Human Design, Tarot, Astrology, and Connecting with Spirits w/ Meenu

We decided , since it's October and Halloween is right around the corner , why not talk about everything spirit and spooky season related ? So if you love Halloween , you love the fall , you love all these things , then this is definitely the episode for you .

So we're going to talk about spirits , we're going to talk about all things woo-woo , we're going to talk about human design , astrology and all other fun things that go with the conversation . So thanks , jonna , for inspiring to do this again .

So it's just like , not that I don't mind doing a solo episode , but then it's like I start talking to myself and then it's like no one's there to answer . You're like is that true ? Is it ? I don't know , is it ? Well , I'm going to have to come back to y'all because I can't ask myself that .

So it's like I feel like we don't like really go into it and , like you know , we , we bounce things off of each other and it's really great , but we don't go on a tangent well , I don't know , you should listen to someone .

But it's not that I'm trying to come across that way , I'm truly just being inquisitive . Maybe I just need to do better at like how I present it . But like I'm being inquisitive because , like I'm'm truly interested , like well , why do you think that ? Like , truly like , why ?

So I just was like I think you can have both , I think you can believe in both , because we talked about this the other day Like truly , I think that you know there was prophets in the Bible and God gave people the ability to see the future and predict things .

So I truly believe that people have certain gifts and I think they were God given and I don't know . That's just my beliefs .

They either believe in a God , they believe in universal energy power , supreme power , whatever , right .

So when we know that the supreme power , you know , created this , when we know supreme power creates everything , whether it's this planet , whether it's this people , whether you know it's other planets , whether it's the universe , when we know that , then I think we also should know that the supreme power , or God or universe , has created these tarot readers , has

created , you know , these psychics , like , has given energetic permission for them to do their own thing , just how there are professions for everyone . I think we have to respect that these people do this and sometimes it's not an all or nothing at all .

You can still believe in God , you can still have faith , or you can believe in the universal power and you can still believe that some people are just really gifted , like right , you know it's because we talk about Claire's you know , I've talked about it with my few clients which is Claire Voyant , claire Sentient , claire Cognizant , claire Orient .

Oh man , I'm missing something . Clairvoyant , clairsentient , claircognizant , clairaudient . Oh man , I'm missing something . I think that's it and then clair , no , that's it . So clairvoyant is the ability to like see things , when psychic ability to see , when you can see . But certain special people can see spirits , can see entities , can see other beings .

You know , we , we also think that children and animals are highly clairvoyant .

His name was romeo and I had romeo and coco they were brother and sister and my bedroom was downstairs and my parents was upstairs and I was always scared of the dark , and I think it was right after my grandmother had passed , but there was like a long hallway right connected to my bedroom small house , anyways , but um anyway .

So my dog , in the middle of the night , jumps off the bed and goes to the hallway and starts growling and like , obviously it's like midnight , one o'clock , whatever , and then there's no one there , no one has knocked nothing .

They then start backing up like walking , growling , and I'm like , oh my god , they see something , like they see a ghost , they see something , and I like instantly got the dog shut my door , locked it and was like what the hell ? Who was in this house ? It was . It was very freaky and very scary .

So I do believe that animals can see things that are not of our world .

It's like you know that it's still there , they can , they can still see all other like parallel universes and we obviously , with conditioning , after three years old , it apparently says that the whale is clear and there's a differentiation .

No , I wanted to dive into this because you kind of got me into the my human design , and obviously I love like terror reading and astrology . I didn't realize how much you knew about astrology , so I was like let's just lump this into this podcast .

But let's just start kind of with my human design , since it's kind of a shorter topic , and we'll end with astrology . But like kind of explain what my human design is for those that have maybe never heard of it or may know a little bit about it .

. So I think that's where I love human design , because your design is basically given to you based on your time of birth . So , because it's based on your time of birth , it's your actual original blueprint into the planet .

So it's not something you can change , it's not something you can control , it's not something you can fix , and it really aligns with who you are , or who you're supposed to be when you're living your human life in earth . So human design is a combination of I Ching , the Kabbalah , and then it's a common . It's a combination of the chakra system and astrology .

So it's a combination of so many things , and so a lot of my clients , and myself included , have found that it is extremely accurate than anything else that I have , you know , really like dabbed myself , dabbed my foot into . So it's like I love human design .

I had to get my birth certificate reprinted to find out the time because that , like you said , it's very important because it changes , like , if you say like , so I was born at 5.01 PM and initially , initially , we didn't know if it was AM or PM and you're like , it really makes a difference because it changed the personality type that I were manifesting .

So the entire planet , the entire human consciousness , comes within these five types . Okay , and so obviously each type is very different , and so I don't want to get into it and give a full reading , but what I'll do now is just like talk about the fundamental differences and all these types .

So generators are people that literally are here to light up everyone else . You know they are very . They have to do something that they really care about . You know they can do something just because other people are doing . They have to really like it . They love a step by step plan , they love planning things out . They like , they enjoy systems .

You know they're one of these people that are actual hustlers . They can really work hard and they can really hustle and they have like a defined energy center , um , in their chart . So that means they have they .

Other people I don't know how they feel , but other people always do feel like generators have consistent energy to do things , whether that's consistent energy to work out , whether that's consistent energy to to go to work , like they have consistent supply of energy to do stuff . So that's generators , and I love generators because it's like I'm a projector .

I don't have consistent energy , so I feel like we're a moth to a flame . Well , I'm a projector , I don't have consistent energy , so I feel like we're a moth to a flame .

They're like rule breakers , they're like rebels , they're visionaries . You know not that generators aren't , but manifesting generators are just like different Like . For them they can do something for a little bit of time and then they'll get bored and then they'll switch , and then they'll do that and then they'll get bored and they'll switch .

Like it's hard for them to really sit with something in the long term , right , so they switch timelines , they move really fast . So that's a manifesting generator for you . So you know any manifesting generators . Listening to this , you all nodding and I can , I can feel it , you know . And then the other one is like manifestors .

So it's really interesting because manifestors and manifesting generators manifesting generators especially are like the old souls . They've been on the planet for like many , many , many , many , many years . And then manifestors are also known to be old souls . So manifestors are more like . They don't like to be told what to do .

They're like leaders and they're very independent in their way of being . Okay , like . I've known manifestors that that just are like , well , I , I'm in this relationship and my boyfriend wants to do this and you know , I don't know , I'm not sure and always be like listen , you're a manifester , so you have your own way of like executing things .

You have your own way and style of doing this . So listen to that and maybe have an open conversation with your partner that this is , you know who you are , and it feels out of alignment to do anything else . So manifestors are often considered as natural leaders , leaders of the world .

So it's really interesting because for a long time , manifestors were the leaders and now projectors are starting to take the lead in the world .

I just love to be off service , like if I'm going anywhere , if I'm going to a party , like I'll always like help clean up after everyone leaves . You know , like I'm always like trying to like be off service .

You know , and I think that's just something that is deeply fulfilling for me , and I know a lot of projectors that are more in the service-based industry . They're either entrepreneurs or they're therapists , they're coaches so many projectors , right . So projectors are not energy beings , so we don't actually have a lot of energy , we don't have consistent energy .

So this is also really important If you're the projector , you are not for everyone and not everyone is for you . So there will be a selective amount of people that highly resonate with you and that you highly resonate with .

But if you're trying to make everybody resonate with you , maybe it won't work and then you might end up feeling bitter if you're trying too hard . So projections are people that are like guides , are people that don't have a lot of consistent energy , but have energy when they're with other energy beings .

So , for example , when I record the podcast with Jonna , I feel like my energy is just rising and rising and rising and rising because she's an energy being , so I am tapping into her and I am taking the energy .

So that's so crazy that because , also , with your line of work being an energy healer and talking about energy all the time , you would think that's so crazy that you would be a projector .

I am a hermit , hermit , hermit . Like I love my home . It is very difficult to drag me outside of my house , like you know . It is all it almost takes , like an like a sales pitch , be like , okay , we can go here , do this , and do you know like it's really difficult for me to get out of the house .

And you know I because I think my best self and my happy self comes out when I talk to the people that I love and I coach and I do the podcast . People maybe they don't , they don't feel that , but I definitely have a very introverted side .

So whenever energy beings and non energy beings collaborate , the person that has the and the person that doesn't have the energy center feels energized being around the person that has the defined energy center and then when they leave , this person suddenly feels like they , their energy just comes down .

So after the podcast , anytime like we collaborate and stuff like that after it I always be like , oh , I guess it's over , then I feel the same whether I'm on the podcast or not .

though .

So when you're you have your human design chart , when you have defined centers which , if you go to myhumandesigncom and put in your birth , time , place and all that , you will get your chart . And then you'll see certain areas which are colored , that is , your defined centers , which means you are born with that and that is your strong suit .

And then you will see born with that , and that is your strong suit . And then you will see some centers where there's no color , there it's empty , and that is your undefined center , which means you're tapping into the collective , you're open there , right ? So reflectors have all their centers as undefined . Oh , wow .

So for reflectors , I'll always say when a reflector is getting sick , check the community to make sure the community is okay , because they might be taking on the stressors , the anxieties , the you know everything , the commotion that's going on with their community Interesting . Yeah , so they're very , very , very special people . I think Sandra Bullock is a reflector .

Astrology really differs minute by minute . It's like super , it's even more like sensitive and right to times . You know .

So for them , they , they just need energetic permission it's like a permission slip to really be who they are , because they are now feeling a little bit further away from their personality . They're feeling further away from their personality , they're feeling further away from their blueprint . Right , something is

off .

So , for them , when I do the human design and say , well , according to the way you were born , this is how you're supposed to show up , this is how you're supposed to be , this is how you're supposed to make decisions , this is how you're supposed to choose partners , this is how you're , you know like you're supposed to rest , like and have a business plan like

. You know everything will . You can extract so much from the chart , right . And so when I give it to them , it's like , oh my God , this is such a relief , like now I know , now I understand this makes sense . This , the why I've been feeling off like this makes so much sense .

And then I have a lot of clients that have actually like printed out their charts and like pasted it on their mirror in the bathroom so that they can look at it every day and feel like , okay , I really want to like step into my design because it makes me really happy .

It makes me feel like myself and the conditioning of the world is like further and further . It's like enabling me to go away from myself , but my human design is like encouraging me to be myself . So basically , it destroys conditioning and it helps you be yourself .

But let's transition a little bit away from human design into tarot reading for a little bit , because , I know you , we briefly want to talk on tarot reading a little bit and then we're going to jump into the , the main kicker of all of this , which is the astrology . But tarot reading .

You know , I've had some tarot card readings before and everyone does it differently , which you were kind of explaining the difference in different readers , which I didn't understand . So I was like , oh my gosh , you've got to tell people this on the podcast , because I'm sure there's some listeners that love tarot reading . So let's talk about that a little bit .

So define tarot card reading for you and what it's meant to be .

So when they are tapped into the current energy field of yours whether , let's say , you are going through a breakup or you are devastated , whatever , and they're pulling cards , and all the cards that are coming are like validating that you're going through this transition , yada , yada , yada . And then some people even ask , like a future card .

Hey , can we have a future card , you know , and they pull a future card . So what that is determining is the potentiality of the future , based on the current moment only , right , okay , for example , the next day or the next week , you are a completely , you have a completely different mindset , completely different energy .

The cards are going to be different , right so ?

It's temporary , it's a temporary form of guidance , it's a temporary form of reassurance , it's a temporary form of like pick me up , right , it's not permanent Like , it's not like human design , but it's like okay , this is your blueprint , this is who you're going to be for the rest of your life .

You know what I mean , right , this is more like with your energy field that I'm tapped into right now . This is the pure potentiality of events that I see happening in the future , and that potentiality can change every second of every day .

I can't quite talk about yet . I'm not completely able to open up about the details of that until it's all said and done , and I know everyone . I've had several people reach out being like are you going to talk about that on the podcast ? I'm like I can't yet . And she pulled these cards without her knowing anything .

You know that's going on Because I can't talk about it .

And she reads five cards to me and then the orders that she gave them and I was like oh my , my gosh , this is everything that's going on with my house right now . And she was like what she was like ? Because she asked me before we started . She said how's everything going like ? Kind of like a huh , and I was like not good menu , not good .

And I was . She was like yeah , your card showed that a lot . She said but don't worry , it gets better . Towards the end and I was like it better , it better get better , but yeah . But like that headspace that I was like it better , it better , get better , but yeah .

But like that headspace that I was in that day , like it was just a lot of turmoil surrounding the house and everything , but yeah , so yeah it's very , very accurate .

Right , I'm going to tell you why that is Okay . So I don't know if people know this , but you know , for for a long time , I've , like I've waited for my green card for a very long time , like , so it's like I think so . I got my green card in 2022 of January , and I had waited for my green card for like eight to 10 years before that .

So my being in United States like became a little bit of a question mark right at one point . So I was like in a lot of like oh , like you know , I can't control it , what's going to happen ? I have no idea , right ? So it's obviously very scary because I have my business here , I have my life here .

You know , uprooting everything and going was a little scary . So there was a time when I got a lot of readings and I think this was around 2021 , before I got the green card and one day I was feeling like really down and really low and I got a reading from a reader and she was like oh , it doesn't . You know , it doesn't look that great .

You have to . It'll probably take like two more years or three more years to get your green card . I'm like what ? Oh no , that's awful , that is awful . And then you know what she predicted it wrongly . Okay , it didn't take that long , it took a few months after her reading . It took exactly three months and I got my green card .

Like I know that I can buy a set of tarot card deck off the internet , study what each card means , and then I can be like okay , let me give someone a reading and I read it based on , but I don't feel like I have the ability or the gift to be able to perform a reading .

that reader . Again , no shade , like she was good , you know , but I noticed that she was really projecting a lot based on my energy . Like , for example , in order to , like , do a really good reading , guys , you have to be really balanced . Let's say you have somebody that's saying , hey , I need a reading from you , right ?

You have to be very , very , very neutral and very indifferent to what the outcome is going to be , whether it's positive or negative .

You have to cleanse yourself , maybe do a little bit guided meditation before you know , before you really connect to the ancestors , and then just pull cards , right , In this case , I had already told my situation to this reader and I think my anxiety had passed on to her , and so the cards that she pulled were , you know , accurate to currently what I was feeling

at that time , but it didn't give a really accurate prediction of the future . So , in order to know whether it's a good reader or not , you want to make sure that you know they're grounded , you know their readings are coming from a neutral place , with no judgment about this or that , you know .

So it has to come from a non-jud balanced , neutral place , then you know that they are a good reader .

Like , for example I'll give you an example like two of cups , right , and I think I pulled that card for you . Is it okay if I share that ? Yeah , I don't . Yeah , that's fine , okay .

So two of cups I pulled that card for Jonah and two of cups cups , as you know , many I'm sure many readers are listening to this cups is something which fills our heart , which fills our cup , which is love related , which is heart related .

So , when somebody pulls two of cups , they might immediately assume that , oh , she's going to meet a new person , she's going to have a love interest , she's going to be in a relationship . But love can come in so many ways .

Love can come through a partnership , love can come through friendship , love can come through yourself , love can come through an activity like job . You know your house love two of cups , like okay , two of cups specifically is like another person coming , but that other person can really be anyone , you know .

So I , when I give a reading , I'll always say this is what the cards interpret . But the different ways that we can interpret are these possibilities , just so . I give you that option . Right , and that's the way I do readings . I'm never like this is what it is . That is what it is .

Sometimes it is like , for example , I'll give you an example One of my clients reached out to me . This was like two years ago and he was like I'm seeing this girl and I'm not sure where this is going and I'm not sure there's something unsure in me . So I need you to pull cards . Tell me how . The first card I pulled was a backstabber .

Second card I pulled was a liar . I'm just like , oh my God , that's awful for him . Did he break up with her ? Yes , and you know what the funny part is's awful for him .

Yeah , I don't like to be arrogant and cocky and be like you know like yeah , yeah , to be humble , Like I'm just like you know , this is what the cards are telling me , this is , yeah , I feel like I'm picking up and you know , I don't know this is out of out of place for me to say this , but I have to . Don't shoot the messenger Like this .

And I told him and he was like , oh , my God , I have been having a feeling that she's been cheating on me and she's seeing this other guy .

So it's sometimes it can be like on your face , very accurate , and sometimes it can be , it can . It can be a very much like a metaphor , like yeah , for example , right , it's like , it's like , oh , this can mean this , it can also mean this , it can also mean that .

So I think , um , being really open-minded and being super grounded and being unattached to the outcome . That's why I don't read for my friends , because when they're too close , I think there is a part of me which , like , wants the best for them .

Yes , it takes away like and I'll give you another example right this this particular client came to me and she was like hey , you know , like I really don't like my job and I really want to apply for other jobs , like that's what I really want to do , but I had a tarot reading that told me not to do that , that told me not to quit my current job , but

I feel very unaligned and I really feel aligned to apply for new jobs .

So that's why I think like , yes , you have everything , you have tarot , you have astrology , you have human design . But I always tell my clients , like , don't get caught up , because what you want to do , what's arising for you right now , that's more powerful than anything else . Your energy is more powerful than anything else . So get this .

The client that said , oh , the tarot reading said I shouldn't quit my job . Quit her job , found a much better job and she's still on it .

this . So tarot cards originally originated in Italy in the 1430s , it says . The earliest known tarot cards were hand-painted and commissioned by wealthy families as a status symbol . The oldest surviving complete tarot deck is the Sola Busca deck , which originated in Italy in 1490 .

The word tarot comes from the word word tarachi , which was used to refer to the cards in 1530 . The origin of the word tarachi is unknown , but it may be connected to the terror river in northern italy interesting very interesting been there for a long time .

You had to help me with that a little bit Because after I had my human design reading with you and I found out I'm a generator and you know , I told you I have a really difficult time making decisions . I was like it's really hard for me because I'm like , oh , I kind of want to do this , I kind of don't .

And you showed me the I don't know what the part is where it says the authority .

For people like , like , for sacred authority , making decisions is actually easier than other authorities because it's either a full body yes or no . Like that's it , the maybe is already a gray area , like , and you say and that that means it's a no right . Now . That could be as tomorrow , right , no , if it's a maybe today , then it's a no today .

I don't know , you pick . I always say that to everybody . But if someone comes to me and go , what do you want to eat ? Are you thinking something a little more healthy ? Are you thinking you want to splurge a little bit ? Asking those yes or no questions , I can then make an easier decision and I'm less indecisive .

If I'm like , oh , you know what , I want to eat a little bit healthier . And then she goes , okay , well , there's only two options in town Do you want to go to Mason Dixon or do you want to go here ? And I'm like let's go to Mason Dixon .

And then it's like problem solved in two seconds versus where do you want to eat , and I'm like I don't know , yeah , and then you know I'm that person that if I say I don't know , it's just one of those . I have to do a yes or no question .

So I've learned that yeah , from you , with my human design , so I didn't have to break those broad questions down into yes or no question yes , no , absolutely .

There's a whole chart for it , a whole map for it . There's like sun rising , moon rising , and I was just listening to something the other day that someone said it really doesn't matter what your zodiac sign is , but you know how people focus on like , oh , if you're a cancer , this you shouldn't date this person .

But someone said the moon I can't remember if they said the sun or the moon rising was actually way more important than your actual zodiac sign .

But a lot of people , a few people in my life , have told me I don't come across as a cancer . Right , lot of people , a few people in my life , have told me I don't come across as a cancer .

Right , I'm like , oh , okay , but because I have an Aries moon , so the way I express information , the way I express emotions is sharp , it's to the point , it's um , you know , because I have a fire moon , I have a water sun , but a fire moon , so fiery signs are always like , fiery , they come in really strong , you know , like , and they're not afraid to

express their opinion , they're not afraid to like , share their feelings . So whenever it comes to emotional processing , feelings and stuff like that , I feel like my Aries moon takes over . I express through that , okay , and then I'm also a cancer rising . So the way I walk my life , so I have a double cancer , so that's cancer , sun and rising .

But the way I walk through life and walk my life is very much a cancer , which is very much a nurturer , which is very much motherly , which is very much , you know , a caretaker Like . I am always the caretaker in the group . I'm always the nurturer in the group , like any friend group , any . Wherever I go , it's just who I am .

It's just who I naturally am . I don't even try to do that , it's just , it's just something that I do .

. After we do your , we're going to do a Vedic astrology reading which I didn't even I didn't even hear , like I don't even know what . What is Vedic astrology Like ? How is it different than just regular old ?

So whenever things are really that ancient , there is so much thought that goes into it , there's so much knowledge , there's so much more information , there's so much more research , there's just so much power that goes into something that is so old and so powerful .

And I've also known that , yes , I've like gotten my reading done , astrological reading done from like different readers here with this oh , cancer , sun , aries , aries , moon , cancer rising , and all of those things and different placements in my chart . But I have found , in my personal opinion , that vedic astrology is the most accurate of all the astrologies .

It like gives you timelines of things . It'll tell you okay , october to november , this is what you can expect . Oh , december to february , this is what you can expect .

No , like I love I'm a numbers girl , I love facts , I love , you know statistics , right , I like it when it's like when somebody can say oh , between this time to this time , this is what you can expect . Like I love tangible same . Like that , rather than saying , oh , just you know , balance your energy for the next year .

I'm like no , that's not specific enough .

We love like numbers and plans and things like that , but in those jobs there is no planning . There is no when shit hits the fan . Shit hits the fan and you've got to figure out a whole new plan . Like I would have done better , which my math teacher in high school and in college try to talk me into it .

She was like you really need to rethink your career . I don't think you're going to be happy as a nurse . I was like , but I love the caring and the nurturing side of it , but I didn't love the unpredictability of it . I'm telling you you're so good at math , be an engineer . And I was like , no like . But looking back , I was like you know what ?

I think that would have aligned a lot more , but looking back , I was like you know what ? I think that would have aligned a lot more and you changed your career path to be a little bit more predictable , because you're you can set your own schedule . You're an entrepreneur . It's like I'm only going to work between these hours and this hour , you know .

So you did change your career plan from the unpredictability to what you have now exactly and I can't like .

There's so much control outside and for me , like call , call me a control freak . I like to control my life . Like I like to control everything I like to with my clients . Now I can show up the way that I want to show up and they will get result based on what I give them . So there is a lot of like there is . There is a lot of like autonomy here .

I feel like there is a lot of things that I can do , and I'm not saying I can control my clients . I certainly can't control their outcome , but I can control how I show up . I can control the way you know the tools work . I can control the way I coach them .

So there is so much that I can do and I feel so much in my element when I can do that .

So and I have felt more aligned in the position I am in now , even though I probably would have excelled a lot better being an engineer .

With nursing , whenever you do a test and it gives you a question and it says which one , and you're looking at a , b , c or D and you're like , well , they're all right answers , but you have to pick the best right one . They're all right , but you have to pick the best right one .

Is it the time , the place ?

They've called the hospital and they've been able to get you know their exact time of birth . Some of them don't have it in their birth certificate .

But when it's just a copy , it doesn't have the time on there . Because I kept , because all my friends kept going it's on your birth certificate . I was like no , it's not . And then I remembered I had to get a copy of it . But then what ? What I did was I sent in for a certified copy .

If you get a certified copy , they actually send a certified original copy of your birth certificate . So now like and I think I paid 30 bucks to get it it it was like a online thing , so it took two months to get , but I just thought that was really cool .

So like , if you , if you're out there , if you've lost it , if it's , if something devastating has happened , like a house fire or something , you can go online and just Google how to get a certified copy . I can't remember the exact agency I use , but it cost me 30 bucks and that was for the paperwork , for the shipping cost .

It was cheap , it was not expensive .

Oh my god , I'm very curious to see what comes up yeah , yeah , I mean I'm obviously I'm gonna talk to you before we get on there , but I'm happy to share it , so I'm not like shocked online when I'm like , oh shit . I will never do that to you , girl like never , yeah .

You know ? Are they here ? Is it just woo woo ? Is paranormal activity , all like bullshit ?

And I'm just gonna tell you my experience guys like spirits are very much real , like they are , and you know , it's not as much as paranormal , I do feel like in movies they have to like make it that way , but the sound effects and with things falling and banging on the floor they make it like always scary .

The way I see spirits are like their human consciousness , but they're on another plane . They are not physical like us , where they can't touch and feel , but they're human consciousness . So they can probably see us and we can't see them , or sometimes we can see them and they can't see us .

So they're just literally on another plane and not everybody is like out there to get you . So it's not something that constantly has to be in a cycle of fear or horror or terror , right . However , demons , on the other hand , because some spirits can be very demonic . I do not mess with demons .

I've not worked with demons , but I have worked with , like , some spirits which are stuck , which have not crossed over successfully to the other side . I didn't know this about you ?

And I heard about him because I'll watch like a lot of Vanderpump Rules cast and I'll listen to their podcast . Yeah , he was on a podcast with Stassi and he was explaining everything about her upcoming birth and she was having difficulty like getting pregnant , and he was like no , I'm telling you like you're about to have a little girl .

And she was like , well , that's funny that you say that , because everybody tells me I'm gonna have a little boy . He was like , no , you're gonna have a little girl , um , and then he basically predicted her getting fired from the show , told her he was gonna have the work because he's also like you .

He's like I'm not gonna sugarcoat things for you , I'm gonna tell you what I see . Yeah , the like all that stuff happened to her and he had her , she had him back on her podcast and I was like , oh my god , I was like I've got to get a reading from this guy .

So I did and by the end of like he was doing things and it's all recorded , he was saying things like hey , by the way , um , I see a little bit with your health . Like , do you have thyroid problems ? this man does not know me and I was like yes , I was like I have autoimmune thyroid problems .

He was like yeah , I've noticed it's gotten worse since the COVID vaccine . He was like did you recently get the COVID vaccine ? And it was during . I was like , yes , he was like how have your lives been ? I was like yes , he was like how , how have your lives been ? I was like terrible and like predicted all that .

But then like at the end of it , to say all that , like he , I didn't ask for a medium reading , but he just said so . Are you comfortable with me telling you about some spirits ? And I was just like , and instantly , like hair stood up on the back of my neck and I was like yeah , as long as you're like not going to , like you know cause ?

I'm scared of everything . Any , any friend knows that I'm scared of everything . And he was like there's someone who , who passed away , that watches over you frequently and just keeps repeating to me she's not smiling like she used to , she's not smiling like she used to . And I instantly started crying because I knew exactly .

He was like do you know who that is ? And I and I was just like well , can you verify if it's male or female ? And he was like it's a female . And I was like , yeah , that's my grandmother . She used to pinch my butt as a little kid and go , you have the prettiest smile all the time . So , like , and I just instantly , like hair stood up .

But initially I thought he was going to talk about my uncle , because my uncle had recently passed when I had this reading , because my grandmother passed like years ago , and she , he was like , well , she's wanting me to let you know everything's going to be okay . And he , she wants to see you smiling like you used to .

And I just like instantly started crying , like all of this is videoed . And I was just like I would tell my mom , and like she started crying Cause she knew what my grandma used to say to me too . He would never know what she used to say to me .

And again , pandemic so many . Everything in my life was like falling apart , Like I didn't know if I was going to be in the United States . You know , the only sense of security that I had in my marriage was gone . You know , there was just so .

There was nothing that was mine , which I felt safe , and I didn't know if I was going to be in the same house . So everything felt like it would just shatter and everything felt like it would just go . And then I remember like having a really good cry , and then I just meditated and I was very . I meditated for an hour .

I was very deep in meditation and then I heard this voice , a male voice , a very strong male voice that said everything is going to be okay really soon , sooner than you think . Okay , don't worry . And I was tripping . I was like , what is it ? My imagination , Because that was the first time ever . I did not understand .

I was like is this my imagination , Is it God , Is it spirit ? And then get this somebody . I could feel somebody behind me . This was in my kitchen .

I was sitting in the chair and meditating in my kitchen and I felt this energy behind me and I could hear somebody breathing very loudly , like , like almost standing up on my neck , breathing really loudly , and you know what the funny part is At first I thought it was my dog , but then the dog was not there . I'm like who in the world ?

And then the best part about all this is I was not scared . And then I called up my mother . Mom , thank you for listening to my podcast .

I know you're listening to this and I called my mother and I was like so this is the episode that I had and I felt somebody breathing really loudly and I , but yet I felt a very strong male presence and a loving male presence , Right . And then she goes don't you remember that grandpa had diabetes ?

And the way he breathed , like his breath , was really like you know , like that , oh my God .

very much .

You know , I've done cleanses but it's not on my website , so I don't do it as like a primary thing . I usually , when I get a request , I like call in my spirit guides and check in to see if I'm the one that's supposed to do the work , and only if I get a yes I'll like move forward .

Like I actually did it with a pretty big establishment in Nashville , Like I can't tell the name of that establishment , but I did it with a pretty big establishment in Nashville and they had about 10 , no , they had 12 spirits and I trained somebody else to go with me .

This happened in 2020 , 2022 end and we went there and we did cleansing for about four to five hours and then we got a great report after two weeks saying they don't feel those funny activities and the energy is completely different .

Like now , like I know I asked Chris this on the podcast I had with him . I'll ask you the same question and I'll tell you his response . But like , do you like , let's say , you're just shopping in Walmart and you see something like a person ? Like , since you can't see them , can you sense a spirit with someone ?

Like , do you ever feel like you need to feel the need to go up to them and tap them on the shoulder and be like , hey , I just really feel like you need to know this .

You know . So I really believe , like , if people feel that they'll come to me and you know I may have a thing or two to say to them , maybe I will be off service , maybe I won't be of service , somebody else will be of service . Like , so I don't .

I really like when I say I really surrender to the forces , I really surrender to the Supreme Forces when it comes to this work .

And Chris has said multiple times the same thing , like he would never do that . I know you would never do that Because it also stays authentic to you Because you're like that just means if someone doesn't come to me , they're not ready .

But then I thought about it later and I'm like , yeah , that's a good boundary , and you know , when it comes to like , fitness advice and when it comes to you know , all those things , like Jonah and I were discussing this and she said , well , if somebody doesn't reach out to me , then they're probably not ready , and first I thought it was like , oh , that's

very , you know , aggressive . But then , when I thought about it , I was like , oh , it's a very similar boundary that I have .

But just being nutrition in general , like and I know this goes along with anything where there'd be spiritual coaching , energy coaching , anything like when someone is truly wanting to change their life , whether that be through diet , exercise , spirit healing , anything people do reach out . Oh one thousand , and they make it happen .

Because I know when I dabbled in talking to me and you about life coaching and stuff like that like it took me about a month to do it I was very , very interested .

After the podcast that we you and I did now over a year ago , it like literally got me like , okay , I'm really ready to do this , or , sorry , before the podcast , like I had reached out to you a month before the podcast and I was like , let's get on the podcast . And then I was like , guys , I really I'm very interested in coaching with you .

And then you were like , okay , yeah , this is , you know , this is my rates , this is what I do . And I remember going yeah , you know , I'm interested and just , and then I left it at that . And then we did the podcast . And as soon as that podcast I was like okay , I'm ready .

And I had texted you right after we got off the podcast and you were like yeah , okay , If you're ready . I was like yeah , no , absolutely

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I can't , I won't do that because I have no idea about that other coach , I don't know what . No idea about what they do . Maybe what they do is what you need right now . I don't know , I can't . I said make a pros and cons list . You know , this is what I do . I'm very transparent about what I do .

Like this is what I do Look up my website , look up my reviews . You can ask me any questions . We can get on a consult coach and then pick and choose , because I it's not my place , it's not my style , and if it's somebody else's style , no shame . Maybe that's that's the way you want to do it , but it's just , you know , not my style .

But if someone's listening to this and they're like , wow , I really love me , use energy and the way she's talking about this , I want either a human design or terror reading . Is that something that they can reach out to you , or how would they reach out to you to get ?

Like know I have a website , you know , so you know you can book through the show notes if you want a human design reading and if you wanted like tarot you know I don't charge additional for tarot , but if you wanted to do like a human design reading with tarot , then I'd be happy to do the human design reading and also like pull a few cards for you just

for guidance and stuff , which will kind of like be both in one and you can also also record the session . So whenever I do like long readings , like 60 to 90 minute readings , I always like record the session and I'll give it to the client so they can look at it from time to time , because human design is something that will never change , right ?

So whenever you feel like out of alignment in life , later , maybe six months later , you feel out of alignment and you want to like look at your chart and you want to recheck certain things , right , you can always go back to it , listen to the reading again , and I have known people that have listened to the readings our readings like five , six times sometimes

and that has , every time they listen to it , they unlock something else . So you know it's , it can be very beneficial . If you feel called to it , I am open . You know we can definitely do it .

Terror I keep saying terror , I pronounce everything wrong tarot , um , human design , astrology , all the things , and , yeah , keep the ideas coming in the inbox . Guys , we love doing podcasts together .

Maybe we should do an episode on that , jonna , since , like , halloween is coming up and yes you know , I think that would be amazing , just like the different ways to do cleansing and all the tools that are available . Maybe we can do like a follow-up episode in this to the next , and then that can be super beneficial .

So she's going to eventually come to Huntsville and visit me because , um , what we're going to do is get some content for her , but we also want to record in person just to have a little bit of a different vibe , and hopefully the goal is to do a video podcast for y'all , because everything is transitioning to video .

I know , I know we're both on YouTube , right ? You're on YouTube , correct ? No , I'm not I've been , I've been feeling it , so I'm on YouTube , but audio only . So hopefully once you come down , cause I definitely want to reach out to my friend , um Kenny .

She does videography and stuff like that in town so she could come record us , she could help edit it , she could teach us everything and then we would have a video episode for y'all .