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Bankless

The Ultimate Guide to Crypto Finance. DeFi, NFTs, and cryptocurrencies. Level up. Go bankless.

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LIMITLESS - The Intelligence Curse: AI Makes Us All Obsolete | Luke Drago & Rudolf

Welcome to Limitless. Today we’re joined by Luke Drago and Rudolf, authors of the powerful essay series "The Intelligence Curse." Together, we explore a future where artificial general intelligence (AGI) threatens to upend the economic and social contracts that underpin modern civilization. Will AI empower us or make us obsolete? We unpack how labor-replacing AI could dismantle the very incentives that once gave rise to liberal democracies, social mobility, and human-centered innovation—and what...

May 28, 2025

Are We Headed for an Altseason Melt-up? | Michael Nadeau’s Defi Report #1

Is altseason finally here or just getting started? Michael Nadeau of the DeFi Report joins Ryan to break down the data behind a potential crypto rotation. We cover why ETH and select alts may be poised to outperform, how macro conditions are fueling risk-on sentiment, and why fundamentals—like protocol cash flows and MEV—matter more than ever. Michael also shares his current portfolio and reveals what he’s buying right now. If you’re positioning for what’s next, this is your rotation signal. Mic...

May 27, 2025

Introducing RSOV: A Better L1 Valuation Metric than REV | Jonah Weinstein

How should we value L1 tokens in crypto? Today’s guest, Jonah Weinstein of Skycatcher, introduces RSOV—“Realized Store of Value”—a new metric designed to fundamentally rethink how we evaluate Layer 1 assets like ETH, SOL, and BTC. In this episode, we explore why traditional models like DCF and REV fall short for monetary assets, how RSOV works, and why it may be a better way to understand crypto’s total addressable market. Tune in for a fresh perspective that could change how you analyze L1s for...

May 26, 2025

ROLLUP: Bitcoin Hits NEW ATH | Stablecoin Bill Advances | ETH’s ZK Miracle | Solana’s New Chain? | T

This week, Ryan and David unpack Bitcoin’s explosive run to $111K and the macro chaos driving it—specifically, the U.S. Treasury’s failed bond auction and what it signals for the dollar. They break down the Senate’s landmark stablecoin bill (and Elizabeth Warren’s meltdown), Ethereum’s ZK miracle that could 100x Layer 1 throughput, and Texas launching its own state Bitcoin reserve. Plus, why Stanley Druckenmiller’s portfolio strategy might justify going all-in on crypto—and whether alt season is...

May 23, 2025

ROUNDTABLE: The REV Debate - Real Metric or Fake News? Jon, Bread, & Andy8052

In this episode of the Bankless Podcast, hosts discuss Real Economic Value (REV). Triggered by Jon's exploration of how ETH and SOL prices correlate with REV, the team delves into REV's role as a value capture metric and demand signal for blockchain networks. We evaluate the implications for network valuations, debate the sustainability of relying on REV, and analyze competitive dynamics between Ethereum and Solana. The conversation concludes with musings on crypto investment risks and the evolv...

May 21, 20251 hr

Arthur Hayes: Money Printing & The Crypto Bet

Arthur Hayes returns to Bankless for a wide-ranging macro and crypto conversation. We cover why ETH ripped, why the Trump administration might walk away from US treasuries as the global reserve asset, and why capital controls—not tariffs—could redefine the global economic order. Arthur lays out his full thesis on how a massive shift in global liquidity is unfolding, what it means for crypto, and why he’s betting big on Bitcoin, gold, and “buying everything” as the money printers rev up again. --...

May 19, 2025

ROLLUP: ETH Pumps 50% | Tariff Deal Boosts Markets | Coinbase Data Leak | Robinhood Buys L2

📣 BANKESS x FRAX MEETUP | Permissionless 2025 https://lu.ma/uf9mmcoa ------ This week, Ryan and David break down Ethereum’s explosive 50% surge and the surprising macro catalyst behind it: a U.S.–China tariff deal that has markets ripping. They cover Coinbase’s massive customer data leak (and Brian Armstrong’s $20M bounty response), Robinhood’s stealthy Layer 2 acquisition, and the rise of meme coins funding real apps. Plus, why Arthur Hayes thinks the bull market is just beginning. ------ BANK...

May 16, 20251 hr 3 min

How ETH Wins | Ryan & David

Ryan and David reunite on Bankless Takes with a big question: What must Ethereum do to win? Ryan champions a memetic and cultural shift, calling for ETH maximalism and nationalism to reignite belief in ETH as a monetary asset. David brings a product-driven roadmap, urging Ethereum to strengthen its L1 as the economic hub of the internet. Together, they explore a vision for a unified Ethereum that can scale, coordinate, and ultimately win. This isn’t just a talk—it’s a strategy session for Ethere...

May 15, 20251 hr 19 min

Launchcoin & Believe | ETH's 50% Candle | Coinbase Listed on S&P 500 | Jon, Bread, & Andy8052

In this episode of the Bankless Roundtable, host David Hoffman is joined by crypto enthusiasts Zero X Bread Guy, John Charbonneau, and Andy8052 to discuss the recent surge in Ethereum's price, which skyrocketed nearly 50% this week. The panel analyzes the impact of the Believe app and Launchcoin on internet capital markets, Coinbase's entry into the S&P 500, and Robinhood's new Layer 2 solution. They explore the implications of these developments for investor confidence and market liquidity,...

May 14, 20251 hr 1 min

LIMITLESS: This Is Far Bigger Than The Internet Boom | Shaun Maguire

Shaun Maguire, partner at Sequoia and former physicist turned investor, joins the Limitless Podcast to explore why we’re on the verge of a technological renaissance. From AI and silicon photonics to humanoid robots and space infrastructure, Shaun makes the case that the next 20 years will make the internet boom look tame. We dive deep into why America needs 10 SpaceX-level companies, the return of hardware innovation, the energy constraints of the future, and how frontier technologies like Neura...

May 12, 2025

ROLLUP: ETH’s Pectra Upgrade | $2T Stablecoin Push | Apple’s Crypto Breakthrough | Coinbase Buys Deribit!

This week, Ryan and David unpack Ethereum’s game-changing "Pectra" upgrade, doubling Layer 2 blob space and sparking fresh debates on L1 scaling. Meanwhile, Washington sets its sights on a $2 trillion stablecoin market, Apple’s App Store monopoly cracks open to crypto, and Coinbase makes a historic acquisition of Deribit. Plus, Bitcoin breaks $100K and ETH $2k, are we officially back in bull territory? Find out on this week’s Weekly Rollup. ------ 💫 LIMITLESS | SUBSCRIBE & FOLLOW https://ww...

May 09, 20251 hr 6 min

AI Rollup: AI Robots and The $10T Arms Race

Welcome to the AI Rollup, from the Limitless Podcast. David, Ejaaz, and Josh break down the week’s most important AI headlines, from OpenAI’s $3B Windsurf acquisition and Google’s full-stack AI play, to Visa and Mastercard preparing for agentic commerce. We explore the state of robotics, major interpretability challenges, and why the race to AGI may outpace our ability to understand it. Plus: AI ASMR, glow-up GPT, and why autonomous agents still kinda suck. Stay curious, this one’s stacked. ----...

May 08, 20251 hr 21 min

Can PumpFun be Dethroned? ETH's Pectra Upgrade | Future of Bitcoin L2s | Jon, Bread, & Andy8052

In this episode of the Bankless Roundtable, hosts BreadGuy, John Charbonneau, and Andy8052 tackle pivotal issues in the crypto world. They explore the disconnect between institutional bullishness and community despair, with Bread highlighting the plight of altcoin holders amid Bitcoin's dominance. The conversation turns to a scandal involving a token loan, revealing manipulation that undermines trust in the industry. Later, they discuss the upcoming Ethereum Pectra upgrade, emphasizing its poten...

May 07, 20251 hr 21 min

A New Chapter for Ethereum | EFs Co-EDs Tomasz & Hsiao-Wei

Ethereum Foundation's new Co-Executive Directors, Tomasz Stanczak and Hsiao-Wei Wang, join Bankless to outline their vision for the future of Ethereum. We explore their backgrounds, the changing leadership at EF, and the roadmap ahead—from accelerating L1 scaling and improving UX to making Ethereum more dynamic and product-focused. This episode offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how Ethereum plans to stay resilient, decentralized, and mission-aligned in a fast-changing world. ------ 📣SPOTI...

May 05, 20251 hr 18 min

ROLLUP: ETH's Big Pivot | Tariff Recession? | Bitcoin's Political Win | Worldcoin US Launch!

This week, Ryan and David dive into crypto’s dramatic new re-prioritization (pivot?) as Ethereum is shifting rapidly, prioritizing Layer 1 scaling in a move that has sparked intense community debate. Meanwhile, macro turmoil hits crypto with a looming tariff-driven recession and signs of American capital flight shaking global markets. Bitcoin tightens its grip on Washington, cementing itself as digital gold in the eyes of the Trump administration, and Worldcoin launches a U.S. rollout amid risin...

May 02, 20251 hr 3 min

AI ROLLUP: The AI Experiment That's Been Secretly Manipulating You

This week on the AI Rollup, David, Ejaaz and Josh ride OpenAI’s latest roller-coaster. The release of o3 is making waves for its native multi-modality while 4o gets a “genius-but-sycophantic” update and a rumored social network is in the works. They unpack the Reddit mind-hack experiment, an open-sourced natural-language coding agent, a 40-point jump in AI IQ, and more before asking: is it ethically okay for AI to cheat? David: https://x.com/TrustlessState Ejaaz: https://x.com/cryptopunk7213 Jos...

May 01, 20251 hr 28 min

Is ETH Back? Memecoins Here to Stay? HYPE's HyperLiquid EVM | Jon, Bread, & Andy8052

Jon Charbonneau, Bread, and Andy8052 join David to break down Ethereum’s bold pivot back to Layer 1 and what it means for the future of crypto. They also dive into the implications of scaling the L1 over rollups, the looming death of longtail L2s, and the shifting meta around value accrual, memecoins, and onchain activity. The crew also debates ETH’s monetary identity, HyperLiquid’s EVM ambitions, and whether Ethereum can reassert itself as crypto’s dominant tech and cultural platform. Jon Charb...

Apr 30, 20251 hr 5 min

Can Story Protocol Tokenize the $70 Trillion IP Market? | Jason Zhao

Can Crypto disrupt the IP Market? In this episode, we dive deep with Jason Zhao, co-founder of Story Protocol, on how their new token launch could unlock the $70 trillion intellectual property market. We explore the bold vision of making IP liquid, programmable, and globally accessible — and how crypto-native creators, DAOs, and even major studios could reshape how stories are owned and built. This might just be crypto's most ambitious attempt at disrupting the media yet. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIU...

Apr 29, 202556 min

Ethereum’s Biggest Mistake (and How to Fix It) | Sam Kazemian

Ethereum has achieved groundbreaking technological success, but has it failed to properly define ETH the asset? In this episode, Frax founder Sam Kazemian joins us to discuss what he believes is Ethereum’s biggest mistake: confusing the ETH asset with Ethereum the technology. Sam argues that post-EIP-1559 and Proof of Stake, ETH unintentionally shifted toward a discounted cash flow (DCF) valuation model, undermining its potential as a commodity-like store of value. We explore how the Ethereum co...

Apr 28, 20251 hr 14 min

ROLLUP: RSA Returns! | ETH’s Pivot? | Bitcoin’s Decoupling | Bear or Bull?

This week, the one, the only, Ryan Sean Adams makes his return to the Weekly Rollup and crypto, after a 90-day crypto detox to find a radically changed landscape. Ryan and David break down crypto’s shifting cycle, what Ryan missed, and Bitcoin’s dramatic decoupling from equities as it earns a strategic reserve in the U.S. Treasury. Meanwhile, Ethereum faces an existential pivot as it tries to reclaim lost ground against Bitcoin and Solana. Plus, Zora sparks heated debate with “content coins” ami...

Apr 25, 20251 hr 19 min

66% of Wall Street is Already in DeFi | Paradigm’s 2025 Survey with Dan Robinson & Justin Slaughter

In this episode, we unpack Paradigm’s groundbreaking 2025 report, “TradFi Tomorrow: DeFi and the Rise of Extensible Finance,” with Paradigm’s Dan Robinson and Justin Slaughter. We explore the stunning stat that 66% of traditional financial institutions are actively engaged with DeFi—and what that really means. From tokenization and stablecoins to regulatory clarity and decentralized exchanges, this conversation dives deep into how Wall Street is already integrating with crypto. ------ 📣SPOTIFY ...

Apr 24, 202551 min

Is Ethereum Back on Track? | Jon Charbonneau & @0xBreadguy

Jon Charbonneau and Bread join David Hoffman to unpack Ethereum’s pivotal moment—facing tough choices to re-focus on its Layer 1. They break down Ethereum’s shift back toward prioritizing L1 growth, the delicate dance between Layer 1 and Layer 2 strategies, and why Ethereum must reclaim DeFi as its core strength. The conversation also explores the nuanced dynamics between Ethereum’s cultural vision and technical roadmap, how Layer 2s fit into Ethereum’s evolving ecosystem, and what this strategi...

Apr 23, 20251 hr 28 min

Ethereum’s Strategic Pivot: The Plan it Needs to Win

Ethereum Foundation researchers Dankrad Feist and Ansgar Dietrichs join David Hoffman and Michael Ippolito to discuss Ethereum’s identity crisis—and how it’s turning the ship around. They break down Ethereum’s cultural and organizational challenges, the pivot toward L1 growth, and the evolving role of the Ethereum Foundation under new leadership. The conversation covers the future of base and native rollups, L2 alignment, and why Ethereum’s unique values still matter in a competitive landscape. ...

Apr 21, 20251 hr 20 min

ROLLUP: Ethereum L1 Comeback | MegaETH Testnet | Base Token Chaos | OHM Crash | WalletConnect Token

This week, Bread joins David to unpack Ethereum’s surprising pivot back to Layer 1, as insiders push for a more pragmatic roadmap and faster block times. MegaETH’s 10ms testnet drops jaws and breaks dApps, while WalletConnect shocks the industry with a late-stage token launch. Meanwhile, Base stirs chaos with its “content coins,” OHM crashes $6B in hours, and Solana’s token wars heat up. Is Ethereum finally finding its focus — or just reacting to the noise? It’s a jam-packed Weekly Rollup you do...

Apr 18, 20251 hr 5 min

AI ROLLUP: This Changes Everything | ChatGPT's Memory Update Just Blew Our Minds

OpenAI just rocked the week with a groundbreaking memory update, sparking debate over whether “soul data” is the real moat in AI. Google fires back with its Agent‑to‑Agent protocol and a Cursor‑killer. We riff on 1,000 AI agents unleashed in Minecraft, labs turning pets into humans, and how Dolphin AI somehow beat GTA 6 to market. Buckle up as David, Ejaaz, and Josh roll through the top five stories shaping the AI‑crypto frontier and what they mean for builders, traders, and the future of intell...

Apr 17, 20251 hr 12 min

Unraveling of the Global Order? | Rana Foroohar

Donald Trump is attempting something no leader has done before—unwind the global economic order. In this episode, Financial Times columnist and CNN analyst Rana Foroohar joins us to unpack Trump’s economic strategy, the unraveling of Bretton Woods, and whether America is becoming an emerging market. From soaring bond yields to declining dollar strength, we explore what markets are signaling, how business leaders are reacting, and why this may mark the end of the neoliberal era. ------ 📣SPOTIFY ...

Apr 15, 202546 min

Stablecoin Gold Rush: A $200 Trillion Opportunity | Rob Hadick

Stablecoins are no longer a niche crypto curiosity—they're a full-blown financial revolution. In this episode, Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly, joins us to unpack the emerging stablecoin tech stack and why cross-border payments, savings, and financial infrastructure are being rebuilt from the ground up. From Circle and Tether to next-gen orchestration layers and stablecoin-native blockchains, we explore why this $200 trillion global opportunity is only 5% unlocked—and who stands to win ...

Apr 14, 20251 hr 5 min

ROLLUP: Trump Tariff Whiplash | China Trade War | Inflation Jitters | Paul Atkins New SEC Chair | MegaETH Testnet

This week, Haseeb Qureshi joins us to break down Trump’s explosive new tariffs that rocked global markets and triggered a full-blown trade war with China. Stocks whipsawed, recession odds spiked, and the world scrambled to the negotiation table — except China. Was it 3D chess or policy chaos? Plus, we explore the ripple effects on crypto markets, investor sentiment, and what this all means for the future of U.S. economic leadership. It's a jam-packed Weekly Rollup you don't want to miss. Follow ...

Apr 11, 20251 hr 4 min

AI ROLLUP: 26 Months Until AGI | Meta's New Top Model Cheated? | $20 Billion To AI Apps

Welcome to the AI Rollup, your weekly ride through the fast-paced world of artificial intelligence! This week, we’re joined by frontier tech enthusiast Josh Kale to unpack the drama around Meta’s controversial launch of Llama 4, scrutinized for potentially overstating its capabilities. We dive into “AI 2027,” a provocative roadmap predicting espionage, geopolitical turmoil, and runaway intelligence, and explore Shopify’s bold move making AI usage mandatory for employees. Plus, we cover Claude Ed...

Apr 10, 20251 hr 13 min

Etherealize: Ethereum is Open for Business | Danny Ryan & Vivek Raman

We’ve got the team behind Etherealize on the show today—Vivek Raman and Danny Ryan—to discuss their mission to onboard institutions, governments, and capital markets to Ethereum. We explore how Ethereum is “open for business” with L2 scaling, modular architecture, and a maturing regulatory landscape. The Etherealize team breaks down their dual structure—a for-profit consulting and product arm alongside a nonprofit focused on R&D and policy—to drive institutional adoption. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PR...

Apr 07, 202559 min
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