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At Work with The Ready

Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlinwww.theready.com
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin have helped teams around the world adopt more modern ways of working and on At Work with The Ready they’re sharing the inside scoop with you, too. Whether you’re struggling with a carousel of ineffective meetings, annual strategy sessions that go nowhere, or decision-making churn that never ceases, they’ve seen it all and are here to help. In each episode, they'll break down common workplace challenges and show you the moves—both big and small—to start making real, lasting change. (Formerly “Brave New Work” with Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans)
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Episodes

AUA: How To Lead When You Don’t Have The Answers?

The higher up you go, the more everyone expects you to have the answers. Your team wants reassurance about AI. Your peers want to know what other companies are doing. Leadership wants confidence you're not sure you have. But what if the honest answer to most of it is, "I don't know?" and what if that's actually a sign you're paying closer attention than the people who seem so sure? In this Ask Us Anything, Rodney and Sam respond to a listener feeling the weight of expectations and offer a refram...

May 11, 202610 minSeason 9Ep. 19

48. Office Politics: The Fun and Frustration of Palace Intrigue

Office politics doesn't happen because people are scheming. It happens because no one wrote anything down. In the absence of clear ways of working, the preferences of the most powerful people fill the vacuum and suddenly half your attention is spent learning whose attachment format to use rather than doing the actual work. In this episode, Rodney and Sam dig into one of the most universal and underdiagnosed org patterns: the political operating system. They explore why politics can feel more fun...

May 04, 202650 minSeason 9Ep. 18

AUA: How Does HR Rewrite Job Descriptions for AI?

Every HR team is getting the same ask right now: rewrite our job descriptions to reflect AI. It sounds reasonable—until you realize you're being asked to update a document that was already a little broken for a world that's changing faster than any static artifact can keep up with. So where do you even start? And is the job description itself actually the right place to begin? In this AUA, Rodney and Sam flip the question entirely—arguing that the smarter move is to start with what AI can actual...

Apr 27, 20268 minSeason 9Ep. 17

47. The Chaos Tax is Slowing Your Org Down

Everyone talks about slaying bureaucracy and cutting organizational sludge but there's an equally pernicious force that doesn't get nearly enough airtime: the organizational debt created by too little structure. The chaos tax is real, and it's usually being paid by everyone except the person creating it. In this episode, Rodney and Sam unpack the founder-led chaos pattern: why it happens, why it feels like speed to the person at the top while feeling like paralysis to everyone else, and what min...

Apr 20, 202649 minSeason 9Ep. 16

AUA: What Keeps Us Together When AI Does The Work?

As AI handles more and more of the actual work, a genuinely hard question emerges: how do you maintain shared purpose when there's no single organization anchoring it? In this mini AUA, Rodney and Sam argue that more automation requires more intentional human connection, not less — and that AI might actually force a long-overdue shift from obsessing over outputs to talking about outcomes and purpose. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's talk!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ge...

Apr 13, 20266 minSeason 9Ep. 15

46. Embracing the Beautiful Mess: How Organizations Actually Work with John Cutler

Most leaders want to believe they're building something durable: a company that matters, a culture that sticks, a system people can rely on. But what if most organizations don't have the staying power of a great city like Venice...and instead are more like a gold rush town? What if that same company is more likely to change you than you are to change it? In this episode, Sam sits down with John Cutler, writer of The Beautiful Mess and Head of Product at Dotwork , to pull on the threads John has ...

Apr 06, 202652 minSeason 9Ep. 14

AUA: Why Won't The Rest Of The Org Copy What’s Working?

You've done the hard work. Your team cracked the code on a new process/workflow/policy/design, your ways of working are genuinely better, and now...everyone else is actively uninterested. It's infuriating, and also completely predictable. In this mini AUA, Rodney and Sam unpack why good ideas don't automatically spread in federated structures, from classic Not Invented Here syndrome to the underappreciated truth that you can't export a finished experience and skip the struggle. They make the cas...

Mar 30, 20269 minSeason 9Ep. 13

45, Part 2. Why Pay Will Never Feel Fair At Work (And It's Not The Money)

Compensation is where human psychology and organizational systems collide—and in Part 1 , Rodney and Sam named why it so often turns into a hedonic treadmill: every lever you pull to reduce dissatisfaction tends to raise expectations and create new dissatisfaction. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, start there for the “why this is so messy” foundation. In Part 2 , Rodney and Sam move from diagnosis to design: what principles should a compensation system actually be built on—and what do you ...

Mar 23, 202634 minSeason 9Ep. 12

AUA: Why Is My Small Org So Hard To Run?

Small doesn't mean simple. In fact, smaller organizations are often more complex in the ways that are hardest to manage — personalities loom larger, every conversation carries more weight, and the line between "business problem" and interpersonal drama gets uncomfortably thin. In this mini AUA, Rodney and Sam break down why smaller orgs typically need to install minimum viable structure to tame the chaos — while larger orgs are usually trying to remove it. Same toolkit, opposite motion. They als...

Mar 16, 20266 minSeason 9Ep. 11

45, Part 1. Why Pay Will Never Feel Fair At Work (And It's Not The Money)

Compensation is one of the messiest parts of any organization. Pay becomes a proxy for belonging, validation, performance, identity, and status… which means it’s almost guaranteed to feel unfair, confusing, and emotionally loaded. Layer on a capitalist “more is always better” mindset, and you get the hedonic treadmill of work: every raise increases expectations, which creates the next round of dissatisfaction. In Part 1 of this two-part series on compensation, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig in...

Mar 09, 202648 minSeason 9Ep. 10

AUA: What Should L&D Do About AI Right Now?

AI pressure is landing squarely on Learning & Development teams. Execs want “future skills”…yesterday. The tension? How do you stop churning out more courses and start building real capabilities in the age of AI? In this AUA mini episode, Rodney and Sam share the first moves they’d make if they were leading L&D right now. From getting hands-on with workflow automation tools to shifting from tool training toward systems thinking and experimentation, they outline how L&D can move from ...

Mar 02, 20267 minSeason 9Ep. 9

44. Forget ROI: The Ethical Case for Org Design

Most org design conversations get forced through a narrow funnel: prove the ROI, justify the spend, make the numbers work. But if work is something most people can’t opt out of—and where we spend a huge chunk of our attention and waking lives—then “it pays off” feels like a painfully small standard. This week, Rodney and Sam explore the ethical case for organizational design. They move beyond spreadsheets and profit metrics to ask bigger questions about leadership, power, transparency, compensat...

Feb 23, 202652 minSeason 9Ep. 8

AUA: Can You Change an Org When Leadership Doesn’t See the Problem?

When the people at the center of power feel well-served by the current system, how do you create change? This week’s listener question gets at a frustrating reality: sometimes the OS is optimized for the very people you’d need to convince. The business is growing, shareholders are happy, and the executives at the top don’t feel the friction you’re experiencing. Add geography, hierarchy, and distance from decision-makers, and it can feel impossible to generate momentum from the edges. In this min...

Feb 16, 20268 minSeason 9Ep. 7

43. Dual Transformation Is The Future...And Nobody's Prepared

Most organizations are built to do exactly what they do…and that’s the problem. When a core business starts to decay due to disruption, automation, or shifting customer demand, the instinct is to double down on efficiency, cost cutting, and short-term fixes. But that focus often crowds out the harder, riskier work of building what comes next. Nearly a decade ago, Dual Transformation offered a clear and compelling framework for this dilemma, yet nobody seems to be actually doing it. In this episo...

Feb 09, 202650 minSeason 9Ep. 6

AUA: Can Layoffs Really Reduce Bureaucracy?

While many organizations claim they’re cutting red tape, the underlying drivers often look more like cost pressure, market correction, or AI anxiety dressed up as structural reform. In this mini episode, Rodney and Sam unpack the recent wave of layoffs framed as efforts to “reduce bureaucracy”—and why that explanation deserves some skepticism. They explore when reducing org depth can be the right move, why boom-and-bust hiring cycles create hidden work, and what companies would actually do diffe...

Feb 02, 20266 minSeason 9Ep. 5

42. The Top 3 Skills Change Agents Need in 2026

Want to build skills like this to help your team succeed in 2026? ⁠Learn about our Capability Catalyst program⁠ . Enterprise change is getting harder, not easier—and in 2026, “having the right ideas” isn’t enough to move transformation. You need personal capability that lets you see what’s really happening, design with real users, and move groups through hard conversations without turning everything into theater. Good intentions and smart frameworks may have worked in the past, but what got us h...

Jan 26, 202654 min

AUA: How To Design a Startup OS From Scratch?

Starting a company with a blank slate sounds like a dream—but it’s also a trap. In this mini episode, Rodney and Sam respond to a listener question about how to design an organizational operating system from scratch, without inheriting all the baggage of traditional management. They argue for resisting the urge to over-design early, letting real tension (not theory) drive structure, and focusing on a few foundational practices that scale. From operating rhythms and Kanban boards to experimentati...

Jan 19, 202611 minSeason 9Ep. 3

41. Why Your AI Strategy Stalled and How To Get Moving with Greg Shove

Enterprise AI adoption is still stuck in the teens and the gap between the hype and the reality is getting harder to ignore. People are finding pockets of productivity, but they’re often keeping the gains to themselves, worried that “using AI well” is just speed-running their way into a layoff. Meanwhile, many leaders treat it like another piece of software without touching the messier truth: AI changes how work actually happens, and it doesn’t care about your org chart, your approval chains, or...

Jan 12, 202654 minSeason 9Ep. 2

AUA: How Do You Measure the ROI of Org Design?

Leaders often ask for a clear, immediate ROI on org design and transformation work—but that question can derail the conversation before it even starts. When ROI is framed purely as short-term financial return, it misses how organizations actually change and improve over time. In this mini Ask Us Anything episode, Rodney and Sam unpack how to approach ROI conversations in org design more productively. They explore why separate “transformation metrics” usually miss the point, how to anchor ROI to ...

Jan 05, 20268 minSeason 9Ep. 1

40. Our 2026 Predictions: Expect the Unexpected

As 2025 comes to a close, AI hype is still everywhere, workers are feeling the strain of constant change, and organizations are quietly reorganizing who (or what) does the work. We’re ending the year with some big questions: What happens to the “middle” of organizations? How do humans fit into increasingly AI-driven systems? And where does real value—human and otherwise—get created? With only a few days left until the new year, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin look ahead to how AI, jobs, and organiz...

Dec 29, 202524 minSeason 8Ep. 32

AUA: Can Internal Transformation Teams Really Drive Change?

Many people who want to work in organizational change hit the same question: is it better to do this work from inside an organization, or from the outside as a consultant? In this AUA mini episode, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin respond to a listener who’s considering a career shift into org change and wrestling with whether internal transformation teams can really drive meaningful change—or whether outside consultants have more leverage. They unpack why internal org design teams are often constra...

Dec 22, 20258 minSeason 8Ep. 31

39. Performance Management "Needs Improvement"

Everyone knows performance management is broken—but we keep doing it anyway. Why? For decades, organizations have poured time, money, and emotional energy into performance management—even though almost everyone agrees it’s broken. Annual reviews take hundreds of hours, distort real feedback, collapse development into compensation, and leave both managers and employees frustrated. Worse, they often lower performance rather than improve it. And yet most companies keep doubling down on a system tha...

Dec 15, 202552 minSeason 8Ep. 30

AUA: How Do You Balance Autonomy With Alignment In IT Teams?

Every organization eventually hits the same wall: central teams aren’t responsive enough, federated teams reinvent everything, and the result is a messy tug-of-war between alignment and autonomy. IT organizations feel this pain especially acutely. In this mini Ask Us Anything episode, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin unpack why centralized vs. decentralized is a false binary, why organizations swing endlessly between the two, and what it actually takes to design a federated model that works in the r...

Dec 08, 202511 minSeason 8Ep. 29

38. Running Better Experiments at Work

Get the Experiment Proposal Template mentioned in this episode. Everyone says they want to “experiment” at work—especially now that AI is reshaping how teams operate—but most organizations still treat change like a project plan: analyze, design, roll out, hope for the best. The result? Fake experiments that are over-controlled and over-planned, or chaotic side projects that burn people out and quietly die. In systems this complex, you can’t think your way to the right answer, but you can test an...

Dec 01, 202551 minSeason 8Ep. 28

AUA: Your Team Isn't Ready For Your Future

How do you bring people along when you’re already living in the future? In this mini episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin tackle a listener question about how to lead from the future without alienating your coworkers in the present. They explore what happens when you see change coming before others do—and how to turn that foresight into small, credible experiments that earn trust and build momentum. They discuss: — Why being “a few years ahead” can feel lonely and frus...

Nov 24, 20258 minSeason 8Ep. 27

37. Leadership Across Generations with Raven Solomon

It’s easy to blame “kids these days” when generational tension flares up at work. But beneath the eye rolls and stereotypes are deeper forces (economic shifts, social movements, and broken workplace systems) that shape how each generation sees loyalty, ambition, and success. From Boomers to Gen Z, we’ve all inherited stories about what work should look like and they don’t always fit the world we’re in now. In this episode, Rodney Evans sits down with Raven Solomon—author, keynote speaker, and CE...

Nov 17, 202557 minSeason 8Ep. 26

AUA: Surviving the Culture Shock of an International Merger

What happens when your small European company gets acquired by a massive American one? In this mini Ask Us Anything episode of At Work with The Ready , Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig into what really happens when mergers cross not just company lines—but cultures . They unpack the hidden dynamics behind clashing values, communication styles, and leadership expectations that make cross-border integrations so difficult. They discuss: — Why culture work is always the hardest (and most ignored) par...

Nov 10, 20258 minSeason 8Ep. 25

36. What AI Is Teaching Us About Ourselves

Get the AI Coffee Club toolkit to start one at your own organization: Download here! AI isn’t coming—it’s here. Every organization is already feeling its impact, whether through new tools, shifting expectations, or the quiet panic of not knowing where to start. But most companies are doing what they always do: treating transformation like a plan instead of an experiment. And as AI reshapes how work gets done, the biggest risk isn’t falling behind—it’s automating the dysfunctions you already have...

Nov 03, 202549 minSeason 8Ep. 24

AUA: How to Change When People Are Loyal To The Past

How do you change the way work happens when everyone agrees on what to do—but no one wants to change how it’s done? In this mini episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin tackle a listener question about navigating change inside legacy systems where authority, tradition, and “the way we’ve always done it” still rule. They explore why emotional loyalty to old processes can stall transformation, and how small experiments and “pair coding for organizational change” can help te...

Oct 27, 20258 minSeason 8Ep. 23

35. Fighting Burnout At Work

Burnout has become the quiet epidemic of modern work. We tell people to “set better boundaries” or “take more time off,” but the real problem isn’t a lack of self-care—it’s that most organizations are designed to exhaust their people. Fear-based cultures, unclear priorities, and performative busyness have turned overwork into a badge of honor, leaving even the most capable teams running on fumes. In this episode, Rodney and Sam unpack the systemic roots of burnout and why it thrives inside tradi...

Oct 20, 202548 minSeason 8Ep. 22
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