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>> Justin Rexing: That was a lot of energy, Chris. >> Chris Dechter: You want to dial it back? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Do it again. You should die with less energy, a. >> Chris Dechter: Little bit more boring for June 2020, something every week. All right, well, anyway, so let's say hello to our panel of AV super friends. Let's find this button.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Push it. Go. >> Chris Dechter: I'm joined by a chief intranet synergist from Kansas City, Jamie Reinhart. >> Jamie Rinehart: Keeping the sneaker net alive. >> Chris Dechter: I guess that would be intranet. The very intra. Your intranet. Also joined by a lead functionality producer from Corvallis, Oregon, Mark Koloweszinski. >> Marc Cholewczynski: You guys can do it, but just don't do it like that.
>> Chris Dechter: It's not very functional, but it's leading. All right. Also joined by a chief impact engineer from Greensboro, North Carolina, Larry darling. >> Larry Darling: Yep. >> Jamie Rinehart: Making an impact brings the big hammer. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yes. >> Chris Dechter: It just has a big hammer. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Drags it around. >> Justin Rexing: Larry's got a big hammer. We're gonna say that.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: And finally, our junior vice president for regional integration from Bowling Green, Kentucky, Justin rexing. >> Justin Rexing: I heard junior and regional and vice. Vice is a little up there, but junior, regional, it's like I'm hanging on by a thread over here. >> Chris Dechter: It's this slow. It's the slow ramp to that, top position. Justin. >> Justin Rexing: About to get a pink slip.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Justin. It's a long journey to the middle. >> Justin Rexing: It's Friday. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Pace yourself. >> Chris Dechter: So, on today's show, we're going to discuss our plans for Infocom and what we're looking forward to there. But first, and you've waited like a week and a half for this. >> Justin Rexing: I have. >> Chris Dechter: Okay. >> Justin Rexing: Well, I've waited.
>> Chris Dechter: It's time for the news misfire. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: All right, so we've got a special, let's, let's special audio presentation here. What's. What's happening with the Infocom news? What. What's big on the infocom news? And we pulled this story. >> Justin Rexing: Drumroll. >> Jamie Rinehart: I've heard that one. >> Chris Dechter: And, and, yes, we're kind of in a, lull here. A, calm before the storm, the eye of the
hurricane. No, that would imply part of something. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Happened, and that means happening right now. >> Chris Dechter: So there is no news because it's almost infocom. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There will be. We're waiting. Hot off the presses. >> Chris Dechter: So, anyway, we're gonna talk about our plans for Infocom. What stuff? Since there's no news about it, what stuff are we
looking forward to? Oh, you know what crap. I forgot to start the Timmy timer. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Start the timmer here. >> Chris Dechter: You should have reminded me several minutes ago. Cause we're supposed to start this beating show, not the end of the show, so. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Well, I figured, you know, ruined it, whatever. >> Chris Dechter: I'm gonna take three minutes off. >> Marc Cholewczynski: They're gonna get extra credit here.
>> Justin Rexing: So another four hour, three minutes of added time. >> Chris Dechter: Another four hour, 30 minutes show. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's exactly right, but no extra charge. >> Chris Dechter: So, infocom, what are we looking forward to? What are we looking for? What. What's the plans? We have some stuff. We're gonna talk about what we're gonna be doing while we're there. But, what do you see, guys seeing trends,
stuff, things. It's all VR these days. I'm pretty sure. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Pretty much the whole thing is just in goggles now, right? >> Larry Darling: Yeah. Where I just go to walk around. >> Marc Cholewczynski: On treadmills from the airport. >> Chris Dechter: At the airport. >> Justin Rexing: We don't need to go, then. >> Larry Darling: Hey, hey, you stop that. >> Justin Rexing: That's all VR.
>> Jamie Rinehart: I don't think that's it this year. >> Chris Dechter: oh. >> Larry Darling: It's all AI. Is that what it is? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Actually, yes, it probably is. >> Jamie Rinehart: It probably will every AI everywhere. And we'll all roll out. >> Chris Dechter: These noodles were made with AI. >> Marc Cholewczynski: No, it'll all be AI. >> Jamie Rinehart: All of.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: It's probably not the right word. There will definitely be a lot of manufacturers boasting and claiming. Look, with now added AI seasonings, jam that into. >> Justin Rexing: I'm sure they will for a new license fee. >> Larry Darling: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: This projector screen infused with AI. >> Justin Rexing: Let's project a mount. >> Chris Dechter: I want an AI enabled projector mount. That's.
That is now the top thing on my list. To find that infocom, I think you. >> Jamie Rinehart: Can probably get out a few stickers and just walk around and start putting AI enabled. >> Chris Dechter: Now with AI products, that's a good idea. >> Jamie Rinehart: There's probably sales people and people that work for the company that would had no idea. They're like, yeah, now the AI tv. >> Justin Rexing: Mounts now because
they're gonna know. Well they probably don't listen to the. >> Larry Darling: Show so they don't care. >> Justin Rexing: We can still do it. >> Chris Dechter: This was, this was still published before the show. So they'll have a good week's heads up to look for AI stickers on all their stuff. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Somebody say oh we designed it with AI. Of course it's AI enabled, why not? >> Chris Dechter: Might as well. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Exactly.
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah I've got AI on my computer and I use the same computer to build this in CAD. So yeah technically works. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's it. Print it, get it out there. >> Chris Dechter: So aside from AI enabled projector mounts and equipment racks, what else are we expecting to see out there trends wise or what are we looking for from our own perspective of things that we're interested in?
>> Larry Darling: Well I'm converting my entire campus to 21 by nine so I really need to find some monitors that I can put on walls. >> Jamie Rinehart: Well four years ago they would have been the show for you. >> Larry Darling: It would have, but all the content was in 16 by nine then. So I'm hoping now they're actually using it to the full capabilities. >> Justin Rexing: You know I'm gonna try to find Microsoft. >> Chris Dechter: You know that's a good point.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: Speaking of AI, 21 by nine. Crud. >> Jamie Rinehart: You want them like the company. Not just the fact we're gonna have their certified splashed on every product known to me. >> Justin Rexing: We're just gonna try to find them because remember last year we couldn't find them and they're in secret rooms and doing secret stuff. >> Larry Darling: We just weren't secrecy.
>> Chris Dechter: Yeah. Who's got the floor plan open? I don't think Microsoft has a booth. >> Justin Rexing: This year too big to say they didn't last year. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's the thing. There's so large that you can't find them. >> Chris Dechter: Oh you're saying we might take a. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Step back, zoom out there. They're much larger. They're everything.
>> Larry Darling: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: So as we're flying in, you look down and look for Microsoft. >> Jamie Rinehart: Right now is Microsoft certified, you can see that from the airplane. Good to go. >> Chris Dechter: Waiting for that actually teams room. >> Marc Cholewczynski: On that bad boy. >> Chris Dechter: Can you see it from an airplane or can it be certified? >> Larry Darling: I play in at night so maybe.
>> Chris Dechter: You will probably see it from way out. >> Jamie Rinehart: Larry is so hung up on 21 by nine. Because if it's not a 360 sphere, I don't want it. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Which is every classroom of the future. >> Larry Darling: Classes in the round. But you're inside instead of you're inside the classroom. >> Justin Rexing: Imagine trying to make $25,000 just to get into one class. Because that. Isn't that how much it cost to.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Normal cost of college now, I don't know. >> Jamie Rinehart: Two kids in college. That just seems like the Tuesday $25,000 credit hour. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah, that's a discount, Justin. >> Jamie Rinehart: It feels like it. I, think we'll see networked, stuff. like network. >> Chris Dechter: That's good. Yeah. You are way out on a limb there. >> Jamie Rinehart: I'll be curious to see if we start.
>> Justin Rexing: That's the boldest prediction of the year, Jamie. If I was a betting man, that's probably, like, got odds of 20,000 to one. >> Jamie Rinehart: I've been doing some market research, and I dug a deep dive into nab and I. >> Justin Rexing: Wait, Jamie's interrupting himself. >> Chris Dechter: Sorry. >> Jamie Rinehart: There it is. >> Justin Rexing: Did y'all hear that? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, it's fun.
>> Chris Dechter: Jamie was saying his predictions are always correct. All right, Jamie, now, what sort of networked stuff? >> Jamie Rinehart: I think we're going to start, we'll see more December 21 ten. We'll see more of the, as you know, protocols. I think we'll start seeing. Hopefully we'll start seeing the collapse of all of the many flavors of AV over ip, and we'll see.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: I was foolish enough to try to predict that last year, and we're going to see more standards, if anything. >> Justin Rexing: Where's this positivity, Jamie, coming from? >> Jamie Rinehart: Like, who are you? >> Justin Rexing: Well, where'd you been? >> Jamie Rinehart: Two things won't be there, so don't care. >> Justin Rexing: Okay, well, he's just going out on the limb.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: He doesn't care. Just go for it. Right? >> Chris Dechter: Yeah, but you don't care when you. >> Jamie Rinehart: Are like, I can't prove myself wrong because I wasn't there. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I, you know, I want to build, off of your sentiment here, Jamie. Like, I agree that there. Yes, there will be some network stuff there. At least one device will need network, I guarantee it. Okay, but. But other than the
transport thing, three, I'm looking. I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing about. Seeing about. Yeah, the. This smarter endpoints at large. Right. I like what we've seen in some of, like, the beamforming stuff, where we start to see some of that, that capability built into kind of our transducers. Now, I think that's what we're going to see. A wave of more. I'm not going to use the dumb term, just smart enabled stuff, but the smart enabled stuff. >> Chris Dechter: AI enabled.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: AI enabled. Smart enabled. Like endpoints. I like that philosophy where you want. >> Chris Dechter: A beamforming mic in a endpoint. What? >> Jamie Rinehart: No, he's freaking zoom in his projector. >> Chris Dechter: Projector. Holy crap. Who's. All right, that's a prediction zoom enabled projector. That's coming. >> Justin Rexing: Level eight, f five. >> Marc Cholewczynski: the example I'm going to give here is of
the, like the TCC two s, the Sennheiser type, things like. I like that as a smart ish microphone. It is a network, connected transducer out there. I can drive and steer. I think we'll see more things like that. Yes, it's network. Let's take network and marry it with this thing. But I also want to say, I think we're kind of getting to this weird plateau of sorts where we have like input output devices flavoring in between, and everything is just in there. And all the secret sauce
is the software. You're going to hear a lot about software, I think this year I think it's less about hardware and what their software enabled endpoints are doing. And I think that's what you're like. I'm not seeing big giant mystery boxes being unveiled and holy Christ, look at this new thing it's doing. No, it's development in the software and the different revs that it's going to give you as it's going to tie you to some service contract moving forward.
>> Justin Rexing: Wasn't that kind of our show summary as we left last year, that we saw more software and more capability? >> Marc Cholewczynski: I think you're going to get a massive tidal wave of it this year. >> Chris Dechter: Is that software gonna be AI enabled? >> Larry Darling: Will it be claimed? Or is it like two different. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It will be based on the AI that you're going to bring it with.
>> Chris Dechter: But that's an interesting point, Mark. I mean, yes, there will be hardware iterations, there will be new boxes and widgets and tchotchkes and adapters and things, but some of which will be, networked
things. but I think we will see a drive towards either they could say the same device you already have now can do this, or we are now launching a service that you can then tie these devices together and see, now you can get these added features, but it's all tied to the cloud, or whatever that may be. >> Justin Rexing: So is that a license fee? >> Chris Dechter: You better believe it, sir. That's a monthly bill, yes.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, well, it's not a license fee. As much as it's a new server that has a license. >> Larry Darling: Yes. >> Chris Dechter: Wait, they're bringing the cloud to you? >> Larry Darling: Oh, yeah. >> Marc Cholewczynski: On prem cloud. >> Larry Darling: Ooh. >> Marc Cholewczynski: On prem cloud site, but is hosted internally. >> Chris Dechter: I'd like. I'd like an off site on prem cloud hosted server, please.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Locally on this device, which is separated. >> Larry Darling: By ISP, it has to run on your power. >> Chris Dechter: But on my lan, I would just. >> Justin Rexing: Hand you over a computer, Chris, if you ask me to do that. All right, here you go. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Run it wherever you go. >> Justin Rexing: I don't know what you're asking me to do here. >> Chris Dechter: What? My offsite on prem cloud hosted land.
>> Justin Rexing: Enabled intel nook from three years ago. Have fun. >> Larry Darling: A compute. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It's unlocked. >> Chris Dechter: A computer. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, we'll see more embedded computing capacity, I'm sure. >> Larry Darling: Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: Do you think we could push for them to drop another letter from the word computer and maybe push. We'll just go to computing.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Want to get. Let's get rid of the c. Let's just put compute. Yes. >> Justin Rexing: comp. You didn't that used to be a. >> Jamie Rinehart: Company you have comp USA, known as Huey Packer. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I'm a comp. >> Chris Dechter: You know that's Compaq. >> Jamie Rinehart: Oh, yeah, those confused. My bad. >> Justin Rexing: Couple years, compact. >> Chris Dechter: One sold video games and one sold weird looking
computers. So. All right, what else are we thinking for trends out there? >> Larry Darling: I'm interested if any manufacturers will show evidence that they're listening to the customers and start pushing m non enterprise controllers for all your av over ip stuff. >> Justin Rexing: Are you trying to call out people for not listening to our show? >> Larry Darling: I'm just saying, like everybody has been saying, I
don't want to have all. Every endpoint on my network talking to one box in a closet I can't get to. I mean, we've heard that over and over again for the last two years, and yet everybody is still pushing. >> Marc Cholewczynski: You're expecting some type of enterprise wide maturity to all of a sudden overtake the industry. >> Larry Darling: Yeah, I'll take the field. Yeah. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah.
>> Jamie Rinehart: I like it, Larry. When they come back and they're like, look at this thing. And you're like, I don't even want that. Don't even bring it to me. And they're like, but that. >> Chris Dechter: But Jamie, it has two nick cards. >> Marc Cholewczynski: And it's got Android on it. It's everything. >> Larry Darling: I didn't want it last year. I didn't want it the year before that. Like, you've brought this same idea to us for how long now? Just know.
>> Justin Rexing: But it makes integration faster so you can make more money as an integrator. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Larry, what if I hosted it on a 21 by nine display? >> Larry Darling: Okay, now I'm interested. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. >> Larry Darling: And the extra real estate on this side said, I can't see. Looks cool. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Oh, no, these are tall. Sorry? >> Chris Dechter: These are tall. That's nine by 21.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Sorry, my bad. >> Justin Rexing: Nine by 21. >> Chris Dechter: It's nine by 21. And I'm just gonna have stacked 16 by nine content down on several layers of it, actually. >> Marc Cholewczynski: There's no inputs on it. You have to pay us, and we will send you the content as you need it. It's a monthly service. >> Chris Dechter: It's only. Why die? You have to use a little adapter. Good luck with that.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Toasted the cloud. >> Larry Darling: Isn't that. That your prediction that we won't be moving content? It's all coming from the cloud, so I'm doubling down. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I'm going for it. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, not for this year, though. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Not for this year. >> Chris Dechter: Larry, what was. What was the Google display that was, like, cloud only? >> Larry Darling: the jamboard.
>> Chris Dechter: Jamboard. Thank you. >> Larry Darling: Yeah, I have one on the other side of my office. While there. >> Chris Dechter: What's it doing right now? Is it still jamming? >> Marc Cholewczynski: It's. >> Larry Darling: No, it's just kind of sitting there because they shut down the service that does that. I really like those. >> Justin Rexing: No jamming anymore.
>> Jamie Rinehart: So you're saying when you buy devices that speak directly to the cloud that only out there could decide on a whim that they don't want that service anymore and make it a useless product? >> Larry Darling: It's not useless. It makes a really good, like, barrier. >> Jamie Rinehart: But it doesn't. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Just a wall. >> Larry Darling: Yeah, it doesn't even wipe utility.
It has an HDMI input on a non visa compliant bracket, so I can't actually mount it or use it anywhere. >> Chris Dechter: But the inputs on the bracket. Or you're just saying it has an. It's not easily mountable. >> Larry Darling: It's. It's. It's a prop. Proprietary mounting system. Oh, so you have to use their. >> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah. >> Larry Darling: Oh, it is. It's. >> Jamie Rinehart: Cisco's has got the same one on their smart board things. It's awful.
>> Larry Darling: Yeah, it's just. >> Jamie Rinehart: It's, like, 1600 by 400 pat bolt patterns. It's ridiculous. >> Chris Dechter: Do you think that comes from, like, a frustrated engineer who's just like, you know what? I'm gonna fix this. Watch this. >> Marc Cholewczynski: This is what you get. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah, this is what you get now, face. I think you can just be some sort of standards organization with holes.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Never gonna. Never gonna bend your standards. >> Chris Dechter: Won't hire me, will you? Oh, yeah. I'm gonna offset all three of these by, 5 mm. You figure it out. >> Jamie Rinehart: I feel like projector engineers do the same thing. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. >> Jamie Rinehart: Why do we have these spider mounts? Because all the points are.
>> Chris Dechter: And every projector you can buy the custom mount, which is the dinner plate that has holes in random locations. >> Jamie Rinehart: So why couldn't they just have a normal visa pattern on a projector? It's the same place. >> Chris Dechter: They're all Amex. All right, Mark, go ahead. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I think you also see kind of these, a lot of, a lot more of these cloud traffic slash endpoint aggregation
services. They're going to come proliferate this year. So they're going to be on the floor with nothing to show you outside. We take all of your things? >> Chris Dechter: No, but Mark, they have a demo, demo system they've built in Dallas, and we can connect to it. And you can see in Dallas, there's green lights on all of them.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah. Cool. All my stuff is point towards the cloud, so I think we'll see a lot of that moving forward in a way that like, oh, you're having problems getting your av over ip across your enterprise network. Just send it to the cloud and we'll manage it for you and you can take it out. And they're not wrong. It's just, I don't know if we are ready for that. And most people will be like, that seems very frightening.
>> Chris Dechter: Then why am I pulling cat six if I can do it over cat three? At a certain point, it's gonna get necked down to 300 kilobit anyway. >> Marc Cholewczynski: So things that look like this, like domain manager type things, things of like that nature. Right.
So. >> Chris Dechter: But, so to what you said and what Larry just described there, yes, there is this propensity for you have to have mystery widget box on your network somewhere to either aggregate room information or to control AV over ip traffic. And free advice to all manufacturers listening now or into the future, stop doing that. That alone will cause me to never buy your product.
>> Justin Rexing: Yeah. >> Marc Cholewczynski: The first thing you have to do is unbox it and put it on your enterprise network. You lost me. >> Chris Dechter: No. From an AV over IP standpoint, if the endpoints themselves cannot be managed directly, then, no, it's not happening. And from a service standpoint, if I have to open up a hole in my network for some sort of mystery Android device, not happening.
>> Larry Darling: Yeah, I want a third party control system to talk to my endpoint. >> Justin Rexing: Leave infocom with broken hearts. >> Larry Darling: I usually do. It's okay. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah, see, well, I'm not looking for that stuff anyway. >> Marc Cholewczynski: The things I'm hoping we see a lot of the stuff, so. Okay. I bet you there will be, some microphones and stuff there, too.
>> Chris Dechter: One area that I think is going to be interesting, and it's, again, it's not a huge shakeup or anything, but is the. Continue. The, continued decreasing, prices of led direct view displays. >> Marc Cholewczynski: The floor is falling out of that. >> Chris Dechter: Those are what you're able to get. Regular room size, standard, general, everyday, typical room size, projection size images
as an led wall. Now for not terribly much more for the right showcase spaces. And the point where you can start to almost dropping these things into conference rooms, if you have active quotes out. >> Justin Rexing: There, get them re quoted because they are dropping like flies. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It is falling out. It's lovely. I love it. >> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah, and it's got a quote on one. >> Justin Rexing: Re quoted it. And it was ten grand cheaper.
>> Chris Dechter: You just kept doing that every day. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Keep doing it. >> Justin Rexing: Yeah, just a new quote. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I was told you, a quote. You were gonna take another ten grand off. Is that true? >> Jamie Rinehart: Yeah. >> Justin Rexing: Is that proven? Is that a coupon? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Groupon. Sorry? >> Justin Rexing: Groupon. >> Chris Dechter: Double groupon day.
>> Jamie Rinehart: Bring a friend, make one of the AV's in a groupon. Groupon, $10. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It does nothing for. >> Jamie Rinehart: For you. >> Marc Cholewczynski: But, yeah, go ahead and get it. >> Chris Dechter: Yeah, this group runs up for 10% off your next led purchase. to your point there, Jamie, with the single skew ones, the all in ones, there's a lot of manufacturers now who are recognizing that that's. It's an a. It's an easy
sell. Oh, here's one part number. You don't have to do the whole crazy because up until about two or three years ago, and these had existed for a while, but in very limited, numbers, two years ago, every led video wall was a full custom thing to spec the processor and pick your panels and build them out. And they. No, we don't want that. I want to replace that single display over there or that single size image or whatever it is. Maybe it is 21 by nine, but it's a thing with
a thing. So sell me that 100. 3162 hundred ten, whatever it is at a known good resolution with the processing already built in. And yes, here's your two circuits for power and my single HDMI and lan cable. And that's all I need. And I'm happy because it ties directly into, and I'll say it for Mark, the support structure and the common kit of parts. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Lovely. Love it. We got it in there somehow.
>> Chris Dechter: I think we'll see a lot more of those from many different manufacturers, even the big name brands, because even, you know, your Samsung's and your Sony's and your Panasonics are going to start leaning into that market. You can already get them from NEC and absent and LG and planar, actually, good point. Planar has them. viewsonic now has several different models, so there's a lot of them out there that are just like, look,
you're. You're gonna pay 28 grand for this thing. You're gonna mount it to the wall and you're done. Great. That's. That's a huge selling point. >> Jamie Rinehart: And it just comes on a pallet. You don't have to think. I think it's just basically you're buying a put it together yourself tv. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That's what you want. It's not anything. >> Justin Rexing: M really don't want to drink. All these manufacturers offer services. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Exactly.
>> Justin Rexing: So you can just watch them think. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Twice, twice the price of the display. >> Jamie Rinehart: You can watch all the people on this call that offered up that information. It was you. >> Larry Darling: Yeah. >> Jamie Rinehart: Do it in house. As long as you call this guy.
>> Justin Rexing: I'm a big, advocate of hiring the manufacturers to install those, because while they're the rest of our teams installing everything else and it increases our labor force, so it actually works out pretty well. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Scale. Scale. >> Justin Rexing: Well, just that RFP labor video I've always talked about. >> Chris Dechter: So, video walls in general are, let's say, finicky at best.
No, no, that's the wrong term. Fiddly at best. To install led is even more so because you want that, that ultimate, like, flat surface. No, you're right. >> Justin Rexing: But it's experienced people in, while you're in the heat of something in construction and, yeah, like, you can work alongside them. It's really great. >> Marc Cholewczynski: See, I heard in the heat, and I actually went with, yeah,
it's usually typically shitty hot during the summer trying to do those installs. So, yeah, it would be much better to have somebody else suck you in. >> Justin Rexing: We have air conditioning in Kentucky. >> Chris Dechter: I don't know about Oregon. >> Marc Cholewczynski: We always end up coming in when they're testing the heat for some reason in the middle of summer. >> Chris Dechter: We got a problem with a chilled beam this week. It's off.
>> Justin Rexing: We do have some fancy things here in Kentucky, like air conditioning. >> Chris Dechter: Mark, which was the building we installed a bunch of classrooms, and just the sun coming in was hot enough that it was overheating. The, stuff in the rack. >> Marc Cholewczynski: That could be anywhere. Chris. >> Chris Dechter: It's like ten years ago. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I don't remember that. can be n two.
>> Chris Dechter: No, it was, it had no, I. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Believe we took you over to the. >> Chris Dechter: High desert at one point, strand ag. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, yeah. >> Chris Dechter: The sun coming in on the, the west side of the building was just cooking the, the gear in the, Cuz there's no air conditioning. Right? Because why would there be? No, figure it out. >> Marc Cholewczynski: It's lovely here.
>> Chris Dechter: You only need air conditioning for like three months a year. But during those three months. Yeah. >> Marc Cholewczynski: I, think actually my other note I have here that you guys can't see because it's not in the notes and my notes. >> Chris Dechter: What the hell? Put in the notes. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Security. Finally, I think, I'm not saying we're gonna see it
mature. I think people are gonna murmur and they're gonna start asking us if it's important. >> Chris Dechter: Okay. >> Marc Cholewczynski: They're gonna ask us, is it really important? And we're gonna say, yeah, where were you ten years ago? >> Chris Dechter: Is it important? Yes. Is it really important? Yeah. >> Jamie Rinehart: If we told you we'd let you set up passwords, how about you integrate.
>> Marc Cholewczynski: With things, the people that I will, I'll say this, we will be surprised by somebody asking the question, maybe that's a better way. >> Justin Rexing: So we're going to be shocked. Be like, oh, what? >> Marc Cholewczynski: It'll be some weird, like, wow, that was awfully mature of you. Strange, weird. Back row company, acquisition row. >> Jamie Rinehart: If we tied it into Azure services, would you use it?
>> Marc Cholewczynski: will I have a choice in that? No, it'll be the only thing I can use. So, hey, that, that's a little bit good. Some recon. Is it Azure ready? And does it play my tenant well? And is it certified that way? Only thing I can use. You figure it out. >> Jamie Rinehart: The more teams things we see come online, it's kind of like, So can you tie into that? Oh, not yet. Well then screw you. Get
out. Come on. >> Chris Dechter: That is a good point, Mark, that you're going to, you're going to start having, there's two kind of big ecosystems right now with teams and zoom stuff for connected services, one of which has a lot more kind of, connect ability and overhead, but has to fit within that same
licensing model, fit within the same environment. And that's going to require a lot of, because now I'm talking hardware into software that's going to require some security posturing that is not commonly deployed in a lot of these. >> Larry Darling: But theory will work better with zero trust, I think. >> Chris Dechter: Yes. >> Larry Darling: And Mark has mentioned in the past, I think that's why ultimately we're all going to be teams because, oh, my God.
>> Justin Rexing: No, that's wrong. >> Larry Darling: it is. The only way I see around the zero trust issues is if everything is. >> Justin Rexing: You just don't, you just don't do zero trust and then you don't have to do teams. >> Larry Darling: Well, I don't have that. >> Marc Cholewczynski: As if any of us on this have any say in if we're going to do that or not. >> Chris Dechter: That's all. >> Justin Rexing: it's easy.
>> Jamie Rinehart: It's easy. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Sure is. >> Justin Rexing: Just something's difficult. >> Chris Dechter: You solved it. I don't know why we didn't see that. What are we thinking here? So, all right. our clock is blinking at us. Any last, last thoughts? Where I push this button, we roll out. >> Marc Cholewczynski: it'll be fun. People enjoy it. Oh, we find things will happen.
>> Chris Dechter: So sneak peek. Look forward. So if you're listening to this now, go back and find the recording, but look forward to us in, two weeks. In two weeks, we're doing a special first Friday on the fifth Friday show where we're going to talk about only the stuff we are doing at infocom. we're recording multiple live shows. >> Justin Rexing: Fifth Friday of the third. >> Chris Dechter: You heard me. It's the first Friday on the fifth Friday. So
Friday, May 31. It's the fifth Friday. Justin, our 1st, 5th Friday. We have the first Friday. >> Larry Darling: We're doing the first Friday on the fifth Friday. >> Chris Dechter: Yes. >> Marc Cholewczynski: For the first time. >> Chris Dechter: Special episode. Talking just about to my calendar. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Yeah, just, just go where your calendar says to be. >> Chris Dechter: Special show. Talking about our plans. We're doing multiple live
recordings every day. We're gonna be in different booths talking about stuff, but we're gonna be setting up and doing full live shows on the show floor at various booths. So get in touch or follow us to find out on back up. Follow us on social media to find out where we're going to be. >> Larry Darling: I got there live recorded shows. >> Chris Dechter: They're live for people who are there live with us. >> Larry Darling: Okay. Yes. People who are there. Yes.
>> Chris Dechter: so if you want to come hang out during a live, there's a bunch of us together, all recording. That's where we'll be at. Multiple manufacturers and all sorts of cool stuff every day at Infocom. So also on Friday, we are leading a secret show floor tour. So follow us on, social media to find out where that's going to start. And that is the best show floor tour because it's all the stuff we have already gone around the show floor
and vetted and identified as. This is the stuff you need to see. >> Justin Rexing: We plan it the night before. >> Chris Dechter: No pay for that. >> Marc Cholewczynski: Make sure you send us an email. >> Chris Dechter: There's no pay for play. There's no. There a sponsor or whatever. We have to meet at this booth at this time and someone's going to shepherd us around. No, we're going to go find stuff. We're going to pick the best and we're going to show you
the best stuff. So. >> Justin Rexing: And these manufacturers are not, are not paying us to do this. We're just finding it. >> Chris Dechter: Sending them a bill later. But that's how it works. >> Justin Rexing: Well, we can, I guess. I don't know if they'll pay it. They haven't yet. >> Chris Dechter: Who the hell. What? >> Marc Cholewczynski: Keep trying. Yeah. >> Chris Dechter: All right. Well, that's it. So that's infocom stuff.
We'll be back in two more weeks with, lots more information on that. Thanks, y'all. Thanks for putting up with yet another episode of AV Super Friends on topic. You can contact us with questions, topic ideas, or general complaints at av superfriends.com. nice work, everyone. Sharp broadcast. Really good. Everyone on the floor as well. Really
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