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I set the stage with some reading before playing a video from what appears to be a former Scientologist's channel, Dazed But Not Confused. His video was first presented as a livestream so he is asking his viewers periodically how bad the buffering is. That isn't me asking. I got yelled at by some dope about it which is the equivalent of yelling at your TV expecting the people on it to hear you.
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Okay, three two one, we are live, hello, and tonight, I've got some very interesting videos to play for you, and I'm going to read you a little section going right back to that Transhumanism The History of a Dangerous Idea by David Livingstone. Now here's some really good information, good news. I just found an interview that he did with my friend William Ramsey, my acquaintance. I think we're friends. We email a lot, and he is. It's three years ago. It's about his book Order op Ko,

not the Transhumanism the History of a Dangerous Idea. But I just reached out to him because I found his email of his website through that William Ramsey episode. So hopefully we will get David Livingstone on here. No promises until it happens, but that's pretty exciting. I'm glad. I was actually fine,

finally able to find contact info for him. Now, if anybody out there is listening, and they can do me a just a neat little favor of letting me know in the comments on the live stream whether or not they can hear me, okay, because to me, my mic sounds funny. It sounds like it's low or something, and I don't know why that is. U. Yeah, just it doesn't sound as full as it normally does. It sounds maybe a little buzzy. I don't know. It could just be

the headphones. I don't know. But let's go ahead and get this started. I have a little bit to read to you and then we will go from there. Let me pull up one more tab so that I have something I can look at and we are rocking and rolling here. Okay. So, like I said, if anyone out there has the ability to see the live chat and they can just type in how the audio is, it's always nice to have that type of feedback, so I know if I need to

make adjustments so it doesn't ruin your time. I have a new page for you guys to take a look at, and it's on my simper fry llc Awesome Hot Sauce page. You know what, I think I maybe have to do like this like that? Okay, So when you go to simperfryllc dot com and you can do that right from the description of the video. So why don't we do that so I can show you where it is. Come down here, and I should have put it right on top. I'm smarter I'll do that when I get done. So right here you see it,

click it boom, right and there's new tabs up on top here. So this is the awesome Hot Sauce website. This is what I do for a living. This is what I've been doing for ten years. I make over thirty varieties of handcrafted hot sauce and i I've one awards. I owned a store in old town San Diego for seven years. Then COVID happened and flipped life upside down and we've held out for two years, but eventually I had to let it go right and been an interesting life of trying to pay the

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every month. But there's a calendar now that tells you who is going to be on and what times, So these will all apply to the Rumble, and I guess Facebook as well and X when they don't discontinue the stream. They haven't. They've been pretty good about it so far. But the red means I'm the guest, so you're not going to see that one on the channel. The black they're the guests, So that's when these ones would play.

Tomorrow, I have Todd Wood coming on. He's he does a podcast called Kilifornia on what's his name, The Walter Bosley Channel, So he's going to be on to talk about colts and some strange esoteric oddities going on, right, cult, ritual murders, all that good stuff. And I say that in just all that terrible stuff when day a cult rejects a fellow New Yorker is going to be on. Now, these times here are are for me in Arizona. But I have a little key up here says times in

Arizona. You subtract one hour for Pacific time, then you know it's going to start at that time, and you add two hours to the time listed here for the East coast. You would only add one hour for Central okay, and then there you go. We got the cult reject doctor Peter Glinnon

coming on every Thursday. Ralph Ellis, the author of Jesus King of Edessa, is going to be on on Friday, and then I'm gonna be on Tradcat Night, and I'm gonna be on with Niche this Monday, this coming Monday, and I don't have anything else filled in until Dr Peter glynnon the next two Thursdays. That might get added to, but right now, this is what we've got for a calendar, so you can start to see when to show up and when to get your questions in for doctor Peter Glidden and

it's all right here for you. Okay. This is on the podcast tab for Semper fryllc dot com. I also put up my player for all of my podcasts. Now, these are going to have commercials in them because they're coming out of Spreaker. But just below that you'll see that you can get into Patreons five bucks a month and you get it commercial free. There's my book and there you have it, and then on books it's just a straight link to that. So there you go. Pretty cool, right, I

kind of sort of have a website for ball bussers. Now finally, right, it just had to incorporate it. I wasn't sure if I wanted to mix two worlds and two genres because what I talk about on the show, you know, isn't exactly you know what I mean. Like, sometimes people will cancel you because you know, it's like it's hot sauce. Either the

hot sauce tastes good or it doesn't. They don't. People don't need to know what your you know, what your thoughts are on things, so when you share them, you run no risk a little bit of something something not very good happening. Right. So I did what I did because I feel like I need to have something up there and I can't pay for two websites. So there you have it. Now they're both integrated, and I think it's gonna be fine. I think it's just more stuff, more flavor.

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on that Thursday for an hour. It comes on with us, and then this one is for Doctor Monzo, and then this is for healing for the Ages. All these pictures you can click. Just make sure before you navigate away from Doctor Monzo's that you at least highlight and copy the coupon code so you can use it when you get to his page. Okay, so that's pretty cool. I'm pretty excited about this. I had to readjust the picture and everything to get it to kind of fit, kind of fit. But

I think this looks nice. It's nice and simple. Now, if I ever decided to integrate Rumble with it, I'll do that too, but we'll see. It's something for now. And I think the calendar is a big deal. I think that'll help out a lot. Now I'm going to show you the tabs real quick before we get into this. We have a piece of this episode here, the art the secret history of Cywar, conspiratainment, and the shattering of reality with Recluse. This is William Rams episode. We're

gonna watch a little bit of that. Possibly the one that I was I grabbed for the main event was Dazed but not Confused channel and it is called Connecting the Cults Number one manson Scientology and the Processed Church. That one has a lot of potential of being very, very good, and so we're probably gonna jump into that one mainly. But having just now found where is it? Uh, I think it's behind it. Actually get out of the way.

Yeah, this one right here, author David Livingstone discusses his new work Order ob Ko. Now this was three years ago, so it's not quite new anymore. But that's where we're gonna probably pay a lot of attention to because this is all going to tell the same story and fill in lots of details and this is should be a very well rounded, fun episode here. All right, once again, if anyone can just throw into the live chat, let me know, how's the audio sound, because it sounds very strange

to me, No, very very strange. I don't think it's my voice. I think it's the pickups or something on what's going on? All right? We are going to begin tonight with a little reading and that is going to come from none other than David Livingston's Transhumanism. I get into this book a lot here because it is a wealth of information David Livingstone Excerpts from his other lectures, presentations or whatever, have actually landed on episodes of Atlantean Gardens

slash Robert Sepper. He has two channels. He kind of just you know, he puts one up on one or the other, kind of like a backup. Okay, So I'm gonna start here and it's gonna sound disjointed until you get all the other added details coming into these you know, when we ventured these videos. So it says Angleton explains Francis stonor Saunders was a vital link in what was to become known as the PE source PEA standing for Professor,

referring to the CIA's connection with the Ivy League. Intellectuals or a certain sort of intellectuals have always had a romance about intelligence services, remarked Carol Brightman. It's a kind of coming of age experience going into the intelligence services, especially on certain campuses such as Yale, Scotland, Bolones Russell trust that straight up illuminati. The intersection of artists and intelligence has a long tradition, with

past examples including Somerset David or what is it something quake Gilman. That's the reason why I said that about the Russell Trust. Anyway, The intersection of artists and intelligence has a long tradition, with past examples including Somerset Moham working for the British Secret Service during World War One, Graham Green working undercovered for MI I five, and Joseph Conrad for MI six. Others also included Ian

Fleming. Now that name should sound familiar to you if you ever read a James Bond novel, and John lecar Lecare, one of Engleton's several proteges. Cord Meyer had edited the Yale lit and published short stories in the Atlantic monthly Atlantic Atlantis, you understand what's going on there? Before joining the CIA at

the invitation of Alan Dulles. According to Deborah Davis in her nineteen seventy nine book Catherine the Great, Meyer became the principal operative of Operation Mockingbird, headed by Frank Weisner, a project of the CIA which successfully infiltrated the media and film industry. There was also E. Howard Hunt, notorious CIA spy, as well as author of East of Farewell, Limit of Darkness and Stranger in Town, which won him a Guggenheim Fellowship. They love giving each other awards.

Hunt would later become infamous as a possible suspect in the jfk assassination and one of the Watergate plumbers along with G. Gordon Liddy. Hunt was an intimate friend of skulln Bones member and Knight of Malta William F. Buckley, who founded the political magazine National Review in nineteen fifty five. And remember, we think that these people are conservatives, they're just controlled opposition. They're both sides. They talk out of both sides in their mouth, and you think

there's a choice. Synthesis comes from the antithesis and the thesis, right, So they're the thesis and they're the antithys or anti thesis if you want to pronounce it that way. And that holds chow still. The people that we think that are, you know, against Boyden or whatever ridiculous political you know construct we have in our minds. They're out there talk about exactly what they

want you to know about and think about, but nothing else. It's about the limitation of where you go with those conservative views of yours, which had a major impact in stimulating the conservative movement. Yes In nineteen fifty one, like some of his classmates in the Ivy League, Buckley was recruited into the CIA, where he served for two years, including one year in Mexico City, as a politician, sorry a political action specialist in the elite Special Activities

Division, where Hunt was his immediate boss, E Howard Hunt. At the time, Hunt was helping to devise Operation PB Success, the successful covert plan to overthrow Jacob Arbins, the democratically elected president of Guatemalaw. Now we're going to slide packs here. Some of this stuff is, but it's not what we're going with tonight. I mean, there is something here about Knight of Malta, the P two and all that, but we need to go into

right here. When Martin Lee, author of Acid Dreams, The Complete Social History of LSD the CIA, the sixties and beyond, was asked as to whether or not he discovered the involvement of secret societies in MK Ultra, he answered that he in fact had, but chose not to include that information in his book. However, he explained to his interviewer regarding secret societies, well, when he comes down to it, the CIA is a secret society,

and within the CIA there are all kinds of secret societies operating. The Freemasons are in the CIA, the Knights of Malta are in the CIA, and other groups. These different secret society are not just within the CIA, but in the corporate world, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the FBI, the Defense Department, etc. These societies, if we understood them, might help delineate certain factions within the power elite. I think it works on two levels.

For the proletariat. For the rest of us, the rotary masonry doesn't really mean anything but on the very highest levels when you are dealing with very influential and powerful individuals at that level, perhaps studying these different groups can shed some light on understanding different factions within the ruling elite. Lee also reports that, according to Captain al Hubbard, a CIA spy also known as the Johnny

Appleseed of LSD. Albert Hoffman, the Swiss scientist who discovered LSD, was part of a small group connected with Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy in the early nineteen thirties who set out to make a piece pill to help mankind. Seeing the beginning of the Nazi regime, they consciously set out to make something like LSD, after which they did. After which they did, they kept it in secret for the world. Lysergic acid die Diethelmide or LSD had been developed in nineteen

forty three by Hoffman working as a chemist at sandoz Ab air base. I guess a Swiss pharmaceutical house owned by S. G. Warburg. That Waterberg name sounds familiar, doesn't it. However, LSD was first synthesized by Hoffmann in nineteen thirty eight from ergotamine, a chemical derived by Arthur Stole from ergat,

a grain fungus that typically grows on rye. As Lee discovered, Sandos was linked through cartel agreements to ig Farbin, which throughout the nineteen thirty has maintained a special secret division devoted to research on psychedelic agents and Nazi mind control. Experiments with mescalin were carried out on were carried on by Nazi doctors at Dacau. Lee concluded that Early concludes that therefore we can be certain that the

Nazi high command was already aware of these substances. During World War Two, Dulas was chief of the OSS and stationed in Berne, which is in Switzerland. That's where the kinder fresher is. Guys that fountain of the guy sitting atop the fountain with the children crawling away from him but on him, and he's eating one of them. That's the kind refresher. It means the child

eater. During World War Two, Dulas was chief of the OSS and stationed in burn and one of his I think they just did it, he says. One of his. One of his and one of his OSS assists since was James Werburg. DoLS had visited Sandoz in Basel, also in Switzerland, to gain direct knowledge of the uses and range of effects that could be gained from LSD on April twentieth, that's four twenty for all you weirdos out there.

Funny enough, right on April twentieth, nineteen fifty, the CIA under Dulles approved a project for the Intelligence Service to evaluate the use of LSD in a secret operation known as Bluebird. Do you know what else is significant about April twentieth. It's my mom's birthday. It's also the birthday of not nineteen fifty, but April twentieth is the birthday of Adolf Hitler. Yes, my

mom shares a birthday with him. On April thirteenth, nineteen fifty three, Dulls ordered Richard Helms, head of the Office of Scientific Intelligence, to begin the research program under Sydney for Research to develop a capability in the covert use

of biological and chemical materials. Dubbed mk Ultra, the project's ostensible aim was to develop mind controlling drugs for the use against the Eastern Bloc, supposedly in response to Soviet, Chinese, and North Korean use of such techniques on American prisoners of war in North Korea. The published evidence indicates that mk ulture involved the use of many methodologies to manipulate individual mental states and alter brain functions,

including the surreptitious sorry my, surreptitious administration of drugs and other chemicals, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture that all sounds quite like torture to me. Experiments included administering LSD to CIA employees, military personnel, doctors, other government agents, and members of the general public in order to study their reactions. Subjects were usually

unwitting. Can you it's it's It's difficult enough to willingly and and and consciously know that you're about to take a hallucinogen. It's a whole other thing when you don't know what's happening to you. That's and you have no frame of reference to uh base it on, because it's not something you've done before or

experienced. That's that's enough to make anybody feel like they're going crazy. While tests were conducted on criminals from the mafia, the CIA thought it thought it imprudent to further tamper with the organization instead of Instead, they chose the borderline underworld prostitutes, drug addicts, mentally ill patients, and other fringe types who would be powerless to defend themselves if they ever found out what the CIA had done to them. And that is, I believe line straight out of a

documentary that I've watched and rewatched recently. Hold on mk Ultra truly began. Truly began in nineteen fifty two, the year Aldis Huxley returned to the United States, accompanied by doctor Humphrey Osmond, who was who was brought but brought

in by Dulles to play a prominent role in the project. In nineteen fifty two, collaborating with Abraham and Sorry Abraham Hoffer and others, Osmon began working with psychedelics, particularly mescalin and LSD while looking for a cure for schizophrenia that would cause it. I don't know how we'd cure it. At Weyburn Mental Hospital in Saskatchewan, Canada. This is that. This is where you get

that as a giant West or it's the other guy. Osmond related in similarity, related the similarity of mescal into adrenaline molecules in a theory which implied that schizophrenia might be a form of self intoxication. He suggested that mescaline allowed a sane person to see through the eyes of his schizophrenic and suggested that it be used to train doctors and nurses to better understand their patients. I don't understand you're crazy. Let me get as jacked up as you are, and then

I can probably understand what you're doing. Osmond was one of the first to begin using the term psychotemmetric and I'm saying that right, psychotematic meaning psychosis mimicking or psychosis inducing, which was later adopted by the CIA and military for their purposes. It was John smith He's a former colleague of Osmond, who recommended

to Huxley that he experimented with mescaline. Smithy's was a cousin to Huxley's friend Christopher Isherwood, as well as Richard Dawkins and Graham Green that Richard Dawkins the guy that's on PBS. Huxley first became a probably know. Huxley first became aware of mescaline, the active ingredient in peyote, after reading an academic paper written by Osmond, and Huxley sent him a letter in nineteen fifty two offering

himself as an experimental project subject. Huxley's letter explained his motivations as being rooted in the idea that the brain is a reducing valve that restricts consciousness, and he hoped Mesklin might help access a greater degree of awareness, and nineteen fifty three Osman gave Huxley a supply of Mesklin for the personal consumption. The next year. The Doors of Perception, a title drawn from a poem by William

Blake, Huxley claim that hallucinogenic drugs expand consciousness. That's where the band got their name for the Doors Too from the William Blake poem. Huxley makes a

typical comparison of likening the mystical experience to schizophrenia. Schizophrenic is like a man permanently under the influence of mescaline and therefore unable to shut off the experience of a reality which he is not wholly enough to live with, which he cannot explain away, and which scares him into interpreting its unremitting strangeness, its burning intensity of significance, as the manifestations of human or even cosmic malevolence, calling

for the most desperate of countermeasures, from murderous violence at one end of the scale, to catatonia or psychological suicide at the other. In October nineteen fifty five, Huxley had an experience while on Ellis that he considered more profound than those detailed in the Doors of Perception. The man who introduced both Osmond and Huxley to LSD was Alfred Hubbard, who had worked for the OSS during the

war as a special investigative agent. Over the years, Hubbard also reportedly worked for the Canadian Special Services, the US Justice Department, and the US Bureau of Alcohol tobacco and firearms. Jesiste those people. Hubbard, who is known as the Johnny Appleseed of LSD, became an apostle for LSD in the early nineteen fifties after supposedly receiving an angelic vision telling him that something important for the

future of mankind would soon be coming. When he first read about LSD, he immediately identified it as part of that vision and tried tried it for himself in nineteen fifty one through his extensive connected connections, which included the Pope, Which included the Pope because he's a Knight of Malta. Yeah, as he once boasted, he has been credited with turning on as many as six thousand people to LSD. And we can probably cut it there. Let me just

look real quick. Yes, that's probably a good spot to set this one down for now, and we'll go back to let me go ahead and get this well yeah, okay, gotcha, bun, thanks, All right, let's go to the video. Is now what you want me doing next? I think we should get a little bit of the cy war. Yeah. So this guy, this guy, the one that says connecting called manson scientology and the processed church, he's a little different his personality, So we'll start

with that one and then we'll get into the other ones. I'll probably not can live much. The whole thing has gone a long Let's see what get the gist out of this one first and just about bust out of live stream covering all the information I wanted to cover. And this is only going to be part one of probably about three maybe four parts, because we're barely going to even get into the beginning of the story, which is Charles Manson.

We have to kind of work backwards and what the hell are we covering today? The cults of the sixties basically, and all the things that surround that. Specifically that includes Charles Manson his connections to scientology and the processed Church, and that will take us into the seventies when the serial killer phenomena kicks off, and specifically David Berkowitz or the son of Sam Killer. And like I said, there's so many docs dots to connect that we're going to go slowly

and work our way into this. I think we'll really hit our stride in part two. But the reason being is because you can see here, I mean, remove the chat for a second, We're going to be starting off with Charles Manson, and the story of Charles Manson is an endlessly fascinating one. It's also a story that is difficult to tell in linear fashion because Charlie and his victims were connected to so many people on so many different levels.

And how many of you guys. The craziest conspiracy theory that I have seen over the years is this one by Miles Mathis. I don't know if you guys have read this or not. Let me know in the chat if you have, but this one posits that the Manson murders were actually staged. I don't personally believe that. I've gone back to this document throughout the years, and there's some very interesting anomalies. We might actually cover some of this shit,

but it doesn't white hole water in terms of it being faked. I do believe that the murders happened. But like I said, there's some interesting stuff in here, and I'm sure some of you guys will in the audience will know about this. Anyways, Where to start here? Where to start? Okay, all right, we're gonna start here again. We're working backwards. So what on earth does the son of Sam had to do with fucking scientology in the process. Son of Sam refers to David Berkowitz, and I'm

sure you guys know the story behind him. How supposedly he was the lone killer in the Son of Sam murders in the seventies. Okay, so let's go. So what Son of Sam leaves out about the process and its scientology connection. This is in reference to a documentary that came out May twenty twenty

one on Netflix, which is definitely worth watching. Although they throw the creator of this, Marey Terry, who's the author that this is based on, They threw him under the bus a little bit at the end and kind of try to discredit him. But nonetheless, the book and the documentary series is well worth reading slash watching. So I might as well actually show you the trailer first to that, and then I'll read to you the jumping off point

and we can start going deeper into this. You guys are definitely gonna hear some interesting information about scientology, the process, and manson today. But we're just getting started in a certain way. So here's the trailer. Run from me Darla, a killer on the loose in New York for a year and three days. Ye Lie, is David Berkowitz, the man police believe to be the son of Sam. You better run. They totally ignored the true story of this case. God damn it, I'm gonna have to start that

over. Sorry about that. I don't want it to buffer, so I'm trying to figure out the right setting, so the damn thing doesn't buffer. This will probably work right here. So here we go. Run from me, darling. A killer a loose in New York for a year and three days is David Berkowitz, the man police believe be the son of Sam. You better run for your life. They totally ignored the true story of this case. Once they named Berkowitz, it was like, Hall lujah, we

got our bad guy. Everybody can walk the streets again. The city of New York can rest easy. There were real questions in this case. Why do the police not investigate more? You're not going to stakes Berkowitz for being six feet tall and long prospects dying accident? They were eight attacks? Would you do all? I did not pull the trigger and every single one of them. The most serial killer in New York City didn't build it on his own. This is huge, son of Sam is not over. Son of

Sam still exists. Work are wizards claiming members of a Satanic cult helped in the murder of six people. I could feel the darkness and this group is all over the street. There the voted to bringing on the end of the world. Is there a link between the mansion killings and the same killing? More wants to command, but nobody would listen for case went off the rails of the bad people more scared than this is still happening in prison. Who's still out there? You better run for your life. Okay, guys,

is that buffering at all on your end? It wasn't on my end, But I want to make sure that because we're going to run some video today and I want to make sure it's not buffering too much. I got to try out new settings. So what the hell does that have to do with what we're talking about. Let us get into it. So here we go. What Son of Sam leaves out about the process and its scientology connection. Now, that's in reference to the Processed Church of the Final Judgment, which,

as you learn about, is an offsheet of scientology. The Sons of Sam introduces viewers to the Processed Church of the Final Judgment. And here's what the Netflix documentary leaves out about the about the movement. Supposedly, you guys might recognize that from the thumbnail the Sons of Sam I Descend into Darkness introduces viewers to the Processed Church of the Final Judgment, but a lot gets left

out about the movements and its roots in Scientology. Netflix docuseries is largely told from the perspective of journalist Maury Terry, who dedicated his life to the Son of Sam case, hoping to prove that David Berkowitz didn't act alone. Terry's research into the alleged cult members John and Michael Carr, who Berkowitz claimed were co conspirators to his crimes, revealed a past link to the Scientology Church and an offshoot branch known as the Process Church. Now, before we get deeper

into this, Michael Carr was a high level scientologist. He's the one that supposedly introduced David Berkowitz to the Son of Sam Colt, which is an offshoot

of the Process, which is an offshoot of Scientology. He got a suppressive declare from Hubbard, got booted out and joined, like I said, allegedly an offshoot of the Processed Church. I hope that makes sense so far so Terry believed that the New York branch of the Processed Church spawned a Satanic cult called the Children, and as you'll see, that might be more along the lines of an offshoot called the Four P's of the Sas or the Ching Goon.

And Netflix true crime documentary examines Moreitary's theory that several members of the cult were behind the nineteen seventies killing spree. I don't mean to interrupt him, but tomorrow we have Todd Wood coming on and we're going to talk more about the four p Colt and this will all tie into that. This is going to be a really good primer for our discussion tomorrow. So this is perfect attributed to the Son of Sam. There's more to the process and it's connections

of scientology than what gets explained. I have to take a drink of water. Standby. Let me throw on the fricking tunes in the background. Most people didn't find that too annoying, but if it is, just let me know. Also, it really does help to drownd out the air conditioner and some of the other shit that feedback from the computer and whatever. Although the gym isn't necessarily that good. We'll try different ones, Okay, Come on,

buddy. There's more to the processes and its connections in scientology than what gets explained in the Sons of Sam. In the early nineteen sixties, newly married scientologists Mary Ann MacLean and Robert de Grinston used the skills they acquired while training to become auditors for the Church of Scientology, along with l Ron Hubbard's Emeter, to create a rogue offshoot of the church, originally called Compulsions Analysis.

The group's initial ideology blended together therapeutic processes, hence the name borrowed from Scientology and ideas from psychotherapist Alfred Adler, and he was covered in that little diagram that I showed you from Scientology, who helped establish the field of psychoanalysis alongside Sigmund Freud before breaking away from the movement to found the Society for Individual

Psychology in nineteen twelve. And just to show you some of the processes that they used, no pun intend and how much they are like Scientology, I'm going to show you some footage that was put out by a really hard to find movie from the cult itself called Sympathy for the Devil, and so it's kind of a pr puff piece by the cult, but there is some interesting information in it, and you can also see some of the processes that were used by this cult. I was afraid. I didn't know what to expect.

I had no experience about any kind of psychological anything. Really went into this room and this was my first experience of the group. Two rows of chairs. You have to look at the other person real close without blinking into truth games, so you know, after a lot of gaze, you were supposed to say exactly what you felt about that person, and you're supposed to just be very very open and not to react to you. I mean, the face opposite me is about here. You had really need to find something

either think, guys, is it buffering a lot or not? Can you please let me know because if so, I don't want to you know, I don't want that to happen, and I can just put it on a smaller screen and reduce the resolution if it is, so, please let me know while you're listening to this if it's buffering and how bad it's buffering. Thank you? Okay, physical psychological detailed that would get in you. What

a pretty stupid looking thing everyone you're known as. I mean, really, just the way your eyebrows troop, you have scum in the corner of your eye. This is I'm doing the tr specifically bull baiting. That nose is kind of absurd, just sitting there in the middle of your face, you sink. I mean, really, anything that you would think wash out right? It was really. I just want to make sure the buffering was okay. So let me take it back a little bit, and this buffers anyways

just because of this video. But if you guys can hear it fine and it's not skipping all over the place, it'll definitely be fine for the rest of the video. So what if you're just joining us. We're talking about some of the processes. This includes the trs and the auditing that you'll see that the processed Church of the Final Judgment ripped off from Scientology, huge front

door with this weird looking logo on the front purple. When I arrived in the kind of horror, there was some touch of sado masochism singbles of dragons and not swastikas, but something close to swastikas. Because a number of us were architecture and designers. We kind of saw things and symbols. The first symbol I think became out with the four P of the process face change.

We never saw anything like a SWASTI didn't see it because you had it report everybody else for right now that I was afraid, I want to expect. I had no experience about any kind of psychological anything really went into this room, and this was my first experience of the group two rows of chairs to

look at the other person real close with that blinking into truth game. So you know, after a lot of gazing, you were supposed to say exactly what you felt about that person, and you're supposed to just be very very open and not to react, you know, I mean the face opposite me here, you had really need to find something either physical psychological detail that would get in. You got a pretty stip little face. The pr is gross.

I mean really, just the way your eyebrows droop, You have scum in the corner of your eye, noses kind of just sitting there in the middle. Face you stink. I mean really, anyone could look at you and think wash out right. It was really, really, really tough to take to be asked this compared to the culture where you never said something direct never, you didn't say that in public to a stranger. The idea is

basically to flatten out the reactivity. And there are not many ways in life that you can actually push yourself to the limit in order to learn after what comes down when you're pushing the limit. Yep, that's what I used to say in justifying scientology. I remember even talking about that with who fuck was?

I think Andrew gold where you know, he didn't see a problem with that because we tried to actually do some of that bull baiting that you just saw in an interview that we did a while ago, and it's just it seems like it can help you out. But I would say that it's breaking down the boundaries. And then here's another example of more scientology in the process. There's no question in my mind that Robert de Grimston was channeling something.

Rot's Rising is fantastic. It has some quality that bypasses the usual linguistic filters and works directly on the nervous system. This world of men is a play base of dumness and misery and pain and anguish and hatred and failure for the world man his hell. You guys might know that guy. He's Genesis p. Rage. I'll put a video in the description box where you can link

to him. He's a very interesting character and he sounds so much like when he speaks, because he kind of formed his own cult around his rock band. When he speaks, he sounds like the same word salad that l Ron Hubbard does. Humanity is the devil. The presence, the feeling there was very powerful. The thing is I knew it was a brainwashing cult, but I thought, this is interesting. What would they do to make me turn out like them? They were all very, very thicken, and they had

this kind of very recognizable mannerism of the unblinking eye. I gather that they were the impression that they were taking telepathically another So this was kind of super mind going in the middle of fat This is a session, and what I will be doing is here's their session. Man. They do it telepathically.

This is totally against the auditor's code, where they actually evaluate for the preaklayer asking a question and then I will receive telepathically from you the answer for what was then the equivalent for almost a week's wage for me for one hour. I would sit one side of the desk with a notepad and pen, being asked questions by the telepath. The first question is what is your most immediate

problem? He would ask me the question. I would think about it, realizing I wasn't expected to give an answer, and then he would tell me the answer that he had elicited from my unconscious not having enough time, and I would usefully write, yeah, okay, so why are you not having in time? I mean, it sounds bonkers, but I lose about myself. I have too many things to do, which I may have turned in other way, but I learned things through those sessions. How does that serve

you? By having too many things to do? It kissed me from doing anything. That must look absolutely absurd, But it's just weird. How much that guys sound like an indie processing and where Yeah, I got something out of the tech. You know, it did seem to happen. Maybe I couldn't have gotten it elsewhere. Who knows? Right, anyways, back to this, So there's more of the process and it's connections to scientology than what

gets explained in the Sons of Sam. In the early nineteen sixties, newly married scientologists Mary M McLain Androbert de Grimstead used the skills they acquired while training to become auditors for the Church of Scientology, along with l Ron Hubbard's Emeter, to create a rogue offshoot of the church, Originally called Compulsions Analysis.

The group's initial ideology blended together therapeutic processes, hence the name brought from Scientology and the ideas from psycho therapist Alan Adler and we already read that sis Alfred. Eventually, Compulsions Analysis formed its own theology centered around four gods, Jesus. Robert de Grimson was the only one the leader that was allowed to be Jesus, Jehovah, Lucifer, and Satan, which has led some religious scholars to difine the Process as a form of Satanism as seen in the Suns of

sam. By nineteen sixty six, the Process had become a legitimate church, with chapters established in at least four countries, including the New York chapter covered in the Netflix documentary. As the Process became increasingly evangelistic, it began issuing. A glossy magazine also called the Process, a surprisingly groundbreaking example of independent

publishing of the time, with Frank issue topics like Scientology. The Process also garnered attention from celebrities during the height of its movement in the sixties and seventies, including Mick Jagger and Mary Anne Faithful, and Marianne Faithful had to be kind of rescued from the cult because her parents were worried about her. It's also true that the Processed Church grew members began to create new offset factions of

the movement. Again, they splinter off just like this as a splinter from Scientology, which is where Morey Terry's theory about that children came from, though the connection remains difficult to prove. The so called Processions also denied any connection to the Manson family, despite the fact that many people believe Manson was influenced by the Process. As Netflix, the Sons of Sama assented to Darkness portrays he definitely was influenced by the Process and will be getting into that process.

Magazine editor Malachi McCormick explained how the Manson rumor got started. According to Art Forum, McCormick claimed that the Church of Scientology spread the rumor because, according to McCormick quote, McLean and Grimston had stole the tech the E meter and were considered apostates by Hubbard. The rumors hurt the movement, which declined in popularity after the Manson murders. If what McCormick claims is true in this way,

at least the process never did managed to escape its Scientology roots. I don't think that that's quite accurate, because Scientology would be taking one hell of a chance by trying to discredit him in that passion. But here's an internal memo you might find this interesting about let me just say something real quick.

They had to put out so many fires because of this Processed Church, because they were not only being linked to Manson, but as you see David Berkowitz, and you'll understand why as we go, but they fairgame Moriy Terry set up a whole fair game campaign against him. He's the one that wrote this book. Let me grab it. This book is called The Ultimate Evil, The Search for the Sons of Sam and it's kind of a huge book and

it's a hell of a fascinating read. I would say used discernment probably not all accurate, but this is the book that kind of started the series and the conspiracy theory about all this and Scientology has constantly had to put out fires, whether it was having to do with Bruce Davis, David Berkowitz, Charles Manson, and a host of other characters. So check this out. This is an internal memo of this kind of coming up and them having to deal

with it. Let me throw the music on real quick, make a drink of water. What do you guys want to hear? Chill down, tempo, lounge, hip hop, Lofi, chill hop, ambient, and future hop. Let's go at chill hop. Okay, Oh, dear God. The following is text of an actual internal memo recovered from Scientology during the nineteen seventy seven raid by the FBI of Scientology's headquarters at that time, Los Angeles. Dear Mary Sue. That's in reference to Mary Sue Hubbard compliance report,

Ree Manson and Bruce Davis. There have been numerous new developments on this case and they are as follows. An individual by the name of Steve Grogan appeared on our lines. Steve Grogan was a member of the Manson family and he was an ex Scientologist as well as Bruce Davis and Paul Watkins. And as we are going to come to learn, Manson was heavily involved in scientology as

well. I received word that he had made statements that he was a member of Manson's family, and therefore started some intel action, which at first consisted of talking to the girls he had been in contact with. By the time I had finished talking to them, Grogan had been put away in jail for cartheth. In spite of numerous efforts on our part, it was impossible to

get together with him. I had the girl he seemed to be most in calm with that means communication, journey out to the valley on four different occasions to to to him, and in spite of our best efforts, he was never made available. He was either in court or the jail was under or the jail was undergoing extensive redecoration. I think we just lost the uh oh, it doesn't matter if I lost the camera. Okay, connections a little bit loose. I think one of these days I'll get that damn thing fixed.

He was either in court or the jail was undergoing extensive redecoration. Of course we did not want to know, and that a member of the church was trying to see him. At the same time this was going on, we received word that two members of the Manson family, Squeaky From and Sandy Good, were staying at the Biking Hotel on Third and Alvarado, which is in close proximity to the ORG. We made no efforts to contact them. Let me blow this up a little bit, okay. On eighteen June nineteen

eight or is that say night okay? On eighteen June eighty, the following report was received by me. I don't think that's eighty because that would be way too late. According to rawl Rall arrived in prison on McNeil Island, Washington in nineteen sixty two and became a cellmate of Lafayette Ramier. I don't know if it's Raymier or Ramiir. I'm not sure how you pronounced that, but that's the guy who introduced Manson to scientology, allegedly a trained scientology auditor.

He is a trained scientology auditor, and he received something called the Doctor of Scientology at the time, which was a certificate that they don't give out anymore. A trained auditor about level one in Raoul's estimation, and was introduced to scientology at that time. Raymier was auditing in prison at that time and in one ten man cell had managed together had managed to gather a group of

about seven all in scientology. Charles Manson entered later and studied did TR zero et cetera along with his cellmates, and received approximately one hundred and fifty hours of auditing from Raymier. Let me throw the chat up here because you guys don't necessarily need to see that. Okay again, all the links will be in the description box after the video publishes. So what he did was t R zero along with his cell mates. He received approximately one hundred and fifty

hours of auditing from Raymier. Processes used were CCHS help process, who have you helped and who have you not helped? And other dichotomy processes Ruel's terms such as what can you confront and what would you rather not confront? Having this such as what can you have? Look around and find something you can have, look around and find something you're not in. Rainier kept records of

his auditing. Manson got super energetic and flipped out when he'd been audited and would for a time talk about nothing but scientology, to the extent that people avoided his company. Yeah, no shit. After a while, however, Manson was screaming to get away from his auditor, and that's because he was severely overrun. That means if you run a process too long, they do something in scientology called red tagging you. This happened many times when I was

doing sessions. If you go too far beyond a win or what they call a floating needle, you can really go out of your mind, and they have twenty four hours to get you back in. They put a red tag on your folder. Otherwise you might go crazy. You have psychotic breaks often in scientology, and this is their way of getting you back in to fix it, get you back in the trance state, remember the win or the high, and then you won't go out and become form your own mansonesque cult.

Okay. He eventually managed to get foot in solitary confinement to get away from his auditor. This is why Manson says scientology is too crazy for him, because they literally drove him crazy. Eventually, prison officials got suspicious of the group's strange activities and broke up the group. Subsequently, Rawl was released from the prison in nineteen sixty five, and Raymier's wife was in training here at the La Orgue in nineteen sixty five to nineteen sixty six, she had

disconnected from raymier Rall. Just found out yesterday that another friend, Marvin White, later sent Manson's book books after the Scientology group was broken up on hypnotism and black magic. That's appropriate enough. Now here we get into some other anomalies that are around Bruce Davis, who was an ex scientologist at the time that he joined the family, and he also had connections to the Processed Church.

This is from Bugliosi's best selling novel Helter Skelter, which compared to Tom O'Neil's book is because you kind of take Tom O'Neil, if you guys have read Chaos, basically takes Bugliosi's book apart and shows kind of what a fraud he was. But nonetheless there's a lot of interesting information in Helter Skelter. The bodies of James Sharp fifteen and Dreen Gall nineteen were found in an alley in downtown Los Angeles. The two teenagers have been killed elsewhere with a long

bladed knife or bayonet, then dumped there. Each had been stabbed over fifty times. See this is why we got to have some music in the background or try to lighten things up because trigger warning, this is kind of heavy. Rampart's Division Lieutenant Earl Deemer investigated the Sharp Gall murders, as did Los Angeles Time reporter Cohen. Although this is not let me actually turn this off,

it's not appropriate. Both James Sharp and Doreen Gall were scientologists, the latter of scientologists Clear, who had been residing in a Church of Scientology house. According to unconfirmed reports, Dereen Gall was a former girlfriend of Manson family member Bruce Davis, himself an ex scientologist. Davis's whereabouts at the time of the murders of Sharp, Gall and Jane Doe fifty nine are not known.

He disappeared shortly after being questioned in connection with the death of Zero. On December one, nineteen sixty nine, Joeldine Pugh, husband of family member Sander Sandy Good, was found with his throat slit in a London hotel room. As noted, local police ruled the death of suicide on learning a fuse demise. Inno County DA Frank Fowls made official inquiries, specifically asking interpal to check visas to determine if one Bruce Davis was in England at the time. Scotland

Yard replied as follows quote. It's been established that David is recorded as embarking at London Airport for the United States of America on April twenty fifth, nineteen sixty nine, while holding the United States passport blah blah blah. At this time he gave his address as Dormer Cottage, Fellbridge, Surrey. This address

is owned by the Scientology movement and houses followers of this organization. From Paul Atte Cooper's a Scandal of Scientology, another bit of publicity that the scientologists are probably not too pleased with. Concerns the murder of three people in Los Angeles, two were scientologists. And then I'll go ahead and linked this in the description boxes. We have a lot more to cover, but here's more murders. But Bruce Davis has been tied to, loosely tied to, or let's

just say he was suspected but never convicted of those two murders. Scientology played an important part in the lives of Charles Manson and Bruce Davis. There's documented evidence regarding the teachings of scientology to Manson, even while he was incarcerated during the nineteen fifties. It's reported Charles Manson reached the level of clear and was rather astute in his adaption of control and manipulation techniques when dealing with other people.

Manson used scientology to answer questions with Diane Sawyer during the ABC television broadcast. Manson often expressed the concept of living in the quote now, and the term was used to describe the murder of Shorty Shay when the killer said it was hard to bring Shorty to the now. Bruce Davis was an emissary from Manson when he traveled to England to work out problems between the process and Scientology. Davis denied to the BBC reporter Bill Murphy that he ever traveled to Manchester,

England, despite the fact witnesses solemn there. Murphy had had an acquaintance who actually witnessed Bruce Davis traveling around Manchester with a coven of witches. Murder victims Doreen Gall and James Sharps were deeply involved in the Church of Scientology, and it was documented James Sharp's and it was documented that James Sharp conducted instruction to Doreen Gall the night of the murder. He was taking miss Gall to the level of clear and Gall was all cool, Gall, I need to

get a drink of water. Man and Gall was also working on at the time of her murder. Bruce Davis lived in the same communal residence as Doreen Gall. While he was very active in Scientology, the owner of the residence was the Church of Scientology. Now just prior to the murder of Doringall, she made a telephone call to her father asking for an airplane ticket home. Mister Gall told Doreen he would send her a round trip ticket. She responded

that it should be a one way ticket. Said Gall to her father, quote, I think this stuff is all a bunch of horseshit. She was leaving the Church of Scientology, and the fact was documented by a friend of Dorang Gall who resided in New York, who had offered her a job. For whatever reason, the Church of Scientology has played a very important part in

the Manson saga. The Church of Scientology even offered a reward for the arresting conviction of the first and persons responsible for the murder of Doreen Gall and James Sharp, perhaps to cover their own ass right Susan Atkins stated that a quote man used to come up to gol Or Wash and have meetings with Manson. Quote. I believe he was with the Church of Scientology, said Atkins. Paul Crockett, Paul Watkins, and other Manson family associates spoke of the influence

of Scientology on Manson. Best selling author Ed Sanders made some statements about Scientology in the process Church and his first edition of the Family. Legal action caused Standers to remove that portion of his book and the subsequent editions. Scientology is an important part of the Manson story. I actually have that chapter that's missing. You can only get in an English version and it costs like four hundred dollars to buy. I'll put the whole English version of that book in PDF

forum on the actual in the description box after we'd done. Okay, that leads us to Gooler Wash, which is just being talked about here. So stand by, Okay, yards bullet washed around the first of March nineteen sixty nine. This is kind of like the the oh I think we lost the camera agon. This is kind of like the Indie Scientologist battle, like Manson

was rejected from. He was rejected from scientology. Once he got out of prison, he went to San Francisco and he wanted to kind of sign up and become a scientologist, but they declared him Type three, which means he's psychotic. So despite being rejected, he taught this philosophy and used a lot of the techniques with this flock, and Paul Watkins was able to get out from science or the Freudian slept from Manson's control by meeting an indie scientologist at

Goyer. Well, let me just read this. It's quite interesting, but they're kind of like a battle of the indie scientologist and shit that was going on between Manson and the person that got Paul Watkins out of the colt and others. So around the first, let me hang on a second. Are you guys able to see the chat overlay? If only you could see what's happening over here? That's like going on. But are you guys able to see the chat overlay? Can you please hit a one if you can see

it, or a two if you can't. Because I can't freaking see it, I'll leave it there for now. Okay, So around the first of March nineteen sixty nine, two miners named Paul Crockett and Bob Barry arrived at the Barker Ranch to find Brooks, Boston and Juanita living there following the marijuana raid. Bob Barry had visited the Barker Ranch area the preceding autumn and evidently had enjoyed himself. Crockett, this is the guy, the indie scientologist.

Crockett, let me check actually real quick, are you guys able to Okay? Thanks a lot, man for let me know you guys can see the chat. I can't see anything over here. Man. It's like trying to juggle so much shit over here. Sooner or later I will get the hang of this freaking thing. Okay. Bob Berry had visited the Barker Ranch area

the preceding office autumn and evidently had enjoyed himself. Crockett and Arcticket are an articulate gentleman in his fifties, filled with the lore of scientology, left his home in Carlsbad, New Mexico, to come to Golor Wash for the purpose of discovering gold. Bob Berry and Paul Crockett began to stay in the small

tarf tar roofed cabin to the left of the main Barker Ranch house. The two began to scour old mining sites at the pan at the Panamint Mountains, Wingate Wash, and South End Canyon in order to look into the mother load. By night, Barri and Crockett would sit and chat with Brooks and Juanita and later Paul Watkins when he returned from Los Angeles. One thing that struck the miner slash metaphysician Paul Crockett was the enormous fear that Paul Watkins and Juanita

and Brooks had for this mysterious Charlie. It came to pass that Paul Crockett hired for board Brooks postin to help haul one down from the hillsides. It's common for miners to engage someone to bring weekly shipments of supplies via jeep to their claims on their camps. Blah blah blah blah. Okay, so Crockett up to his food order to accommodate the thin, young, transprone Texas Boston.

I'm pretty sure I read this whole entire book when I was like sixteen or seventeen, the Elder Skelt book, and watched the really crappy documentary about it too. They would go out by day to inspect old mine sits, old diggings, and outcroppings, hauling one samples back to the ranch when they reached a dusk for or samples back. When they returned from dusk, they would crunch up the samples in a rock breaking machine that could chew the mineral

into forty pieces per cubic inch. Sometime in the spring, Little Paul Watkins traveled the Death Valley, where he visited Wannita and Brooks and met Crockett. Little Paul returned to the Spawn Ranch to announce the horrible news that quote scientologists had taken over the Barker Ranch, news which triggered off a fearful reaction within the family. Oh no, the indie scientologists are going to take over,

Watkins pertuted. Watkins persuaded Charlie to let him go back up to Barker Ranch, perhaps to keep an eye on the so called scientologists looking for the mother load. Several times during these spring months of nineteen sixty nine, this is right before he gets caught and they're out a Goler ranch or golar wash. Manson and the others tried to drive up to the Barker Ranch, but it always seemed that something went wrong, which beams were thwarting them, or with

the so called scientologists keeping the family away. Paul Crockett certainly didn't do anything to dispel the illusion that he was preventing the family from coming out there by means of his mental powers. In fact, he was promoting the idea that he could establish a magical warp to prevent Manson from returning to harm those remaining

in Death Valley. Can you imagine that? I mean, it's literally like a battle of the scientologists out there in Death Valley, or who gets to retain the flock right before Charlie's about to go to prison and this shit's about to break. The family seems to have begun to believe that occult beams and powers were attempting to prevent them from returning to Holy to Holy Devil's Hole.

Even Manson ever a beamfoe. This is Ed Sanders talking. By the way, in the book The Family Again, there's a free PDF version that'll be in the description box evidently held some belief in Crockett's power. Paul Walkins, so he claims, cited at the advent of various murderous schemes to get out of the family. So he placed himself in the tutelage of Paul Crockett. Quote he Crockett knows how Charlie set up his whole thing, And I went to Paul. Paul helped me out of this plan. Just like that.

I was hung right up in it and using processing and looking at what it is, I e as isning it, as they say in scientology. I was able to be free from it. But Old Clem, Sandy Lynn and Gypsy there ain't no way they can get free from that. I mean, they could snuff Charlie out and they're still stuck to him. Very very interesting. And here's a little video from this amazing Manson movie that talks a little bit about the scientology wars and shit that were going on. I mean,

get me down here. While it's Barker's ranch, a man named Plockett and another drove it to the yard. Woman that I arrived, I met Rooks Poston. They were living in the house from the ranch, would go and stay in the cabin that was just to the left of the house. We would sit up and we began to hear about Charlie Paul that offered me a job to go up and down the mountains and to help him get gold word down from some minds that they had in that area. I got books to

go and work with me, and then Paul Watkins came. Every day we would go and inspect the old mind sight so old diggings, and I could explain to them what Charlie was doing, that it was ridiculous, it was idiotic, that it had no value whatsoever to them, and they decided to put Charlie and come and go with me. Later on, Charlie and the crew came back up to the desert. When we were there, I watched him and Crocket do this little dance with the gurus. They just seemed to

me that all stuff haack more reality than Charlie's. That was my way out. I had no one to go back to, and everybody I've been up with their families. Okay, so that's it on that. Now here's another little interesting thing that I found, and we're gonna, like I said, at the very end, we're kind of working our way to the beginning of the story. I just wanted to give you some tidbits I don't know. I haven't he just there, he goes, I threw myself out of there.

I hit the wrong one. I just wanted to give you guys some tidbits to show you the influence of scientology, to introduce you to the process. But we're we are actually going to get to Charles Manson by doing some backfooting here. And here's another little interesting thing, a slip by David Misscabbage where he actually you see that letter that I told you or that I showed you earlier before, and how Marie Terry himself, you know, who wrote

the Ultimate Evil. He was also getting fair game. We'll cover that in part two. As soon as Scientology gets wind that Manson, who they know is as scientologists you know, might be, might cause a pr flap. They set up all sorts of programs to get intel on the family and people. And part of that I don't think David miss Gabbage is too privy to that. This would have been in the sixties and maybe up to the early seventies, so he's not nearly as smart as and clever as Hubbard. This

is Hubbard's doing. And David miss Gabbage slipped up in one of the events and talked about the Processed Church, even though he didn't use the correct names. That either shows how clueless he is about the connection or that he's trying to kind of hide it. So let me show you this little clip. First of all, process history goes kind of like this, so they really let me just read this. This is Xtool. Extool is a small village in the state of Yucaton, Mexico. It is on the North Gulf of

Mexico. Blah blah blah. Okay, so it's in Yucaton, Mexico, and the village, like a few others, located on the Gulf coast, was a location where salt. Okay, that doesn't matter. Xtool is noted as a location where some thirty members of the Processed Church of the Final Judgment went in nineteen sixty six. They set up camp in an abandoned salt factory while they were hit with the Hurricane Inez. The resulting storm lasted for three

days. It was during this time that the basic theology of the Processed Church was formed and later written as the Extool Dialogues and again. The Processed Church of the Final Judgment documentary is on my bit shoot channel. There'll be a link in the description, so you can see the whole extool where they basically came up with their philosophy, and here's David MS. Gabage talking about it in an eclip. Was probably the best example of them. Can you pull

that back? Probably the best example of the viciousness of these false reports is a document written by David Forsythe who was posted in IRS intelligence branch. The report was written in nineteen seventy four and was to smear the church internationally and wipe it out. At the time the report was written, the church had coincidentally purchased a ranch in Mexico as a boarding school for the children of SEAWERG members in southern California. In other words, the ranch was occupied by six

year olds. But in forsyighte report, he stated a group of scientologists is currently training in guerrilla warfare near the town of Uxtall on the Yukaton Peninsula. Okay, that's obviously extall shows how misinformed he is. But there it is the Yucatan Peninsula. And I'm going to play that again because this is very interesting what he says. Maybe someone can decode it in the comment section afterwards.

But it's just an example of their interaction with these groups and having to deal with them, and what's up with him saying these six year olds on a ranch, you know, isn't that what Scientology does in their boarding schools? Just as Laura FM. Probably the best simple of the vicious nature of these reports is a document written by DiMAGE Foresight. It was posted in Irrest Intelligence Age There Were Course, written in nineteen seventy four and was an attempt

to smear the church internationally and wipe it out. At the time it was written, the church had finally purchased a Mexico as a boarding school for the children of Sea Org members in southern Califia. In other words, the ranch was occupied by six year olds. But in Forsight's report, he stated a group of Scientologists is currently training a ruler warfare near the town of Uxtall on the Yukatminsula. That grade those kids must have really been something. What a

sick fuck man while he's doing the same things to the other kids. Okay, turn this off, stand by you guys want to watch this instead. Okay, So one of the little thing to show you before we actually get into Charles Manson here, just another connection with Bruce Davis, the Processed Church, and to try to set some groundwork as we go forward so we don't get totally lost when we really jump into this. On this next article, throw the chat in over here. Sure you guys can read that. Okay,

stand by, Please draw on the music. We're gonna go for hip hop here. Come on, man, My transitions I thought were slow. So Manson seems to have stayed on Topanga Lane at the mouth of Topanga Canyon,

by the ruins of the Spiral Staircase. The Spiral staircase is where they first the family, when they were more innocent, first met the Process, and according to Charlie's own biography, that's when they kind of started to go crazy when they met members of the Process and we're witnessing what they were doing versus their innocent peace and love hippie type thing. That's according to Manson.

So I guess we have to take that with a grain of salt. But we do know that they first met the Process at the Spiral Staircase int Panga Canyon. The Spiral Staircase house, where Manson and crew had stayed a year previous, had subsequently been demolished. Manson was living in a blue bus parked by their ruins. Manson was seen at Thanksgiving dinner at Lane Wooton's house in

to Penga Canyon on November twenty eighth, nineteen sixty eight. Standby. In early December nineteen sixty eight, Manson sent sent ace Acidian this is Ed Sanders like talk trying to be cool. He's basically talking about acid head Bruce Davis on a trip to England where we spent around five months, including considerable time at the London headquarters of the process. The process had a London headquarter. It wasn't too far removed too far away from the London headquarters of what will

become Scientology's Saint Hile I Believe or East Grinstead. Little Paul described it as being a go to Rio and get me a coconut scene where Manson told Davis to take a trip around the world and report back whatever the case. Bruce Davis, with two traveling companions, journeyed to England by way of North Africa. There is also a story fitting about that Davis took a collection of five

hundred silver dollars over to England to sell. People that have intimate knowledge of the Tate la Bianca case was see an interesting possibility if in fact David did transport to Silver to Great Britain. So in London, Davis approached the Church of Scientology to pursue choruses of study. He was employed by the Church of Scientology for a short time, working in their mailroom. The Church of Scientology fired Davis after a couple of weeks when he wouldn't stop using drugs, they

say. According to a homicide investigator extremely close to the case, Bruce, Davis then began to hang out with the Processed Church of the Final Judgment at their Mayfair townhouse. Later, when he returned from London to the Spawn Ranch, David Davis was talking and whooping about the Hitler loving Satanic organization. Okay, so let's get into the man himself and start from the beginning. Okay, So we're gonna take a quick side bar here and we're gonna do something

and I'm gonna jump. I'm not moving this dial from this video. I just want to put something else in here real quick too. It's just a little bit more primer. So let me go ahead and get this out of here real quick and jump back in there in a second. All right, it's gotta find the right one. You know what happened? Oh yeah,

they did it there. All right, we need to get a little bit of this background here first, because when they start getting into the methods that these churches and whatnot are using and are kind of slowly showing us this, we can't lose sight of the fact that these are governmental programs that are informing these types of cults. And that's a huge element. You can't separate that from the mine control experiments and everything else is going on. So this kult,

the shocking Cold War experiments hidden by CIA. This is old BBC and it's only like seven minutes long, but we're gonna watch it. Ill give them a glass of kool aid, and so are the other children. This kool aid was spiked with LSD. It was horrible. In the early days of the Cold War, the CIA ordered the creation of a secret program intended

to find ways of mind control. They funded an army of psychiatric institutions across the United States and Canada to perform experiments on unsuspecting patients using psychedelic drugs, sensory deprivation, electroshock treatment, and warm The program was known by its code name MK Ultram. At the end of the Korean War, a number of

freed American POWs came home seemingly brainwashed and espousing Communist propaganda. American officials suspected that the soldiers had been subjected to what they thought were new Communist mind control techniques. Alarmed by the situation, the newly formed CIA allocated twenty five million dollars for psychiatric experiments on human beings. It was the most secret program ever

conducted by the CIA in the United States. Patients at psychiatric hospitals, prisoners and federal institutions, and even people in the public were given drugs without their awareness or consent and experimented upon. Initial projects within a gale true included Operation

Midnight Climax. They established what were called safe houses where prostitutes with more men to these apartments, and then once the men were in the apartments, they were dosed with LSD and then they were basically studied by CIA scientists, usually behind two way mirra. Another common practice was the hosting and observing of LSD induced parties with live music. These parties were called pacid tests, and the culture that grew out of them played a key role in the development of the

hippie and psychedelic movements. A few years later, however, some of the most damaging experiments occurred at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal, Canada. There, under the direction of infamous Scottish American psychiatrist doctor Ewan Cameron, unsuspecting patients, many of whom had common ailments such as postpartum depression, were experimented on with aggressive drug cocktails and extreme techniques. My father was a victim of doctor

Cameron. He was a twenty seven year old, healthy skier, Canuer, very athletic, and he had asthma. They told him if he went to the Allen Memorial they could cure his asthma. My father, Charles, was patient to doctor Cameron's. He had a trigeminal lourelgia that's called where there's a pain in the temple that radiates into the jaw that approently is cruciatingly painful. They told him that it was psychosomatic, which it's not, but in those days, what did they know. So they sent him to a shrink.

The shrink that he went to was working with Cameron, although we didn't know, so he put my father right into the program. I was having trouble with my parents, and my father and my stepmother decided to put me in the Allen Memorial Institute. They had no idea what went on in there.

I was sixteen when I was there. Doctor Cameron pursued a concept he called deepatterning, which was meant to reduce patients to an infantile psychological state, wherein doctors could take advantage of the person's cognitive vulnerability to attempt to rebuild their mind under the doctor's control. A popular method of choice to achieve this was called psychic driving. The day that my father was brought to the hospital, they

immediately put him on insulin to put him into like an insulent coma. They took clips from the interview with the shrink and put it on tape to run a loop under his pillow. While he was put into this sleep treatment. He also was put in an insulin coma for thirty six days with a recording beside him saying that your mother hates you, over and over and over and over and over. That was beside my bed constantly repeated two hundred and fifty

thousand and five hundred thousand times. Could you imagine in itself being an insulin and induced coma for thirty six days. Another common method was the use of extreme Page Russell electroshock therapy. Paid Russell shock treatment is approximately forty to seventy five times the strength of a normal shock treatment, so it's really designed to wipe out the memory. He received fifty four high voltage shock treatments, followed

by fifty four grandma seizures. After twenty seven days of this, they said that they were discouraged because he still had twice to his former life in that he was asking to see his wife. They decided to give him more page Russell shock treatments and put him to sleep for another thirty days. When patients were released from the Ellen Memorial, they and their family's lives would never be

the same again. Well, there's a lot I could not remember. After I got out of the Allen. When my family came, I was a zombie. I didn't even know who they were. He never came up the same. He had a blank, blank look at his eye. He didn't know who we were. He didn't know we were his daughters. He lost his job, we went into poverty. After he came out, he had said in his interview with the shrink that he was the apple of his zoil,

and after he came home he started beating me. Not long after, in nineteen seventy three, the mk Ultra program was terminated and some of the evidence of his activities was systematically erased. The whole thing was basically discovered because of a whistleblower named John Marx, who wrote the first book really about the program, called The Search for the Manchurian Candidate. There were congressional hearings here in the United States in the mid seventies after it and then exposed, and

during those hearings, the CIA finally admitted that this program existed. They admitted that it was probably not the right thing to do, but they famed innocence. Despite the congressional hearings and marginal interest in the subject in popular culture, most m cultural survivors suffered in silence, taking their trauma with them to the

grave. Today, having received no formal apology or compensation, the children of some survivors are pursuing a class action lawsuit against the institutions they beem responsible. No, the CIA knew that it was breaking you know, every moral, ethical, and legal law in the books to do these experiments. They all were behind it, they all knew what they were doing, but they weren't doing it out of care or love. They were doing it out of military

and political reasons. I am on medication now because of what happened to me when I was sixteen. No, I have not had any compensation or apology. I want everyone to know in Canada what went on in that horrible, horrible hospital. And that's not even bringing into sexual abuse. They would rape the people. Well, historians and survivors have exposed MK ultra. If that doesn't sound like a cult, you know, cult activity to you out of

yeah, I mean that's straight up the definition. Like the trauma, the torment, the drugging, the sexual abuse, all of that exploits to the world. Much remains unknown about its extent and wider impact. Given the highly sensitive nature of the program's activity, is likely this will remain the case for years to come. All right, we'll jump back over to that guy. Now, it's got to look at one more thing. Make sure I don't

want to add something else real quick. Now. I think the next two pieces that I want to add to this puzzle are going to be kind of lengthy, So we'll jump back onto this one here for a bit. We're about to get into the Manson stuff now, so like keep her into it more than just a passing mention. Actually, let's take a quick break here. See what you guys are in the chat? Come on, uh the what was that? The Daily Beast? And it's an amazing little gem of

reporting by him man talking about the connections that was the previous broadcast. I'll link that in the description as well. Yeah, neuram, I'm and you know full process thing that you saw. Those are the mcclerthy's and I'm going to leave a link in the description box because I believe they are having some trouble with their living arrangements. Arnie Lerma, the late Arnie Lerma rip. Maybe I'm forgetting someone, but I love these guys research and people that will

kind of give the bigger pawer. He died an untimely death, some say from smoking. He died in his fifties, and some say there's a conspiracy behind that. I don't know personally, but it's amazing that he wrote this in two thousand and four. And if you want a book that connects a lot of dots from the serial killers to what Neuram was talking about about the CIA covered ops, this whole area and the serial killers and the false memory

syndrome and all this incredible stuff. This is one book where you can really get a lot out of it. And if he was with us today, it would be amazing to have him update this and see what he can come up with, because it's one of the top books in my opinion, and a lot of people to start trying to understand this complex dot connecting maze basically. So enough rambling and back to this. So this is from Dave McGowan. I'll try to double back and fact out what that book is, because

now I want to read it, at least see what it is. Let me see if I can get this up a little bit more. No too much? Okay, here we go, make sure we're sent. Let me put this down here. Like I said, once I get the hang of this fucking thing, I'll stop babbling about all the shit that's going on over here. Charles Mills Manson was born no name Maddox, the son of an alcoholic teenage prostitute. His mother was imprisoned for arm robbery when Charles was just

a toddler, so the boy was sent to live with his grandparents. Following that, he lived for a time with an aunt and uncle in Virginia, who sent him off to his first day of school dressed as a girl, just as Henry Henry Lee Lucas's mother had done. By age eight, Charlie was back with his mother, who occasionally sent him off to stay with a moonshiner uncle. At age nine, he was sent to stay at the Gibralt

Home for Boys, a quote reform school in Cherry Hate, Indiana. Three years later, the pre teen boy was living alone in a single room at a boarding house until he was discovered by authorities. How he came to be living alone remained something of a mystery. From that point on, Manson spent the vast majority of his life institutionalized. I'm looking at something that says himself

housed at Boystown. Let's see what that's all about. So he's already getting set up in these government funded, shady ass schools, traumatized by being told to wear a dress, and perhaps this forms his narcissism and his desire to figure out a way to survive the abuse and rebel. I'm not justifying Manson's behavior at all, my friends' it's just interesting, Well you could perhaps see

why his formation and why he would be maybe become what he became. Charles next found himself housed at Boys Town, and that's an infamous place that's identified in the Franklin cover up as a cesspool of pedophilic operations. By the age of fifteen, Charles was no longer award of the state. He graduated to being a full fledged convict. In prison, the diminutive Manson was repeatedly raped and beaten by guards and fellow inmates until he managed to escape at the age

of six teen and binding his way to California. Dude, imprisoning people at that age, that's insane. And also we're talking about a history of sexual abuse rape from at least Boys Town on up into the rid into the jails, where that shouldn't surprise you that the the corrections officers are in on the raping. Why do you I mean, if that's a surprise you, you got to take a look at what the what the justice quote unquote justice system

and quote unquote corrections system is all about. It's a dark, dark place and there is no It's like hell because you can't turn to anything. Everything and everyone is just as evil. What a shitty way to start your life out. He was soon arrested again and sent to the rather omnous named National Training School for Boys in Washington, d C. A few years later, he was set free and married briefly and fathered child, who also worked as

a pimp. That occupation earned him a lanthly prison stay following a conviction for running an interstate vice ring. Seven years later, he was again set free after reportedly following Henry Lucas's lead by begging authorities at Terminal Island Prison not to release him. Now he gets out of prison at this point, and I want to show you some of the shenanigans before we get into his you know, him getting out of prison, what he was kind of getting up to

in prison right before his release. So let me pull this up here. Oop's wrong one funck. I might have fucked that last one up. Okay, So okay, does that work? I don't know why that's happening. Okay, So I'm just gonna put it. Oh, here we go again. Once I get these fucking settings down, we can start moving. So here's some of the things he was actually doing, and it kind of reminds me of Hubbard. Manson was many things, not just as scientologists. He

grabbed, like Hubbard, from everything, especially hypnotism and the occult. So it was while counting the days that mc weld done. I don't know if he's okay, Okay, yeah, I know he is about to read that part. I just wanted to make sure you didn't closs over it. This is all important, this first paragraph, Neil Eiland that Manson began studying music, warlockry, hypnotism, aftral projection, masonic lore, scientology, ego games,

subliminal motivation, music, and perhaps rose Acrusiism. Again, we showed you the kind of ven diagram of how rose accrusionism fits into scientology, especially here in its false Resicruciism too, by the way, that's as it's a Rosicrucianism in name only. It's a much darker thing than what one would even conceive of a mystery school or a secret society as being. And I can show you that the trail of that and the splintering off in the in the

the fabrication of such. If we go into the entire Book of Transhumanism, The History of a Dangerous Idea by David Livingstone. Hypnotism and subliminal motivation he seemed determined to use. He seemed to It actually comes up in Proofs of a Conspiracy by What do You Call It? By John Robison too. He discredits rescrutionism as just being a flimsy name on on a false u, as a false moniker determined to use it to affect control over others to his benefit.

One Prison Made of Manson of McNeil Island recalls vividly the great Charlie Manson headphones Caper. This is kind of funny shit that he was getting up to it practicing his hypnosis skills. That's another thing that you're going to see probably in part two, where he was definitely training and became kind of an expert hypnotist, just like Hubbard, because that's the best way to access the subconscious mind and easily take over some one's mine without their awareness. One Prison made

of Manson at McNeil recalls vividly the Charlie Manson headphone Caper. Utilizing the prison radio station, Manson planted what his cell partner called post hypnotic suggestions in all the prisoners at McNeal Island Penitentiary. Each prisoner had access to the station by means of headphones hanging on the bunk beds in the cells. Manson set up a clandestine scheme where by the radio station would broadcast messages at three am over

the headphones. The message or instruction was repeated over and over the prisoners. Three am is the witching hour two and if you get into that whole circadian rhythm thing and stuff like that, there are reasons certain things are done at certain times. Who were required to hang their headsets at night on the bedstand so that the messages were picked up by the sleepers but were not loud enough to attract the guards. The story continues that McNeil Island had a baseball team

or a basketball team that rarely won games. Manson beamed messages to the sleeping inmates urging them to get out into root for the McNeal Island team. Charlie then plays bets with the zealous new fans that the opposing team would win and quickly won himself two hundred frickin packs of cigarettes. The medium of exchange in

US prisons. Another was the applause caper. He planted suggestions over the earphones that everyone should keep applotting for Manson when he sang at a particular prison talent contest. Manson won the contest ear posed earphones down, evidently receiving a standing ovation of some duration of irony. Manson seems to have become a protege in prison, a probation gangster, a prohibition gangster. Alvin Creepy Carpus, a member of the Evil Ma Baker Gang which left fourteen victims dead Smat Barker.

Alvin Old Creepy Carpus taught Charlie to play this deal guitar and seems to have been a general counselor to the young man, although when interviewed after Manson's arrest, Carpus said that he had considered Manson the last man on earth to quote go into the mass murder business. Charlie was hooked on this new thing called scientology, says Carpas, he figured it would enable him to do anything or be anything. Maybe he was right. The kid tried to sell a lot

of other cons on scientology, but got strictly nowhere. Scientology is a reincarnationist religion that claims to train individual to experience past, live, to leave their bodies, et cetera, i e. Exteriorize, and to achieve great power and immortality, among other things. Manson learned about scientology from one Laneer Raymer, from Jeane Deaton, and from Jerry Millman, who was Manson's roommate at

McNeil Island Penitentiary. Laney or Ramier. According to Manson, followers had been active in the study of scientology and become a doctor of Scientology, an early rank in the movement now abolished. Raymer broke away from scientology and formed his own group. Also, I'm going to show you in part two how Raymer

was. Also there was a whole file kept on his ass because Scientology was again trying to keep intellent anybody had anything to do with Manson and scientology, and since Raymer is the one that introduced him to it, they had a whole record which I have from the church, that they kept on him.

If you didn't catch on yet, this, this guy who's doing this broadcast is a former if that is, if there's such a thing a former scientologist and reformed scientologists, I guess broke away from scientology and formed his own group. He was apprehended for a shotgun hold up and was sent to McNeil Island. Manson had told the jail house visitor that he received one hundred and fifty sessions. It's actually one hundred and fifty hours of processing in jail, evidently

from Lanya Ramer. And one hundred and fifty hours is a shitload of auditing. By the way, guys, I've definitely done thousands of hours, but one hundred and fifty is quite a bit and would definitely do something to your mind. Manson has contented and he's done thousands is what is he just admitting to her saying right there, that's kind of interesting. He did that he learned scientology methods very quickly because his mind quote wasn't programmed. But Manson was

not a product of scientology in any way. I would kind of disagree with that. Maybe you'll look, you'll see more as we go, and you make up your own mind. He merely borrowed a few ideas from it. Do scientologists call it squirreling, that is, borrowing and mutating scientology practices or methods. Manson picked up a fair number of scientology phrases and practices which he put into his own use when he began to reorganize the minds of his young

followers. Phrases like quote to mock it up and cease to exist and to come to now, and the concept of putting up pictures or mocking up pictures all seemed to have their origin and Manson's McNeil Island sessions with Lanier Raymer. Manson also studied Masonic lore and picked up some knowledge of Masonic hand signs, which later he would flash to judges during court appearances. Not a bad thing to do, but apparently it didn't work for Manson. He evidently learned something

about scientology recognition signals. Later in the area of Creepy Crawley Creepy Crawl Manson would develop his own complex system of hand and body signals, really a whole language of chop notation among his followers, and we showed in the series how

he did the ham mimicry something called c h's. I won't try to be crazy with the nomenclature, but communication control on having this was one of the drills where he'd run up to the kids on the ranch and he would have them, you know, he'd move around like he was like this amazing dancer, so to speak, and he would have people try to mimic or copy him. That came directly from scientology as well as theater, games and such,

which is probably where Hubbard sold it from. So getting back to this Sambi, please, within months, Charlie was playing his music in bars in San Francisco's tender Loin district. So again, he's out of jail. You've seen some of the antics and the training he was getting in jail, along with how to win friends and influence people and other things. And now he gets out and within months Charlie was playing his music in bars at San Francisco's

Tenderloin district and gathering a large and devoted group of followers. Now again, just real quick, guys, we covered in detail how his parole officer let me pull this off. Here. His parole officer was named Roger Smith, and I'm sorry his parole well, I don't the parole officer shit. And how he got out so quickly and was allowed to move to San Francisco is covered in the Summer of Syops episodes, and we'll be getting deeper into that

when we get into that but he didn't. He wasn't he didn't have permission to go to San Francisco, but he was being protected by his parole officer. Okay, back to this, Okay, So after he gets out, he's playing music at the Tenderloin district and gathering a large and devoted group of followers. In this free period of freedom, he lived with and associated with

hundreds of different people, many of them prominent in the entertainment industry. He made numerous contacts in the music business, including Dennis Wilson, Nil Young, and Terry Melcher, the son of Doris Day and the former occupant along with Candice Bergan at the Cielo Drive home where the tape murders occurred. Charlie even reportedly served as a religious consultant. That's actually not true about the monkeys and shit. There's a rumor that he auditioned for the monkeys, but that would

have been impossible because he was actually in prison at the time. He was also deeply involved in a number of criminal enterprises well before the consecutive blood blast that thrust him into the national spotlight. As author Joel Norris has noted, Charlie was a drug dealer and contract killer and had become involved in the underworld crime, murder for higher rings, and child pornography. More to say on

that when we get to the actual killings. Interesting enough, Manson has said that the family's most well known victims were involved in some of this same enterprises. Quote don't you think those people deserve to die? They were involved in kitty porn. Charlie had also had previously noted allied himself with various Satanic cult groups that, as Norris notes, were quote heavily based on ritual bondage,

sacrifice and also murder. You know, Charlie would have been the type of guy who would have known the deep dark secrets and goings on of these Hollywood elite type And if that's all he did was whack a bunch of child killers and child rapists, Hey, that's off to Charlie. According to Ed Sanders, who interviewed numerous members and associates of the family, Manson was also involved

involved in the production and distribution of snuff films. We'll get more into that, and that also ties into one of the shootings during the David Berkowitz spree that was filmed and used for the same purposes. This is so disturbing. Man again, and if this is all wrapped up into the same if this all criss crosses in an intertwined the way it is, hundred s Thompson might pop up. And this too, because we're talking about Boystown previously, even

though that was a little bit before the time frame that they're discussing. Now, we're talking about snuff films and child pornography and all this other stuff. All this stuff is orchestrated by the same people. So Hundress Thompson would have been involved with those people too. If what you know, what is his name? Russ and Bonanci have both said about Hundre s. Thompson being involved in them. You're just joining us trigger warning because this is kind of dark

shit that we're talking about here. In the aftermath of the Teton Lombianca murders, the LAPD, one of whom officers co owned the auto shop that Charlie lived in just a few months before the murders, couldn't really be bothered with the wealth of evidence that implicated family members in the murders. The department also refused to acknowledge and examine the obvious connections between the two murder scenes, severely

hampering the investigation. They likewise refused to explore the connections between the murder of musician Gary Hinman and the other two more high profile crimes. The La Sheriff's Department had already sawd the Hyman case no thanks to the LAPD, and had taken Bobby Bousselat into custody just a few days before the tape murders. The sheriff knew of his connections to the family and of the connections between the three

crime scenes. Two motorcycle gang members with close ties to the family, Al Springton and Danny DeCarlo, the Strait Satans, had given the sheriff's damning testimony concerning the family's involvement in all three murders. To Carlo, who was reportedly a member of the Processed Church, appears to have provided security for Charlie and

the family. He kept a large arsenal of weapons at the family compound, including a three to zero three British an Enfield rifle, a twenty two rifle, a twenty gage shotgun at thirty caliber carbine, at twelve twelve gauge riot gun, an M one carbine and submachine gun the family, it should be noted operate as the hippie cole that they have been portrayed as being their base of operations was more of a paramilitary compound than it was a commune, complete

with guard shacks at lookout points, telescopes, walkie talkies, military field telescopes, and converted dune buggies equipped with machine gun mounts. And also remember there on the Spawn Ranch, which is a movie set, which is quite interesting as well. When the sheriffs pass along to the LAPD the information they had

obtained from their informants, LA's finance proceeded due absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, on September one, nineteen sixty nine, just a few weeks after the Tate murders, a twenty two caliber revolver was found in Sherman Oaks and turned into the LAPD. The gum was a rather rare and unique firearm and just happened to match the description of the weapon suspected of being used in the killings, right down to the broken handle that provided a perfect pit for the handle pieces that

were recovered at the murder scene. Nevertheless, the department tagged and filed the web and it was promptly forgotten for months. The department later sent out a flyer with the photo of the weapon, failing to realize that they had already had the gun in custody. Bumbling idiots or is this planned? It took

or as Charlie being protected. It took a phone call from the father of the boy who had found the gun to get the department to acknowledge its existence, and even then the caller was initially told that the gun had probably been destroyed. That's like the most important piece of evidence and it seems like it

got brushed off elsewhere. Family member Susan Atkin had been arrested on unrelated charges and was spending time in the Civil brand Institute for Women, and as we know, while there, she gave detailed confessions of the murder to at least two fellow inmates. She claimed that the family had already committed eleven murders and quote many more were going to die. Both of these women tried to pass this information along the LAPD, but both were repeatedly denied permission to do so.

This was in spite of the fact that one of the female jailers to whom these reporters were made his requests were made, was at the time dating one of the Tate case homicide detectives. Just to throw this in here too, when he said something about the gun being destroyed. This is a common thing when those who we consider our public officials, the ones that are supposed to be, you know, carrying out the law because apparently we can't do

that for ourselves. They did the same thing with Kurt Cobain. The the police of Seattle allowed and right in front of like they was they were incinerating the murder web. Well, yeah, the murder weapon, not the suicide weapon, but the murder weapon, the rifle or the shotgun, whatever they said it was. Yeah, they let they let Courtney Love do that.

She also had ties into all types of my control type stuff. One of those she was very over sexed as a young child, and she was wrapped up in a lot of messed up stuff, a lot of mind control stuff. So yeah, she had CIA written all over her. And whatever they did, she knows people, and they knew her, and it was a protection thing. It didn't matter how freaking clumsy and stupid she was about it.

One of the inmates later said, quote, it was the hardest thing I've ever tried to do in my life to get anyone to listen to me. It would appear then that the labd had, among other evidence, all the following at their disposal, the eyewitness account of a participant in the crimes, the gun used in the crimes, and the statements of too close associates of the killers directly implicating them in the crimes. Yet they chose not to

act on any of this for a period of several months. Though no serial killer slash mass murder in history has likely achieved the level of notable, So basically what that means is he wasn't the guy that they had gone out to do that stuff, wasn't done doing the job that he had to do, so they could have and to pull him in, yet because he still had

work to do. Those who'd moved the hands of these mechanisms weren't weren't budging yet variety or generated the volume of media coverage that Charles Manson has, many of the most compelling facts the Manson case remained largely unknown to the public. A particular significance, perhaps, are the myriad levels on which the killers and the victims were connected. One of these connections was provided by none other than Anton Levey. At least one of Charlie's girls, known locally as the Witches

of Mendocino, was recruited for LaVey's Church of Satan. Susan sexy Sadie Atkins was one of many dancers in Labay's stable, collectively known as the Topless Witches. Review Atkins later credited Levey was starting her down the road to murder. Family member Bobby Bousela, who was a roommate and by some accounts, a lover of Child's star turned underground filmmaker Kenneth Anger, was also recruited from the Church of Satan. Interestingly enough, LaVey had connection to the victims as well.

He had formed a close association with Roman Polanski shortly before the murders, when he served as a technical consultant for Roman Polanski on the film Rosemary's Baby, in which he also made a cameo appearance as who Else Satan. We talked about this in a video that I did with Marcus where we talked about

John Travolta and Tom Cruise and how they got involved in scientology. And the very first movie that John Travolta ever did was called The Devil's Reign, and there's a picture of him with his arm around Anton LaVey that you can see in that where he also was consulting on that maybe you have to do a Satanic movie or something to get your jump in Hollywood, because right after that

he got welcomed back cat her. Interestingly enough, Leavey had connections. Okay, so we covered that on the set of an earlier film, Tate herself. Let me turn the music down a little bit here. Check in with you guys, because I feel like I'm just rambling. Ah, but you're not rambling, sir. Okay, right there? What about April thirtieth, I'm not sure what you mean, Vegan. Can you please clarify that's him? The dude doesn't even feed his flock. This gets worse, Yes,

it does. Okay, get the music turned down a little bit. Continuing on on the set of an earlier film, Tate herself. This is Sharon. Tate had reportedly been initiated into the into witchcraft by Alexander Saunders Sammy Davis Junior, who was introduced to the Church of Satan by Manson. Victim j Sebring has said of the victims who were killed at Tate's Yellow Drive residents quote everyone there had at one time or another been into Satanism. Some newspapers,

some newspaper reports at the time of the slayings denounced the sensationalism. Were rife with reports that the Philansopies were Satanists who hosted drug and sex orgies. I don't know if they were Satanists, but they definitely did host those orgies. And shortly before the actual murders, they had a whipping down of one of the people over a drug deal gone bad at the house, and there was

many, many people there to watch that. They got up to some funky shit, and they also found sex tapes with famous Hollywood celebrities at the Tate Polanski residence, but they mysteriously disappeared after that once they got into the police's hands. Of course, think were and this again points to this not just being about a bunch of random, disorganized cult members detached from any other type

of influence. It has all the markings of an institutional, systemic problem that you know, expresses itself or manifest itself occasionally as a cult, But it's really just a reflection of what's going on inside of these hidden communities within our system. And we can talk about the government programs, and I'm not talking about your government cheese. I'm talking about the clandestine operations, the strangeness that they do on public rituals and also public experiments. You know, what do

you think the acid was all about? You know, wide scale experimentation to erode the walls and then have a culture right there ready for you to replace what you once had morality and reshape you forever, so that they could erode a road to road for every decade to follow. So I'm not saying that this is no I am saying that this isn't just a cult. It's not just a bunch of crazy people that went through a shitty life and YadA YadA. No, this is guided And these tapes, these these are these are

blackmail tapes. So they had to get those out of there, blackmail tapes that they probably didn't destroy. I'm sure they just got to where they could be, you know, secure if ever needed. Indeed, just days before the murders, Oh here we go, a drug dealer was reportedly filmed being whipped at the house in an SNM ritual. Various celebrities were said to have been in attendance. Actor Dennis Hopper spoke in interviews of statistic movies filmed at

the house that featured some of Hollywood's biggest names. Gee, where we heard this shit before Rings of Epstein anyone? Another connection was provided by the Essalon Institute, and I think we touched upon this in the last one. They quote New Age Retreat and Monterey with ties to Crowley enthusiasts. Did he say, Esslon, we're talking about Terrence mc kennet, like all these people.

It's I have to just read the entire Transhumanism book to you. I just because he outlines all of this stuff and more, I mean, not into greater detail. Like if you could take so many of those topics though, and just say, okay, I want to I want to research this, and you'd have a wealth of, you know, things to do because all the other little tiny points are put together for you so you know where to start looking. And it's like helps just focus your research. It's really really

cool. So what was I writing here? Hold on a second. Oh yeah, Tara Tinao defended Polanski and you did it multiple times, but he definitely did it on a very infamous Howard Stern that I played a couple videos ago. I'm not sure how long ago it was, but yeah, you'll ye up. I get hit plan on this one. Timothy leary like mind, Timothy Leary's like minded Himalaya Academy. See how everything connects to everything else? I think we covered Timothy Leary as well. And then that also ties

into Alvis Huxley too, who we talked about a couple episodes back. Manson had ties to both. He had in fact visited Esslon, where Robert de Grinstead of the Processed Church reportedly lectured occasionally. Just a few days before the Tate killings. On the very day of the murders, someone from within the Polanski home placed a call to the institute. For reasons unknown, one of the victims, Abigail Folger, may have visited the retreat just a few days

before Manson's visit. And we're also going to get into Hubbard too, And this is kind of a piece of it about how again everything connects to everything else. Author Robert Heinlein was also reportedly invited to lecture at Esslon. Heinleine, who like Hubbard, first gained notice petting pieces for astounding science fiction is probably best known as the author of the nineteen sixty one novel Stranger in a

Strange Land. The book provided Mancy with Manson with a Mancy Nancy. The book provided Manson with the Crowley inspired script to follow, and it was one of the few books that Charlie allowed his disciples to read. Heinlein was a right winger with strong authoritarian leaning, who to this day nevertheless continues to be promoted by various voices in the progressive community. Another link between the Principles and the case was provided by singer Mama Cass Elliott. This is will tie into

the Laurel Canyon scene in the next video. Victims voytech Forrakowski and Jay Sebring, who had a history of Sadism, were both part of Cass's click, as were Manson and some of his followers. Cass Elliott was sort of had parties at her house just like they did at Cielo, and was known as Mama for a reason. She was looked up to by most of the people in the Laurel Canyon scene and was known as sort of the mother figure.

Victim Abigail Folder may have been as well. Folger had been known to be friends at time with Charles Manson himself as well as with convicted Cotton Club killer Bill Menzer, and that ties into when we get into the Son of Sam stuff in New York. For the Lad's top initial suspects and the tape murder case were members of Cass Elliott's inner circle. They remain, including Terry Melcher by the way, who's That's another story for another time. They remained prime.

They remained prime suspects for the first month of the investigation. One member of that circle was Pick Dawson, the flamboyant son of a US military State Department official and on and off boyfriend of Cass. Dawson had lived in the house of victims Freykowski and Folger in the summer before the killings, while the ill fated pair house sat for the Polanski's and the future crime scene. You

kind of have to be a masochist. I'm not saying to say this, but you had to kind of be a masochist to be a boyfriend of Mama Cass, don't you. One zero zero five zero CLO Drive later renumbered appropriate enough one zero zero six six CLO Drive. Another connection between killers and victims was provided by their shared interest in drug trafficking several and we talked about in one of the videos how Alron Hubbard Jr. Would talk about his father's drug

importations as fund helping to fund scientology. We're linked to the traffick link. Let me read that back, including vortec Forrakowski, Abigail Folger, and Sharon Tate herself were linked to the trafficking of hallucinogens. Rosemary la Bianca was a known trafficker of meth amphetamine and likely other drugs as well. Forkowski had reportedly secured a deal just before the murders that would have made him an exclusive distributor

of m DA in the LA area. His operations financed with coffee eRASS soldiers considerable financial resources. Jay Sebring, who before the murders, had once appeared in an underground movie that also featured Mansonite. Bobby Boussel, appears to have evolved in the drug trade as well, and there's some speculation that Sea Brings Hairstyling Place was just sort of a kind of a front for those drug transactions. A man named Joel Rostau is known to have delivered drugs to Seabring at

the Coiello House just hours before the murders. Rostau was found murdered the next year in New York City. Another Seabring associates showed up dead just a month later in Florida. Immediately following the killings on Coiello Drive, Seabring's house was thoroughly cleaned by friends before police arrived to conduct a search. The Manson family was also heavily involved in drug dealing, including trafficking in LSD, Hashish,

marijuana, and cocaine. Just a couple of days after the killings, Mansion was seen driving a black Mercedes Benz, possibly owned by an underling of a man named Ronald Stark. Around that same time, Stark assumed the role of banker for the quote Brotherhood of Eternal Love, a tax exempt church that was

formed by a motorcycle gang with close ties to Timothy Leary. That's the tune in, tune out and whatever the hell you know guy that kind of started all the shit, whose quote is saying that the CIA was responsible for the sixties basically, and he was an asset. Yeah, he most certainly wasn't that. So he was straight up cee A. He was also Ordo Templey Orienttis. This Crowley is crolling, crawling all over this. If you know the connections to this, he inspired the modern age, yes, but like

directly specifically. These people are followers studiers of Alisair Crowley. Hmmm, this might be a good time to show a little video clip. So the Brotherhood

was led by a man named Farmer John Grills. I feel like I've been reading forever, so I will show you a little bit another movie clip, and we can they will show you a little bit more about the brotherhood, Brotherhood of eternal Love and such, and we'll kind of be able to take a break here without me just sitting here reading, and I can riff off of some of the things that are in this little documentary. So let me play this for you guys. It's about a ten minute thing, and then

we can jump off. We can jump back to where we were. That's what I like to do. Commentary, smooth, smooth transition. Commentary is always nice. I mean, reading's fine too. I don't mind doing the reading part either, And you'll have, as they say in scientology, the

mass on the subject, rather than just some idiot endlessly reading. This speculates on how Manson was a CIA asset and how he came to be able to control his flock with his incredible hypnotic powers, and by asset that by no means has any That doesn't mean you're of an official, official capacity, nor are you a master of your own destiny. You're not like somebody with a title in an office space. That don't don't get that in your head.

It just means you're manipulated and used by these people, and you're aware that you're being used and manipulated because as affording you opportunities for things that you want. However, the most curious, troubling aspect of Manson was his inexplicable ability to control minds of his followers. They called themselves family him and went and the number of aid from twenty to thirty. Police said they were a pseudo

religious culture. Manson used some of the same mind controlled techniques to see how developing at the time under project in Ultra. I want to know if there's a tie in between this family and we already know the processed church part, but David Bergs Children of God, because that'll tie into all the like a lot of the Hollywood cult activity in a different era and in a different area,

I should say, because these are all overlapping. But the children of God that would put us back into the you know, the family of the River Phoenix and and all that. That that conversation again and another insight into what went on with depth undress Thompson and all that other stuff. Just hypnotism plus d trauma and other types of bental conditioning to turn disaffected suburban sides into

brand killers. But where did he learn such skills? Deeper inspection. The whole story reeks of an intelligence operation, especially to the failiar with the CIA's session with Mind. A former Man family member described medicine's intent to systematically kidnapped programmed children takes some relindious organization called out into the world. This one's chopping crazy hard. I guess he's not hearing that on his end, But that's

how it recorded. It's not my computer. It's just the way his recording ended up on his stream. If it's like that and it's psychic driving you into into insanity too, then we'll have to uh love to bip gip ahead a little bit on this. Let me just give it a few seconds. Charlie wanted to use the fountain as a basic headquarters to go out and kidnap kids. Bring them there program. They just showed eleven, which is interestingly

enough, eleven is a number of magic. Right. Yeah. If this keeps doing this though, we can't listen to it like this, well that's okay. Here's another connection. And he wants to he wants to kidnap children. This is one of Charlie's plans. This is the same guy who said something about they are all pedophiles. They would you really care if they were dead? But it sounds like he's grabbing children for this various purpose. Section the Fountain of the World cult. Let me see if I can find this.

Okay, so check this out, So lose the camera again. Okay, So this again is from Ed Sanders book again link at the description box. You can get a whole bunch of free books from pdf. And this is an amazing read. By the way, another input into the mind of Manson was provided by a religious cult, the Fountain of the World, located west of the Spawn Ranch and Box Canyon near the San and Susannah Fire Department. He was very impressed with the fountain and spent a lot of time visiting

it. Charlie was basically trying to form his own cult in his own religion. This is why he would send Bruce Davis and people off on missions to try to set up his own churches. And he was sort of He was involved in so many different cults, not least in the Hayte Ashbury scene when this was a thing, and with his mind he was trying to formulate his

own cult. The Fountain of the World, a religious sect dedicated to quote peace through love and service, or so the sign on the hill above the cult corner Reeds, was an apocalyptic Christian cult that held public meetings every Saturday night. Several of the Spawn ranch Hands, including Shorty Shay, were associated with the Fountain of the World. Ranch Hands would attend the Fountain's religious meetings

and group songs sessions. Manson and the family occasionally attended these meetings. A black guy named John was involved in the leadership at the Fountain of the World, and Manson several times hungered to take the place over. When I hear apocalyptic Christian cult, I immediately think crypto Francists at the helm of something like that. That sounds very forced the hands of God Zionists in a sense, but in a different light. You go the cult members wore robes and practiced

celibacy. Charlie assigned some of the girls to try to seduce the priests of the order, evidently to no avail. The Fountain was formed by a holy man named Krishna Venta, who died by violence. The family grooveed with the violent history of the Fountain. The religious retreat occupied subterranean chambers and caves, wherein they did their thing. As the cult progressed, dissension ensued and parties unknown blew up the founder, Christiana Venta, and nine of his followers with

forty pieces of dynamite placed in the catacombs. This occurred on twelve ten, nineteen fifty eight. Where after the fountain struggled onward and was still thriving when Manson. So it struggled onward and was still thriving when Manson discovered it. Charlie seems to have gotten the idea for his crucifixion ceremony from the Fountain of the World. There was a large rock at the Fountain of the World that looked remarkably like a huge skull. At the top of the skull was a

wooden upright cross. Fountain members so one is told, were wont to strap themselves up on the cross for penitential meditation sessions. Far out man not far from the Spawn ranch, the family discovered an almost secret clearing guarded by the natural surrounding wall. Of the large wall of large boulders. On one side of the clearing was a hill, the Hill of Martyrdom. For upon this hilly bowlder shouldered secret clar was performed perhaps the world's first outdoor LSD crucifixion ceremony.

And any of you guys that know the Manson story know that he, you know, part of what he did was pretend to be Jesus and actually actually acted out this cross ceremony minus the nails. There they snuffed Charlie and the role of Jesus strapping not nailing him to an actual rustic cross, while others, acting as tormentors and apostles, jeered or wheeped. One chosen female was Mother Mary, cloaked and weeping at the foot of the cross. Then

they fucked, evidently after some form of resurrection service. Na August at nineteen sixty eight, part of the family spent about a week living at the Fountain of the World. There's talk that Manson gave about two thousand dollars of the money given to the family by Juanita to the fountain. At some point in its development, the family PARTICKI. The girls began to say Amen, Amen

whenever Charlie spoke, as if his words were divine. Manson began to formulate obstin's task tests for his followers, as when he was told Sadie it's obedience tests gluts during a meal to go get him a coconut, even if she had to go clear to Rio. She executed an about face and she trotted off to Rio. This is the power that he had over his flock. However, after a few steps he called her back another time. It's just like being under hypnosis. Manson programmed these people, and when he told him

to do something, it doesn't matter how ridiculous it is. It's just like giving a hypnotic command to the subconscious and you act on it, no matter how ludicrous. And there are stories of him actually sending people all across the world to just for the hell of it, man, just to see if

they're under command. I'm thinking of a story of what l Ron Hubbard and one of his hypnosis things he had a man put his hand on a bar, and he would tell him, he would suggest to him that he it's getting hotter and hotter, and he's gonna die if he if he doesn't take his hand off. But he can't take his hand off. And the guy was just sitting there and torment until Hubbard finally released the post ichnotic command. She executed a bow. Okay. However, after a few days he called

her called her back. Another time in a meeting at the Fountain of the World, when he was trying to impress the Fountain members with the with the obedience of his followers, he instructed Little Paul to go spend a week on the cross, which Little Paul darted off to do, but the wizard Manson showed mercy and called them back. Okay, Jesus Christ, Okay. So that's it. On that we will go back to this right where we were, with the added bonus of a little bit of music in the background.

Check in with you guys, see how you're doing. Blazes his career, that am I on here? Yet if you compare that with Tom O'Neil's book. He goes into great detail about how Bogliosi was full of shit, and how much he actually lied in his book, it's quite astonishing. And what a psychopath Bogliosi was too. Not only did he make up a lot of the story to fit his own agenda, but he was a very crazy person.

I don't know, Mark, how many cults does it take to change the light bulb, Lady Veritas, there seems to be a blueprint throughout human history. It's hard to tell one corruption from another. Makes you wonder who's really pulling the strings? Okay, exactly. That's kind of why we're hammering on the sixties and shit, lady, because I don't think the world and the way that things operate have necessarily changed. I just think they'd become more

perfected. And what do they say, if you don't learn from your past, you know, you're found to repeat it or some shit like that. Well, here we are, okay, carrying on just a couple of days after the killings. Okay, I think we covered that. Okay, so we covered Oh back to the freakin' movie. Sorry, So we were jumping off of here where the Brotherhood of the Eternal Love is going to play a role in this little documentary that I might as well finish playing here too.

This is just a quick way to kind of understand what the hell this is all about. Manson maintained a seemingly endless supply of Druss for his cult, including the rare strain of LSD called Orange Sunshine, which exclusively from him, known as the Brotherhood of Eternal. Obviously, isn't a professionally done documentary. Really, I'm sorry for the music, but at least the information is here

known to have well established connections to the central intelligency. Well, we took hundreds of trips together with Charlie. He actually did almost like drug programming. Conspiracy researchers that delate Manson was sort of programmed new created by the CIA and set loose against what was seen as a new and subversive self society. Ensign's neglectful and traumatic childhood would certainly have made him a likely mind controlled candidate.

He was incargrated at Vaucaville State Inn, where CIA spooks were recruiting MK ultra test subjects at the time. I want to hear something interesting, So you just said Vaucaville State Prison right now, How the hell does scientology get itself into the prison system. All we have to do is ask Robert von Jung, let me see if I can pull this up. So check this out. They had a system. I need to explain this a little bit before

I pulled this up. We talked about in the Raising a Secret Society series how me and my dad used to grade lessons from inmates via a front group by Scientology called Criminon. Before that that that started before q Andon. There

was Criminon Frown in the seventies. Before that, they would get Scientology into prison systems through differently named but still using the same procedure as Criminon and Robert von Jung, who has since spoken out, and he's featured on one of the episodes called The Bridge to Total Amnesia, where he's actually demonstrating to a

news crew how the trs work after he wakes up. He was actually at Vaucaville, and he gives us some a little bit of intel on how I don't think there's not much of a difference, by the way, between Scientology programming and m k Alta programming, so it's basically the same thing. And this is how he kind of gets They get him into the prison system under the nose of the guards and ship see this is what I'm saying, And

where did these come from? El Ron was I'm not sure how deeply into naval intelligence he was in, but he was obviously into some sort of secret society or type of religious sect that would have given him the proper clearance, as per Bill Cooper who says, you don't get very far and you definitely don't get picked for naval intelligence unless you are a Freemason, be a Mormon, or something in those lines like Oddfellows something like that. Right, So

he was created. I see al Ron Hubbard as being created and put out there in the public to do what he did and allow access because they were so clumsy, like Operations snow White, which I don't even think they're going to discuss tonight because this is about Manson, not about the scientology aspect. But they they blatantly do things that should put them all in jail forever and

it doesn't happen. So how does that not work? How does it that they have the ability to I mean, some people falls, and people don't.

They just keep moving on, you know. And I would think that Crowley would have disagreed that he was the successor, even though he may have claimed that Hubbard was disliked by Crowley and disappointed he Crowley was disappointed with JPL founder Jack Parsons too because he was saying that he's going to get taken that not to trust Hubbard, and you know when when he did end up losing his money and his girlfriend, Crowley was a little disgusted with his soft headed

his his his soft minded fool of a friend who prior to that, he said, should have been the only person to take over the Agape Lodge because he was the most qualified for the OTO. So Parsons was in favor, high favor, strong favor of Crowley until he got duped by a by a douchebag who you know went out into the sand dunes with him and jerked off to try to get the Babylon working gone. So. An ex intelligence officer for Scientology, Robert von Jung said, I was at staff at the Davis

franchise from nineteen sixty nine until nineteen seventy one. Well, because of the work that I was doing in Davis, I started to do some public relations work as well as some other staff positions there, meeting the media. I was also running a program in Vaucaville Prison, which is a medical facility that's just west of Sacramento, happens to be the one where Charlie Manson was kept for a long time that I would go in every you know, every week

and hold the class in scientology. We know Ted Kaczynski was also a victim of the mk ulture project, and it's discussed in those episodes that I told you about, and I'm sure you guys know the prison's top level universities, including UCLA Stanford University, which is where the murder of Arles Perry when we get to David Berkowitz plays in. They were experimenting with people's minds in you know, completely illegally, in Project mk Ultra. That's what it was all

about. And when they were finally it was so compartmentalized nobody knew about it. But ironically l Ron Hubbard did in a nineteen fifty one book called Science's Survival. He tries to quote unquote expose mk ultra because somehow he was hip to this shit and mk ultra wasn't officially foreign until it trained in the shit. Right, He's going to probably say fifty two, but cybernetics was going

on before that Curley was around. He Cury died in forty seven. All these things that they're accrediting to the paper Clip when it comes to mind control, that's bullshit. If you look at what Curley wrote, if you look at what they did and practice, all those techniques were being done by him long before there was any talk about paper Clip. They already had that information. He was already British intelligence at the time. So it's not true it's

mostly curly stuff. It's Cruellianity. April of nineteen fifty three coincidence, are not Scientology Peak became incorporated in Camden, New Jersey in December of that same year, nineteen fifty three, and since that one didn't take off very well, in February of nineteen fifty four, they set up their real headquarters where

it did kick off, in Los Angeles. Sorry for the ramble. Hopefully you can see how the project down KULT was so compartmentalized that it wasn't known about until nineteen seventy four when they had congressional and state hearings, and even then only a fraction of the information survived and ninety five percent of it was destroyed. And even then The number of projects that they did on unwinning people is incredible. So how big was the fucking project really? And the big

question is is it still going on today the whole country? And yet now it's an open laboratory called America and everyplace else. So here we go back to the if they can poison your food, water, and air and hit you with electronic frequencies and radio ways to stifle and suppress your thoughts, ideas, trigger emotions and hormones, what the hell do you think would you call that? Would you not call that an experiment? What about legal highs?

Legal highs like I don't know, bath salts, MDPV methyloleene. Right, they make it legal, you buy it with a credit card online, They know where it's going to and if they want to monitor you, they know how to do that. So if they want to mess with you and see how much of that they can, who knows was there nano and that stuff that you're snorting? Little documentary researchers can only speculate as to what brainwashing Manson

might have received. How what he certainly seems on board with the agenda. You're gonna have one world government. We've gotta have a world course that can do don't face in the world, that you can get away from in the beans. I know that that is probably a long way away. Might be well, she as many as I can't. I'm gonna value this God. I'm figuring about fifty me, about fifty million. I mean, I might be able to shave my trees and my air and my water and my wildlife.

But it was his taught to a Satanic cult that researchers believe ultimately motivated the tape murders. We have a weird im say, A scene described by one investigator is reminiscent of a weird religious rite. Five persons, including actress Sharon Taday, were found at the home of Miss Tate and her husband, screen director Roman Polanski. According to author Bari Terry, Manson was affiliated with

the process's church, spinning to the wolfs time at the cult. Again, guys, if you're watching this, that's not me, that's his recording and playback rude from his life stream. I can't stop those pops and stops and clicks and breaks old and borrowing ideas that would become part of his helter Skelter theology. There are people that maintained Manson learned everything he knew the process,

like the apocalyptic ideas that they preached. For a lot of the guys who was interested in study and clearing your mind, that where silent anthology, and then it got to be the John Todd spoke of man's affiliation with the process search Manson, the brother that he belonged to is called the process and claimed its murder was a cult sacrifice. That's what the taste were about. The other ship to be there. She wanted out and you don't get out Sharon

okay, a was a witch's kidding. Sharon Tate won out. But the theme is, no, I don't know what's up with him. It's still ticking. I don't think he knows that it's off. He's anybody who was in witchcraft doing that time tired the same thing. If you remember she was, she was still one leg was thunder from the raptor and hands behind her. His tot slashed sofa. There was a tow seventy eight CODs and a tower deck. You look at the twelf major otane one, it's looked it

looked like a handman. That's exactly how Sharon Tate LaBianca was left still don't know. I don't think he knows that he's not, that he's muted or something. They were everywhere, rope tied twice around. Sharon Tate's neck was looped over a beam and tied around, Filling Manson's commands to leave something witchy. I said, if you're gonna something, leave something witchy, just tack out what you are you. If you're going to do something, do it

well and leave something witchy. Yeah, I don't know. It's up with this part of his production here with it keeps the reason that the capitation was a family project. Some torture and some bury the pieces. Family member Susan Atkins describe the group's ritual sick. All right, we're gonna have to just push your head on this because this is a irritating your time. And if

we miss anything. I can play it back a little bit because because it says someone says here the sound is skipping, So please let me know the sound is skipping. Does this work any better? My friends? Let's take it back a little bit. I said, if you're good, wanna do something, leave something witchy? Okay, what tell you if you're gonna do

something, dude, it least something witchy. Only later the world discover the true horrors that had been taking place within the Manson's demented family Together Love, Together Together, Why Shorty shags the condition with a highlight project some torture? Okay, it's too bad, apparently, I don't know why it's skipping so much. I wonder if the other ones were, So we'll skip that, but I'll leave a link in the description box so you guys can check that

out and we'll get back to what we were freaking reading. That sucks, man, I'm gonna have to figure that out. Okay, So you guys saw the stuff on the Brotherhood of the Eternal Love. You got a basic idea, and like I said, you can cheer out the whole documentary, which goes into also the Jim Jones cult. It's skipping so bad, I'm

gonna have to jump sorry, Andrew a bit better. Okay, doesn't look like it's working that well, so we'll just go ahead and read this shit stand by please, Thank God. I will figure that out in the future. Okay, get a little bit of music going in here, stand by, please. This is just lovely. Shit, isn't it guys, Jesus hang on a second, need to see a fucking puppy. After this, the death of Griggs resulted in a massive shakeup at the organization that resulted in

the shadowy Stark becoming the Brotherhood's sole banker and money manager. Under Stark's guiding light, the Brotherhood became the largest known producer and distributor of LSD in the world, reducing some fifty million doses. Stark was also closely linked to a parallel acid producing operation in the UK dubbed the micro Gang, which likewise produced

millions of hits of LSD in the early nineteen seventies. While running his empire, Stark was known to have extent how much money do you make when it's like, I don't know what boys back then, but it's like what a dollar three dollars a hit? Like what that's like the get rich slow scheme, get into cocaine or something. So contacts with American embassy personnel and to

have frequent visitors from both the British and the American consulates. And as you saw in that documentary, or maybe not because it was so skippy, there was cia connections to the to the Brotherhood of Eternal Love, which was the

main acid producer during this time. Were the Manson's killings. In reality, part of what might be dubbed the Great Acid Coup of nineteen sixty nine, were the result of an operation aimed at, among other things, killing off some of competitors, intimidating others, and consolidating control of the hallucinogenic drug market. The possibility clear exists. The police originally were drawn to the theory that

the killings were drug related. Other early theories were that the killings were occult inspired, or that the true motive could be found in what was dubbed fame porn. Perhaps It's all of them. Films and videos found at the Polanski home suggested in an elite Hollywood wife swapping operation. The folder for Krakowski home also yielded a box of erotic photos of Hollywood's elite. Would that be maybe for blackmail material? There were also indications of the involvement of organized crime in

the killings. Leo LaBianca had known underworld connections, to whom he reportedly owed nearly two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in gambling debts at the time of the murders of LaBianca home, which I must add, perhaps gratuitously, was once owned by Walt Disney, was known to have its phone lines tapped. I could also add here, perhaps rather gratuitously, as well, that Walt Disney was a direct descendant on his mother's side of George Burrows, the quote Grand

Wizard of the Witches executed in Salomon sixteen ninety two. One mistaken impression that many people have about the Manson case is at the homes where the attacks took place were largely chosen at random. That was hardly the case. Manson was very familiar with the Polanski Tait home, which he had visited in the past.

Manson knew both the owner of this Dielo Drive home, Rudy Albelly, I'm probably not pronouncing that, right Alta Belly, right, Alta Belly, and the previous tenant, Terry Melcher, who along with Charlie, was involved with the Processed Church, as was John Phillips. That's Papa John Phillips, who was the uh one of the singers and the mamas and the papas along

with cass Elliott. And he's the father of Bju Phillips. Who is the wife of convicted rapist Danny Masterson cass Elliott's bandmate and another associate of Manson. Charlie was familiar with the LaBianca. How home was well, it was right next door to the home of Harold True Hoops Skip, who had hosted LSD parties attended by Charlie and his followers before the murders. How many of you grew up hearing that he was a dejected musician who just went on a rampage

killing all the people who said no to his his music. That's that's one of the That's one of the lines that instead of you know, getting into his inner connectedness to all these things that could expose others, it was, Oh, he just got angry and told all these kids to start killing these people who were in Hollywood and and music, like the music producers because they didn't they rejected his album. It's a it's a bit of a stretch.

And we think that Sharon Tate was pregnant with Roman Pulaski's child, but she may not have been if they were into wife swapping, and you know, the them being part of a cult and then her being sacrificed to it. Are two different things. If she was just a swinger, I don't think she definitely didn't deserve that, and neither did the child, the unborn child at all. One particularly bizarre fact about the take killings that has gone largely

unreported is that the crime scene appeared to have been rearranged. Oh shit, I don't know if you see what I see on the screen, But just wait for it. We're gonna get our the confirmation here that I had said mentioned earlier, it's coming up changed. After the killers had left, an attempt appeared to have been made to pose the victim's bodies on the home's front porch, after which the corpses were reposed inside the house. That very beginning

article by Miles Mathis goes into that more and again. I'll link that in description because that appears to have happened, and that's quite unusual. Evidence of tampering with the crime scene included an unidentified bloody boot heel print found on the front porch of the house and a number of unidentified fingerprints on the premises. Really Manson was ultimately arrested on charges unrelated to the murders on October twelfth.

Alistair Curley's birthday following a raid on the family compound, and was only later charge in connection to the killings. Charlie had previously been arrested or charged on forty or more occasions. One of those arrests in nineteen sixty seven was made

by narcotics teams led by LAPDS Frank Salerno. So Erna would later lead the task force investigating both the Hillside Strangler murders and the night Stalker killings, and when we get into part two, you'll see the interconnections of the everything from Lewis, Jolly and West to other people that were very closely involved in not just one suspected murder or high profile case, but many. When the Manson case came to trial, there were the usual strange occurrences it seemed to plague

serial killer trials. The lead defense attorney, Ronald Hughes, had just passed the bar and yet to try a single case. He was, needless to say, a rather odd choice to spearhead the defense of one of the most vigorously prosecuted and high profile murder cases of all time. Hughes soon went missing and later turned up dead on the very day that death sentences were returned by

the jury. Family member John Phillip zero Hot, not charged with playing a role in the murders, also turned up dead allegedly after playing a game of Russian Roulette. Another member of the family was whisked away to Patent State Hospital, which was reportedly deeply immersed in overt behavior modification experiments in the nineteen seventies.

Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the trial was that the defense team rested their case without bothering to actually present one courtroom viewers were stunned when not a single witness was called to rebut the prosecutor's case, thereby virtually guaranteeing a win for Bugliosi in the state. Also of notice that then President Richard Nixon declared Manson guilty on national television, nearly causing a mistrial, but ultimately greatly aiding

the prosecution's efforts. When it was all over, Judge Order pronounced death sentences for Charlie Patricia Kremwigle, Susan Atkins, and Leslie Van Houghton. The sentences were delayed on of all days, April nineteenth, nineteen seventy one, the year before Bobby Bobby Bobly Bobby Bussel had become the first family member to receive a death sentence when the jury is trying to shit. I fucked it up when the jury trying him returned the sentence in the Gary Hinman murder trial.

The date was April twenty first, nineteen seventy, the day after Hitler's birthday. Here's an important point, and we're getting close to ending off this particular segment here. This is really interesting. So perhaps in no other serial killer case, as a subject of mind control played a more central role. That Charlie had a remarkable ability to control his followers as a well established and widely acknowledged fact. And he didn't learn or earn all of those credentials in prison

playing around with books. He was what would you say, if you are a pianist, you'd be classically trained, except your teacher would be somebody in the CIA. Even more remarkable is that Manson has maintained much of that control from inside a prison cell for over thirty years now, and we know obviously he's died since the writing of this book. In fact, the control that

he had over his disciples was the primary basis for Manson's murder convictions. While it was Charlie's face that came to symbolize the killings, he did not personally participate in the Tate Law Beyonca murders. According to the official version of events, he was not even present at the crime scenes when the murders took place. He merely suggested to his followers what they should do, and they obligingly

followed his commands in order to convict Manson. Then it was necessary for the And he may not have even done that, but he may because of Manson Charlie's kooky ways of receiving things and his ways of I don't know understanding things, may be covering for something else and just said, yeah, I told them to do it because something else is going on. The prosecution to convince

the jury that the actual killers were virtually powerless to disobey their leader. For this reason, the Manson trial had no real precedent in American legal history. What the Manson case demonstrated was that it could be proven in a court of law that a person could be compelled to essentially act against his or her will. That had already been established in a Danish court in a landmark case recalled by Esterbrooks and hypnotism. That's the point I made on one of the very

first episodes when I first started talking out about this shit. Scientology practices covert hypnotism without a license, completely illegally, and why can't they be prosecuted since there's been a precedent sent with the Manson case, why can't they be prosecuted for hypnotizing people without their consent? So with that in mind, by the way, this George Easterbrooks book on hypnotism is very telling, and they'll all be a free PDF of that book in the description box a few hours after

the video publishes. I'm not sure where this description box is that he's referring to, but when you look down underneath this video, I'm pretty sure you don't see any of that stuff. And he's been talking about all kinds of links gonna be there. An amateur hypnotist named Nielsen had induced a hypnotic subject named Hardrup to commit a murder. Nielsen, the hypnotist, got a life

sentence, the maximum penalty in Denmark. Okay, the battery has died and we've been going for one fifty, so I'm gonna have to change the battery. And while I do that, I'm going to try to play this. I'm just gonna play this thing for you again, guys, even though I know it's gonna be a little shitty. Don't tune out, though, just give me, give me a minute to get this thing. Oh okay, we're back. Okay, good. Supposedly stole camera equipment, filmmaker Kennethy.

Is that still skipping massively? Guys? I just there's no other way to test out the live streams except to do them and fix them accordingly. But I'll just play thirty seconds and let me know if it's massively skipping. Anger. One year later, Manson was of stealing thousands of dollars worth of equipment, including a camera and lights, and they had all kinds of you know, in state of the r and you know, photography and okay again,

you guys can watch that afterwards. But it just wants to know if the ship's still skipping. So back to this, Okay, So this is kind

of an unprecedented oops wrong one. It's kind of unprecedented. You know that they actually got Manson for hypnotism, where you know, if the people were what he's saying here is if the people were we're hypnotized and we're acting you know, uh, without their own kind of knowledge or consent, then they shouldn't be held as responsible or responsible at all, and Charlie should be the

one that's being prosecuted. But instead they all kind of got the wrap, which is a contradiction in the case that Bougliosi was kind of making a point about. It's very interesting. So an amateur hypnotist named Nielson had been induced in a hypnotic subject named Hardrup to commit a murder. Nielsen the hypnotist got a life sentence the maximum penalty in Denmark, whereas hard Up, the actual murder, received a two year sentence on the basis of temporary insanity. The

Manson case had a slightly different outcome. Manson the hypnotist received the death penalty, the maximum sentence in the state of California, and so did the actual murders. Legally and logically, that verdict made little sense, for if Manson's control was so complete that the killers were powerless to resist his commands, then they should not have been held legally accountable for their actions. And if Charlie did not wield such power, then he should not have been held responsible for

the actions of others. Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, who also wrote the best selling novel Helter Skelter, did not address that inherent contradiction in his prosecution strategy. In his widely read book Helter Skelter, he did ponder, albeit briefly, how Manson gained such control over his subjects. He concluded that that remains quote

the most puzzling question of all. Indeed, after spending just a few pages briefly summarizing some of the techniques Manson employed on its followers, Leucliosi commented, I tend to think there's something more, some missing link that enabled him to so rape and bastardize the minds of its followers that they would go against the most ingrained of all commandments, that shall not kill, and willingly and even eagerly murder at his command. Charlie himself once gave an indication of how he

controlled his block quote. If you want to get to people and unlock their minds, the basic way you get them is through fear, exactly the biggest weapon that's used. That was a concept that borrowed from the teachings at the processed Church. In his summer nineteen sixty nine interview Beach Boys, Dennis Wilson spoke of getting the fear. In the same interview, he referred to Charlie as quote the wizard. This is okay. While pondering the question of how

Manson was able to exert such control, Bugliosi largely ignores it. Perhaps even more important question where did Charlie learn the techniques that he was so obviously skilled That bogliosates that only only that it quote may be something that he learned from others, which of course is only stating the obvious. The question not asked, either in the book or at the trial is who were the others? One possible answer can be found among the personnel at the hate Ashbury Free Medical

Clinic in the late nineteen sixties. Again, this has been discussed earlier, and I'm sure we'll be hitting upon this in the next one. Two employees of the clinic doctor Roger Smith, a research a research criminologist who had started the clinic's drug treatment. I'm shorthanding in this chat because I'm trying to do five different things at once. But when you're when your hormones are being manipulated. That's going to change your your your psyche is going to change the way

you feel your emotions. I mean, I guess nobody's ever lived with a woman and seen their ups and downs and their ebbs and flows for them not to know what a hormonal psychosis is. But that's kind of what I'm getting at. When you start adding drugs to that that drive things into the dirt and raise other things up, unnaturally, you're going to be all over the place. That's not a stable mind when that happens. And that's why these people are going to be more often than not able to be pushed over the

edge. As far as you know, these shooters, every person like from Columbine not up. They were on prozac, prozac disassociates. They were raped, they were you know, they were raped by by people that brought them in when they were juvenile delinquents, so they had a hatred going on there. There's all kinds of these little elements that are all similar across these these shooters. They're made, they're manufactured by the psychiatrists to go out and kill

one. They don't eything to really get hung up even so much on the whole hormonal suppression aspect. As you do the whole idea of the conditioning and grooming by the psychiatrist and the implanting of ideas and then the reinforcement of said ideas. It's going to get to these people to do exactly what they're seeing if they can get them to do, and then they do it and like

yay, we did it. Next program and doctor David Smith, who founded the clinic itself, were both involved in government sponsored research on human behavior. Both had connections to Manson and his followers. In fact, Roger Smith was Charlie's parole officer, and it's discussed in Tom O'Neil's book Chaos. He's the one that basically kept him out of prison, despite many opportunities to throw him

back in prison for you know, an extended period of time. Another question never addressed by Boogliosi is how it was possible that a man of limited education would spent the majority of his life behind bars somehow acquired those skills. Y US intelligence agencies, after investing countless millions of dollars and decades of research aimed at attaining that very same goal, have allegedly met with nothing but failure. I can tell you from being in scientology, it's not met with failure.

You absolutely can make somebody do something against their own will. You absolutely can. Okay, it defies the explanation that men such as Mansion or Jim Jones, David Koresh, et cetera, have stumbled upon a secret that the CIA has yet to discover. It is a patently absurd notion, and yet that

is exactly what we are supposed to believe. Well, hold up at goddamn second, though, dumpy lumping David Koresh, and with Jim Jones and fucking Manson, you have two manufactured assholes, and you have a guy who isn't involved in doing anything wrong who got rated because they wanted to kill him, plain and simple. They had other reasons, and they're not all known to

why they wanted to eradicate those people. There was plenty of other things going on there, including perhaps Mina, Arkansas's little drug run being a second stop which has been right around where Waco was, and they just wanted to clear the land for that. But there's lots of other reasons why, especially since they were also monitoring the federal government with their own radio equipment and stuff like that, and their little hackers because they knew that they were up to no

good, because they knew that they were watching them. Lots of different aspects going on. But what they weren't doing was any of the stuff that they were accused of. They weren't harming the children, they weren't raping anybody, they weren't forcing anybody into anything. And the reason why they had guns is because they sold them to make money for their church, for their home.

They weren't hoarding them. Of course. They did also believe that the United States is an evil, wicked system of Satan, and I don't think anyone can disagree with that right now. If they could, then that's one thing, but they share as hell can't. Now. So what did David Crush do again? Oh yeah, Vernon, Sorry, Vernon, He didn't do anything wrong, So don't love him in with Jim Jones, don't do it. We're also supposed to believe that Charlie, while controlling the actions of others,

wasn't self acting on his own free will. That's highly unlikely. If Charlie was in fact in controlling the family, The logical question to be asked that trial was who was controlling Manson. Was Manson himself a puppet as well as a puppeteer. That question, naturally was never raised and so remains largely unanswered to this day. Perhaps Bougliosi felt that question unimportant, given that, according to his book quote, the Manson case was and remains unique. Doctor

Roger Smith saw things a little differently. In December nineteen sixty nine, he told Life magazine quote, here's a lot of Charles he's running around, believe me. Okay, So we finished with that one, got one more little thing to show you? Do I dare try another video? Or is it just gonna freaking skip on that conspiracy? In terms of getting Charlie to be

tried. Here's what they kind of said in the in one of the documentaries regards the conspiracy to commit murder and why they were able to convict Charlie on the same ground the hypnotists, on the same grounds as those who were hypnotized. This is probably gonna skip, but we shall see. It took forty two and one half hours of deliberating before the jury, of course it did. He'd reached a verdict. Stemma, No, okay, I think it's buffering. So bad. It's not going to do shit. Okay, let's

charless and smiled. Yeah, we're not. That's if we're this something called the case standard as of a naval commander calling himself freight h on Hubbard to get this section to wrap it up, or we haven't even actually started to get into it. Hopefully you can see some connections being made because we really have just kind of just started. It's so remember that quote at the beginning, how the Manson story is so hard to tell because there's so many different

avenues and connections. Hopefully you're starting to see that. And I tried to put this in some form where it's disciples somewhat makes it hair. I'll read for you since you're not. Another disciple of Crowley and an occult superstar in his own right was rocket fuel scientist Jack Parsons. In nineteen thirty nine, Parsons joined the Agappi Lodge of the OTO in Pasadena, California, where he

also helps found the firstyge just jet propulsion laboratory. The agape was the only OTEO lodge in the States at the time, though there was an active lodge in Vancouver started by Charles Stansfield. Charles Stansfield Jones. In nineteen forty two, Parsons took the magical name of Freighter two ten and assumed leadership of the Pasadena Lodge. He was told to lead it with the blessings of Croley,

not just the blessings, the demands. Parsons led the branch of the German based pro Nazi Order pro Nazi throughout the war, while at the same time working on higher classified military projects reportedly aimed at defeating the European fascist powers. One of his early recruits and most avid disciples had just served with the US Navy in the Pacific and was the son of a naval commander, calling himself Freighter h You know who that is, right, He's a naval lefforicer.

Come on, guys, you know we've been talking about the whole god damn time scientologists, right Hubbard. He claimed at various times to work for the Los Angeles Police Department. He actually did work alongside them. I don't think he was official capacity the FBI and the Office of Nagel Intelligence. He was a spook duke. Yeah. In truth, he may very well have worked for all of them. Sense, but we have to jump around a lot, but talked about so far well at the same time working on hollyco yet

did we go too far? No? No, no, no for all of them? Yeah, perhaps very known as everyone, Hubbard soon became parsons right hand man. Yeah, that's kind of gross to say when you know they were beating you each other off in the desert. Calling him his right hand man, it's kind of funny, makes you laugh a little bit.

In nineteen forty six, the two indepths performed an allegedly important ritual that they dubbed a Babylon Working Two years later, following the death of Mentor Crowley, Parsons took the oath of the Antichrist and took on the elaborate new name Valerian Armulus al Dajal. Antichrist is what it means in like so othern language. His Pasadena mansion served as the largest temple leadership of the OTO and we have

to wait now. Classified military projects reportedly a on drag it up oh here it is, had for the time being been passed by Crowley into the hands of Carl Gurmer, a former Nazi spy. Hubbard meanwhile parted ways with Parsons and his money took his money and by and his girl, and by nineteen

fifty had launched a the Hubbard Dianetics Research Foundation in the New Jersey. It made nineteen fifty Astounding Science Fiction, a pulp magazine introduce dianetics as a as a purportedly new science, right because psychiatry rejected it, even though psychiatry was Bolshevik bullshit in the first place, coming out of the Age of Enlightenment of nonsensical Paris. Yeah, within weeks Hubbards blah blah blah had hit. They call it alchemy of the brain. That should tell you what fucking uh sick?

Well, I'm not sick, but mystery school, secret society shit psychiatry really is. It's about controlling people's minds and making them do shit and manipulating them. It's not something that's brand new. It wasn't something that psychiatry psychiatry created. It's been going on since the dawn of man, and it's not been for your benefit. In nineteen fifty two, he moved to He moved

his operation to Phoenix and renamed it the Hubbard Association of Scientologists. In June of that same year, just two days short of the Summer of soul. This Parsons allegedly allegedly blew himself up while at work in his private home lab. They used to call themselves a suicide squad because they played with dangerous explosives all the time chemicals. When informed of her son's death, his mother promptly

committed suicide. Rumors surrounding Parsons' death named el Rod and Herbert Howard, Hughes and Rudah and ran off her possible suspects. Okay, well, they didn't tell you exactly how parsons side. I believe both of his legs blew off and his bottom, his jaw was ripped off of his face and he sat there bleeding. And I believe his mother actually came and saw that, and she probably killed herself because that wasn't just her son, that was her kinky

sex act, ritual sex lover. And I bet you the dog was pretty okay with it because now his asshole wasn't her anymore, because he fucked the dog too. Yes, this is all truth. Two years later, following the death of Mentor Crowley, Parsons took the oath of the Antichrist, and while at work in his private home lab where we're at now nineteen fifty three.

The Church of Scientology was formerly incorporated in Los Angeles. The group grew quickly over the succeeding years, particularly in the light and the late nineteen sixties, when membership quadrupled with the addition of such members as Charles Manson. Thank you, we're done with him, We're not. By nineteen sixty seven, Hubbard's empire included command of a fleet of ships. Remember the first one was bought by money he stole from his friend through the Church of Scientology. It's

very's hard. When informed of her son's death, his mother promptly committed suicide. So Parsons's mother also apparently committed suicide, and there's rumor and as possible suspects. In nineteen fifty three they were. Yet, though the Church of Scientology has worked hard to gloss over it's occult roots, its founder's own son, Elron Hubert Junior, has been quoted as saying Hitler was involved in the same black magic and the same occult practices that my father was, the identical

ones. My father thought of himself as the Beast six sixty six incarnate. When Crowley died in nineteen forty seven. My father then decided that he ships they would go. Where'd he go? Uh decided that he Okay, okay, that's it. That's the end of it. That was it. I was just elevating, there's this fucking space there. Well, should wear the should wear the cloak of the beast. There seems to have been a lot

of that going on around Elron Hubbard Junior, let see around period. Elon Hubbard Junior has also said that the one super secret sentence that Scientology is built on is do it what thou he says, do as thou wilt, Do

what thou wilt shall be the whole of jay Z's Law. In the early nineteen sixties, two ranking members of the Church of Scientology, Robert Moore and Mary Anne MacLean, better known as the the Grimston's, split off from London's Hubbard Institute to form the Processed Church of the Final Judgment, a group whose official logo is a modified spotsika and or maybe an anti Karna right, and whose literature included glowing tributes to Nazism, Satan, Satan Gore, and a

big red dot. The group's bookstore reportedly stock titles on topics such as Hitler. That's a topic because like people used to make fun of the History Channel because all they used to ever do is talk about Hitler. So we just dubbed it the Hitler Channel as Hitler, organized crime, hypnosis, brainwashing,

and the occult. More a former cavalry officer and the grandson of a British vicar, and McLean, a one time prostitute who was connected to the Profumo scandal and who was reportedly and who reportedly Lee believes that she is the reincarnation of Nazi propagandist Joseph Gerbels. Well, at least they're not stupid or crazy. First left London with their followers, got a early nineteen sixties, two high ranking members just after the summer solstice of nineteen sixty six, arriving first

in NASA and then in Stole pronounce the right, Stole, Mexico. They were soon back in London. And the story goes in a circle, apparently because we just started to talking about that at the very beginning. Did I get too far ahead? I happened? I barely even click the damn thing. Well, I'm just losing this, but we aren't. Yeah, Okay, By nineteen sixty seven, they had arrived in the States, first setting up a shop in New Orleans, French Quarter, where the organization was formerly

incorporated, with the assistance of a former lawyer of the Catholic Church. Not surprising me at all, with the whole Catholic Church slash Jesuit slash Catholicism in the Roman Empire, handed anything and child trafficking and all that stuff, not at all at all surprise, waiting for it. Actually, In March nineteen

sixty eight, the group moved their base of operations to San Francisco. They were the original San Francisco treat then it became Sodomy, you know, taking up residents not far from the Vay's Church of Satan and various other occult groups, including a branch of the Oto. Recruiters for the group had been in the Bay Area since nineteen sixty seven, since the nineteen sixty seven Summer of Love, signing on such members as Brother Eli, a member of Come On

It's a member of What Talk to Me Goose Oh too Far, that it was a bitch too far instead of bridge too Far. Brother Eli, a member of the Gypsy Jokers biker gang whose home Processed Church temple was located just two blocks away from the home of the Manson family. From its inception, the Process made no effort to hide its infatuation with death destruction and cultural terrorism. In the essay, Jehovah on war or More commanded his followers, thou

shalt kill. I wish some people would get us rattled up like that. It's about goddamn time we did something another essay that I don't mean just randomly. I mean like the people that are pressing and killing and raping your children and all that stuff that's you know, focus it on the problem and then it's not such a bad thing. Righteous destruction of evil, never bad,

never bad. I won't send you the hell, I promise. Another essay that appeared in the official Process publication, and now I gotta continue to wait. Came on, bro, I feel like did I publication urged readers to experience the pleasures of grief robbing. I never had the pleasures of grave robbing myself. Usually there are already been ransacked. There's nothing there for you anyway.

It's very very disappointing. And necrophilia, well that's kind of I mean, fresh dead bodies or like you were talking skeletons, or you just got to pretend they're doing something like I don't get it. They didn't say necromancy, which is just talking to them. No, they said necrophilia right there and ran in. The Death Issue was penned by a recent transplant to the Bay Area by the name of Charles Manson, who thought all this stuff was

just wonderful, good time and fun on a Saturday afternoon. Also, by nineteen sixty seven, the process had already spawned at least one spinoff. Man, the sequels are never as good. It's God, it's like, what the hell is that? Jony and Chachi? The fuck? They had a Joni and Chachi by nineteen sixty seven. Jesus christ I wondered why they went down, Probably from the group's inner circle, reportedly known as the Yomiga. The spinoff has not been very well received by Nick at Night. Uh,

that's that's just my shit. Just a giant footnote, seven page footnote to follow you going, man, Come on, I'm clicking the button. There you go. Been variously referred to as the four P Movement, which We're gonna talk or pie We're going to be listening to what we'll be talking to, and remind me to put up the freaking marker. I gotta I have to put the place place card up for that. But we're going to be

talking to Todd Wood tomorrow and you should be excited, goddamn it. And if you want to look at the Walter Bosley channel on YouTube, or just look for Todd Wood on William Ramsey Investigates and just take a couple of those episodes in it's it's good talks, Good talks had by all and he's going to be here tomorrow five pm my time. Or the Ching Gong Ching Goong is what they call the leader, so I don't know if that's actually right how they looked that up or the Ching Gun Cult. The group's logo is

a stylized well is it really? Is it really a swastika? Or is it a bunch of peas with the tail stick coming out? Four of them? Right? And that's it's like it's a wheel. It could be considered like a sun wheel, I guess, but not really. It's more of a bunch of peas, just like the sixes on a freaking what do you call it? The CERN logo, it's just not feathered the same way, more of a blocky way. Right. Its members are said to share a

fascination with Nazi racist doctrines. Well, first of all, that means that you don't know goddamn history. Yeah, yeah, because that's the bullshit narrative line that you are fed all your life and believe. Meanwhile, the Bolshevik Jews were out murdering multitudes, exponentially more of innocent people, including mostly going after Christians, sure is held and take down their synagogues. But Germany bad. Yeah, okay, so recorrect your brain before you tell me that shit.

In the fucking book, author Michael Newton has written, if law enforcement spokesmen are correct, the cult is also deeply involved in white slavery. Oh so they're British because that's who's also involved in white slavery, child pornography and the international narcotics trade. The first branch, well, they're easier to catch

too, if you think about it. We're not nearly as athletic. The first branch of the cult was organized in northern California and is said to have held its early gatherings in the Santa Cruz Mountains adjacent to the Boiling cauldron of satanic activity known as San Francisco. Imagine that being the town. Like Moniker like, Hey, where do you live? I live next to the boiling cauldron of satanic activity known as San Francisco. Yeah no, no, it's

the rent's not cheap, it's actually ridiculous. Can't touch a house for under two millionaire? Yep oh shit. From this primordial stew would arise in the late sixties, the Manson Family. They would arise from the boiling cauldron of satanic activity. That's awfully dramatic. Much of Manson's ideology was taken directly from

the teachings of the Processed Church and the CIA. Oh sorry, it doesn't say that, but I did, with whom Charlie was closely connected, as alluded to by Bugliosi in Helter Skelter and greatly elaborated on by Ed Sanders in The Family. It's cool that I can read a sentence. It's only half there, isn't it. It's called skills, bro. I read on the elliptical all the time and know how to do this stuff. And Mary Terry and the Ultimate Evil, that's the name I was looking for, the for

the author I was running the Ultimate Evil down in another name. Manson was exposed to the Process as early as spring of nineteen sixty seven at San Francisco's infamous Devil House, and he later claimed to have met the leader of the Process at the Polanski home, which he is known to have visited before the killings, So they knew him and he knew them. Manson was also linked to the Church of Satan, so they knew him and he knew them.

Did anybody ever talked to Levey about that? Or I don't know. Back then, I think Lipshits was still a member before he broke off and had his temper tampater. Do you guys ever see a picture of Teller Swift? You know where I'm going with this. You know where I'm going with this next to Zena Shrek. I'm just saying they're similar. I'm not saying this is illegitimate repe child or ceremonial child. I'm not saying that. I'm just I'm just saying it looks similar, grown in the same cultured dish. I

don't know, uh they San Francisco is okay. Manson was exposed to Process church as early as the spring of nineteen sixty seven at San Francisco's infamous Devil House. It's like, not Maxwell House, even though that's actually kind of sucked six too. That would have been a great sitcom Maxwell House, but it's like Giselain Maxwell and Robert Maxwell, but it has nothing to do with

coffee, and everybody gets disappointed. That would be good. And he later claimed to have met the leaders of the process at the Pulanski home, which he is known to have Okay, I already said all that, but the hell you let me do that again? For Manson was also linked to the church. I did that too, the Solar Lodge of the Oto, which

is the Solar Lodge. Is you did just glossic over that? That's that's a fuck up place there, okay, which operated from a ranch near life and a cult owner how and a cult owner I'm sorry because I can't read, and a cult owned house near the University of Southern California campus. Now I gotta wait again. Uh, let's got the block up there on that the Church of Scientology. Charlie declared himself to be a Theta clear after one

hundred and fifty hours of auditing while in prison. So this is kind of a recap, a particularly bizarre group known as the ku K Order of the Dog Blood, and a number of occult oriented biker gangs, including the Street Satans who once attended a ku Klux Klan rally in the sun Stand, Fernaldva San Fernando Valley and Satan Slaves, the Gypsy Jokers, the Jokers something or

other on behind the ball here uh, and the Coffin Makers. Terry's evidence indicates that the family was itself a Setenant cult, specifically a faction of the process spawned Four Pie or four Pea cult and a sister group to both the New York chapter said to it said to be responsible for the Son of Sam slayings, and the Santa Anda sorry Santa Cruz, San Francisco faction that may

have been responsible for the Zodiac murders. The Manson family and when you think of all this crap cult, sure, but where's the where's the Masonic quater behind it? Because I bet you there's a link there too. The Manson family, appropriately enough, was also deeply involved in drug sniffing dog no what this is in drug trafficking, just as Henry Lee Lucas claimed to claimed his

cult to be. It is not likely a coincidence that Henry's partner, Oist Tool, was known to have paid visits to the to the America, New Orleans headquarters of the Processed Church. With all that in mind, we now turned about oh Man, New Orleans, lots of jazz. They need cocaine otherwise it just becomes like casual music again, right, you have to have

the cocaine to make it go fast. With all that in mind, we now turn our attention to the San Francisco Santa Cruz area and the explosion of violent murders that belched forth from the cold dur in the beginning in the late sixties. And I'm gonna guess that's where he cuts it off for the night. Yes, so, yeah, I was right. I knew it was right. It has been way too long. But I want to play a little bit of this and we'll get back. Sina was also hold on.

Sino is also the first baptized in the Judd saying, yeah, Swift is actually she's she's not attractive. She's not attractive at all, not gonna lie about that. I don't think she's not attractive at all. It seems like she's gotten uglier more rapidly, like maybe that maybe the double that they have in there for her now is not a female? Which one we were looking at? I gotta look up here. I think it's this one author David living Yeah, let's play that one. I think. Yeah, let's play

a little bit off their David Livingstone. This is a William Ramsey investigates. So you're gonna love it anyway. I'm not sure how long I've been actually recording, because my clock on Streamyard lies to me and it like it'll start playing at zero again, like thirty minutes into it, so at four hours they cut me off at at rumble, so it'll like, yeah, we're only going to process four hours of your video, so because you don't pay us a monthly tithing, so whatever, let's play a little bit of this.

I don't know I even waste my time telling you that far, but let's do this and then I'll be back. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna play the full length of this, just a little bit to give you a flavor of my man, my boy here. Actually both of them. I love David Livingstone's work, and I enjoy having my conversations with William Ramsey published June twenty thirteen, Transhumanism very timely topic, Transhumanism The History of a Dangerous

Idea twenty fifteen and Terrorism in the Illuminati of three thousand year History. And I've read through that book. I was published in twenty seventeen. So, mister Livingston, are you there, I'm here. It's Stone or Stone living Stone, right, I think it's done. Yeah, Okay. For people who haven't heard your name or may not be familiar with working you talk a little bit about but about your background of what led you to this as you've

published online care Yeah, it's it's now thirty years of study. So this is why my you know, the my recent book is really is is uh, it's very much the result of all crucial to understanding the bigger picture orchestrate most of the recent events, so to understand what they've done, why they've done it, and ideally, if we can try to understand what they're trying to do, then the only way to do that is to explore the history

of the culture. It's not an easy task because it's not available in mainstream history books. It is touched on by a number of occult books, but those books are grossly unreliable because they tend to be have to do mostly with legends. The thing is that with every legendre's a there's a piece of truth to it. So it's been a matter of trying to sift through all these occult legends and try to get to the root of what the true history was, because it is it is at least I mean, it's a very ancient

history. It's at least a three thousand year history, and one that is I mean, particularly for what we know as Western history, is basically a whitewashed version of occult history or for the masses, right, I mean it's fascinating. Yeah. So you actually start this new book all the way back to called Ian Maguie ancient Greece, so you're definitely starting right from the time

of recorded history. Yes, sorry, I was just going to say that's what the Masons do, ohto you know, you have a section on Crowley, an excellent section on Cryer Albert Pike, so, uh, they're looking at it in this kind of great swath of history. So I think it's important for you to uncover all that stuff and show what these guys are thinking of the people who orchestrated nine to eleven, things like that, stuff that's

going on with COVID, great reset schwad. So where would you like to cover We talked a little bit of a pre interview, but you have anything that from the book that might be timing, Yeah, I'd like I'd like to talk about what I just posted today because it really ties in to some of the most important that's not the most important finding in my recent book.

So basically, what's happening on the twenty first of December is what's called the Great Conjunction, and that's basically when the planets of Jupiter and Saturn lineup and basically are on top of each other. So this is an event that happens every twenty years. It's the most important event in occult astrology. So what's interesting is that, so first of all astrologers, I mean, it's it's being published in the mainstream news, but I don't think a lot of people

are catching on to the significance of it. But astrologers are referring to it as Christmas Star. So what's particularly interesting about this particular conjunction is that it lines up exactly with the winter solstice. So of course there's four Luciferian holidays a year, and that lines up with the two solstices and two equinoxes, and so those are Christmas, Easter, Saint John's Day, and Halloween.

So I read an article today that pointed out that although this happens every twenty years, the particular, this particular the closeness of this particular alignment hasn't happened

since sixteen twenty three. So this is pretty shocking because one of the most important pointings that I've done my in in my late that I that I share in my latest book is because I've studied the Rosicutians for a while and the Rosicrusians are essential to this entire story, right, I mean, basically, you've got several stages in the envelopment of a cult tradition, and for at least Western history, it starts with the Templars and then basically re emerges as

the Rosicrusions. The rose Crusions result in the Freemasons and finally Illuminati. So the advent of the Rosicrusions in particular is really represents the modern birth of the most influential cult tradition. So you know, if you look at their own literature. What happens is that the advent of the Rosicrusions was deliberately timed with the Great Conjunction of their time, which was supposed to happen in sixteen twenty

three. So the Rosicrucian movement actually emerged a few years before that when the first manifestos were published, but it's when the movement was announced to the world that happened in sixteen twenty three. So also what I show in my book, this again is all part of my latest findings. In fact, this is what I've treated before, but I've gone into more depth this time. So what's unique is that I've seen no other scholars identify is that right after

this period. So first of all, the Rosicrucians they supposedly get defeated. When when, Because what happens is they offer. So the rose Cristian movement is based on the marriage of Frederick five of Frederick the fifth of the Palatinate to Elizabeth Stewart, who was the daughter of King James. So this is this is written about in a book by Valentin Andrea called The Chemical Wedding, which means al chemical wedding. So this wedding is particularly significance, and I

explained where where that goes in a minute before like spring becomes before. Okay. So basically the rosicrusion movement is defeated, but it survives in a in a group called the art Lips Circle the collor heartlet circle because it's a circle around person particularly several three at least three people in particular. But the leader of it is a guy named Samuel Hartlepp. And then history partners were John

Durry and John Comeniz. So they formed what's called the Invisible College. And that's well known that, uh, the Royal Society came out derived out of the out of the Invisible College, and then Freemasonry came out of the Royal Society. So the Heartlip Circle basically were rosicrusions and they were intimately involved with Manasse Ben Israel. So Manasa been in Rooseralt is a very important rabbi of

Amsterdam. Amsterdam at the time was basically, you know, the center of European Jews because before that they had been kicked out of Spain and one of the places where they found refuge was in Amsterdam. Because they were largely able to follow their own religion they didn't have to remain conversos as they did. Thanks for that chapter, because that's the fire he tried on. Right,

there's so Manassa been Israel. This is basically what it was found, is that he paid Oliver Cromwell to overthrow Charles the First, who happens to be the brother of Elizabeth Stewart who married Frederick the fifth. They were the children of James, King James. So the result of that is that in exchange, Cromwell repealed the law, or helped to repeal the law that barred Jews from entering England because the Jews that have been expelled from England since the year

twelve ninety. So Manassa Been Israel becomes the leader of this circle of all these rosicrusions, and they begin to start fanning expectations about the significance of the year sixteen sixty six, which they believe, based on their interpretations the Book

of Revelation will represent the advent of the Messiah. So, of course what happens is that in that year, that's the year that Chaptaiza V declares himself Massiah, and his immediate influence happens all around these people who are these millenarians

associated with the heart Lip Circle, particularly a guy named Peter Serarius. Peter Serarius is his master in Israel's main partner, and he's the one who keeps most of these guys abreast of the events of Shaptaizavi's mission, and particularly people like John Durrett and most important a guy named what was his first name, Oldenburg this his last name, who is one of the founders of the Royal

Society. Look at the Royal Society is basically mostly composed of people who are associated with the Heart Lip Circle, so call it Visible College, and associated directly and in directly with Manassa be in Israel. So what I found, this is my most recent findings, is that Manassa Been Israel's followers. The first thing they do in London is they create the Best Marks Synagogue, and

I talk about this in my chapter on the Freemasons. And so Best Mark Synagogue then has four sister congregations in the United States, and I talk about that in my chapter on the American Revolution. So they are the four synagogues are Sheirith Israel in London, the Turo Synagogue in Newport, the McVay Israel

synagogue in Philadelphia. The reason why it's called Mick for Israel is because Manassa be in Israel wrote a book about the last I was supposedly living in North America, which he called Lost the Last, the Last Hope, the Last Hope, which translates as McVay Israel I hope. I got that title correctly,

please where I was looking at up You'll have to verify that. But the Prebrew title is mcveay Israel. So these are the congregations that are involved basically implementing the American Revolution, particularly guy named Hain Solomon who is a rock Child agent. And it's it's this network of Mason's associated with these four synagogues, particularly Beth Elaheim and Charleston who found Scottish Rake Free Masonry. And I

believe the year eighteen oh one. So the backtrack a bit. This entire network is based on the descendants of the alchemical wedding of Frederick the Fifth and Elizabeth Stewart, so all their descendants become the key actors in the development of

Fremason, tied of course with the Invisible College. So primarily so because what happens is that I think it's Charles the Second, who succeeded by James the Second, and James the Second is overthrown by William of Orange or William of Orange happens also to be a descendant of the Alchemical Wedding, but nevertheless James

is the Stewart families. So what happens is you get the Jacobite movement that are committed to the restoration of the Stuart dynasty and the Jacobite movement, then basically you're at war with the Brits who because of their rejection of James the Second and they flee to to France. So it's there in France that they begin the founding of what's called Gousea free masonry or Scottish masonry. So this

all happens develops in France. So the main people who are associated with are all descendants of the Chemical Wedding. So principally you have Frederick the Great King of Prussia, the various Dukes of Arleon, starting with Philip the second, but the second of Arleon A It's very interesting because he he married the daughter is the daughter of a woman who is involved in a notorious affair black She was accused of practicing black magic rituals involving human sacrifice called the Affair of the

Poisons. So basically, it's a family of the orleon. Finally, in particular where notoriously all right, we're done. It's been a long night. Just finally finished my stupid ice cream cone that was dying for something to eat, and we are good. Hope everybody enjoyed it. Let's see, Yeah, this is truth into that statementy there, let me see good call in that one. Yes, it's not the first time I've used that name either.

When you look into the history that it's it's a recurring thing. It's also again I'm not sure if he's getting into the fabrication aspects of this in his I noticed David was talking about the rescreations, But I don't know if you put place as much of a do you importance on the fact that they were straight up fabrications after a certain point and just doing it and name it

only because the name got them clout. So you know, when you're a mystery school, you want people to be attracted to your mystical teachings that they would go around calling and any any which Yahoo collectively would find some people like these rosicrusions or carrying out the legacy anyway, So one other thing, and then I got trying to get rid of how they what do they do? Where is it? Uh No, I can't I find it? Okay, And I saw you this because this is how you get to see more of

these things. And if you don't, then you don't get to see one of these things. I have to go to other stuff. Priest Craft Beyond Babylon, that Barnes and Noble four hundred and sixteen page book or good as a new book, or you can get it on Amazon. This is in the description. This is how well when people use it, it's a means of making the thing work, but when it's not used, it doesn't.

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But there's a big gold member I don't know. I don't know. I'm pretty sure I don't know. I don't know what they're trying to do with that, but it just looks like it just looks gay all over the place, doesn't it all around? Like a big Osyrus thing going on there. He Yeah, I was gonna play some of this, but it wasn't all that interesting. So there's some credits. You guys want to read some credits before we go. That's usually a lot of fun. Sometimes I just go

to a movie so I can read the credits. I have to wait a long time. That was making me wait till the end. Usually all right, good night, Oh if you haven't already, you know, if you'd liked what you saw either there's a button for that if you'd like to be notified when I do, come on, there's a there's a button for that.

It usually says follow or subscribe. I'm not sure. I think it's follow on rumble, right, And then there's a red button that says join, And that's just because you're that selfless that you want to help others. It's also in the live chat there's a button there that says subscribe, and that that opens up a whole new world, just like Aeriel. Right, I think that's who it was. Or no, that was God damn, that was Aladdin. Right, I don't even know heay appears. I don't

know. I don't know. One of those two Disney propaganda movies. There you go. That's what it's all. It's just like that Disney propaganda movie. Alright, bye, I've already said too much. M el spot Yeah,

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