Beating The Book: 2019 NFL MegaPod Week 17 Preview

Todd Wishnev, how are you doing Toddy here? Gil Todd is Todd is having Todd is having some issues at his building. So thus the quick response and Jeff parlay the laugh you heard on the right. My producer number five cant enough to join us. How you doing, Jeff better? You know I'm better than Todd. Because the fiasco to Mr Wishnevs had to deal with over the last two

days does not sound fun. Todd tell the people what happened at three am on Christmas Eve, three o'clock in the morning, I hear a big sound in my apartment. I go, I think it's coming from outside. I can't figure out what it is. Then my neighbor starts, somebody's banging on my door at three o'clock in the morning. I'm getting a little nervous. It's my neighbor. He's like, oh, there's water from in the downstairs apartment, coming from my water heater. We go outside, my water heater has exploded

and there's water everywhere. And of course you can't get a plumber on Christmas Eve or Christmas, so just tons of fun. So is the water heater or the building water heater in your apartment specifically, it's the it's the water heater that's in my apartment out on the patio. I didn't realize that, So now you have you also have the burden of that, the guilt of that. Well, well it's not it's not my fault. It's just the owners of the apartment that didn't you know, don't have

a good water here, right, I know. But that's why they came banging on your door. Anyway. Oh yeah, I'm so sorry, Tod. It's actually just it's lucky I was in town because it would have been a real major disaster. Yeah. I had a burst from the apartment next door and I said the same thing. There was. There was water all over my apartment from the burst in the apartment next door. I was like, if I had been out of town, the entire apartment would have been toast. So

let's do the podcast. Let's get you out of there watching football. Get you out of the cold, because you must be freezing. Man, are you cold? It's a little chili in here. Oh my god, Todd Wish and have planned hurt. There will be no singing on this podcast. Is that what you're telling us right now? Off the top, I'm not really in a case seeing the Sunshine band mood today. It was phenomenal last week. All right, well, let's talk football. Let's get through it. We should be

real quick. Then a week seventeen tough to come up with three games or three sides or totals every week, but in week seventeen it's nearly impossible. But we will try to do so because people have the thirst for the at least opinions, and then they can choose to go with them or not. There's no Circle update because Mike Palm cannot make it today. We'll try to at Mike's picks by the end of the show. You want to send him a text home just to see what's up.

If you can get text like last week, we'll do that. Let us begin with and there's and by the way, there's no Thursday night games, so there's nothing to talk about there. Let's begin with the best bets Jeff Parlay. By the way, Jeff Parlay hosts the show at Visa as well. I bury the headline he hosted as Jeff Parl's each and every Monday through Friday called market Watch as well. People should know about that. Four to six, seven and nine yep, seven and nine Eastern time to

seven nine Eastern time. You know, Gil, this is a terrible weeks. Terrible. So so what I'm going to do is, I'm going to go back to the Todd Wish Nev Well and I'm gonna go over in a Tampa Bay Buccaneer games since we had one that went under last week. And Jamis Winston is two interceptions away from joining the ranks of jose Can saco and and Barry Bonds and William Made. I'll wait a second, that's the wrong sport. Jamie throws two picks that he gets the thirty picks

along with the thirty one touchdowns he already has. He nearly threw two pick six is in the first two minutes of the game against Houston on Saturday. The second one was called back on a on a penalty on the return. But look, I'm seeing for gil it's a forty seven and a half or forty eight on this total for Atlanta and Tampa. Because I'm seeing both on my screen. It doesn't matter the number. I'll go over either of the forty seven and a half wins out.

I'll take the less I'll take the lesser number very happily. I'll go over to forty seven and a half. Look, Atlanta, Atlanta's offense, Julio Jones has been absolutely incredible. Uh, he's I would expect that he's expected to play. Uh. Dan Quinn, we don't know if he's gonna be out or not after this game. But I'll go over to forty seven and a half in Tampa Atlanta forty seven and a half. It is, Todd, I don't know if that's allowed. Is

it allowed that he bites your pick? Tampa Bay overs It was gonna be my first pick too, So alright, well there you go, there you go. First pick for both. We've said this many times before this season, but I'll say it again. That was the most Jamis game ever against Houston on Saturday, forty five, one touchdown, four picks, three sacks. It was his eleventh career game with at least three interceptions, and Bradley Robbie returned one of those

four picks. Is Jeff mentioned twenty seven yards to the house to begin the game. It's the sixth pick six the Bucks QB has thrown this season. Six and the Bucks say we're going with Jamison. They are going with Jamis Winston. And here's the one thing I will say about Jamis Winston. Could you imagine having a just the ability to not care like he did, like having that type of conscience where you're like, I'm just gonna play through. It doesn't matter what happens short memory, I'm playing the

next series. So I guess in that respect, I give him credit. But Tampa Bay Atlanta, Jeff going over forty seven and a half. By the way, Tampa Bay now one point favorite in that game. But are both of you guys over forty seven and a half on Tampa Bay Pick number one for me, Kansas City, I'm taking the Chiefs. I'm laying the points against the Chargers. On guessing lines, I guess that this would be ten, much to my surprise, and one of those picks where Christie

Andrews said, I like your number a lot better. It was seven to open, it's now nine. I'm still taking it. As long as it's below ten, I am grabbing the Chiefs. Now. The NFL has legislated out the possibility of correlated parlays or games that impact other games occur at different times. This is concurrent. This is happening at the same time

as the New England Miami game. So again, if New England wins, they get the number two position in the a f C playoffs and therefore first round by Kansas City would need to win and have New England lose for Kansas City to jump them and get to the number two seed in the first round by. So I don't know how much scoreboard watching is gonna be going on. If Kansas City sees that New England's up three touchdowns let's say against the Dolphins, Sure could they whole back

and not cover this? Yeah, I'll take that risk. The Chargers last week, and I talked about it a lot on Guessing Lines, the display by Anthony Lynn at the end of the first half, and I won't get into the details again, but just the mismanagement, the fact that Philip Rivers is allowed to just run things and make all the bad decisions. They don't do things on offense when they're supposed to, they call time outs when they're not supposed to. And then there's the whole Philip Rivers

thing that he's checked out. There was a block he could have made. I said this on Guessing Lines. You need a difference between Philip Rivers and Tom Brady. Besides everything, the fact that Tom Brady will throw a key block in a key situation, but Philip Rivers will punt on it, that he will make an executive decision and just say, you know what, business decision. I'm not blocking. Oh my thumb hurts. I gave it a try. I could have sprung Auston Ekeler for a fifteen yard game, just decided

not to block. I think the Chargers are done. I think they're already on vacation Kansas City giving the nine points. That's pick number one, number two. Jeffrey, all right, I'm going against the I'm going against the team that has to win here, Gil, and I am going against the team that is playing their backups. I'm taking the Baltimore Ravens plus the two against Pittsburgh. Gil, your guy r G three is better than whoever Pittsburgh is gonna start

at quarterback on Sunday. If it's Duck Hodges, which looks like it's going to be. I know Rudolph got put on I R Paxton lynches his back up, so it's gonna be Duck Hodges all the way through. Look, I don't care to Baltimore sitting there, Guys, it's still Baltimore Pittsburgh, and the Pittsburgh Steelers offense is horrendous. If the Steeler defense is going to have to score once in order for them to even beat the RG three lad Ravens, I don't think they're gonna be able to do that. Look.

R G three has always protected the ball in his career, regardless of his regardless of how good or bad he was. Even though he was never bad, he just was not never, never the same obviously as he was in that unbelievable rookie pain before that h c L there. But I'm going with the Ravens plus the two I'm going. I'm going against the must win team here, so I'll take Baltimore plus two at all. Thanks for cleaning up that RG three bit For a second there, I thought you

were gonna say something negative about RG three. That would be the instant That would be the instant ejection. By the way, I'll go through the Pittsburgh Steelers playoff permutation? Shall I do that real quick? Do you guys have twenty minutes us Pittsburgh clinches a playoff berth with a Pittsburgh win here against Baltimore and a Tennessee loss or tie Tennessee playing Houston week seventeen. These are late games, both the Pittsburgh and Tennessee games running concurrent in a

late window. Or if Pittsburgh ties and Tennessee loses, or if Tennessee loses in Indianapolis wins plus Oakland loses or ties, or if Tennessee loses an Indianapolis wins and Pittsburgh ties Oakland in strength of victory tiebreaker. You got all that Pittsburgh, by the way, with tye Oakland and strength of victory. If all of the following teams win Minnesota, Green Bay Kansas City, and Miami. So all of those are ways that the Steelers could get into the playoffs. The easiest way,

of course, Pittsburgh wins and Tennessee loses their ties. That's really all you have to remember there. So Baltimore the sort of contrarian pick for young Jeff taking r G three. By the way, shout out to r G three, who some people had left for dead in this league. Make it himself a super Bowl ring this year. Who knows Baltimore Jeff's number two pick, taking the two points Todd pick number two. Jeff's taking all my picks. I like Baltimore plus two. Also, I saw this, Uh, I saw

this line and I was like, oh, that's ridiculous. Um, at least Baltimore is playing with a quarterback. The Steelers have zero quarterbacks. Baltimore is playing with RG three. Who knows how good he'll be, but he can't be worse than my friends Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph. The Baltimore defense is still going to be out there. I've seen this a million times. The team who who has to win doesn't end up winning, and uh, the team that doesn't really need it ends up winning. I've seen it

too many times. Baltimore is just way too much for Pittsburgh, especially at home. They don't want to let Pittsburgh into the playoffs. Give me Baltimore plus two as well. Baltimore, who has already clinched home field advantage through the a f C playoffs, have nothing to play for here r G three at the help Man and you're right, Todd. What Todd says right there. We've seen it so many times before, and Dr Bob was great to have on the show last week. Again, teams and absolute must win situations,

which we just documented. Pittsburgh is not exactly in that situation here. What Bob was talking about teams like Oakland Oakland applies this week. They're an absolute must win situation against the team that has nothing to play for. It is a losing proposition and a big time losing proposition over time. But even a team like Pittsburgh, which for all intents and purposes, are in a must win we

see it all the time. They just lay an egg pick number two for me along those lines, I'm taking the New York Giants plus the four and a half against the Philadelphia Eagles in the Again, the late window, the afternoon window, if you will, for PM Eastern kickoff Pacific for the Eagles. The Eagles simply will win the NFC East by beating the Giants. All they got to do. Dallas, of course, will be watching it. They're playing at the

same time they're playing the Redskins. For Dallas to get the NFC East titled, they must beat the Redskins and have the Eagles lose. I think the Giants are gonna do the Cowboys of solid I actually think they win this game out right, but I'm certainly taking the four and a half points as pick number two. I think

the Giants are live here. I know they were playing a horrific Redskins defense last week and they were able to just go nuts, winning ultimately in overtime for thirty five Daniel Jones five touchdown passes against the Skins, and I know the Eagles defense is a much different animal.

But on the other side of the ball, for all this talk about Philadelphia beating Dallas, and they did do it with the Skeletal Crew, and Troy Aikman called it the greatest team win he's ever seenen which might be hyperbole, I don't know, but the Philadelphia offense is terrible, and it's really not their fault. They don't have players. Gary Ward is the guy for Carson Wentz right now. They just have a mash unit in Philadelphia. I will take the Giants plus those points. I look for an outright

upset here. And by the way, just let me list some of those Philadelphia players. Jordan Howard, Nelson, aghil Or, Lane Johnson, Darren Sprouls, Shawn Jackson, Al Shan, Jeffrey, Malik Jackson, Deshaun is supposed to show up for the playoffs if the Eagles get there. I don't think they do. Eagles only scored seventeen against Dallas last week. With all that hoopla plus Sa Kwan all of a sudden looks like say Kwan again. I'll certainly take the Giants and the

points is pick number two, pick number three Jeffrey. Okay, there's no reasoning other than the fact that my favorite football team likes to screw upt their draft position as good as any team in the history of professional sports. So I'm taking the New York Jets plus one and a half at Buffalo, mostly because a the Bills are have nothing to play for. We're not certain on who's gonna play in that game for the Bills, but at trade Avious White and Josh Allen play more than three

snaps apiece. There is something horribly wrong with with what the Bills are doing in that game. But this is solely there is no true, real rationale of this one, and I'm I'm going to assume Todd is not going to have the same pick as me on this one as well. But I'm taking the Jets plus one and

a half. So the Jets screw their draft position and move deeper into the first round and miss out on some franchise left tackle, And we're doing this whole ridiculous song and dance again in twelve months from now, the Jets plus one and a half at Buffalo to screw up their draft position. Todd number three, you know I'm gonna go back to the Miami Dolphins. Well, uh, the Miami Dolphins gave me one of the worst beats of in game betting I've ever had in my life. Class

I had the Dolphins minus three and a half. They were up sixteen with less than a minute ago. Cincinnati gets a touchdown, a two point conversion and on side kicking another touchdown on the last play. Uh, and I take a horrible beating when Miami wins by three in overtime and my three and a half goes down the train. But I will take Miami this week. Uh, sixteen point favorites New England. Uh. New England had to pull out all the stops to beat the Buffalo Bills last week.

That was really a toss up game Miami. As we've said all year, they're not as bad as they seem. Uh. Sure they could get blown out, but I could just as easily see Belichick playing at real conservative here and winning like twenty seven or something like that. So I'll take Miami with all those zillions of points. I think it's plus sixteen now, and uh, I hope I can get in under the number. Don't sell yourself short, tupped. That was a far worse beat than you're even giving

yourself credit for. Down twenty three, thirty five to twelve with five minutes left, down sixteen, Miami gave up sixteen

points in the final twenty nine seconds of regulation. So, as Jeff put it before a numbers game on Monday, you know all those times where you're on the wrong side of a bet and you try to convince yourself you have a chance where you go, well, uh, you know, if we just scored touchdown on this drive and then like we stopped them, and then we score and get the two point conversion, and then we get an onside kick and we recover that and get a touchdown another

two boy conversion, it'll be a tie game. Like you know, you go through those things sometimes it happened. That's exactly what happened with Cincinnati, and they forced over time and poor time. Had I sweat games that that I have no business losing, and r G in the book it's all mad at me because he's like, there's no way you can lose. Relax. I wasn't even sweating this game. That's how much I had thought it was a win.

I wasn't even sweating. I was like, there's just no way. Cincinnati, even after they got the onsets kick, they still had no time out from their own forty yard line with like forty seconds to go. It was unbelievable that they were able to get a touchdown there. So whatever, you know, just chalk it up to a beautiful week for me. I've had, you know, busting water heaters in the middle of the night and beautiful bad beats and all kinds

of fun. You're a joy to listen to. A joy. Uh, it's you're right, though, Like literally, I had stopped watching that score, and then all of a sudden, I get a text from my buddy Ray and he goes, oh my god, Bengals, and I'll tell you this is the

God's honest truth. I thought that something about my phone was glitchy and that I was getting a text from him on delay because what he was texting me couldn't possibly make any sense at that moment because the last I had seen Miami was winning by twenty three points. So when he said, oh my god, Bengals, I thought, oh, there must have been something that happened early in the game and on win. I'm like, let me, let me check the score. I'm like, oh my god, Bengals. You know,

like that's exactly what someone should text. Couldn't believe it, could not believe it. And then of course I don't know how you give up even on the last play there at the twenty three yard line, just line up at the goal line and don't let anybody catch the ball. They just let they just throw it. I'm ready at the goal and it is unbelievable. And also and also Gil, Yeah, the first touchdown, and I think this gets totally thrown

out because of all the chaos the first touchdown. I'm still not sure the Bengals got pass catcher boy was actually in the end zone across the plane, but it didn't. No, I know, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't like it gets thrown out because, oh who cares, They're still they still have to make the two and recover the on site kicking and score a touchdown and make another two for this to really matter. I'm still not certain

that I was a touchdown. Um, so it was really Todd suffered the worst speed I think I've ever seen. Really did. Todd brings up something else though, when he said, like, just just put all your men back Miami actually did.

When When when since Sinnet he got to the twenty five yard line, they recover the onside kick, they get to the twenty five yard line, there's four seconds left, four seconds left, they got one play and Miami actually dropped eight defenders back to the goal line, and Tyler Eiffort still goes over two of them and and catches the ball, and then of course Dalton can't find anybody in the end zone on the two point conversion and

he runs it in scrambles it to the corner. So that was you know, we talked about this on Guessing Lines, Jeff, where it's like they did drop eight back. Then there are situations like your Jets against the Steelers, and the Steelers we've seen them do this earlier in the year against the against the Dolphins, they do late first half Jedi mind tricks on the opponent. The Jets made no sense,

didn't end up mattering because they ended up winning. But they're up ten to three on the Steelers late in the first half, and Mason Rudolph's in the game at this point because they had benched Devlin Hodges the way none of the Jets were the Jets blitz they put they put their corners on an island and the first one almost was a touchdown and like it just barely didn't connect. And then the Jets were like, instead of learning their lesson on the next play, they're like, yeah,

let's do that again. The top of it. All the all the defenders have to do is tackle the receivers and it's a it's a five yard holding penalty and they have to and then Steelers have to kick the field goal. These coaches at the end of the first half don't understand that if the other teams at like, you know, further back than the ten yard line, all you have to do is is tack all the receivers.

Although in that case where the Steelers in field goal range at that point the Steelers, the Steelers would have had a forty nine yard Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure you tackle it. I don't know if I agree. The Jets corners are Arthur Mallet and Bless Austin. I mean, come on, those are those aren't real people? Jeff stopped it. I don't care if Miami had all eight guys back.

Part of having all eight guys back because they have to play defense when the ball is thrown on Todd that I mean, they just let I forget what I think it was. It wasn't if it wasn't Iford who caught the one. Yes, I mean they just left him uncovered for about three and a half seconds. I mean, you can't do that when you're all back in Pittsburgh through over the Jets over the Jets heads like I don't. By the way, Todd, did you hear Jeff and I

this morning, first segment on a numbers game. All we did was dissect B y U Hawaii from you know. I was listening to the crack part. I didn't hear the first part yet. Oh did you enjoy the crack part? Todd? This morning I was listening to I didn't. I was. I was fielding plumber calls at the same time. I Did you enjoy it? Yeah? I always, I always enjoyed crack, but it was it was it was getting I was getting distracted from all the calls from the plumber and

the water eater. Well, well, Gil, the list of Bill's favorite movies is actually still going in the studio. Last segment, sem I enjoyed it? Yeah, quite quite enjoyable, all right. Uh. In my final pick, I'm doing a Todd like pick. Todd went with Miami plus the sixteen. I'm taking the Redskins plus the ten and a half. Now, let's call it. I'm taking the Redskins plus a ten and a half. Not because I don't think the Cowboys are gonna win. I actually think the Cowboys are winning, and I think

the Eagles are losing. But it's case Keenum, y'all. It's Case Keenum. Case Keenom tried to single handedly ruin the Redskins winning the Chase Young Sweepstakes last week. Thankfully he did not, but he did everything in his power to get the Redskins a win and spoil the Redskins getting the number two pick in the draft. I, as a Redskin lifelong fan, am worried that case Keendom is gonna try to do it again. You're giving me ten and a half with Case Keenum and the Redskins, and it's

like a Ryan Fitzpatrick situation. Whatever you think about the Dolphins, whatever you think about the Redskins, they don't suck when those two guys are playing. They're not great, but they're the equivalent of like a seven and nine football team. They're perfectly credible. They don't suck at all. Ten and a half points give me the Skins, and as a Redskin fan, I'll just pray that they don't win it, because all these teams are just my goodness, the way

the Cowboys are playing down the stretch. We're talking this morning with Lombardi. All the people. I mentioned that the Cowboys under the Jason Garrett era have squandered UH the windows the talent UH in their primes, Tony Romo, Dez Bryant, Shawn Lee, Tyron Smith, Zach Laartin, Travis Frederick Jason went and to Marcus Ware, to Marco Murray, dak Zeke Amari

just goes on and on. It's terrible, But give me the redskins plus the points that will be picked number three for me happily in a week that is squirrely, might as well grab all the points you can. Not

a bad philosophy, by the way. The other betting point besides, you know, if you're in a must win situation, you must not be that good and that better should resist the temptation to just automatically bet teams that have something to play for against teams that don't buy in large, I was mentioning to crack this morning on a numbers game at Visa on Serious XM channel two oh four. This is also a week where books are looking at their season win total ledgers and their liabilities, and they

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point two team teaser of the week. So teasers last week once again? Uh, Bob and I lose because we both had Tennessee you and Jeff both win. What did you have? Todd? Giants? And who I had? Bills and giants? And Jeff would you have had? And Broncos well done? Well done, Broncos gave you a scare there, but they got back. How about the Broncos three and one with Drew Lock Interesting? The only loss in the snow in Kansas City? All right, Jeff, we start with you your

two team six point teaser of the week. All right, So we're gonna go with your Washington Redskins up to sixteen and a half as the first leg, and then Kansas City with Gil You went with Kansas City nine or eight and a half earlier. Nine, Okay, so we'll make k C at three. It doesn't matter Kansas that that feels like Kansas City is gonna be able to name their score if they If Mahomes plays the whole game. So I'll go with the Redskins sixteen and a half

and k C minus three totty. I'll go with Baltimore plus eight. Even if they lose the game, they ain't gonna get beat by eight with the team that has no quarterback. So I'll go Steelers should just line up in in um in in my wildcat the whole game. They do much better Baltimore plus eight. And then for my second one, I will I'm like, so ridiculous here, the second one will be I'm really struggling with the second one. But you know what, well, because i've been

I've been debating it the whole show. Who I want for the second part of the teaser, and I guess I'll take uh. I'll take Houston plus nine and a half, Houston plus nine and a half. I'm taking two of my three best bets and putting them together. I'm taking Kansas City taking it down to three, and normally nine is the teaser prevention mode for bookmakers because it doesn't

get you through the three. But I'm with Jeff. I just think they can name their score here against the Chargers, and I'm tying it in with the new York Football Giants. I'll take that through the seven and the ten to ten and a half again. I think the Giants are winning that game out right. I'm sprinkling on the money. Spreckle, sprinkle s Yeah. Tom C. Todd was ready to tell me I did something a foul. I'm not Mike Palm Tod, not my Paul, my fault. It doesn't look like we've

got Mike Palms picks. Wait a minute, hot off the press, we have Mike Palms picks of the week. First pick, Chiefs minus eight. No, I'm sorry, not even eight and a half. That's Chiefs minus nine. Pig number two Tennessee Titans. He says minus three. No, I'm sorry, that's minus three and a half and sens this on that one. So it's Titans minus three and a half. He did get this one right, Eagles minus four and a half. Oh,

Mike and I are opo on that one. So Chief's minus nine, Titans minus three and a half, Eagles minus four and a half, and his two teams six point teaser. Uh,

these are correct. He's taking green Bay, teasing him down to six and a half at Detroit game that green Bay needs to get a first round by at the very least, and he is teasing Chicago up to seven and a half from one and a half at Minnesota, a game that Minnesota has nothing to play for in either Well, let me just ask you this before we go, because obviously the biggest game on the board in terms of playoff implications for multiple teams is the Sunday Night game,

the final game of the football A regular season in the National Football League this year game number two fifty six San Francisco, a three point favorite with extra juice. Matter of fact, I see almost as many three and a half, but it is three in most locations, still three with extra juice on the road at Seattle. Seattle

has a running back problem. There's no Chris Carson, there's no Rashod Penny, there's no CJ process, whereas al Michael says c J pros, but there is Marshawn Lynch now and Robert durban Is even back on the roster, as we pointed out. So Seattle's got problems on defense too. Guys haven't played. Hopefully they get guys back. They're just

banged up royally. Any thoughts on that game, just because I know it's not the best bet, But any thoughts on that game, Jeff, if you're San Francisco and you're actually a real Super Bowl championship caliber team, you go there and you smoke Seattle. You didn't even mention it. Gil No Dwayne Brown, no, Dwayne Brand be the That might be the biggest killer of them all for Seattle, because that offensive line with Dwayne Brown at least became lea average to maybe a little bit above league average.

Without Dwayne Brown, it reverts to when it was really awful. I know Tom Cables in Oakland and not Seattle anymore, but it reverts to it just really just mediocre to bad offensive line. Look, Seattle was awful last week against Arizona. I know they were battered defensively, but they were really listless in that loss. As a big favorite at home to the Cardinals, I I just don't I don't see

Seattle having a manpower. I will lay with the Niners. Uh. This feels like a good in game game, obviously, as all these games can turn into so I would lean Niners. But no, obviously, no, Well we're at it. Not only did I not mentioned Dwayne Brown, I mean I didn't mention of course, guys who are on suspension like Josh Gordon al Woods and I didn't mention that Seattle didn't have Quandrie Digs, they didn't have Shaquille Griffin, they didn't have Jadeveon Clowney last game. And so it looks like

Clowney and Griffin will play. They were back on they were back at practice on Tuesday, right before Christmas. At least those two will play. Will have to check on the status of digs. But they're getting guys back on d at least that's the case. Todd. Any thoughts, I don't really have any thoughts in this game. Uh. I guess if you're watching the game and you see Seattle moving the ball, it's probably going over because I think San Francisco get there's But I don't really have any

good feel in this game. Yeah. I like the three a whole lot better than like three and a half, that's for sure. If I was forced to pre flop it, I would play San Francisco, But nothing for me at this point of course. If San Francisco wins, not only do they win the NFC West, but it's home field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs and Mike Palum and I get to cash our San Francisco to win the NFC West prop bets we made before the season. I got

plus three nine five. I think Mikey got plus three seventy. Seattle they've clinched a playoff berth. But here's the deal again with the Seahawks, and we went through these exhaustively the other day, but they all clinch the NFC West with a win, they'll clinch a first round by with a win in a green Bay loss, they'll clinch home field advantaged throughout the NFC playoffs with the number one seed with a win, a green Bay loss and a

New Orleans loss. So a little clearer now that we've cleared the Monday night game this past week between the Vikings and the Packers. And by the way, it doesn't need to be said about that, all of a sudden, the Green Bay defense, which we've been ragging on all year long, all of a sudden they're the eight five Bears. What was that like, Minnesota couldn't block them at all? We didn't even talk about that today, Jeff gil Minnesota's offensive line still is still what it was last year.

They just flipped a few pieces around, and when you take Dalvin Cook, they're a whole different team. Take them out of the equation. Yeah, yeah, And and that makes the other note that we need to say. Minnesota is locked into a sixth seed, Buffalo is locked into a fifth seed NFC and a f C, respectively. So Minnesota sixth seed NFC, Buffalo fifth seed AFC, those can't change. So neither of those teams have any thing to play

for this week. Houston, it should be pointed out, which right now are in the number four position in the a f C, could technically get to the number three position in the a f C if they win and Kansas City loses. But again one of these things, where Houston is playing late, Kansas City is playing earlier, they will already know if they have anything to play for by the time they take the field. And again with my conversation with Michael Lombardi this morning, I don't think

any of these teams really care about seating. They care about buy or no by or in or out of playoffs. But in terms of seating three or four, I think we make too much of that stuff. I really do. All right, we get out with the final two questions, then gentlemen, As always, which are the big favorites in your opinion, is the most likely to lose out right?

The choices are as follows. New Orleans thirteen point favorites at Carolina, New England's sixteen point favorites hosting the Dolphins, The Packers, who have every incentive to win here, twelve and a half or thirteen point favorites at Detroit and David Blow Kansas City nine point favorites at home against the Chargers, The Rams seven point favorites at home against Arizona, neither team playing for anything there. Dallas ten and a

half point favorites against Washington. Those are your choices, Jeff, which is the most likely in your opinion to lose outright? Most likely to lose outright is the Dallas Cowboys. I'm going with them because, as you mentioned before, Gil Case

Keenum in there instead of Dwayne Haskins. Now, Haskins was much better the last two weeks, but Keenum still significantly better, and it would be a perfect end to the clappers tenure if they blew a game like this, get the help they need in the meadowlands, and I'm los to the three were three win Redskins at home? So I could you imagine Dallas? Oh? Would it would be perfect if it happened? Would be perfect? Did that happen? It really? Yeah? And you were and you were saying today earlier you

could you imagine that happens to Oakland? To Oakland still has a shot to make the playoffs in the a f C. Could you imagine if Oakland had everything go their way, a pit loss, the Tennessee loss, in Indianapolis win, and then Oakland themselves loses, which would be the four team parlay that would need to happen. Wouldn't that be fitting for Jason Garrett? By the way, that Green Bay game against Detroit, because we haven't really covered green Bay.

They'll clinch the first round by with a win or a New Orleans loss, or a tie in a San Francisco lost, a tie in New Orleans tie, all kinds of different ways. That's for a first round by for home field advantage throughout the playoffs, they need to win in San Francisco would need to lose or tie, or they tie in San Francisco loses, and New Orleans loses or tied, but basically a win and they guarantee themselves a first round by at Detroit Todd, same question, who's

the most likely to lose? Out right, I'm gonna go with that other game that means nothing. The Rams. I know Hanley is a quarterback, probably for Arizona, but either Rams probably are disinterested, so I could see them losing. Could you imagine Todd Gurley could be a salary cap casualty man and I still don't feel like we have the whole story about him. I will say it's the Dallas Cowboys, because wouldn't I will say the same thing, wouldn't it be just like a Redskins Cowboys game with

Case keenom to end that way? So the Cowboys would be my choice as well. And then the final question, And what a week to ask this, because you could have about ten different responses to this. But if you had to play god, what a terrible thing that would be had to play aside on all of these games, but one, what would be the one above all that you would not want to play? Here? Jeff, see you later. Bears and Vikings, I had nothing to do with it

at all, period, Goodbye to see you later. That's the one. I'm picking. Vikings who have nothing to play for against the Bears, who seemingly never have anything to play for. By the way, that total is thirty six and a half. Vikings favored by one or one and a half, but Jeff wants nothing to do with that. Above all. Todd, same question the Chargers. I just can't stand the Chargers.

I can't stand Philip Rivers. I can't stand Anthony Lynn. Uh. Anthony Lynn seems to now be coaching b y U as well, so I don't want any part of that. I am going to say Cleveland Cincinnati, Cleveland Cincinnati, because I think Cincinnati. If you told me Cincinnati won that game by three touchdowns, I don't think I'd be surprised. They can't lose the first pick in the draft. They can play balls out and if you told me Cleveland crushed them by twenty one, I wouldn't be surprised. So

for me, it's Cleveland Cincinnati. Thank you, gentlemen, skeletal crew. Todd, I hope things get better for you at your apartment. Thank you for manning up and doing this nonetheless. And Jeffrey Parlay, thank you as well. Thanks to everybody listening. Good luck. Week seventeen in the National Football League next week, the return of Mike Palm, the return of guests. Maybe we'll get Lombardi in here. Maybe we'll get Joe Forton Boy in here. Mega Pod for wild Card weekend a

week from today. Good luck with all your picks this week. Thank you so much for listening that bat batt