Episode 211: Post-Election Thoughts (Released Pre Election)

Spice  0:01  
Hello, everybody.

Salty  0:02  
Hello everybody. Welcome to the show the biggest show, most important and critically acclaimed podcast that is recorded in one of our vehicles. And today we are in the stealth van, the stealth fan. That's right, we're heading on down the road towards a cycling and fitness center to pick up our new winter exercise bike. Yay. We've had, we've had the bikes in the past, but they were of lower quality. And, you know I've had, I basically had one recumbent that I got rid of because it was a lower quality, so we're picking up a much better quality one. Now, here's a little bit of explanation. Before we get into the main point of the podcast, the we live in a very, very small town, but we only live a block and a half away from our gym, which remembers of its community gym. Very good gym, it's five years old, 10 years old, less than 10 1010 ish is less than 10. And it's very well equipped. But in the days of the COVID. It's also full of people that I don't necessarily want to be around and I don't necessarily want to be breathing around. And also, I don't like getting out in the ice, I'm not an ice person, we have a lot of eyes. So this gives me the opportunity to get in my much needed workouts without leaving the house when it's nasty out. And frankly, I need to be more diligent about them. And having us right in the house will assist me to do it. Especially when it's a high quality and comfortable machine. So that's where we go, we're going to pick that up. And tenjin 10, gentle Lee, well, that's a word I don't use every day, this kind of shoehorns, into what this podcast is about. Because we've been not doing or saying a whole lot on three bi for the last six months or so since the pandemic has hit. And there are multiple reasons for that. And I'm going to explain to you the reasons or at least some of the reasons as to why it's been very quiet a three B wine in large part. It falls into two categories, one for me, and one more for her. She is a college professor. And ever since Thanksgiving, she's had to deal with getting course online courses, classes and all the stuff that you deal with. So that it can be taught both online and in person

Spice  3:01  
since Easter of last year. So it's easier

Salty  3:03  
later this year is spring break. Yeah. Yeah, back in March, march spring break. That's what it was. I know it was a break, because the students just didn't come back from break. And they're like, Oh, hey, yeah, you need to teach your class on nine Monday and Thursday.

Spice  3:20  
Gosh, good thing. I don't have like laboratories or anything.

Salty  3:24  
Yeah, you know, hey,

this bass spectrometer should actually use mass spec with that lab. But you know, oh, you know, it's a million dollar piece of equipment. You got one of those? Those are house right? Yeah, sure. physiocrats. Got one, right.

Spice  3:39  
Maybe not.

Salty  3:41  
But yeah, so anyway. And then that was the whole learning curve of it. We didn't even have access to zoom at the time. And so it was just like, Okay, how are we going to do this. So between that Thursday, and the next Monday, we put our heads together and came up with a way she could have class Monday morning to online is since changed, but so basically, this is involved her redoing everything, all of her lectures have had to be turned into online, her tests, online, everything redone everything,

Spice  4:19  
completely. Her graphics in four different versions, because you don't know what's coming. That is one of the been one of the big stories of the pandemic, for me has been adaptation. You never know what's coming next. It's uncertain in every circumstance. So you deal with a lot of uncertainty and you deal with preparing for as many adventure activities as possible.

Salty  4:43  
And one thing that you can count on

when you are dealing with uncertainty is it cranks up the stress level to 11 because you're trying to come up with all these answers to all these questions that you know don't even really know whether you're going to need to or not. And then you'll get to where you're going to be and you can find out. Okay, we need stuff we had prepared for.

Spice  5:10  
Change it again.

Salty  5:11  
Yeah. So

Spice  5:12  
I haven't been writing for 3d. Why? Because I've been. We're spending twice as much time as usual on my paid job.

Salty  5:20  
Yeah. I mean, you know, it's, it's just one of those deals where, you know, as much as we love dealing with people and helping them with their prepping, he can't pay the bills first.

Spice  5:34  
Yeah, kind of ironic that this is the kind of situation in which I would have loved to have been more help. But I just didn't have enough left in my tank. And I have to see to my own commitments to my students first. And that brings us to the second part of the

Salty  5:53  
of the situation is why I've been I personally been backed way off. I am what is known as, so I hate politics. Okay, I just do I hate it with a passion. I wish it didn't exist. I am a what's the word I'm looking for? pie in the sky romantic, perhaps. I'm a person who believes that he human nature can be good. But I get really turned off by people lying, cheating and stealing to each other to green power. I just, it's a turn off to me. I just, it's something I'm not interested in. And I recognize it does happen. But I'm not going to be a part of it. And what really got to me, it was really put a big crimp in my creativity towards the prepping stuff is I started seeing a large percentage of people who consider the parts of the prepping community going completely off the rails doing some really stupid things to the point where I just stopped and said, Okay, I need to reevaluate what I'm doing here. You know, and I in any way encouraging these people to do these stupid things. I will say it's not even people on one side of the political issue doing the stupid thing. There's people on both sides of the political as you're doing stupid thing. really stupid things. monumentally stupid things.

That just absolutely

blows the core of what I think a prepping and prepper should do and should be. So I basically stopped and reevaluate it. I mean, you know, I've always kind of just been chill about. There's a bunch of people who consider themselves Rambo's. Okay, it's just part of the community. It's always been part of the community. They consider themselves Rambo. I mean, they're gonna take their 14 inch buck knife out into the woods and, and, you know, kill everything in sight. Be a one man wolf pack and all this kind of ridiculous nonsense. Okay, fine. And then these people again, call themselves preppers start strapping on 14,000 guns and walking around state capitals. And, you know, saying stuff about the rest of the prepping community that lumps us in with these idiots. No, I'm not gonna be part of that. Yo, and I'm not this is not a bashing one side either. Both sides of the people hear both sides. Okay. Both groups did this.

I can remember

multiple occasions you know there are people talking about going out. militia is a big and you know, if you're if you're into militia stuff, that we are not for you. Not what we're about.

Spice  9:17  
We're hoping about helping people be prepared to deal with whatever life throws in their way not start revolutions or no? Yeah.

Salty  9:30  
The other side of the really stupid things are our I see a lot of people who are preppers who get their information about their health, from politicians.

politicians who demonize

science They demonize medicine, yet they use these sciences and these medicines every day as part of their lives, you know, they're taking their high blood pressure medicine, you know, they are, you know, they're taking their, their Oh stuff that keeps you from having heartburn, I want to call it proton pump and they're taking they're, they're taking all kinds of, you know, medicine, they're going to their doctor seeing their doctor, they're getting on the helicopters and going off to the, to the best hospitals in the world when they get sick. You know, that's what they're doing. And yet they're telling people all kinds of nonsense, and people who are preppers are buying it. People who are preppers are doing dangerous stuff with their bodies, like walking around without basic protections for themselves, because they think it's a good idea. I have to stop and reevaluate. Because to me, if you're a prepper, what is your or you're somebody who believes in survival. What is your number one thing to do survive. So the best way to survive is to not do stupid, dangerous stuff. The best way to survive our trip from our home place to Columbia, Missouri, where we're going, Okay, is to not do stupid things. I am driving, but I am not drinking. I am driving, but my cell phone is sitting perfectly alone and away from me. Now, I'm not saying I never have done stupid things with my cell phone. I can't say that I haven't. But I'm not today. And I'm not planning to. I am in a vehicle where I don't legally have to wear a seatbelt. I'm in a big truck. At least this license that way in Missouri. I don't have to wear seatbelts in this vehicle because it's a truck. But I'm wearing a seatbelt. Why? Because this is just it's he wouldn't be here today, if he hadn't been in the habit of wearing seat belts and other times and places. Yes, seat belts have saved both of our lives, literally. And it's the habit of wearing a seat belt. This has saved my life. But these are just basic prepping things. Okay. The most simple, basic things we do as a prepper to keep us alive. I'm planning for this podcast to drop the day before the election. And the reason I'm doing that is because I'm going to we're going to have a whole series of podcasts and probably a couple articles. If I get time to write him about

the post election

truths as we see them. Okay. The reason we're doing it this way, is because there is no way why more, we're recording this on Halloween, October 31 2020. Street days for the election, there is no way to post information right now. Today Halloween, that won't be taken politically, because it's such a charged environment. But by the time you start hearing the first of these post political podcasts that we're doing,

politics are done. Okay, they're done.

Spice  13:34  
Oh, they'll still be a lot of yammering. There will be no point in, you will understand, there's never been any point in us trying to lie to you to make a political point. But after the election, you'll be able to accept more freely, that we've got no dog in the political hunt here that's in the past, no interest in changing anybody's political opinions. We want to talk about prepping, right because we want you to hear it without a political filter in front of it. There's no election.

Salty  14:07  
There's no advantage politically to anything that we're going to be saying. Even though we don't mean it politically. That's the filter that everybody is listening to things with. So this gets pass. Yeah, there's no advantage politically because there is no advantage politically.

Spice  14:26  
That's kind of been my refrain for the last several months when, whenever I do make any comments about the health situation or something, people try and come back at me with, oh, it's, you know, just your political mindset. And I'm like, No, don't really have either of the political mindsets you might be talking about I do this for a living,

Salty  14:48  
shall I read

Spice  14:50  
from being a professional? So yeah, I actually know a little bit about what I'm saying instead of just parroting what Some my side media sources saying about things.

Salty  15:04  
That's been very frustrating to both of us. Because we can just see the and again, I must emphasize it's across the spectrum.

Spice  15:14  
Yeah. I've been accused by people from both ends, politically motivated. The other guy's arguments and I'm like, No, you're really not.

Salty  15:26  
Okay. Now, since this is the 31st. And it is going to be the the this is gonna come out a day or two before the election. I'm not sure exactly when I'll post it. But and you want to know, just so you can base the entire from here on out, understanding? Where are we politically stand, I'm going to come out and say, I have been actively for the last four months supporting bad boy for President. That's right back boy from the weekly examiner or the weekly, daily news, weekly, daily. Bad Boy, everybody knows who bad boy is right? He's been running for president and he's talk Sasquatch, into being his vice presidential candidate. So if you were to find my personal Facebook page, you would find, you know, bad boy and Sasquatch, slapped across the top. Excuse me, I've got a bad boy. 2020 is my eye as my profile picture. So huge batboy fan. I'm really excited about the fact that if they get elected, they're going to have a PhD eight in the administration. He's design sided come in and Secretary of State and also I believe he's going to work with the FDA, especially the banana testing. Yeah, I think I think I think I heard that I may not be right on that one. So now, you know, politically where I stand.

Okay.

Gemini can add to that.

Spice  17:10  
That Sasquatch is a bit hairy for my tastes.

Salty  17:14  
So they're having, you know,

they're having problems getting as much press as they probably deserve.

Spice  17:25  
Because they're not considered to be weird enough for 2020.

Salty  17:29  
Absolutely. And the thing is when

I was disappointed when Sasquatch accepted the vice presidential nomination. And there's virtually no press about it. When he put his foot in the ring and isn't very big. But he put in the ring. Do

Spice  17:51  
you think people would notice that?

Salty  17:54  
And yes, if you think we're mocking the political system right now. Good call. That's right, because we are. I have no interest in any of that nonsense.

Spice  18:05  
No. But it doesn't put that the fact that drama is going to come into people's lives and we're going to have situations we have to deal with does not depend on who gets elected. It's going to be true no matter what way elections turn out. And we are interested in helping people thrive as best they can in whatever circumstance life brings them.

Salty  18:29  
All right, no, I want to tell quick story. And then we're gonna call us today. Here's a quick story. person we know through an activity we are involved with.

is a young

mother of several. She's a wife. She's a nurse. And not only is she just a nurse, she's a nurse who takes care of infants. I forget what they're called pediatric. She's a pediatric nurse. Yes. Okay.

Really nice person.

A very devout woman,

a very church oriented don't actually know her political outlook never asked

COVID Okay.

At work at work, taking care of sick infants in a hospital she was exposed got koban and she was one of the ones who Yeah, some some people get it a little some people get it Not at all. I mean, they get the bug but they're not sick. There's some people really start having trouble. She was really sad and have trouble with it. She was really start having trouble. And then it came to the point in time where they decided that they were going to have to ventilator So she wrote a note to everybody on her social media and it said something along the lines of, you know, hey, I'm going down on the event. Hope to see you all in a week. If I don't make it just know I loved you. Okay.

And she went on the bed, and she was on the vent for over a month.

And it destroyed her lungs.

Just absolutely ruined the ventilator and the disease. Okay. So be young and otherwise healthy person. And I'm going to just come out and say it, it's probably not very politically nice to say but also being in the healthcare industry and somebody who has them. poll that way. You know, her friends are doctors and her co workers are doctors. Well, she got on

the lung transplant list.

Spice  20:59  
She got high up on the lung transplant.

Salty  21:02  
But again, she's young, she's otherwise perfectly healthy, should know none of the other risk factors involved should not morbidly obese. She not diabetic, she was not, you know, she was a perfectly healthy, very healthy woman engaged in a very athletic hobby. But it got her down, it happens. And so as she was waiting on the list, she had to wait until she could be proven to be COVID. Free for I forget, two weeks, three weeks, three weeks, okay. Anyway, they found a set of lungs for her. Thank you donor blood shoe. Plus, the person who gave her a chance of life, gave her a chance to see her kids actually go to high school graduate, that kind of stuff. So she got the transplant. And now we're now we're a month into the transplant. She's hanging in there, hopefully as fighting blood clots, the usual post trans plant issues. And hopefully, hopefully, one day she'll get the home. The medical bills in the millions, millions, okay, she's been in this one hospital room or another putting a lot of time in intensive care because you don't have a ventilator unless your intensive care

for about three months now.

very scared husband, very scared parents.

The point of all this is

the disease did not care

what political party

she was a member of. It didn't care that she was a mother. It didn't care that she was the wife. It didn't care that she was a nurse. That's not what it does. It didn't care what one politician or another politician had to say about it. That's not what it does. The disease does one thing it replicates that's all here to do is replicate itself.

Spice  23:29  
And if it trashes you, in the meantime, don't care don't care.

Salty  23:34  
This is what's important. This is a real thing that's killing and hurting and destroying the lives of real people.

And taking up

the resources that costs us all.

And no amount of pretending.

And no amount of Yeah, but

is going to take that tracheal tube out of her out of her throat to have to leave it in there in case they have to ventilator again, quickly. No, it's it's not political. Yet people have made it political. And this is this is where this is where I just have to step back

and say as a prepper.

Is it wise for me to sit there and argue about the politics of whether this disease is this or that? Or is it wise for me to do the things that I can do to help me and mine not get this disease? Where does this make sense to spend our time and effort? To me it makes a lot more sense of time and effort to put on a dog on mask because I don't want this thing. I've got a mask around my neck right now. I don't care what your political belief is. I'm going to do my best to either both not get this thing and not give it to you if I do get it.

Because that's the moral thing to do.

me looking out for me is fine. It's morally fine. me looking out for you a perfect stranger is the moral high road. And there comes a point in time in my life and in my wife's life, where we value doing the right thing. The moral thing, and the moral thing is to do what we can to, within reason to protect the public safety. That's just that's just morality. You know, it's just a lack of selfishness. I think I think people can call me lots of things, but I don't think they can call me selfish.

Spice  26:00  
Somebody chuckled at me at gym the other day, I did go to the gym, and I was I wore my mask while I did my workout, crack of dawn, almost nobody there, I'm getting ready to leave some some other people come in. And it was a couple of older ladies because our gym reserves the early hours, you know, early morning hours not you know, between eight and 11 for older people and other people who are high risk have since the epidemic started. So I'm wearing my mask and I'm getting ready to go we're all regulars saying hi to each other. What I'm just smiles a little bit though you're being being careful a word, your mask. She was being nasty about it or anything. Like well, oh, yeah, I'm taking care of you. I'm not particularly worried about me getting this virus, I like my chances. If I do, I've got a favorable profile. But I'll be darned if I want to go in there and spread something I picked up from my students around to these sweet old ladies. That's not what I'm here for. So I'll wear the mask even though it's not terribly comfortable when you're trying to work out. Okay. But it's not that bad either. So,

Salty  27:12  
and get we can get to the thing is, I don't want to wear this dumb mask. While I'm doing my workout. I really don't want you I find it very uncomfortable. I don't like it. So we're on our way to pick up this dumb exercise. Exercise in my own house where I don't have to wear a mask. Because there's more than one way to skin a cat assuming you want to skin a cat.

Spice  27:35  
You don't have to give up living for this or any other kind of disruption in our lives. That's part of what we're about at three B why the idea is to thrive, not just to survive. So yeah, this situation has taken some adaptation. We're human beings we can do that. We'll try not everything is exactly how we'd like it. Oh, well, we're human beings, we can deal with that too. But we can still thrive. And we want to help you thrive.

Salty  28:03  
And we want to help you in every way in situations to keep in mind that we need for the dog to wag the tail and not the tail to wag to talk. I think there's a lot of tail wagging talk going on. All right. I think that that covers what we were trying to say. Um, I hope you enjoy it. You know, a lot of people are going to, since this will come up for the election. A lot of people are going to tell you to get

voted up. I don't care. Do what you

want. Vote don't vote. He will be well That's right. That's not what we're about. We're about be well

and take care of yourself.

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