Hey, this is Sandy. And Randy? And we're here on AT Corner. Being an Ath Eye trainer comes with ups and downs and we're here to showcase it all. Join us as we share our world in sports medicine. Welcome back to another episode of AT Corner. For this week's episode, we are going to be celebrating episode 200. A very special episode indeed. That's crazy. Just think 200 episodes. I know honestly, when I when I was writing 200, I was like, what is this? Is this real?
I feel like this kind of snuck up on us. And you know what? What better way to celebrate episode 200 then sharing stories of working a sport that provides endless entertainment. I feel like it's also a very superstitious sport, so putting it as #200 I feel like just felt right. That's true.
I didn't think of that. So also I think just to show the difference in how much not just our podcast has grown, but just like us personally as clinicians and me personally, the last time we recorded a Baseball Stories episode was before I worked baseball. Yeah. And I, I, I think, I don't, I believe it was before I worked baseball because I remember not not liking baseball, like not liking working, but I liked watching baseball. But I think you were about to, like, work some baseball.
Yeah, I don't think I had really worked baseball previously and I was definitely trying to avoid it. But now, I mean, if if you would have taken me back to that episode and told me now that baseball is my second favorite sport to work, like right there, right underneath football, I would have been so like, I wouldn't have believed you, you. Would have been like Nah. Yeah, definitely not. So the very first question I asked on our Instagram Stories was have you ever worked baseball?
And 93% of people said yes. Oh, that's a pretty overwhelming majority. And it was, yeah. And all these polls that that I took from this episode, all of them have at least a couple 100 votes on them. Dang. Yeah. So that is a resounding yes. I can honestly say as it as a certified I have not worked baseball. Which is crazy. I did as a student. Especially with you playing baseball.
I don't know. Yeah. Well, because most of the time it was either track or I worked mostly female sports, so softball, but. You did work all baseball, which softball stories we haven't done yet, but I am, I am waiting. I am trying to put together something good for that one. So. That's in the works. Yes. What is your favorite memory from working baseball? Well, you worked baseball as a student. Yeah, Oh, so many, countless ones, I think, I don't know.
I think the one that stands out that really just describes just baseball in general is when the the time I dropped the ice roll bag and it rolled down the dugout. Like did it completely unroll? It it made about halfway through the dugout. Did anyone notice? I think a few guys did. And of course, you're a student, so you're like, you're even more flustered now because you're like, Oh my God, that was wild. Yeah. Because like, because we had a roll in the in the dugout of ice
bags and this is a big roll. So like obviously it's not attached to anything. It's just the roll. Oh, you like the? Oh, I understand. Yeah. So like as you're trying to get, you have to like kind of. Toss. It's like dropping an ace wrap but worse. Yeah, yeah, right. And so you have to toss it to actually get it to roll, right? Because it's not like on something that on rolls, right? And then you just lose it.
And again, you're a student, so you're shook the whole time, especially working at where I, my athletic training program, baseball is what we were known for. So like when you're on baseball, right? Like that's the big team there. So like you just being in the dugout, you're shook. I remember when I was scared to go in the dugout. This actually, I think this will be my fourth season working baseball now. Nice. Yeah, that's pretty good.
I know it's crazy it. Just shows you how long ago that last episode was. Seriously, like it was so long ago we were babies? We were babies. The podcast sounded a lot different than yes it did. So my favorite memory was probably, well, actually not probably like for sure, hands down, I don't think I can top this ever in my career when I got to throw the first pitch. Oh, that is cool. That's a cool experience.
It was, it was I was terrified that I wasn't going to make it or that I was just going to like shake it off to the side. But you didn't. But I didn't. I didn't. And you got it there. I did that was that was really. Did you throw it? From the mound too, by the way. I can't. Remember or was it No well, I I stood on the on the what is it like dirt of the mound like but but like really close to the grass. Oh, OK. So it's kind of like more towards the front.
Of the yeah, yeah, I, I wasn't on the top. I couldn't remember. I wasn't on the top of the mound. I don't think I can throw that far. I I don't think I can throw that far accurately. Still, by the way, I mean, that's still because the mound is 60 feet, 6 inches. So you were still probably, what, 55 feet? Yeah, it's still, it's still a long way. Yeah, that that was really special.
And then secondly was seeing one of my guys IA lot of these stories that I am telling, I tell all the time 'cause they're my favorite. One of my guys was coming back from a a really bad hamstring strain and he hit a double and just like seeing him like just make it to second. Yeah, that was so I I can literally still picture his celebration. Oh, that's. Cool. I'd say another good, good baseball core memory was because we practiced in the evenings.
So obviously when practice was done, it was late at night. So no one else is in the athletic training room. It's just us. And you know, a couple guys came in like just for like a few of the pitchers came in for like, they're just like arm care stuff. And again, no one else in the athletic trainer, it's just baseball. So they grabbed our radios and they started just going back and forth with Big Red, this is Big Red, Big Red there just going back and forth on the radios.
That was fun. Baseball does know how to have fun. Exactly. So our first story is anonymous. Favorite memory from working baseball was at a home game when I was working. NAIA, one of my favorite kids, slid into third, popped up and immediately yelled to me and waved me over. I ran the few feet over from the dugout and he pulled his dislocated index finger out of the batting glove.
It was dislocated anteriorly. I grabbed his hand, turned my body away from him and the first time I tried to reduce it, it popped right back in. My team heard the pop of it going back in too. He flexed his fingers and was fine. His team mates cheered and I felt like a badass. Our coach didn't even know what had happened. I think he had been talking to the UMP and was coming towards us when I was returning to the
dugout. I re evaled him when he got in the back back into the dugout and told him to get it X-rayed to be sure there was no swelling or limited range of motion. First successful finger reduction. Nice, I have not gotten a finger dislocation in baseball but I've had a lot of fractures. Yes, you have a lot of weird fractures too. Honestly, I've had a lot of weird, like not making sense injuries in in baseball, yeah. I mean, that's just, that's par for the course with baseball.
Actually, yeah, that's true. Just something not by the book or what you would expect. Oh, yeah, definitely not. Oh, I did ask the most common injury you've seen in baseball, and I did tally up these, and these are just based off what people have seen. Yeah, the most common that people submitted were actually rotator cuff and over your
shoulder. So things like bicep tendonitis, impingement, like stuff like that, I could see that I was actually expecting elbow a little bit more than shoulder because I feel like I see more forearm flexors and unfortunately more Ucls. Then I feel like I I eval a lot more elbows than I eval shoulders. Interesting. But it could just be. Guys coming out of my elbows. Cash, bro. Could definitely be how they're throwing. Probably elbows cash bro, can't feel my pinky.
We're gonna get Randy Baseball bro LL episode. That's all. I I that's all I heard when I was in the dugout. Oh, yeah, My elbows cashed. I think I'm done today. I got some bad hair. Bad hair. No, they come and they go. Can I get cupped? Can I get scraped all the time? That's what I hear all the time. Yeah, I didn't get that. I don't know how you didn't get that literally.
Because because they had like a it, it was basically the same idea, but they didn't like come and ask for like the treatment. They just all had like, because a lot of it was like the pitchers. They all had their set routine for arm care. OK, but before they have their set routine, they come in and ask. They would more ask for the the baseball ID. OK, well then there's. This person here? No. OK.
No, I'm telling you that. Yeah, no, I. I out of all the teams, baseball is always the team that comes in and asks like for something specific. And I'm like, you know, you can come in here and say, Hey, my shoulders hurts or it's really tight or yeah, you don't have to and or they'll come in my favorite. This is my favorite. I have this going on. I don't I don't know what treatment to do for it. OK, cool. What? What? What do you think I do?
Yeah, you didn't need. To. Know not expected to. Right. OK. So anyway, back to common injuries. Hamstring strain actually was up there. I know that is kind of interesting, but I guess it is kind of like you're going from like stationary, relatively stationary to all of a sudden I have to Sprint real fast, right, Right. Because like batter's box, right? You're kind of just standing swing and then you got to book it out. Same thing in a fielder's
position, right? You kind of, yeah, you, you take a step into your stance, but you're still standing still and then have to do something quick. So I I kind of get that. I mean, I've definitely seen a lot of hamstring strains, but it's just like when I'm picturing like all the things I'm treating like I'm I'm not like that. That definitely didn't come to mind, but like it makes sense. Like it is one of my more common.
Yeah. It just I was not expecting it to be so prevalent, I guess with with people submitting, but elbow flexor injuries was actually after hamstring strain. Interesting contusions from being hit by a ball, of course, UCL and then ankle sprains. Nice. And then some other random. Just injuries. OK, so this one is actually we got we got a ton of anonymous stories from this one. So this is also anonymous. This is from someone getting hurt while bunting.
You know what? Like that is a very dangerous aspect. It really is. You do. Have to actually know how to bunt correctly and even if you do, like sometimes it's just it's baseball. So it's just you never know what's going to happen. Honestly that's what kept me from working baseball for so long is it's like someone could just get hit by a projectile and like. Yes, that's traveling extremely fast.
Yeah. Like I just, I got hit by like some dude that threw like 85 in my forearm and that hurt. You did. Uh huh. So I couldn't, I couldn't imagine 90 plus in the face. Yeah. Or anywhere else? Yeah, so this anonymous one kid was bunting ball ricocheted off the butt of the bat. Oh no, it bounced on home plate and back into my athletes testicles. You know what I mean? Obviously the testicle part is not great like that. Sucks but. Yeah. Any guesses on whether or not he
was wearing a cup? I'm. Going to say probably not, but it it could have been a lot worse of it just ricocheting hit him just straight straight in the face. Oh, hey, I had that. I'll I'll tell that story a little bit later. He ended up in the ER as his testicle had ruptured. Of course, naturally. He had surgery that night, but they saved the test. There we go. He also returned to finish the season a few weeks later. He's now playing in a local university. Dope. So still playing.
Still playing. Another bunting coach called me. That kids finger was bleeding. His top hand index finger was wrapped around the front of the barrel of the bat. Our pitching machine caught the seam of the ball and his finger got squished and popped like a grape. Oh man. And one more for good measure. You guessed it, another bunting injury. Same pitching machine that caught the seam of a ball. Did it again. This time the ball went straight
from my athletes jaw. He need 9 stitches at the point of impact but the force fractured his temporal bone at the TMJ. The only reason it was even caught was because ears started bleeding and they did X-rays and Mris. He was perfectly fine, able to talk and everything. He had minor jaw pain for a week but was able to play before the season. Ended nice. It's not bad, right?
See Bunting. Dude bunting bunting scares me because I feel like I get so many injuries bunting 1 because I'm also so scared of like the collisions that can happen from bunting 2 like the like how many fingers have I had smashed so many. I I feel like these stories submitted could basically be mine. Like I had just had a kid like the other day who did that to his finger. It it wasn't bleeding, it was his nail we drained 'cause it was it was it literally his
finger looked like a lollipop. That sucks. Yeah. And then one time I was eating dinner and I was about to head out to football practice and these baseball players like run in and they're like, we need a trainer. And they just like, and they just like ran. And I was like, OK. And they're like, there's a lot of blood. There's a lot of blood. So then I go and I grab a like a the entire box of gauze. Yeah.
And then I just run out there and I like am eating dinner like I have chicken like stuck in my teeth and I run over and our one of our kids took a bunt. Well, it hit a rigshade off the bat and then straight into his eye. Oh. That sucks. Yeah, orbital fracture end up needing surgery. Bummer. Yeah, he's doing really well now. That's. Good. Nice. It was, yeah. As soon as I found out who it was too, I was like, no, not that you want it to happen to anyone, but yeah, yeah, bunting is.
It's not for the faint of heart. No, honestly, I think I don't know who you have to be to stand in front of a pitcher who's throwing. Out ass. A little tiny hardball that fast. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's also worse. Like if the person definitely can't control it because then you really don't know where it's going to go.
Yeah, honestly, Oh my goodness. You know, the longest innings are the ones where, like, the pitcher just doesn't have control and they just keep hitting batter after batter and you're like, OK, like. Gosh, I don't think he's got. It like hitting him in the like forearm, hitting him in like the back, you know, But then like when, when is this going to hit someone in the face? Yeah, when is this going to break someone's finger? Yeah, hey, but he's setting the
tone. I I had a kid take a pitch straight to the kneecap and his and his kneecap was completely fine. Yeah. I was like, I don't know how you did not shatter your Patella. Yeah, I do not know. Yeah. That hurts. Mm hmm, Allison S said. I was a college baseball AT for the last four years. The craziest thing I ever saw was a broken jaw. Pitchers were practicing throwing home to get the out and a ball went wide and hit one of the catchers standing in the
background. Immediately put towels and paper towels on it to try to get to stop bleeding. Didn't know how broken it was at the time. Just try to control the bleeding. Called the parents and had his roommate drive him to the ERI Went up there that night and the next morning to talk to the parents again too. He had surgery the next day. End up being broken in two. Places. That's a bummer. Broken jaw we actually got several stories about. That's interesting.
I mean, I get it 'cause like projectile sport, but like, that's interesting. That's yeah, yeah. I was very surprised too. That's really interesting. I don't know that I've like personally heard of anyone dealing with a broken jaw from baseball. So like the fact that we got so many was just like surprising. Like surprising, not in the fact that it can happen, but it's just surprising that like, I haven't heard of people around me, I guess. Yeah, for sure.
That reminds me when we were students, one of one of the one of my friends in my cohort, he had terrible luck out of baseball and softball and literally it's just rotten luck just not paying attention at the wrong moment. Like he was standing like we would for softball, like we'd cover like these large tournaments. So we'd our medical staff would be out there even if our school wasn't playing right be the host medical and he just wasn't paying attention And a foul ball hit him.
I can't remember where. I think I hit him in the face actually. And then for baseball specifically, he was walking to do water for umpires I believe, and walked behind somebody that was in the on deck circle and the dude swung his bat, clocked him in the head. He actually needed stitches. He had he had to leave the game to go get stitches. Wow. So when you're at that training, students get hurt. Actually, that's you. Want to read this next story?
So Bailey P says had our starting catcher turn into the guy on deck. He caught the bat right between the eyes and had to get 7 stitches. Dumbest injury just because the kid wasn't paying attention. I cleaned and steri stripped him. It was at a place that had an on site PA so I just sent him there and monitored him for concussion symptoms after he didn't end up having symptoms thankfully. He got his stitches out a few days later and was good to play. Dude I think it was actually
about that many stitches. Well, it was cool as we actually got to take the stitches out of them. Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah, we were actually going to a conference. Oh, that is. And it was about the time where he could have got him out. And we were in the hotel room. He's like, let's take him on stitches. All right, let's do it.
That's pretty funny. Yeah, that I don't know why this reminds me, maybe because we're talking about Jaws, but one of my least favorite memories working baseball was when my. Oh, This is why 'cause it's our starting catcher. Our starting catcher got hit in the jaw while obviously while
he's catching. And it was during a playoff game and I had just gotten a new job and like he, I, I went out there 'cause it took a little while for like, he kept kind of playing with his jaw and like just, he just kind of, he was taking his time to get back. And I just, so I went out there and I was talking to him and he just kept like kept closing his eyes. And I was like, you know, are you having any headache or like anything like residual?
And there were just enough things that I was like, I need to evaluate him for a concussion like, and so then I, I was asking symptoms and then finally I, I was like, I don't feel comfortable like walking away from this without getting like more of an eval. But I was like, well, what am I supposed to do 'cause it like I you can't really take someone out, Yeah. Baseball's Baseball's tough that way. Right. And he was like, I was like standing at home playing, right?
And this is a playoff game. And so I was like, And so like, the the UMP is there, the coach is there, and the UMP's like, do you like, I don't know if the UMP asked me no, 'cause no, I said I need to evaluate him for a concussion. Yeah, and said, you have 10 minutes. So they stopped the game for 10 minutes, a playoff game at a new job. I was very, I hated every single minute of those 10 minutes because, well, first I was also really hoping. I was like, like, please don't
make this a difficult decision. Like I do not want to have to decide if I'm going to take this kid out or not. And you end up being completely fine. Yeah, I remember that. That was crazy. Yeah, I was. And I think I. Wondered what happened. Yeah. 'Cause I think you had just gotten there. I just got there and like the game was like stopped and I'm like, what's going? On No, it was definitely me. It was. It was not. It's something that I would not like to do ever again.
That's unique, though. I know it. It really was, it was not cool. And I was like, this is how people are going to like, this is my first impression with all these people. And they just think that I'm going to like, take stop all these games. You know, at my job, my first basketball game involved a raccoon, so. Oh, that was your first time? That was loaded my first basketball game. Raccoon just ran on the court so it's OK. I didn't realize always your first game.
That's hilarious. So I'm with you. I mean, if anything, it just gave the team some a breather, a 10 minute. Breather, you did. You did your team a service. I did a team my service by making sure their starting catcher didn't have a concussion. Yes, their only catcher I believe. Only catcher you want to read this anonymous one. Yes, I was rehabbing UCL reconstruction with nerve retatch reattachment for a JUCO kid. One month into it he started throwing and was progressing just fine.
He then started having radicular pain. Oh no. I know, not good. When I tested him I couldn't recreate symptoms nor find positive findings besides having a dead arm after throwing. Oh no. I immediately knew something was off so I suggested he go talk to his surgeon. After toxin imaging he tore where his ulnar nerve was reattached. That sucks. He had to get surgery again and re reattach his ulnar nerve.
It took him about two years to get back into baseball activities and was able to pitch at a high level at AD One School. That's crazy that he was able to go back to that. That's awesome. That's dope. That's hard after a set back like that. Seriously, two years? We were just last night we were reading an article about two years if it'd be better for was it 2 years to get back after an ACL team to. Return to sport.
Yeah, to return to sport instead of like the one year time frame, Yeah. Nine months to one year. Yeah. That's a hot take. It it was. It was. I I get where it was going. Yes, tangent, tangent. But I feel like that's going to be, yeah, that's a hard sell. If you're interested in this research article, we have the citation, we can give it to you. Yes.
Anyway, this anonymous 1. I had to call 911 during preseason practice and athlete's foot got caught rounding for space and they dislocated their knee and Patella. Oh man. Wait, wait, what? What did this knee look like? Like I'm trying to. He OK listen he was going into shock end up tearing ACL both menisci spraying the MCLLCL in a little damage to the PCL. OK, but I figured. But get this now the athlete is
fully recovered. He made it to cross country States and now PR in track and field and committed to AD one school for track and field after dislocating their knee. Like not just their Patella and their Patella. Yeah, but probably a safer move to do go track you probably, probably less. Hurt. I mean, it's a. It's a predictable turn. You only turn left, Yeah, except in baseball you also only turn left. Or you do. Just. But it's it's a sharp, yeah, it's a sharper turn and it's on dirt.
Honestly, or turf. I don't know how more athletes do not get hurt on the freaking bags. Yeah, the bags are are dangerous. Like like when I first started working baseball, it concerned me every single time someone stepped on a bag. Like every single time. Speaking of bases, one of my athletes actually, I just got permission from him today to share this because I thought it was so fascinating.
This, this injury. He was, I think it, I think it was first base he had, he had made it successfully, but he and he stepped on the base. Oh, nobody tripped. He tripped over the base and the landing foot landed like right after and he felt like he just like like jammed his foot. Oh, OK. And he came in and obviously
like really scary for him. He, he walked in, he was able to walk, he walked in and a couple of us were kind of taking a look at him and I just did some palpations and palpating. Literally no pain. Like cannot get any recreation of pain at all until. And I, I did this only because he was having pain with plantar flexion. So I took my, my left hand and I just like put it along the lateral side of his foot and I just palpated the lateral side.
And then while I was palpating the lateral side, I then palpated the medial side and that lit him up. Oh, nice. And so then I was like, hmm, OK. And then I then I palpated the medial side and I took my lateral hand away and he was having no pain. So if I had both, if I was palpating both or like if I kind of like shifted his posterior like ankle like area, if I shifted that like medial or laterally, then he would have
pain. So I said, and of course this is coming from someone who's worked with performing arts for years. I said, hmm, this plantar flexion irritated from so like a sudden trauma and he has a previous injury to this ankle and I can get in and he's having pain with like that, that palpation pattern. I wonder if he has an OS trigonum. Oh yeah. And then so I asked to see his X-ray from before. He didn't have an X-ray from before, but then he we end up referring him and lo and behold, I.
Was just hit, lo and behold. I was trying to get him. He end up getting a an injection and that helped a ton. Oh, nice. Yeah. And now we're just taping him, keeping him from that plantar flexion. Sweet. As much as possible. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. But I thought that was like a really odd presentation. Yeah, that's interesting, especially in baseball. Like yeah, I've seen him in dance before, but pretty cool, huh? Yeah, that's pretty dope. Have you ever had to call 911 at a baseball game?
I was actually really surprised by the pole answer of this. I know looking at it. Only 23% of people said yes, which actually I. Mean maybe a good thing. I am also part of that 23% knock on wood. Yeah, seriously. Knock on wood. Yeah, 77% of people said no. That's good. But I feel like if you, I feel like baseball is like one of those, one of those sports that's like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. And then it's not. It's really bad, Really. Quick. Yeah. Like really bad.
Like collisions? Hell yeah, this anonymous one says a collision at first base resulted in a tibial plateau fracture. No deformity is just a ton of. Pain, I bet. Like collision at first, collision in the outfield. Oh yeah, outfield. Yeah, collision at home. Guys not talking. Collision at second, honestly collision anywhere, Anthony H said. I had to call 911 for dislocated ankle from the runner sliding into second base. They're fully. Thankfully there was no blood.
I end up cutting the shoe and sock off. I did splint it but EMS told us to keep him on the field instead of putting him on the cart and take him off the field. I think seeing one as a student helped me know exactly what I need to do. Nice. So Anthony's actually our one of our part times and like he he works full time somewhere else, but it was a day that none of us could work. And I remember like being at
shabu, like I was eating shabu. And I remember getting getting a text about this and I was like, what? There's a dislocated ankle? Like what crazy of. Course it happens to the part time. Right of. Course it does. Yeah, but he's he's been working with us for a long time. And also, like of all people, he has had an ankle dislocation in baseball before. Oh, that's unlucky. Right. That's super unlucky. Seriously, I was like, wow. That's unlucky.
I'm telling you, the like the bases being raised is just so scary to me. Yeah, I mean, I get that, like visibility. I get it. See bags just taking casualties. Yeah, they really do. You want to read this next from Kelly C. Yes, Kelly C says runner going from third base to home. Decided to slide head 1st instead of getting down low enough. Went pretty high and head first
into the catcher. I had to hold C spine and call 911. I was working for DM at the high school and had communicated with the athletic director beforehand about an EAP and such, but he was not there that day. Of course not. Yeah, that's how Eaps usually work. There were gates that were locked, and the ambulance ended up having to drive all around the school and break down a gate in order to come get the patient. It was eventful, to say the least. That's crazy EMS breaking down a
gate. Dude. That's pretty funny. Per diem sometimes is so tough. It's wild. Even like if you, even if you like Kelly, like try to get the EAP like, yeah, but there there's another collision for you, yeah. Head first. This is something actually we don't talk about enough. I feel like knowing catcher's gear and knowing how to like, it's really easy to remove. Yeah, but how like have you practiced? But also like. Like sea spinning or?
The face mask could be different, like the old school style, sure that that might be somewhat easier to manage. But like the hockey goalie style, like how do you take that off? Yeah. So knowing that, yeah, I need to go look at ours. Yeah. What is your criteria to take an athlete out of a game or the opposite, keep them in the game during baseball I feel like I. Say, are they functional? Honestly. So I actually didn't know this
until recently. My first couple games, when I first started working baseball, I don't think I really paid attention to this. But now, like now that I've been working it for a couple years, like I understand it a little bit more. Like when you take someone out like there's no subbing like they're done like. Can't. Can't reenter.
Yeah. So I think that that's why it makes a little bit more sense, like when people are talking about like on field evals for like a baseball athlete, it's kind of like, well, you're gonna do everything you can cause it's not like they're gonna come back in. Yeah, and. Like you do functional, like it's one of the sports that you'll actually do. Like functional on the field. Yeah, you can actually ask. Hey, let's see a couple throws. Yeah.
Especially like if you have to go out for your pitcher. Yeah. Or your catcher. Yeah. Like when I had my catcher, I was like, hey, like, I want to catch a few. Yeah. And I just stood there and just a watch. We all watch. It's like, yeah. Yeah, it looks. Great. OK, OK. Sounds good. Yeah, you can. Walk back, you look great. We had a couple different responses for this one. I kind of put some together, all
anonymous. One person said it varies off of position injury, but I'm looking for normal game type movements with little to no pain. So like some examples outfielders can they make their cuts and cuts are like so an outfielder is not necessarily going to throw like all the way from the outfield to like home for example. So like. Cannon if you do. So their cut would be like, like one of the infielders. Yeah. So like throwing to someone and then that person throwing home. Yeah.
So like, can they make their cuts batters? Can they grip a bat or fully swing? Can they handle the reverberation from a bat when hitting? Can they run and step on bases? Can they slide with no issues? Nice. There are some things that you can like get around, like if it's like a hand or something like the oven Mitt that they could wear with when sliding. Yeah, or the thumb, little thumb piece, the. Little. Yeah. What is it? A pro hitter? Sure. The little pro hitter you can put.
I haven't. I don't have any more of those, so I need to. Didn't you make? One I did make one, those just go around your thumb and they help with with reverberation for the bat. I actually learned that from one of my students when I was first working baseball. So helpful. When I when I was first working baseball, I had a student who is actually now working in minor leagues. Oh, nice. Yeah. So he really taught me a lot and a lot of like lingo.
So I I I owe it a lot to him. Thank you, Jonas, actually. So this is like knowing the different positions, I think with any sport. But like with baseball, like anyone who's unless you're ADH, like anyone who is like in the lineup is gonna have like a field position. Yeah, right. Anyone in a field position is gonna bat except for a pitcher. Yeah. So like just, you know, knowing those, knowing that like their
responsibilities. And then like, for example, like I had a kid who like was having trouble with his shoulder and like knowing like is like, do you bat right? Do you bat left? And then like which hand is your top hand or your bottom hand? And then you can kind of like see like, OK, this shoulder is like their front shoulder. So like, for example, he wasn't able to lift his arm above 90
like AB duction. And so then what I end up doing after I did like some manual therapy and like some some work, I end up and like once I was able to like restore his range of motion, I just ace wrapped him and that helped a ton. Had him go like, Hey, I need to take a couple swings and then like just like on like just like dry hacks or like what they call them when you're just like in the air like and then.
Like hitting like no contact and then you want to like make contact with a ball and then you can like go from there and like maybe they can take BP or stuff like. That yeah. Oh don't worry, before game there's plenty of BP. Oh, there's plenty. There's plenty of BP, all the abbreviations they have BPPFPS. PFPS. I had a pitcher today who was like, he said something about not taking. He was like, oh, but PFPS, but I don't do that. And I was like, aren't you a pitcher?
Hey, by the way, that costs the Yankees the World Series, so just saying PFPS are important. So actually Speaking of what you were talking about earlier with your classmate getting hit, I did ask if people have ever been hit with a baseball while working. That sucks. 29% of people said yeah. So like one in three people that sucks, get hit. Have you been hit? Not working. I've not been hit by a ball but while working. Just while playing. Just while playing. Once or multiple?
Multiple times, but the one that stands out was the kid that 385 dropped. My forearm. Was your forearm OK? It actually wasn't too bad, but it it did hurt. It did hurt. You know what I don't understand? I made it second base and it was still hurting. Ouch. Yeah. Did it leave like a nice bruise? Do you bruise? It didn't bruise, but it was swollen. Really it? Didn't discolor. I was surprised. It hurt. I've. Never heard this story.
Yeah. Do you know that when we're on the podcast, I feel like I there are so many stories you tell that I've never heard? Yeah, we just played. I played baseball with some guys one time and yeah, it hurt this dude, the other dude on the pitcher on the other team, like pitched at like AD 2 school. Oh hey, you made it to 2nd. I got on base, I did my job. Wait, how did he hit you? And you? Well, I got hit, so I got first. And then I. Think the next batter.
I think he next batter hit a single and then got me to 2nd. Got it. I understand. I thought you were just saying like, you hit. And I was like, wait, that makes no sense. OK, So that's another thing. When I actually just was talking to my first baseball coach about this the other day because he didn't believe that I had never worked baseball before working with him. And I was like, no, like I literally knew nothing before before working baseball with
you. But also, if someone gets hit by a pitch, obviously they take the, they take first base, they like walk to first base. So I one time ran out for someone who got hit and I said he was fine. And so then I was like, oh, yeah, he can finish his at bat. I'll just check in with him when he gets back to the dugout. And, and my coach was like, oh, no, he's he's, he got hit. So like he's going to 1st. I don't know how he didn't think that I was like, like baseball illiterate.
Like that is, that is like, I feel like one of the first things. Oh, maybe you thought he fouled it off. OK, maybe he gave me the benefit of the doubt. Yeah. Or like, oh, maybe you missed it and you thought he swung and it hit him and that would just be really, that'd be a really crappy strike. You know what I had in the very first, a lot in the very first year I worked was people getting hit in the tricep. That's a bummer. And then they couldn't throw. Yeah, that.
Sucks like like distal triceps. Yeah, that sucks. And all it takes, all they need to do is wear the little elbow protector, but they wouldn't wear it. I'm I'm surprised he didn't. I have. All the kids nowadays are all about it 'cause it's all the drip. Well, now, like four years ago, it wasn't. That's true. I had to like beg them and I and I literally asked them. I was like, I do not understand because when you get hit in the elbow, I just, there's not much I could do for you.
Like once your elbow soles up and you can't throw, there's just not much I could do. For you, Yeah, yeah. You want to read this one from Andrew H. Yes, in the dugout, on the steps of a sunken dugout. Kid had a late swing, the ball took two hops and hit me in the shin. Oh my goodness. I saw it coming, but it was on me before I could move. That's the worst. I picked up my foot to get out of the way just as it hit me. I had a knot for six weeks after, even with treatment. Oh my gosh.
See, Like, I feel like that's why like where I stand is like, or, yeah, anywhere I'm going to stand is an area where I just have to make one quick movement and I'm out of danger. Like softball. I always like I was at the end of the dugout, but like, I was literally at the part of the fence where if a ball comes at me, I just have to like, turn and the fence got me. Oh. That's nice. Yeah, yeah.
When I was first working baseball, I used to, I like we had a really nice setup where I was behind a chain link fence, but I was like right by right by home and there was a really easy access to the field. So like I could be at home plate like within a couple seconds. Whereas now I set up all the way past first base. Yeah. And so if someone gets hit at home, I'm like do I go? Do I not go? Do I go?
Do they need me? OK, I better start making my way over there 'cause it's gonna take me a lot longer than I wouldn't used to. Yeah. And I've, I do have a little bit of a blockage, but not as much as there. There was one time I was like sitting cause so I either stand at our little like, because the dugout fence like goes all the way, like past the dugout. Yeah. And I was either I either stand there or there's like little risers like right behind it.
And I, I sit on those risers. So one time I was sitting on the risers and a line drive came literally straight at me and I'm sitting and so like I like, I can't really like get out of the way very quickly. So then I just literally like lay back. Like I'm laying flat on this riser and one of my guys like books it out of the out of the dugout and he's like, Sandra, are you OK?
Oh my gosh, that's funny. And I, like, sat up and I was like, yeah, like it didn't hit me, but it came like real close. Like I had to lay down. And he was like, why is your face all red? And I was like, did you not see that? I just had to like. Matrixes. Exactly. That is true at least where you're at. Like you're further down the line. Yeah, at least I have a couple seconds.
Yeah, you have some reaction time because you're right and you're where you're set up. It is hard to like be in a position where you can make a quick movement and then you're safe. Right, you're right. You don't have, you almost have to go down 'cause that's where the net. Right, you're right. You don't. Yeah, almost have to be like.
I if I remember correctly, I feel like in our first baseball, I think it was in the baseball episode, someone was behind the net and they thought like, oh the net will save me. But the net like ripped. That's unlucky. Yeah, and so it still hit him. Yeah, Bryce A says. I set up in the dugout, large rolling toolbox kit outside of the gate. Once was in the back corner of the dugout when a foul went into the dugout. I dodge it initially and then it ricocheted twice and hit me in
the jaw. No fracture or other issues. A second time was at an away game and I was sitting in the host a TS golf cart with him as he was an early mentor for me. My big hitter came up to bat and smoked it. It curved foul on the 3rd baseline and sunk right into my thigh on the golf cart because I couldn't get out fast enough. Oh no, the jaw was definitely a shock. The thigh was just laughed off. My boys made the hitter do push ups for hitting me. Yes.
Absolutely, that's the only appropriate response. Do you want to read this one from Aaron? Yes, Aaron says they turned the game into a Home Run Derby because of a rain out situation. There was a high fly ball that came over the dugout, which is uncovered and dropped right on my foot. What were the odds? I didn't move because usually when you move, you move into it. So I just stayed where I was so I could track it. It didn't hit too hard. Yeah, that's true.
You don't want to try and move too much, but if you're going to move like I feel like you can move, but like you have to just, you just have to go. You have to commit to your direction and just book it. Right, right. I feel like there are sometimes that I track the ball really well, but the times that I that I can't track the ball. Actually, when I first started working baseball, I feel like I
couldn't really track the ball. But there are times that, like, I'm either not paying attention or like, I can't track the ball. And I feel like that's when I'm like, ah, shoot, I gotta, like, move out of the way real quickly because for something that's like, way further, yeah, then I need to move for, but because, like, I'm not paying attention and don't know exactly where it is. Yeah. Courtney G, This one's a little scary. Never been hit by a ball, but I did almost get hit with a
baseball bat. Yeah, that would be scary. Needless to say, I'm no longer scared of balls. I was working semi professional baseball, standing next to the manager inside by the rope, so there wasn't much protection. Our batter was two and three, so normally a swing no matter what. He was pretty mad. So he put all that anger into his swing. That bat flew and went straight towards the dugout I was in. He apologized the next day. Sorry court didn't mean to almost kill you.
Oh my gosh, that's funny. That's terrifying. Yeah. Yeah, that's terrifying. Or when the bat breaks. That's really scary. And it's loud. Yeah, it is. But like, yeah, 'cause like at that level are they using wood bats? So they stick it, splinter and all that. That's terrible. But if a bat breaks at our level, that's a big problem because they're not supposed to break. What do you mean? Like our bats are not wooden bats, so they're not really. They shouldn't be breaking.
So when they do, it's really bad. Yeah. And that does happen every now and then. I did have an athlete and I don't know if I'm going to be able to find the picture, but I don't know if the ball like went into the bat or if the ball split on the bat or like how, but like he was hitting. It was actually one of my catchers. He. Was. You know, but they did post a picture and it went viral. Yeah, that's what I thought. He went to hit it and it just
stayed on the bat. I'll have to find the picture. Like it's it's viral. So I have to I have to find. It it did go viral 'cause I remember seeing it and I saw the school and I said. Hey, hold on. Yeah, wait a minute, Do you know about this? Yeah, I literally went like back to work the next day and I was like, dude, what is this? Is this you? And he's like, yeah, no, that's real. Everyone was saying it wasn't real. He's like, no, it happened yesterday.
It's like, Dang, I wasn't there. That is one thing. Like, I really enjoy going out to baseball practice when I can. Yeah. And I feel like it helps you build so much more rapport. Depending on the level there's some a TS like go out there and shag balls with the team during practice. I'm not on that level yet, but that's pretty cool. You want to read this next time from Steven? Yes, Steven says.
Broke my finger with my finger. I was watching the game, ball came flying toward me. I was actually protecting my monster that was in my pocket. I just didn't want it to explode in my hand. I also needed the caffeine lol. Still have the ball though. I kept working and had our doc take a quick look at it the following day, splinted it and kept on going. Sounds like an AT. Yeah, just. Kept on going. So I do have two more kind of sections. 1 is what is a must
have in your kit. I think what I want to do with these is I'm going to put them in our Facebook group. If you're interested in looking at them, our Facebook group is facebook.com/group/AT Corner Podcast. So we'll put in the baseball must haves in your kit. And then if you have any more must haves, please let us know, put them in our Facebook group. And then just lastly, just some
general tips and tricks. Yeah, like I feel like baseball is not really like even like baseball and softball like are completely different animals to work. Yes, they are not the same. Both are very fun. Yes. I feel like fall and spring are just completely different. The only thing that's the same between them is just the length of the game just can vary. Like buckle up for all day. I've had a 5 hour game. See, that's terrible. That sounds terrible.
It was a it was very, very like I was just ready. I think everyone was ready. Probably, no. Yeah, no one must be there at that point, because that's not even counting everything that happened before the actual game. Yeah, because they because they get their stuff. Yeah, it's an all day thing. It is 100% an all day thing. Tips and trick. Number one that everyone. This is like the number one answer. Bring snacks. Yeah, most importantly, bring seeds you. Want to read this first
anonymous one? Yes, always keep an eye on the ball. Pitchers love to have a towel between innings. Educate on self manual work. You're out there to cover the game, not to massage arms. Honestly most of the time like the ball is where the action is going to be unless someone is stealing. Yeah, but that is a good point. Just keep an eye on the ball. Yes, Also yeah, like always. Just, I don't know, keep your head on a swivel, like especially in between innings.
You think you're safe in between innings, but remember, like, like infields tossing the ball around. You never know when you get that stray one, you're not paying attention. Whoa, hey, hey. Oh, this is this would have been a good question to ask. How often? Oh yeah, that is scary. Like overthrows. How often do you water the UMPS? Depends. Yeah, I depends. Yeah, depends on how hot. My goal, my goal, and sometimes I'm really good at this goal and sometimes I am so bad at this
goal is about every two innings. I feel like if it's hot. I definitely do more if it's. Yeah, I feel like if it's hot, I'll do every inning and then I feel like when it's not hot, I'll probably do every two except softball. I do it a little bit faster. It in softball I actually don't want to UMPS because the UMPS usually bring their own water. Yeah, most of the time I've I've had that. I'm not sure why. Like softball specifically. Yeah. Like baseball does not.
Maybe shorter shorter field so. Like. Maybe you can have it close by, you don't have to move as far. Whereas like, I don't know, that's the only, I don't even think that's a good reason. I just feel like that's the only reason I could think of. Yeah. But yeah, I think softball, I do it faster than I do baseball
because it's a shorter game. I usually ask them, I'm like I'll I'll go out there after inning 2, like the end of inning 2 and then I will say, hey, I'll be back in two unless you want it sooner. And usually they're pretty good with that. That's. Nice. Yeah, and or they'll like and I get their names, so then I can and usually.
Well, here's the thing. When I was working in my last conference, like I knew all the UMPS 'cause they like they all would work like the same UMPS would work the same games. And so I got to know them and they all knew who I was. And so it was really easy 'cause we were on a first name basis. And actually I just worked a game that one of my one of the old UMPS was there and he was like, hey, I remember you. So that was like kind of cool, like full circle moment.
But I feel like the it's like it's like so variable. Yeah. Because also there are some moms who are like, oh, I don't want to drink that much because I'm going to have to pee in the middle of the game. Yeah. And you don't never know how long these games are going to be. Well, you're an adult, buddy. You can say no, right? Or you can take smaller sips, right? That is 1. Thing you you do have control of this situation. Yes, Yep, usually.
And like my last conference only had two UMPS but my my new conference has three UMPS for games. Whoa, I know such a difference. It it honestly, it makes a big difference. I mean, playoffs are always three, yeah. But like I'll usually go to like the home UMP and the home UMP like I usually never cross home plate, especially 'cause that's like when pitchers and catchers like that's when they're like doing their warm up throws or
whatever. So like I'll stand on one side of the the plate and like just motion to the UMP. And usually the I make the UMP like cross behind. Nice. Like I don't usually like to like walk behind even like if they're not, I don't know, I just don't like it. Nice. And then for the the two, like I'll go like along first base
and get that UMP. And then usually that UMP can like yell over to the other blue and just like see if they want it. So you don't have to like, run around the entire field during an inning. We had to Oh really? Oh yeah, 'cause like, yeah, the the not all the time with the UMPS meet the ones that are in the field. Usually we signal to them and then. Yeah, Nope. We had to. One would do the home plate and one would have to hit one, go all the way around, hit the
other one, then bring it back. Yeah. I don't know if that was just, I don't want to say hazing, but I don't know if it was just yeah, welcome. That's funny. Just keeping you, keeping you busy. Keeping you fit, you gotta be able to. You gotta go fast. OK, how about this one? With every fly ball, Always track the players fielding the ball. Do not track the ball in the air. That's a good idea. That's a really good idea.
Good idea actually. I do this when I when I lose track of the ball, I immediately look at the people because. Yeah, that's what I do. Because then everyone is, everyone else is tracking them all and I can see if it's coming for me. So like because I've like somewhat know how to track a ball in the air, or I could look up and at least know OK, like I'm safe. If it's one that's kind of like oh iffy, then I'll look to see if they're running towards me and I'm.
Like I know when they're running towards you, that's. Like I better get out of here. What I'm scared of sometimes is like if I'm under the easy up and like what if it like goes to the easy up? Yeah, that would be unfortunate. We had a kid who was in the cage behind a screen and someone hit a ball and it bounced to the top of the cage, hit the top of the cage and came down and hit the kid in the head. And I was like, really like, how how did you get in that situation? OK, best for last.
I save this these these superb tips from Aaron G just like as a generic like baseball overview just extravaganza. Yeah, so she says definitely get ready for some absolute nonsense superstitions and ridiculous antics in the dugout. If you don't want to be a part of any shenanigans, then set up outside the dugout if possible. I placed myself near an exit from the dugout and how and hover barely outside of the
dugout while a player's down. If they aren't up in about 5 seconds I will start making my way to the pitch to the player and if they are still down then I pick it up to into a jog. If it's someone who got hit by a pitch I will do the same but start walking out after 2 seconds. Oh nice. To add on to this, if someone gets hit with a pitch and it's not something that like I'm necessarily concerned about, if the coach walks out, I will walk out. Yeah, yeah.
Most the time that doesn't happen, but like I also like give that a like I have a little bit of. Space. Yeah, Aaron continues. Always make sure you have a Direct Line of sight to home plate as there are three people that could all be injured at once depending on the pitch or how a foul ball flies off the bat. Yeah, true. Always pay attention to the seal the steel to second base, third base 2, but doesn't happen as often as most will dive into the
base. So this is usually when the shoulder dislocations in my experience happen. Oh, Donnie. High ankle sprains happened mostly at first first base due to running through the bag. They hit the front of the bag with their foot and it just jolts their tails up enough to cause a sprain. Nice. Yeah. One time I had someone run to 1st and they pulled their hamstring and it was like right at an inning change.
And the I, I saw them make it to 1st and then like everyone kind of got out of their dugouts and like, there's a whole hubbub. And then someone's like, oh, Sandra, like they need you. And I like look over and the kids on the floor. And I was like, oh, like I stopped watching. Like after he made it to 1st and saw that like he didn't make it like it wasn't safe. Like he was out. So then I was like, oh, OK, we're going to like, yeah,
exactly. And I like, then there's people in front of him and I'm not seeing that he's on the floor and yeah, pulled his hamstring. Yeah, yeah. I I really don't like when I can't see what's happening at home plate. Yeah, that's scary 'cause there's a lot that. There's a lot and you miss like one second and you miss the entire thing A. Lot. Yeah, but you know what? I actually thought of my favorite memory now. Oh, tell me. Work in a baseball camp.
This is my first year certified. So you have worked baseball since you were certified? It was a baseball camp, so it was the last day. And you know, again, the school is known for baseball, right? So there's kids there, There's student athletes there that are going to be in the majors at some point. So all the kids would like have all like the camp counselors, the student athletes sign like their hat and stuff because again, coaches aren't running
these camps, student athletes. And one of the kids, no joke, comes up to me and asks me to sign his hat. I'm like, oh. That's so sweet. Yeah, it was really adorable. I was like, you got it, buddy. So this kid somewhere has my signature with ATC on it. He probably has no idea what that is. That's really funny. Yeah, that is so cute. Yeah, you got it buddy. I'll sign your hat. Made my day. OK, that's a good memory. Yeah, that's a good one to end on. Yeah. Do you have any more tips and
tricks Baseball? I don't know if I have anything for baseball. I mean, I feel like, yeah, we've kind of said everything, yeah. Happy 200. Happy 200. This is a good one for 200. Yeah, I agree. Happy 200. Well, if you guys have made it this far along the way or if you are new, we do several different types of episodes.
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