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Banking with Interest

Banking with Interest, a podcast by IntraFi, features in-depth analysis and insight into the policy changes reshaping the banking industry. With insightful interviews and previews of pending policy challenges, the podcast is an essential listen for anyone connected to the financial services industry. Banking with Interest is hosted by Rob Blackwell, an award-winning former journalist with more than two decades of experience as an expert on financial services policy. He is now Chief Content Officer and Head of External Affairs with IntraFi. The show is produced by Sam Navarro, senior principal writer at IntraFi. The podcast theme song was written and produced by Stellar Tracks. The information, views, and opinions expressed during Banking With Interest belong solely to Rob Blackwell and his guests and do not represent those of IntraFi LLC, its directors, management, or employees. Any ideas and strategies contained within the podcast are for informational purposes only and do not constitute legal or investment advice.
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Episodes

Do Regulators Want to Kill Banking-as-a-Service?

Jason Mikula, publisher of Fintech Business Weekly, talks about the ongoing fallout from the failure of fintech Synapse, and banking regulators' efforts to ensure it can't happen again. Are regulators going too far? Is this the end of banking-as-a-service?

Oct 09, 202445 minSeason 5Ep. 31

Bill Huizenga on AI, Dangers of Activist Investors & CFPB Overreach

Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., the chair of the House Financial Services oversight subcommittee, talks about his agenda if selected as GOP leader of the full panel next year, including looking deeper at artificial intelligence, regulating crypto, and fixing housing. He also talks about his focus on reining in activist investors, what he wants to see the next CFPB director tackle and the limitations of Congressional oversight.

Oct 01, 202431 minSeason 5Ep. 30

How FHLBs See the Battle Over Reform

Ryan Donovan, the head of the Council of Federal Home Loan Banks, pushes back against criticisms that the government-sponsored enterprises have strayed from their mission. He outlines what the FHLBs want as part of a reform effort by their regulator.

Sep 18, 202449 minSeason 5Ep. 28

Andy Barr on Fair Access Law for Banks, Basel III's Finale, Reg Relief and M&A Reform

Rep. Andy Barr, the chair of the House financial institutions subcommittee, discusses why he should lead Republicans on the Financial Services Committee next year. He offers a preview of his agenda, including pushing legislation that would prevent banks from denying legal businesses access to financial services and why large institutions are suddenly supporting it. He also details what changes regulators should make in new Basel III capital rules, how regulatory reform for banks could happen, an...

Sep 10, 202438 minSeason 5Ep. 27

Inside the "Summer of Small Cuts" for Banks

Jaret Seiberg, managing director of TD Cowen's Washington Research Group, discusses the many policy changes facing banks this summer, including the FDIC's brokered deposit proposal, the Fed's new FAQ on the discount window, a Texas court decision on the small business rule, and the new uncertainties the election poses for the industry.

Sep 04, 202432 minSeason 5Ep. 26

Inside the CFPB's Sprint to the Finish Line

Alex Johnson, founder of Fintech Takes, discusses the CFPB's race to complete as many regulatory initiatives – on earned wage access products, open data, privacy and more – ahead of the November election. And he talks about why banking as a service has turned into a "high-wire act without a safety net" in the wake of the Synapse bankruptcy.

Jul 31, 202450 minSeason 5Ep. 25

French Hill on Crypto Reg, Housing Reform, SVB Lessons & Bank Consolidation

Rep. French Hill, one of the leading candidates to chair the House Financial Services Committee next year, makes his case for the job, discussing how his former role as a bank CEO would help guide his agenda. He talks about why he's worked so hard on crypto and stablecoin regulation bills, his vision for housing reform, the lessons of SVB, the end of Chevron deference, and his concerns on bank consolidation.

Jul 24, 202436 minSeason 5Ep. 24

The Titanic Shift in Banking Policy Ahead

Claire Williams, Capitol Hill reporter for American Banker , and Brendan Pedersen, who covers financial services for Punchbowl News , discuss the latest on financial policy. Will Christy Romero Goldsmith be confirmed to lead the FDIC? Is Basel III Endgame dead? How could Sen. J.D. Vance as vice president impact bank policy going forward?

Jul 17, 202442 minSeason 5Ep. 23

A Looming Crisis in CRE? What Bankers Need to Know

Phil Mobley, national director of office analytics for CoStar, the leading firm when it comes to commercial real estate, talks about how the market has changed in the wake of the pandemic. He discusses the trends right now, where the market is headed, and what risk office CRE poses to banks.

Jul 09, 202444 minSeason 5Ep. 22

Inside a Reg Split on Basel and the Battle for FDIC Control

Pete Schroeder, who covers financial regulation and policy for Reuters, breaks down why federal banking agencies are split on how to finalize new capital rules and explains how policymakers are reacting to a nominee for FDIC chair.

Jun 25, 202428 minSeason 5Ep. 21

Catch Check Fraud If You Can: The Growing Issue for Banks, Consumers

Frank Abagnale Jr., an expert on check forgery and the subject and inspiration for Steven Spielberg's film "Catch Me If You Can," talks about why check fraud is so much worse in recent years despite the overall decline of use of checks. He talks about why banks are struggling to detect forgeries, how policymakers should address the issue, and why the problem is poised to become even more dire.

Jun 11, 202440 minSeason 5Ep. 20

The Coming Battle Over Zelle Fraud

Penny Crosman, executive editor of technology at American Banker, goes behind the scenes on a case of Zelle fraud that cost a consumer thousands of dollars—and what it means for a coming policy fight between the big banks and Washington over the real-time payment system.

Jun 04, 202431 minSeason 5Ep. 19

The Massive Impacts of a Whirlwind Week for Banking Policy

Andrew Ackerman, a financial services reporter for the Wall Street Journal , discusses what happens next after FDIC Chair Martin Gruenberg's surprise announcement that he will resign upon confirmation of a successor. Ackerman also details how regulators plan to dial back the Basel III Endgame proposal, and talks about the CFPB's future after the Supreme Court upheld its funding structure.

May 22, 202430 minSeason 5Ep. 18

"A Political Thunderdome": The High Stakes for FDIC at Two Hill Hearings

Brendan Pedersen, the financial services reporter for Punchbowl News, discusses the critical importance of upcoming hearings to the future of the FDIC and disturbing revelations from a recent report looking into the agency's culture. He also discusses an upcoming House vote on a crypto bill and the latest on financial privacy and stablecoin legislation.

May 14, 202443 minSeason 5Ep. 17

Rep. Lucas on HFSC Chair Bid, Bank Consolidation, Fed Independence

Rep. Frank Lucas, the longest serving Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, makes his case for why he should be the next chair, offering his views on community bank consolidation, whether the Fed should be independent, the dangers of quantum computing and how history informs his view of government agencies and programs.

May 08, 202443 minSeason 5Ep. 16

Could a Stablecoin Bill "Shatter" the Wall Between Banking and Commerce?

Hilary Allen, a law professor at American University Washington College of Law, warns that a stablecoin regulation bill could open the door to mixing banking and commerce, allowing WalMart, Amazon or Google to effectively set up their own bank without facing bank-like regulations. She also details issues with the legislation introduced to date, including failures to address critically important issues.

May 01, 202443 minSeason 5Ep. 15

The Populist Threat to Banks

John Heltman and Claire Williams, two journalists with American Banker , discuss the outlet's recent series on populism and how it impacts banks. They tackle why the banking industry is so often the target of populist politicians from both the left and the right, how populism is changing the debate on various bank policy debates now, and what comes next.

Apr 24, 202438 minSeason 5Ep. 14

Klein vs. Calabria Round 2: How to Solve the Housing Crisis

Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, debate the best way to address the housing crisis, as well as the dangers of politicizing banking regulation, whether the Fed is too worried about consensus, if the central bank is secretly working on a central bank digital currency and who should play The Sphere next.

Apr 17, 202437 minSeason 5Ep. 13

Calabria vs. Klein Round 1: Bank Rescues, Fed Playing Politics, Liquidity Fixes

Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, discuss how politics factors into the Fed's monetary policy decisions, decry the rescue of uninsured depositors last year, debate how to fix liquidity rules and weigh in on revamping the FHLBs.

Apr 10, 202440 minSeason 5Ep. 12

Steele on What's Needed After SVB, Biggest Threat to Banks, M&A Policy

Graham Steele, the former Treasury assistant secretary for financial institutions, offers a behind-the-scenes perspective on regulators' decision to rescue uninsured depositors at Silicon Valley Bank and two other regional banks. He also discusses what policy changes are still needed as a result, the greatest challenge facing the banking industry, and why he's worried about a "catastrophic" cybersecurity event.

Apr 03, 202448 minSeason 5Ep. 11

How SVB's Collapse Changed Bank Policy for Good

One year after the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, the reverberations into banking policy continue. Brian Gardner, Chief Washington Policy Strategist at investment bank Stifel, discusses how the failure impacted bank supervision and the debate over new capital and liquidity rules—and how it will remain a part of the calculus moving forward.

Mar 21, 202432 minSeason 5Ep. 10

Whip Emmer on CBDCs, "Junk" Fees, Crypto and Community Banks

House Majority Whip Tom Emmer talks about his fears for the future of small banks—and how to reverse course—and why his movement to ban the Fed from creating a CBDC has gained steam. He also tackles his predictions for the House elections this year, the CFPB's push against so-called "junk" fees and how he became one of the leading advocates for cryptocurrency in Congress.

Mar 13, 202438 minSeason 5Ep. 9

"The Most Contentious Fight in Washington Right Now"

Richard Hunt, executive chair of the Electronic Payments Coalition, talks about the battle over Capital One buying Discover, how it connects to the Durbin amendment's restrictions on debit interchange fees, and why the fight over another Durbin legislative proposal on credit cards is so heated.

Mar 06, 202436 minSeason 5Ep. 8

How Banks Can Win the Battle for Deposits

Neil Stanley, CEO of the CorePoint, offers strategies and products banks can use to attract and retain deposits in a highly competitive deposit environment.

Feb 28, 202434 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Esther George on Interest Rate Cuts, CRE, Bank Failures, and Everything in Between

The former Kansas City Fed president talks about the persistence of inflation, when the central bank is likely to lower interest rates, how worried she is about office CRE, the lessons from the failures of three regional banks last year, whether she supports a central bank digital currency, and the future of community banks.

Feb 21, 202448 minSeason 5Ep. 6

Are We Headed for Another Regional Bank Crisis?

After a prominent regional bank slashed its dividend amid unexpected losses related to office commercial real estate loans, some in the media are raising fears that another round of failures could be in the offing. Jaret Seiberg, managing director of Cowen's Washington Research Group, details what happened, how regulators are responding, and whether it's a sign of more trouble or a one-off event.

Feb 13, 202424 minSeason 5Ep. 5

Why the War Over "Junk" Fees Has Heated Up

Kate Berry, who covers the CFPB for American Banker, goes behind the scenes on the consumer agency's latest proposals to limit overdraft fees and institute new limits around nonsufficient funds transactions.

Feb 06, 202425 minSeason 5Ep. 4

The "Existential" CFPB Plan Banks Should Care About

John Pitts, head of policy for Plaid, argues a new CFPB open-data proposal could transform the financial services industry. He says bankers, many of whom are skeptical of the plan, could see significant opportunities, including a greater ability to attract new customers.

Jan 23, 202433 minSeason 5Ep. 2
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