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Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Attack of the Final Girls. I'm Teresa. And I'm Juliette. And we're here once again on our journey every two weeks to bring to you a... time i was trying to come up with something clever to say a horror movie from the ages i was like the ages yeah that's not our show no we do whatever we feel like exactly today is no different because we decided to do i madman which i thought i hadn't seen this one
And then as we were watching it, I was like, oh, no, I've definitely seen this one. But it's worth a rewatch. It's very fun. It's so fun. It's very fun. My partner had been saying for a couple of years now like you guys need to do this one. Because it's about like books and like fiction. And he knows we're both book girlies. Yeah. So we're finally getting around to it. And it is fun. It is so much fun. It's got everything. It's got scary books.
It's got noir. It's got claymation. Yeah. It's got a dude without a nose. It's got everything. Got 80s Nightmare on Elm Street-esque music cues and nods. Yes. It's got a helpful... Golden Retriever boyfriend. Oh, he's such a golden retriever. Yeah. Which is totally in right now. Yeah, that's true. He's a detective. If you're an X-Files girly, this will give you warm fuzzies because it feels very like X-Files-esque.
yeah the music too like yeah it will fully feel like a longer episode of the x-files yeah which is kind of par for the course we've been doing a lot of uh stuff lately that would have been or should have been like a whole ass x-files episode like true i forget which one it was that we did recently that was supposed to i think it's letterhouse rock no that that doesn't make sense well i mean we did final destination fairly
That was supposed to be an Xbox episode. That's what I was thinking of. All right. So that makes sense. It's got big old bookstores filled with dusty tomes. Yes. We love a dusty tome. It's got pre-modern libraries with microfiche. Microfiche. I miss microfiche. I'm sure that there are like university libraries and old special collections that still have them, but.
There's nothing like watching somebody flip through microfiche. Oh, yeah. I've never had the pleasure of doing it myself. I have, actually. Yeah. Jealous. I'm trying to think. how old i would have been but i'm old enough that they taught us like in school how to still research with microfiche shit because i am old enough to be of the age where at certain point
Actually, at most points in my education, the internet existed and was a thing, but they were like, that is not a proper research tool. You do not research on the internet. You go to a library and you get books or you look at microfiche. The internet is for funsies, not for serious stuff. For funsies. It's for funsies and crime. Yeah, definitely crime. Juliet's fooling. She's timeless. She's angels. For most of my. For most of my existence.
The internet did not exist. Also, the written word did not exist. I am from an age before the page. No, this one is great. So I was thinking that this is the movie that was about comic books, because there is another horror movie that's semi similar to this sort of.
idea that's about comic books, but it's kind of giving, what is the one with Sam Neill where he's Sutter Cain is that in the mouth of madness speaking of the internet let us consult yeah remember they were like the internet is not a proper way to research and now like every you know
like academic journal is now online for you to access at the drop of a hat you don't have to get a printed copy of it oh yeah also your math teacher was like you're not gonna have a calculator in your hand at all times
guess what I got the most powerful computer probably ever to exist not really the most powerful but one of the most powerful computers ever to exist that sits on my phone that I play flash games on and look on instagram so yeah suck it math teacher i'm using the power of supercomputing to send memes to send memes and emojis to emoji react to the memes to be clear that's what it was made for yes
Thank you, pioneers of computing. It was called In the Mouth of Madness. That is a 1994 Sam Neill movie. Okay. So it's kind of giving that, except in the case of Sam Neill, it's that his book... start coming to life. His books start coming to life. In the case of I, Madman, it's our heroine who is reading a book and it starts to come a life around her. So the main character is Virginia, played by Jenny Wright. You may know Jenny Wright from such fine films as Near Dark.
And the 1989 Twister movie with Harry Dean Stanton, Dylan McDermott, and Crispin Glover. Oh. So I don't know. I've never seen that one. I just saw her credited in Twister and I was like, she wasn't in Twister. She was. It's just not that Twister. And then Clayton Roehner plays Richard, her boyfriend, also a detective. Dr. Kessler slash Malcolm Brand is played by Randall William Cook. Mona is played by Stephanie Hodge, who's Virginia's co-worker, partner in crime.
And that's pretty much it. There's some other characters, but our main cast is basically Virginia Richard and Brand. But the story, the movie is about the bookshop clerk and wannabe actress Virginia. who is starting to see the disfigured killer from one of the pulp novels that she's reading come to life and start to affect the world around her. And she tries to explain it to her boyfriend, who's like, that is garbage, and you should not read it.
No wonder you are having strange feelings. I say that aggressively, but he's less aggressive and more like, Maybe you're getting spooked out by this because you live alone. You're reading these books. And you should live with me. Because I love you, even though we've been together for six weeks, which she says. And he's like, come meet my family for Christmas. And she's like, it's been six weeks. And Mona's like, girl, you in danger. And Virginia's like, I don't know about him. But.
Through the course of the movie, she apparently does know about him because she keeps calling him. He is a golden retriever, to be clear. He truly is. Like, he doesn't give off bad vibes. He's not like, you're a crazy person for reading these books. He's like... Maybe you're having bad dreams because of this. And also the thing that she's describing in a regular time world.
does sound pretty fantastic. Yeah, absolutely. It makes sense that rational, reasonable cop man says, no, no, I don't think so. Yeah. It's funny because his reaction to this... reminds me that there are people in the world who don't consume the same kind of media as me. Fair. Because like, you know, at first I was like, oh. This is the 80s, you know, and the, shall we say, literature in the year of our Lord 2025 is far more extreme. But then I was like...
Actually, a normal ass person probably would still be disturbed by the things she's reading. I am just desensitized to all of that. That is fair. And this is the 80s. And the book that she's reading is like from the 50s. Yeah. So it's a pulp novel that probably would have been very shocking in the 50s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's the one that she reads first. I can't remember.
The story is basically that there's a like a hotel and somebody who's staying in the hotel hears growls from next door. And then there's a like a half jackal, half human experiment that exists in this hotel room and it gets loose. Then she finishes that book and then goes back to or starts to read I'm Madman by also by Brand, a different book by the same author. And the book is about a serial killer. Who is in love with this actress and really wants to be with this actress.
But she says that he's really ugly. So he decides that he's going to cut all of the shit off of his head and then find pieces. So of course, she gets reasonably pretty scared by this. And she is a single woman living alone in L.A., very dangerous time in L.A., you know, in the 80s. She's like living and working near a seedier part of town.
You know, she lives all alone and she's like reading these books and like biting her nails. And then weird stuff starts to happen. She starts to see the man and interact with him. And she's like, oh, God, what's happening? Why do I keep seeing this guy? And then, you know, chaos ensues. Yeah. I like that this movie doesn't try to play with our expectations as an audience. Like, there was never a moment where I was like, oh.
Virginia is losing her mind. I was like, nope, this is 100% happening. And while the other characters, Richard in particular, Don't believe her until the very end of the movie. We are never left in any doubt. Like, no, this is definitely 100% happening to Virginia. And it's not about... Us as the audience wondering whether she's lost her mind or gone too far afield into fiction.
The struggle is more about us witnessing her not being believed when she's in mortal peril. I dig that too, where we don't have to worry about like asking that question. There's a scene where she's waiting to get on the bus. And so she reads a couple pages in this book when she gets ready to get on the bus.
She sees the man behind her and she's like, oh, God. And of course, like the movie starts out with her sort of inserting herself into the story where we don't know yet that it's not the story. we're kind of called in a couple minutes into the film. And then we're like, oh, she's just reading. And she's like self inserting her own person into this novel. And she does that a couple of times throughout the book.
Especially once we get to the point where she's actually reading I, Madman, she kind of envisions herself as that actress because she is an actress or she wants to be an actress. It's cool to see that. And I will say, like, I want to talk a lot more about the cinematography later, but the transitions from her like being in the real world, quote unquote, into being into the fantasy realm is very cool. Yeah.
Yeah, I agree. Very noir-like too. Yeah, and also definitely like taking a deliberate nod from Nightmare on Elm Street where you... in certain scenes, kind of seamlessly pass from the real world into, in this case, the world of the novel, in Nightmare's case, the dream world, where you and the character... sort of have this seamless moment of transition where it's not like a deliberate like
I am now reading a book. This is me reading the story. But you're just eased right into it to the point where you and the character involved are kind of like, oh, wait, huh? Something is amiss, you know? after it has already been a miss for a while. So the director of this is Tybor Tkach, and he's a Hungarian director. I was looking up his filmography, obviously, while we were watching the movie. So this movie came out in 89. He also directed The Gate and The Gate 2.
And then later, such illustrious films as Mansquito, and now a lot of Hallmark movies. But he also directed episodes of Red Shoes Diary. And he did Outer Limits as well. Oh, that makes sense. He also did... the pilot movie, and then some episodes of Sabrina the Teenage Witch, the Melissa Joan Hart. He, before this, had not done... But, you know, The Gate is pretty famous and then did this movie and then he kind of...
He didn't stop directing big movies, but he sort of like turned to stuff like Mansquito, which is sort of like schlocky. And lately he's been doing a lot of Hallmark stuff. So like the Hallmark-y looking movies, Christmas movies, that kind of thing. So not sure where his, you know, focus sort of pivoted, but it is interesting to watch this movie because.
It looks very deliberate, like the way in which it's filmed is very deliberate. And I would say the same thing about The Gate. And even to a certain extent, Mansquito, which I know we're not covering that movie, but that movie is also kind of filmed in a very deliberate way. So I am interested in what happened to Tkach that like sort of swung him away from horror and away from more dramatic filmmaking into like.
And you know what? Hallmark movies like valid. Obviously, they make shitloads of money because I was going to say it's like good, steady work from what I've heard. Yeah. I mean, you it's like a soap opera. Are you looking for groundbreaking storytelling? No. Is it a paycheck that people come and watch a kajillion of them? I mean, I looked up the other day, Young and the Restless has 13,000 episodes. Over 13,000 episodes.
it's been on for like a bajillion years oh yeah so there's something out there for everyone it's true it's so if we keep talking about We have. We've talked a lot about soap operas in the past few days. This is me manifesting. To NBC to put passions on Peacock. Are we in our soap opera era? And what I mean by deliberate, this movie being very deliberately filmed, like...
It looks like a noir film. The lighting is great. The color work is amazing. Smoky streets, women running through hallways, crooked shots, point of view. It looks like a very cool... detective like pulp novel. I like it a lot. I enjoyed many of the sequences of The killer brand, like, he actually floats down the hallway towards the redhead. And there are also some scenes that include a voiceover of him like actually...
narrating his own actions or narrating his own thoughts. Which I love. Yeah. So it's like fully a noir, you know, and even when we get to the bits that are not in the pulp novel. it's still noir. And that's really cool to me. This is definitely part of that late 80s, early 90s. trend you know that sort of like 30-year cyclical retro revival thing
where we saw a lot of media in this time nodding back to noir and like detective novels and pulp culture. I mean, this was the year before Dick Tracy, Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy came out. When we think about like Batman, the animated series and its distinctive art deco look like this, definitely watching this again, like brought me not just to like. noir and mid-century modern gorgeous furniture by the way um but it also like very firmly planted me in like 1989 1990 i was like oh yeah like
This style, the sort of looking back in media was all over the place at that time. And I really dig that to the sort of pulp detective culture, like noir culture filtered through that 80s lens. is a real, like, fun moment in media. And like to see the juxtaposition of the pulp novel that she's reading versus the pulp novel that her life ends up being is really cool because Virginia has this sort of like...
This look that could have existed in the 50s or, you know, in 1989, she's wearing like crop jackets and like... stocking with socks and heels you know it's very timeless like she's got her her like nerdy glasses on and she works in a bookstore and she wants to be an actress she's like literally living in her own pulp novel. So I thought that was cool. Yeah, there were also like, and this is just probably because I love this movie so much and am obsessed with it.
She's wearing like almost like the Ed Wood pink angora sweater at one point. And there's also a scene. And I don't know if it's one of those just like parallel development, like parallel thought things, or if like maybe because this feels like a movie Tim Burton would like. If maybe Tim Burton took – there's the hallway scene where she's going to see the literary agent. And there's a parallel scene in Ed Wood where he's going to try to sell one of the movies. And I was like –
huh, like this is shot very, very similarly. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. It might just be that I like that movie a lot. You can tell that this movie inspired a lot of other movies. Yeah. Critically, it did not do very well. Yeah, and I think that's very interesting. Let's talk a little more about that because one of the critiques I saw over and over again... was about the gore and was that, oh, it's like overly gory or it's like very schlockly gory. And I'm like,
No. I didn't think that. Like, have you seen other movies from this era? This was, this was quite well done and appropriate, in my opinion, at least. Yeah, that was actually one of the things I wrote down as being awesome is that the effects are like really great. And often, just like in a pulp novel, covered and disguised for large swaths of the movie until it's not anymore. I didn't think it was like really over the top.
even a little bit no not at all there's a part at the beginning so brand starts out with wearing a beret which i also wrote down that i thought was great oh yeah he wears like a black beret with like a scarf over his face because he has over the course of time, cut his nose and lips and ears off.
And he's also shaved his head or taken his hair. I don't know. I guess it's just shaved his head. Very Phantom of the Opera-esque. Yes, very much so. You know, like it really does give Phantom of the Opera. He covers his face with the scarf most of the time and his ears. And then he covers his head with a beret. And then he shows. In a scene where Virginia has inserted herself into the novel, he sort of like takes the mask off like, don't you like it? I've become a blank slate.
And he's missing all of these things. But it's for like a split second. It truly is on purpose. Like the camera zooms in and he takes off his scarf and then it's there for a second. And then you're, you know, you're out of it. And it's because Virginia is so disturbed by this revelation that she has to shut the book and go to bed because she's like, oh, this is too much. Too much. Too much, man. I thought that it was like very well done. Like they're showing you.
But not so much that you're like desensitized to it. Yeah, absolutely. And then when we see him later. It's in bits and pieces because he's covering, you know, he's taking the red hair from the woman and put it on his head. No, I guess the time when she goes to sleep is when he scalps the redhead. But she still has to stop. Like she's stopping herself because she's like, oh, this is going too far.
Then when we see him with the nose, he's gotten the nose and then later the lips and the ears. Maybe if you were lived in 1989 and you were like, I am a Christian and I have never seen a horror movie before. Yeah. I mean, maybe if you. If you were viewing this movie more as like...
some kind of throwback-y detective story and didn't expect it to be like a full-on horror film. Or you were going in expecting a straight detective story and not having like supernatural and horror elements. Maybe that would be shocking, but like... I mean, this is 89, so there's certainly far gorier, you know, at all levels in horror. Like, did you think that this was a respectable... you know, film or something like.
I mean, I'm looking at the poster, too, and I don't think that the poster is giving, you know, anything that it's not. It says the literally the killer is in the background of Virginia reading. the book called i madman and it says spend the night with a madman theirs is not a storybook romance That's the tagline. So I didn't think that it would. I don't know. Perhaps the trailer was misleading. Maybe. Maybe. I did not watch it, but.
In either case, I thought that it was really good. I didn't think it was like schlocky or too gory in any sense. And keep in mind. nightmare on elm street has already been out friday many friday the 13th have already been out halloween like chainsaw yeah texas chainsaw like that's weird
I don't know. I don't understand that criticism myself because I thought it was tasteful. Maybe it was a marketing versus delivery kind of a situation. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'm just getting ready to watch Jennifer's Body again. Yeah. constantly reminded of of yeah Jennifer's body having its whole legacy messed up because of John Tucker must die yeah I feel like I'm gonna write a story about this I mean an article about this Do it. John Tucker must die, must die. Yes, correct.
One of the things that I enjoyed about this is the mix of supernatural and real life. Because at first we're sort of led to believe that brand is like... that just specifically based off in the bus scene where she like sees him and then she turns around and he's not there that may be
at first she is seeing you know like she's like oh I'm you know I've been putting myself in this book now I'm putting this character into my own life not in like a I've gone too far away but like You know, I just got done reading this page and now I'm seeing this guy. But the mix between the supernatural and real life I really, really enjoyed. Same. It's not so much that we're like, oh, it's totally a fantasy world. It's like, no, this seems realistic because of.
The fact that everybody's like, no, you definitely are not seeing a strange man. And then later we come to find out when she goes to see the bookseller or the book publisher that the dude who is writing these like. did go off the deep end. Yeah. Well, and you're even sort of led to wonder at certain points Like, if on the one hand, she's reading the book, and she's having, you know, her imaginations going wild. And on the other hand,
The author is just a straight up normal serial killer. Normal serial killer. But you know that he is just somebody who wrote books. and then has been a recluse and is now out killing people because he's, you know, gone too far into the stories. But it's that, but there's also this supernatural element to it as well. Which we finally get confirmed.
Because Brand does exist in real life and did like, you know, get too close to his novels and then start to do the things that happen in his novels. But the publisher mentions while she's there, like. He started kind of going weird when he started seeing the creature, the jackal creature from his other novel. And we were all like, something's going on. And then we haven't seen him for 30 years or whatever it is.
Later, you know, we're like, oh, this is a real person. He is actually defacing himself. And then at the very end, you actually do see the jackal thing. So there is an element of supernatural there. Also, he's not killable. Yeah, he just bursts into pages. No, I thought the mix was really good, though. Like, what is real? What isn't? What is supernatural?
You know, and then having that kind of confirmed at the end, I thought was like a good storytelling twist. Yeah. I also like that they didn't go too far with Virginia being like the archetypal hysterical woman. Like she was definitely. the sort of Cassandra-esque woman who is not being fully believed about what's happening and what she's experiencing. But they never did the, like, straight up hysterical thing. And having Richard be a little more golden retriever-esque, like...
I don't want to say he didn't believe her at any point. He was just more like concerned for her, but wasn't like... Now, some of the other cops, yeah, they did not believe her and thought that she was... you know, in a delusional state. But Richard was more just like, okay, I understand that you're upset about something. Let's try to figure it out. Not that I don't believe you, but just like, hey, let me help. Yeah. And that was nice.
So kind of expanding on that idea of her not being a hysterical, you know, the hysterical woman. I also like... that she is not a tough final girl yeah I hate even saying like she's not tough because that's not necessarily even true but I think we got force fed for a little while that that the idea is that a final girl has to be like tough like i'm thinking ripley
Right. Yeah. I think final girl must be a badass. Right. Like they have to be a badass. Like not, you know, not my kid, you bitch type thing. That's that's like what has to happen. And in this case, Virginia is, she's not like a badass. In that regard, she's not an Ellen Ripley type. She's like scared by the book that she's reading. Yeah. She, you know, is kind of quiet and lives alone and sort of keeps to herself. She's not like a popular girl or, you know.
very outgoing or anything like that. She's very much an introvert. And she likes her boyfriend a lot. She likes to have some tea and read some books before she goes to bed. And she lives kind of a simple life. And then when it comes crunch time, like she's scared and she's very much like not down and not feeling like. super duper brave, but she puts herself in jeopardy to help the police and then to try and save her friend, which she's too late to do. to try and stop this madman.
I think that that's kind of cool. It's sort of a more sensitive portrayal of a badass. Yeah, absolutely. So she is a badass in that she puts herself in harm's way in order to try and stop this guy, but not so much that she's like, I am a badass. She's like... Okay, I'm going to go back home and have some tea now. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, she's not. You're right. She's not Ellen Ripley. She's not Sidney Prescott. She's just like.
Oh, like, well, I guess I've been put in this situation. I'll do what I need to do. And he killed my friend, the piano player across the way, who was like my... You know, my one little spot in the darkness of, you know, shitty L.A. that I live in. And then he killed them. And now I'm like firmly ensconced in this story and I have to figure it out.
So I did like that. I like that she's sort of a gentler. And I guess you could also say it's sort of reductive. Like she's not. I don't know. I liked it. I mean, yeah, I think that. It could be reductive if we didn't have all of these other examples of the strong, badass final girl. I think that the reductive action comes in. When we say that all femme characters, you know, or all final girl characters.
have to be one way, you know, that we can't have this sort of final girl archetype and she can't manifest in different ways. I think that's the reductive action. virginia's character that's fair yeah Because I thought she was pretty cool. You know, it's kind of cool and empowering to see like someone who is not former military or like, you know, like somebody who has to stab. Virginia is put in a situation where...
She thinks she's going to have to shoot somebody, but instead of having to like do the brutal physical violence. She ends up reading a book and that is like the final nail in the coffin for the bad guy is that she reads a page from the book and that summons the creature. Which I love. Yeah.
So she doesn't have to do the actual violence. She doesn't become a tough guy. You know, she doesn't have to like take off her pretty sweater and she's wearing like, you know, guns and grenades and shit. She doesn't have to pull a Rambo. She just... like does what she knows. Well, yeah, I think that's also really important just because, you know, and we've talked about this in different ways over the years on the podcast, like, you know, there's that kind of idea.
where i think we're especially in the horror fandom you know the zombie apocalypse example always comes up or like what if what if a serial killer was after you I always argue like, nah, I would be one of the first ones to die. And people are like, no, if you were in that situation, your survival instincts, I'm like, I assure you. That I don't have very strong survival instincts. Like I'm sure like my lizard brain has something somewhere that would want to keep me on this earth. But also like.
I don't know how to shoot a gun. I'm not interested in learning that. And I think if I picked up a gun, I'd be like, ow, the recoil, you know, like. But I could read a damn book, you know? Sure, yeah. Like, that's my level of comfort with survival. So I agree. I like this portrayal of like...
We all have different skill sets. Some of us, it's reading on our couches. Remembering the passage that will allow this creature to come out of this chest. Yeah. No, I agree with you. I think that's... a pretty spot on analysis of that because You know, not all final girls can be badasses. Yeah. Because then it would be like, oh, this is so tired. You know, it can't be like revenge. Not all girls can be like the girl in revenge. Well, and not all, not all like femme characters.
have to either be cannon fodder like the victim or ellen ripley right there can be some like space in between those two things yeah Yeah, and also creative to use like the... Because the boyfriend does shoot the bad guy, but it obviously doesn't do anything. Because at this point, he is imbued with some sort of supernatural power. He does take several gunshots to the chest and doesn't die.
He gets back up and he keeps coming. But it is very creative to use like a book passage as sort of like the final, the final thing that is what causes him to fall out the window, explode into several book pages. Because you don't see that a lot. And normally it's like, I read an incantation. But in this case, it's not I read an incantation. It's I read a passage from a pulp novel from the 50s. And save the day.
It's actually really, really good. It's a lot of fun. The claymation of the jackal creature I think is hilarious. I love claymation. Like, give me a good claymation scene and... I'm thinking about watching Coneheads again soon. And the claymation scene in Coneheads is like one of my favorite things of all time. Oh, my God. I forgot that there was even a claymation scene in that movie. I haven't seen that in ages. I love that movie.
I had a ton of fun with this one. I think it is absolutely worth rewatching. It's on Tubi right now for free. So, I mean, obviously you have to watch some ads, but. Like it's 100% worth checking out if you haven't seen it. Not really a whole lot of actors in it that have been like gone on to have huge careers afterwards or anything, but it's solidly acted. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's well made. It's well acted. You know, it's not high cinema, but it's a fun movie. It's one that I would say.
Sit down and enjoy it because you don't have to think terribly hard about this one. It's very straightforward, but it's also very, very fun. The straightforwardness doesn't mean it's a lesser film. No. It's just very fun. Yeah, it's tons of fun. You don't see this one. It hasn't really gotten like a cult resurgence, I guess you could say. It's not a super popular film, but it's 100% worth watching. You know, it's a popcorn movie. On the other end of fun movies.
Just in time for Easter. Our next one is going to be a movie that I think requires a lot of emotional labor, but is fantastic nonetheless. We're going to cover Saint Maude. I feel like a lot of people missed because it was still, it came out kind of when... like not going most people were still not going to the movie theaters um and it's an a24 release so it was already looking at
especially in 2021, a more limited release, even if we hadn't had something that shut down the movie theater. So a lot of people are still getting to know this movie. I think we saw this one. This is one before... Our bigger cinemas started like letting people rent them out. I think we saw this one at Englewood at the smaller cinema. We did. Yeah. So we got to see it on the big screen. There's a lot going on in this one.
religion, death, illness, salvation. It goes in places I did not expect. And like I said, this one is not fun in the traditional sense. It is very... It's emotionally heavy, I would say, but there's so much to talk about this one, so I'm really excited that that'll be our next one. We couldn't watch Jesus Christ Superstar, so... So we're going to do this.
Unfortunately, despite my arguing, I'm just kidding, despite my assertion that Jesus Christ Superstar is in fact a horror movie, alas, it is not. Well, they are making a sequel to The Passion of the Christ and everyone's like,
Is it zombie Jesus? Fun fact about me, I've never seen The Passion of the Christ. You don't need to. Don't even worry about that. Are you sure that I should not see Jim Caviezel get... crucified and Mel Gibson's directorial stunning directorial You know, homage to Jesus Christ. I mean, I think you're good. Given the number of movies out there, I think you're good. All right. Fair. That's fair. I did watch.
I don't know if you had this happen to you, but in the early 2000s. The Jesus DVDs? Yeah. Yeah. So we had the tape, though. We got the VHS. So I did watch that Jesus VHS. I thought for a while that that was like... I thought it was The Passion of the Christ for a while, and I was like, oh, I've seen that. Then I was like, oh, wait, no. Something very different.
Oh, we used to always have people try to sell them back to us. Oh, no. At the store. You're like, dude, these are free. These are literally free. Literally everyone got these. No one wants to buy these. They all have them. Well, at least this time we're not watching. It's like a different type of Jesus. St. Maude is a different type of Jesus. It's a different Jesus is. a topic in the movie, but there is a lot more happening with St. Maude.
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