THE BALL AND ORDER PODCAST RETURNS! Trade rumors about Donovan Mitchell, the DeAndre Ayton Saga, Kevin Durant’s winding path to somewhere else, and a confusing NBA offseason have brought Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange out of their podcast holes (if you ignore the show two weeks ago). They discuss all of those subjects plus debate which NBA teams have actually improved this offseason. You can listen to the podcast on any podcast app or watch it (in two parts) on YouTube. Ball and Order is a free new...
Jul 19, 2022•1 hr 29 min
The Atlanta Hawks and Boston Celtics came into this season with high expectations but are currently not close to reaching them. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to figure out and provide potential solutions for Trae Young’s group and Jayson Tatum’s team. They also get into Cole Anthony’s magical season so far, the actually good Washington Wizards, and the perpetually horrendous Minnesota Timberwolves. Show Outline * Atlanta Hawks (1:27-21:21) * The defense is an abomination * Did the playoffs giv...
Nov 16, 2021•52 min
It was 1997 in the NBA for a minute! The Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks were atop the Eastern Conference as they were 24 years ago. However, they have all lost games and face serious questions going forward. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange break down the good and bad for all three teams as well as project where they may end up in 2021. Subscribe to our newsletter, ballandorder.substack.com! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get acces...
Nov 05, 2021•1 hr 4 min
The Washington Wizards, Sacramento Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers and the Minnesota Timberwolves have gotten out to hot starts, but can they sustain it? Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to answer that question for all four teams. They also discuss why this Wizards team feels different (0:53), the Kings’s interesting backcourt (18:44), Ricky Rubio’s stabilizing play (33:47), and Anthony Edwards’s leadership (42:29). This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or ...
Oct 29, 2021•55 min
Gabe and Alex are back and doing an NBA podcast now instead of sports history. The NBA is also back and, after one game, we’re ready to smash that panic button for at least one team: the Los Angeles Lakers! We explain why we think the Lakers will underperform, how Russell Westbrook affects their ceiling, and how washed the rest of Lakers are. They also discuss the messy Brooklyn Nets, whether Jaylen Brown is better than Jayson Tatum and who plays for the San Antonio Spurs. *THERE WILL BE NO DISC...
Oct 21, 2021•54 min
Gabe and Alex are back and doing an NBA podcast now instead of sports history. The NBA is also back and, after one game, we’re ready to smash that panic button for at least one team: the Los Angeles Lakers! We explain why we think the Lakers will underperform, how Russell Westbrook affects their ceiling, and how washed the rest of Lakers are. They also discuss the Brooklyn Nets, Chris Duarte, Jaylen Brown and the San Antonio Spurs. Show Outline * Who is hitting the panic button * Los Angeles Lak...
Oct 21, 2021•54 min
The history of the NFL Draft is litterred with examples of NFL scouts simply not watching college football including the Chicago Bears taking Mitch Tribusky over Patrick Mahomes, Philip Buchanon over Ed Reed, Christian Hackenberg over Dak Prescott. Zach Wilson, Mac Jones or Trey Jones going ahead of Justin Fields might join that list. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the 2021 NFL draft and how NFL teams are failing in their evaluation of top talent. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/p...
Apr 28, 2021•49 min
The history of the NFL Draft is litterred with examples of NFL scouts simply not watching college football including the Chicago Bears taking Mitch Tribusky over Patrick Mahomes, Philip Buchanon over Ed Reed, Christian Hackenberg over Dak Prescott. Zach Wilson, Mac Jones or Trey Jones going ahead of Justin Fields might join that list. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the 2021 NFL draft and how NFL teams are failing in their evaluation of top talent. This is a public episode. If you would li...
Apr 28, 2021
The NBA Trade Deadline is on Thursday and we are making trades that you have never thought of. Gabe and Alex play a game they invented where they spin the wheel, get two random NBA teams, and agree to a reasonable trade between the teams. The Utah Jazz, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers, Charlotte Hornets, Orlando Magic, Sacramento Kings, LA Clippers, and Memphis Grizzlies all make moves with the hosts acting as their general managers. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and Califo...
Mar 23, 2021•55 min
John Gasaway of ESPN's Bubble Watch joins Gabe to talk about his new book: Miracles on the Hardwood . The book talks about the concept of "Catholic College Basketball." In it, John details how Catholic schools have impacted the world of college basketball and its most legendary moments. We talked about John Thompson and Georgetown, Hank Gathers and Gonzaga's amazing run in 2021 as we head into March Madness. You can buy the book here: https://www.twelvebooks.com/titles/john-gasaway/miracles-on-t...
Mar 16, 2021•53 min
In February 2016, Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors had the best record ever after 57 games (52-5) and were on their way to the best regular season in NBA history. Then, they ran into a Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and the Oklahoma City Thunder. The teams played one of the best regular season games ever that ended with Curry hitting the signature shot of his career. Gabe and Alex breakdown the ridiculous end of the game and what it meant for the NBA. Follow us on twitter and tik tok: ...
Mar 03, 2021•1 hr 12 min
With the sports card collecting blowing up, Gabe spoke with Panini America’s VP of Marketing Jason Howarth about all things trading cards. They talked about how they collected sports cards as kids, the business of trading cards, the new WNBA Prizm collection including Sabrina Ionescu's rookie card, NBA Top Shot, blockchain collecting, and Kobe Bryant’s impact on the trading card world. It was a fun chat and you can keep up with all of the cool stuff Panini does on their website , instagram and t...
Feb 24, 2021•1 hr 15 min
We decided to draft a team of 10 players from across NBA history and create our perfect teams. The draft had a snake format and our first five picks had to be starters. We also had to pick a player from each of the major NBA decades (1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s), but had the additional limit that we could only select a maximum of two players from each decade. Some of you will be mad about the results. Subscribe to our newsletter: ballandorder.substack.com . See Privacy Policy at htt...
Feb 18, 2021•1 hr 15 min
The NBA in 1977 was very different than it is now. The ABA had just merged into the league, Finals games were getting bumped for non-major golf tournaments and several players called to be doctors, pinballs or aliens. In the first season since the merger, Bill Walton brought his Portland Trail Blazers to the NBA Finals against Julius Erving (aka Dr. J aka The Doctor aka Doctor Jota) and his Philadelphia Sixers. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange breakdown the Blazers' victory to win the franchise's fir...
Feb 11, 2021•1 hr 16 min
Time for another edition of NBA history cold calls. Gabe and Alex ask each other questions about NBA history without much/any preparation. They talk about Gilbert Arenas’s time with the Orlando Magic (and as an off-Broadway actor), Dominque Wilkins, dumb basketball terms like “two-way players,” NBA Top Shot stonks, Dwyane Wade going to Denver in 2016 and why Elgin Baylor could win a title nowadays. Gabe is also opening up packs of NBA cards and randomly interjecting them into the podcast. Subscr...
Feb 04, 2021•59 min
Luka Doncic and Giannis Antetokounmpo are two of the most exciting young players in the NBA history. They are already elite players. But in this structured debate, Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange are forced to pick only one of these two stars. Alex is trying to prove the following resolution: Luka is a better player to build a championship team around over the next five years than Giannis. Gabe tries to disprove the resolution. Subscribe to our free newsletter: ballandorder.substack.com . See Privac...
Jan 28, 2021•55 min
With Kevin Durant and James Harden getting back together in Brooklyn, it felt like a good time to revisit their biggest triumph in Oklahoma City with Russell Westbrook: making it to the 2012 NBA Finals. The Thunder went up 3-1 en route to a gentleman's sweep of Kobe Bryant's Lakers. This game also featured Derek Fisher, Kendrick Perkins, Steve Kerr, Craig Sager and Ramon Sessions. Sessions had the best performance of anybody in that group. Check out our substack for more: ballthoroughtheages.sub...
Jan 21, 2021•1 hr 11 min
Ohio State and Alabama are set to meet in the College Football Playoff Championship, so we revisited their last matchup in the 2015 Sugar Bowl in the first College Football Playoff. Ezekiel Elliott’s 85-yard run through the Heart of the South is what everyone remembers from this game, but so much more memorable stuff happened before that. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange talked about all of it, from JK Scott’s amazing punting performance to Evan Spencer’s uniquely perfect game. They also breakdown ho...
Jan 07, 2021•1 hr
NBA basketball on Christmas Day is a 73-year old tradition with many amazing matchups throughout history. Very few, if any, of Christmas Day games have had as much hype as the 2004 matchup between Kobe Bryant's Los Angeles Lakers and Shaquille O'neal's Miami Heat after their very public breakup. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange break down all of the hype around this game, what happened in the game itself, what it meant for Dwyane Wade's career and how we feel about Kobe as we head to our first Christ...
Dec 22, 2020•1 hr 30 min
Russell Westbrook is on the move for the second time since his MVP season. Only one other NBA MVP has ever been traded twice after winning MVP (Moses Malone) and none have ever been traded for as interesting of a return (John Wall and a mediocre first-round pick). Gabe and Alex get into historical comparisons to the Westbrook-Wall trade, the current state of the Houston Rockets and other depressing trades in NBA history. Gilbert Arenas-for-Rashard Lewis is obviously mentioned, as is the Iverson-...
Dec 15, 2020•1 hr 3 min
For college football rivalry week, Gabe and Alex try to find rivalries that have been broken recently. These traditions may be broken due to the games not happening anymore (West Virginia-Pitt, Miami-Florida, Kansas-Missouri), a trophy being taken away (Kentucky-Tennessee), or just one team being way worse than the other (Michigan-Ohio State). We go deep into all of these rivalries and more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privac...
Dec 04, 2020•55 min
The NBA Draft was Wednesday night, a night full of hope for many bad teams. While every organizations is feeling great about their picks now, some will look back at this night with disdain after making bad picks. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange go back through NBA Draft History since 2000 and talk about the worst picks in those drafts. They start off with a debate about the worst pick between Darko Miličić over Carmelo Anthony (and Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade), Deandre Ayton/Marvin Bagley III over Lu...
Nov 18, 2020•1 hr 11 min
BYU is back in championship contention in a very weird 2020 college football season. But it's not nearly as crazy as the year where BYU actually won the championship in 1984. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange get into how stupid the 1984 season was, how BYU ended up with the trophy, how much they miss independent teams and, of course, talk extensively about Syracuse and Kansas football. They also make fun of the Trump Campaign's last stand at Four Season Total Landscaping. See Privacy Policy at https:...
Nov 13, 2020•1 hr 6 min
The Miami Dolphins and New York Jets have arguably had the worst quarterbacking in the NFL over the past 20 years. Unfortunately, these are the two teams that Gabe and Alex root for. Ahead of Tua Tagovailoa's first start for the Dolphins, they pick the best and worst quarterbacks for each team since 2000 as well as their favorite and least favorite gunslingers. Brett Favre, Chad Pennington, Ryan Tannehill, and Ryan Fitzpatrick are all mentioned along with luminaries like Cleo Lemon, John Beck an...
Oct 30, 2020•57 min
College Football is fully loaded now with the Big Ten (and Mountain West) returning to play this weekend. To celebrate this or something, Gabe bet on Syracuse (+46) against Clemson and Nebraska (+26) against Ohio State! Alex relentlessly makes fun of him for this terrible parlay. Plus they get into the history of several matchups happening this weekend including former Syracuse QB Eric Dungey's great games against Clemson, Oklahoma State's gutting 2011 loss to Iowa State, Virginia's QBs turning ...
Oct 22, 2020•58 min
The Oklahoma Sooners have had a very successful last 20 years, but those years have been littered with some terrible losses in massive games. Gabe and Alex are joined by their friend and Oklahoma fan, Garrett (who you have never heard of unless you really love highways). Ahead of the Red River Shootout, they talk about Bob Stoops's early success, Rhett Bomar, Big Red Sports and Imports, how OU let Brent Venables go, and as much about the last two decades of Oklahoma football as could fit in an h...
Oct 09, 2020•1 hr 21 min
The Miami Heat unexpectedly reached the 2020 NBA Finals and face off with the Los Angeles Lakers. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange try to find teams that are similar to the Miami Heat throughout NBA history as well players that resemble Bam Adebayo and put Lebron James's 10th NBA Finals into context. They discussed the 2004 Detroit Pistons (14:11), the 2013-14 Golden State Warriors (25:19), the Derrick Rose/Jimmy Butler Bulls (35:24), and the 2009-10 Phoenix Suns led by Steve Nash and Goran Dragic (3...
Oct 01, 2020•1 hr 8 min
With the Miami Heat, the Boston Celtics, and Lebron James all in the NBA Conference Finals, it seemed like a good time to revisit Lebron's greatest performance as a member of the Heat: Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals against the Boston Celtics. Gabe Ibrahim and Alex Lange break down Lebron's dazzling 45-point domination in one of the most important games of his life. They also get into Doc Rivers's shortcomings on the heels of his collapse with the Los Angeles Clippers and Pat Riley's be...
Sep 18, 2020•1 hr 12 min
Many have claimed that the 2020 College Football season will be unprecedented. However, college football has already been through a pandemic-riddled season in 1918 when the "Spanish" Flu ravaged the country. Gabe and Alex dive deep into the 1918 season to see what it could teach us about the upcoming season in the age of COVID. They also theorize that Jim Harbaugh could be fomenting war in Canada to get the Big 10 season going, breakdown Georgia Tech's amazing run under John Heisman during World...
Sep 11, 2020•59 min
In his first NBA playoff action, Luka Dončić put up historic numbers for the Dallas Mavericks that can only be compared to the greatest players in NBA history. So that's what we did. We compared Luka's stats and performance to the playoff debuts of Oscar Robertson, Lebron James, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan. Gabe and Alex also throw in comparisons to Derrick Rose AND CHUCK "THE RIFLEMAN" PERSON, who somehow qualifies among these legends. See Privacy Policy a...
Sep 02, 2020•1 hr 2 min
