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Aye-aye Pod

Duke Lemur Centerlemur.duke.edu
The official podcast of the Duke Lemur Center. Your hosts, Education Programs Manager Megan McGrath and DLC Museum of Natural History Curator Matt Borths, Ph.D., are venturing into all things lemur: science, research, conservation, husbandry, Madagascar, and so much more! Each mini-season will be focused on a particular subject, and each episode will include discussions and interviews with experts to learn as much as we can about these amazing primates together.
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A Busy Time in Primate Evolution: Spring 2026

Description: Over the last few years, Aye-aye Pod co-host Matt Borths has been part of a paleontology team exploring an exciting new fossil site called Topernawi, which is near Lake Turkana in northern Kenya. But, aren’t lemurs from Madagascar? What’s a Lemur Center paleontologist doing in Kenya? In this episode, co-host Megan McGrath turns the interview spotlight on Matt to figure out if he’s landed on the wrong continent. Turns out Topernawi – a fossil site that was only discovered a few years...

Apr 30, 202625 min

A Creature That Has a Superpower: Winter 2026

In this episode of Aye-aye Pod, we finally discuss a truly incredible little lemur with evolutionary superpowers: the fat-tailed dwarf lemur! Dwarf lemurs are the only members of our primate family tree that are obligate hibernators. Tune in for a crash course in what makes these hibernating primates so fascinating and how our non-harmful research into their unique adaptations could have far-ranging impacts from conservation to deep space travel. Click HERE for a transcript of this episode. For ...

Jan 23, 202622 min

Rules for Free-ranging: Fall 2025

Aye-aye Pod is back! In this episode, we cover what’s kept us away, what you can expect in future episodes, and what happens at the Duke Lemur Center as we transition into cooler weather. Tune in with your hosts Megan and Matt for a behind-the-scenes discussion of what it takes to free-range lemurs to leap, snack, and snooze in large forest habitats, a gross-but-cool (grool?) ring-tailed lemur fact, and an exciting paleontology development closer to the human side of our primate family tree! Cli...

Dec 05, 202534 min

S4E7 You Have to Work with People: A Lemur Reintroduction Story

With nearly 40 years of experience working in Madagascar conservation (15 of which were spent living in Madagascar), Charlie Welch has an incredible wealth of wisdom to share. In this episode, we learn about the origins of the Duke Lemur Center’s conservation work in Madagascar. Then, we dive into the incredible story of 13 black and white ruffed lemurs that were released back into the wild between 1998-2001. You won’t want to miss this incredible slice of Duke Lemur Center history! DLC Madagasc...

Oct 16, 202431 min

S4E6 Writing the History of My Country: Finding Extinct Lemurs

The fossil record of Madagascar is incredible. There are unicorn-horned meat-eating dinosaurs, colossal flightless birds, and lemurs the size of gorillas. Dr. Noromamy Rahanaharivao is a paleontologist in Madagascar who is excavating her country’s past biodiversity. She’s done research on monkey-like Archaeolemur and has searched flooded caves of Tsimanampetsotsa National Park for the remains of Pachylemur, a giant relative of ruffed lemurs. Join Dr. Rahanaharivao as she tells us about her first...

Oct 09, 202415 min

S4E5 Tromping Around in Madagascar: Seed Dispersal and Lemurs

Forests are complicated places, and the species inhabiting forests are dependent on each other in a complex network that we call ecology. Camille Desisto is an ecologist and graduate student at Duke University, and she studies the interactions between plants and lemurs in Madagascar and at the Duke Lemur Center. Specifically, Camille looks at the lemur role of seed disperser—eating fruit and leaving behind seeds throughout the forest. Camille is interested in the mechanics of seed dispersal and ...

Oct 02, 202418 min

S4E4 How We Problem Solve: Ruffed Lemur Cognition

So how smart are lemurs, exactly? How do we even start to figure that out? Meet Ray Vagell, researcher and graduate student from Texas State University who uses SMARTA (a custom-designed touch screen system) to study how lemurs solve problems at the Duke Lemur Center. We also discuss the fun – but mysterious – fact that only female ruffed lemurs have color vision. Ray also uses SMARTA to study ruffed lemur vision, and how his research has become enrichment for some ruffed lemurs who love pushing...

Sep 24, 202423 min

S4E3 Lemur Kindergarten: Social Dynamics in Ruffed Lemurs

Dr. Andrea Baden and her team have spent a lot of time in the rainforests of eastern Madagascar learning about the social lives of ruffed lemurs. In this episode, she shares why it takes a village to run a ruffed lemur kindergarten, how art photography led to her career in primatology, and how ruffed lemurs adapted to climate change. Socially, ruffed lemurs are one of the weirdest lemurs out there, and Dr. Baden is the perfect person to explain the method to their social madness. Dr. Baden’s Lab...

Sep 18, 202423 min

S4E2 I Follow the Lemurs: Ruffed Lemur Husbandry

This week, we’re chatting with one of our wonderful colleagues Madison Armand about her role as a primate technician (our version of a zookeeper here at the Duke Lemur Center). Madison shares what it takes to be a fantastic primate technician, why she particularly enjoys working with ruffed lemurs, and how the DLC animal care team stays up-to-date on the science of animal welfare to provide our lemurs with the best possible lives. Virtual Tour Episode 3: Housing at the DLC (video) – CLICK HERE A...

Sep 11, 202416 min

S4E1 Beautiful Beards: Meet the Ruffed Lemurs

This season we’re leaping into the world of ruffed lemurs – beautiful lemurs with big personalities. In this episode, we discuss the basics of the two species in the Varecia genus – black and white ruffed lemurs and red ruffed lemurs. This is our longest season yet, full of fascinating interviews with ruffed lemur caretakers, researchers, and conservationists, so be sure to subscribe and catch every episode! Black and white ruffed lemur fact sheet (webpage) – CLICK HERE Red ruffed lemur fact she...

Sep 03, 202429 min

S3E7 – Keep Doing the Hard Work

We are wrapping up our sifaka season with Malagasy scientist and conservationist, Mamy Razafitsalama. Mamy’s work in and around Ankarafantsika National Park, which serves as critical habitat for Coquerel’s sifakas in the wild, recently earned him the 2023 Whitley Award for conservation. We were so honored to hear about Mamy’s work studying sifakas in the wild and leading community-based conservation to protect the habitat Coquerel’s sifakas call home. Links to learn more: Watch Sir David Attenbo...

Nov 07, 202314 min

S3E6 – Analyzing the Genomes

Sifakas are beautifully adapted to their environment. Dr. Elaine Guevara studies the source of these adaptations in the genetic code of sifakas (and other primates). Elaine shares how she traveled a complex path to get to Duke University and primate evolution – including a stop by the bug department. Now she’s a lecturer in Evolutionary Anthropology, a researcher at the Duke Lemur Center, and a molecular primatologist! Links to learn more: Profile of Elaine’s research and teaching Elaine’s resea...

Nov 01, 202320 min

S3E5 – Thinking Long-term

Why don’t you see sifakas in most zoos across the US? How do we plan which sifaka have babies, and where those babies will live? DLC Animal Curator Britt Keith not only manages the sifakas living at the DLC, but also collaborates to manage captive Coquerel’s sifakas on an international scale, and she’s here to answer all of our sifaka population management questions. Links to Learn More: Read a DLC Staff Spotlight on Britt Watch Britt in the sifaka transport feature “To Europe, Two by Two” Read ...

Oct 25, 202321 min

S3E4 – Bouncy… Like Tigger

Lemurs can really move. Like jumping-dozens-of-feet-from-tree-to-tree move. Like Tigger on a trampoline move. Dr. Gabe Yapuncich is a researcher at Duke University who is fascinated by this feat of lemur feet. He’s studied lemur bones and watched living lemurs launch off force plates at the Duke Lemur Center to understand how lemurs leap and hold themselves up in a tree, all to sort out the origins of these adaptations in our oldest primate relatives. Links to learn more: Gabe’s Research Page Si...

Oct 18, 202325 min

S3E3 – The Magic Hour

Ever wondered what a lemur that is adapted to conditions across the world in Madagascar eats in the forests of North Carolina? Dr. Lydia Greene wondered that very same thing, and in this interview, she shares new information, anecdotes, and insights she gained over years of studying Coquerel’s sifaka foraging habits at the Duke Lemur Center. Links to learn more: Follow Lydia on Instagram Read Lydia’s paper on sifaka foraging at the DLC Watch Lydia’s virtual presentation on the folivorous sifaka ...

Oct 11, 202322 min

S3E2 – A Lot of Time and Attention

Who better to open this season’s interviews than someone who has spent over a decade caring for Coquerel’s sifakas? Melanie Currie has been a primate technician (AKA animal keeper) at the Duke Lemur Center for 13 years, and we’re so excited to share her insights on these amazing animals with you. Links to learn more: Watch Melanie in action with Pompeia and Francesca The post S3E2 – A Lot of Time and Attention first appeared on Duke Lemur Center ....

Oct 03, 202319 min

S3E1 – The Dancing Lemur

Welcome to season three of Aye-aye Pod. We’re finally getting to the lemur that everyone falls in love with when they visit the Duke Lemur Center: sifakas! We’ll introduce you to these bouncy leaf-munchers who had a starring role in Zoboomafoo. We’ll also dig into their amazing diversity in Madagascar and explore the northwestern forests that Coquerel’s sifakas call home. Links to learn more: Coquerel’s sifaka basics DLC Coquerel’s sifaka introduction Coquerel’s sifaka on the move Baby sifaka tr...

Sep 27, 202321 min

S2E5 – So Many Extinct Lemurs

In the final episode of our season on ring-tailed lemurs, Matt and Megan are joined by biological anthropologist, paleontologist, and primatologist Dr. Laurie Godfrey. Laurie’s decades-long career searching for fossils and the causes of extinction has taken her across the entire island of Madagascar. In this interview she takes us on a journey through the history of the ring-tailed lemur’s native habitat in southern Madagascar and introduces us to some of the giant, extinct lemurs that also call...

Mar 22, 202316 min

S2E4 – What We Have to Do

If you’ve read Allison Jolly’s quintessential book Lords and Lemurs , or perhaps you’ve watched the Island of the Lemurs IMAX film, then you already know this week’s guest. Matt and Megan had the privilege of interviewing Professor Hantanirina Rasamimanana, or Hanta, as she prefers to be called. In addition to decades of studying ring-tailed lemurs in their natural habitat, Hanta has also been an incredible advocate for education and opportunities for Malagasy students, and we are honored to sha...

Mar 14, 202316 min

S2E3 – A Day in the Life

What does it take to care for ring-tailed lemurs a world away from their native Madagascar? Lead Primate Technician Danielle Lynch joins us to discuss the complexities of caring for ring-tailed lemurs at the Duke Lemur Center. Links to learn more: Day in the Life of a Lemur Keeper (video) DLC staff prepare for Hurricane Florence Ring-tailed lemur scent-marking and breeding season Ring-tailed lemur social grooming The post S2E3 – A Day in the Life first appeared on Duke Lemur Center ....

Mar 08, 202322 min

S2E2 – Poop Science

In this episode, Matt and Megan chat with professional researcher, and long-time friend and collaborator of the DLC, Sally Bornbusch, Ph.D. Sally takes us into the fascinating world of microbiomes, and how studying the microorganisms living inside of our beloved ring-tailed lemurs can help us better care for and protect endangered species like them. Links to learn more about topics from this episode: Sally’s current work and recent research “Microbes Matter” article by Sally “Gut Bugs and Poop S...

Mar 01, 202328 min

S2E1 – The Poster Child

From the strangest lemur to the most recognizable – season 2 of Aye-aye Pod is all about ring-tailed lemurs! We see them in zoos around the world, on our screens in films and tv shows, but how much do we really know about these popular primates? In this episode, Matt and Megan set us up for the rest of the season with the basics of ring-tailed lemur ecology, behavior, evolution, and more. Links to learn more about topics from this episode: Ring-tailed lemur info page IUCN Red List Episode 10 of ...

Feb 22, 202322 min

S1E5 – A Series of Random Accidents

And… we’re back! Matt and Megan just couldn’t resist diving back in for one more discussion about our favorite primates, so we thought we’d give you a surprise final episode of our first season – just in time for the holidays! We cover everything from the aye-aye’s recent press for a gross hidden talent, to the surprising creature that shares some of the aye-ayes unique traits, to what the fossil record can (and can’t) tell us about aye-aye evolution. Links to learn more: Aye-aye nose-picking in...

Dec 08, 202227 min

S1Bonus – Nightmare Cupcake

As Matt and Megan recorded the first episode of this season (What Is a Lemur?), they fell down a rabbit hole and into the weird and wonderful realm of tarsiers. The several species of tarsiers living today are so fascinating and mysterious that we decided they needed their own moment in the spotlight. In this bonus episode, we’ll tackle all of the important questions. What are tarsiers? Why are they the odd-primates-out when it comes to classification? And most importantly, are they nightmare fu...

Nov 15, 20228 min

S1E4 – Beautifully Strange

Matt and Megan join two veterinary researchers in Madagascar for a long-distance discussion of aye-ayes at home. Dr. Hoby A. Rasoanaivo , research coordinator for Lemur Love , and Dr. Elodi Rambeloson , research project manager at the Anjajavy reserve , discuss their project to move wild aye-ayes from one forest to another, keeping them safe from the effects of deforestation and climate change. Hoby and Elodi also talk about how the mysterious nocturnal primate earned a dark reputation and how t...

Nov 08, 202215 min

S1E3 A Happy Aye-aye

At the DLC, there’s so much more to animal care than feeding lemurs and cleaning habitats. In this episode, Curator of Behavioral Management and Welfare Meg Dye and Primate Technician Jenna Browning join Matt and Megan to chat about one of our favorite 2022 babies, Binx! Through the story of Binx and his family, we’ll discuss the incredible work that goes into keeping the DLC’s aye-ayes happy and healthy through every stage of life. Links to learn more about topics from this episode: The Value o...

Nov 01, 202225 min

S1E2 Always the Exception

Guest Dr. Adam Hartstone-Rose from North Carolina State University joins Matt and Megan to discuss the amazing anatomy of our favorite lemur (and podcast mascot): the aye-aye! A big fan of bizarre primates, Dr. Hartstone-Rose discusses his research journey to the DLC, how he uses living, dead, and really dead (AKA fossil) specimens to answer big questions in primate anatomy, and how he discovered the aye-aye’s extra thumb! Note: this episode was recorded in May 2022. Links to learn more about to...

Oct 25, 202226 min

S1E1 What Is a Lemur?

On our way to the land of what makes aye-ayes incredible and unique, we must first journey through the territory what makes all lemurs incredible and unique in their own right. Join Education Programs Manager Megan McGrath and DLC Museum of Natural History Curator Matt Borths, Ph.D., as we take a crash course through all of the layers of what it means to be a lemur. Links to learn more about topics from this episode: DLC Museum of Natural History Claws vs. Nails Forward-Facing Eyes DLC Madagasca...

Aug 30, 202230 min

S0E0 Welcome to Aye-aye Pod

Hosts Matt Borths and Megan McGrath welcome listeners to Aye-aye Pod, the official podcast of the Duke Lemur Center. They explain their roles and delve into the center's multifaceted identity, covering its academic affiliation, the unique biology of lemurs, and its comprehensive approach to research, conservation, education, and paleontology under one roof. The episode also shares the hosts' personal journeys to the DLC and teases future discussions with experts on lemur science, conservation, and evolution.

Aug 30, 202218 min
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