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Hello, everybody.
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Hello, everybody. And welcome to the show the big show most important and critically clean podcast that is recorded in our vehicle. And today we're in the big white Silverado Street. Go the one with all the wind blowing through it because it's old and brother Windy. So just like the podcast. Not very old, but quite windy. A little tip. Did you know that the Windy City, Chicago The Windy City is not called the Windy City because the wind blows. There are a lot true story is called the Windy City. Because of the windy politicians at the time, most people don't know that. But
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it reminds me of a small town near where I grew up, whose nickname was Bull Town. And it had nothing to do with raising cattle. I'll just leave the rest of the story here. Imagination.
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All righty, then. Welcome
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to the show. The big
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show. We have a mystery episode because my lovely and talented co host of not have any idea what we're talking about today, and actually, she don't bet she knows quite a bit about what we're talking about, what the subject is at the moment. So Are you ready? I'm ready. This morning you walked out of our humble abode. Our Hubble, our nest. You walked out of it. Say is stating, Well, I better go to pick the cherry tomatoes. Okay, so you went out and picked the change because that, of course, we were gone yesterday. So you piqued your head underneath zucchini bushes.
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One must keep a close eye on zucchinis
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because they tend to go bonkers over. And I I mean, why what wasn't nearly ready to pick two days ago was a zucchini log. Today,
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as in two days ago, it was an inch and 1/2 long, and today it was more than two inches across and worth a foot log. And if I let it go until the end of the day, would have been mostly spoiled for my intended use.
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Okay, we sometimes go to former. Okay, We often go to Farmersmarkets and we often by the big, huge zucchinis that most people don't like because for a lot of uses, they don't work very well. I mean, once they reach a certain size, they get kind of out of control. They get a little woody tasting. They get a little hollow on the inside and they can't get zucchini can just get out of hand on. But for her intended uses, Big is good
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because they make better chips. Now the ones who have turned into Lincoln logs are still not what you're going for here. If the skin is thick and tough and woody and there's giving it when you squeeze it like it might start, be starting to hollow out in the middle. That's too far. At that point, you just lacquer the outside and use it to build log cabins with
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were joking, but only slightly kind of. It's big enough, but I'm not sure that is tough enough material for log cabin ing. I hate this intersection that
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it's not.
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Here comes a guy. Came a guy I didn't even see going way, too, that this is the most dangerous intersection in the state of Missouri. You he can't see you. Sadly, it's less than 10 years old. Well,
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but bigger than most people like to chop up for dinner is the right size
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right? We're hydrating
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and making skinny chips
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dinner for how about for a lot of stuff, like zucchini bread is bigger. Okay for that.
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Bigger is okay for that. But mostly you pick him a little longer or a pick up a little bit smaller than that and let him go a little bit more, right? But it's okay for zucchini bread, too. The thing is, when you make zucchini bread, there's not that much zucchini in the zucchini bread. It's got zucchini ended, of course, but it's got more flour than zucchini. And you know they're okay for the zoo Del's thing, where people use the you make zucchini noodles out
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of him. Oh, yeah,
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it's kind of not my groove because busy making trips out of him, But
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so we'll tell you I had a friend. This has been back way, way back when Who wanted to raze the garden? You know the story.
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I know the story.
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He wanted to raise a garden. And so you gotta You gotta be careful who you ask your advice from. Ask your advice for reliable people, or you can ask your advice from people who have somewhat of a twisted sense of humor. Well, he asked gardening advice from somebody who had twisted sense of humor so cleared off his garden and just really wanted to grow one or two things the first year so that he'd get an idea of what? You know what we grow in what wouldn't grow. So he planted, um, 12 tomato plants and 12 zucchini plants, and that was his old garden. And fortunately, or unfortunately, he had prepared the ground very well. It was good ground.
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That's actually unfortunate in this story. For those of you who have never grown zucchini.
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Oh, my,
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uh, I have two plants, and that's because one I like to eat a lot of it. And two, I dehydrate the daylights out of it and make quarts and quarts of chips. He'll ask me through the winter because one zucchini plant will provide more than one family's worth of zucchini. For the average reasonably avid zucchini eaters, the plants are productive. You can get him past the squash bugs the way
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we didn't have this year.
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Yeah, something killed him off bad weather or something. I don't know. Usually squash bugs get mine because I am unwilling to put pesticides on my garden.
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Yeah, we're kind of organic people,
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but I stick a couple in the ground every year because sometimes they slip by. And when they do, I don't have to buy any from the farmer's markets.
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We also get this old fellow. We'll talk about him in a bit where you get
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I. Mostly the reason I buy the big zucchinis. It's not that they're any better, for my purpose is than the smaller medium sized ones. It's that they're worse for everybody else's purposes.
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So they go cheat.
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Yes, they also the small ones for a dollar apiece. They'll sell the ones three times that big for 50 cents apiece.
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And if you catch him at the end of the farmers market, they don't want to haul him home.
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Yeah, they're like,
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What are they going away? Take him away. Yeah, give me a buck for the whole box. We're good there. Just take it
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at my place of work. There is an avid gardener, and there's liable to be boxes of Ah, please take some produce sitting out on the table, some of which is put there by me. But I don't usually grow much zucchini, so they're usually zucchini out there and other people will snaggle the little ones for dinner and I'll snag the big ones for my chips.
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So, yeah, we, uh, let's just briefly run through. We keep saying chips. Let's just briefly run through the process. I took a couple pictures of you making chips this morning. We did that before we hit the road. What is involved in making spices? Styled zucchini chips,
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if you have. Ah, good dehydrator. Very little.
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Okay. And as an aside, if you don't have a good detective, greater there's not a better time than now to start shopping for what's
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an excellent prepping tool? Not that
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you. Critical, perfect tool, critical prepping
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way. Get a lot of mileage and a lot of extremely cheap food out of it and a lot of extremely healthful food out of it.
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And a lot of long term storage food only reasonably long term story.
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I call it medium term storage,
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but still I mean, yeah, you get a year's worth of food, you get eight years with food. You just you just cycle it more often than, say, freeze dried packaged.
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Yeah, but it's much easier to prepare and enormously cheaper, too. Once you got the dehydrator, all you do is you grab your bikinis if they are large diameter, like more than owe more than an inch and 1/2 in diameter. You, Ah, drop him in half. If they're an inch and 1/2 for smaller, you just slice him as is. You're looking for slices that are about 1/4 inch thick, pretty thick slices, and then you spread them out on the dehydrator trays so they're not quite touching each other. I like to flavor him because I used these guys. I keep calling him chips because that's how I use him. I use them as scoops to pick up dips in the same way up. I would use potato chips if I didn't wasn't quite as interested. My long term o being
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now you were using cinnamon today, I noticed that's not the only spice that you use on those.
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Sometimes I put cinnamon on, um, and that's very good. If I'm gonna be dipping with Greek yogurt, dipping up Greek yogurt with them, that's tasty stuff with cinnamon. Sometimes I put chili and garlic powders on them, either homemade or bought in bulk, which is really cheap to do, too. Sometimes I put popcorn seasoning powders on them like last week's was a Parmesan garlic chips week. I made a bunch of tomato and zucchini chips with Parmesan garlic because those work really good with things like salsas and chilies and being dips. Guacamole, ah, lentil kinds of dips, all kinds of stuff.
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She'll also make some with no seizing on him, and that's for dumping into stuff to rehydrate inside of food. As mentally, it fills out the food, but it fills it out with stuff with really good nutritional value. Like spaghetti is a good you'll find Diddley's Tinley Smalley choked spaghetti. Who's a guinea in our spaghetti Often.
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I did it for a while before I told him I was doing it. I knew he'd like it better if he couldn't object. It's
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something I hate zucchini. It's just I'm not. I'm not. You know she she is hoping that the afterlife does not contain a god made out of zucchini or broccoli, because if it is that boom, it's over for you, sister.
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There are actually lots of vegetables I like better than zucchini, but they're basically free, and they're so easy and abundant
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spirit we got sure you are too. Asparagus with cats aren't catnip. Yeah, a song. It's like really progress. Not that can nasty. Is there anything more sad than to take? Ah, perfectly healthy good asparagus plants? And can it?
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I am not going to say that there aren't home canners who who could make good
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talking about commercial social
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stuff is awful.
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Yeah, I'm not talking about home canning, either. There's that's a different thing entirely. Talk about that. The you can't give the grocery store
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totally sad. Uh, you So Yeah, when I put when I draw him without any spices on him at all, what I'll do is when you're making a tomato sauce or chili or a spaghetti sauce or a lot of different kinds of sauces, you can do it with the white cream based sauces, too. Although we don't cook with those nearly as much, you smash up a handful of the dried chips. They're dry and crumbly enough. You could just punch him up in your hand until they're almost powder size, and then you just dump a handful in the sauce and stir it in. And if you like the sauce thick, you're golden. If you want the sauce a little thinner, you had a little bit of extra water because they're gonna soak up some. They don't really change the flavor.
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No, not at all. Your body really notice they're there?
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Yeah, they do have some nutrition. They definitely add some fiber. They definitely had some bulk, which adds to the satisfying nice of them. One problem a lot of prep foods have, I noticed, is on one hand, you buy him calorie dense because then they take a storage space, which makes perfect sense. But on the other hand, then you've got something which isn't very satisfying in a physical sense, because it's only a small trunk on your plate or like soups. It's mostly water. Tossing in the dehydrated vegetables can help get around both those problems. You get to eat more food, or you get to have ah, more satisfying super stew because there's more stuff in it without materially change in taste of it.
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My one thing I wanted to mention that she was talking about to get him, get him tried out enough that they're crumbly if, like most things when you dehydrate, if in doubt, go long, don't go short. Go on. If you pinned down. Make sure thing they're dry, dry, dry, short can mold. Right. Short controlled
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long. Doesn't, um, have any food quality or actually a food safety risk associated with it? It does over drawing blueberries. Makes them not very tasty. Overdrawing a couple of the things makes them not very tasty. But there isn't anything that overdrawing makes them dangerous. Under drawing can make you lose your sores.
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I'll tell you my favorite thing to dehydrate, and I'd hide around right out of the package just because I I love the taste of saltine crackers of a saltine guy. But I get into the package and half the time to me, they taste kind of like, yeah, you know, kind of I kind of like they've been
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my only soggy.
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Yeah, but you put one of those You put him in the dehydrator along when we're doing zucchini right now. But we also got some crackers in there. Actually, it was the reverse. I would head, doesn't pack crackers, some some crackers for soup later. Doors
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opened, and I've always got sick eating.
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She brought him in. I just said, Hey, I get crackers in there now. Um, when I had filled. It all happened. It's running. Crackers don't take nearly as long, but they're great, the dehydrated. Great. Because even if you have these like old crackers and doesn't have to be cracker, that could be old. Anything like corn chips, you could be hydrated and just fresh is back, too. Um,
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anything that's supposed to be dry to begin with could be freshened right, including the dehydrated vegetables and things that you're using as chips.
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It's a court
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container, and it's human. A couple days later, they'll not be crisp anymore. Just toss it back in the dehydrator for a short period of time and impressions right up
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to slow down for the Amish. We're on our way to church,
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but we are getting close to the spot in the road where we can safely pass.
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So wait carefully.
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Your aren't that many spots on this road?
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No, but this is one of this is also right with family, so
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the bikini chips are good enough that I often take them with a dip, too. Potlucks and things, and they go very well in the among the tastes of the people. I hang out with you like vegetables
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I do recommend if you taste them or take them that you do put out a description of what they are because they do look a little weird if you don't know what they look like. Another thing she mentioned earlier that we could talk about today. Um, this is something we don't have any going right. It's a moment. But she sure does. A lot of especially with the type of tomatoes that were growing this year are the tomato chips.
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Yeah, when I've got spare tomatoes. Actually, we grew a bunch of Romans this year because they are good for it.
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Yeah, we could do with
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any tomatoes, but it's harder if there big and juicy, the ones with a lot of meat and less juice are better for this project. And I knew I was gonna make a bunch of them, and I knew I was probably gonna can sum And Romans can will too.
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And Romas Yeah, they've got that really good sharp flavor, which is which is good for chips.
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Romas are also a here. Early variety,
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right? We always like to dio stuff,
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and I've tried it before just to make sure it worked you can take Roma potatoes, tomatoes that you got just at any old, um, commercial seller of small plants. You grow up when you're eating the tomatoes. You can save the seeds from and plant the seeds the next year and get reliable Roma tomatoes out of him. Ah, lot of the things you buy as plants are actually hybrid varieties which do not read true and in some cases do not breed reliably at all. And the things that are marked as heirlooms are often, ah, not as good in other ways as some of the hybrids. So they're tryingto up their sale value by marketing his heirloom. Or they've got some other problems that the hybridization bread out of the plants. But they often don't mark the Romans that way because people like Romans just for their own sake anyway. So they just call him Romans and be done. But they are true breeding heirloom variety. So you take the Romas and they're nice size, do the same thing with him. You just give him a wash. You cut him into circles that are about 1/4 of an inch thick, lay him out dry am with or without seasonings. I do most of my tomatoes without seasonings because I find how I like to eat. Those best is I eat a lot of chili in the winter, and I used those as I make a good thick chili, and I used those scoops to scoop up the chili. Instead of putting using crackers and stuff in my chili, I used the dried tomatoes with it.
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Sorry I had to try it,
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or you could meet him with other kinds of dips. They're good that would you? And they also crumble up nicely and they go into all sorts of tomato based sauces. You just They're a perfect addition to those better than canned tomatoes. In fact, in my opinion,
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now we do a lot of dehydrating. A lot of the stuff we dehydrate, frankly, is not stuff that we grow. Bananas, for example, get dehydrated. And one thing that will do with bananas is I'll, uh, watch very carefully at the grocery store. Our grocery stories, not super high traffic, first started. Sometimes they have bananas and start to go brown, and they'll put like a whole bunch of bananas in one
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paper bag,
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paper bag mark 19 8 cents. And when we do that, you know you get a lot of banana chips out of that for very little money, you just have to be very careful and make sure that it's on a night. The wife is gonna want to make banana chips if she's got, like, all kinds of work already set up, ready to go
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and it
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will be come home with Banana Kid. Or even better when I sometimes do. Is is there's a There's a store was one of these rural story that we talk about that gets in Overstock stuff. Get in overstocked strawberries from time to time and by Overstocks tried. I mean my palate and we want them by the crate and she'll come home. And these beautiful, fragrant crate full of strawberries will be sitting there. And she's like, Well, I hadn't planned to be doing that tonight, although I think she freezes those. But
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I free some of them, but we're usually tight on freezer space. Yeah, we are already there so very good frozen.
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We don't have a lot of freezer space. I mean, we've got one small Well, we actually to be fair, we have two small freezers but one of a dozen counts
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because it's full of film.
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Yeah, that's my film freezer. I'm a film photographer and I have a freezer. Just I bought it for my film. Now we do have actually some stop some food stuff in it. It's a moment,
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but not a whole lot.
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But it is my is my film freezer. Yeah, that's a little late up. I'll admit it's a little hard core.
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The bananas, theat apples, strawberries all drive very well. And the plan is the same for the for all of them. You just slice him all about 1/4 of an inch thick and spread them out and dry them until they're really dry. But with the with the strawberries, the egg slicer story. You got these a little appliances that sliced boiled eggs into ah, full set of slices at once. You said the egg in there and you squish it and you've got a sliced egg. Well, you know, you don't know how cool those guys are until you have a whole pallet of strawberries that you want to try at a time because you go through and you clean those guys and you take taps off and then you just put as many as will fit in the egg slicer at once. And you turn it upside down over your collection bowl and squish it. You sliced all those Berries, you collect the whole lot of them, lay him out on a tree, do something with the strawberry juice drinking it comes to mind and they go.
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I gotta say one thing about you'll spice. She is not a gadget person, is really not. She doesn't like gadgets I'll never forget. I bought one of these is an experiment. I paid a dollar for something ridiculously cheap thing, but was one of those Did you see how the infomercial? But I got it said the yard sale or something. The infomercial Where is what? You put a put? A. You're supposedly
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perfect cracking of the with
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every time, every time, one hand every time Now because I gotta admit it may have worked better if you buy those wimpy white store bought eggs
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with the really thin shells
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we buy. We buy industrial strength free range chicken three rage chicken eggs off the actual riel free range, often actual chicken farm that has, like, about three seconds. We're running around in the yard type, create eggs. You know,
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they say eggs for sale and have chickens running in the yard. That's about the kind of place we're talking
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about. Eventually, I hope to have my own chickens. We'll have to be home or we're
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getting closer to that.
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I want to have you know, I don't have my own chickens.
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We had chickens when I was a kid, and I like them. And since I had to do a lot of the work of taking care of them and I liked him anyway, that's a good sign.
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Um, why did you did pick up cat food? I remember. So we have. Ah, here's our aside for this podcast. We have ice outside feral cat that we've been trying to attract to stay around. So it's sorted out Mount our cat. And that is kind of like, Well, you could almost be our cat two. I think it's kind of our cat
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from you're not our cat to You're not our cat picture here all the time, aren't you?
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It's not
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our cat, but we'll put out some food because we don't like how skinny or and you're probably keeping the rabbits out of my garden too. Okay, If that means you're kind of our cat, you're kind of our cat, But I still can't get
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with a side trip to cat tearing Open our garbage to get to the tuna cans. We have thrown a side trip of that.
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Yeah, there. There's a I threw in the towel on that one. The cat was turned. I could buy a big, expensive trash can to keep the cat out of the tuna cans. Or I could just set the tuna cans in the cat bowl we now have outside and let the cat pre lick them before the trash.
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Yeah, you know, I like I'm heating. I admit I'm heating. I like the oil packed tuna. I think just has a lot better flavor. And the difference in the calories is negligible, like 10 calories for Cannes or something like that because we strain it. I mean, we drain it so but we take she'd been taking the oil could not that we eat all that tuna, but she'll take the oil and put the oil platoon oil in with the cat food and you know where you are? Just one
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happens to Nick and out there.
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But we are. We are
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We can't lick it clean, and then I throw it in the trash can. It doesn't. It doesn't tear up trash to get to it anymore.
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We set out the so far we just before we set out the bowl during the day. But we're bringing it tonight because we want to be the cat, not the raccoons. Possums? Oh,
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yeah, We would get past animals, except I think it is tough enough, cat. We might not, but I don't know. Yeah, there. The rabbit has moved out. You win a rabbit living under our shed.
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No, we don't have
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it into our garden because I have the garden severely fenced. But I used to see it hopping around the yard all the time, and I haven't seen that since. Not our cat, we call her knock, started taking up regular residents. That's why we decided she could become our cat
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if it is a she.
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Yeah, I have to use the pronoun and I'd rather be wrong.
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This is This is how perilous cat is. Its Farrell. Enough that we can't really get close enough to tell if it's a he cat or a she cat. And it's a young cat, too, So they're a little harder to tell from a distance. And frankly, I'm really not bad. Interested in finding out
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more tolerant of our of our presence. But
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it's a 10 foot tolerance. Not ah,
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yeah, which is okay. I didn't get the cat so I could have something to pet. I started feeding it because it looked hungry and it was there. And hey, it'll keep the rabbits out, and it'll probably help keep the mice from getting into the fall.
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Okay, We're pretty much done with dehydration part, but we're going on a little bit more about cats. So if you just wanted to hear that, I I traced the dehydration part. Thank you for listening, and we'll talk to the next time I'm going here. Right. Talk a little bit more about outside cats, cause we don't do inside. Guess outside cats. Hang with us. Is this cat? It looks. It's Farrell. We've had people already telling us what we should do with the feral cat is and capture it and take it to the vet and make sure that it's sterilized and all that kind of stuff for a cat I can't get with 15 20 feet of that. Yeah, that works for me. And there's no way to build a trust with the animal like July of traffic. Yeah, so we'll see how that goes. But we have a good friend of ours who's a cat whisper, and he really is a cat whisper. I mean, he is like the cat guy. He has built us a really nice
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scary guys with next tattoos.
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Yes, he had a neck tattoo. Oh, my gosh. But,
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you know,
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nice, this guy on the planet, but he's built us one of his outdoor cat boxes or cat houses, which is nice.
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Yeah, he makes a lot of big plastic totes. Then he cuts account size hole, litum ends and carefully duct tape, some shut. So they're now waterproof, except for the cat door, which has a little overhang. And you put him underneath the porch with a towel or something in them?
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Yeah, he puts a box inside and put some kind of insulation in them. And nice little missile cat house. But what's funny. Two things. First of all, people said, my cats, Pinky, It won't eat that. Well, here's your thing. Your cattle eat it. If he gets hungry enough,
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your cat has learned it. Contrarian you by not eating your food until you give it what it wants.
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That's right. You let that cat go hungry without really? I grew
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up around a lot of barn cats, and there wasn't a one of them who was willing to starve to death when you would put out anything for it that was edible.
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What way Just been buying cheap, dry cat food for this cat? Because, I mean, it's the personals on our cat. But, hey, I watch an animal star and I don't mind having an outside cat to keep the vermin now and actually kind of like it. But, you know, we're putting out just everyday that sheep cheap, decent, quality cat food. But it is cheap, and this cat just I mean, it's like I'll fit in
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when I go out in the morning, and then I go somewhere else in the yard and the backyard isn't that big. It's I'm not more than 25 feet away and I'll be picking Berries or picking tomatoes or doing whatever I'm doing and I'll come back to the fortune. The can't bowl will be half empty. I didn't manage to see the cat some of the time. Some of the times I see it and it sees me in it. It's like, Well, if you don't get too close, we're okay and I'll just keep eating.
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Mr. K. No, wait t intersection. So she's wait for two cars. In fact, O J Oh, wait for one car. One of just turned off.
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He apparently doesn't know the use of a turn signal anyway.
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Yeah, um, man missing
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cattle eat. And it's been there while I've been picking it. Just snuck e. It was waiting for me to put the food out, snuck out from wherever it was chowed on the bowl immediately and 15 minutes later, when I go back inside, it's gone again. Then it comes back again at night in the late afternoon, eats more,
spk_1: 32:28
tell you a story. A friend of mine is Well, I mean, come on, it's a small town. The fire chief and I asked him, Have you ever got called out? Get a cat out of treaties. So, yeah, it happened to me once we got we were We got a call out woman said My cats up in the tree and he asked us alone is your tree on fire? And she's like, No, my cats in the tree and he's rescued. They said, We don't do that. So what do you mean you don't know? You're the fire department? Yes. And I want to ask you a personal question. Have you ever seen a cat skeleton in a tree?
spk_0: 33:11
I used to find that a compelling argument, but I just can't anymore.
spk_1: 33:14
She thought
spk_0: 33:16
I was on a bike ride one day. It wasn't a cat skeleton and it
spk_1: 33:21
would be a tree. But beside the fact that we're completely something else suffer that
spk_0: 33:26
it was a dead raccoon on top of a telephone pole. Well,
spk_1: 33:30
that's different. That's not a tree. It is not a cat.
spk_0: 33:33
But it nevertheless, was a dead mammal up high where it had climbed and died up there and didn't come down. Probably it's I don't know if it had just chewed through the wires. I suppose if the poll was wet enough, it could have conducted to the ground and pride itself, but chewing through the insulation of the wires. But if you just chew through the insulation on the wires and you're not grounded to anything else, the current doesn't have anywhere to blow through and doesn't kill you.
spk_1: 34:10
So wait a minute you're planning on. We're about done with this pocket you're planning on leaving our listeners with the mystery of how that raccoon has died.
spk_0: 34:19
The raccoon left me with the mystery of how it had died, but there was, in fact, a quite dead raccoon up at the top of a telephone pole. That is so nobody had put it up there. It was in the middle of nowhere in a rule county along a little two lane blacktop, not a house for half a mile in any direction. There isn't anybody bored enough to go attach a raccoon to the top of a telephone pole. There just confuses.
spk_1: 34:53
Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, humans of every kind. We're going to have to leave you without immortal mystery of how on earth
spk_0: 35:05
it's possible. Look, raccoon just could not figure out how to climb down off the telephone pole, Dad? Yeah, uh, from the look. Salty is giving me. He doubts it too. You can draw your own conclusions. Hey, when you were
spk_1: 35:22
after on that like kayaking, Were you drinking drunk? Are you quite sober? Are you sure?
spk_0: 35:32
There might have been voters out there who were drinking, but I was not
spk_1: 35:35
one of them. Uh, okay. If you say so. I'll believe you. Okay. I have a salty on spice. Thank you for listening. Bye. Bye. I got it.
Episode 129: Dehydrating Garden Veggies For Snacks
Jul 24, 2018•36 min•Season 2Ep. 129
Episode description
Spice and Salty spill the beans on dehydrating garden veggies to make healthy, tasty snacks that can store in vacuum packed jars for years.
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