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Beating The Book: 2019 NFL MegaPod Week 12 Preview

Nov 22, 20191 hr 5 min
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It’s the MegaPod in full effect with Host Gill Alexander and the Vegas Stats & Information's "A Numbers Game" Producer #5 and "Market Watch" host Jeff Parles, along, of course, with CircaSports VP of Operations, Mike Palm and one of the stars of Showtime's docuseries, "Action", Todd Wishnev. The crew gives thoughts on the Thursday Night Football matchup between the Indianapolis Colts and Houston Texans, then give three best bets each on the Week 12 NFL slate. Plus, teasers of the week, which big favorite is most likely to lose outright, and which game you should avoid at all costs, on Thursday's Beating The Book podcast (November 21, 2019).

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Check it down man now down Now Thursday morning, November one up Beating the Book podcast. It's Gil Alexander, it is the megapod. Very excited back in the saddle, glad to be alive. Uh. And it's always on the show. And I'll introduce them all at once because they've been so good filling in on a numbers game on Visa for me. Mike Palm, Todd, Wishnev and also a rotating guest. Today happens to be producing number five, Jeff Parlay. So hello to everybody. Mike, thank you for raining Todd in

the last three days. I'm not sure I've been successful at it, although I did make an effort well, and effort is all is all you we can really ask for. You guys were honestly, you guys were great. You were wonderful. I listened to as much of it as I can, but the reviews on Twitter seemed to be all spectacular. It's important component of Todd being rained in Gil and you you know this from experiences. His lack of show

sort of brains himself in lack of show prep. Uh. The willingness, the willingness and almost happy to use the show as a vehicle to get people to research for him. Todd, what am I missing? Look? I like crowdsourcing. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And uh, I don't think there's anybody just more show prep than me When I watch eight billion games. Mike just likes to take snarky comments at me, snarky shots at me. You know, it's unbelievable. Now the question is is will you have

a show when you come back on Monday? Because he did fourteen hours of NHL this morning. That was an interesting program my choice, But that's wonderful. You guys had Matthew Barnaby on, so that's nothing wrong. That's a great guest, right, Matthew Bonnaby. A lot of people thought it was great. Gil. You know, Todd thinks it was excessive because he doesn't know anything about the NHL and he didn't participate in

any of the three segments. But that's not true. What about my question about the five overtime game that that was that was great? If somebody posts the number on that game twenty years later, you get that on him. What about Mike Babcock not being the coach anymore? Uh? Within you talking about with that can we do anything about that number? Mike. That's fascinating listening. Okay, Todd, Well, I'm glad you guys, relationship has been repaired over these

last three days. I'm glad it's moving forward. The the Kevin Harlan like laugh that you hear is that of jeff Parlay. What's happening in Jeffrey, Gil, it's a it's a pleasure to hear you again. Uh. I will also say Todd and Mike have done a tremendous job and Jacob Broach has done a tremendous job in my place behind the glass on the numbers game to the last few days. Well, all of us will be back in the saddle sooner rather than later, which is good. Todd put Jacob in a really good light at the end

of the end of Wednesday's program. Here we go. Okay, the South Border kicker, m four Fiegal, Jacob, what do you think about that? That's not what I said those Jackson game. Okay, oh my god. We're all doing the show tomorrow together, so I appreciate that you should hear my when he finishes up the segment, Gil, you know how like, yeah, I really appreciate your you doing the

show now, because that's so smooth. How you go in and out of the commercials and you go in and out of the segments where you have to do the reads. I mean, you're just a consummate professional. Mike finishes up the second with JVT on the NBA and he goes, good hit Jonathan, just like rolls, I heard you. I will thank you for that. I heard you did end one segment with thank you? Was that correct? Well, I look, I was thrown to the wolves. I didn't know about

this whole doing it myself. You know, I have to give you a lot more credit. You and Colin Cowherd do your own show. It's it's it's fantastic. Well, thank you thoughts very nice. Maybe I appreciate it, but I appreciate you guys doing it, and thank you for doing it. Tomorrow, you guys will have to sit through this twice, so I apologize for it. So we'll act tomorrow like you're

hearing it for the first time. Maybe, but the reason that guessing lines was late on this podcast feed and the reason that I wasn't on in numbers game, I think most are aware that, um, I ruptured my achilles tenant for the second time, not not the same one. I ruptured one of them twenty three years ago. You kind of live in fear. Once one ruptures, that the other world rupture. And so finally it happened when I played Todd and Tennis. Mike Palm was there about seventeen

days ago, now actually sixteen days ago. I ruptured the achilles then, and you know, okay, I went in, I did uh a numbers game. I did the podcast with a freshly ruptured achilles. The only day I missed really was the day of surgery, and then after that came in with the you know, newly repaired achilles. And last week during the show, if you were really a keen listener, and I don't know that anybody could have figured this out, but during first segments of a numbers game, I would

start to lose my breath. And because I was using a scooter. So after this surgery, after the first one when I was a young guy, that gave me crutches and so I was, you know, going all around San Francisco. You're in your twenties, You're like, I get out of my way. I'm strong, and this time I was like, oh, I'll take the crutches, and they were like, no, you should really take this scooter, and so I was like, Okay,

I'll take the scooter. So I'm scooting all around the South Point and we just sort of chalked it up because it was only the first segment, and Mike, you even noticed it one day when you were in with me that you know, it was just, oh, it's the cardio of going up the ramp, jumping in the chair,

all this kind of stuff. So you know, it happened several times last week, and then on Friday it happened in a Miles Garrett segment late in the show after Alan Boston was on, and that was a little weird, but Parlay sort of said, hey, it was really the first segment. You talked a lot, so maybe that was it. So anyway, long story short, if that's even possible. Now, Monday of this week, I'm doing guessing lines with Chrissy, and as people know, I do a lot of the talking.

Chrissy does a lot of talking. It's basically each of us talking for an hour. And I noticed that every single segment I lost my voice, like I was gasping for air, and I would have to throw it to Parlay or to Chrissy prematurely, and if you go back to guessing lines, maybe you'll be able to hear it. But after the show, I come and I have to for the podcast, I have to record a sixty second intro, not a sixty second intro, but an intro for the show,

and then a sponsor read. And there's something about having the software in front of me where I could actually see the time. I have the time in the studio too on the radio show, but I don't really pay attention as much. But at home alone with the timer, I could sense that I could only get through thirty seconds without having to gasp for breath. And at that point that was sort of the trigger for me that something was terribly wrong. And so my brother happens to

be a doctor. I texted him and I said, hey, look, I'm short of breath. What do you think? And he said, you just had surgery, you're not as young as you used to be, and you're a fatass. So he threw that in, By the way, has nothing to do with anything, but he just wanted to take a shot at me. You could have a blood clot from your surgery that's gone to your lungs. Go to the e R immediately, So I did, and so I scooted in with my scooter to the e R very quickly after a cat scan.

And I'm losing my breath right now talking because they didn't get all of this, but you'll understand what I'm talking about. Momentarily, they recognized that I had a massive pulmonary embolism. A blood clot because of my surgery had gone up my leg in a ten day span and had lodged right at the top of my lungs where it attaches to the heart, so my heart was being pressured too. So essentially what they did is they immediately that night were like, first of all, They're like, we

gotta hand it to you. We don't see people come into the hospital on a scooter, just willy nilly on a on a with a pulmonary embolism. That said, we need to give you a thromb beck to me immediately. So they basically went into my femural vein and shot up through there to attack my blood clot, and they were able to They can't really remove it, but they were able to get about half of it, and so it saved my life. Period. I you know, you could have died. Um. Serena Williams had this inn when she

was wearing sandals in a restaurant. She stepped on glass and she needed foot surgery. She ended up having a pulmonary embolism. I don't know if people remember that, if their tennis fans. In part, they reminded me that Russell Lokung had it this offseason in the NFL, and again, pulmonary embolism left untreated could kill you. So anyway, that's the long story. That's why I haven't been there, and

I'm just happy to be alive. Dude, so well, your brother with a diagnosis over the phone, so like unbelievable. That's incredible, don't you think, Yeah, no, it's it. There's two lessons. One it's good to have a doctor in the family. That's lesson number one. But the one that's more relatable is you really have to listen to your body and for you know, the better part of a week.

You know, I was kind of like, ah, well, you know, it's the first segment only and makes sense that you know, my heart rate would be up because I'm scooting around and I'm going up ramps and you know, maybe that's it. And then finally it did get to a point where that there's the evidence right in front of you, right,

and there's no denying. I can't speak for more than thirty seconds at a time, and so I just want people to remember that when her they have these kinds of things, that they should always listen to their bodies, because you never know what could be happening to, especially in a post surgical situation. So anyway, to everybody who

wrote tremendously kind things on Twitter, I appreciated. I believe I am told I will live now, so this will go away, my loss of breath will go away, and I will be able to talk at length again, either two people's happiness or otherwise. So that's a story, gentlemen. So that's why I appreciate you all very much for doing and doing the I feel like David Letterman. Remember when David Letterman had that heart problem and he thanked all his surgeons. I just want to thank everybody at

Sunrise Hospital in Vegas. Man, it was awesome. That's the story. Well, the only thing I would say is if your body says to you, give me pizza every half an hour. You probably don't want to listen to that one. That's a little different. That's a bit of a different problem. There you go, Todd, making the near death experience about about yourself somehow. All right, Well, at Jeff Well, first though, Jeff, I have a feeling your Boddy says that too. I'm

not I'm not disagreeing with you, Todd. All right, let's start how we always start. Circus Sports. Update from Mike Palm the conciliaria over there at Circus Sports. What's the latest, Michael, Well, Gil, as you know, this is the final weekend, Final Sunday for quarter three, another hundred forty three thousand, seven hundred

and fifty on the line. We have one entry at thirteen point five, two entries at thirteen points, and five entries at twelve and a half, so eight within one game of the lead we saw in the first quarter seventeen and three one, it in the second quarter seventeen two and one one, and so I think we're gonna be right there around that seventeen seventeen and a half mark.

What will be remarkable, what will be astounding, is if for a third straight quarter, a single person wanted all by themselves, really would be and Todd you you sleft off. Yes you're not in this. I'm dead. I'm after being fifteen and one, I'm now six and one. So I'm just hoping to have all the rest of my losses this week and then win every single game in December to win the December contest. Yeah, and and it does

bear repeating one more time. The genius of the Circu million Circus Sports million is that they have the quarterlies, and so for the last five weeks of the season, we all started zero and zero. We're all still alive for a big prize of close to a hundred fifty dollars. So we're pumped about that. As you say, get get rid of all your losses right now this week. I got a teaser right last week. That's the head I

was just about to say that. You haven't said anything about how you actually hit a teaser to what did I say to you? I said, I'm gonna catch you wish nev, I'm gonna catch you on the teasers, and you laughed at me. You're not for I know you're two and nine on teasers, on four, six and one on teasers. So I could definitely be caught. Let's be clear, Stanford Long is two and eight and teasers, I'm O and one. I just want to point that out. All right,

We'll get to our teasers momentarily. Let's start with Thursday Nights, Thursday Night footballers and I we start with the Thursday night game, and it is Indian Apples at Houston, which in a you know, last week we started out with really good primetime games. This one sort of continues that the battle for the top of the a f C South winner will be the leader of the a f C South of you tie well, and they're both on top. Did this really open six somewhere? Is that true? Where

did that open six? I see a six opener? But Houston is three and a half in this game. Three and a half is the spread? Forty six? Forty six and a half Somewhere in that pocket is the total? Curious doesn't have to be a best bet, but curious of any of you have any real conviction in this game? Jeff, any thoughts here? I kind of like first half under here. GIL three is the number that MC consensus on that Houston's offensive line was exposed again last week against Baltimore.

I am a feeling they're gonna have a problem with Indies defense. Indies defense is starting to play better as we've seen over the last few weeks. Uh, Indie will still try of the ground and pound offense. I know Marlon Mack is on the shelf with the broken hand, but that's the only angle. I kind of like a slow start on a short week under first half twenty three would be the angle I would look at tonight, Mikey Kill It's not a play for me because I'm conflicted here. I don't know if t Y Hilton is

gonna go. I think that makes a tremendous difference in the Colts offense. If you look at the first game, the statistics, the yards gain very even in this game we had to Deshaun Watson turnovers. The key difference was the Colts were four for four in the red zone and the Bill O'Brien's were two for five. I look at this game both ways. I think there maybe there's a little bit of value in three and a half is the number because the look ahead before last week's

performances at Westgate with five and a half. But I'm not playing this game. Maybe an endgame opportunity if we see Helton out there. But I'm not playing the game pre flop. Yeah, I'm trying to remember what I guessed. Oh I did guess five and a half. I guess Houston five and a half. So alright, starting to make sense. I'm starting to come out of my uh my hospital

stay to Yeah, I know. I just wanted to say that this is the rematch of the game that Jeff had the under twenty three a couple of weeks ago and he like barely survived with the push. I don't know if you remember that, Jeff. That was the game that Deshaun Watson, Deshaun Watson was called in the grasp on what should have been a touchdown and I lost

because of that. Talked about that this morning on a Numbers game with with my palm about the in the grass touchdown, and I said, yes, I remember it while Jeff was freaking out because he had the under twenty three and he got a miracle push. Um. What I've said about this game on a Numbers game all week is I don't want to fat and happy. I don't want to fat and happy team against the team the Instapolis Colts come in fat and happy with a nice win.

The Houston Texans come in off an absolute destructive loss. And I do not want Indianapolis in this spot. Now. Do I want Houston? Probably not either, But I certainly do not want to take Indianapolis when I when I've got the uh, I don't want the fat and happy team. I want the game. Yeah, Houston fell behind Baltimore last week thirty four to nothing. For those who need the reminder, they came in with four wins in five games before that game, had a by even and then proceeded to

fall behind the Ravens thirty four and nothing. They only had a hundred two yards of offense in the first half, gave up four sacks to fall behind fourteen nothing to the dynamo that is Lamar Jackson. Two of ten on third downs in the game, one of four and four down. They were out game four ninety one to thirty two. They were out time of possession if you will, thirty six ninety one. They were sacked a grand total of seven times if you add in the seventh to a J. Mccarren.

But let me just ask you this before we move on from this game. How much of that game, and I know it was forty one to seven, and as I said, it was thirty four to nothing, but that non p I which which even withstood a review on DeAndre Hopkins. This is one of the big sort of nuanced debates one has on Twitter, one has with their buddies. Yes it was seven, but I'm in the camp that if that goes Houston's way, none of us know how

the rest of that game's going. Probably Baltimore still wins, but like the entire complexion of that game, in my opinion changed, and I'm curious how you guys come down on that. You know, I thought about what you're saying, Bill, because I had plus ten and a half with the Texans, and I learned during the game that Deshaun Watson had never lost a game by more than one possession or one score in his entire NFL career until that game, and I kept thinking, Wow, if we would have got

that past interference call, would everything have been different. I think it might have been a little different, but that game was such a dominant performance by Baltimore. Ultimately, I think they still get get killed. Ultimately, I think they still get beat. I just don't know. I just don't think we can say anything with certainty. I don't know. Well, Gi well, Gil alsaid, I would have put Houston up seven nothing in all likelihoods, right, So then you would

have had Baltimore chasing the game. I know it was still early, but they would have been down a touchdown. It's a completely different game potentially, So I'm I'm kind of with you, Gil. Uh, We're never gonna know. Baltimore probably still wins the game, but it sure as hell wouldn't have been a beat down that we saw. Yeah, I guess the point here is, does that then change

your handicapping if you do feel that way? Right on this particular game, sounds like nobody has any real conviction, although Jeff has a first half play, let us start with the best bets, parlay you get first shot, sir. All right, This is as Todd usually says. Gil. It's a tough week again in the National Football League, but I'm gonna start. Uh, let's let's go to East Rutherford first. My Jets take on the upstart nearly end of a f C West leading Oakland Raiders. I'm gonna go over

forty six and a half here, in this game. The Raiders had a slow offensive performance against Cincinnati. I think their offense will be able to move the ball against the Jets, who just right now we're playing cornerbacks numbers six, seven, and eight right now because of injury and just the fact that the regular corners stink, they're on their fourth and fifth backup linebackers. I feel like Oakland's gonna be able to move the ball. They're really gonna be able to.

I think Jacobs will be able to run the ball because of that Oakland offensive line. I know the Jets have been good against the run, but I think Oakland's old line will figure them out. And I think the Jets are gonna move the ball against Oakland as well. Uh Donald has played much better the last two weeks against bad defenses, and the Giants and the Redskins. Oakland is another bad defense. I think Donald plays well. Again, this feels like a game where both teams are in

are in the high twenties. Someone's winning this game thirty eight something in that category. So I like this well over that forty six and a half consensus that I'm seeing right now, over forty six and a half. The Jets eclipsing four hundred yards of offense last time for the first time in twenty games because they got to play the Washington Redskins. Nineteen I thirty was donald for touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked twice. Ryan Griffin was his big target in that game, five for one on nine

a touchdown the Raiders. They flirted with disaster with the Bengals, but they got it done eventually. Derek Carr had a great game two nine two, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked three times, but Joshua Jacobs keeps doing his thing. Twenty three carries for one twelve is fourth one yard game in the last six weeks. Max Crosby with a team rookie record for sacks. The Raiders were seven of

fifteen on third downs. Third straight win for the Raid as all at home, by the way, after a seven week stretch on the road, temporarily in a tie with the Kansas City Chiefs until the Chiefs won that game in Mexico City against the char j By the way, Todd, you're supposed to learn the Charger song. We'll get back to that place. Let's do that as a placeholder. We were giggling in the middle of your little capsule there, Jeff, I don't know if you caught. Todd chuckled, and then

I chuckled. The reason is because we get to see Mike Palm on Skype video and Mike Hiss holding a massive cross with his savior on that cross. What is the significance here? Miked become up asked with the cross in the background with the rabbit ears around it in my office, and so I thought I'd hold it up here for good. It's a very for those obviously you can't see. It's a very baroque crucifix. Last week I thought it was like some new thing where they have

rabbit ears with a cross in it. It turns out that I was right. There are actually rabbit ears behind the cross, but they're not put together. But maybe, now that we think about it, Mike, maybe you could, you know, come up with a new product of rabbit ears with the cross. It's like a way to bring Jesus in to listen to you better because you get the rabbit ears or something. I don't know, maybe we got a

product there. Stupidest idea I ever heard. God. Todd brings up a good point, though, although two thousand years old. Christianity is always evolving. Oh wait to save Todd on that one. Very nicely done, Mike with the cross in his hand with a best bet. Well, I'd like to balance. Uh. Mr Parlay, who Todd commented looked much much thinner on market Watch yesterday. Then he remembered him his overplay with an under. I like the under in the Steelers Bengals game.

You know, I don't know where the points coming from in this game. Wait, Mike, you're not going to use a hockey pick as your first pick? Done? Todd? Are you doing? Okay? Not everybody that tunes into the megapod watches a Numbers game when Gil is out. Okay, let's get that so that you're you're losing people with these references unless you explain them. All right, Steelers Bengals, Uh, I gotta tell you Gil. I was up the camp that when Mason Rudolph came into to replace Big Ben,

I thought Tomlin was really babying him. And with all these as as as Todd says pushed passes that they ran on Monday night against the Bengals the first time they played, But after watching that performance in Cleveland last week, I understand now he's not very good and uh and I know that the Bengals defense is not great, but they did go on the road and hold a very good offense the seventeen points last week um in in Oakland.

And as far as the Bengals go, as long as Dalton doesn't play, I don't see them getting getting past ten with Finley at quarterback against a very very decent Steelers defense. So I'm gonna go under thirty eight and a half. Here is my best bet. First be under thirty eight and a half. Todd confirming thirty eight and a half. Good number. Yes, yes, I like to Mike didn't try to uh, you know, give himself an extra

half a point, my prick. My first best bet. I know we didn't get it last week, but we got it the five previous weeks is once again the Miami Football Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins. Yep, I'm doing it again. And here's the reason that Cleveland Brown should not be favored by ten and a half points against anybody Cleveland again, coming off that win against the Steelers, I should say a game that they desperately tried to give to the Steelers but couldn't Baker Mayfield seventeen and thirty two for

one nine, two touchdowns, no picks, in a sack. Odell Beckham was targeted ten times, but they only got the ball to him four times for sixty yards. Eight penalties against for the Brownies UM one yards and penalties. Dolphins coming off a beat down at the hands of the Bills. I think it was. Yeah, Miami kept on in teaser position, but they were never in cover position. Ryan FITZPATRICKTT five three twenty three, no touchdowns, no pick, sacked seven times.

And the Dolphins and what was the theme last week of many teams very few yards rushing twenty three yards rushing. I get it, you fall behind, but to completely abandon the running game and to completely do nothing on the ground is this new thing in the National Football League?

I guessed you know, this is one of these interesting lines that you guess on a Monday, because I have the the reference of the previous Steelers Dolphins game in Pittsburgh, which was the most off guests of all time, where I guessed Dolphins would be seven and a half point dogs, when in fact they were fourteen and a half point dogs or four team whatever it was at the time,

which was just outlandish. I knew that a guest of seven and a half here would be short, but that's what I would have this number and Chrissie's response Chris Andrews South Point Casino Sports with director. He was like, I like your number better, but it's not only ten, it's ten and a half, and just on principle, Cleveland should not be that big of a favorite. I'm taking the Miami Dolphins based on the number here. Not gonna watch it. I don't want to have to live through it.

But Dolphins plus ten and a half is picked number one for me. I kind of agree. I kind of agree with you, Gil. I'm just a little concerned that Miami had covered all those zillion games in a row and now maybe they'll have a fallback. But how can Freddie Kitchen to be favored by kind and a half

against anybody? I mean, that's ridiculous. But anyways, you want my best bet, I assume because we've had Jeff's over and a half and Mike's under thirty eight and a half, So my best bet is going to be do you ever hear of the um saying if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I know what's coming. Tampa Bay. Come spoke your Tampa Bay Buccaneers over the total one more time, baby, I half for fifty one gil, I see uh is? I think is more than fifty one and a half.

I don't know what Mike palms waving at, but I want to just tell you why I want to take the Tampa Bay over. Tampa Bay has gone over eight thousand weeks in a row. They're the greatest over team since sliced bread. All. They don't play defense, which is great for the other team's offense. They don't they can play offense, so they can get you points on their side of the football. So it's a fantastic over team because every time somebody has the ball, there a threat

to score immediately. And on top of that, you get the beautiful um idea that old Jamis can blow up at any moment and throw a pick six for you as well. So that's why Tampa Bay is such a beautiful over. I'm not sure what their record is. I think it's like eight and two or nine and two to the over this year, but it's someone goodly record and they're not even making us hey that much. Fifty one it's not even that high Atlanta. Okay, here's Atlanta.

The worst defensive team in football beyond the Massachusetts Minutemen until the last two weeks, when all of a sudden they decided to play defense against New Orleans and whoever they played last week I doesn't come to mind immediately, but they played South Carolina and they played good on defense against Logan. So basically, which Atlanta defense is the real defense, the one that didn't play the entire season

or the one that played for two weeks. I don't know, but I'll say this, give me Tampa Bay over fifty one, thank you and thank you. He ends everything with thank you. Go on, I'm gonna do a lot of those thank you. People seem to like that. So that came down from fifty four and a half. So you're chalking that up to the recency effect of the Atlanta Falcons finding their defense? Is that what you're chalking that up to? I don't know what people are looking at. What in the hell

are they thinking? Last week the same thing against the Saints. They people bet it down. I mean, it's unbelievable. Are these people watching the games? I mean, last night again in the Toledo Buffalo game. There was. It was at the half and they were betting the second half under. I don't know what they were seeing because both teams were going up and down the field and it was so pulled in Buffalo, nobody wanted to tackle anybody. I took the over. Guess what we got there. It's ridiculous

sometimes these people. I had Buffalo in the over in that game. Pre flow that worked out. Um, the MAC is horrific, by the way, Like these teams in the MAC are so bad this year. Whoever gets into bowl games. He was mentioning this over the last night. He was talking about this. It's almost an auto play against these MAC teams. They are so bad this year. Those Tuesday Wednesday games are awful. Like you wonder what level football you're watching with that just a brief aside. By the way, Jeff,

we're back to you. I really liked them because it's hard to get tickets to the game, so I just like to watch them on TV. If you notice, the crowds are who they're outstanding, outstanding, Not a ticket remains, Jeff. Number two, I'm liking overs today this week for whatever reason, guys, and this one it may come as a shock, uh to to everyone listening and too you guys there, I'm

going over in Buffalo and Denvert thirty seven and a half. Now, I understand that both of these teams are good defensive teams. I know Denver's offense is led by Brandon Allen. I know the Bills are led by the erratic Josh Allen. But you know what else I'll say this with with Buffalo's offense, now that's singletary is healthy. The run game looks normal. John Brown has been great as a legitimate

number one wide receiver for Josh Allen. And I know Denver's corners are good, but they really got exposed last week in the second half against Minnesota. The third all I need to get over and this is is twenty is twenty. I feel that's uh, that's more than possible here. And Brandon Allen has been pretty good and his two starts for the Denver Broncos, which is a sentence I don't think any of us would have expected to be hearing at any point this year, and for regardless of

who Brandon Allen would be playing for. But I like over thirty seven and a half in Buffalo the weather is gonna be good too. It's supposed to be forty and sunny, not much wind there in Orchard Park, under ten miles an hour, so that we can get field goals that without ridiculous wind. So I like I like over thirty seven and a half in Buffalo and Denver to a f C East a f C West matchups

over for me, so fun. I appreciate the fact that you check your Doppler and check the weather forecast, Jeff, because this is a perfect example, Todd, that you would be in the middle of your rant on a game on and over and you would be like, hey, can anybody check the weather for me? Is what's that gonna be like in the middle of it? So he, Jeff did it before the show. I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear the last ten seconds. Go ahead, all right, Mike,

Mike without a cross. He has Uh decided to converge, or at least shun his religion for the moment and make another bet. As much as Uh Todd believes in Tampa Bay over, I believe been fading Dwayne Haskins. I'm gonna lay three points with the Lions on the road. Mike try again. You can move the line again, Todd. You screwed me on half a goal on Tuesday. L Gil, what's the line? It's not three in Detroit? Watch you know. And the reason that I know it's three and a

half is because Mike has jumped exactly on my number two. Bet, I'll let it. I'll let Mike go first. It's minus three and a half. But do you notice how he tries to slide that past to skill in a certain way. It brings to mind another person we always love to talk about. But he tries to slide those half points. But he tried to slide an entire half goal past me on on on a numbers game, an entire half a goal. That's a huge number five and half to

sex It's incredible. Like someone get him a respirator. You still like it at three and a half, Mike? Yeah, I do? Uh I just here's what I do, Gil. I look at the circuit number right before we go on the air, and it was three. So three and a half here, Dwayne Haskins is not an NFL quarritor. Now, it's a complete joke. The Jets are not a juggernaut of a DV They tried to keep Washington in the game last week with all their mistakes, and still Dwayne

Haskins cannot do it. He cannot read a defense. There's a very limited playbook for Washington. He just doesn't belong in the least. He's not ready. I'm not sure he'll ever be ready. Um. You know the Lions. The Lions are still gonna put up points with drisk call He's serviceable. Um, and I just I have to fade Haskins until Callahan decides where the organization decides that he's not the answer. So it's just like pictures. When we get these pictures

in baseball. We hope they don't send them down to Triple A. I hope they keep starting Dwayne Haskins every week. Well, they the three and a hook with the Lions. Well, they are going to start Dwayne Haskins Jr. Every week because that's what they said they do, and Daniel Snyder wants to be besties with him, So it's going to happen. The Lions of lost six of seven. I don't care. I don't care if it's Matthew Stafford, I don't care it's Jeff drist call. I don't care if it's Greg Landry.

I don't care if it's Gary Danielson at his current age for the Redskins worst ten games or Joey Harrington. For the Skins it's their worst ten game starts its nineteen sixty one. They were oh nine and one. Apparently that year there one in nine right now. Haskins, by the way, nineteen of thirty five last week for two touchdowns, one pick, and here's the deal. Sacked six times. Redskins could only muster two five total yards. They had eleven

penalties for sixty six yards. Did you see that video with Dwayne Haskins pleading with his offensive lineman, tell me what I need to do to help you? And the lineman just sat there and were either speechless or almost snickered. It was so uncomfortable to watch. It was just, what's that full frontal lobotomy for Clem? He calls him Clem Haskins, former watching a bullet, Former Golden Gopher coach Clem Haskins.

The Redskins had a sixteen quarter streak of not scoring a touchdown until they broke that with the Darius Guys forty five yards screen last week in the fourth quarter.

The last team we were mentioning this on guessing lines this week, the last team to go sixteen quarters without scoring a touchdown was, of all things, the two thousand Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens, who started that year five and one with Tony Banks and then they had this unbelievable drought and that's when they went to Trent Dilford and the rest is history. They won the Super Bowl.

Whereas Redskins fans today like to say, so, you're saying there's a chance Skins allowed thirty four points to the Jets, by the way, who entered that game with the worst offense in the league. And now it looks like Greg Modowski's job is in jeopardy. Is decordinator. I'm with Mike. I don't care who's playing quarterback. It's three and a half. Give me the Lions, prove me wrong, Redskins one of those bets. You've gotta be willing to lose Toddy number two. OK,

here's here's what I'm willing to do. I'm gonna pass the hat right now, and I'm gonna offer both of you to put money in the hat for me not to bet Detroit. This week, because if I bet Detroit along with you guys, here's what's gonna happens. Is going to go back to past early in the first quarter, take a Faroe just hit, be knocked out of the game, bringing in yep, that's right, a c Keenum and then Edskins go on to victory because I bet the game. So if you guys would like to protect your bet,

I would suggest buying me off from betting that game. Okay, there you go. You gotta you gotta protect your bet. No, but do you know that if I do bet? Okay, so now let me give you my second pick. That's why I'm gonna stay off this game. I happen to agree with both of you. You have to just keep betting against Haskin. He's a gift. He's a He's a Christmas gift. You gotta love it now. Um. Also, I kind of like what Jeffrey said about the over thirty

seven and a half Buffalo Denver. I think those thirty seven and a half should be reserved for really, really really cruddy offensive teams like the Bears. Buffalo and Denver are not that bad. So I kind of like what Jeffrey had to say too. But I'm gonna go with my second pick with the Sea Hattle. I mean the Philadelphia Eagles. Fly. Eagles Fly. You faked us out, all right, Philli, Yes, messed up there. The Philadelphia Eagles giving one? Is that what you have to pick them? Or one? What do

you have kind of all over the place? Right, there's a there's a couple of ones. There's actually more one and a half than anything. So we'll say one of the halfs. I'll take it at one and a half. Then I'll take the Eagles at one and a half. And here's why I like the Eagles. To me, I can't get out of my head the fact that Seattle should have lost to Cleveland on the road in a

game that Cleveland just gave away. They were up twelve late in the first half, going in for another score and Jesus Mayfield throws an interception in the back of the end zone and totally changes the game. Um, you know they barely won that Rams game. I know they've got m V P. Russell Wilson. I know he's fantastic and everything, But the Eagles to me, are a weird kind of team. They seem to play up to the level of the competition last week. They could have won

that game against New England. I mean, they played very well on defense. You couldn't really fault them there. They just couldn't get anything going on offense. But a lot of people have had trouble with the New England defense. I mean the New England. Yeah, the New England defense. So I'm not that shocked that they lost the game, but I thought they kept it close. I think it's a real tough place to play. Seattle has to go

all the way across country to play him. Now. Granted, Seattle has an excellent record, as heard on the Numbers game uh this morning, doing these these cross country games, but you know, one and a half is just such a low number. All I gotta do is have the Eagles win the game. Practically, I'll take the Eagles. How do we feel about Carson Wentz. I mean, the Eagles did not have the Shawn Jackson, they did not have al Shan, Jeffrey h they didn't have Jordan Howard. So

there's that. But man, sometimes you look up in Carson Wentz is really like some of his throws, I'm like, wow, I don't really expect that from Carson Wentz. I'm not. I'm curious where you stand on him now. Town. Uh. You know, I used to think he was like, really really good. Now I'm still thinking he's maybe just good. Um, But you know, they have had some good games. To look, they went into Buffalo, a tough place to to play offensive football, and they played really well well on the

offensive end. So I just think they're They're an incomplete team. They went into they went into Green Bay and played very well on offense. They're very jekyl and highish. But they wouldn't be the first team to have trouble against New England defense. And I don't think Seattle's defense is that good. So you know, that's why I want the Eagles. Yeah, and I still think they win the NFC East. I really do. Much of the chagrin of of Cowboys fans,

but I just think that they will be the ultimate survivor. Uh. Do we know who's playing among those guys? By the way, well, well, DeShawn Jackson season is over, Gil he was. I believe he was placed on i R earlier this week, man um, but al Jon Jeffrey it seems to be trending correctly though. Uh. He was he actually was limited in practice yesterday. Same deal with Jordan Howard. Uh. The only non participants yesterday were Lane Johnson, who's in concussion protocol, and Nelson agal

Or was a knee injury. Thank you for that, Jeff. I missed all of that while a massive pulmonary embolism was being shot out of my my lungs. The the Lane Johnson think is interesting though, right because the Eagles Patriots game, you can kind of trace that game changing on Lane Johnson's exit from that game was tending nothing Eagles. Lane Johnson went out final score in New England's seventeen Eagles ten. And we've had Lane Johnson's stats in previous years in and out of lineup, so it's not like

it's just that one game with him. So that's big. We'll see if he gets out of protocol or not. Jeff big number three. Al right, Gil, I'm going to I'm going to agree with your first pick here and take the Miami Dolphins with the ten and a hook. How is Freddie Kitchen a Freddie Kitchens coach team favored by double digits against Eddie National Football League team? That's that's the question I'll ask here. Even when they play a Bengals in a few weeks, they should not be

favored by double digits. Miami has been playing better. I know they never were in cover range last week against Buffalo, but they still were compet it if they had a two point conversion to get down eight in the fourth quarter that they didn't convert in the Buffalo went right down the field to end the end that game and

winning by sevent team. But the Dolphins have at least resembled a National Football League team now since there, since that game against Washington when they put Fitzpatrick back in in the second half and something that Mike said a few weeks ago, but he's not wrong. Um Brian Flores has has done a tremendous job down there to get that team that is has a roster that's not built to win and not built to win for a while.

Now has them playing hard, has them competitive, and there's no they should be able to lose this game by a touchdown. It wouldn't shock me if if Cleveland has dumb enough to lose this game out right. Is a ten and a half point favorite at home. So I'm with you, Gil on the Dolphins plus ten and a half for my third one this week, all right, I like it. Jeff's number three and my number one matchup, Mikey, I'm gonna make another play that's against the team and

not on a team. I'm gonna take Daniel Jones and the New York Football Giants and six points going to Soldier Field against this hapless Bears offense that lacks quarterback play, that lacks the running game, and lacks a professional field goal kicker. Uhs. At this point, I don't know. I just don't know that the Bear should really be favored over anybody other than Dwayne Haskins by six points. I mean, yes, their their defense is still amongst the top six or

seven defenses in the league. But I mean, I personally don't believe that there was some serious hip injury that Mitchell Trobinsky suffered late in the fourth quarter that left Naggy to pull him out. I don't under there wouldn't have been a need for this emotional conversation to put chase Daniel and with two and a half minutes and go and tell him keep in bound so the clock runs out. Um, it's just too much. I don't know that the Bears are gonna score much more than six points.

I know the Giants secondary is bad, but you don't have a quarterback that can take advantage of it. So just too many points. I'll take the six. I had no argument with him. Strabiskuite practice and full yesterday. He's day to day, though officially listed as day to day. My third pick was a toss up. Ultimately came down to a couple of games, one of which was Baltimore minus three against the Rams on the road on Monday night. I decided not to make that play, even though that

was the uh my first cut. I am taking the Atlanta Falcons giving four at home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. High total in this game Todd's over on the game. I think it's even higher than that. I agree with Todd on that. And whenever you have high games like these, I total score games that is, then the scores tend to be volatile. I really believe in the Falcons transformation here. On defense, they have outscored opponents here in the last two games fifty hold on fifty five to twelve, fifty

five to twelve. That was against the Saints and last week against Carolina, So they really shut down Drew Brees and remember that game was just at the time, mind boggling. And Carolina last week they were plus four in turn and overs. They have been nothing short of dominant. They have not yielded to touchdown, just four field goals in the last two weeks. And Matt Ryan does Matt Ryan things. Thirty one last week for three eleven, one touchdown, note picks,

sack three times. Calvin Ridley was his big target eight for one forty three and a touchdown. Julio is still there. And then there's Tampa Bay and here's there was a quote from Mike will Mike Evans, who, by the way, is uncoverable. Let me just say that, but Mike Evans last week after Tampa Bay's lost to the Saints, where the Saints outgained the Bucks one to eleven while building an early twenty to nothing lead, controlled the ball for twenty of the games first twenty five minutes and they

ended up losing. They were minus four in turnovers. By the way, they had four turnovers. There were minus four in turnovers against New Orleans. They only had thirty six rushing yards. Again, this weird thing last week where there was a bunch of teams, even in defeat and in victory like the Niners, who barely had any rushing yards. It was the weirdest thing mass throughout the NFL. But Mike Evans said after the game, and and this this for some reason resonated with me as just the denial

that the Bucks are in. He said, quote, it's very frustrating. We've got the players. It's never been about the players since I've been here. It's just we've been very, very inconsistent. And I just think about him saying that. I'm like, no, dude, you're not inconsistent. You just don't have winning football players. You may be, but your teammates are not. And you know the fact that they had Vernon Hargraves and they had to just get rid of him for not hustling,

Like that's a perfect example. You guys are just not a winning organization. And Bruce Arians, for all the love that he gets, I'm not sure he gets it either. In Tampa Bay, I actually believe in the Falcons transformation. I think this is more of the team they should have been at the beginning of the year than the team we were seeing early on. I will give the

four I will take the Falcons. God, well, I'm gonna do something here based on the fact that I've seen this pattern now where you get these backup quarterbacks and they're able to, like, you know, hold things together with duct tape for a week or two or three even, and then they start to fall apart, like Logan Allen and Carolina, and we've got another Alan Alan. Wait, what's the guy's name in Carol, Kyle Allen? Whatever? Don't we

haven't don't we have enough Allan's already? By the way, how did you come up with Logan of all names? I don't know how I messed up his first name. I'm sorry, but the guy Alan in in Carolina has seemed to fall from the heights of Heaven back down to Earth, and I think the same thing may happen to another Alan. I believe his name is Brandon Allen. I'm right about that. I think I think it was

Mel Allen in this case. Mellow mellow quarterback the Denver Flaccio Fangios and uh, you know, quietly, the Fangio Flaccio's have covered five out of the last six games, and I just have to say, there has to be a Fannie pack sighting in the next game because he can't cover six out of seven. Come on, Mr Fangio, Uh, you know, I think that Minnesota. Denver really went in there, was up twenty nothing at the half, and then just poorly fell Apart to Mike's Hall of Fame team, the

Minnesota Vikings. We had a little argument about the Vikings on a Numbers game this week. I contend the quarterback is still Kurt Cousins and he's not very good. I hurt his cousins anyways. Uh, Mr Cousins is not very good. Anyways. Here's the deal. Denver was up twenty to nothing against Minnesota. I feel like they really, you know, we're all in on that, and then blow the game. Uh. They haven't had really a stinker in in four weeks since they

got whashed by Kansas City. They played well at Indianapolis, they beat Cleveland, and then they played that great game in Minnesota where they almost had the upset but couldn't pull it off. I feel like they're due for a stinker and going into Buffalo with a backup quarterback named Logan mel Brandon, I don't care what his first name is, but his last name is Alan and he's from the Razorbacks. I think he might have some trouble against your Buffalo Bills.

That Bill's defense is still pretty darn good. And uh, you know, Josh Allen, he keeps getting it more and more together week after week. He's tough to he's tough to defense. You know, he beats you with his legs. He could throw the ball a little bit. Give me Buffalo Bills minus the four? Is that the correct number, gil h That is correct at his minus four, sir, Buffalo minus four? Alright, Logan Allen. By the way, a quick Google search reveals that he's a pitcher in the

Indians organization previously, well previously in the Padres organization. He might be able to, he might be able to come in for you know, a quarter, Logan Allen. Maybe Dick Allen maybe maybe more likely. The Broncos first team since to not score a fourth quarter touchdown in six straight games. They had three cracks at it with ten seconds left

against the Vikings last week. Because Mike Zimmer and all his infinite wisdom, with chaos and the Broncos having no time outs and the clock running decides, you know what, I'll call it time out and let them work and eyes so they get three shots at this. Like, I don't think enough was made of that gaff. Everyone's like, whot Detroit the exact same thing, and they're like, oh, they could have been called for pass interference? Who they could have been this? How about not calling the time

out like that? That to me was the biggest thing in that. But the Vikings dual race the twenty to nothing half time deficit touchdowns on each of their first four drives. In the second half, Kirk Cousins uh mr Wishnev was twenty nine of thirty five for three nineteen three touchdowns. Note Pixy was sacked five times. Uh Stefon Diggs was big target five or one twenty and one

in a touchdown. According to sport Radar, it was only the fourteenth time in the history of the National Football League that a twenty plus point halftime lead turned into defeat. By the way. That does not include by the way span of a hundred games including the playoffs, since it happened the last time, first time in five years, does not include well, the real last time it happened, but it wasn't. A twenty plus point halftime lead was the

Super Bowl between the Patriots and the Falcon. So these is really only describing the regular well this is really only described me specifically twenty point halftime deficits. But remember in that game, New England was down eighteen point. They were down eighteen points at the half, and then it got to to three and they came all the way back. But it gives you an indication, just so we can appreciate it one more time. How amazing that Patriots comeback

was against the Falcons. It just doesn't happen, you know. Uh So this was only fourteen such instance of this particular thing happening. And again the Vikings were held to thirty seven yards rushing. And you can say, well they were down twenty to nothing, Gil, but you still have Dalvin Cook and you still have the whole half. So I get it. You don't go to the running game as much, but to abandon it completely is a very

interesting thing. It happened all over the league last week. Alright, gentlemen, teaser of the week, everybody, before you go on to the teasers. I don't like those stats where people go, oh, they abandoned, right, you know who abandons runs and passes all the time. Yes, that's right, Billy Belloch. He doesn't care about that nonsense. He just matches his guys up against Urin's guys and he beats you. Yeah, but the other guys aren't doing what Bill Belichick is doing, so

that's a false comeback. They're not doing it the way that Belichick is doing. They're not going, oh, yes, I'm going to beat the best thing on the other team. I'm going to do this. I'm gonna do that. These other guys aren't that smart. They should Well, that's different. Time should as different. Alright, Teaser of the week. Everybody knows I'm gonna catch Todd, so everybody's waiting for my teaser. No one's waiting for Todd's. Jeff, we start with viewers.

I'm gonna go with the Dolphins and the Giants. Gil. Put put Miami up the sixteen and a half. Put the Giants up to twelve. Gil, when I'm guessing lines on Monday, what did I say to you about the Bears being as big of a favorite as they were on your guests when you guess six and a half, My word was, that's gross. I don't think that. I don't think the Bears have a chance of winning this

game by two touchdowns. So I like the Giants plus the twelve, and I I like Miami ten and a half, So why wouldn't I like them sixteen and a half. So that's what I'll go with here. Mike Palmetto, Well, despite a really tough spot for the Raiders, I'm gonna tease them up to eight and a half. I know that. It's how do you tease? They're the favorite? They're the favorite? Oh, they're the favorite. Didn't this happen last week too? Yeah? I think it did happen this week. It did happen

as well. Okay, uh, scratch debt. Okay, let me let me substitute Parley's Giants at twelve. There then, for the reasons already stated, because I gave the argument. Now, I'm gonna take the Packers and I do this Todd and tease them up to nine and a half. Nine, okay, nine? All right? I think that we uh, and everybody's haste to say the forty niners, Uh, we're better than we thought they were. We have to consider the injuries, especially on the offensive side of the ball, to a young

quarterback not having targets like Sanders and Kittle. I just think that although I hate the Packers defense, I think that the you know, this game is so big in terms of playoff implications, in terms of seeding, in terms of you know, really from being a one to a two to a five seed UH in these in these races in the NFC that San Francisco UH is not going to route the Packers in this game. I think this is a close game. I think either team can win this game. It's a one score game, so we'll

pick it up to nine. For me, it is New England and Green Bay. Green Bay, you know, look nine points against these Niners. I'm not sold on Jimmy Garoppolo. One week he looks great, another he doesn't. By the way, in games, he has moments where he looks great, and then I'm like, oh my god, they're never doing anything with this guy. But you can be nine points with Green Bay. I will take that happily. The New England thing for me, which is basically just taking it down

to a pick them really a half point. But New England for me is this is such the mismatch of coaching and as we've said many times on a numbers game. As we said many times, I'm beating the book podcast. If you could only have one NFL handicapping tool at your disposal, let it be your coach's power rankings. This is Bill Belichick against the brain trust that is Jason Garrett and Kellen Moore. I'm sorry, you're just in a tease that's just to pick him all day, every day,

New England along with the Packers Stanford. I don't know if you noticed this, but I was watching, you know what. We get to the South Point early to try to save seats for people. You know, Jeff Parls has always asked me, can you save me a seat? And then r J wants me to save him a seat, and

then Miguel wants me. It's like a million people. So I get there early to try to save seats, and I'm watching the pregame shows, you know, while I'm trying to decide last minute things if I want to do anything, and there's a you know how, like they have the feeds from all the different games. They're right, and they've got Garrett on the sidelines. He's throwing the football around like he's at the park on a Sunday afternoon and I'm thinking to myself, and he's literally doing this for like,

you know, three or four minutes. He's like throwing it like he's gonna be the starting quarterback. And I'm thinking, you know, twenty five minutes before the game, this is what you're doing. I can't see Belichick throwing the ball around. He would be like, you know, coming up with his last second offensive lineman, blocking schemes, coming up with great special teams plays or something. This guy's throwing the ball around like he's in the park. I couldn't believe it.

I was really shocked by the way. Did you see the field? Yates? Before I get off the Patriots for a second and the Cowboys? Did you see the field? Yates tweet earlier this week the active number of consecutive winning seasons for NFL team, So he basically just goes

zero to nineteen. He just scrolls it down on a tweet, and some active number of consecutive winning seasons zero Arizona, Atlanta, Carolina, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Green Bay, Jacksonville, Miami Giants, Jets, Oakland, Tampa Bay, Washington, all coming off losing seasons. How many people have one winning season currently and are trying to get to Chicago, Houston, Indianapolis and San Francisco. How many have two or have

gotten to two this year that's also a possibility. Uh, Baltimore, the Chargers, the Rams, the Vikings, the Saints, and the Eagles. All right, how many have gotten to three? By the way, we've we've just got to to There are only six teams left in the NFL, so that we haven't mentioned so far. Three Dallas and Tennessee. Dallas and Tennessee, which might surprise some people, have three consecutive winning seats. We'll have four teams left. We skipped four. Pittsburgh has had

five consecutive winning seasons, that's in jeopardy. Kansas City has had six consecutive winning seasons, Seattle has had seven consecutive winning seasons, and then you have to go all the way to nineteen. For the Patriots. It's just unbelievable. The difference between them and every other franchise in this league. Just another way to put it in context. From field eight.

So I thought that was a great tweet from him. Anyway, go ahead, that is pretty astounding, especially, I mean, they've only been able to change the footballs for the for the first fifteen of those seasons, So you know that is pretty incredible. Da've been, you know, keep the street going for the last four years. What's your teaser, Tidy, My teaser is Green Bay as well. I am with you a thousands with this Jimmy G nonsense. I think he's good, but he's a little too uh interception prone,

fumble prone. He scares the bit Jesus out of me every time he goes back to path. You know, in the the offensive line sometimes has problems and you can take some big hits. So I'm not a hundred percent I think we'll have to be considering betting against Jimmy G in the playoffs. And so give me Green Bay plus the nine. And then in the other one, I'm gonna go with Indie plus nine and a half, just because this feels like a Bill O'Brien ish game that will be tight, you know, all the way to the end,

and so I'll take the nine and a half. Alright, final two questions, Speed round, gentleman, because Mike Palm's got a roll and there's only four examples of games that have spread larger than four points this week, So it's very tight. Here are your choices. What is the biggest favorite most likely to lose? Cleveland ten and a half point favorites against Miami, New Orleans nine and a half or ten point favorites at home against Caroline. I might allied.

It might be five examples. Chicago six point favorites at home against the Giants, Pittsburgh six and a half point favorites on the road against the Cincinnati Bungles in New England six and a half point favorites at home against the Dallas Cowboys. Jeff most likely to lose outright. Of those favorites, These Chicago Bears are the most likely of that group to lose out right for all the reasons

we've already stated. They stink on offense, and as long as Daniel Jones doesn't throw a pick six in this game, the Giants are gonna have a shot at the end. So I think to win this game, so I'll go to Bears. Have we lost Mike Pom I don't know. No, we might have lost Mikey. Mikey might have bounced. He's you want me to do pick for him? Yeah, let's go do Mike Gonna go with the Vancouver Canucks likely to lose tonight. I'm just kidding. We hit the We hit the wall with Mike, so we might have had

to bounce out at the end. My pick, by well, you'll go ahead, Todd, you already started go ahead. My pick is gonna be the Pittsburgh your Picksburg Stiller's my Picksburgh Steelers have one problem. They're good on defense, but they don't have a guy who can get the ball snapped him. I believe they call that the quarterback. We don't have a quarterback. And you know, no team wants to go in sixteen in the NFL. This could be the week that Cincinnati gets off the schneid. I could

see the Pittsburgh Steelers on the road losing this game. Um, Miles Garrett now this morning claiming a racial slur from Mason Rudolph. Did you see this? Parland and I on Monday before Guessing Lines, we were talking about unless or excuse me before the show on Friday morning, after the after the game between the Browns and the Steelers the previous night, we said, unless there was you know what stated.

There is no justification for what Miles Garrett did and he should be suspended for the rest of the year, including the postseason. And that's in fact what happened. There was no mention of any rea and if they let me finish, Dodd, Todd, let me finish. So here's the thing. It wasn't stated then, right, But here we are now a week later. A if Mason Rudolph in fact did use the racial slur, let's all just get on the same page and say, I get it. But would you

really wait a week? Would you really wait a week to mention this? And if it's not the case that Mason Rudolph actually didn't say it and you're lying about it now, you should king be ashamed of yourself, Myles Garrett, you really should. I don't know how you guys come down on that. Todd. I'm sure you have something to say because you wanted to say it two minutes ago. I apologize for interrupting you, but you know the I got I got out of control there. But you know, um,

here's the thing. You can call me any racial slur that in the world, and racial slurs are terrible. You can call me anything you want. I don't think I would swing a helmet at somebody's head Okay, I don't even but all I'm saying it doesn't look too wrong with some right what I'm saying. At least in that case you might understand what I'm trying to go. You're making a good point. You're making a good point that if he says something racial, the guy might lose his

mind and go crazy. But I still think we have to have some kind of you know, control of ourselves where we don't swing a helmet at somebody's head. I mean, nothing could have killed. You could charge him for assault and battery. Legit, he could, he really could. And and then the other thing is to how late this comes out.

This feels like the late call when you're when you're you know, playing pick up basketball, and you shoot and you you wait to see if it goes in, and then you decide whether to call the foul at the end. You can't call for a racial slur seven days later. I mean, that's just not cool, right, not cool if it did not happen. By the way, my pick on this, and you guys hit on my two top choices for this, I'm gonna lean with Jeff here. I am going to

say it's the Chicago Bears. I could see a scenario where they lose that out right against the Giants largely because of that your biskuy factor. And I agree with Mike Palm there was no hip injury. To me. I think he just needed to be benched. And I think

Matt Matt Naggi finally realized that last question. If we lived in a bizarro world and we were forced to bet aside on each and every one of these football games in Week twelve in the National Football League, including to night's game Thursday Night, but you were allowed one free pass parlay, what would it be? What would you not bet at all? Let's let's I'll pass on the a f C South matchup that I'm surprised that it's not on Thursday Night for the second time this year.

And jack and that's Jacksonville at Tennessee, UH Titans off of by Jags off a bad performance against Indy Gil. I have no clue what what either of these teams truly are now that folds us back for Jacksonville and the Tennessee is really in a bizarro world where Ryan Tannehill actually has looked pretty competent the last three games. So I want absolutely nothing to do with that AFC South Battle one my pick as well, no clue, no reading.

That was the one guest on Monday where I'm going, this has to be three, right, Chrissy, because there's just nothing else you can make it, And he's like absolutely whenever that game comes up. That's usually the answer to this question, Todd, I think you guys have a good answer, but I'll throw one other one out of Carolina New Orleans. I don't know what I'm getting from Logan or Kyle Allen and Um, you know, I so, I don't really

know at this point. You know, is it the is it the Kyle Aland we saw early who seemed to be able to keep it together, or is it the Kyle Island we saw the last two weeks? You know what? Is that? All? So? I want to I don't want

any part of that Carolina game. And one other thing, the NFL could probably get a bulk rate on a therapist or a team of therapist to both talk to the entire San Diego l a Charger team along with Mitchell Troubinsky and the two both of those guys, you know, maybe it would just be Rivers and Traubinsky, Um and you could do a tremendous business on therapist because those guys need tremendous headwork. Drabinski and who Philip Rivers? Yeah, Philip Rivers? God bless, isn't he? I mean, did you know?

I mean I watched. I did not see the first half of that game because I was under but I got to watch the second half of that game from the hospital gurnie. And it was funny because we were in a recovery room and so I couldn't see anybody. I was looking straight up at a TV and everybody else in there was also in beds looking up at TV's, but everybody was watching this game. And literally on the last drive in that recovery room, people were like, oh god.

Every time Rivers did something wrong, like you could hear people moaning, They're like, oh yeah, same all Chargers. Was there any doubt in your mind that there was not going to be a good ending for the Chargers in that well? How could it be? I had plus six

and a half on the end game. I was like, of course charge will get down to even said it before the driver said they'll get inside it then and won't get it in or Todd, how about me having over twenty seven second half and having twenty two points in the third quarter, and it's that is a. That is a. I was thinking about that after the game. I was thinking if people had the over in this second half. I didn't even know you had the over

and that was just atrocious. Geez, that's horrible, Todd. If I had known that information that you had a bit, I would have shared that with everybody in the recovery room. I'd be like, don't worry, Wishnev's got it's gonna happen. It's not gonna it's not gonna happen. Everybody nurse to their injuries. All right, We've done all we can do. I'm sorry that we didn't get Mike's answer to the last two questions, but we went over time on him. But for Mike Palm, for Todd Wishneff, who is learning, Yes,

you are learning the Supercharger song. For those who have asked, Sandy go Supercharger, It's a much harder song to sing then mym it dop. Okay, okay, okay, we know you like that song. But what I'm asking for you is could you learn, And I'm really serious about this, could you learn a verse and the chorus of the Supercharger. So, okay, I will try to, but I want you to know it's really a much diffic much more difficult song to sing.

I know, but I think people if as long as people are enjoying your music, can you at least develop a repertoire. And I think as well. Now, I mean I might as well. And I think the Supercharger song and you have to have a request from my buddy E because he was a Chargers fan growing up. There's like a part where it's where they say the word sky and it's sky I I something like that, and you have to nail these little things about the song. He's so I really I I started listening to it

a little bit on YouTube. Um, it's more funk adelic. It's a much harder song to sing. But I will absolutely try my best to be able to coerce my vocal cords into being able to sing it fair enough. It's all I could ask for. Mike Palm for Todd Wish for Jeff Parlay producing number five was kind enough to step in on a short notice here on this week. Thank you everybody writing very nice things on Twitter to me really appreciate it. We'll talk to you on the

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