>> Chris Dechter: AV Super Friends On Topic is an independent production wholly owned and operated by AV Super Friends llc. For the highest quality recording of all of our shows, visit AVSuperFriends.com this is AV Super Friends on topic, a 30 minute monthly roundtable focused on a single topic. This discussion will be opinionated to the point and saturated with our well known blend of painfully won expertise and deeply ingrained immaturity.
For June 2025, it's the best sounding podcast in higher ed. This is the AV Super Friends On Topic, episode number. What are we up to? 59 of these things, I guess that's like six good ones. Broadcasting live across four time zones, from the coastal range to the heart of the Rockies, from the Great Plains to the rolling blue glass bluegrass hills, just to get a new state. >> Justin Rexing: There you go.
>> Chris Dechter: From the from the Piedmont plateau to our nation's capital, I'm Chris Dechter You're tuned in for another Friday afternoon podcast adventure. Good gravy. >> Justin Rexing: You got it. That's okay. I understood that. >> Chris Dechter: Blue glass hills, blue grass. >> Marc Cholewczynski: You want to try it again? >> Justin Rexing: Say it. Yeah, speak real slow like us, uh, Kentuckians, and you'll be much better off.
>> Chris Dechter: With that in mind, let's say hello to today's panel of AV Super Friends. With this one. Today, I'm joined by the head of Integrated Workflow Visualization Architecture from Kansas City, Mr. Jamie Reinhart. >> Jamie Rinehart: Building Visual Decisions. >> Chris Dechter: Got nothing. >> Jamie Rinehart: That's complicated. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It's dangerous. >> Chris Dechter: Also joined by a manager of AV Convergence
and Platform Continuity from Corvallis, Oregon. Say hello to Mark Cholewczynski. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I cannot make these things m line up. None of this is going to work, my friends. None of it. >> Chris Dechter: Also joined by a director of Synchronized Collaboration Environments from Northern Virginia. Say hello to Rachel Bradshaw. >> Rachel Bradshaw: All together now, everybody. We're gonna circle back on this later.
>> Chris Dechter: The synchronize. Also joined by a global lead for Experience Driven Delivery Systems from Greensboro, North Carolina, Mr. Larry Darling. >> Larry Darling: I really miss the days when my business title was like programmer installer. This is just. >> Chris Dechter: Are these titles too long or just too ridiculous? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, no, they're just.
>> Chris Dechter: Finally, we're joined by our. Our Vice President for Contextual Engagement Technologies from Bowling Green, Kentucky. Who can say bluegrass correctly? Mr. Justin Rexing. >> Justin Rexing: Uh, looks like I got demoted again. It's probably because I didn't show up. >> Chris Dechter: You're a vice president? What? What do you want? >> Justin Rexing: President. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I guess that's the next logical step. Yes.
>> Justin Rexing: Right. >> Rachel Bradshaw: I mean, I'm just Innovation Officer. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There you, um, go. >> Justin Rexing: I guess I didn't context my engagement On Wednesday properly. So I got demoted. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Sure did. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah, right. >> Justin Rexing: I was stuck in a closet from. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Like intern to vice president is like one bad review.
>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, Wednesday was a bad day, but I got through it. Everything's good. >> Chris Dechter: On today's show, we're going to discuss Infocom and then we're going to discuss Infocom and then some more Infocom. Because that's the theme. Infocom. >> Justin Rexing: Okay. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's what we've been. >> Chris Dechter: And so we have some, uh, some top tips on how to get the most
out of the show. And we're also going to talk about what all the AV Super Friends are doing at Infocom, both individually and as a group. But first, not the news. It's some housekeeping. Uh, so first of all, if you're listening to this As a recorded MP3, we do stream live on Fridays at about 3:30 or whenever I get my act together and when I don't find myself stuck in a airport, uh, lounge like last week. Um, yeah, this, this
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>> Chris Dechter: I do constantly. Because some of us actually read. >> Justin Rexing: So just to make sure, like, we're checking our mail, we're doing the due diligence. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes. >> Chris Dechter: And now, before we get to the news, we're going to force you to listen to a commercial where Jamie's going to tell you why you should write emails in and all that fun stuff. >> Marc Cholewczynski: We are. >> Justin Rexing: Here we go.
>> Jamie Rinehart: As many of you know, the Super Friends have always been better received when we have more input from you. So here's your chance. Send us a note at mailbagvsuperfriends.com and get involved with the show. We're looking for some topics to discuss, some fellow nerds to talk to or just general AV awesomeness to brag about. But remember, we'll probably steal your ideas. And I suppose we'd take some criticism, but
that wouldn't be very nice. Anyway, drop us a Note@mailbag bsuperfriends.com and find out how quickly we ask you to join this nonsense. >> Chris Dechter: All right, now that that nonsense is. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Done doing this nonsense, that's how join. >> Chris Dechter: Join in on this nonsense. And, uh, now, because you've waited for it all week, it's the news. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah. What do we got in the news? I'm excited.
>> Chris Dechter: And today's news comes from Linked. I think it was, Well, I guess LinkedIn. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Barry Lincoln. >> Chris Dechter: It was on LinkedIn. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Oh. >> Chris Dechter: Um, but actually comes from our friends at Caster Communications. And we said, hey, we know this author. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Oh, yes, we do. >> Chris Dechter: She's over. She's over. Wait, over on this side.
>> Jamie Rinehart: She's here. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Who, me? >> Chris Dechter: You're published now, so our news is news that we're just making. So, Rachel, you wrote an article on the five tips for a breakthrough Infocom. So summarize in four seconds. >> Rachel Bradshaw: All right, high level, go to the back of the hall and see the. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Little booths acquisition row. We refer to that as acquisitions.
>> Rachel Bradshaw: This is. So I'm stealing this directly from Bill Nattress, who told me this at my first show ever. Um, but it's advice that I've gotten over and over again from the smartest people in the industry. Paul Zealy said the same thing to me, like, a week ago, that it's where all the cool stuff is. >> Marc Cholewczynski: So how long was that phone call by the way. >> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah. He told you that? >> Rachel Bradshaw: 90 minutes and three hours.
>> Chris Dechter: How did he have time to talk with you? Let's talk with him. >> Justin Rexing: Like three hours this week. Would you talk to him seriously? >> Rachel Bradshaw: I'm just fairly certain he does not sleep, that guy. >> Chris Dechter: He's. He's. We love Paul, but he is quite garrulous. >> Justin Rexing: He never leaves that damn computer either. He's always in front of it.
>> Rachel Bradshaw: He's actually an avid gardener and he keeps bees anyway. >> Marc Cholewczynski: At what time? >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, sailboats too. >> Rachel Bradshaw: That's the news section. Uh, circling back. Speaking of bees, look for cross pollination. Um, because sometimes the most interesting stuff on the show floor actually came in from another industry that's like, hey, what's Infocom? What are these pro
people? So, like, often, sometimes it's startups, but sometimes it's companies that are established elsewhere and have decided to come to Infocom for the first time. Those shows, those booze are always worth a look. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Those are the weird ones. You're like, what is. Why is this weird refrigerator company in the middle of the show floor? Like, let me go see what's going on over there. >> Chris Dechter: Oh, it's. It's the famous toilet to see.
>> Rachel Bradshaw: Why is. Why is nice at Infocom? Why is Sonos at Infocom? I don't know. Uh, three. Find a tribe of curious people. For me, I never have as much time on the show floor as I want, so I have to find somebody else who has also seen parts of the show floor to tell me, like, what I. How I need to spend my time. What they saw, that was cool. And also to get their perspective on things that I saw were cool. If they think they're cool
too, like, that's, that's important. It really helps you filter the. The whole mess. 4. >> Chris Dechter: So Rachel, on that one, you're saying, like, outsource some of your. Your show floor exploration to other people. You draw every year. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Crowd source. Use these. >> Chris Dechter: I'm going to have them. I'm not helping. >> Justin Rexing: See everybody on this screen right here. >> Chris Dechter: M. Where.
>> Justin Rexing: That's my crowdsource. >> Jamie Rinehart: We are. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah, seriously specifically listed the people on this screen as my crowdsource for the show. But in the past, it's like the very first time I ever had a useful experience on the show floor. It's because I grabbed Joe Bocchiaro and I said, joe, Joe, show me what's important. And he took me around the show floor and he showed me what was important.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Can you describe a useless situation on the show floor? >> Rachel Bradshaw: I mean, I don't think I have to I'm fairly sure everybody on the panel and listening can imagine very accurately for themselves. >> Justin Rexing: But if someone hasn't gone through that and they want to know what a useless experience that.
>> Rachel Bradshaw: Let's say you walk up to a booth and you can't find anybody to talk to you, or you just see like a wall of black boxes and you don't know what any of them are, and the labeling doesn't mean anything, or you're just walking past a. >> Jamie Rinehart: Your only interaction was a scanning gu. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, yes. >> Larry Darling: Or laser tag. >> Justin Rexing: But worse, you can't get out of.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Because they won't let you go. And like, none of this applies to me. I just want to leave. >> Justin Rexing: Like, they want to show you every badge. I don't really care about this VGA switch. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Like, look, I've been legitimately trying to go through this quickly, but if
you want me to slow down, I will tell you. At one point, I brought my beloved spouse with me to Infocom because I wanted him to see what this industry I had been working in for a decade. >> Justin Rexing: Did he ever come back? Did he come back? >> Rachel Bradshaw: He did. Because Infocon is sometimes in Las Vegas and that's fine. But he be. I got him a. He got a badge, and his badge said that he was a government contractor that worked for a large government contracting company.
And talk about a. Sounds like on the show floor. Like, we. We could not escape any booth with our life. >> Marc Cholewczynski: We got printing Mr. Money bags. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Company spends a lot like shopping like, beers and um, shotch keys and like. And he kept saying like, I'm. I'm not. I don't have any specifying authority. And they were like, that's okay. Tell your boss. Here's the sweatshirt. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Sign up for this iPad giveaway.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Here's the stack of cards. Just give them out. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Justin Rexing: He's like, no, I just work. I work security. Like, I don't even, you know. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes. Okay. Like you were saying. Sorry to interrupt you. >> Rachel Bradshaw: No, no, no, not at all. >> Justin Rexing: Stay on topic. This is on topic. >> Rachel Bradshaw: And this comes from my, my
personal bias. From like, how I entered this industry and how I got to know all of you. But there are so many smart people at Infocom. Like, I've been name dropping a lot of them, but they're all people I met through the show. You have, uh, the smartest people in the industry. They're all there. And a lot of them very generously are there specifically in order to donate their time to make you smarter. So you gotta take advantage of that while you're there.
There the Conference program is really, really good. The people who put it together are amazing and I can say that totally shamelessly now that I'm not one of them anymore. But like that, that team of people absolutely rules. They really care. They're really careful about how they put the program together.
So I would absolutely recommend if you have like the, the professional development dollars and the, the time, um, you're especially if you're going to get in on Tuesday because they kick the program off early now. Definitely get the conference program and take in the sessions that are relevant to you. But there are also, there's more and more every year really good content on the
show floor itself too. And it's usually really snappy, like these 20 to 40 minute programs where you can go, you can hear people do some of that like breaking down the show floor for you, talking about what they think, what they think is trending, where to go to see interesting things on the show floor. There's a lot of that kind of content on like the innovation stage and places like that. And also like those are those smart
people that are there to educate you. You can always pin them down after they're done talking and get the end, like meet them and network one on one and get like a deeper perspective on the issues that are most relevant to you. Which is actually point the fifth, which is use, use the opportunity to get social
and not just in that social media way. Like we all love an AV selfie, but it is the, I mean I think the, the paramount value of in person trade shows is that human to human connection on the show floor, at lunch, at coffee, in the bar, after the show, at the parties, like building those relationships with people who you will then be able to pick up the phone and call the rest of the. That's what, that's worth the price of admission.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: That's all that water cooler talk is really important.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, I know several times I've stood there and talked to somebody like that after a presentation or something and then as they walk away, I don't know, I, I know this person just did this presentation, but I don't really know who they are and they don't really come out and tell you who they are and they walk away and all of a sudden somebody else comes up and Rachel's like, dude, you know that
was, that's he created. And you're like, oh my God, I feel like a moron talking to the. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Man that invented co. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Brunette. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yes, yes, Rich Weibel. He rules. >> Jamie Rinehart: And you're just like, uh, well I Must have sounded like a. >> Rachel Bradshaw: No, this is a good pro tip, actually combining the like social with the. The like real social
with the digital social. Um, so somebody showed me this trick at an Infocom, but like, when you're talking to that person that you think is cool and interesting, have your LinkedIn app on your phone, pull up the QR code scanner, scan their LinkedIn app, and you will be LinkedIn connections. And then you know who they are. >> Justin Rexing: The new business card. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah. You get a portrait of their professional history and
you can contact them later. So, like, if every time you're talking to somebody remotely, it feels like a pro tip. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Get your LinkedIn house in order and prep. >> Chris Dechter: Sounds like LinkedIn has a scanner app. >> Larry Darling: Yeah, it does. I started using it last year, I think. >> Jamie Rinehart: And it's also amazing how many people find new employment. >> Justin Rexing: That's at the show.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, like, like the next month. You're like the, the carousel happens and you're like, oh, interesting. I wonder where they made that connection. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It's part of the game. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Very true story. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Very cool. That was it. That was the five. >> Chris Dechter: So I know we did blast through those. Is there anything else you wanted to add to that, Rachel?
>> Marc Cholewczynski: That was quick. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah, well, okay, I'm. >> Chris Dechter: Since the link is in the show. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Notes, I know better than to ever take anything you say seriously. Like, where. What have I been paying attention to for the last seven years? But, um, okay, what I will say is you, you can find me at the show. I'll be there, uh, along with all these crazy, crazy crowd. Um, and I have a couple of
sessions that I'm moderating. I'm. I'm lucky. I get to ask the smartest people, uh, in the industry questions on stage because I have, I have them captive at the head of the room, which is. >> Jamie Rinehart: Wait a minute. >> Rachel Bradshaw: A real joy. M. So I have two sessions that I'm moderating. I'm moderating, optimize or leveraging technology for live events. Uh, that's going to be one of those conference sessions that's on
Wednesday. Yeah, Wednesday at 11:00am um, and that's going to be, I think, a really cool session. We have Julie Legolt in there, who is the Save advance ambassador for Canada. Um, we have Ray Kent, who I'm sure a lot of you know and have heard of. Uh, and we also have Wynn Johnson, who is, uh, with Freeman. And I'm, I'm excited about this because, like, who knows, who knows more about the role of technology and sustainability and live events than Freeman? So should be a really good One.
And then I'll be on the innovation stage on Thursday at 11:30, uh, talking to a pretty cool group of people about enterprise it, including Kat Taub from odd, Nate, I've got Rupin Jane from, uh, Frost and Sullivan, who's an analyst, so she'll have a really good global perspective. Uh, Pratik Chanda from Cisco, and Dave Hatz from cti. So that's going to be. That should be a fun one. And that's one of those, like, snappy show floor
sessions. It's just 45 minutes, um, right on the technology innovation stage, which is booth 2461. So that's. That's my promo reel. Thanks, guys. >> Justin Rexing: I've had enough on, um, enterprise networks for about a year. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Can you ever have enough? Yes. >> Chris Dechter: They're. They're not. Yeah, we're done with those. We're not using them. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Never going to catch them. >> Larry Darling: It's a fad.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: All right, so I'm going to add a free bonus sixth tip to Rachel's, like, five tips. The sixth one is don't skip Friday, everyone who leaves early. First of all, you're scum. And, um, I mean that from the bottom of my heart. >> Justin Rexing: Uh, I'm always. >> Marc Cholewczynski: We're losing listeners. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: Because, well, they. I don't want to. I don't want them listening.
>> Justin Rexing: I got you. >> Chris Dechter: You do your job. The next week you're at Infocom, sir. So you do Infocom stuff. >> Justin Rexing: I got stuff happening. >> Chris Dechter: Uh, the, the show floor because all the vendors are still there by contract. The show floor is much m. Like more laid back. It's much cooler. You can get around. I mean, what I used to do when I first started going Infocom 17 years ago, whatever it was.
The first couple days, you make note of things you want to see, and then you go back on Friday and you can hit 15 booths in two hours sort of thing. And by that point, people are just like, they want to get in and out and talk with you. They're not going to waste your time. >> Rachel Bradshaw: People will make time to talk to you. >> Larry Darling: Exactly. The engineers will be there at that point and you can talk to them.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, they're. They're not worried about selling you. They don't want to go back to work. They want to actually talk about stuff. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, yeah. >> Chris Dechter: So I always say it, Friday is the best day. Um, A.B. super friends are doing a bunch of stuff on Friday. We'll talk about that in a moment. But yeah, don't, don't miss Friday. Don't, don't bail out so stick around. >> Justin Rexing: I'll be there.
>> Chris Dechter: This. All right, so, uh, we are going to, uh, talk about now what the rest of the AV Super Friends are doing individually and, um, as a group. We're doing a lot that week. Um. Oh, I almost forgot. But first, debut this new thing first. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Because we just keep it tight. >> Chris Dechter: It's a topic of the month. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Keep us focused here, Chris. >> Chris Dechter: Okay, I've got a. I've got a,
uh, shared spreadsheet. I'll put in the chat for everyone to reference here. I, um, think what we'll do is we'll just go through this like in. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Let's just. Yeah, let's get. >> Chris Dechter: Um. So let's start with Justin, who is there six weeks early. His. His. You're an. >> Justin Rexing: For leaving on Friday. We'll get there on Friday when I get there. And then you run out of underwear and then you got to do laundry. So it's a whole thing.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: There's going to be the whole booth with smart washers and dryers. I expect you to be your laundry. >> Chris Dechter: That's a really smart. >> Justin Rexing: You ask the hotel like, can I use your washer and dryer? They look at you like you're an idiot. Like they don't have. >> Chris Dechter: Do you not have enough clothes? Is that what you're saying? >> Jamie Rinehart: Just go down the swimming pool and put it in.
Chlorine will take out. Don't worry about it. >> Justin Rexing: I got. I bought more. I'm. I'm equipped. >> Chris Dechter: I know. Three pairs of socks. All right, so, Justin, starting on Saturday, let's, uh, start with you. You're teaching a three day course. What three day course are you doing? >> Justin Rexing: Three day course. We're teaching the how to manage staff and spaces. Again. Uh, we're going to be talking. >> Chris Dechter: That's not what it's called.
>> Justin Rexing: Managing AV Staff work. Managing staff and space. That's short. >> Chris Dechter: Right. >> Justin Rexing: Standard operating procedures. We like drill that in your head. Day one, we go over it, over it and over it and over it. And then that's applied through the rest of the class where we talk about stakeholder engagement, staff development. Um, let's see, what else do we cover? Incident management. And there's a conclusion at the end. That's always.
>> Chris Dechter: That's where you want conclusion. >> Justin Rexing: Important conflict management is in there. And that's the main sections of what we talk. It's a good class. It's not. You're not sitting there the whole time. It's very, very active. It sells out every year. So, you know, get in line next year. You're already too Late. >> Chris Dechter: You're too late, sir. Actually, is yours. Is yours sold out? You know?
>> Justin Rexing: Yeah, sure. It's sold out again. >> Chris Dechter: So this. This promo is for next year for 2026. Sign up for Justin's class on whatever that is. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, if they don't fire me, which they shouldn't. Should be here next year. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Pro tip. They usually have, like, one extra seat that they can squeeze somebody in if you just show up or demand to be moved in. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, just push it.
>> Justin Rexing: They can probably make accommodations and break. >> Chris Dechter: Ticket prices are higher at the door, but yeah, yeah, they'll get you. >> Justin Rexing: So, yeah, uh, it's a good class. It's fun. >> Chris Dechter: Okay. >> Justin Rexing: Enjoy teaching it. >> Chris Dechter: And you're teaching that with. >> Justin Rexing: With, uh, Justin and Justin show.
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, he's a great teacher. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Dream team. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, man. It's great. >> Chris Dechter: Great. >> Justin Rexing: It's awesome. So, uh, and then I'm spent, and that's why I don't really do anything. >> Chris Dechter: And then you're leaving. >> Marc Cholewczynski: He's gonna be blown out, and you're gonna be limping around for the rest of the.
>> Justin Rexing: No, I'm on meds for that now. Like, yeah, we're gonna be okay this year. And I basically just follow these guys around and try to keep up with them the best I can. >> Marc Cholewczynski: And let's play a little game called what malady will Justin have that week? >> Chris Dechter: We'll get you a chair. How about that? All right. And then I think. I think next on the order of. Of operations here, I think Mark, uh, and Ra are doing a panel on.
Is it Tuesday? Right. Get that right. >> Rachel Bradshaw: This is. This is just the Mark show. Mark into this. And then I, uh, ran away Rachel. >> Chris Dechter: Shanghai Mark into a panel. >> Jamie Rinehart: I think the story of how this. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Happened is almost more important than whatever this actually is, whatever it may be.
>> Chris Dechter: First of all, what is your panel? When is your panel? And then you can give us the story how you got tricked into, uh, this. I believe the official title is optimizing things for stuff. >> Marc Cholewczynski: You're not too far wrong panel. >> Jamie Rinehart: I'm sure that one's. >> Chris Dechter: Yes, I got optimizing in there. That's as far as I got. It's pretty close. Optimizing esports or AV for esports. Optimizing AV for esports.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Tuesday at. What was that? >> Chris Dechter: 11, 1 o' clock. >> Marc Cholewczynski: 1:11 is not me on stage talking my way through that with people that be far smarter than I am them about esports and events, which I do have some. Some experience with, I guess. But yeah, that'll be fun. One to explore all those Complicated technologies about how esports and production profiles and all that. That whole squishy yucky mess of technology and events. Right.
>> Justin Rexing: So Mark, if I want to be a Rocket League expert, I need to come to your session. Right? Is that. >> Rachel Bradshaw: That's right, yes. But not from Mark. Probably from Josh. Cal. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, Josh. And. But maybe not Rocket League specifically, but uh, the inner workings of had that in a large capacity venue and the complexity of actually telling that story. I think that is. >> Justin Rexing: There you go.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: This whole thing. So be there. Have fun with that. >> Chris Dechter: And uh, that's Tuesday one. >> Marc Cholewczynski: And where was the room it's going to be in which room? >> Rachel Bradshaw: It was the 312AB. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There it is. >> Chris Dechter: That was closer than what I was going to guess. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes. >> Jamie Rinehart: And Josh Kel is worth the admission.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, I'm going just for that because that was the only way I can. >> Jamie Rinehart: Get to tag along. But Josh is worth the talk. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There was on the panel. I didn't notice. >> Chris Dechter: Take your chair and just turn it around so you can watch the panel. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, yeah. >> Rachel Bradshaw: PTZ Optics will be there too. And she's a lot of fun like this. It should be a fun show.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, that'd be a fun conversation. >> Chris Dechter: Um, then next thing I think on our list. So. And this will be the same thing every morning. So we are doing uh, twice daily. We're doing the whole AV Super Friends, um, are doing a morning show and an afternoon show. Um, from the show floor. We're kind of moving. Move them around. But uh, so Wednesday, Thursday and Friday morning at 8 o' clock or as soon as we can actually get things rolling.
>> Justin Rexing: And an afternoon afternoon show. >> Chris Dechter: And an afternoon show. And you have to be there on Friday. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Take your meds, Justin. >> Justin Rexing: And you guys just demoted me. >> Chris Dechter: I don't think you were ever el presidente. I think you're making that up. Um, so we're doing a morning show. The morning shows are every morning are from the same location. We're going to be doing it
from the computer, uh, Comforts booth. Which is. Someone help me out here. I've got too many windows open. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, that's. We went through. >> Chris Dechter: Nobody wrote any of this down. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Except we would assume. >> Chris Dechter: Uh, that's from 508. So 508-78-00am or thereabouts. Early. So early, early, early. The whole point of this is we get that done, published and out before most
you're even out of bed. That's right. So we are talking about what's going on that day, what we've seen all that stuff. What we're looking for up and coming events and all that, that day. So that is published almost in real time. So and if the Internet is partially useful, we'll stream it too. >> Rachel Bradshaw: So it's your built in tribe of curious people. You can just like pop in your, your earbuds as you're walking, entering the show floor and the AVC hitting post.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, and that's what we're gonna do. >> Chris Dechter: It uh, then let's see. I've got a, um. See, is that on? Oh boy, I better get this right. Which day am I on here? Hold on. No I'm not. I'm m looking at the calendar and it's wrong. It got, it got rescheduled there. I just moved it. Look at that. Okay, um, then that afternoon. So Wednesday afternoon. Wednesday afternoon we are doing a, Our afternoon podcast is from Catchbox, uh, which is booth
4375. We'll uh, be doing that at three o' clock. And so you'll see, start to see a theme here. 8:00am and then 3:00 clock. So we're going to bookend the uh, each day there. Um, and then on Wednesday and this will be interesting because at 4 o' clock I'm doing a session upstairs in some room here. I'm in room W315A and B. Um, and my session is creating an improved teaching and learning experience with automated cameras. That's actually, there's a typo
in there. It's automatic cameras. Um, so we're going to be talking about auto framing, auto tracking, um, auto presets, all that fun stuff and how we're deploying these in teaching and learning spaces, meeting spaces and all that. Um, so I'm teaching that one or I'm leading that one, then presenting that with uh, with Jonathan Moore who uh, from Q. Uh, Sys. It is not a Q Sys sales pitch. Um, this is about all sorts
of stuff. We're going to talk about things from Sony and Panasonic and AMX and Huddle Biamp, all those dangerous, all those different ones out there and when these, when these work and you know where the right scenarios for them and when they don't and you know all that fun stuff. So nice. Um, come to that one because you'll have lots of questions. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Because you said so. >> Chris Dechter: Because I said so.
All right, so that's at 4 o' clock and then uh, let's see. And then think the next morning we're back at Computer comforts at uh, 8 o' clock. Start off the show there again. Um, what. And People are just looking at stuff on the Internet. Are you bored? What's, what's on TikTok right now? You want a doom square roll? >> Justin Rexing: Somebody, Somebody sending me text messages. Hold on. >> Marc Cholewczynski: And all that was text messages. >> Justin Rexing: It was a video.
>> Chris Dechter: Uh, let's see what else here then. We've got a. Um, I'm on a panel on Thursday at noon and I mentioned that Thursday, noon panel, free lunch. Oh, free lunch with who? Free lunch. And while you're there you have to listen to me blather with other people. Um, and that is the. I will post that link in the show notes. Um, uh, so you have to register for that one because there's free lunch and so there's limited seating in the sense where they can only get free
lunch for like 100 plus people. But uh, um, we'll figure it out. So that's Thursday at noon. Um, wait a minute. Is this right? Yes. >> Marc Cholewczynski: You're driving. >> Justin Rexing: I thought we had this. >> Chris Dechter: Well no, no, what I'm looking at is the form I've been saying here stuff doesn't look accurate. Anyway, um, I'll uh, post a link in the show notes. And this is about creating large volume learning and event spaces, um,
with uh, AV technology on our classroom. So um, lecture halls, multipurpose spaces, all the, all the ones we hate and how we're doing spaces, your favorite. Um, yes, I'm gonna do that. Just go into that. So let's see what else we got there then. Uh, the afternoon at 3 o' clock we're doing our podcast from the booth at Q Sys. I'm um, not sure what that booth looks like. We will be somewhere at the booth there. Last year we were
on top of the booth throwing things down onto people. But I don't know if it's a dual level booth this year or not. >> Justin Rexing: So that was kind of sketchy. Too little. >> Chris Dechter: They did have a sign that said like maximum occupancy of like 18 and there was 250. >> Larry Darling: Like they ignored the macum. Yeah, people just kept coming up. >> Chris Dechter: Uh, so that'll be from three to four on uh, on Thursday.
And then Friday we're doing our early morning show again. So you have to be there on Friday. Um, and then we've got two more things for you. On Friday we have our, our, our famous show, ah, floor tour of stuff you didn't see. And we can't even tell you what's going to be on that tour yet because we don't know until we get there and go through the show. Floor and find the things that we want you to see. So we have to go find them the first
two days and then on Friday we go show you those things. And they are most likely things that you missed because they're, they may be in a big company's, you know, big booth, but it's going to be that thing in the back. They don't even know what they have. It's, you know, so it's, it's the interesting stuff, it's the stuff that you missed. It's the stuff that you overlook looked because you were, you were going gaga over the moving LED wall, which probably won't be on that, that tour.
Um, and where is that tour starting? What did we decide? That one is starting at 10 o' clock. No. Is that right? 10 o' clock? 11 o' clock. Sorry, 11 o' clock on Friday at the Hetma booth, which is booth 4080. >> Rachel Bradshaw: 4887. >> Chris Dechter: 4887. >> Justin Rexing: There we go. >> Chris Dechter: That was when we had bad, um, then right after that. >> Marc Cholewczynski: And then you're gonna follow us around the tour. We're gonna go to every.
>> Chris Dechter: The tour is going to end at The Avixa Ah, TV booth, which is 7861 if you do want to catch us there. And at one o' clock we are live on Avixa TV doing basically this nonsense that we do all the time that Avixa for some reason is okay with us doing from their booth, God bless them. So we're kicking off their afternoon kind of show, show closing streaming block that they do
all Friday afternoon. They're gonna bring a bunch of people on talking about stuff. Well, we're kicking that one off at one o' clock and they'll have to um, clean uh, up afterwards of course, but um, that'll be an interest. What the hell's going on here? What is that? >> Rachel Bradshaw: You've given the camera thumbs up. Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: That was neat. How'd I do it? >> Justin Rexing: You did your thumbs up. Wave. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's AI helping.
>> Justin Rexing: Did you see somebody waving? Dude? See, there you go. >> Chris Dechter: Things I didn't know I head, um. >> Jamie Rinehart: Why doesn't my apple do that? >> Chris Dechter: So if you're on the tour, we will end the tour there. And at one o' clock we'll do that. If you're not on the tour, you want to meet us there, you can meet us at the uh, the um, vixa, uh, TV booth there. I didn't do a thumbs up there. >> Marc Cholewczynski: What happened?
>> Rachel Bradshaw: Sense your enthusiasm, Chris. It knows you're thinking that this stuff is. >> Larry Darling: I'm thinking about thumbs up likes the tour idea. >> Chris Dechter: Um, we will have. Unfortunately there is limited, limited seating there they the numbers. We think we can get about 50 people at the Avixa booth. Avixa TV booth, both seated and standing room only. There is going to be registration for that. So look for that on the socials. We will post that.
That eventbrite link so you can register for that and get a, uh, and get in. Now if you want to stand around outside that really crowded in and make the fire marshal get nervous, you're welcome to do so. But within the building. >> Jamie Rinehart: But you bring in a fat head sign of Chris, we'll get you in. >> Justin Rexing: Oh, we'll get you in. >> Rachel Bradshaw: On the lap of another consenting ad.
>> Larry Darling: We also saw there are extra seats on the stage, so we'll just bring you up. >> Marc Cholewczynski: We do have like a sports center kind of thing set up. >> Chris Dechter: You guys are just giving away stuff at this point, so knock it off. >> Justin Rexing: Just, um, just making stuff up so. >> Chris Dechter: Well, Justin, if you attended meetings, we would. You'd know about this.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: But we may call on random people and you will be brought up. >> Chris Dechter: Yes. >> Marc Cholewczynski: This will not have a choice. >> Chris Dechter: Active show because we want you. We want to hear what you saw at Infocom and hear about your interesting stories and tales. Hopefully you're following Rachel's top five tips and you got a good Infocom out of. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There will be a test.
>> Chris Dechter: Um, and then one more thing that we're doing, and it's not just one, it's like 20. We're doing a whole bunch of recordings from the show floor all week long all over the place. We will be releasing those as we're there. So make sure you're subscribed. You're going to just get a flood of content from the booth as we talk with people and find interesting people, interesting services, interesting topics, interesting
products. We're going to be looking for all that fun stuff and getting that out there on our feed. So just get subscribed. It's all going to go out on that main feed there. So. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes. >> Chris Dechter: All right. That is the eight days at Infocom because, Justin, you can't leave early days of Infocom. >> Justin Rexing: That's just a brief summary though. We got a lot more to do than that. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Oh, there's a lot.
>> Chris Dechter: Yes, there's a lot more going on. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Working the entire time. >> Chris Dechter: So it is a busy time. It's a worthwhile, uh, time and uh, hopefully, um, you all enjoy it as well. So. All right, now to the rest of the panel. What did I forget? What are we missing? What do we need to plug? What are we doing? All that fun stuff. >> Justin Rexing: Well, I think a couple of us are actually bringing people. >> Chris Dechter: People.
>> Justin Rexing: I'm first time I'm bringing one of my employees to go through CTS prep. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That'll be cool. >> Justin Rexing: And take their CTA with Chuck. >> Larry Darling: Nice. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Nice. >> Justin Rexing: And he's gonna pass his test and then he's fired. CTSD. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Chuck has very nearly 100 pass rate for students who take his prep class.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Well, that's because he logs it on the back end. It just clears them. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah, he's got give away the secret sauce. >> Justin Rexing: No, Chuck's a great teacher for that. So it's. >> Jamie Rinehart: Yes, he is. He's a lot of fun too. It's. >> Justin Rexing: I can't wait. >> Chris Dechter: I'm.
>> Justin Rexing: I'm actually really excited about it to try to get some more knowledge up here in Bowling Green, Kentucky for the right way to do av, so. >> Larry Darling: Nice. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There you go. Finally just going to have somebody there. Right Way to do this. >> Justin Rexing: I just need to branch, um, out some knowledge here. >> Marc Cholewczynski: You know, you're doing your best. The next generation of AB
professionals. I love it. >> Justin Rexing: Gotta groom them, right? >> Chris Dechter: Who else is, who else is sneaking staff in, hoping that they can find another job and maybe they'll even cast them away? >> Rachel Bradshaw: I have two colleagues that are coming with me. Megan Jackson and Alex Crab. And you can pry them from my cold, dead hands. Alex is actually
my boss, so I don't think she's going anywhere. But, um, they'll be, they'll be around the show floor and they won't. At least Alex doesn't have, uh, as many, as many speaking obligations as I do. So if you like. She is, she is brilliant. I have learned so much from working with her for the past five years. So if you have any like, questions about how uh, to like grow your business or like do social media, better marketing plans, like all of that stuff.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Um, but honestly, talk to Alex about it and I'll happily connect anybody who wants to talk to her. >> Jamie Rinehart: I need to come on the show and help us out. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah, I think that might be right. >> Justin Rexing: Let's do it. Book it. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. Justin, what's that critical message you just got?
>> Justin Rexing: I'm, um, trying to find it. I keep hearing a ding, but I don't. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Oh, that's. I'm sorry, it's me. I need to be silent. >> Justin Rexing: I was like, I was like, my phone's on silent. I keep hearing texts like, what the hell is. >> Rachel Bradshaw: I've just been letting it go and blaming it on Justin. Like when you fart in the field. >> Justin Rexing: Like, working on something right now. And I got, like.
>> Chris Dechter: Rachel, it worked because your phone beeped. I heard it. And Justin's looking at his. I assumed it was Justin. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It worked. Successfully. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Innocent is the key to getting away with 99% of what you want to do on life. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, we got a couple extra folks coming, I think. Donnie, Don's coming. Lawrence keep you. >> Chris Dechter: Larry, you bringing any, uh, any minions with you?
>> Larry Darling: Uh, I've got two people coming with me, so I'll have my attention split again as normal. >> Justin Rexing: Is that the same people or new people this year? You leave the. What do you. >> Chris Dechter: What. >> Justin Rexing: How are you doing that? >> Chris Dechter: He leaves. >> Larry Darling: I am. I bring half my team to one Infocom and then half my team to the next Infocom, and we just keep cycling it out. So you're either on the Orlando
schedule. Schedule or the Vegas schedule, depending on if you have kids and what you want to do in life. >> Justin Rexing: Oh, so that's a choice. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Justin Rexing: Okay. All right. I got you. >> Chris Dechter: Depending on how comfortable you are with late nights. >> Justin Rexing: But one person can't have Orlando and Vegas at any time. >> Larry Darling: Oh, no, that's.
>> Justin Rexing: That's. Unless you trade seats with someone. And then maybe, uh, we have had. >> Larry Darling: Bartering kind of barter a little bit, because there are some people that had not been to Vegas and did not know what Vegas was and decided Vegas wasn't for them. Them. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. So, yeah, if you like sticky floors and cigarette smoke. Vegas, they're. >> Marc Cholewczynski: They're definitely different shows.
>> Chris Dechter: They sticky. >> Justin Rexing: Florida. I just. >> Rachel Bradshaw: They're just sticky for different reasons. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, it's different sticky, but they're still sticky. It's just. >> Larry Darling: The end result's the same. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Just same thing. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Marc Cholewczynski: How Questioning our decisions. Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: All right, Jamie, Anybody else coming along?
Nope. >> Jamie Rinehart: I'm still trying. >> Marc Cholewczynski: He's gonna be there. Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: Oh, Jamie has, uh, logistics to figure out. >> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, I have logistics to figure out because I'm one of those people that have too many things on my plate, and they all converge the second week of June. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Rude thing to call your children.
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Jamie Rinehart: No, no. That's actually pretty nice right now. At this point in time, I'm being kind, but, uh, And. And no. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Um. >> Jamie Rinehart: And I've got some folks that I want to. To have some training opportunities and things, and. And we're shuffling around. I want to reward them all probably next year with a trip and take their CTs. >> Justin Rexing: It's always next year with you, Jamie. It's all next year.
>> Jamie Rinehart: And they kind of Agreed. They're like, hey, we want to catch up on these other things. We spread them out throughout the course of the year. >> Justin Rexing: Is next year Vegas? Yeah, let's wait until next year. >> Jamie Rinehart: That was the choice. Okay, but if I'm going to bring you. You're taking the test. >> Chris Dechter: Are you standing outside the door?
>> Jamie Rinehart: Oh, m. I'll sit there. Then as they come out, if they fail, they can go ahead and go down to the road, get themselves a. >> Chris Dechter: Job, go look for a new job. >> Justin Rexing: Go fly home, sit there with the. >> Chris Dechter: Uh, with the hr, uh portal open. Just like. >> Jamie Rinehart: No, serious. We're uh, we're trying to work through some of that, that training. Sometimes you got to travel in other times and.
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Jamie Rinehart: And choose. So that's where we're at with them. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Okay, cool. About you, Chris. >> Chris Dechter: Uh, just me. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Just you. >> Chris Dechter: I will phrase it this way. I don't know. You know, a lot of people treat Infocom and trade shows and conferences differently. It is not a vacation. It's not a vacation. >> Justin Rexing: It's a lot of work.
>> Chris Dechter: I, I do not believe in the, I do not believe in like the rewarding staff by sending them to a vacation. Um, if you're there, you're, you're, you're working. Um, if you're not putting in 60 hours and you're not working enough. Enough. Um, it's a, it's a busy time. So yeah, we'll get there. 60 seems your days. >> Rachel Bradshaw: It is long and it is hard. >> Justin Rexing: Because it's day and night. It's like ah, it's like
an 18 hour day. It's, it's not always fun. >> Chris Dechter: Um, but no, kind of similar to Jamie. I've got a couple of people that were, that were kind of preparing for these sorts of things in the coming years. So um, they'll start to be a bigger crowd. Um, uh, uh, there from, for my team. But for this year it's just me. >> Jamie Rinehart: I'm excited to share it with them but it's just I need them to have the other things first. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. Prerequisites.
>> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: Well, I want to make sure it's useful for him too because I mean I, I, I'll be brutally honest. The first time I went to come in like 2006 maybe. I didn't know. Just uh, I, it was probably not a great time for me to, to go because it's like I did not, I was not able to be as effective there as I should have been having never been there. So. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah, you need context for what you're.
>> Justin Rexing: Looking at that your first time is really that. >> Chris Dechter: I just think it was my first time and this is a giant event sort of thing. But like, I wasn't where I should be in my career at that point to like really know how what I'm looking for and all that stuff. >> Justin Rexing: So I mean, I. It's probably like that for most people. Yeah, it's like overwhelming. It's like, uh, ah, maybe I shouldn't be here.
>> Jamie Rinehart: This is, that's why I kind of like what I kind of like what Larry does is, is like he spends that whole day and says, okay, this is how we traverse this, this, this maze. Like, this is how you get through the registration and this is how you take courses and this is how you meet the vendors and get yourself a dinner. And this is how you talk through some of the challenges you've had, you know, and share ideas. I like what Larry does with his staff and when he brings
them down. I had the same thing. I went in and was like, oh, look at all the toys and didn't really understand what I was in for. >> Rachel Bradshaw: Yeah. Navigating a trade show is a skill. You have to be taught how to do it. It really, no matter where you are. >> Justin Rexing: In your career, learn the hard way. One or learn the hard way. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Um, life skills. >> Justin Rexing: That's how I did it. Learned the hard way. And it took
two or three years for me to learn the hard way too. It wasn't just one time. Yeah. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Glutton for punishment. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah. >> Justin Rexing: Number one lesson. Don't stay at the day's end in Florida. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Damn it. Okay. >> Chris Dechter: Is that. I gotta, I gotta go change my reservation. >> Jamie Rinehart: Cancel reservation. >> Larry Darling: Yeah, like seriously, that's coaches.
>> Rachel Bradshaw: We might be at the days in. >> Justin Rexing: I slept in my car instead of sleeping in. Days in. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's the whole sticky thing we're talking about. >> Justin Rexing: Uh, exactly what's happening to your car. Yeah. >> Rachel Bradshaw: You're telling me there is a reason why that hotel is a hundred miles, a hundred dollars per night, cheaper than any other. Cheaper for a reason within walking distance of the community.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: That's why Justin's a little concerned about how many pairs of underwear he has. It's all together here. >> Chris Dechter: This is a thing. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Mhm. >> Justin Rexing: And I will never stay there again. And I was there for one night and, uh, slept in my car the next night. And then changed hotels. I don't care. And bring it. Let's go.
>> Chris Dechter: All right, well, with that travel tip, we're going to close out here and uh, um, see all of you at. At Infocom, which when you're listening to this is in like eight days. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, yeah. Whenever this is. >> Chris Dechter: When does this come? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Everybody who's here live, just ignore it. Listen to it again when it comes out.
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. So if you're live, it's in like a month. If you're, uh, listening to this on the recorded podcast, it happens in a week. So we'll see you next week. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Come see us. We'll have stuff. >> Chris Dechter: Peace out. Yeah. Push the button. Pushed it. Thanks for putting up with yet another episode of AV Structure Super Friends on topic. You can contact us with questions, topic ideas or General complaints@avsuperfriends.com.
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