And at that time, man was just so.
Just to think back, like every that that was everybody was scared. It was always be careful, you know, everywhere y'all go go in groups, you know what I'm saying. It was like everybody was scared, and definitely the people from where we grew up, like like.
Around from where we were from. Everybody over there.
Scared because that's where they was getting the kids from. It it was crazy, man Like at that time, it was like the Boogerman he because it's literally somebody going around taking kids and they will finding them and telling who they were, following them behind buildings.
That was just our life. When you're living through something like that, it's kind of like different. It was just something we had to deal with. Watch for the Boogerman.
My name is Camera. We are in the atl Atlanta, Georgia and I'm from Atlanta, Georgia born and Brett.
And I'm Eric Cameron and I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, also West Side to be exact. Yep, he's the big brother, that's the little brother. The area we're from is while the kids most of the kids were getting missing from So the area we're from the West side of Atlanta, like, so it was almost like you gotta be real, real careful, like can stay out, you always be with somebody. I was real, real little so most times I was with
him anyway, my big brother. But man, that was that was a real trying time because we couldn't hang out, like I mean, it's a lot different now, man, times are different.
Like back then everything was about going outside.
Everything was about going outside, like I mean, now everything's about being inside playing on computers and games or whatever.
But it was just a different time.
They snatching kids, somebody somebody getting kids, so you stand a better chance or not getting snatched if it's more.
Than one, Like if you're with somebody, it was just like unthinkable, like who could who? Who could do this?
It's ten pm?
Do you know where your children are?
It's ten pm?
Do you know where your children are? I still remember that, like literally remember that.
Talking about keeping your kids safe and what other things you could do to keep them safe. And I still remember that.
That was that, you know, that was I wasn't at Channel two.
What time that was Monica Copper I think it was on Channel two, and they would say that you know where are your kids?
It's ten o'clock, do you know where your children are? That statement became a nightly statement. I was Monica Kaufman. I'm now Monica Kaufman Pierson. I anchored the five to six, the eleven, and the four o'clock news at Channel two WSTV.
It's the city's oldest television station.
People needed to know that they needed to keep an eye on their boys, in particular because boys were being literally picked up off the streets. So there was this fear that unless you reminded people to ask, where's your child? Do you know where your child is at this time? At ten o'clock? Your child should be in your house. That people needed to be reminded. There was a monster on the prial in Metro Atlanta.
It was scary. It was very scary.
Ten nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three two one, and I happy in nineteen seventy nine.
The year is nineteen seventy nine. Jimmy Carter is our president. The Vietnam War ended just four years ago, and it's been barely over a decade since the Civil Rights movement. My name is Payne Lindsay. I'm a documentary filmmaker. I was born in nineteen eighty seven, and I'm from a
small town called Kinnessaul, northwest of Atlanta. In twenty sixteen, I made a podcast called Up and Vanished, where I spent nearly two years investigating an unsolved disappearance of a high school teacher and beauty queen from South Georgia named Tara Grinstead. Tara vanished from her home in two thousand and five, and the case remained ice cold for more than a decade. But six months after I started making
the podcast, something crazy happened. The police arrested two suspects in connection with TERA's murder, and for the first time in nearly twelve years, this small town community had some answers.
Since then, I've been looking into other cold cases.
What began as just an idea became something more like an obsession. A few months ago, I was in my office and my business partner Donald mentioned the case.
I'd never heard of, the case of Atlanta's missing children.
I started doing some research on my own time, reading old articles and watching news clips, and what I found was captivating, a twisted tale that's haunted Atlanta.
For over three decades.
As far as the.
Documentary goes, I didn't really have a plan but I just started talking to people and I made sure I recorded everything. Okay, let's go back to nineteen seventy nine.
So you think about the late seventies, it's post nineteen sixties soul and stacks and all that stuff. Now you're sliding into the disco era. This is an era where cable is a new idea. Ted Turner hasn't even really done his thing with CNN, That's what we're talking about. There was no twenty four hour news network or news cycle at the beginning of this.
This is nearly forty years ago now, so needless to say, in many ways things are very different. The first thing I did was trying to soak in as much as possible about this time period.
This is Colinda Lee. I'm the vice president for Historical
Interpretation and Community Partnerships at the Atlanta History Center. So certainly what you're looking at by the late seventies early eighties is that first generation of African Americans who had actually benefited from school desegregation, for example, at both a secondary and collegiate level by then, right, So people who were segregated maybe primary schools and still had those memories, but were professionals by the early eighties, African Americans are
prospering to some degree, still definitely hard hit by the recession, but compared to the ways in which they had been disadvantaged before, prospering to some degree, largely as a byproduct of affirmative action.
Calinda described a time of fear and helplessness. All around her kids were gradually going missing one by one. To kids her age, there was this idea there was a real life boogeyman out there, in a sense that no one was really trying to protect them.
I was a child in Atlanta during that time. I was a nine year old living in Atlanta in the Fourth Ward, which was one of the areas from which children were taken, and I remember as a child the whispers and chatter among children. If you can imagine this real life boogeyman is actually out there, this is really happening. There was a child who went to summer camp with me who was one of the children who was abducted. And there wasn't a sense that anything very serious was
happening to protect us. There wasn't a sense that anything about our daily lives was really changing much except that we were very afraid, and our parents were very angry. Every single one of them was not only black, they were also poor. The neighborhoods from which they were taken
were the most vulnerable, most impoverished within the city. Many of them came from public housing projects, and so all of that definitely conspired to make folks feel like this is something that is happening to the least of us, and nobody cares. Atlanta is ashamed of this, I think continues to be ashamed of this.
It is not.
Something that people really candidly talk about in the open very much. I think that it's interesting that there's a way in which I think Atlanta remains ashamed of the racial bifurcation. That this really shows up when you talk to people about their memories of this time. There's a really distinct gap. I do a lot of oral history. There's a really distinct gap between white at Lantin's and Black at Lantins. I think that it's about a sense,
a profound sense of separate realities and separate societies. It's startling to me, as a person who again as a child, lived here, to talk to people who are my contemporaries who were living in other neighborhoods living in majority neighborhoods, who didn't have a sense of that urgency at all, who didn't have a sense of that vulnerability at all, who didn't even know that it was happening at all. I think it's impossible to dissi entangle the race and class issues.
I think if the world was designed with all blacks, we might be pressud of the one that's too short, the one that might be too tall, the one that's ball And I think the same difference if it was all whites would be the same thing. I think it's just a human illness that we have, and we as a people never learned to solve it. It's crazy. Even in Vietnam it was the same thing.
This is Russell Boltazar.
He's sixty nine years old currently living in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. As a young adult in the late seventies, Russell remembers this time period all too well.
When I left for the Marine Corps, I was seventeen years old. They had to flies out secretly in the middle of the morning and flies back in the middle of the night. Yeah, that's how we used to leave here at night. So most of the protesters wouldn't see us leaving. We were so close together as a team, and what we were fought, we were bled red. We ate together, slept together the whole nine yard. It did
make a difference. But when we flew back to the state side and landed on the tarmac, we went back all separate ways again. I was active duty in the Marine Corps at the time, stationed at Campbell's Ure in North Carolina. My father was living in Atlanta. Patrick, Diane, and Jacqueline are my three youngest brothers and sisters. They got invited there doing this to Atlanta. They decided to enroll in school there.
Even all the way in North Carolina, Russell remembers seeing and hearing the news stories about Atlanta's missing children. With his younger siblings having just moved to Atlanta, Russell fulk concerned for their safety.
So one day he called his father.
I asked him, do you think that it's wise that those kids should be there? Maybe they need to be back in Louisiana. And so he said, well, everything is going to be okay. And you know, they were gonna go ahead and put him in school and they're going to be safe. I says well, I don't have a good feeling about it, but you go ahead and hamle it.
A few months later, his father called him out of the blue.
One day.
He called me and he asked me, have you seen Patrick? What do you mean? Have I seen Patrick? He's in Atlanta and I'm in campus. You're in North Carolina and he's eleven years old. I think he was just reaching for straws, because now all of a sudden he's word, well, you know, Patrick thinks a lot of you, and it is a possibility maybe got a ticket, caught the bus and went up there to see us. Says no, Dad,
I don't think that would have happened. That's kind of odd for you to say that Patrick, young as he is, will to try to find me in North Carolina, had never been there before, to the base at all. I was trying to locate me. I just felt that that was something for eleven year old. The way we were raised, that Patrick was just I said, I got a bad feeling you're not gonna find Patrick alive. And I made him anger when I said that I have that feeling
that you're not gonna find me. A week later, the following Friday, that's when we got a phone call that they found him.
Who called you, my dad?
What do he said?
Said that they found him your brother dead. He was stabbed several times. They claimed that he got beat with a round object and strangled. And I told him, I says, well, I'm going to talk to my company commander and see if I can come out there to be with you.
And that's what I did.
Saint Anthony's church was crowded with Patrick Baldassar's family, his friends, and classmates. The shock of his disappearance ten days ago had barely sunk in when they learned Friday that his body had been found. Patrick's fellow fifth grader sat quietly, attentively, wondering why their friend had been taken from them. It was to these youngsters that Father Patrick Bishop directed his remarks.
He spoke of a good fear that teaches children to avoid danger, and he spoke of a bad fear, terror but can't be understood.
And he made a plea.
There are things in this life that are dangerous, things that we need to protect ourselves from. You can't let it change your way of believing about people.
After the mass, Father John Adamski read a poem. Written by Patrick's classmates. It ended with these words, there was.
Not a word about how you died. It is no wonder that we all cried, Patrick, we miss you and wish you knew how much your schoolmates agreed for you.
My mom's and daddy is from the little town of Broughbridge and Cecilia, Louisiana, And this one particular gravesite has my grandmother and my aunts and brothers, and the majority of the family, my mother and the past, all of us has always made a point whenever one of us past made sure we went back to that same graveyard. When I drove back to Atlanta to pick up his body, I stayed there till the wake was over, what they
called as a memorial. Basically, once they closed the coffin, I talked to arrangement with the funeral director and they flew the body here. I drove here and waited till this body showed help. I made arrangement one of the funeral directors here in a little town of Broughbridge. We did the funeral services there and buried him there. I'm
gonna tell you a little something about that. Okay, during that era, now we're still talking about the segregation, integration going on, and everybody trying to get us to merge together as black and white. Well, there in that town, being in the South, there were two churches. These two churches. One of the churches it is white. The other church it's black, same denomination of church. In between the two churches, it is a cemetery, white Saberita to the front and
black Sabit to the black. The cemetery has always been set up like that. When the hears showed up, it showed up in the front door of the white church. I'm standing at that particular church to me, church's church, and no problem. They met us outside of that church and told us that they couldn't do it. They couldn't do his services in that church. And I went over and talked to the minister about it. You will have
his funeral in that church. And this guy that was driving the hearse got so angry because it was he was a white driver. I think the rule was that you do not take blacks in that church, and they were and he was trying to hold faster. That didn't want to bring him over to the white church to get buried to do his service, and he was upset because I was demanding for it to happen that way, and he mashed on the gas, was kicking rocks, spinning
in a parking lot. If Patrick bought in the back of the hurts, I was trying, I wouldn't trying to make any problems for anybody. You told me no, why not, Well, you couldn't tell me why you're gonna do a service here? I might here raising hell for Patrick to get him to be buried. They did his service in the church. He's one of the first black kids that ever went had a funeral in that church.
It has proved to be the police department's most baffling problem. Eight children kidnapped or killed in the last year. There have been massive searches. Civic groups have tried to help out. Parents of the children have gotten together to see what they could do. Former police officers have donated their time to the investigation. But still nothing.
And I remember I still remember parents organizing to stand at the bus stop with the kids and wait for them to safely be on the bus and that kind so the anxiety that that produced. And remember this is a time when we were we were free ranged children. We were come home when the street lights came on children, so that was a very big deal.
I am so sorry that what happened to my child and what happened to these other ladies' children happen. But what I want you to do is to hang in there and try your best to see to it that it doesn't happen to yours.
The mothers of missing and murdered children sat in at city Hall to demand that a full investigation be launched. So imagine the grief not just of losing your children, but then having to demand that there be full attention to this.
We are paying people to maintain the safety of the streets of the city of Atlanta. If the safety of the city of Atlanta is not maintained, then the people that we are hiring to do that job need to be looked at carefully. If that job is not done, then we need to look towards why we are paying people not to do a job.
Part of this crowd agreed that some of the criticism of the police was accurate. Tell them, explained there was no attempt to show the city as insensitive. Just to show how long it took Atlanta and the city administration to become outraged.
That fracture I don't think was ever fully healed within the Atlanta community. There was a sense that maybe, you know, some folks felt safe or felt safe enough based on a degree of economic privilege, and again that these folks who were most marginalized already anyway, just were kind of left to fit for themselves. If you look at these profiles of the children who were victimized, many of them
were in foster care situations. Many of them had, you know, very difficult and unstable home lives, be it because of a parental failing or not because of poverty. You know, some of them went missing doing things like you know, being ten years old and out bagging groceries to try to get a little bit of change to help their families.
So you really get this really palpable in my mind, still a very painful portrait of these kids who are incredibly vulnerable, who were then taken up in this way and go missing and then found in these gruesome circumstances. If at all, as we finally got the kind of attention that parents were lobbying for for children, it only
really escalated the fear. There wasn't a real sense of reassurance because nobody was being captured, and the ways that policies were instated to deal with them, like the fact that one of the first official actions that was taken was to institute a curfew, which would in many ways and for many people, suggest that the people who are in the communities that are most victimized by this have
somehow engaged in some wrongdoing. Right, so you have to get home early or you're going to get picked up and taken to a detention center.
The curfew took effect at eleven o'clock last night and will be in effect every night for the next ninety days from eleven pm until six am.
People are afraid to let that children go out to play. People are afraid to send their children to the store. They're afraid to let the children go down to the community playgrounds and play in the afternoons and evenings.
So I think now.
We will get the support because there are number of parents that need to take more time out with their children and keep up with our children. So if parents won't do it, we some of us have to try to enforce some type of curfew so the children will be off the streets by eleven pm.
Police have been instructed to explain the conditions of the curfew before enforcing it. However, when police get the word to go ahead, they will first take the child home. If the parents are home, then they will be cited. If the parents are not home, or if the child does not give a home address, then he or she will be taken to a juvenile detention center.
I asked Eric Cameron how he felt about the curfew as a kid, Like the.
Curfew came and right in the mix, so the kids gein't killed like it was a curfew, Like we had to be in at seven o'clock, six o'clock, I'm crazy like that that came along right in the midst of it. You know, we understood that it was something going on, kids getting missing, and I can distinctly remember walking as groups and we will see calls the lights of cause and we would literally just take off, you know, just like somebody coming to get you.
We always felt like that there's not a sense of support. So people were wounded and then kind of rewounded. And then in the midst of all of this, there's a sense of from some folks, a sense that part of what having racial solidarity means, because race relations were still very fraught was that you have to support the African American mayor, you have to support the African American chief of police, and so you shouldn't be out here protesting and saying that you know, the city is not supporting
you well enough. So it's really really fraught, difficult, contentious moment. They're also, I think was a really significant habit during that time of holding back information in investigations that looks very different than what we have now. Right, So some of that is probably you know, true crime investigative stuff, like you don't want to tell all the details of how this body is found because if you find the right person kill and then only the killer knows that, right.
But so and you know, and we're in this moment where everybody wants to know every salacious detail right this moment. But there was definitely some significant holding back of information, and so that only opened the door wider for people to kind of reach into their imaginations and also for
a rumor mil to flourish. And so there were a lot of theories, right that people developed that because they were all black, because they were mostly male, this is you know, this was a KKK conspiracy, or this was
a racially motivated. These were racially motivated attacks, and that kind of thing, and a sense that as Atlanta was trying to affirm its reputation and continue to get business and tourism and all those things under the moniker of the city too busy to hate, that the people who were prospering under that just could not afford for that thing to be true, even if it were true.
In a time were societal in agration between blacks and whites was really just beginning. The missing and murdered children in Atlanta created a new tension, reopening wounds that had never fully healed. In many ways, it was dividing the city. From the beginning. There was a struggle to give these children equal news coverage and even thorough police investigations. Parents of the victims joined together pleading for answers from the city.
The number of missing children was growing, and eventually the story gained national news coverage. In the Atlanta police department found themselves in the hunt for a killer.
Fifty seven percent of the blacks responding to the survey said they think the killings are part of a larger conspiracy against blacks. The same percentage of whites feel the killings are criminal acts with no connection to racial issues. The survey polls the question did police treat blacks as fairly as they treat whites? The majority of the blacks said no. Most of the white respondents said the treatment from police's And.
There are all kind of rumors going on back there. I can remember some people in the black communit he thought it was a ku Klux klan that was grabbing these black boys.
Other people thought, you know, it's some kind of.
Weird sexual deviant who's grabbing these boys. And there was all this conjecture, but no one ever really knew who it was, what was the pattern. I can remember the mothers pleading for help. I can remember the white community coming together and putting up money to find the person who was doing this.
We were almost paralyzed.
I hate to put it that way, but the freedom of Friday night football wasn't there anymore. Going to basketball games for kids wasn't there anymore unless you had an adult with you all the time. You know, kids today have their freedoms, they go here, they do anything they want to do. But during that time period, it was a matter of knowing where your child was and keeping that child as close to you as possible, particularly if
it was a black male child. They were young black males, and they were poor, young black males.
It was almost as if it was like.
A Jack the Ripper character, picking the least served in the community and taking advantage of them by taking away their children.
Very vulnerable kids.
Who would at the drop of the hat because they are poor, you offer them something, and they trust.
That trust was.
Betrayed by someone who really wanted to kill them. Many felt that the police department wasn't doing all it could do to find who was committing these crimes, who was picking up these children and killing them and then dumping them like trash. You know, at first it was one child, then it was two, and then you kind of went, okay, we actually have a serial killer out there now.
And that's when the community really did.
They did come together in jail as a force to try to protect the children, to push the police department to do even more in trying to find who did this.
What frustrates police here most is they are convinced someone out in the community has enough information to help them crack these cases. The problem is so far, at least whoever does know isn't talking.
It's I believe that there's some kids out here that have the answers. There's a few kids who may know a little bit, but they don't know who to tell, or possibly no one will listen to them. What they think it's just a child's nonsense. There may be a kid out here that has a complete description of everything.
We want to know.
More than four hundred police officers and firefighters, beginning Monday, will knock on doors from nine in the morning until nine at night. They will canvas seven days a week until they hit every door in the city.
You don't have to have all the information.
Give us what information you think you have or that you may have. You don't have to tell nobody your name. Just tell your teacher, she'll get the information to us. Tell your parents, or if you can find no one else to talk to, you call the police department.
The police department thought the key might be a child coming forward as a witness to an abduction or at least an attempted one. This is Mickey Lloyd, former APD.
I was in the homicide unit during that time period with the Atlanta Police Department. I got the call on the first two bodies. They were on Niskey Lake Road in Atlanta, southwest Atlanta at that time. It was a dirt road with woods on both sides, and the two victims were Edward Smith and Alfred Evans. They were both young black kids. Children, but we got to call first on. It was Alfred Evans and he was off on a hill in the woods, about twenty feet off the road,
and he had been he'd been dead a while. He was mummified.
If you know what mummified is.
A term where the skin is dried and it's not decaying, but it just mummified. That's from being in the sun and the shade. And uh, while we were working that crime scene, I kept smelling something like something dead, and I got upwind of him and I still smelled it. So I sent a patrol alture up through the woods, uh Misky Lake, and he found the body of Edward Smith and it was down in a dish and it was a matter of fact, he was so decomposed he
was almost liquified. And then as it went on, we started getting more young blackmails murdered in different areas of the city. And we would meet once a month and talk about crime. You know, anything that may be in common and I think we had one of those meetings and I think we had about six kids dead by then, and I got up and made a statement that we
got a problem somebody killing young blackmails in Atlanta. Next thing I know, I'm standing tall in the Chief's office wanting to know what I'm basing that on because of some media picked up on it, so I guess I'm want to spill the.
Beans on that.
And uh, I really didn't have anything to be based on other than just common sense and working working cases. They didn't want to hear it, you know, the community, we didn't want to hear it. The police command didn't want to hear nobody. Nobody wanted to hear I didn't want to say it, and I don't know what made me say it, but I just thought we need to do something is try to connect these cases, because to me, they seem related.
The first two victims were Edward Smith and Alfred Evans. Boths went missing in July nineteen seventy nine. In September that year, fourteen year old Milton Harvey went missing, followed by nine year old Yusef Bell in October. By the end of nineteen eighty, seventeen children had gone missing in Atlanta, and by May nineteen eighty one, the number was thirty.
Edward Hope Smith, Alfred Evans, Milton Harvey, Yusef Bell, Jeffrey Mathis, Angel Lanier, Eric Middlebrooks, Christopher Richardson, Latanya Wilson, Aaron Anthony Carter, Earl Terrell, Clifford Jones, Darren Glass, Charles Stevens, Aaron Jackson, Patrick Rogers, Louby Jeter, Terry Pew, Patrick Baltazar, Curtis Walker, Joseph Bell, Timothy Hill, Eddie Duncan, Larry Rodgers, Michael McIntosh, Jimmy Ray Payne, John Porter, William Barrett, and Nathaniel Cater.
Just to be clear, these are not the only African American kids that went missing or were murder between the summers of seventy nine and eighty one.
These are only the names that made the list.
It got so big that I think it got kind of convoluted. There was just too many, too many hands in the pie. Then the FBI got involved in it. They were leading, but we were doing what we were told.
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He my name is Payne Lindsay. I'm currently doing a documentary project about the Atlanta child murders that happened in the early eighties. I'm looking for the Mike mccombis that was working for the FBI at the time on the case. If you could give me a callback, I'd love to ask you a few questions about it, if you didn't mind. My number is three one zero seven nine.
Telling you this two year story would be a little not It wouldn't be in a chronological order, I don't think. Because there was so much went.
On, I got different bullet points I want to hit with you, Okay.
I guess for starters. How big was this case compared to others in the FBI.
We had at least one volume for every victim, and that's a lot of volumes. Yea big. There's so many files involved. This is seeing the bureau. They have what they call major cases, and this was this was major case Major case number seven. It was code named AT KID A T K I d AT is abbreviation of Girlfriend Atlanta and Kid was the kids were missing at kid. Now, every case doesn't get a name, No, just the major case.
You've got one hundred different investigators. You've got GBI, you've got the FBI, You've got Atlanta City, you've got the county, you've got the Cab County to Cab City. And then you know, there was no moss grown under our feet. I can tell you that we were. We were humping, and we were staying really busy, and it was taking its toll on a lot of people too. You just, you know, you just can only pick up so many dead children off the street before it starts affecting you
a little bit. You know, these kids came from different walks of life, you know, socioeconomically. I think they were on the lower scale. It doesn't make them bad kids, you know they were. They were good kids. They were just street kids. There were night kids less than sufficiently supervised, would be my opinion. FBI got involved in this investigation. What they did was is they I signed two agents to every child that was that was on the list.
What would you say is your first lead that ever amounted to anything.
There was one kid that came in to the office one day and he goes, hey, I was approached by a black guy. I got in a car with him and something went sideways with it. I'm not really sure what happened. There was some type of scuffle. He said that the driver tried to push him down in the floorboard and he had a partial tag and he gave us a composite sketch.
And at another bonder was discovered from day but twenty third at Police Task Force headquarters.
There are twenty seven faces on the wall, twenty six murdered, one missing.
We do not know the person or persons that are responsible. Therefore, we do not have the money.
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Sketching back then wasn't what it is today. I mean, some of these sketches they come out with better than photographs. Back then, you know, you worked with what he had and it was a pretty good sketch.
What it looked like to you, remember, well, it.
Was a blackmail with pushy hair. I remember the composite sketch very well.
He knows in the daytime what he's dealing, but at night he's not really sure, so he kind of stays to himself in his apartment. He has a television set. There's no guns up there, no nothing. He's shrewd, he's methodical. You're not dealing with a guy with one hundred and sixty four IQ. He's clean, he's neat, he's above suspicion. I cannot stop him. I don't have the authority or the power.
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Described Atlanta to me.
In growing up here, man, you know what, a Atlanta is a very special special place, and you don't even realize how special it is until you get outside of here. It's really a place of peace and love to be one hundred, which you mean. You know, Martin Luther King from here. So it's it's like a gotta it got a spiritual thing with it, you know what I'm saying. It's a blessed place. I believe no matter how street you are, you got a spiritual side here
