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At a Distance

A podcast about the bigger picture. Host Spencer Bailey calls on leading minds, from scientists and technologists to artists and climate activists, to zoom out and look at some of the planet’s most pressing issues from a whole-earth, long-view perspective.

Episodes

Rebecca Solnit on Slowness as a Superpower

Rebecca Solnit, the author of books including “A Paradise Built in Hell” (2009) and “Orwell’s Roses” (2021) and the co-editor of the new collection of essays “Not Too Late: Changing the Climate Story from Despair to Possibility,” discusses the long view as a “mind-blowing” way of looking at the world, why the majority of people tend to be altruistic and resourceful in a disaster, and why the climate crisis requires eschewing a scarcity mindset for one of abundance.

Dec 11, 202353 minEp. 166

Charlayne Hunter-Gault on History as a Compass for Navigating the Present

The civil rights activist, award-winning journalist, and former NPR and CNN foreign correspondent Charlayne Hunter-Gault talks about her book “My People: Five Decades of Writing About Black Lives”; why understanding history is like a form of armor in a world full of misinformation; and the transformational, life-altering notion of viewing herself as a “queen” from a young age.

Nov 20, 202330 minEp. 165

Sarah Lohman on Creating a More Affordable, Healthful, and Moral Food System

The culinary historian Sarah Lohman, author of the new book “Endangered Eating: America’s Vanishing Foods,” talks about the importance of engaging with local foodways, why “the idea that eating McDonald’s is universally bad is woefully unaware of class and racial conflicts,” and how Indigenous communities across the U.S. are fighting to protect their heritage.

Oct 23, 202325 minEp. 164

David W. Orr on the Inextricable Links Between Climate and Democracy

David W. Orr, editor of the new book “Democracy in a Hotter Time” and a professor at Arizona State University, discusses the climate crisis as an obviously bipartisan issue; why building “Democracy 4.0” must ultimately be a localized, grassroots mission; and why, in our “long emergency” that is the climate crisis, we must “stretch our hearts to reach out to other species and future generations.”

Sep 18, 202332 minEp. 163

Pedro Gadanho on How Architecture Must Adapt to Our Ecological Emergency

Architect, writer, and curator Pedro Gadanho, author of the book “Climax Change!” and a Loeb Fellow at Harvard University, discusses how architects must increasingly innovate through densification and adaptive reuse rather than building anew; existing buildings as “material banks”; and the importance of downgrading our consumption levels, particularly in the Western world.

Jul 10, 202330 minEp. 162

Chris Impey on the New Space Race and Exoplanet Habitation

Astronomer Chris Impey, author of the new book “Worlds Without End: Exoplanets, Habitability, and the Future of Humanity” and a professor at the University of Arizona, discusses the vast possibilities of extraterrestrial human habitation, why imagination is an important form of scientific speculation, and why humans’ initial move to space will likely mirror the lawlessness of the Wild West.

Jun 05, 202319 minEp. 161

Lesley Lokko on Imagining the Future Through an African Lens

Architect and novelist Lesley Lokko, the founder and director of the African Futures Institute and the curator of this year’s Venice Architecture Biennale, discusses how, for her, the rich context of Africa has always served as a “testing ground for ideas” about the future; why she has become disenchanted with the academic establishment over time; and how architects serve as translators between the imaginary and the real. Episode sponsored by MUD\WTR ....

Mar 13, 202327 minEp. 160

Dacher Keltner on Why We All Need Daily Doses of Awe

UC Berkeley psychology professor Dacher Keltner, author of the new book “Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life,” talks about human emotion as a tool for making sense of the world, the extraordinary acts of kindness that take place around us all the time, and moral beauty as a way of life. Episode sponsored by MUD\WTR .

Feb 27, 202330 minEp. 159

Marina Koren on Rethinking the “Overview Effect”

Marina Koren, a staff writer at The Atlantic who covers science and space exploration, speaks about why the “overview effect,” the cognitive shift that can occur when seeing the Earth from outer space, needs to be studied and understood in a more nuanced way; the ongoing Elon Musk–Jeff Bezos space-race saga; and the vast, galaxy-wide importance of NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope. Episode sponsored by MUD\WTR .

Feb 13, 202330 minEp. 158

Sarah Jaquette Ray on Navigating the Emotional Havoc of Climate Anxiety

Sarah Jaquette Ray, author of the new book “A Field Guide to Climate Anxiety: How to Keep Your Cool on a Warming Planet” and a professor of environmental studies at Cal Poly Humboldt, discusses the importance of leveraging negative emotions for political change, the ties between the climate crisis and our own inner suffering, and how thinking differently about the world can lead to more positive feedback cycles. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko ....

Dec 26, 202238 minEp. 157

Hans Joachim Schellnhuber on Applying the Intersectional Thinking of the Bauhaus to Today

Atmospheric physicist and climatologist Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, the founder of Bauhaus Earth, talks with us about reforesting the planet and “re-timbering” cities, the potential for the built environment to become a “hero” in climate restoration, and the vast number of solutions to be found by looking to nature and Indigenous cultures. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Dec 19, 202248 minEp. 156

Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò on the Inextricable Links Between Colonialism and the Climate Crisis

Philosopher Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò, author of the books “Reconsidering Reparations” and “Elite Capture: How the Powerful Took Over Identity Politics,” speaks with us about why future decision-making will be driven by the state of climate politics, considering the deep presence of the past within the current moment, and what a planetary “solidarity economy” could look like. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Dec 12, 202233 minEp. 155

Moshe Safdie on Architecture as a Means to Uplift the Spirit

Israeli-born, Boston-based architect and urban planner Moshe Safdie, author of the new book “If Walls Could Speak: My Life in Architecture,” discusses approaching architecture with humility and in service to society, the staying power of his Habitat 67 housing complex in Montreal, and his vision for creating the Yad Vashem memorial to the victims of the Holocaust in Jerusalem. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Dec 05, 202238 minEp. 154

Alec Nevala-Lee on the Enduring Legacy of R. Buckminster Fuller

Alec Nevala-Lee, author of the new biography “Inventor of the Future: The Visionary Life of Buckminster Fuller,” talks with us about what Fuller has in common (and doesn’t) with Elon Musk and Steve Jobs, the myth of the start-up founder, and why design solutions also need to take politics into account. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Nov 28, 202241 minEp. 153

Suzanne Lee on the Circular, Lower-Impact Potential of Biomaterials

Fashion designer Suzanne Lee, the founder of Biofabricate, speaks with us about a new era of materials that could lead to more circular and regenerative systems, misunderstandings around the term “biomaterials,” and leaning into biology as a means of pushing the parameters of fashion forward. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Nov 21, 202230 minEp. 152

Vasant Dhar on Why We Need Guardrails Around Internet Data

A.I. researcher, data scientist, and N.Y.U. professor Vasant Dhar, host of the Brave New World podcast, discusses the need for careful internet governance, the incredible potential for responsibly pulling data from today’s “really powerful” algorithms, and the necessity of human oversight over machine systems. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Nov 14, 202239 minEp. 151

Karenna Gore on Applying Ethics to the Climate Conversation

Karenna Gore, the director of the Center for Earth Ethics at Union Theological Seminary, talks with us about spirituality as an outlet for humility, why we’re in a “species-wide identity crisis,” and how the paths forward we choose now about the climate crisis are ultimately about human survival. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Nov 07, 202235 minEp. 150

Dr. Tara Stoinski on the Whole-Earth Impact of Gorilla Conservation

Dr. Tara Stoinski, the CEO and chief scientific officer of the Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund, speaks with us about working with MASS Design Group on her organization’s new Ellen DeGeneres Campus in Rwanda, how mountain gorillas have become a conservation “success story,” and why her work with gorillas can serve as model for conservation efforts elsewhere. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Oct 31, 202237 minEp. 149

John Mack on Why Reality Cannot Actually Be “Augmented”

Photographer and poet John Mack, founder of the nonprofit Life Calling Initiative, discusses our online and offline realities; why and how humanity is going through a “metaphysical migration”; and despite our current technological ease and efficiency, the deep human desire for non-virtual experiences. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Oct 24, 202243 minEp. 148

Elizabeth Adams on A.I. Ethics as a Guide to the Future

A.I. ethics and technology inclusion advisor, researcher, and scholar Elizabeth Adams talks with us about how organizations should be thinking about A.I. ethics guidelines, her qualitative approach to A.I. research, and establishing coalitions around public oversight of surveillance technology. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Oct 17, 202230 minEp. 147

David Chalmers on the Glorious Possibilities of Virtual Worlds

Philosopher David Chalmers, author of the book “Reality+: Virtual Worlds and the Problems of Philosophy” and co-director of the N.Y.U. Center for Mind, Brain, and Consciousness, speaks with us about his predictions of where A.I. is heading; why he doesn’t rule out a “Google level” of consciousness; and how, rather than a single version of utopia, multiple utopias could reveal themselves through a “dynamic process of search.” Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko ....

Oct 10, 202232 minEp. 146

Batja Mesquita on Finding Common Ground Through Emotional Understanding

Social psychologist Batja Mesquita, author of the new book “Between Us: How Cultures Create Emotions” and director of the Center for Social and Cultural Psychology in Leuven, Belgium, discusses the vast impacts that social conditions can have on human emotions, the importance of remaining humble in our perceptions of each other, and why social media tends to amplify a Western emotional perspective. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko.

Oct 03, 202232 minEp. 145

Joseph Awuah-Darko on Growing Ghana’s Cultural and Creative Renaissance

Joseph Awuah-Darko, the founder and director of Institute Museum of Ghana and the Noldor Artist Residency in Accra, talks with us about creating the country’s first independent arts residency and fellowship program for African artists; his ongoing research efforts targeting e-waste; and the importance of creating sustained longevity for, and critical discourse around, African contemporary art. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Sep 26, 202223 minEp. 144

Jane Poynter on Space Travel as a Pathway to Shifting Perspectives

Jane Poynter, co-founder and co-CEO of the space travel company Space Perspective, speaks with us about her two years inside the Biosphere 2 research facility in Arizona in the early nineties, the vast power and potential of commercial spaceflight, and why she thought humans would be on Mars by now. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Sep 19, 202233 minEp. 143

Kyle Smitley on Building a Craft-Forward Approach to Education

Kyle Smitley, the founder and executive director of the nonprofit charter schools Detroit Achievement Academy and Detroit Prep, talks with us about her entrepreneurial path to education; joy, comfort, and belonging as essential to school culture; and the value of listening to community feedback. Episode sponsored by Grand Seiko .

Sep 12, 202235 minEp. 142

Stephen Marche on Why the United States Should Be Concerned About a Civil War

Canadian novelist, essayist, and cultural commentator Stephen Marche, author of the new book The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future , discusses the bleak potential of a civil war–scale event occurring in the U.S. in the not-so-distant future, why national lack of trust in the Supreme Court portends fractious violence, and the hope that remains for the country to be able to reinvent itself.

Aug 15, 202240 minEp. 141

Jens Martin Skibsted on Rethinking “Design Thinking”

Danish designer and entrepreneur Jens Martin Skibsted, co-author of the new book “Expand: Stretching the Future by Design” and a partner of the firm Manyone, speaks with us about how to practice long-view thinking in a fast-paced world, science fiction as a design tool, and why “human-centered” approaches to design might not be such a good thing.

Jul 18, 202234 minEp. 140

Tony Fadell on How to Build Culture-Shifting Products

iPod inventor, iPhone co-inventor, and Nest founder Tony Fadell, principal of the investment and advisory firm Future Shape, and author of the new book “Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making,” talks with us about learning through failure, why developing product and story goes hand in hand, and the greatest misconceptions about Apple’s ability to innovate.

May 23, 202249 minEp. 139

John Markoff on the Whole Earth Impact of Stewart Brand

Veteran technology journalist John Markoff, author of the new biography “Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand,” discusses the forces that have helped Brand forecast the future, the great value in Brand’s “eco-pragmatist” perspective, and why the next tech innovation is likely to come out of left field.

Apr 18, 202237 minEp. 138

Jeff Rosenthal on the Art of Building a Community

Jeff Rosenthal, co-founder of the global platform Summit, which organizes events and experiences for entrepreneurs, academics, athletes, artists, and others, speaks with us about the value of mystery in storytelling, generosity as a tool for cultivating community, and why anything that’s truly worth building can’t be done alone.

Apr 04, 202237 minEp. 137