Beating The Book: 2019 Week 10 NFL Guessing Lines Show with Chris Andrews

which just passes by this past weekend. A story time classic included today on the Beating the Book podcast Enjoying It's a Numbers Game with your host Gil Alexander. Do you want those beauty as to believe? In Adams? It is a numbers game Monday morning right here at the Visa the bagas as the Information Network series Sex of Channel two O four, Visa dot Com, the Visa App. It's all about guessing lines today for week ten in the National Football League, the weekly exercise that has served

us well this year. Uh. And as always we bring in the gentleman who I believe has a story time in store today. Uh. He is in town. He is uh somewhere here close by, not in studio with us today, but he's the star of the show. He has the South Point Hotel Casino sports book director. He is my mesh book of chrisy Andrews. Good morning, Chris. What's going on, pal? Yeah, we've got a little story time in honor of the Breeders Cup, but that was over the weekend, a little

horse racing story. All right, you know what that means, Chris. Then we got to get through everything real real quick. Look at split. We got a bunch of teams that are off this week. I think it'll be a little tighter schedule. Okay, all right, well how did you do this weekend? Let's start there. Saturday, Well, let's go back to Thursday. Thursday rugal was very good for US. Uh niners one but not covered on a I was on teasers. Probably didn't cover their teasers either. Uh. Saturday not so good.

We got beat up a little bit, mostly by the public. You know, the wise guys. We did pretty good against but the public kind of got to us on Saturday. But yesterday we made up for it. You know, bookmakers love to cry, and there's no crying yesterday. We we did pretty good. You did pretty good. Um, I had no one's crying for you. We we We've established that many times. So storytime coming up. Tribute to the Breeders Cup this past weekend. By the way, how did you

do with the Breeders Cup? Did you win anything? Uh? You know, I had a couple winners and a couple of small exactas, but overall lots of money, not nothing major, you know. But I did not finish on the plus side, Yeah, I was. I played some of the horses that were on the show on Friday, didn't it didn't go particularly well? Yeah, not really. Yeah, but I had dinner with Manny last night. He had Dino rosso in the classic you know, So

that's what you bet those Italian horses. If one all right, Well, the NFL yesterday, and we will review everything from yesterday if you're just landing on the show right now at tribute to the old Stardust radio show of Guessing lines, and uh, this is really it's sort of a review of what everything that happened in the NFL yesterday while we try to find value in next week's upcoming line. So let us begin there for with Thursday night, we

have the Chargers at the Raiders. And let me just say this was this We were just talking with mentioned Paul about this. This was such a strange day in the National Football League. And since you bring up the Chargers first, let's just start there, because that might have been the most most unpredictable of all the outcomes, not not that the Chargers beat the Packers, but that they

beat them so soundly twenty six to eleven. Uh. They not only cover as four point or four and app point dogs, but they win out right in that game, do the Chargers? So the charges are four and five. They fired your boy, Ken Wizzon Hunt last week, Chris. When I say you boy, I've been beating him up for like the whole how long have we been doing this show? However long has been I've been beating up Ken Wizzen Hunt. So what was what was his first

crime against you as a Steeler? Uh coordinator? What was the first time that you uh you were not saying, I don't know, you know, even when he got to the Super Bowl as the coach of the of the of the Cardinals, you know, I thought like the team carried him earlier wasn't him so much as the team that carried him. And you know, and all honestly, they probably should have beat the Steelers in that Super Bowl.

And but you know, if you remember back they when they got to the playoffs, people said it was the worst playoff team in history. Now, all of a sudden, you've got Kurt Warner quarterback, and Larry Fitzgerald a wide receiver, and a couple other guys who really like just excelled for a couple of weeks, got into the Super Bowl, should have won that game probably against the Steeler, but didn't. But I mean, I think this he's been one of those guys that just does not utilize his talent properly.

And I think he's been given talent over the years but just has has never really uh you know, build it the way he should, you know. So anyway, it's just I don't want to pretend like I'm any kind of expert in football. I'm not. But I just I know what I see, and I see a guy that just has not done what he should have been with a talent around it. Well, if one game by the Chargers yesterday's any indication they didn't miss him, Uh, Shane Stuken.

I hope I'm staking him. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. Jacob who's in for Jeff Parlay this morning, and let me know how that's pronounced. But he's the new o C after wizzen Hunt was fired on Monday, and uh listen. The Chargers held the ball against the Packers for thirty six minutes, nearly thirty six minutes. They averaged six point five yards per play. They didn't have a three and ount on any of their nine possessions. Actually eight nine was the end of the game run out. The clock

only had to punt punt once. The running game for Charges, which had been held under forty yards in four straight games at a season I A hundred fifty nine yards. Melvin Gordon eighty two touchdowns, Austin Ekeler twelve for seventy. Michael Badgeley kicked four field goals his first game back from injury. Philip Rivers two ninety four. Mike Williams with the first one hundred yard receiving day in his three year career three catches for one eleven. That's kind of surprising.

That was the first one hundred yard day for Mike Williams and then okay, even if you anticipated, well, maybe they'll get a bump offensively, maybe you know this team is always capable of doing well offensively. It was the defense that was the real shocker. Chargers pressured Aaron Rodgers all day, minimal blitzing. They sacked him three times. Joey Bosa had one and a half. Melvit Ingram one and a half. Bosa, by the way, five and a half

sacks of his past three games. Yes again. On offense, Chargers gained two hundred fifty yards in the first half and a pair of scoring drives that started inside their ten. Meanwhile, the defense gave up only fifty yards UM in the half, the first time since twenty eleven they had allowed that few in the first half of any game. It was only the third time under Rodgers first since that the Packers have had fifty yards are fewer in the first half.

Matt Lafleur quote, Really, when you look at it at the half, we were pretty fortunate to only be down nine and nothing. We'll get into more of the Packers woes when we get to them, but that's essentially the Chargers just utter domination Yesterday uh, they're at Oakland here. This is a sneaky good Thursday night game. Now Oakland is four and four. Chris, let me just raise my hand.

I thought they'd be terrible with this schedule, and their defense isn't very good, but offensively they get it done so so tip of the Captain John Gruden. Derek Carr nine yard touchdown past the Hunter Renfro with two or four left. Then Karl Joseph breaks up a fourth down pass in the end zone with three seconds left to preserve a Raiders thirty one to twenty four win over the Lions yesterday, their first game back in Oakland since Week two. They had traveled over twenty thousand miles four

road games, neutral site since then. Car two touchdowns, no picks in a sac Jacob's on the ground twenty eight of one to only two touchdowns. They were seven or thirteen on third downs again with a lot of penalties though te six. We'll have to clean that up. But first time since the merger of the Raiders got four touchdowns from rookies in a single game. Renfro, Jacobs twice, Foster Brow. All of that said a game dare I say with mid season playoff implications, I'll say Oakland minus

one and a half. Uh, you know, I see it anywhere from pick them. Actually I see one spot even has the Chargers one, but mostly pick them to the Raiders one and a half. I'll tell you what, I think this is a really good game. And as I was looking at my numbers, I wasn't sure what to make this. I think the Raiders should be a very, very slight favorite. I'm gonna open the game one myself. Uh, but you know, listen to some of the pundits this morning.

The Chargers have two safeties coming off the injured list that should be able to play this weekend, this Thursday. And I think that's, uh, that's a team that suddenly getting healthier. And I would be very careful betting against the charges. That. That being said, it's very impressed with Oakland yesterday. And you know, I've knocked the hell out of Derrick car you know, since he's been a rookie,

and uh, you know, he was very impressive yesterday. I'm looking at qbrs, he might have had the highest QBR of anybody, uh yesterday, I think Jimmy, and where's my notes here? Jimmy Garoppolo might have had a better one, of course that was being played on Thursday. But Derek Car I thought really was actually Car actually had a little bit better QBR than than Garoppolo. But he was very,

very good. I thought the team looked good. Defense probably needs a little help, but you know what, Stafford is just a very good quarterback and the game four hundred yards staffed the Lions that but you know, Oakland kept him out of the end zone and they needed to. And I think there's a really really good game. But I'm gonna open the Raiders one. I think they deserved

to be a very slight favorite in this game. Okay, the way we don't want to tell people, don't want to give the impression that Derwin James will be back Thursday. He will not. He underwent successful surgery to repair a stress fracture in his foot. If you were called back on August twenty two, his that the typical time frame for that is three to four months, So end of November is when they're scheduled to get him back. But you're right there getting a whole bunch of guys back,

and he's probably the headliner of all that. Though not this Thursday for Derwin James. At least that's the word. Right now, Let's do a Sunday game, Chris, Sunday. We have the Chiefs and the Titans. Chiefs and Titans. Uh So, I guess this comes down to is Patrick Mahomes playing or not? Right, that's the first thing here. But the Chiefs, Yeah, go ahead, excuse me. I get seen by the numbers that are out there. And not everybody has numbers on this game, but I get the numbers that are out there.

The assumption is right now that he will be playing, that he will be playing. Okay, Chiefs beat the Vikings yesterday twenty six to twenty three. I just keep let me. Can I just say this? The Vikings should be so much better than they are. Like you know how people say the some of the parts or what is it? The the whole is greater than the some of the part some of its parts. This is the opposite to me with the Vikings, the some of its parts are

greater than the whole. Uh. Chiefs win it yesterday again, twenty three. They do so as five and a half point home dogs. Good for them, Matt More thirty five for two seventy five touchdown. Note picks. He was sacked five times, but Damian Williams twelve for huge touchdown running that game, Tyreek six for one forty through the air,

six catches one forty yards and a touchdown. Patrick Mahomes they did again without him, the reigning league m VP, who missed the second straight game while recovering from a dislocated kneecap. But if you are to believe what Chrissy just said, he will be back for this one at Tennessee. By the way, Harrison Butker career best, tying fifty four yard field goal to tie the game than a forty four yard or to win it yesterday snapping the Chiefs

three game losing streak at Arrowhead. Don't hear that very often, so um, and it should be noted also with the Chiefs yesterday, because I think this this gets lost. In addition to not having Mahomes, who who justifiably gets the headlines, they didn't have their left tackle Eric Fisher growing injury. They didn't have their right guard Laurent DuVernay tardif ankle. They didn't have Kendall Fuller in the secondary. They didn't have defensive ends Frank Clark or alex Oka four, so

they were playing really shorthanded. The Chiefs yesterday still got it done. And then there's Tennessee. Uh this is probably this is one of the few things I ended up getting right yesterday, Carolina beating Tennessee and covering in the process. Tennessee lost to Carolina thirty to twenty has three and a half point dogs. Ryan Tannehill teven thirty nine one, one touchdown, two picks, sacked four times, four carries for

thirty eight yards. That a touchdown from him, but they had eleven penalties did the Titans for ninety nine yards and they just can't get the field goal kicker thing right. You remember that game where Cairo Santos missed four. Yesterday, Ryan suck up. He was added the roster. He missed three from forty three, fifty six and forty four. Uh so that's not good. So Kansas City had to see assuming Mahomes all say, Kansas City minus ten, whoa, oh,

Kansas City at Tennessee. Uh, you're way high three and a half. So with Mahomes just three and a half, Well that's you know, like I said, I'm looking at this and uh yeah, I mean, they haven't listed as questionable, but you know, everything I've seen and heard indicates that they expect him to play. Now, you know, um, you know, I think you're way higher. You know, I gotta tell you if that's, if that's and that's three and a half, I'll take that every day, Well don't you You might

be right? But you know, yeah, I'm not sure we're going to go as far as you with that. Maybe not, but you know, yeah, this is I think Kansas City is shown to be a very good team. But let me say this about Andy Reid and the guy as a head coach makes a million strategic errors, but as a quarterback coach, he can get a lot out of a quarterback. Now, like I said, we talked about more came in from my homes. You know, this is not just some rookie that all of a sudden is way

better than we ever thought. But Andy Reid coached him up pretty good. You know, he's really gotten good in production at it more in a couple of weeks. And he's played you know, he had a very good game against the Vikings and we win or lose. He played well. Uh, I think you're you're you're way high. But I think that right now, I'm going to be very careful with this game, probably open for because I think if my Homes comes back, you know, they are going to pound

this team pretty good. But you know, I'm just be careful with these favorites, you know, is what I would say. You know, So I'm gonna open for, but I think they're way high on this one. I'm way high. But I'll tell you what. So even if I did the thing where okay, let's say it was Matt Moore, all right, So it was Matt Moore at Tennessee, um, is Tennessee favored by a field goal in that game? I don't

think they should be. So even if that's a pick that, I'm still high, right, but it should be like six or seven, Like I'm surprised that's only three with my Homes. Yeah. So you're saying if this game was at Kansas City, it's then it would be like, you know, so my tennant or something like that. Yeah. No, no, so let's

establish it by tennis too high. But let's say if it's if it's Matt Moore in Kansas City at Tennessee, is Tennessee favored by like what would you think that would be like, So I would say it would be around to pick them, and so then it should probably be like Kansas City minus six or Kansas City, you know, MIGHTUS six and a half whatever it is. So I'm high, but three is way low to me. Three and a half. Yeah, yeah, it's wad Yeah. You know, listen, I see your point.

You're making some very valid points on this, but uh, you know again, i'd be very careful with you know, land points on the road. And I'm not a big systems guy, you know, a matter of fact, scoff at most of them. But one I've watched over the years comes to a fruition at a pretty alarming rate, probably like about sixty eight percent something like that. And that's just off the top of my head. When you go from a home dog to a road favorite, you usually

want to play that that play against that team. And listen, I fell into the trap yesterday. I had Minnesota in all my contests. I just yeah, I mean, I fell into that trap. Man. I could see early on if I could have won, god knows I could have won that, it would have been a miracle. I didn't have the right side, but I would just be very careful here. I think that, like I said, you go from a home dog to a road favorite. I would tread very likely.

All right, I want to I want to mulligan all that, but I'll still say Kansas City by the seven and a half. The point still remains. I'm way higher on that, uh than than what is being post it out there. All right, we'll do more of these. Hang on. We always say one thing, you don't want to think parallel to the bookmakers. Lord knows, Chris, I've been doing that all year. It is service pretty well though. We'll come back. We'll do more guesting lines week nine. There is a

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What's next? Chris Buffalo at Cleveland, Buffalo at Cleveland. It's funny you mentioned the Cleveland Browns because I'm singing right here. Jermaine Whitehead waved waved this morning by the Cleveland Browns. UH safety Jermaine Whitehead waved just hours after he boasted profanity, lace and threatening comments on social media media following Sunday's loss at Denver. So that's the end of that UM as far as this game is concerned. So, um, what is it again? Cleveland? Where is the where's the game

in Buffalo? At Buffalo at Cleveland? So six and to Buffalo two in six Cleveland? Jeez? Yesterday and the Redskins law the Bills win over the Redskins. Josh Allen fourteen sixty one touchdown, no picks, was sacked two times, Devin's single. Tarry was the real offensive star for the Bills yesterday, twenty carries for ninety five yards, touchdown, three catches for forty five yards. The Bills held the Skins to two of eleven on third down. No real surprise there. Dwayne

Haskins not doing much. Buffalo off to its best start since going seven and one in three UM, although there's six wins have come against teams that entered yesterday with combined seven and thirty one record, so let's not go crazy. Second half though, they got things together yesterday after Washington played with him for a half a p was doing big things. They limited the Skins to seventy eight yards of offense and a field goal. And then, Chris, there

are the Cleveland Browns. Um. They lose to Denver yesterday by the score of twenty four to nineteen. Cleveland, who had all that hype before the season betting markets, No betters loved no team more than they did the Cleveland Browns Baker Mayfield yesterday twenty seven forty two and defeat two seventy three, one touchdown note picks, two sacks. They allowed Brandon Allen. What's your favorite moment of the Brandon Allen Arkansas years? Chris, Oh my god. I had to

look up to see who he played. I think most people did. Brandon Allen was twelve of twenty one two touchdowns note picks. He was sacked three times. It was his first start since the twenty sixteen Liberty boll How about that, um, Listen. The Browns ran thirty more plays

in the Broncos seventy three to forty three. They couldn't make stops on defense when they needed to, uh, they lit a couple of big drives first of all Philip Lindsay nine for ninety two and a touchdown on the ground no offense, three catches for one fifty yards, including a big seventy five yard touchdown pass from Allen where he broke tackles and really put the Ronicles ahead and put Cleveland in they come from behind situation. The whole time.

They could never sort of overcome that early big play. Denver took a seventeen to twelve halftime lead by holding Cleveland to four field goals after the brown stalled at the Denver twelve, nine and thirteen all in the second quarter, and twice the Bronco was denied the Browns on fourth down in the second half, one of which, let me just say this was a fourth and inches at Denver's five yard line with five twenty three left in the

third quarter. The score is still seventeen to twelve, and Baker Mayfield appeared to have clearly, and I mean clearly made the first down. A no horrific spot, absolutely horrific spot. Challenge from Freddie Kitchens fails, and Denver proceeds to go on a ninety five yard touchdown drive right after that. So I don't I don't know what your excuses on defense, but Cleveland, Chris just appears to be a bunch of

really really amazing athletes, right. Odell Beckham Jr. Made a couple of great plays, but they can't get it together the two in six, I I guess I have to kind of favor the two and six team over the over the six and two team, though based on perception, I'm going to guess here what I think the line will be, not what I think it should be. Uh as as as is the case with this show. So I'm gonna say Cleveland minus three. Tell me how far off I am? Yeah, you're off by about half a point.

It's two and a half. Um, I'm gonna open the game too, though I do see one two out there, and I'm gonna open a game too. It is the NFL, so I know, you know, just look at yesterday. I know crazy things can happen. But I did have Buffalo, and when I say had'm I'm just in a couple of contests. I'm not out there betting you know, my money on a you know, eleven and ten basis. But I did add Buffalo and a couple of contests, and

we mentioned them last week. I'm guessing the lines. And you know, I hate to do this to you, Agal, but we said the Redskins are just a terrible team, and Buffalo beats up on terrible teams in their m O so far this year. Yeah, where do you put Cleveland? I think they're one of those terrible teams. To tell you the truth, now, like I said, it is the NFL. When I was making my numbers, I thought this should be picked myself because, like I said, it is the NFL.

But I also a very interesting conversation I had over the weekend. I know a guy that knows a guy, and I think this is a pretty good source that the Giants. Uh, maybe on the lockery, but from coaching on up through ownership. We're very glad to get rid of Odell Beckham and they saw him as a great, great talent that could really be a cancer in the locker room. And I know he stood up for Baker Mayfield last week. Uh, you know, which I think was

at I really do. But there we had some issues yesterday with Odell Beckham and this team is a team that's in turmoil. Kitchens, I think it's not up to the job, you know, Mayfield. I think it's one of those guys that could be a good quarterback if he gets the right kind of coaching, and he's not had that yet, but I do think he's a very uh He's got a strong talent behind them. I'm like, you know, I hate to be like one of these squares, but

I like Buffalo in this game. But you know, one of the things I've noticed over the years and again somebody I think our friend from Australia down is the new Up did the thing on it. You know, you're when you see a number that's two and a half, you're better off taking it. Of course, you want to take the three just in case, but when you see a two and a half, you want to take it. When you see a three and a half, you probably

better off laying it. Tell that to the Packers yesterday, but you know that they're not either not a d percent. But I kind of like Buffalo in this game. I'm gonna open to They'll probably beat me, but that's okay. I have a feeling the public will be on Buffalo. I think the public might be right on this one. I'm gonna I'm gonna open to listen, listen to the Browns remaining schedule. Okay, so that they've played the first half there, two and six, this is the this is

the final eight games Buffalo this weekend. That much, okay, So one more besides that, it's Buffalo this weekend. Then it's home Pittsburgh home Miami, so there's a three game homestand then at Pittsburgh home Cincinnati at Arizona home Baltimore at Cincinnati. That schedule is really favorable. So there's still time for them to get this going, but they gotta

start this weekend. Well, I can tell you this. I had one of my sharpest players, one of my absolute sharpest guys, came in and that Cleveland to win the Super Bowl last week. Again, I'm sure he saw that they were three and a half on the road, another three and a half point favorite. That didn't Megan, and I guess that we went to forward dead game. But you know that he bet him, and I'm sure he was looking at that very same schedule you just mentioned

and that that's a very valid point. But but they better get together pretty quick for sure. By the way, Jacob booz In for produce number five, Jeff Parlay, this has nothing to do with this game between the Bills and the Browns. But since Bills beat the Redskins and Chris he mentioned the Redskins, you throw up that tweet. Uh, this is for Washington Redskins fans, the Redskins who are

one in eight um setting their own history here. The Redskins have now gone three straight games without a touchdown for the first time in their eighty eight year history. Thank you Andrew Siciliana for that tweet right there. All right, let's do one more. Chris Arizona at Tampa Bay, Arizona at Tampa Bay, Arizona with the extra rest here they lost to the Niners, gave it a go. They covered on Thursday night. You remember that game where Kenyan Drake

just showed up in his trade from the Dolphins. Fifteen carries, a hundred ten yards, a touched down, four catches for fifty two Arizona three d fifty seven total yards against the Niners and feet on Thursday. And then there's Tampa Bay. Chrissie, I had Tampa Bay yesterday, as so many of us did. And this is just this is by the way, in circle was plus five and a half. So this this

ended up being a loser for all bucketeers betters. Uh. There, but look, the Seahawks miss a field goal at the end of regulation, it would have been a cover for the Bucks. Instead, it goes to overtime and you either push or you'll lose. In contests with five and a half Jamis Winston four three thirty five, two touchdowns, no picks, sacked twice, but one extremely costly turnover as he has want to do in the fourth quarter, a fumble that was not even jarred from his hand, I don't believe,

just kind of left his hand. I was recovered by Rashie Green led to a key field goal for Seattle. Uh. Even with Mike Evans, who I say each and every week on this show, show me a better wide receiver than Mike Evans. There isn't one twelve catches, one eighty a touchdown, but eleven penalties for the Bucks eighty two yards. They lose to the Seahawks. Uh in overtime after being up twenty one to seven. They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Seahawks beat him forty to thirty four.

They give up five touchdown passes UH to Russell Wilson We'll get to Seattle later. But um, the Bucks just do Bucks things. But their home here against Arizona, they're a better football team than the Cardinals are. I'll say the Bucks minus four and a half. Yeah, act you anywhere from four to five. Actually, i've seen one five and a half. Also, I'm gonna open at five. I like sort of towards the higher end. Like I said, it's one five and a half, but I don't want

to quite go there yet. Uh. You know, listen, Tampa did a lot of things right. That's did a few key things wrong. But you know, Russell Wilson has a way of winning those games. And I had Tampa and all my contests, you know, I hate to tell you there's been one contest. I had them plus six and a half. Okay on that way, Yeah, I know, so I get the count that as a winner and then one contest, and I mean and Arizona. Listen, I'll be the first thing that Kyler Murray's better than I thought.

But here's an interesting thing that looking at murray stats, I think that's that three times for thirty seven yards. That just shows you take these really deep dropbacks. That's a good point and you know, I guess Russell Wilson has to do this, saying the boy Russell Wilson, I think, you know he and I don't know if he's the m v P or not. He's right there though. This kid has had just an unbelievable career. UM and I don't think Murray's is there and might maybe never going

to get there. But he's better than I thought, I admit. But anyway, I'm gonna go with five. I want to stay a little bit towards the higher side of this, and uh, you know, we'll see what happens. But how about Tampa really looked pretty good and probably should have won that game or at least covered it. I have Russell Wilson to win the m v P at five to one. I said this on the show a couple of weeks ago. UM got him right before he dropped down from five to one. I love having that ticket.

He's got to be the front runner down. Very curious when they repost this week what he'll be if you think whose second place? Uh, we already talked about. We'll talk about more about Aaron Rodgers coming up. Terrible game for him yesterday. Deshaun Watson's got to be in the mix. Lamar Jackson, I guess is in the mix. McCaffrey's got you know, that's exactly right, Chris Christian McCaffrey should be in the mix. He just his box scores week after week are ridiculous. But I think, but I think Russell

Wilson's the favorite. For sure. We'll come back. Yeah, we'll do some more guessing lines for week ten. Can you believe it? Week ten in the National Football League? My goodness, we'll do that. And of course story Time on the Way, special story Time Classic right here on the Numbers game at Feasting. Welcome back to a Numbers game with Jill Alexander guessing lines Week ten in the National Football League.

You know Chris Andrews who's alongside here? Uh it's not only the director of the South Point Hotel because you know sports book, but he's an author in case you missed it, the name of the book. Then one day, Chrissie Howard, how the sales going? How happy are you with everything that's transpired with this book? Well, I gotta tell you the results seemed to be extremely favorable, So yeah, very happy. I got a brilliant forward written in that

book to by one girl Alexander. So that's certainly didn't hurt. And I do appreciate that. I really beautiful forward and uh, you know, without you, that book wouldn't be possible. So let's also give credit words do well. It's very kind of you, but it's an honor to be part of it, and it's all you. And there might there be a sequel one day, a follow up to that. Uh you know, yes,

maybe because I've been talking to him. I don't want to say yet, you know, but there's somebody who's been in the business, probably a little longer than me, and says that he really liked my writing and my storytelling, and perhaps he and I will collaborate auto book of you know, very similar stuff. I'll tell you off there.

I'm not sure he's ready to say this yet, you know, but and I don't want to jump the gun on him, so, you know, but you maybe me because you know, I just want to say this because you you honestly, and this doesn't get stated enough when we have these reason. By the way, for those who are just landing here again, story time was always the portion of guessing lines and podcast form that when it was told in its original form, when you went through them the first time, Uh, just

no one cared about anything else but the stories. They were so great. You are a great storyteller, both in print but particularly in audio form. And I don't think that gets stressed enough. And that's on me because others have really good stories too, It's just that they don't tell them as well either, right, So like it's part of that as well, Like you have that talent should be noted, thank you, and that you know. I don't want to have any false modesty, but I think you're right.

I think I I, you know, or whatever I think I do tell a pretty good story. So you know, this book I think would be if we actually do it, I think would be very good. And I think probably it might even sell better than the first one, you know, So I kind of hope we do it. There's a shot of the first one then one day forty Years of Book Making in Nevada by Chris Andrews available and so, by the way, it's something Visa dot Com, the Visa

app right now available where all books are sold, including Amazon. Alright, I look forward to that stuff off fair Chrissy and we'll by the way, we'll get a story time from Chris later on the show, So no pressure after what I just said. All right, what's next on Sunday? Okay, we've got the Giants after Jets. Oh geez, did these two teams? Did these guys play already? And no, no, no, that was Buffalo that went to play both the Giants and the Jets and consecutive weeks in the same stadium.

So of course these guys are meeting for the first time interconference game Giants and Jets. Giants are two and six. Now we haven't seen the Giants play yet. They played a night against the Cowboys where they are seven point dogs. Still, yes, seven point dollars. You might see some six and a half and a half word six and a half, six and a half here at the South Point Hotel Casino.

And then the Jets yesterday, who lose to the Dolphins. Yes, indeed, Uh, the Jets lose twenty six to eighteen to the Dolphins. Where do we begin. Sam Donald seven thirty nine for two sixty one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked three times. Jets committed ten penalties for a hundred five yards. Uh. The Jets win eleven plays on the first drive of the game for a touchdown in the seven and nothing lead, and then after that they were crapola. How's that for

a technical term? Uh, they actually fell below. They're actually behind Miami now technically in the standings because of the head to head tiebreaker on this Uh, it's the second ward start. They matched their second ward start in franchise history at one and seven. Uh, they were oh and

eight back in. I will say this. I don't mean to get into superlatives on people, but have you ever seen like if you take Sam Donald's performance two weeks ago against the Patriots, I don't know if you can recall this, but he had three picks in that game, and one was more horrific than the previous, Like this was Jamis Winston on steroids, panicky, and then his one pick yesterday, Like the one sequence of this game that that symbolized everything was the end of the first half

where the Jets appeared to have scored a touchdown, it was reversed, and then Donald goes ahead and throws this just absolutely horrific pick where it's just like what are you doing? Uh? And it's picked off by the Dolphins. Of the one yard line. The Dolphins subsequently get a safety that by the way, it wasn't ruled a safety on the field, but the people in the booth had to come down and say, hey, by the way, that's a safety. And then after they punt after a safety,

the Jets end up with the field goal. So they end up with five points at the end of that sequence anyway, But it was just absolute bad news bears of football stuff. But Donald, have you do you ever remember a guy that just panics in the way he does on the field and throws just the worst picks you'll ever see, sort of the Jamis Winston Modern day Award. Well, all these quarterbacks coming out of college, I really didn't

like any one of them. And the knock that I had against Donald is he does not protect the ball. I mean that interception. That interception was ridiculous, ridiculous, one of the worst plays I've seen all year. But you know, he did that in college, he's doing that in the pros. And there's a kid that really needs some coaching and right now he is not getting and I can tell you that. And Adam Gates has to be one and done with this team. They've and you know Gil, but

one play too. I kind of watched again this morning, the bad snap from center. H Yeah's that a safety or was that a touch? It was a safe because the Dolphins couldn't recover. Yeah yeah. But I mean the team was totally lethargic. I mean you could see like they just kind of stood around and saying, I hope that other guy picked it up, you know, I mean, where's the passion? Yeah, where's the passion? I mean football is a passionate game, man, And uh well, I think this,

you know, this is just a totally lost team right now. Listen. I don't want to be lazy here, but Giants had jets. I mean it's a it's a pick um to me. I mean, what do you to make this line? Well, I see anywhere from a pick all the way up to two and a half. I even see two and a half with some juice on the favorite. I think that's a little too high. And once again you're you know, Giants are a home dog and you go to a road favorite. You know, that's like the one system that

really kind of looked at. By the way, it was Johnny Detroit who ran that for me A couple of years ago. Lasting you take a look at and I think it's like about sixty eight percent. I'm like, so I'm gonna give credit where that's as well. I think I opened the two right now. And of course, the Giants play tonight, we'll see where that goes. But like I said, I'd be very careful betting on the Giants.

But who the hell wants to be Jett? I mean, the Giants could change our opinion tonight, Absolutely they could. But right now, as we sit here right now, how is this not a coin flip in anybody's minds? Right? It's like the same that they play in the same stadium. Um, what are you getting from either team? Babe? Sickly? Yeah, yeah, boy, you know. I mean we have to go to the schedule.

Which game we just stay away from right now? This one might be that would be the one that would be the Yeah so far, alright, let's squeeze in one more here, Atlanta at New Orleans. Alright, Well, nothing much to say here because they're both off buys, right, So Atlanta's won and seven. New Orleans is seven and one. I guess do we know if it's Matt Ryan or not let's let's make a line with Matt Ryan versus

Matt Shaw. Although Matt Shaw had this great game last week, we almost put up, we put up north of four hundred yards. But also Ryan is probable is probable right now, all right, And we know that Drew Brees is back because he was already before the bye. So I'll say New Orleans minus ten and a half. Just cut right to the chase. You're a little light. I see anywhere from eleven and a half to twelve and a half. Um, okay, boy, I think I kind of like the higher number here,

the twelve and a half. Um. You know again it is Vienna. Hell, so be careful with all these chalks, you know. But uh, you know, Atlanta, this is I think a lot of us, me included, surprised that Atlanta did not make a coaching move during the bye. I think a lot of us kind of saw it coming. Uh, there's problems with Atlanta. Quarterback is really not one of them. They have a million other problems here in New Orleans. Uh. You know, if they're the best team in the NFC,

they certainly might be. You know, they're they're they're right there. And I think there's a team that's really gonna be tough to beat down the stretch. But that being said, it's that, you know, it's kind of a rivalry, and a lot of people outside of the South don't realize that that is a pretty big rivalry game. I'm gonna go with the twelve and a half. I think the public will be on the Saints, but I'd be careful here. I think, you know, Atlanta is a pretty good live

dog to cover this number. Do you think any of these guys will be fine? But obviously Jake Gruden has already gone in Washington, But if you take Dan Quinn, you mentioned Adam Gaze, uh, Freddy Kitchens, who we've already touched on. UM. I don't know. Does it benefit these teams to make moves mid season that has waited out now till the end. I very rarely see these mid season moves make a lot of sense unless you just, you know, want to clear out the locker room in

the bad karma or anything else that's going on. But I wouldn't expect that a whole ton of improvement after doing that, So I think most of those guys will last the season. But Kitchens and Gage they gotta be wanted done, both of them and Quinn. I have a feeling he was gone at the end of the season. You know, it's a it's a shame because he had a great had great success is taking to Atlanta to the Super Bowl. Probably shouldn't want it. Um and had

a great career as a coordinator, defensive coordinator. But it just you know, since that Super Bowl loss, they have gone straight downhill in Atlanta, and I think they got to make a change, got to We'll come back more Guessing Lines Week ten. Chris Andrew's at Andrew's Sports. By the way, if you want to follow him on Twitter. I'm at beating the book at Andrew's Sports. Uh more week tend guessing lines looking for value. So far, Kansas City the one number that appears to be uh way

off to me. Everything else kind of in pocket. We'll see if we can find some more. It's coming up on a numbers game right here at Visa. Welcome back to a numbers game with kil Alexander. We won't talk about this in Guessing Lines because they obviously played a game in London yesterday and we'll be on by. But Houston crushes Jacksonville three. I was saying about Sam Donald Jacob, do you ever remember do you ever remember a guy who panics more and throws worse looking picks? I would

say this about Gardner Minshew. Do you even remember a guy who is better at when scrambling or when flushed out of the pocket, approaching the line of scrimmage but knowing it's as if that that thing, that line that we see on TV, it's as if he's aware of that line right. Clearly it's not there, but it's as if, you know, I've never seen someone better at approaching the line of scrimmage and throwing it right before he crosses

it than Gardner Minshew. Now that said, I think Nick Foles is starting in a couple of weeks because it was almost can you run that tweet that we had there. This is an interesting tweet because this was if you watch that London game and you know Houston got it done twenty three and we're obviously not gonna guess lines regarding this team. But the other one that I sent, do you remember the one regarding the here we go?

This is R. J. White. Some awful play calling from the Jags in the first half as they refused to attack, the Texans banged up secondary Deep going to start a conspiracy theory that Di Filippo intentionally sabotaged Minshew to get his Super Bowl quarterback back in the lineup, and you can't stop me. It means you can't stop me from starting the conspiracy theory. But I think all those things are true. I think Minshaw is really good at that, and I think he's done. I think Folds will get

the start. Uh in two weeks, Minshu ends up four and four as the Jaguar starter. If that is indeed the case. We remember Chrissie Andrews from the South Point Hotel Casino sports book is the director of said sports book. I'm not sure if you agree with that about Minshew, but I was. I was admired that about him, Like

I've never seen a guy do that so well. Point, you know, I think going into next year, um, and I think Dave Damna Chick, who's with the NFL network, tweeted this out yesterday, when Falls gets back, he'll be the quarterback. But Mint, you might be the starter next year. And look for the for Foals to be the starting quarterback in Chicago next year. So I don't know, that's a lot of pieces to a puzzle, but yeah, I

wouldn't called crazy. Somebody's gonna be somebody's gonna be the quarterback in Chicago next year, Chris, and I don't think it's the guy who's there now. All right, what's next, man, what's next year? Okay, we've got Baltimore at Cincinnati. Alright. Well, Baltimore with the you know, arguably one of the big wins of the NFL season last night they beat the Patriots for those who missed, at thirty seven to twenty. They do it as three point dogs at home. Lamar

Jackson seventeen of twenty three sixty three yards. That's through the year, one touchdown, no picks, one sack, sixteen carries sixty one yards for another two touchdowns, just filling up a statute. He's on the shortlist of m VP candidates. Um, even though I think it's uh, you know, a little bit down the list, but he's on the shortlist anyway. Mark Ingram fifteen carries a hundred fifteen yards. The Ravens out possessed if you will, the Patriots thirty seven minutes

in one second. Nine Uh, they were the NFL's leading ground attack heading in they got two ten yards on the ground. Basically this game last night, they were up seventeen to nothing, and then the game sort of turn on Cyrus Jones muffing a punt that led to a New England touchdown, then mark Ingram fumble that made it

seventeen to ten. The Pats ended up down seventeen to thirteen at the end of the first half, and they were getting the ball to begin the second half, so basically, you know, looked like it was gonna be a Ravens runaway, and then halfway through, you're like, look at these Patriots, They're gonna win this game the way they're they're handling in. But then a Julian Edelman fumble after the Patriots matriculated down the field on that first drive in the secon

and half, Edelman fumbles Marlon Humphrey to the house. Um, And I don't want to say they they never looked back, because the Patriots did score subsequently to cut to twenty, but they never trailed from that point forward. That was really a play they needed to get a bigger lead and boost confidence at that point. Uh, maybe the signature moment of the game, Brady through a pick with twelve

fifty seven left. Jackson then led a methodical nine and a half minute drive that ended with a one yard score from him that ended New England's thirteen game winning streak dating the last season, including the playoffs. And then the first drive of the game, it was very uncharacteristic New England night Baltimore lined up for a field goal, she Lee Calhoun jumped into the neutral zone to give the Ravens the first down. They ended up scoring a touchdown.

Very Unpatriots like. So it's very unpatriots like from the very beginning. And yet they were still in it for a while because they're the Patriots. Baltimore tenant two straight up after a bye under Jim Harbaugh now who took over back in two thousand and eight. I know how you feel about John Harbaugh. Not Jim Harball, John Harball, who you've called the second best coach in football for many years, Chris. And then there's Cincinnati who they're playing.

Cincinnati is now because Miami one, they're the only winless team in football and have the currently number one pick in the draft. Of the draft were to be today, which of course it is not Baltimore minus ten on the road at Cincinnati. That's my guess. Uh, yeah, you're right on, it's ten and ten and a half. I like the lower number. Once again, we have a home dog that goes to the road favorite and uh that's three plays right there. You have got that one system.

I think there's not risk too high. By the way, we haven't mentioned Zach Taylor has a one and done coaches and probably should be. But you know, you know, the Brown family there notoriously cheap, and I'm sure he has more than a one year contract and they are going to eat the rest of those couple of years, even though they have the wrong guy the wrong position. But even though that the wrong positions, absolutely, But you know,

you know you've been watching football. I mean I've seen the Brown family for how many years have they owned this branch of like forty years? Since they're inception. They that's what they do. Um, who's the quarterback? Riley was another guy I had to look up? Who the hell is e Baily? There you go. It shows how much I know, uh, you know, I'll tell you what. I

feel sorry for Andy Galton. I think there's a kid that probably could have been good with the right coaching, spent his whole career with bad coaching and never quite not that he would have been at all pro, but he probably could have been a lot better than than he has been in his career. Anyway, all that being said, you know, I'm an open ten. I think the public probably comes in on Baltimore. But I gotta tell you,

I like Cincinnati. I think they I think Baltimore is probably uh, you know, filling their oats a little bit after that women in New England. And I don't see him being sky high for this game. And I've been Cincinnati going to cover this one. You know, I'm well, they win, I doubt it, but plus ten, I think that's the right side. I'll just ask this as we go to break. If Baltimore's ten at Cincinnati, how is Kansas City only three and a half at Tennessee? Will

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on down the line. Jacob is in for Jeff this morning. Where's Jeff? By the way, Jacob, he was on Green Zone yesterday, so they gave him morning. Also, you can prep for market Watch tonight. Oh he can't. He can't do the show because he did the show yesterday and it's gonna do his show. By the way, Jeff has a show Monday through Friday here called called Marco Watch four pm Pacific, seven pm Easter Monday through Friday. I'm just messing with Jeffrey. Okay, so he'll be back tomorrow. Jacob,

you're doing a fine job. By the way, he he appreciate you. It was nice having you last time too, on a Friday. We got to actually interact. We gotta get today. It's a little different though, So I apologies. I'm among giants today. I totally understand. Well, Chriss easy for sure. We get tweets. By the way, I'm beating the book. Let me just go through some of these. Uh, this is bad, Pete Moss did did Chris just tip his hand about a follow up book to his Amazon bestseller?

Then one day on Visa Lives a numbers game with Gil might be a collaboration with Jimmy Vicaro. Nonetheless, we need this historical stories documented. People speculating Chrissie, We'll bringing Chris Andrews. People are speculating who you're doing this with. Uh Nicholas Griggs, you tied your guessing lines record today. What he means is for the furthest off guest, I don't know. Are we giving me Kansas City? Are we giving me a mulligan on the Kansas City and my

shifting it to minus seven and a half. We're going with my first guest minus ten? What's the ruling? Jacob will leave it to you. I think we go with the outrage and go with a ten. Let's go with the right. So I tied my record, You're right minus ten. Uh the Bears seven eight eight seven eighth three two. I love when people have to tweet Twitter handles like that. I'm thinking the left tackle hit his elbow. Oh that's what the jamis Winston FuMO, Okay, maybe it did. Goldie

don l Dono. NFL lines are good all, but Gil, can you get onto the serious stuff? And there's a picture of Super Bowl fifty four halftime show. What will be the first song played from j Low or Shakira. So I gotta get on that. I gotta do my research, all right, give me some time. I gotta do all that stuff. Let's bring in Chris Andrews once again, the South Point Hotel Casino sports book director who was here to guess some lines. We have more early games, Chris,

any more of those to get to? Uh, well, we're gonna go one game got moved to the absent and then we've got an early game after that. Is that Goldie Dawn? Is that my buddy from Australia? Oh I didn't know. I didn't know. You know who Goldie Non was? Is the first I've ever gotten? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah yeah. I actually got to meet him in person after being Twitter friends with him for a long time. Great, great guy, great guy. Yeah, he's he wants me to start handycapping

j Low and Shakira. So I'm all over it. That would like him? Yeah, I'm all about it. Okay. Next up, we've got Carolina at Green Bay. Carolina at Green Bay, Carolina again wins their game yesterday. Uh, Carolina beats the Tennessee Titans thirty to twenty. They do so is three and a half point favorites and Green Bay losing, as we mentioned, the Chargers twenty to eleven in sort of shocking fashion, like we don't expect that kind of performance

for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. First, the Panthers, Uh, let me get the Alan correct, because there's Josh and there's brand and this is Kyle Allen seventeen of thirty two for two thirty two, two touchdowns, three picks, one time sacked. Uh. There, five and one are the Panthers with Kyle Allen as Carolina starting quarterback. Uh, this is how the conversation is going with Cam Newton. Hey, Cam, you're still hurt. No, actually, my foot is doing a

little better. Your your foot still hurt, Cam, Why don't you sit out a little while longer? So Cam's not I don't know if we'll ever see Cam again because they are off the hook. Are the Panthers after this year? They have no obligations to Cam Newton after this season is over. So Kyle Allen five and one is Carolina

starting quarterback. He remains the Panthers starting quarterback. And as you mentioned earlier, Christian McCaffrey another week, another filling up of the box score, twenty four carries for one d forty six yards, two touchdowns, three catches for twenty in a touchdown, one hundred sixty six yards from scrimmage, averaging six point one yards per carry halfway through the season. Now because the Panthers of five and three, the third year back leads the NFL with twelve hundred and forty

four yards from scrimmage and thirteen touched in touchdowns. And as I like to say, Chrissie, his heisman is somewhere at Derrick Henry's house. That's the other thing that bothers me about Christian McCaffrey. Remember how bad the East Coast byas was then a couple of years back. Yeah, Oh

my god. D J. Moore, d J. Moore, seven catches a hundred one yards riverboat Ron Ron Rivera went for it on fourth and two early in the game, a gamble that resulted in a seven yard touchdown from Allen to McCaffrey, and then the third quarter at seventeen to Evan when the game was really still in the balance. He uh he signed off on a fake punt fourth and fourth from his own thirty six that they converted. Swung the momentum to Carolina. And then there's the Packers.

And let's continue with the talk about the Packers because we mentioned earlier the Chargers and the Packers earlier. But Aaron Rodgers twenty three or thirty five yesterday for one sixty one one touchdown note pics he was sacked three times. The one sixty one yards passing is his fifth lowest total UH in his whole career when he plays all four quarters, so fifth lowest total ever for him. And the sixty one yards he was at sixty one yards

through three quarters. That's a career low sixty one yards from Aaron Rodgers, who had you know, look at he's always got that expression of nonchalance and sort of like that the hybrid of nonchalance and arrogance. But but because it's Aaron Rodgers, were okay with it because he always gets it done. Yesterday it was one of those days we're like, I don't know if there's a pulse here. And by the way, Jamal Williams, I should point this out. Uh, he had a ten yard a touchdown cash with six

one remaining. Maybe you shouldn't celebrate when you're getting crushed. Maybe you shouldn't do that. That was a bad look four game winning street for the Packers. Snap, look, there's still seven and two. But Aaron Jones came in averaging a hundred thirty seven point eight scrimmage yards in his past four games, held to twenty nine yards thirty rushing minus one receiving, and Tavante Adams made his return seven catches forty one yards after missing the last four games

because of turf toe. But they just got destroyed by a Chargers team who again, maybe you thought they could do it on offensive Chargers, but defensively just absolutely snimy Aaron Rodgers, and that Packers defense is not very good. All that said, it is Kyle Allen against Aaron Rodgers. Hate to just sort of simplify it to quarterbacks. So that alone is gonna make this way more than three. I'll double it. I won't quite make it seven. I'll

say Green Bay minus six. Yeah, it's funny you say it, because while I was making my numbers myself, I thought it was six and I was debating between six and six and a half. But it's come five and a half, even a couple of fives, and I like that better. Uh as I looked back. I think I've really been underestimating Carolina. I think there are a lot better than I have in my ratings, and you know, probably a

lot of that is Alan at quarterback. You know, I just expected him to come to earth at some point. I'm not that he's been fantastic, but he's he's pretty good. And you know, when you've got McCaffrey back there with you, that's gonna make you pretty good too. The defense isn't bad. Um, you know, i'd like I like this team. I'm not sure I love him in this spot particularly, And I don't want to go overboard downgrading Green Day after one bad performance. It really was the first really bad all

the second I guess of the year. But uh, you know, I don't want to downgrade now. But I think I've been underestimating Carolina. So I'm gonna open this game five and a half. I think that's better than the numbers that I was looking at originally, which were six or six and a half That in afternoon game, Chris, Uh, that got moved to the afternoon. Yes, that's all right, let's do the rest of the afternoon games. What else you got Miami at Indianapolis. Alright, Miami, break up the Dolphins.

They get a win, Brian Flores first career win as the Dolphins head coach, as they beat the Jets. As we talked about earlier there one in seven Indianapolis five and three. Um, they lose yesterday to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, I gotta tell you something. They lose twenty to twenty four. By the way, Steelers end up covering the one point spread on this. I had the Colts, Chris, and I am chased. I'm just livid about this game. One. Jacoby

Brisette gets hurt. That's the first thing. You can't anticipate that hurt. When Quentin Nelson Uh stepped on his ankle then tweaked his lower leg when he was blocking Hayward. Uh picks. Basically, the Cults are in control of this game. They're matriculating, they're driving there in the red zone pick six to Minca Fitzpatrick. There was that there was a so you gotta assume there. You don't assume a touchdown for the Colts, but you gotta assume, let's say a

field goal. So that's a ten point swing. Let's call it. UM. I guess you can't assume anything with Adam Vinitary, but let's just say that's a ten point swing right there. Then there was a horrific personal foul penalty at the end of the first half that was a phantom call. There was at least two questionable roughing penalties on the Colts um. There was a phantom d p I reviewed not overturned, which put Pittsburgh in game winning field goal range.

There was a blocked p A T. There was a shank game winner because they still had a chance to win. Did the Colts at the end, which would have been a push for most people, but terrible hold where the Laces were facing Vinitary. Fifth miss this season for Vinitari in seventeen attempts, and now Indianapolis is out of first place. They trail Houston. Houston six and three. Indianapolis is five

and three. They trailed by a half game. Will it be Jacoby Brissette moving forward or will it be Brian Hoyer. Brissette left in the second quarter with the left knee injury didn't return. Indianapolis came in having won five of six, but they won five of six by combined nineteen points. Each of their eight games this season has been decided by a touchdown or less. So Hoyer seventeen twenty six, three touchdowns, one pick, the horrific pick six and four

times sacked in that game. And then there's the Dolphins that I don't know if we have to go too far into the Dolphins, but they get their first win, and congratulations to them. They came into the week outscored one thirty to twenty in the second half. Now it's one thirty five, by the way, they had yet to score a point in the third quarter. They got a field goal and Flora's gave his team Monday off, so they're off today after that, after that big victory. Yeah,

so I guess it's Hoy. Are we assuming Hoyer here, because to me, there's there's a bit of a difference. I'll just say Indianapolis minus seven and a half because it's exactly what I made Pittsburgh in that game against Miami. If it were Brissette, I'd say it's a little more. But I'm gonna assume Hoyer, and I'm gonna assume minus seven and a half. Well, lawyer, I mean, Brissette is questionable, but almost everybody has the game up, so I'm not sure they see a big difference in the number. Again,

I'm with you, I see a difference. Uh, But anyway, I see the game anywhere from ten and a half eleven and a half. I personally like the lower number. I'm a ten and a half on this one because, like you said that, the the Colts tend to play some very very close games, and uh, you know, Miami, you never know how a team like this they win one game at the party in all week. Now, they might be I don't know they might be, but I do like the lower number. I'm gonna open ten and

a half on this line. By the way, I have to apologize our listeners had skipped a game. We've got Detroit at Chicago, which is a morning game. So my um moost humble apologies, most humble apologies accepted. By the way, Dolphins avoid what would have been their second oh and eight starting franchise history. Uh. That's their highest point total of the season in this game where where they scored Miami scoring twenty six win over the Jets, first win

since the Miami miracle over New England last season. UM for the Dolphins, who led for the final thirty six minutes and fourteen seconds of this game. Entering yesterday, they had led for only a total of three minutes and forty six seconds and their first four home games combined. So um so you're saying it's yeah. By the way, we were all over Miami last week. We loved them against the Jets. Let's just point that out. And the

early move was on Miami. But the way overcome by you know, wise guys and the public coming back on the Jets. That was a big, big game for us yesterday. But we I stuck with Miami. I had them in a lot of contests and all that other stuff and really felt that they would win that game. Well there were that was a real good result. There were two that we had on guessing lines last week, the Dolphins and the Niners, which at the time of guessing lines

would have triggered bets. I had guessed ten on the Niners. It opened at eight, but by the time the game rolled around, it was already ten, and then the Dolphins. As you point out, it got all the way down to three. So I would have bet the Dolphins, but not at three. I didn't in the end and contest, so um one worked out because the Niners wouldn't have covered. They didn't cover the Dolphins did, so give it and take it away. So what was the other game? Chicago?

I'm sorry, Chicago. Detroit at Chicago. Alright, Detroit at Chicago. So Detroit we talked about. They lose to the Raiders. I don't know what that last play was from. Matthew Stafford tried to tie the game up, but uh, it was not to beat Karl Joseph with a stop and Detroit loses by a touchdown to the Raiders. Twenty four Matthew Stafford forty one for four hundred six yards, three

touchdowns and a pick. He was sacked twice. Golla Day remains as big as target four for one thirty two and a touchdown, although Marvin Jones eight catches for one six and a touchdown. Mckissic was a big part of their offense yesterday. Uh four for thirty two on the ground, three for forty through the air and touchdown. But they us for the fourth time in five games. The Lions are just so frustrating. Um, did you know that this

has nothing to do with betting? Do you know Matthew Stafford is now top twenty for most touchdown passes ever in the history of the National Football League. Uh, that was surprising to me. Also passed Drew Brees for the third most yards passing in his first eleven seasons with overt now, but either way, Detroit is Detroit. Their three four and one. You never know what you're getting with them from week to week. They're capable of winning every game,

and they're capable of losing every game. It just seems that way. And then there's the Bears, and maybe this is really the focus of this game. Mitch Robinsky yesterday, Mitchell Drobiskie is Michael Lombardi likes to call on Michael Lombardi. M v P Mitch, he says, mockingly derisively, Mitchell Drobiski yesterday. Now, this is what it says in the box scores. This is when the game's over. Ten of twenty one for one, no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked three times. Fourth

straight loss for the Bears. The Bears went three and out on their first five possessions they gained. Here's there's a snapshot here I have on my phone of the box score with two minutes left in the first half, with two minutes left. In the first half, they had minus ten yards total offense, three and out on their first five possessions, minus ten yards of offense. The halftime box score UM, which I have right next to it, they have a grand total of nine yards total yards

in the first half. They had no first downs at the two minute warning. They had one first down by halftime UM. But here they were in the game. Nonetheless, with those nine first half yards, they trailed nineteen to nothing. They got within nineteen to fourteen. They could have won this game, but there were only two of ten on third downs. They were out first down. If you will buy the Eagles in their nineteen and fourteen loss, it was gonna be twenty two to fourteen loss. Ultimately twenty

six to ten. They were out gained three seventy three to one sixty four. They had a hundred two passing yards total when you factor in sacks to sixty two on the ground. And they just allowed the main thing of this game, by the way, the Eagles had the ball for more than forty minutes, the Bears for for

less than twenty. Philly got up. They got the ball up nineteen to fourteen with eight forty left in this game, and they proceed to go on a sixteen play sixty nine yard drive cat by Jake Elliott's thirty eight yard field goal with twenty five seconds left. Carson Wentz kept converting third downs four for four on third downs before they had to kick the field wealth the end, so

there were four for five total. But basically they held the ball for eight fourteen of the remaining eight forty and that was the situation the Bears defense, the Bears vaunted defense, could not get the Eagles off the field. So as bad as Drabinsky was, there's blame to go around. I'll say Chicago minus one and a half just because I'm splitting the difference between a pick him in the three. Well, it's two and a half and three, uh, couple of three y won three flat, couple of threes with juice

the dog, but mostly two and a half. I'm gonna open to an f. By the way, my favorite stat that I think yesterday, and there's a bunch of funny ones. Scott Kasmar, who's a pretty good football writer, put this up. At some point during the first half, Chicago has more first downs than they do yards. Their first downs at that point were zero their total yards were minus two and zero. They had more first downs than yarded was minus too. I thought that was hilarious and a great

way to look at that. Anyway, I'm gonna go with two and a half and then you know, they'll probably lay it to me, and you know, God bless them, they could have it. I you know, I think Detroit they are frustrating Gil and there's no question about they're extremely frustrating, but they do have number one. They have Stafford, and I think they have some heart on that team in Chicago. You know, do you start losing heart? I think you do. You know, when your quarterback just cannot

produce no matter what, you know. I think it's one of those things that, yeah, you just you know, it takes takes the wind out of your sales, whether you're offensive or be on the offensive side or the defensive side. So I kind of like the Troy and like I say, you know, you take the two and a half's and you laid the three and alps. I know it's counterintuitive, but I think over the long, long haul, that's probably

the best strategy. Those are two and a half times out there, bet and I think I'll played the Troy. I was gonna say, if it's three, I would grab Detroit. Yeah, yeah, because there's no actually one three flat, I would take that just because I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I don't know the justification for the Bears being three point favorites against the Troy Yeah, one more, one more before the prime time Los Angeles at the Steelers as Rams

at the Steelers. All right, So this is the team, the Steelers that I have a markedly different opinion from the market, as we've discovered last two weeks, both against the Dolphins and this past week against the Colts, my opinion being much less of your Pittsburgh Steelers. But give it to the Steelers. They were one and four and now they're four and four. They're actually alive. Mason Rudolph yesterday and the win against the Colts thirty five for

one touchdown, one pick, He was sacked once. Jaln Samuel's thirteen catches or seventy three. Mike Tomlin quote, it's good to be sitting at four and four. I never thought you'd hear Mike Tomlins say that about a four and four record, but that's the case. Steelers held on despite mustering just two hundred seventy three total yards, but just enough defense forced three turnovers. I mentioned that pick six. They got five sacks. Colts came in having allowed eleven

all year. Steelers sacked him five times. But that Minka Fitzpatrick trade. That's his fourth pick of the season, third and six days. Remember he had two on Monday night. Ninety six yards sprint on the pick six to the end zone tied the game when it appeared the Colts were ready to go up by double digits. That was everything in that game. Um, I'm gonna say the rams my in this six rams coming off a by Once again, you're anti Steeler bias is showing itself. I see the

game anywhere from three to four. Uh. Three of the low water market. By the way, the guy that opened the three happens to be a Pittsburgh so I want to say it was. But I'm open three and a half. Uh. I would definitely look to take the ford in this game. I think this game, I personally think three is okay. I'm gonna keep my eye on the market here, but it is three and happen four mostly four, But I'm gonna open three and a half. But I want to tell you. And I think I mentioned this before, but

I will reiterate it. The maink of Fitzpatrick trade was more than just uh, you know, value. I think it was a message to the to the players, to the to the whole Steeler organization, to the fans that we are not laying over to die. We are trying to put a contender on the field every single year. We're not tanking. We are gonna try to get in the playoffs. And then once we get in the playoffs, god knows what can happen. And that's think that's what that trade

was all about. And I said it at the time. We get debate value and all that other stuff. I know, a first round draft choices, you know, highly valued, and it should be. But I think that was the message of the trade. And you know what I mean, the kids really played exceptionally well. And uh, I was glad we made it at the time, and I'm even more glad about it now as a Steeler fan. And uh, you know you're gonna be on the rams. I like

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the NFL. Let's do the two primetime games, Christie. Let's go to Sunday night, boy. A couple are really good ones. Minnesota at Dallas, and the Thursday night game isn't terrible either. Huh the chart rated. We really got some great primetime games this week. Yeah, Minnesota at Dallas. Minnesota, as we mentioned,

lose to the Chiefs. Chiefs didn't have any of those players, not only not Mahomes, they didn't have Eric Fisher, they didn't have Laurent Duvernet Tardif on the offensive line, didn't have Kendall Fuller in the secondary, of Frank Clark and Alex oka for on the defensive line, and yet Minnesota still couldn't get it done. Kirk Cousins bully likes to beat up on the bad teams, not so much against the team nineteen thirty two, twenty three touchdowns Note picks

and one. Uh, he was sacked once. Minnesota six and three. Dallas hasn't played yet. They played the Giants tonight, their seven point road favorites, So without that, I'll just say Dallas as a placeholder should be minus three here. Yeah, I agree with you. I see some two and a half, a little bit of three, a couple of three flats, a couple of three with juice on the dog. I'm gonna open three. I think that's a decent place to open it. You know, let's see what happens tonight. But

I do agree with your sentiments Minnesota. You know, number one on the whole is less than the some of the parts, and they do tend to beat up on the weaker teams. Dalla is certainly not a week their team, but you know they have their issues too against their good teams. So I think it's a very interesting game with probably a lot of playoff implications. But I'm gonna use street is uh. Like I said, I just don't know what else to make it at this point, and

I think it's a decent place to start. Yep. I think that's it, uh, And then I think I know what's coming Monday night. What's Monday, Seattle at San Francisco. There it is the seven and two Seahawks against the only remaining undefeated in the NFL, the San Francisco forty nine is eight no first meeting between these two teams this year. Seattle, as we mentioned, beat the Bucks in overtime.

They were trailing to anyone to seven. They end up winning in o T after leading a great drive in the final seconds of regulation, only to see Jason Myers potential forty yard game winner miss sailing wide. Russell will Wilson finishing off one of the finest games of his already stellar career ten yard touchdown past Jacob Hollister on the opening drive of overtime. Seattle got the ball in

o T never relinquished it forty to thirty four. They beat the Buccaneers and Buccaneers backers just miserable at the push at best there, although as you said in contest, you got You've got the win there. Wilson in overtime five of eight for seventy yards, Wilson in the fourth quarter in overtime eleven of twenty for one seventy seven.

Wilson for the game twenty ninety three for three seventy eight, five touchdowns, no picks, third career game with five touchdowns, tying his career high for the season, twenty two touchdowns Chrissy twenty two touchdowns, one interception, first quarterback in the Super Bowl. Eer to post those numbers through a team's first nine games, his passer rating this is a rated out of one fifty eight point three. His passer rating has been one oh two or above an eight of

nine games. As I mentioned, they trailed seven midway through the second a win they absolutely needed because their schedule, as we talked about, the Browns are really easy. The rest of the way, just to as as a point of contrast, well Seattle, the rest of the way is brutality. Uh no games, or I should say, final seven games, with six of the seven against teams currently above five hundred. And in fact, if we go through those games real quick,

they are as follows San Francisco at San Francisco. Here, so at San Francisco Monday night, by then at Philly home Minnesota at the Rams at Carolina, then the one easy one home against Cardinals, and then closing the year home against the Niners. My goodness, So here they are taking on the Niners. As we mentioned, Niners on extra rest. They beat the Cardinals last Thursday night, though they did not cover eleven of seventeen for the Niners that night.

On third Day, Owns got the Cliff Kingsbury gift with the time out at the end of the first half, so a lot went their way. I'll say Niners minus six, Niners minus six. Yeah, it's anywhere from five and a half to six and a half. You know, six definitely the predominant number. I like the lower number here. I'm opening five and a half. I tell it. You know, have by something the praises of Russell Wilson enough. This kid is so good. I mean, he is just a

winner now I say that. But San Francisco, I think has been fantastic this year. Somebody pointed it out. I can't remember it was on ESPN or on to somebody said it, and they're right. San Francisco can beat you in a variety of ways, throwing the ball, running the ball, defensively. You know, that is a very very good team, very well coached, pretty good personnel. Uh you know, and a couple of years ago this was just an atrocious franchise. They've turned it around rather quickly, and I think it's

a very good team. I don't mean to to estimate San Francisco, but you know, Josh Gordon maybe in the lineup for Seattle. That gives Russell Wilson one more big weapon if if he's right, and that's a huge question mark. But Russell Wilson this give is this dynamite. I mean, I don't know what else I could say about him. He's fantastic and I see him keeping this game very very close. I'm gonna open five and a half. They

might lay it to him, they might not. I don't know, but I like five and a half better than the six. Tyler Lockett thirteen catches, one two touchdowns, DK metcalf six or one twenty three. He had a big fifty three yard catch touchdown late in the fourth, big key twenty nine yard or an ot um. Everything you say is right, you know, And you know you mentioned that thing about the Niners, that they were sort of like just a franchise, a wayward franchise. So recently there was a moment that

where people were comparing Jed York to Daniel Snyder. There was a moment there and he did three things correctly that Daniel Snyder can't ever seem to get right. One is he hired a great coach who, by the way, happened to be right there at Redskin Park, Kyle Shanahan. Yes, let's point that out too. He got a great he got he got a call him great, but he got a really really good quarterback who could be great, we

don't know yet, in Jimmy Garoppolo. And the third thing he did is he stood the hell out of the way Chris, and so we hired Lynch and little manager. Yeah that's right. Um, so that's the difference. And look there eight no, and the Redskins are one one in eight. So sometimes a couple of years back, when the Niners were pretty bad and then everybody was singing the praises of the Raiders, he said, who do you make the favorite to make the Super Bowl? First? You know, the Raiders,

And what do you make the price? And I think I made the writers like a dollar or twenty or something like that. And he started laughing because I agree with you. But people were thinking they're like four to one over the Niners, and I would not be so crazy about the Raiders, right, now, I think the Niners, and that's after they hired Lynch, and I think after they might have been right when they hired Shanahan, you know, it wouldn't be so crazy. But going against the forty Niners,

I think it's a franchise on the uprise. Yeah, all right, well we'll review all these. We'll see what we like best coming up on the show. But in between now and then, story time, a classic story time from Chris Andrews. Chrissie standing by with that. Next on a numbers game right here at Visa. Welcome back to a numbers game with Jill Alexander. It's a treat we promised you we do this every once in a while. This year it's a story time classic. We started this way. Hey everybody,

it's story time. Hi everyone, it's story time or something like that. But their voice didn't crackt like mind, did Chrissy have at it? What's the story? Okay? Well, in honor of the breeders, cuff I got a great horse racing story. Horse racing is all about a heartbreak, and this is a great heartbreaker right here. This is four and I'll get to it a little later. While I

remember the exact year. I'm in Reno. I had had this one friend of mine, older guy who was a horse owner, a horse breeder primarily at the Northern California tracks, taught me a really a lot about horse racing in general, and that we became pretty good friends too. I'm in Reno. He calls me up one day says, hey, can you make it down to Bay Meadows? Uh, tomorrow? I think we got something going. And as soon as he said that,

I said, yeah I could be there. Sure. I didn't even know what it was yet, you know, but yeah, sure I could be there. So you know, yeah, what do we got going? He says, well, we gotta pick six carry over half a million dollars and like the little backstory, pick six as were something rather new, and so we gotta pick six carry over of half a million dollars in five of the six races. The kids and I knew who the kids were. They were like the assistant trainers for one of the leading trainers in

Northern California. The kids told me that a five of the six races, the odds on favorites cannot win the races. And that's one thing I love, you know, who can win the race, that's nice. If you know who cannot win the race, that's even better. And if you know it's a favorite that can't win the race, well that's pure gold. You know what you do? You know what. I already love about the story. But the best part is when you go, I'm in, what are we doing?

You have no idea? When he believe I knew this guy for a couple of years and I don't know him. You know, he made his living off horses. You're betting them breathing or whatever. He knew the horse, So yeah, right away. So now I have my wife, my infant son, who was born in June, so there's only like two months or three months old. Uh So, I said, you know, now, unfortunately her mother lived in Fremont, California, so just south of the Bay. Uh So, I said, okay, we're going

to Baby Meadows. Pack up. We're going in the morning, so we have to leave early. I gotta be at this one restaurant in uh San Mateo, kind of a wise guy restaurant that I've been to a couple of times before. Then he says, this is where we're gonna meet, and we're gonna you know, talk about the pick six. So we go there that the two kids are there, and we go through and I'm like Jesus, and I mean, I'm looking at the forum. These horses are gonna be

like eight to five. You know. They said yeah, because I'm telling you they cannot win. They can't win. They're all crippled up. You know, they've been shooting them up with uh, you know, whatever the drug is to make them look good. They're they're hoping every one of these horses gets cleaned. And said, okay, so we look, we put together a ticket. My father in law also have to be a big horse player. So my wife leaves, uh, takes the kid and goes with her mother, and my

father in law comes with us. So we go, we're going, we're going to put together a ticket. So we're all pretty good handicappers. And Fred I'll call this guy that's not as the only name. Try to have a couple other guys with him too, who I didn't know. All pretty good handicappers. So we look at the races. We put together a ten thousand dollar tickets. I take a thousand of it, so I take ten You gotta remember how twenty eight years old a thousand dollars to me

at that time is an absolute fortune. But I do know what this guy he is. And then I'm sitting there and thinking, yeah, you know, I'll throw a thousand in there. And I had some horse winnings that I had to kind of put aside, so um, so, yeah, okay, I'm in for a dime, you know. So like I said, now we go to the track, put in our ticket, ten thousand dollars pick six tickets, and the first race comes up. It's like a thirty dollar horse. We got him,

second race, twenty dollar horse. We got him third race. And I might be a little off on the on the order twenty dollar horse, We've got another thirty dollar horse. We got another twenty dollar horse. We got every horse paid well into double busits. We had all five. Now this is back in the day. They didn't announce like the will pays, or like how many tickets are allot and all that other stuff, and even you know, the strategy in pick six betting was not fully developed at

this time. We probably could have done it a little better, but we did what we did. So now this guy had, being a horse owner and breeder, he had a lot of connections at the track and they don't announce, you know, how many tickets or anything like that. But he calls up to the office and first of all, they didn't even tell you what the what the money was in the pool. He says, Okay, listen, the pool got bet up to seven hundred and fifty thousand. There's one picket alive.

It's yeah, so seven hundred, so I'm looking at ten percent of it. Uh so. So Now again he's a horse owner, breeder, he has paddock privileged. Now, when I said five of the six races the favorite can't win, the kids told us there's one favorite that will win, and that's the last race on the card, seven or five favorite. Now, girl, I know you don't follow the horses a lot like the other guys that were probably listening right now. There's a race you almost never saw

at that time. And I would venture to say, in North America, you have not seen this racing years seventy claimers, so really cheap horses for in a mile and a quarter on the dirt. I mean it's almost unheard of, and it was almost unheard of back then and totally unheard of in this day and age. So a mile in a quarter in the the it. But they said, listen, there's only one horse in this race and he's gonna be seven or five, but he cannot be beat. So

we single him in the last race. And we figured if we get the last race, we've got some maneuver ability. So one of our maneuvers was we we pitched in. We bought the jockey a nickel ticket to win five win on the on the on our horse, on our horse. And like I said, this guy had paddock privileges. He and I go down to the paddock. Now he doesn't want to be seen doing this, so he tells me, said, go hand the jock this ticket five who went on

his horse. I got these guys, you know. At the time man looks just say, it's not like Lafitte, pink Eye, no shoemaker riding these horses, you know. So I forget his name. I wish I could remember the name of the job today, you know, whatever your name. And he looks at me. I said, here you go, and I give him the ticket and he looks at it and he like looks at me. I said, yeah, we need to to win this one, and he like sticks it in his belt or wherever he did, you know. So

he's got the nickel pick at the wind. So if it wins and the horses seven o five, it's like Bucks ran. You know, that's a big score for these guys, you know. So we go back up to the box, say anything, tod He no, he just looked at me like kind of lauded, you know. He didn't say anything. No, he didn't, not a word he understood. And I just like I said, we need you to win this one.

So I go back to the buck. Now by this time, my wife along with the baby because they let's you know, let little kids into the track, into the turf club and all that. So we're right at the finish line at the turf club. Like I said, my guy had pretty good connections. My wife's back there, got the baby, you know, my step my mother in law's back there too, you know there, so we're all rooting. They kind of know what we got going. So there we go. The

gate opens up. Our jockey takes, of course, out to the front. I'd say it's the my own a quarter race. He goes, and I know you're probably on the fall at the times, you know, but he takes the first quarter in like twenty three and change. He does behalf and like forty six and something, and you know, and I like lean over to my body thread and I this is how I know it was nineteen eight four because Swale won the Derby and eighty four. That's where

I got. I had a big bet on Swale in the future book, and that's how I know it was nineteen eighty four. I lean over till my say, he's running faster than Swale in the Derby. Swale is like a twenty million dollar horse, for sure. There's a Sevlaimer. He's going faster and swill And I look over and my friend who he has about half this ticket, so

it's about three D seventy five thousand for him. He is white, you know, used whatever cliche you want to put in, white as a ghost, white as a sheet whatever. I mean, the blood has gone. I mean he knows at this point we ain't got the winner. You know, this this ticket, he's so excited. This horse is up by at least ten lengths, you know, I mean he's out and I mean I mean he's he's a wrong story. And like I'm just like sitting back. I'm not even root and I'm not even screen. I mean, here, I

got seventy five dollars on the line. I'm not even rooting or screen. Not my wife, my ex wife, I should say, by the way, my ex wife. She said, come on, come on. She looks at me. She's like mad at me because I'm not excited about this something. And I am not going to get excited because I know we have the loser right now. We are not we are not going to win this. And she's mad at me. You're just being a you know, a party

poop or not. I'm thinking, yeah, if you know my genealogy, both halves of it were rather a dour people, you know, so we're rather a dollar people. Yes, and they take a lesson in that. And I know we have to lose it out. We come around and I forget all the rest of the fractions, you know. But like now, I mean, the horse is really starting to slow down. You know, he's shortening stride. You can see he's breathing hard. But drop he's whipping him, you know, like crazy. Now.

You know, like I said, you gotta remember, every other horse in the race is a total piece of crap. To. You know, like I said, SAMs, we get to the eighth poll, we're still ahead by about maybe three or four lengths. I'm like that. So now I start thinking maybe we got a shot. We get to the sixteen poll, he's up by about three. I'd say. Now I'm standing up. I can't resist that. I got to come on, come on, I'm screaming at the top of my line. Come on,

my buddy still hasn't moved. Now, thank you, he's still. And here's one horse kind of emergence from the pack. Come on, come on, and don't you know, needless to say, the one horse emergence from the pack and nails us by like a head a shorthand, you know, like right at the wire like that where our boxes, like right on the wire, nails by. I had and I looked. I just snipped back. I look up to the stars, and you've gotta be kidding me. You've gotta be kidding me.

And you know, like I looked at my buddy, I said, we should have never boughtom that ticket. No kidding, no kidding, we never should on that thing it, you know, needless to say. They among the horse owners and trainers, they called the jockeys pinheads. We never said that that that thicket is what he did. He killed it and he just ran his race. We don't win that by a mob. The fact that you got sent back into you know, we got stuck bad about the six tea pot. I

couldn't resist that. I had to jump up and you know for last, you know, the race. I'm screaming my lungs out, and uh, you know it was not to be so like meanwhile, there's a huge carry over to the next day, seven hundred fifty thousand, and you know, we went for it again the next day. But it wasn't the same thing, you know, I mean, we had

you know, favorites. One you know, we put together about I think I think I want to say, like about a two or three thousand dollar ticket something like that, and you know I only took a small piece of that,

but that didn't matter. We didn't win anyway, And just one of those days that probably made a couple of bucks over the days, and you know, it was one of those things that you know, I probably did make a few dollars over the over the two days, but it's just you know, had a chance to make twenty eight years old, chance to make seventy seventy five thousand dollars, probably a little more in that with all the consolations

and all that other stuff. And it's right there a matter of inches, a matter of inches really in honor of the Breeders Cup this past week at a classic story, which is it is in the book by the way that among so many others. Yeah, then one day from Chris Anders will come back. We'll review our picks for guessing lines. That story is awesome coming back right here on the numbers game in visa welcome back to a numbers game with Jill Alexander. We should have never given

that pen had that money. There's a couple of things. There's a couple of things about that story. Chris and I love so much. One again at the beginning when you're like, I'm in what is it that we're doing? Uh? And then too at the end you go, have you met my family? Ours is a dour people. Ours is a dour people. All right, here's what I like. In week ten. I like the Chiefs because my number is just ridiculously off what it is. But if you're telling me it's my homes and the Chiefs that minus three

and a half? Uh this week at where is that game at? At at Tennessee. Yeah, I'll take the Chiefs there. I also like Detroit if you're giving me three. I also like the Rams if it's only four. If the Rams are only four at Pittsburgh, you know my bias against the Steelers. I'm all about the Rams and I kind of like the Dolphins. Kind of like the Dolphins because every Colts game is closed. What do you think of here, Chris Well? First thing is run to the counter.

As soon as we get off the show. I'm gonna open the Rams three and a half. Save yourself half a point? Uh, I kind of. I like the Bills plus the two. I know it's probably gonna be a public side, but I think the public is gonna be right on that one. I like the Falcons plus the points. I like the Bengals plus the points, and uh, my good friend, I'm gonna go against that. I like the Steelers in that game. So that's why I'm opening at

three and a half, although there's plenty of fours round. Yeah. Yeah, and you're a Steeler. You grew up in Pittsburgh, so you're kind of locked into them. Um, well, yeah, I mean I try not to be biased. I really don't. I mean, I really do. I try not to be biased,

but I think that that I think. I think right now they're playing some pretty good football and even if you look at all their losses, I mean, other than the New England game where they got watched, their losses are by two or three and four points, So I mean they're going to keep it close. I think the Rams they don't want to knock their Rams. Yeah, I mean, I didn't mean biased. I just meant, you know, tuned in as I am with the with the skins, all right,

guessing lines week ten. Hope you went through the exercise with us. Chrissy, thank you. The story is available. And then one day that is so much more