calls, they scored on the last play of the game and the defensive team just walked out and they made it too and it affected the point spread. They just walked it in and you still had you still had to do the point then. Yeah, that was probably six seven years ago because there was the sham

of bringing the Saints back to the field. That was awful. I too have On my second second, I'm gonna take the Bills down to one against the Patriots on Monday, now the second leg. Those are two of my four favorite legs. Um, I am going to take the Rams as well. I think I'm the Bills were definitely the one of the other candidates. The other two candidates were the Saints and the Bears. So in the interest of not matching Mikey's Bears, I'm actually now I'm gonna go

Saints like the Bears. That would be my third choice. I'm gonna go Saints and Rams. Saints basically knocking it down to having to beat Minnesota on Christmas Night, Christmas Eve, well Christmas Day Eve, if you will, you don't worries me about the Bears, like Jacksonville could mess this up. I think the Bears defense is good enough that I don't know that Jacksonville is going to score that many points. And I like all four of those likes Buffalo as well,

Derek two team teaser. After I had a couple of minutes to take a look at it, I I I like what you just said. Um with the Saints at home National TV, I think this is gonna be a widely bat game just because you know the NFL is gonna own UH on the on the television. Then I know we got a lot of NBA, but I think the NFL game is gonna go. I love the Saints at home, so I would take the Saints and then I'll come back to UH. I'll come back to the

football team here. So if it was two and a half and then we get up what this is a six six point teaser type of type of but delso I'll get three in the hook, three in the hook right there with with the football team right Jerry doesn't care about going through the zero. Derek Stevens. I actually, I know, I know people are about going through the zero, how you're wasting a point, But it just really kind of depends upon I think a defensive team you can

make it. You can make a point about about going through the zero, particularly really if you're if you're going through a three or something like that. Now and now, if I was actually betting this, I would not bet a six point teaser through a zero on a two and a half. I would definitely I would definitely figure out a way to put this into a six and a half pointer, um, to make sure that you know you're you're getting you're getting that that extra half a

point of value. Okay, Final two questions, as always on the end of every show. UH. First of the final two, which of the big favorites is the most likely to lose? Outright? Here are your candidates. New Orleans seven point favorites at home against Minnesota Christmas Day, UH, Tampa Bay nine and a half point favorites on the road against at Detroit on Saturday Sunday. Kansas City tend at a half point favorites at home against Atlanta Chicago seven and a half

on the road against Jacksonville. God, there's a lot of these. Houston eight and a half at home against Cincinnata, Cleveland nine and a half on the road against the Jets, Baltimore Jesus ten hosting the Giants. Is that it? No? And then Buffalo Monday night seven point favorites on the

road against New England. Since Derek didn't get the email, Mikey you first, Yeah, I don't know here As it turned out last week the Rams in Pittsburgh where the answers, which is amazing, none of us, I said, dint we both say the buck? We did say yeah. I guess I'd go with the Bears, just because they're on the road and they're the shortest of the favorites. I don't

think Buffalo is losing to New England. I think if you've got Mitchell True Whisky playing quarterback, anything anything is possible. So you know, why can't why can't the mustache Minshew do it? To uh to Trubisky? I have a quick question for you, Derek. Um, So now we we You've opened a you know, a brilliant new resort. I haven't been there yet. I'm sure once I get back to Vegas. I'll be there all the time. But um, I hear it's absolutely amazing by everybody. All my friends there have gone.

It's unbelievable. Now, being that as it may, you've now opened this in the middle of a pandemic, which obviously is going to make all the numbers go different for you. But based on what you have seen, are you happy with how it's gone? Or are you upset with how it's gone? Or are you like being being that, Hey, we do have a pandemic, But how have you felt about it so far? This wasn't This wasn't on the email, Todd,

you should clarify a racial pandemic. That's what he said earlier, this which in the middle of a racial he had measured racial injustice with At the same time, to answer your question, uh, you know, we'd never we'd never we'd ever did a pro former to ask about what would what would it be like to open a casino and uh,

and a couple of other attractions without a hotel. So we've we've been able to do that for eight weeks and uh, you know when you walk through for the last eight weeks, you know, I look around them like isn't this amazing? Every single person made the decision to drive here or take an uber or something like that. Um no, one's staying here. So only next week do we opened the hotel. So in a pandemic without a hotel, Um no, I feel pretty good about how how things

are started off. And this is our biggest project. So we've had a lot of hiccups and we're gonna have a lot of hiccups with the hotel that we gotta fix. Oh no, I feel uh, I feel very good, um that that we're gonna hit the numbers we projected, or really that we're going to exceed the numbers we projected, because because the initial eight weeks has worked out very

very well there. It is basically the fact that you've you've been able to hang in here during a pandemic means that once the once the court comes out of the pandemic and everyone's vaccinated and they all go, let's go to Vegas, you have a feeling that circus is just gonna explode. Yeah, I think, I think, uh, I think, um, you know, we've had the opportunity to see what it's like being being the newest or the shiniest shiniest toy

and you know under the tree type of thing. But I think when people are willing to come back to Vegas, um, and that's over a longer period of time. It's gonna be over the next twelve months, next twenty four months. I think, Uh, my confidence level of of having people on their trips say hey, I want to make sure I stop in and see Circa. I feel I feel very good about that. I feel much better about that

today than I did at the beginning of October. So I feel I feel good about once once we get through all this, uh, that will be a decent shape. By the way I've mentioned it, I've mentioned to uh Bill A d to Brian Rodgers, imagine Vegas right now if you didn't do this project, like let's say Circa didn't exist, what a what a depressing place this would

be right now? About the Mirage only open on the weekend, Yeah, because see everything everything that Like there's strip hotels and beyond the Mirage, like the restaurants that haven't reopened obviously no shows. So honestly, I mean that you singularly have like given us something here that's exciting anyway, is it true? Gil? Gil Is it true that they closed the snack bar at the South Point that has the good pizza and the popcorn that Mikey always liked when I bought him upstairs.

I haven't been upstairs, you know. They shut the Oyster Bar, which I loved that oyster We would go there at least twice with my wife and child. We came in and then a week later than Chris Andrews told me, hey, I had bad news for you. I know you love the Oyster Bar, but we're your son doing a great looking kids. He'll be five on Sunday. Oh wow, what a great age. Five on Sunday. Good for you? Um so, yes, Derek, absolutely, you haven't made it worth living here. Your wife got

the vaccination last week. She got Thursday. She should three weeks from then she'll get the second dosage, so it comes in two apart. Which one did she get? Yeah, I assumed, do you get one? Then afterwards we're down the list of people the spouses of of the health kid. Marco Rubio, take your spot, you might have. She got she got a little sick. You know, you take it. It's like the flu shot, you know, she got a fever, she got sore, but it only lasted about seventy two hours.

She's fine. Now, active content managers should be um some of those essential workers because if you don't have the correct TV's going, you could have ruined your entire sports betting evening. And that's the only thing that's gonna take your mind off the pandemic. Well, and if you need a content management, anybody that's a singular person in an industry should be protected. That's right, you own that instc.

He should have trademarked. By the way, back to the point, it's bears for me as the team most likely lose that right, the big favorites, the big favorites, Yeah, I think uh, I think Cincinnati's a live dog again, so I would go against Houston. Alright, we're off the grid. And then the final question, final question. If we live in a bizarro world. We were forced to bet fifteen of the sixteen games on the side, but there was one game you wanted no part of, Mikey, what would

that game be? Forty Niners Cardinals, two home teams. That's one of my best bets. I know, I'm just saying that to say two home teams. I just wanted to get that line in there, DoD Um Eagles Cowboys. I mean, what we're gonna do hurt so good against the Cowboys against the beige water pistol. It's it's I don't know what's going on over there. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Carolina Washington just because we don't know the quarterback. And if it's Dwayne Haskins, that tips to Carolina for me,

and if it's Alex Smith, it tips to Washington. This is a really, really a game for Washington to win the division. Yeah, man, this is it. This is you know. Earlier in the year, I was like, oh, do you you really want to win this division? Because you, at the best, you'll have the nineteenth pick in the draft, and if you lose out, you're probably a top ten pick. And then in the end, like my fanhood got, I'm like, come on with this damn division? Why I have no

idea when I just got into it. Yeah, if you're pondering a thought, probably host two of the host the rams are Seattle or Tampa Bay. Who would be the probably Seattle Ish Oh yeah, they were talking about that on the broadcast. They don't want Seattle. Seattle always beat something in the pays. Oh, trust me. I went to Seattle for a playoff game with Mark Brunell. They beat him then uh, and then of course they've been him

a second time in Seattle. And then the Robert Griffin his knee game, which I was at two, which was a morgue when that happened. Did you guys weigh in on the Chiefs versus the field? I think that people have been talking about it on Twitter. I don't know if they offer that at sports books, but the Chiefs, you know, people are talking about would you rather bet the Chiefs or to have every other team to win the the the NFL? Right now? Um, I almost think

I would just rather have the Chiefs. But you know, Aaron Shotts, who from Football Outsiders, who was on this show last week, made the case about how, you know how I kind of lazily when I was like, yeah, the Chiefs are just toying with the Dolphins, and he was like, that's too subjective, like we just give the Chiefs of free pass At Drew Dinsic on the show this morning, he said kind of the same thing. He's like, there are too many alarms about the Chiefs. Here's the thing.

They lead in every game. What has been seven years since they didn't lead in the game. I mean, it's some ridiculous statistic since my home's so it's not like they get into like Baltimore where they get down two scores and there, you know what I mean. They always are in the game, or they're never not in control.

Although New Orleans I thought did a great job of harassing homes and that the defense played very well, they fall on that fumble in the end zone on that idiotic punt return for three seconds left and a half and it's a tie game. They only lost, They only lost by three and got murdered in the box score in New Orleans. I don't know if that makes me feel better about them or better about the Chiefs or I'm not sure, Derek, game you want no part of the close things out? If I could take the same,

I really like what Todd said. I would not know where to go with this Cowboy Philadelphia game. Um so I like what what Todd was saying. I jump on with that with him on that one, all right, Derek, I hope this wasn't too painful of an experience for you. It's great. I enjoyed it. Thanks. I appreciate you doing this and again where we started, Survivor, greatest thing going, so much fun. Wish I could have won, wasn't meant to be. I'll root for my friend Christie Andrews to

get to the Promised Land with his buddies. But it's spectacular. We look forward to whatever you have up your sleep next year. Man Um, whatever the rules are, may you get five thousand entries? Appreciate that. Thanks a lot. No, we all well really do. And I think I speak on behalf of everybody who played. It is real, real shot in the arm for all the contests and for

Vegas sports betting in general. Todd. As we speak right now, the people from New Orleans are filing into Stadium Swim for the Great Idaho Potatable to watch their beloved to Lane take on you and are I'm I was just about to ask you guys if you had any thoughts on too Lane Nevater Central Florida by I have some thoughts you things. I'm on the under pre flap twenty eight and a half and fifty seven in that game,

there's high winds, Todd. It rained this morning. The rain has stopped but it's high winds, which one in the Potato bo Idaho brazy, So you you and are in too lane, Derek, Is there any thoughts to expand the end game offerings at Circle? Because while everyone says Circle is the best as far as you know customer service and getting the lines out and letting people have limits and amazing, the end game is not as vast. Is

that going to be expanded? Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, But I mean that that's something that that you know, we've been in business here for a year and a half and we're still trying to grow the team and uh, and I think your assessment is right on, Tod, And we certainly would like to grow our in game uh, in game opportunities here as as h as time goes by awesome because I've obviously everyone loves Circle, so I can imagine, you know, if you guys get the in

game going, Wow, Todd, and I dream of the day that the Wednesday in the middle of June or July when the Mariners are playing the Blue Jays and it's just me and you out there, Dodd Baseball, Diehard Stadium, Swim it's a big ball game. When we got the Tigers going with you know whoever I can't even name, or Boyd, Matthew Boyd. Is he still on the team,

the left hander? I believe so, Yes, But you're right, I mean and major League Baseball and with the investment we made with Stadium Swim, Yeah, we want to make sure that we're we have in game available on Major League Baseball because that's a that's a key element of kind of what we're doing. So we gotta we gotta

grow the end game town. My secret thing that I said to Mike Ago, no one has bet baseball more at Las Vegas Pools in life than I have all those years that the hard Rock having baseball action, no one else out there did. So Stadium Swim Baseball season is like perfect dream come true. Damn it. They're consulted and build a television screen that can handle a hundred and twenty five degrees in the summer. It's amazing. There's

no glare, there's no glare whatsoever, which is incredible. Yeah, we spent a little we spent a little bit of time going up to Dackdrodics and uh yeah, they built built a new product for us. So there there's there's some cooling systems behind the screen. So all hundred and forty three ft we we expect to uh, we expect to to to have a run just just perfectly fine. We get to July and August this year, so can it withstand what degrees? Can it withstand? Well? What it

was stand? Is it? It has to do without much cooling goes in behind behind the screen. So we got a lot of cooling that goes behind the screen, so we should be good, alright. Or Todd Wishnev and his mom's cork Attic in Pittsburgh, p A with the Circus Sports backdrop. Thank you, Todd, appreciate it. Mikey as always, Mike Palm. I don't think I received your last name on this show, did the great Mike Palm? Everybody, thank you kind enough to join us Merry Christmas to all

happy holidays. And Derrick Stevens, who runs the roost here or rules the roost at all of Circuits Sports Circa and of course Golden gave the d thank you. Thank you for letting us have this to do our podcast and every weekend